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incubry
08-06-2011, 04:12 AM
Hate to be the bearer of BAD news!

Really surprised this isn't already on here!

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/05/arian-foster-pulls-hamstring-in-his-first-2011-practice/

Texans tailback Arian Foster, the NFL’s leading rusher in 2010, has seen his quest for a repeat derailed temporarily via a pulled hamstring.

Per Dale Robertson of the Houston Chronicle, Foster suffered the injury on a 40-yard touchdown run during the first play of an 11-on-11 scrimmage.

It was Foster’s first practice since signing a one-year exclusive rights tender offer on Sunday.

Foster showed up later in the day with the leg heavily wrapped.

:toropalm:

dream_team
08-06-2011, 04:48 AM
At least better now than later.

beerlover
08-06-2011, 05:03 AM
How does this stuff keep slipping by McClain?

:toropalm:

GlassHalfFull
08-06-2011, 06:20 AM
How does this stuff keep slipping by McLame?

:toropalm:

fixed it for you, which is pretty much the answer to your question.

I pretty much refuse to read whatever drivel he produces. It would be nice if the Chron would get an actual real sportswriter on staff.

ObsiWan
08-06-2011, 06:28 AM
fixed it for you, which is pretty much the answer to your question.

I pretty much refuse to read whatever drivel he produces. It would be nice if the Chron would get an actual real sportswriter on staff.

They do. Dale Roberson

HoustonFrog
08-06-2011, 08:30 AM
Hopefully this isn't lingering. Hamstrings can be a long recovery if you don't let it heal. They should just sit him as long as possible.

As far as McClain, go read one of his chats. It is 1 hour of nothing. He never has info, snaps at questions and repeats the same answer over and over. Before FA he spent a long time answering questions and the only thing he said was "the Texans don't have cap money so they can't sign big names." When someone asked who he thought they might go after his response was "how am I supposed to know" basically. I can't stand the guy...went from being a good football guy to a toad who is grouchy and who knows nothing.

IDEXAN
08-06-2011, 08:32 AM
So this is what happens when Foster is off being a TV star instead of keeping himself fit and in shape and ready for TC to begin ?

CloakNNNdagger
08-06-2011, 08:39 AM
Another example of under reporting injuries. Initially, "tight" (cramped) hamstring and removed from practice "as a precaution"..........to "pulled" (which is a mild tear already) hamstring. Don't be surprised if the next report relates "torn" (significant tear) hamstring.:toropalm:

nytexan
08-06-2011, 09:10 AM
How does this stuff keep slipping by McClain?

:toropalm:

He's been in Canton Ohio for the Hall of Fame ceremonies, it wouldn't be his job to report what went on in camp Friday. If you're going to bash someone at least let it be for something he'd be responsible for.

GP
08-06-2011, 09:38 AM
fixed it for you, which is pretty much the answer to your question.

I pretty much refuse to read whatever drivel he produces. It would be nice if the Chron would get an actual real sportswriter on staff.

They do. Her name is Steph Stradley, except she's not paid and she holds down a real job all week long.

Her stuff is electric.

CloakNNNdagger
08-06-2011, 09:51 AM
they do. Her name is steph stradley, except she's not paid and she holds down a real job all week long.

Her stuff is electric.

this^^^^^^

ChampionTexan
08-06-2011, 09:53 AM
They do. Her name is Steph Stradley, except she's not paid and she holds down a real job all week long.

Her stuff is electric.

Not to get nit-picky, because I agree with your point, while TC may be better than anyone actually "On staff", it doesn't get the Chronicle off the hook. Case in point - one of Steph's most recent tweets:

StephStradley Stephanie Stradley
Alas, I likely am done w/ #Texans at camp reports thru MNF game. Fun family obligations. At least I got you thru when public camps happen :)

C'mon Chron - show some embarrassment that you're two best and most relevant Texans writers are unpaid (I think) bloggers and do right by your readers.

Editorial comment: Used to absolutely love John McClain, and still can't really find it in me to dislike him even now - just don't see how his current role does much to increase my knowledge of the Texans, or the enjoyment of being a NFL fan. On the otherhand, LZ and TC rock.

Hardcore Texan
08-06-2011, 09:54 AM
Will he be ready by week 1? He is kinda sorta our gameplan.

nytexan
08-06-2011, 10:21 AM
Not to get nit-picky, because I agree with your point, while TC may be better than anyone actually "On staff", it doesn't get the Chronicle off the hook. Case in point - one of Steph's most recent tweets:



C'mon Chron - show some embarrassment that you're two best and most relevant Texans writers are unpaid (I think) bloggers and do right by your readers.

Editorial comment: Used to absolutely love John McClain, and still can't really find it in me to dislike him even now - just don't see how his current role does much to increase my knowledge of the Texans, or the enjoyment of being a NFL fan. On the otherhand, LZ and TC rock.

I can't believe I'm going to be a McLain apologist but although Stephanie does have the best blog besides possible Feighen on the Chronicle, LZ is the most over rated blogger in the history of blogs. He comes up with an occasional very good blog but more often than not its drivel. Although he and Granato have the most creative radio sports show in Houston radio.

When Melanie Hauser was let go as the Texans beat writer they took McLain from and NFL writer which he was very good at to the Texans beat writer which made him someone who reports Texans news and not the opinion/editorial writer he was and is best at. To use an example of something he called out months ago was that the Texans wouldn't win the Nmandi sweepstakes and would be better off going after Joseph and a safety. He got blasted constantly for that opinion but it turned out he was dead on the money. Just because the butt heads that populate his blogs seem clueless or ask the same question 10,000 times a chat doesn't mean he's terrible.

Carr Bombed
08-06-2011, 10:44 AM
So this is what happens when Foster is off being a TV star instead of keeping himself fit and in shape and ready for TC to begin ?

:rolleyes:

And it only took 7 posts to get the the obligatory "he must of been slacking off" post. Arian Foster wasn't off being a "TV star" and he has been training this summer. He's been working with his brother all offseason, the same thing he did last offseason. Why the heck do people have to automatically slam a player just because he suffered a injury? Pulled hammies happen all the time...and they even happen to well trained athletes.

LMAO, you honestly think a player who played with a torn knee ligament out of fear of losing his job isn't going to work and train in the offseason? Really?

The Pencil Neck
08-06-2011, 11:06 AM
Will he be ready by week 1? He is kinda sorta our gameplan.

Honestly... as good as Foster is, Tate could be better. At the very worst, I don't think Tate is a step down.

Doppelganger
08-06-2011, 11:07 AM
Any news on Foster? Will rest be enough to get him healthy for week 1?

Doppelganger
08-06-2011, 11:09 AM
Honestly... as good as Foster is, Tate could be better. At the very worst, I don't think Tate is a step down.

That's the concern Foster has. If he misses too much time, Tate gets the carries and may take Foster's job. In a perfect world, I would like to see Foster get 15 carries a game, Ward get about 10, and Tate get 7. If we can run 32 times a game, I think we win.

Wolf
08-06-2011, 11:12 AM
why should we pay anyone, when we can get bettter writers/bloggers with better info for free?

signed,
the chomical

*I am glad I don't pay for their stupid newspaper*
(or any )

ChampionTexan
08-06-2011, 11:22 AM
I can't believe I'm going to be a McLain apologist but although Stephanie does have the best blog besides possible Feighen on the Chronicle, LZ is the most over rated blogger in the history of blogs. He comes up with an occasional very good blog but more often than not its drivel. Although he and Granato have the most creative radio sports show in Houston radio.

When Melanie Hauser was let go as the Texans beat writer they took McLain from and NFL writer which he was very good at to the Texans beat writer which made him someone who reports Texans news and not the opinion/editorial writer he was and is best at. To use an example of something he called out months ago was that the Texans wouldn't win the Nmandi sweepstakes and would be better off going after Joseph and a safety. He got blasted constantly for that opinion but it turned out he was dead on the money. Just because the butt heads that populate his blogs seem clueless or ask the same question 10,000 times a chat doesn't mean he's terrible.

See, you think the fact we didn't end up with Nnamdi proved him right, and I very much disagree with that position. I also don't remember a single instance (prior to it being made clear that the Texans believed they could clear significant cap room if and when needed) where McClain predicted they would (or should) go after Joseph. Got any sources on that (prior to the time it became obvious to everyone)?

He got blasted for the comment because his main (and virtually only) rationale for why the Texans wouldn't get Nnamdi was because they would never be able to fit him under the cap. He was also on record as late as mid-July as saying the Texans couldn't afford any of the top FA's (Which Joseph was universally considered to be).

Can the Texans make cap space for a big FA? - John McClain went on the radio this morning and said that there’s no way the Texans can sign Nnamdi Asomugha or a top free agent because of the team’s cap situation. First of all, consider the source. McClain is certainly well-connected and often has the inside scoop… but cap talk is not his area of expertise. It’s not mine either, but I’m good at stuff like… thinking and reasoning. We don’t yet know what the new salary cap will be. Some have said $120 million. Some have said $127 million. Some have said that the salary floor is actually going to be $120 million. Hopefully by the end of the week some more light will be shed on the issue.

LINK (http://www.mvptexas.com/nfl/1677-sports-morning-headlines-thursday-72111.html)

And a tweet from McClain:

McClain_on_NFL John McClain
I'll be shocked if the Texans sign Asomugha. They're up against the cap and have a lot of needs. Won't put all their eggs in his basket.

As we know, most sources believe that the Texans actually offered more than the Eagles, so cap room (or lack thereof) was clearly not a problem they felt was insurmountable. Additionally, the fact that they did so indicated they either were putting all of their eggs in one basket, or they felt they could still clear up enough room to add a safety. We'll never know which.

Ckw
08-06-2011, 11:22 AM
Alright so I'm an id!ot when it comes to the seriousness of injuries. So how bad is this situation?

The Pencil Neck
08-06-2011, 11:24 AM
Alright so I'm an id!ot when it comes to the seriousness of injuries. So how bad is this situation?

That's the problem. We don't know. With the way Texans report injuries, this could be career ending or it could be something where he's fine and back on the field tomorrow.

DX-TEX
08-06-2011, 11:27 AM
Alright so I'm an id!ot when it comes to the seriousness of injuries. So how bad is this situation?

If iots a pulled hamstring it could be nothing but it can hang around and be nagging,

Carr Bombed
08-06-2011, 11:30 AM
Alright so I'm an id!ot when it comes to the seriousness of injuries. So how bad is this situation?

Hamstring injuries are extremely tricky. If allowed enough time to heal Foster could come back 100% and have no issues at all. If he tries to come back too soon it could develop into a nagging injury that he struggles with all season. This is not shocking news considering the heat we've struggled with this past week.

I would pretty much sit Arian Foster and save him for the regular season. Maybe give him a few touches in the last preseason game.

ObsiWan
08-06-2011, 11:37 AM
That's the problem. We don't know. With the way Texans report injuries, this could be career ending or it could be something where he's fine and back on the field tomorrow.

So given that fact plus the quality of our backups I'm not ready to climb out onto the ledge just yet.

let's see how it all unfolds

EllisUnit
08-06-2011, 11:51 AM
heres a more recent article on the hammy

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/fb/texansfront/7684895.html

GhostRaider2007
08-06-2011, 12:05 PM
Here is a partial transcript (the parts pertaining to this subject) of the post practice media session from this morning:

Link:
http://texans.studiotigaapps.net/transcripts/august-6,-2011-am-practice.aspx


Head Coach Gary Kubiak:

(on the status of WR Andre Johnson and RB Arian Foster) "I think Andre (Johnson) could practice tomorrow. We'll see. I think Arian's (Foster) definitely going to miss a few days. I think he'll be day-to-day, but he won't be back before we come back from our break after tomorrow."

RB Arian Foster:

(on if he is in a precautionary mode with his hamstring injury) "I think anytime you have a hamstring injury, you have to rest it. That's the only thing that can heal it. So that's what we're doing right now."

(on if he is worried about his hamstring injury) "No."

(on if he had a little too much energy or pent-up adrenaline when he injured his hamstring) "Probably. I probably was going a little bit too hard, feeling good being back on the first day, but that's part of life, so you have to roll with it."

(on his initial reaction when he realized he tweaked his hamstring) "I tweaked my hamstring."

(on head coach Gary Kubiak's comment that he has problems with his hamstring in the past) "Well, I popped my hamstring in the Senior Bowl and then I had tweaked in training camp my rookie year."

(on how long it took him to feel good the last time he tweaked his hamstring) "About a week."

(on if his last hamstring injury was on the same leg) "I can't even remember, actually. I think it might have been the other one."

(on if a hamstring injury is frightening for a running back) "No. Knee injuries are frightening. Hamstrings are part of the business."

(on what he can do to work his way back to health with his injury) "Rest. Lightly stretch it with a little bit of ice."

(on what he can gain from watching practice instead of participating) "You just get to sharpen your skills mentally. You get to see the plays before they're ran, so you see them. You just go over your assignment and get more detailed mentally."

(on if there is a part of him that wants to prove that his performance last year wasn't a fluke) "No. I'm not trying to prove anybody wrong. I'm trying to play the game of football. I can't go around trying to prove everybody right, or wrong."

(on if the media can expect to see 1,400- and 1,500-yard performances from him every year) "You can expect whatever you want. I'm just going to go play the game."

(on if he just goes out with the mindset to run to daylight) "Yeah. You can't worry about what people think. People are negative. People are dream-killers. You can't worry about what they think."

(on what he's seen from FB Lawrence Vickers since he joined the team) "Well, he's still learning the system and things like that but I'm more than confident he'll come along and be a valuable option for us."

(on his level of concern about his hamstring injury) "It's just a hamstring. It's a muscle, a soft-tissue injury that will heal, eventually."

(on how frustrating it is to pull his hamstring) "You want to be out here practicing with you teammates. It gets a little frustrating."

rush2112mn
08-06-2011, 12:08 PM
Hopefully this time next week Foster will be able to practice.....I would not be surprised if the Texans hold him out of Jets game......:texflag::logo::texan:

DX-TEX
08-06-2011, 12:21 PM
(on his initial reaction when he realized he tweaked his hamstring) "I tweaked my hamstring."



AM I the only one who snickered as this comment?

drs23
08-06-2011, 12:23 PM
AM I the only one who snickered as this comment?

I don't think so. :winky:

nytexan
08-06-2011, 01:37 PM
See, you think the fact we didn't end up with Nnamdi proved him right, and I very much disagree with that position. I also don't remember a single instance (prior to it being made clear that the Texans believed they could clear significant cap room if and when needed) where McClain predicted they would (or should) go after Joseph. Got any sources on that (prior to the time it became obvious to everyone)?


Ike Taylor is the top corner after Nnamdi unless FA returns to four years, then Jonathan Joseph would be their target. May 2011 chat.
I'm not trying to change your position on the guy, just trying to be fair and at my age I don't get the McLame and other derogatory remarks about people you may not care for or disagree with. You can (not necessarily you) have an opinion that is different from others without the name calling. I'm out.

CloakNNNdagger
08-06-2011, 01:39 PM
Did anyone see Foster, especially today? If so, was he limping at all?

nero THE zero
08-06-2011, 01:45 PM
AM I the only one who snickered as this comment?

Nope.

This one, too:
(on if he is worried about his hamstring injury) "No."

Gotta love that about him.

Brandon420tx
08-06-2011, 01:54 PM
This didn't "slip by" us, it was in the Practice Update thread. Its not a big deal and he'll be able to play this season, chillax

Brisco_County
08-06-2011, 02:02 PM
Did anyone see Foster, especially today? If so, was he limping at all?

I can't find anything that says that, but he stayed on the field after the injury.

Unfortunately, Foster finished clutching his left hamstring, the grimace on his face speaking volumes. It would be his last carry of the day.

What happened? Foster declined to say, rebuffing interview requests after each session. In the afternoon, he did nothing but stand in as the faux quarterback during a running-back drill and spectate. In parting, he promised to discuss the injury, which could be nothing or could be a hindrance for weeks, today, when the Texans will be in full pads for an open-to-the public practice that starts at 8 a.m.,

Link (http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/fb/texansfront/7684895.html#ixzz1UHEKEATk)

ChampionTexan
08-06-2011, 02:08 PM
Ike Taylor is the top corner after Nnamdi unless FA returns to four years, then Jonathan Joseph would be their target. May 2011 chat.
I'm not trying to change your position on the guy, just trying to be fair and at my age I don't get the McLame and other derogatory remarks about people you may not care for or disagree with. You can (not necessarily you) have an opinion that is different from others without the name calling. I'm out.

I don't get the vitriol, hatred and name calling some folks seem to resort to either - especially since I would guess the majority are getting everything he writes, blogs, tweets and says on the radio absolutely free of charge. It's also curious that this response is generated not by the expression of a divisive or controversial opinion - ala Justice or even Solomon, rather by what could be considered a homeristic POV. But I guess that's just the way some folks handle a relatively anonymous forum.

I do understand the stance of those who simply feel that for whatever reason, he no longer puts forth a meaningful and compelling product (and for the record, I still subscribe to the Chronicle, and have no plans to change that).

TimeKiller
08-06-2011, 02:15 PM
Rest, rest, rest. Don't see much of a need in over working he or AJ this preseason. Schaub either, See what we have in the skill position depths. Leinart, Yates, Dickerson, Maehl, Jones, Toliver, Tate, Ward, Slaton. Really see what these guys are gonna bring this season.

Ckw
08-06-2011, 02:52 PM
Rest, rest, rest. Don't see much of a need in over working he or AJ this preseason. Schaub either, See what we have in the skill position depths. Leinart, Yates, Dickerson, Maehl, Jones, Toliver, Tate, Ward, Slaton. Really see what these guys are gonna bring this season.

This.

dalemurphy
08-06-2011, 03:04 PM
I don't get the vitriol, hatred and name calling some folks seem to resort to either - especially since I would guess the majority are getting everything he writes, blogs, tweets and says on the radio absolutely free of charge. It's also curious that this response is generated not by the expression of a divisive or controversial opinion - ala Justice or even Solomon, rather by what could be considered a homeristic POV. But I guess that's just the way some folks handle a relatively anonymous forum.

I do understand the stance of those who simply feel that for whatever reason, he no longer puts forth a meaningful and compelling product (and for the record, I still subscribe to the Chronicle, and have no plans to change that).


My frustration is with the poor coverage of the Texans. McClain, as the Texans/NFL beat writer for the Texans, is the prime example of that. His efforts are lazy, uninformative, and poorly written. I don't hate him for it but I certainly don't respect the poor product he puts out nor his uninspired work ethic.

ObsiWan
08-06-2011, 03:49 PM
Did anyone see Foster, especially today? If so, was he limping at all?

If limping vs. not limping, what would that tell you? I sense you're seeking to determine whether the muscle is actually torn or just strained...
:thinking:

Kimmy
08-06-2011, 03:53 PM
Did anyone see Foster, especially today? If so, was he limping at all?

The Texans should hire you!!

Lucky
08-06-2011, 04:04 PM
So this is what happens when Foster is off being a TV star instead of keeping himself fit and in shape and ready for TC to begin ?
Stirring the pot, huh? :stirpot:
Don't be surprised if the next report relates "torn" (significant tear) hamstring.:toropalm:
Can you really tear your hamstring from just sprinting? I've had all of the above (cramp, pull, and tear). But it took all of my weight bearing on my hamstring (in a skiing accident) to actually produce a tear. It seems as if they would know if the hamstring is torn by the hideous bruise it leaves behind.

Tailgate
08-06-2011, 04:39 PM
And a tweet from McClain:

Quote:
McClain_on_NFL John McClain
I'll be shocked if the Texans sign Asomugha. They're up against the cap and have a lot of needs. Won't put all their eggs in his basket.

As we know, most sources believe that the Texans actually offered more than the Eagles, so cap room (or lack thereof) was clearly not a problem they felt was insurmountable. Additionally, the fact that they did so indicated they either were putting all of their eggs in one basket, or they felt they could still clear up enough room to add a safety. We'll never know which.


I am not sure this one helps your argument. He says we have a lot of needs, and dont want to put all of our eggs in one basket,etc. So if we get Aso, do we then get Manning? No, we cover more needs this way. Even still, we had multiple players that had to sit out early to restructure contracts just to get back under the cap. I think only 7 or 8 teams had players sitting out by the time camp rolled around. Seems this tweet was right on.

Back to Foster... the dude better take all the time he needs to get this leg right.

CloakNNNdagger
08-06-2011, 06:21 PM
If limping vs. not limping, what would that tell you? I sense you're seeking to determine whether the muscle is actually torn or just strained...
:thinking:

A minor hamstring strain is a Class I strain. It reflects isolated microscopic muscular fiber tears, usually involving a fingertip area, and can usually be treated conservatively over about 4 days or so. A Class II strain is a more significant gross tear involving a significant number of muscle fibers of the muscle over a larger area. This injury should be rested for at least 2-3 weeks. A Class III strain reflects a complete rupture of the muscle. With a Class II strain you may or may not have bruising. If he is limping, he is likely to have suffered a Class II strain. Significant muscle spasm and weakness will accompany this injury. As far as Grade III, there should be no question of the diagnosis after physical exam.........and no confusion with Class I or II strain.


Stirring the pot, huh? :stirpot:

Can you really tear your hamstring from just sprinting? I've had all of the above (cramp, pull, and tear). But it took all of my weight bearing on my hamstring (in a skiing accident) to actually produce a tear. It seems as if they would know if the hamstring is torn by the hideous bruise it leaves behind.

That is one of the classic activities that can lead to a hamstring tear. Your muscle is trying to contract while another force (the ground, another player, etc.) is forcing the muscle in the opposite direction. This leads to severe opposing tension on the muscle, and depending on the force, it can result in tearing of various degree.

It can also occur when the quads are too much stronger than the hamstrings (the hammy should be no less than 60% the strength of the quad). Not warming up and having the hamstring unstretched commonly will put the hamstring at risk. Dehydration can also put the hamstring significantly at risk in that this condition leads to cramping which is contraction (shortening) of the muscle. Anything that shortens this muscle will encourage the stronger opposing muscle group (in this case the quad) to unnaturally force a re-stretch, and thus a tear. There are several other factors that can come into play, but you get the idea.

CloakNNNdagger
08-07-2011, 01:06 PM
First Foster, now Tate unable to practice due to a "tight" hamstring.

Ben Tate not ready to seize his opportunity (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/07/ben-tate-not-ready-to-seize-his-opportunity/)


Last year, Texans running back Arian Foster played with a knee injury because he feared losing his job if he missed time. This year, with Foster suffering a hamstring injury on his first carry of 11-on-11 drills and 2010 second-rounder Ben Tate back after missing all of last season with a broken ankle, the undrafted Foster surely was concerned that the player who entered with higher expectations will have a shot at changing the name on the back of Arian’s jersey to “Pipp.”

But Tate isn’t quite ready to try to take over. Coach Gary Kubiak told reporters on Sunday that Tate wasn’t able to practice, due to a hamstring problem of his own.

“He came out, warmed up and said his hamstring was tight, so we moved on,” Kubiak said, via quotes distributed by the team. “Derrick [Ward] was back. That group right there has been impressive the last couple days in their work habits and getting the reps that they’re getting. Hopefully he’s back later on.”

Tate entered camp at fourth on the depth chart, behind Foster, Steve Slaton, and Derrick Ward. With Foster out and Slaton possibly on the trade block, Tate needs to stay on the field in order to ultimately stay on the roster.

“Last year at this time, we had no idea who . . . our back was,” Kubiak recently said, per the Houston Chronicle. “Right now, we think we’ve got too many. Let’s just let them all play and see what happens.”

In the end, anything can happen. Indeed, who would have guessed a year ago that a guy who seemed destined for the waiver wire and practice squad would end up leading the entire league in rushing?

The Pencil Neck
08-07-2011, 01:07 PM
First Foster, now Tate unable to practice due to a "tight" hamstring.

I think it's contagious.

My hamstring is feeling a little bit tight right now, too.

ObsiWan
08-07-2011, 01:40 PM
I think it's contagious.

My hamstring is feeling a little bit tight right now, too.
lol:

Playoffs
08-07-2011, 07:56 PM
Uh, damn .... there went my hammy.

I was going for the chips.

(Class II, no limp)

El Tejano
08-07-2011, 08:09 PM
Why do injuries always happen to this team? WHY??? I mean couldn't Manning, Chrish Johnson get hurt too.

drs23
08-07-2011, 09:18 PM
Why do injuries always happen to this team? WHY??? I mean couldn't Manning, Chrish Johnson get hurt too.

Well in the case of the two mentioned, they'd have to be on the field first. Forehead is out with a neck and Johnson is butthurt over his contract.

beerlover
08-08-2011, 12:09 AM
He's been in Canton Ohio for the Hall of Fame ceremonies, it wouldn't be his job to report what went on in camp Friday. If you're going to bash someone at least let it be for something he'd be responsible for.

I've meant to get back to you about your response, not making excuses. I apologize if it offended you. I've been following McClain even up to this day of infamy, chats, facebook, practice recaps, radio on 610 Friday around 4:30pm you name it, & no mention of any issues in training camp little lone Arian Foster who had to wait until Thursday to start practicing with the team. Now mind you, I have to work for living as well. Been up almost 24-7 actually found the news wire myself (see early post) only to come back to this message board & find someone else beat me too it (incubry).

It was an emotional reaction & a tired one to find out the national football leagues leading rusher who happens to be a Houston Texans had pulled his hamstring earlier that day (Friday) yet no mention by any of the outlets until I get home after 4:00 in the AM. After all the big whup to do over Andre dislocating a finger, no mention from the beat writer of the Texans? Unfair maybe? He's got bigger fish to fry, maybe? He's out of town @ the Hall of Fame festivities, hey that's John McClain. But sometimes us hardcore Texan fans who expect to know every little detail after months of a lockout just want to know WHAT OUR HOUSTON TEXANS ARE DOING SCREW THE REST OF THE NFL, I know narrow minded, shallow all those things so I do apologize, really. Maybe its just time to move on & bring in someone more committed to covering the team we love, someone younger, smarter, hell prettier (Steph) someone who isn't drawn away in times of need, see I don't beleive I'm alone there are a lot of selfish Texan fans out there they just are too afraid to admit it. :specnatz:

Grams
08-08-2011, 09:45 AM
I am not afraid to admit it - that is why I check these boards often as this is the best place for news about the Texans

Hervoyel
08-08-2011, 01:41 PM
Well in the case of the two mentioned, they'd have to be on the field first. Forehead is out with a neck and Johnson is butthurt over his contract.

Does anyone know if he's limping? That could be a Class II butthurt if he is. Maybe even a Class III.

edo783
08-08-2011, 08:18 PM
Based on the type of weather we are having, I suspect that a lack of hydration is more the issue for the hammys since these guys seem to do a pretty fair amount of streaching and warming up. Guys probably not wanting to toss their cookies if they over drink. IMO, in these temps, it should be pretty hard to keep enough water in much less too much.

XI CMURDER IX
08-08-2011, 08:28 PM
Does anyone know the difference between a Class I and Class II headache? All these injuries are making my head spin!

CloakNNNdagger
08-08-2011, 10:47 PM
Feature article. Interesting wording for his status.:kitten:

Texans' Arian Foster outrunning his doubters
By Jon Saraceno, USA TODAY

HOUSTON — Arian Foster— poet, philosopher and bolt-from-the-blue Pro Bowl player in 2010 — sounds unfazed regarding the pressure of producing a splashy encore.

"People kill me," says the 24-year-old Houston Texans running back and defending NFL rushing king while sharing a golf cart after practice. "I am trying to be the best me I can be. The whole 'one-year wonder' thing to me is ridiculous. I can see if you have (one) good game and never show again. But 16 games of consistency? That's not easy to do.

"(But) there are always going to be skeptics, man. It's crazy. A year ago, no one was talking about me."

Almost no one. Maurice Jones-Drew was prescient. Before last season, the Jacksonville Jaguars running back predicted Foster would be a force to be reckoned with after he played sparingly in 2009 as an undrafted free agent from Tennessee, where he majored in philosophy and wrote poetry.

Foster's bust-to-boom transformation featured 2,220 rushing-receiving yards, including 1,616 rushing yards — most ever by an undrafted player. He also added 66 receptions. Foster became the third player in league history to amass at least 1,600 yards rushing and 600 yards receiving in the same season, including 231 on the ground in the season opener against the Indianapolis Colts.

The 6-1, 230-pounder, who thrived in the Texans' one-cut, zone-blocking scheme, concealed a torn meniscus in his knee during his incredible season. He got hurt again Friday, tweaking a hamstring. He is out indefinitely.

The doubters, Foster said, always will lurk.

"(My critics) were saying, 'You can't make the team.' As soon as I made the team, it was, 'You can't be a (good) running back.' Soon as I was good, it was, 'You can only do it for one year.' If I have (another) good season this year, I guarantee you it will be, 'It is the third year in a row that (proves greatness).'

"I call (those critics) 'dream killers.' When I was 7, I said I wanted to play (pro) football, and that is what I am doing. People somehow find it important to try to diminish what you are doing. I don't understand it."

Said Texans tackle Eric Winston, "I know this: You don't luck into 1,616 (yards)."

Or 18 touchdowns. After Foster crashes into the end zone, he performs his trademark Hindu "I see the God in you" greeting, a bow with hands held in prayer-like fashion.

"I am not vindictive by nature," Foster said. "(After last season) I heard a lot of 'I know you could' and 'I was wrong about you' (comments). I treat everybody the same: I love everybody. … That is all we have in this world is attitude. Everything else is a facade."

The Texans love the former San Diego prep star, too — particularly for his $525,000 salary in '11. As an exclusive-rights free agent, he signed a one-year deal for the third-year minimum, which included a $45,000 raise mandated by the collective bargaining agreement. Married and a father (2-year-old daughter Zeniah Egypt), Foster accepts, for now, that he is underpaid.

"(But) at the end of the day, I go home and I don't have to worry about the lights being cut off," he said. "Those were problems I had to worry about as a kid."

As far as matching the standard he achieved a year ago, that might be more problematical with the loss of Pro Bowl fullback Vonta Leach, now a Baltimore Raven.

"I think you (news media) guys set standards; I just play the game the way it's supposed to be played," Foster said. "You cannot get caught up in statistics.

"I want to be great — put it like that. Who doesn't want to be great? We play this game to have our names remembered."

The Pencil Neck
08-09-2011, 12:33 AM
How's Tate doing?

Esoom
08-09-2011, 01:07 AM
Per Dale Robertson of the Houston Chronicle, Foster suffered the injury on a 40-yard touchdown run during the first play of an 11-on-11 scrimmage.


Classic Texans :wadepalm:

TimeKiller
08-09-2011, 06:37 PM
Did tate have an injury history in college? Is this fluke kind of stuff?

drs23
08-09-2011, 06:49 PM
Did tate have an injury history in college? Is this fluke kind of stuff?

Also, did Tate attend the Rice workouts with the rest of the guys?

nytexan
08-09-2011, 07:47 PM
I've meant to get back to you about your response, not making excuses. I apologize if it offended you.

Actually no problemo guy. I've blasted McLain in his blog for allowing the buttheads to overwhelm any info that was on it, cowboy, keal in green and all those who encouraged that crap by fighting with them and in an email. So I'm far from his greatest supporter but I think we've seen the beginning of the end of printed newspapers and for example purposes, most of their stories are like FM radio where the disc jockeys are told what to play instead of letting them freelance so to speak. It appears that way with the sports pages also to me, where they're told what to write about instead of given the ability to find their own story. Its not just the Chronicle but other newspapers as well. There are very very few great newspapers anymore.

I think finding a good blogger and these type of sites on the internet are the wave of the now and future. Your going to have to find the story as opposed to seeing it in the local paper like I was raised to do. That's why these type of sites are so awesome because whatever flavor you prefer in hobbies you can find people of similar tastes who find and post info all the time. I likewise find myself poking in here several times a day to find a possible update to whats going on for the Texans and NFL.

Twitter has also changed the world because news gets spread almost instantaneously as opposed to waiting for it in the morning or evening paper and on the local news at 10. If an agent has news he wants out on a player, he'll pass it on to some reporter who'll blast it out on Twitter before anyone else has a chance to report it. He gets the credit as an investigative reporter used to when in probable reality he didn't do any legwork at all.

CloakNNNdagger
08-09-2011, 08:30 PM
Did tate have an injury history in college? Is this fluke kind of stuff?


His injury history in college is something that hasn't been very publicized. After reading this, you can make your own conclusions. Pay special attention to the description of his Freshman year and see if you don't encounter a "familiar" scenario.

In 2004, Foster enrolled at Tennessee, spending the season performing on the scout team. He played behind Gerald Riggs Jr. during the first part of the 2005 season, but when Riggs was injured, Foster stepped into the lineup, running for more than 100 yards in each of his five starts. His 879 yards on the ground rank fifth on the school single-season record list for freshmen, carrying 183 times and scoring five times on the ground.

The Freshman All-American second-team pick also caught 14 passes for 148 yards (10.6 avg), returned two kickoffs for 37 yards and generated 1,064 all-purpose yards that year. More that 25 percent of his carries produced first downs (46 of 183), as he converted 14 of 24 third-down snaps and added five more first downs receiving. What made these figures even more impressive was that Foster played with a torn meniscus in his left knee and a shoulder injury that required surgery after the season.

The 2006 season saw Foster limited to four starts in 11 games. He was hampered by a nagging ankle injury vs. Air Force that he tried to play with the following week vs. Florida before the coaches shut him down for two games. He ranked third on the team with 322 yards and five touchdowns on 91 attempts (3.5 avg). He grabbed 11 passes for 88 yards (8.0 avg) and returned two kickoffs for 20 yards.

Foster garnered All-Southeastern Conference second-team honors in 2007. He played with a left knee injury that required surgery after the season, but still piled up 1,193 yards on 245 chances with 12 touchdowns. His 1,650 all-purpose yards rank second on the school single-season record list, as he tallied 340 yards with a pair of scores on 39 catches (8.7 avg) and 117 yards on three kickoff returns.

Limited in 2008 spring camp while recovering from his knee surgery, Foster sported a new look in 2008, changing to jersey No. 30 from the No. 27 he wore upon arriving at Tennessee. He decided to change his jersey as a way of honoring injured teammate David Holbert, the team's senior fullback who missed his second straight season in 2008 because of separate knee injuries.

What was supposed to be Tennessee's challenge for the national title turned into a long, trying season for Foster and teammates. The tailback played in 11 games, missing the Wyoming contest with a deep thigh bruise. He was plagued by fumbles and inconsistent blocking up front, scoring just once on 131 carries for 570 yards (4.4 avg). He also saw his reception total reduced from 39 in 2007 to 19 in 2008, gaining 166 yards (8.7 avg).
link (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2009/profiles/arian-foster?id=79555)

CloakNNNdagger
08-09-2011, 08:37 PM
Also, did Tate attend the Rice workouts with the rest of the guys?..

No.

EllisUnit
08-09-2011, 11:32 PM
So any news on his return ?

Allstar
08-10-2011, 01:32 AM
So any news on his return ?

It's a day to day thing. He was pulled out of practice because it tightened up. Then he went out the next day and the thing happened. The fact that he tried it again the very next day would indicate that he doesn't expect this to keep him out too long.

CloakNNNdagger
08-10-2011, 12:44 PM
It's a day to day thing. He was pulled out of practice because it tightened up. Then he went out the next day and the thing happened. The fact that he tried it again the very next day would indicate that he doesn't expect this to keep him out too long.

..............or they are trying to let him return too soon.

JamesBill
08-10-2011, 12:46 PM
He was obviously limping at practice today. I am now officially worried and glad we have great depth at RB.