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DocBar
07-31-2011, 11:49 AM
LINK (http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/7677086.html)

After seeing his team blow five games in the fourth quarter or overtime and finish 6-10 in what became the most exasperating and disappointing season in Texans history, owner Bob McNair vowed he would no longer tolerate losing.

"It's a good thing there aren't any cliffs in Harris County, or I would have found one," McNair said, looking back at last season. "I expect to win. When we lose, I'm so devastated I don't want to see anybody. It kills me because I'm so competitive. It's just very disheartening."

Now that the NFL lockout is over and the Texans are starting training camp and preparing for coach Gary Kubiak's sixth season, McNair's frustration has turned into unmitigated optimism. He has higher expectations than at any time during his first nine years as owner.

"I want to see us do more than just make the playoffs," he said. "That's what I expect. I think we have the talent to do it. I think we've got the coaching staff to do it.

"We've got to be as good as we can be. If we do that, we're going to be in the playoffs. Not only are we going to be in the playoffs, but we're going deep into the playoffs."Sitting in the library of his River Oaks home, McNair, 74, looks comfortable and sounds confident. He has recovered from hip-replacement surgery and has returned to the golf course.

He has plenty of time to devote to his NFL team and more than a few opinions on how this season will unfold:

ObsiWan
07-31-2011, 12:06 PM
"It's a good thing there aren't any cliffs in Harris County, or I would have found one," McNair said, looking back at last season. "I expect to win. When we lose, I'm so devastated I don't want to see anybody. It kills me because I'm so competitive. It's just very disheartening."


See Uncle Bob that's your problem, very little imagination....
There's the ship channel bridge, Conoco Tower, San Jac monument...
:D

Seriously though, this was a good interview. Thanks for posting.

On free agents and players

McNair has the coaches he wants. He approved giving Joseph and Manning a combined $32.5 million guaranteed. He leaves it up to Smith and Kubiak to determine which players they want to pursue.
Talking about the free-agent acquisitions and re-signing their free agents, McNair focused on the need at cornerback.
"We wanted to strengthen that position," he said. "We did what we have to do. We also wanted to strengthen our safety position, and we did."
McNair's philosophy is to build through the draft. He is not shy about paying his players, but it's usually not his style to spend millions on players from other teams. This free-agent period was different, though, because the Texans had desperate needs that McNair, Smith and Kubiak thought could help the team make the playoffs for the first time.
Joseph and Manning signed deals totaling $68.75 million.
"It's how you spend the money, not how much money you can spend," McNair said. "Generally speaking, when you sign the really high-priced players, what you're doing is overpaying. And very often you're overpaying at a time that they've already peaked. You're taking money away from other positions that would have allowed you to strengthen your team.
"The key is to get a number of quality players. We've had good luck with the free agents that weren't the most high-profile."
Now the Texans have the second-highest rated cornerback in free agency in Joseph, who also was one of the top free agents overall.


That statement explains a lot

DocBar
07-31-2011, 12:07 PM
See Uncle Bob that's your problem, very little imagination....
There's the ship channel bridge, Conoco Tower, San Jac monument...
:DThe top of Reliant Stadium....just going with ya on this...

ObsiWan
07-31-2011, 12:44 PM
The top of Reliant Stadium....just going with ya on this...

Seriously though, that was as much as I've seen Uncle Bob say in the media in quite a long time. Good post.

DocBar
07-31-2011, 12:51 PM
I agree. I really liked the interview. It's been my position that McNair considers a lot more than most give him credit for. I think we have one of the better owners in the league and he's trying his best to build the right long term foundation for his team.

Lucky
07-31-2011, 12:57 PM
"We've had good luck with the free agents that weren't the most high-profile."Such as???

Good luck and free agents should never be in the same sentence when discussing the Houston Texans.

"Unmitigated" optimism? Hey, I'm optimistic. It's the football fan inside who wants to believe I'll get to kick the ball, no matter how many times Lucy lifts it before I can. But, that optimism is mitigated by watching these Kubiak-led "warriors" flop year after year. I'm hopeful. But if they don't win, I'll know why.

http://eatitorwearit.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/charlie_brown_lucy_football.jpg

Maddict5
07-31-2011, 01:03 PM
Such as???



off the top of my head: vonta leach, derek ward, joel dressen, kevin walter & chris myers (low rd rfa's), wade smith, rashad butler, pollard & demps for a season each

Porky
07-31-2011, 01:27 PM
It's all lip service to me. Just a PR move to keep the turnstiles moving and the beer selling another year. I tend to be one that says don't tell me what your going to do, show me what you are going to do. Seeing is believing.

He can say how much he wants to win - but he hasn't shown it. And now we let Leach go, another move a loser makes just at a time when we were gaining momentum this offseason. That is showing me that he doesn't want to win. We needed to keep Leach and 3 yrs at 11 mil is reasonable for an all-pro who helped turn a UDFA into the league's top RB a yr ago. You don't replace a guy like that with someone off the street.

The wool gets pulled over our eyes again, but some of us understand this man's losing mentality.

Wolf
07-31-2011, 01:29 PM
During a recent interview with John McClain of the Houston Chronicle, Texans owner Bob McNair said it's time for the Texans to not only make the playoffs, but do something when they get there.

"I want to see us do more than just make the playoffs," McNair said. "That's what I expect. I think we have the talent to do it. I think we've got the coaching staff to do it."

Read the entire article here.

McNair spoke about several topics related to the state of the franchise. Let's take some of the more significant comments and slice and dice, one-by-one.

On the quote above about doing more this season than just making the playoffs:

Houston Texans Examiner (HTE): Great. Agree wholeheartedly. The bar needs to be set high enough so that even if you don't reach your goal, you've achieved something more than what you have in the past.

On what would happen if the Texans have another losing season:

McNair: "We're all accountable. If we don't deliver value for our fans and make for a happy experience when they come to Reliant Stadium, (Gary Kubiak and Rick Smith) won't be there. But (just) Gary and Rick? (The jobs of) everybody in the organization (are) on the line. They all know that. We'll be patient and give people the resources and give them enough time to get the job done, but if they don't do it, then we have to get somebody else."

HTE: Patience and loyalty are admirable qualities in a person. Being able to recognize when you're being patient and loyal to a fault is even more admirable.

On McClain stating the obvious that McNair doesn't want to fire Kubiak:

Continue reading on Examiner.com Bob McNair speaks, we react - Houston Houston Texans | Examiner.com http://www.examiner.com/houston-texans-in-houston/parsing-bob-mcnair-s-comments#ixzz1ThmHCbSD




http://www.examiner.com/houston-texans-in-houston/parsing-bob-mcnair-s-comments

BigBull17
07-31-2011, 02:29 PM
It's all lip service to me. Just a PR move to keep the turnstiles moving and the beer selling another year. I tend to be one that says don't tell me what your going to do, show me what you are going to do. Seeing is believing.

He can say how much he wants to win - but he hasn't shown it. And now we let Leach go, another move a loser makes just at a time when we were gaining momentum this offseason. That is showing me that he doesn't want to win. We needed to keep Leach and 3 yrs at 11 mil is reasonable for an all-pro who helped turn a UDFA into the league's top RB a yr ago. You don't replace a guy like that with someone off the street.

The wool gets pulled over our eyes again, but some of us understand this man's losing mentality.

Except they spent that money on a CB and Safty tha we desperately needed. We also have our draft picks to sign, need one more depth Cb, and want some "just in case" money for camp casualties. A loser over pays a fb that is a's one dimensional a's it gets instead of making your team better.

Marcus
07-31-2011, 02:46 PM
It's all lip service to me. Just a PR move to keep the turnstiles moving and the beer selling another year. I tend to be one that says don't tell me what your going to do, show me what you are going to do. Seeing is believing.

He can say how much he wants to win - but he hasn't shown it. And now we let Leach go, another move a loser makes just at a time when we were gaining momentum this offseason. That is showing me that he doesn't want to win. We needed to keep Leach and 3 yrs at 11 mil is reasonable for an all-pro who helped turn a UDFA into the league's top RB a yr ago. You don't replace a guy like that with someone off the street.

The wool gets pulled over our eyes again, but some of us understand this man's losing mentality.

We're not overreacting too much on the Leach thing, are we?

I mean, what do you expect when you vote the guy to the Pro Bowl? And what do you expect from free agency? Only to win some, and not lose some?

But to say that losing Leach to free agency shows you that McNair "doesn't really want to win" . . .

Yeah OK . . . Whatever. :rolleyes:

Porky
07-31-2011, 03:05 PM
Leach was also important in the passing game and worked as a relief valve for Schaub numerous times. I don't think of him as one dimensional. If we pick up a halfway decent FB, I think we can still be ok there, but I do think you guys under estimate Leach's value to this offense. This was a huge blow to this team, no doubt in my mind. And you let decent guys go, but you don't let all-pro's go when the cost is as reasonable as Leach was going to be.

ChampionTexan
07-31-2011, 03:09 PM
Leach was also important in the passing game and worked as a relief valve for Schaub numerous times.

Numerous = 8?

While I do have a concern about Vonta's leaving, it's mostly in Red Zone situations. I think his pass catching role will be considerably easier to replace - it doesn't even have to be a FB who replaces it.

thunderkyss
07-31-2011, 03:22 PM
Seriously though, this was a good interview. Thanks for posting.
McNair Said
"Generally speaking, when you sign the really high-priced players, what you're doing is overpaying. And very often you're overpaying at a time that they've already peaked. You're taking money away from other positions that would have allowed you to strengthen your team.
That statement explains a lot


I don't agree with that statement.
Some people do.

Several organizations have become successful with that thinking. Patriots, Colts, Pittsburgh.

So even though I do not agree with his belief, I am not going to act like mine is the only one.

I wonder if he thinks he is over-spending for Joseph & Manning. It would have been nice if we had drafted them..... but we didn't. We can only draft so many players, sometimes we get it right, sometimes we get it wrong. I think it is important to acknowledge when we are wrong & do what it takes to fix it.

Johnathan Joseph is the perfect example. We didn't draft him in 2006. We fix that problem signing him in FA. Paying Dunta that same money to stay would have been worse than what we have now.

steelbtexan
07-31-2011, 03:22 PM
Billionaire BoBBy if you were sincere in your comments why do Rick and Gary still have jobs? There w/l record says that you aren't holding them accountable.

BTW, BoBBY bringing in Bum and Dante as PR schills for the losers that are Rick and Gary as a preemptive PR move was a stroke of marketing genius. Forget about what the paying customers want and Garys W/L record. Just keep on with status quo. We dont want to do anything traumatic like hiring a winning GM/HC.

I think it's sad that Wade ran the draft this yr and it was the best draft since 2006. IMHO That's an indictment of Rick/Gary. Where's the accountability that seems to be your mantra BoBBY? Are you content with blowing smoke up your fans butts?

Porky
07-31-2011, 03:32 PM
Billionaire BoBBy if you were sincere in your comments why do Rick and Gary still have jobs? There w/l record says that you aren't holding them accountable.

BTW, BoBBY bringing in Bum and Dante as PR schills for the losers that are Rick and Gary as a preemptive PR move was a stroke of marketing genius. Forget about what the paying customers want and Garys W/L record. Just keep on with status quo. We dont want to do anything traumatic like hiring a winning GM/HC.

I think it's sad that Wade ran the draft this yr and it was the best draft since 2006. IMHO That's an indictment of Rick/Gary. Where's the accountability that seems to be your mantra BoBBY? Are you content with blowing smoke up your fans butts?

Couldn't have said it better myself. This guy reminds me of our President. Talks a good game, but actions speak much louder than words.

thunderkyss
07-31-2011, 03:40 PM
It's all lip service to me. Just a PR move to keep the turnstiles moving and the beer selling another year. I tend to be one that says don't tell me what your going to do, show me what you are going to do. Seeing is believing.

He can say how much he wants to win - but he hasn't shown it. And now we let Leach go, another move a loser makes just at a time when we were gaining momentum this offseason. That is showing me that he doesn't want to win. We needed to keep Leach and 3 yrs at 11 mil is reasonable for an all-pro who helped turn a UDFA into the league's top RB a yr ago. You don't replace a guy like that with someone off the street.

The wool gets pulled over our eyes again, but some of us understand this man's losing mentality.

Leach was a beast, but he served his purpose.

Remember the first fullback Kubiak picked? He's supposed to be more of a threat out of the backfield than a run blocker. We stumbled onto Leach at a time when the OL wasn't doing its thing. Kubiak trusting different people to teach his OL. 2008, Kubiak threw all that away & went back to what he knows.

IMO 2008 he started teaching his version of the ZBS. Our OL struggled, part of the reason why Steve struggled to find holes. By the end of the season you could see a big difference in the way they blocked. That also happened to be around the time Arian Foster showed up.

2009, no doubt about it, our starting five have got it down pat......

I think we were going to be moving away from Leach anyway.

thunderkyss
07-31-2011, 03:45 PM
Numerous = 8?

While I do have a concern about Vonta's leaving, it's mostly in Red Zone situations. I think his pass catching role will be considerably easier to replace - it doesn't even have to be a FB who replaces it.

That's another thing. In short yardage situations, why get away from what we're good at, stretching the field. If we don't have the people to blow defenses off the line, why try?

Run the zone stretch, every now & then throw in a naked bootleg.

thunderkyss
07-31-2011, 03:57 PM
Billionaire BoBBy if you were sincere in your comments why do Rick and Gary still have jobs? There w/l record says that you aren't holding them accountable.

He's answered this question hundreds of times. He feels like Kubiak is his coach. He feels like Rick Smith has done at least an adequate job.

Firing someone is not the only way to hold someone accountable.

Are you accountable at your job? How many times have you been fired?


BTW, BoBBY bringing in Bum and Dante as PR schills for the losers that are Rick and Gary as a preemptive PR move was a stroke of marketing genius. Forget about what the paying customers want and Garys W/L record. Just keep on with status quo. We dont want to do anything traumatic like hiring a winning GM/HC.

Don't speak for me.

I think it's sad that Wade ran the draft this yr and it was the best draft since 2006. IMHO That's an indictment of Rick/Gary. Where's the accountability that seems to be your mantra BoBBY? Are you content with blowing smoke up your fans butts?

These guys haven't got on the field yet, & it's the best draft since 2006? What's sad is that we fans keep moving the freak'n target & wonder why it's so hard for McNair to hit.

This draft is no different than the 2009 draft. Cushing, Barwin, Caldwell, Casey, Quin, McCain, Nolan..... no different other than we've seen those guys play in the NFL.....

2010 draft don't look all that bad either. Ben Tate, Earl Mitchell, Darrel Sharpton, Dorin Dickerson are still plenty to get excited about. Sherrick McMannis, I like that pick as much as the Carmichael pick.. & the book isn't closed yet on Kareem Jackson.

The book hasn't been opened on the 2011 draft... & you say better?

Lucky
07-31-2011, 04:11 PM
off the top of my head: vonta leach, derek ward, joel dressen, kevin walter & chris myers (low rd rfa's), wade smith, rashad butler, pollard & demps for a season each
Other than Leach, none of these guys are special (though Pollard had his moments). Just about every GM in the league can point to finding JAG players like Dreessen, Myers, and Walter (who wasn't signed by Smith). No better (or worse) than most teams in this regard.

I almost went off (again) on McNair, but aj saved me the trouble (http://www.examiner.com/houston-texans-in-houston/parsing-bob-mcnair-s-comments):

On McClain stating the obvious that McNair doesn't want to fire Kubiak:
McNair: "Nobody wants to win more than Gary does. He's from Houston. He's a good person. He's a good coach. His players like him. He's never lost control of the locker room - a lot of things fans don't take into consideration."
HTE: Okay, here we go. This is the part that almost prompted me to start writing this at 2:30 this morning.


"Nobody wants to win more than Gary does" >> Okay, I'll give you that one. That's probably true. But wanting to win and knowing how to win are two distinctly different things.
"He's from Houston." >> So what? I'm from Houston. We're all from Houston. Give me a guy from Alaska or Timbuktu - as long as he can coach winning football.
"He's a good person" >> I think we all know that about Gary, he's a helluva nice guy and character is at the top of McNair's list of priorities, but when you start rationalizing this into the equation, that's how you get to a head coach with a 37-43 record entering his sixth year in the league.
"He's a good coach" >> Some argue that he's a great offensive mind, a great offensive coordinator, but lacks the leadership skills that make good head coaches.
"His players like him. He's never lost control of the locker room" >> Losing the locker room is the kiss of death for coaches, so yes, that's important. And of course his players like him because he's a nice guy. But being a nice guy doesn't mean you're a good leader. I think any of us that have been in the working world for a while have run across members of management that are really nice guys or gals but aren't very good managers.
"(these are) a lot of things fans don't take into consideration" >> You're right. Fans don't place top priority on whether our head coach is a "nice guy" or that he's from Houston or that his players really like him. We care about the number in the win column being larger than the number in the loss column. If you're a winner and you happen to be a nice guy too, then great, bonus. This is what some fans refer to as the "holding on to David Carr too long syndrome" - because he was such a nice guy.



I read something like this from McNair, and I wonder if he will ever get it. Basically, he'll have to luck into a winner. Because winning his not his top priority. Every once in a while, Mike Brown gets to the playoffs. Not because he's a good owner. But because his team eventually gets lucky. I'm not saying that Bob McNair is a bad owner in the same fashion as Mike Brown. Just that like Mike Brown, he doesn't value winning as his highest priority.

thunderkyss
07-31-2011, 04:29 PM
I read something like this from McNair, and I wonder if he will ever get it. Basically, he'll have to luck into a winner. Because winning his not his top priority. Every once in a while, Mike Brown gets to the playoffs. Not because he's a good owner. But because his team eventually gets lucky. I'm not saying that Bob McNair is a bad owner in the same fashion as Mike Brown. Just that like Mike Brown, he doesn't value winning as his highest priority.

I think it's a chicken & egg kind of thing.

McNair obviously believes winning is a by product of all those other things.

Aj seems to think winning happens because you say it's the most important thing.

steelbtexan
07-31-2011, 04:34 PM
Other than Leach, none of these guys are special (though Pollard had his moments). Just about every GM in the league can point to finding JAG players like Dreessen, Myers, and Walter (who wasn't signed by Smith). No better (or worse) than most teams in this regard.

I almost went off (again) on McNair, but aj saved me the trouble (http://www.examiner.com/houston-texans-in-houston/parsing-bob-mcnair-s-comments):



I read something like this from McNair, and I wonder if he will ever get it. Basically, he'll have to luck into a winner. Because winning his not his top priority. Every once in a while, Mike Brown gets to the playoffs. Not because he's a good owner. But because his team eventually gets lucky. I'm not saying that Bob McNair is a bad owner in the same fashion as Mike Brown. Just that like Mike Brown, he doesn't value winning as his highest priority.

And more fans are starting to catch onto BoBBys game. This is why he spent $$$$ in FA and hired Wade. Who's not only a good DC. But also being the son of Bum is a great PR move for the team. BoBBy is a genius. He knows how to play to his fanbase and make a ton of $$$. While his team hasn't accomplished a darn thing for almost a decade now.

thunderkyss
07-31-2011, 04:45 PM
And more fans are starting to catch onto BoBBys game. This is why he spent $$$$ in FA and hired Wade.

Of course, that's the only reason Mr. McNair would spend money. We've already established that winning isn't important to him at all....

McNair's only sold 60,000 tickets during the lock-out. Surely the fans have caught on.. BRILLIaNT.....

steelbtexan
07-31-2011, 04:51 PM
He's answered this question hundreds of times. He feels like Kubiak is his coach. He feels like Rick Smith has done at least an adequate job.

Firing someone is not the only way to hold someone accountable.

Are you accountable at your job? How many times have you been fired?

[Qoute//] A couple of times, and how BoBBy could feel this way after 5 yrs of these losers amazes me. How could he say with a straight face Rack or Gary have done an adequate job?


Don't speak for me.

[Quote//] Speaking for myself, not you. Sorry for the misunderstanding.


These guys haven't got on the field yet, & it's the best draft since 2006? What's sad is that we fans keep moving the freak'n target & wonder why it's so hard for McNair to hit.

This draft is no different than the 2009 draft. Cushing, Barwin, Caldwell, Casey, Quin, McCain, Nolan..... no different other than we've seen those guys play in the NFL.....

[Quote//] Pregnant men, guys that feet are turned the wrong way, and a bunch of JAGS isn't a good draft. Excluding Quin and hopefully Barwin makes it back maybe Cushing had his baby this offseason and can get back to playing football again.

2010 draft don't look all that bad either. Ben Tate, Earl Mitchell, Darrel Sharpton, Dorin Dickerson are still plenty to get excited about. Sherrick McMannis, I like that pick as much as the Carmichael pick.. & the book isn't closed yet on Kareem Jackson.

The book hasn't been opened on the 2011 draft... & you say better?

[Quote//] I dont see any difference maker in this draft. Where are the stars? Carmicheal was a 2011 pick? Wades I'm glad you like it I do too. Carmicheal has a chance to be a good nickle CB. He's going to be a really good gunner on ST's.

thunderkyss
07-31-2011, 04:54 PM
I dont see any difference maker in this draft. Where are the stars? Carmicheal was a 2011 pick? Wades I'm glad you like it I do too. Carmicheal has a chance to be a good nickle CB. He's going to be a really good gunner on ST's.

I see no difference between McMannis

a 2010 pick


and Carmicheal


a 2011 pick


supports my argument that this draft is really similar to our 2 previous drafts.

Rey
07-31-2011, 04:57 PM
I didn't take Mcnairs comments that way.

I took it as him saying that you don't have to throw the baby out with the bath water. Kubiak has done some things wrong, but he wanted to address what he perceived to be the major issue: defense.

For the record I disagree with him. The entire team was prone to slow starts last year. Just like offense "turned it on" in the second halves, defense had to have done the same thing or else we wouldn't have made any comebacks.

At the end of the day though all you remember is that the defense gave up a million yards and points and the offense was able to score.

That's missing the elephant in the room which is kubiaks teams have consistently come into games unprepared and have consistently made into bitches by more physical teams.

I think McNair wants to win and he is doing what he believes is right. Hell, lots of fans agree with him.

Hopefully this thing works and the team can overcome the fact that there isnt a good head coach in charge. Hopefully this offensive guru/ defensive guru thing plays out the way McNair hopes. Hopefully the fact that he decided to add some good players in free agency works.

Because if it doesn't it's going to be a sad day for the fans.

I actually think that we may be able to overcome kubiaks ineptness with wade, and the free agents and the draft.

But if it doesn't work I can't say I will be totally dumbfounded.

steelbtexan
07-31-2011, 05:00 PM
I see no difference between McMannis

a 2010 pick


and Carmicheal


a 2011 pick


supports my argument that this draft is really similar to our 2 previous drafts.

Carmicheal is alot faster than McMannis and is a much better cover guy. IMHO They will be competing for the last CB job so time will tell. Isn't it great that there's enough depth that we can debate these kinds of things?

Disagree about the 2 previous draft things. But only time will tell.

Playoffs
07-31-2011, 05:31 PM
I like McNair. You can sense he's learning as he goes.

First time I've snapped to the fact he's 74 years old -- looks younger to me. I hope he's around for a long time.

badboy
07-31-2011, 05:47 PM
Nothing new here. Move along. Sweeper coming through.

steelbtexan
07-31-2011, 07:21 PM
I like McNair. You can sense he's learning as he goes.

First time I've snapped to the fact he's 74 years old -- looks younger to me. I hope he's around for a long time.

Dont want to see the man die.

But it appears to me that you're embracing mediocrity.