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b0ng
07-29-2011, 08:46 PM
http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/MGM-sportsbook-releases-2011-NFL-win-totals.html

The texans are currently sitting at the number "8" for the over/under on their win total this year. Everything in me wants to scream "bet the over" but on this team I can't logically bring myself to do it. Where do you guys sit?

Norg
07-29-2011, 08:51 PM
vs Colts - W
@MIA- W
@Saints - L
vs Pitts- W
vs Raiders- W
@ Ravens -W
@ Titans - W
vs Jax - W
vs CLe - W
@ Tampa -W
@ JAX -W
vs ATL -L
@ Cincy -W
vs Panthers -W
@ Indy -W
vs Tenn -L

thats all i got so far thats what the homer in me thinks

#1 Seed in the AFC and First round Bye home game

hradhak
07-29-2011, 08:51 PM
Over.
I'd bet my life savings on it. I can't imagine that this team would win less than 8 games. They have too much talent and finally have a defensive coach.

Goatcheese
07-29-2011, 08:54 PM
The contrarian in me says "push" :spin:

DocBar
07-29-2011, 08:54 PM
Over. I'm a :homer:

b0ng
07-29-2011, 08:55 PM
Over.
I'd bet my life savings on it. I can't imagine that this team would win less than 8 games. They have too much talent and finally have a defensive coach.

Injuries are one thing which are completely unpredictable and can completely torpedo a season. I honestly think that if the number was 7.5 or 7 I'd easily feel comfortable betting the over, but the first 6 games look so brutal right now that I can see the team getting in a funk midway through the season (like they always seem to).

Rey
07-29-2011, 08:58 PM
Over.

Thorn
07-29-2011, 09:00 PM
What I want and what usually happens are two different things. I'll pass on the over/under thingie.

Corrosion
07-29-2011, 09:03 PM
Injuries are one thing which are completely unpredictable and can completely torpedo a season. I honestly think that if the number was 7.5 or 7 I'd easily feel comfortable betting the over, but the first 6 games look so brutal right now that I can see the team getting in a funk midway through the season (like they always seem to).

Those first 6 looked brutal when the schedule was released but I think things have changed considerably since.


Peyton's hurt they are aging and havent done much to upgrade their talent nor get all their own FA's signed. They will have a rookie LT ....

Who's QB in Miami ?

NO still looks tough as does Pittsburgh.


The Raiders are .... well , the Raiders. Who's their QB ?

The Ravens cut a bunch of guy's who were contributors and havent replaced them yet.

After the Ravens the next five games are winnable .....


I'd have to put my money on the over ....

Wolf
07-29-2011, 09:06 PM
baring injury over 8

wade is heads and shoulders above Bush in the DC department

The Pencil Neck
07-29-2011, 09:16 PM
I'm a homer and a unicorns and sunshine kind of guy.

Over.

badboy
07-29-2011, 09:17 PM
Over. If we don get more than 2 wins over 6-10; all coaches and Smith have to go. This is a solid foundation barring injuries. If the draftees do only as expected, we are in driver's seat to start drafting depth. We should be able to start weeding out weaker players next off season. We've gotten rid of a lot this go around.

CTWade
07-29-2011, 09:21 PM
Schaub, Andre, Arian, Mario, and Jonathan are eating at a restaurant when a gas leak causes an explosion, crippling them all for the season. Texans finish 2-14.

So under.

thetexanator
07-29-2011, 09:23 PM
bet the over

b0ng
07-29-2011, 09:26 PM
Those first 6 looked brutal when the schedule was released but I think things have changed considerably since.


Peyton's hurt they are aging and havent done much to upgrade their talent nor get all their own FA's signed. They will have a rookie LT ....

Who's QB in Miami ?

NO still looks tough as does Pittsburgh.


The Raiders are .... well , the Raiders. Who's their QB ?

The Ravens cut a bunch of guy's who were contributors and havent replaced them yet.

After the Ravens the next five games are winnable .....


I'd have to put my money on the over ....

The thing with the Colts is that we have a history of just giving up when playing them almost always once a year and most of the time twice. I hope that Peyton isn't 100% in the first game, but I can't imagine it'll be the same when we meet him again.

Miami's O-line scares me into thinking that they can do enough to neutralize an alignment shift to the 3-4. I think this is the most winnable game of the first 6.

The Raiders were actually decent last year even with Jason Campbell/Bruce Gradkowski under center. McFadden is still solid and I think they are about to sign Jared Gaither to be their LT which is probably an upgrade from Mario Henderson. This is probably the 2nd most winnable game, but they have beaten us before with even less on their team. Their defense looks like it's going to be crap, but I wouldn't totally bank on that being the case 100%.

I can't call us to beat the Ravens yet but I think we've got an even better shot at it than we did last year but as long as Suggs and Ngata are in their front 7 they do scare me.

I think my big problem is that the Texans have been very very streaky beating teams that they shouldn't on occasion but losing in bunches for no good reason at all.

EDIT: I think my biggest concern is that our schedule has a lot of run first teams and we are apparently going to rely on Mitchell/Cody manning the NT spot to keep our ILB's clean. When I think of that I have flashbacks of the 2005 season when our 3-4 was absolutely terrible at stopping the run.

Wolf6151
07-29-2011, 09:47 PM
Over. If we don get more than 2 wins over 6-10; all coaches and Smith have to go. This is a solid foundation barring injuries. If the draftees do only as expected, we are in driver's seat to start drafting depth. We should be able to start weeding out weaker players next off season. We've gotten rid of a lot this go around.

^^^^^ This. I'm really looking forward to next years draft and FA when we can finally fill the few remaining holes we have on the team and really trim alot of the remaining fat on this team. We're finally building the foundation for a very good team and think that once these guys gell as a team they could be special. Looking forward 2yrs. from now the Texans could be scary good if we continue to draft like we did this year and fill a hole or 2 in FA.

As for the original question I'll say it's a push as well. Kubiak is still in charge and our pieces need to gell and prove their worth on the field. I still ain't drinking to the battle red Koolaid.

DoCRoN
07-29-2011, 09:49 PM
I've bet the over the past 2 seasons; I'm 1-1 on that prop :-/

Big question - what does it pay? Once they set the over/under win totals, they don't change it. It stays at over/under 8 wins (or whatever the # is). What will change is the payout. If the book gets a bunch of action on the over, it will get adjusted to a lesser payout (say from -120 to -130 or -140)..

b0ng
07-29-2011, 09:50 PM
I've bet the over the past 2 seasons; I'm 1-1 on that prop :-/

Big question - what does it pay? Once they set the over/under win totals, they don't change it. It stays at over/under 8 wins (or whatever the # is). What will change is the payout. If the book gets a bunch of action on the over, it will get adjusted to a lesser payout (say from -120 to -130 or -140)..

over is at like +115 and under is like -105 I think. Not much difference really.

BullNation4Life
07-29-2011, 10:13 PM
vs Colts - W
@MIA- W
@Saints - L
vs Pitts- W
vs Raiders- W
@ Ravens -W
@ Titans - W
vs Jax - W
vs CLe - W
@ Tampa -W
@ JAX -W
vs ATL -L
@ Cincy -W
vs Panthers -W
@ Indy -W
vs Tenn -L

thats all i got so far thats what the homer in me thinks

#1 Seed in the AFC and First round Bye home game

I am taking that the last loss to the Titans at home is becasue the starters sit?

I think Pitt might be a loss other than that, I can see this schedule coming to fruition...

thunderkyss
07-29-2011, 10:42 PM
http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/MGM-sportsbook-releases-2011-NFL-win-totals.html

The texans are currently sitting at the number "8" for the over/under on their win total this year. Everything in me wants to scream "bet the over" but on this team I can't logically bring myself to do it. Where do you guys sit?

I'm taking the under. Think about it.

We hire a new DC... Wade Phillips. He's got serious DC creds.

We have a nice defensive centered draft... a true 3-4 5-tech, a rush OLB, a cover corner, 2 sawheet CB prospects.

We have nice FA signings..... a veteran cover corner, a veteran safety, both with ball skills.

Basically what I am saying, is we have a well equipped car with a driver that knows what to do with it.

So what's the problem?

They haven't done anything yet. They didn't win the Super Bowl last year, or the year before that, or the year before that. They haven't made it to the play-offs once in their existence. They have yet to pown their division rivals.

If they've never done it before.... chances are they aren't ever going to do it.

It's pointless to root for them, it's pointless to support them, it's pointless to believe

I've given up on hope & change.

beerlover
07-29-2011, 10:48 PM
I can usually tell how they're progressing just by watching pre-season games. Last year I had a terrible feeling after watching New Orleans game. So how about we wait until we can actually watch them play some football to make any bold predictions? Seems like they're on the right path, so lets pat them on the back, but demand they keep working hard & improving.

Doppelganger
07-29-2011, 10:49 PM
I am predicting a 10-6 record, so over.

badboy
07-29-2011, 10:54 PM
I'm taking the under. Think about it.

We hire a new DC... Wade Phillips. He's got serious DC creds.

We have a nice defensive centered draft... a true 3-4 5-tech, a rush OLB, a cover corner, 2 sawheet CB prospects.

We have nice FA signings..... a veteran cover corner, a veteran safety, both with ball skills.

Basically what I am saying, is we have a well equipped car with a driver that knows what to do with it.

So what's the problem?

They haven't done anything yet. They didn't win the Super Bowl last year, or the year before that, or the year before that. They haven't made it to the play-offs once in their existence. They have yet to pown their division rivals.

If they've never done it before.... chances are they aren't ever going to do it.

It's pointless to root for them, it's pointless to support them, it's pointless to believe

I've given up on hope & change.You identify all that and don't think it will bring you another 3 wins? You need to find another team.

Trap_Star
07-29-2011, 10:58 PM
i take the "push" /tonythehachetman

8-8

last i checked, gary is still leading the charge...and i have 0 faith in him until proven otherwise.

Stemp
07-29-2011, 11:28 PM
Barring any major injuries, over.

EllisUnit
07-29-2011, 11:30 PM
I'm taking the under. Think about it.

We hire a new DC... Wade Phillips. He's got serious DC creds.

We have a nice defensive centered draft... a true 3-4 5-tech, a rush OLB, a cover corner, 2 sawheet CB prospects.

We have nice FA signings..... a veteran cover corner, a veteran safety, both with ball skills.

Basically what I am saying, is we have a well equipped car with a driver that knows what to do with it.

So what's the problem?

They haven't done anything yet. They didn't win the Super Bowl last year, or the year before that, or the year before that. They haven't made it to the play-offs once in their existence. They have yet to pown their division rivals.

If they've never done it before.... chances are they aren't ever going to do it.

It's pointless to root for them, it's pointless to support them, it's pointless to believe

I've given up on hope & change.

If its so pointless you sure have been on here a lot ! :fingergun:

House of Pain
07-29-2011, 11:52 PM
I'm taking the under. Think about it.

We hire a new DC... Wade Phillips. He's got serious DC creds.

We have a nice defensive centered draft... a true 3-4 5-tech, a rush OLB, a cover corner, 2 sawheet CB prospects.

We have nice FA signings..... a veteran cover corner, a veteran safety, both with ball skills.

Basically what I am saying, is we have a well equipped car with a driver that knows what to do with it.

So what's the problem?

They haven't done anything yet. They didn't win the Super Bowl last year, or the year before that, or the year before that. They haven't made it to the play-offs once in their existence. They have yet to pown their division rivals.

If they've never done it before.... chances are they aren't ever going to do it.

It's pointless to root for them, it's pointless to support them, it's pointless to believe

I've given up on hope & change.

So exactly how much Emo do you listen to in a given week?

TheMatrix31
07-30-2011, 01:34 AM
Given TKs disposition last year, I have to believe he's just making fun of the constant downer/pessimists that run amock around here.

But things can change, I guess.

I'll take the over, barring injuries.

TexanSam
07-30-2011, 01:38 AM
I would say over. 10-6 is my guess. Texans will look strong by the mid-point of the season but will go through some early struggles defensively due to learning a new system.

DocBar
07-30-2011, 01:41 AM
I'm taking the under. Think about it.

We hire a new DC... Wade Phillips. He's got serious DC creds.

We have a nice defensive centered draft... a true 3-4 5-tech, a rush OLB, a cover corner, 2 sawheet CB prospects.

We have nice FA signings..... a veteran cover corner, a veteran safety, both with ball skills.

Basically what I am saying, is we have a well equipped car with a driver that knows what to do with it.

So what's the problem?

They haven't done anything yet. They didn't win the Super Bowl last year, or the year before that, or the year before that. They haven't made it to the play-offs once in their existence. They have yet to pown their division rivals.

If they've never done it before.... chances are they aren't ever going to do it.

It's pointless to root for them, it's pointless to support them, it's pointless to believe

I've given up on hope & change.I agree with the final analysis but disagree with the process. Think about it a bit and you'll understand why.
TK, I hope Dex doesn't see this post. You just cast disperions on the Anointd One. That will not set well with him. I hope you're in good graces with him.

SteveSlaton20
07-30-2011, 02:27 AM
vs Colts - L
@MIA- W
@Saints - L
vs Pitts- L
vs Raiders- W
@ Ravens -L
@ Titans - W
vs Jax - W
vs CLe - W
@ Tampa - L
@ JAX -W
vs ATL - L
@ Cincy - W
vs Panthers - W
@ Indy - L
vs Tenn - L

8-8, maybe 9-7/10-6.

ObsiWan
07-30-2011, 02:59 AM
vs Colts - W
@MIA- W
@Saints - L
vs Pitts- W
vs Raiders- W
@ Ravens -W
@ Titans - W
vs Jax - W
vs CLe - W
@ Tampa -W
@ JAX -W
vs ATL -L
@ Cincy -W
vs Panthers -W
@ Indy -W
vs Tenn -L

thats all i got so far thats what the homer in me thinks

#1 Seed in the AFC and First round Bye home game
Wait... WHAT?
You have us 5-1 in the division, 7-1 ON THE ROAD, 13-3 overall, AND going on an 8-game winning streak!! While those improbabilities (historically speaking of course) set off all sorts of ALARM bells in my football logic centers, the :homer: in me still wants desperately to believe you.

I think we'll split in the division; i.e., go 3-3 since we've never won IN Indy and Jacksonville always finds a way to steal a win from us. I can't see us going up to RavenLand and coming away with a win either.

That still puts me at 10-6 and betting the Over. If we establish a new history and sweep Indy, we win the division.

Allstar
07-30-2011, 03:15 AM
Don't get too crazy guys, you'll end up looking like these Jag fans: http://forum.jaguars.com/index.php?showtopic=695532

thunderkyss
07-30-2011, 03:37 AM
I can't see us going up to RavenLand and coming away with a win either.


That's because we're punks.

Sleep with our girlfriends, kick sand in our face, give us wedgies... we're not going to do anything about it. We might talk about our feelings to anyone who'll listen, but it's getting harder & harder to find interested parties.

The Ravens come to our house every now & then, rape and pillage as they please. We stood up last time, puffed our chests out there, only to get pimp slapped as our kids watched.


:fans:

Corrosion
07-30-2011, 03:52 AM
That's because we're punks.

Sleep with our girlfriends, kick sand in our face, give us wedgies... we're not going to do anything about it. We might talk about our feelings to anyone who'll listen, but it's getting harder & harder to find interested parties.

The Ravens come to our house every now & then, rape and pillage as they please. We stood up last time, puffed our chests out there, only to get pimp slapped as our kids watched.


:fans:

That last Ravens game never should have gone to OT ..... if only JJ had held onto that ball in the end zone .... Game Over , Texans Win.

TheMatrix31
07-30-2011, 03:56 AM
That last Ravens game never should have gone to OT ..... if only JJ had held onto that ball in the end zone .... Game Over , Texans Win.

Arrrrrgh.

ObsiWan
07-30-2011, 03:57 AM
That's because we're punks.

Sleep with our girlfriends, kick sand in our face, give us wedgies... we're not going to do anything about it. We might talk about our feelings to anyone who'll listen, but it's getting harder & harder to find interested parties.

The Ravens come to our house every now & then, rape and pillage as they please. We stood up last time, puffed our chests out there, only to get pimp slapped as our kids watched.


:fans:

Didn't say it was impossible, I just didn't think it was likely.
I think our offense scared the bejesus out of Sugah Ray and his gang. Our offense put up 21 unanswered points on 'em to tie the game at 28 apiece. That don't sound like a pimp slap to me. Schaub don't throw that pick-six in the fourth qtr, we may well have won.
so I ain't sayin' it's impossible cause we ain't skeerd of them as you imply. I just don't think it's likely. I was coming from the mindset that a 7-1 road record is highly unlikely. I could have just as easily picked the Steeler game for the other road loss.

Corrosion
07-30-2011, 04:02 AM
19-0 :trophy: :fans:

ObsiWan
07-30-2011, 04:07 AM
19-0 :trophy: :fans:
put the needle down and stop mainlining the kool-ade
:ahhaha:

Corrosion
07-30-2011, 04:11 AM
put the needle down and stop mainlining the kool-ade
:ahhaha:

Nope .... aint gonna do it. Im gonna enjoy this while I can .... Its not often we Texans fans feel good about our team.


:fans::logo::fans:

ObsiWan
07-30-2011, 04:16 AM
Nope .... aint gonna do it. Im gonna enjoy this while I can .... Its not often we Texans fans feel good about our team.


:fans::logo::fans:

Well, I have to admit I haven't felt this positive since we cut HWWNBN and got a QB who could read defenses.

and for the record, until these signings result in playoff appearances/victories the Schaub pickup and HWWNBN dumping remains at #1 on my all-time list of off-season positives

thunderkyss
07-30-2011, 04:22 AM
I think our offense scared the bejesus out of Sugah Ray and his gang. Our offense put up 21 unanswered points on 'em to tie the game at 28 apiece. That don't sound like a pimp slap to me.

No, that's definitely the puffing the chest part.

Schaub don't throw that pick-six in the fourth qtr, we may well have won.

& That's the ***** slap...


:fans:

Corrosion
07-30-2011, 04:29 AM
No, that's definitely the puffing the chest part.

& That's the ***** slap...


:fans:

What was JJ's dropped TD ? Cutting their own throats ?

Norg
07-30-2011, 04:36 AM
I just got that hunch that the ravens will not be has good this year

I think the browns will give us much more of a problem a young team on the rise and I only have us beat them cause we are at home

ObsiWan
07-30-2011, 04:37 AM
No, that's definitely the puffing the chest part.

& That's the ***** slap...


:fans:

more like a lucky punch than a pimp slap

Showtime100
07-30-2011, 05:44 AM
What I want and what usually happens are two different things. I'll pass on the over/under thingie.

Same here. This July/August feels like last July/August and I wasn't prepared for what happened.

Just me, but I'll go 'over' on 8 when I see a drop of rain fall from the sky and frankly I don't know which will come first, the rain or the Texans sporting 9 wins (year not specified).

Trail.Blazr
07-30-2011, 06:15 AM
Over by 1.

I don't want to be surprised by a slow start, switching to a 3-4.

Hypothetically speaking, what "IF" the Colts are mathematically out of it going into week 16.. Do we see Manning for an entire game? They have a tendency to be conservative with his time during the final games of the regular season...

srrono
07-30-2011, 10:32 AM
I am going over with 10-6

ObsiWan
07-30-2011, 10:36 AM
Same here. This July/August feels like last July/August and I wasn't prepared for what happened.

Just me, but I'll go 'over' on 8 when I see a drop of rain fall from the sky and frankly I don't know which will come first, the rain or the Texans sporting 9 wins (year not specified).

I see your location as Weird, Tx.
any connection to this site?

http://www.weirdtx.com/MainPage.html

Heath Shuler
07-30-2011, 03:59 PM
19-0 :trophy: :fans:

http://www.colts.com/images%5Cnews_photos%5Cfeature/2011_superbowl_big.jpg

:texflag::koolaid:

b0ng
07-30-2011, 04:14 PM
I'm taking the under. Think about it.

We hire a new DC... Wade Phillips. He's got serious DC creds.

We have a nice defensive centered draft... a true 3-4 5-tech, a rush OLB, a cover corner, 2 sawheet CB prospects.

We have nice FA signings..... a veteran cover corner, a veteran safety, both with ball skills.

Basically what I am saying, is we have a well equipped car with a driver that knows what to do with it.

So what's the problem?

They haven't done anything yet. They didn't win the Super Bowl last year, or the year before that, or the year before that. They haven't made it to the play-offs once in their existence. They have yet to pown their division rivals.

If they've never done it before.... chances are they aren't ever going to do it.

It's pointless to root for them, it's pointless to support them, it's pointless to believe

I've given up on hope & change.

Pretty good impersonation of Hervoyel if you ask me.

I can usually tell how they're progressing just by watching pre-season games. Last year I had a terrible feeling after watching New Orleans game. So how about we wait until we can actually watch them play some football to make any bold predictions? Seems like they're on the right path, so lets pat them on the back, but demand they keep working hard & improving.


Vegas doesn't usually wait with stuff like that. Waiting until preseason is underway the number could shift up or down. I'm just saying right now, since Vegas has the stuff out there, what would you bet.

Nope .... aint gonna do it. Im gonna enjoy this while I can .... Its not often we Texans fans feel good about our team.


:fans::logo::fans:

We here in Houston call that the offseason usually. Sometimes just the draft.

devo-x
07-30-2011, 10:31 PM
8-8 or 9-7 with Manning (Safety) intercepting the other Manning (QB) in the first game :fingergun:

TEXANRED
07-30-2011, 10:36 PM
vs Colts - W
@MIA- W
@Saints - L
vs Pitts- L
vs Raiders- W
@ Ravens -L
@ Titans - L
vs Jax - W
vs CLe - W
@ Tampa -L
@ JAX -W
vs ATL -L
@ Cincy -W
vs Panthers -W
@ Indy -L
vs Tenn -W

I say 9-7

And we still miss the playoffs yet again.

Norg
07-31-2011, 02:21 AM
Over by 1.

I don't want to be surprised by a slow start, switching to a 3-4.

Hypothetically speaking, what "IF" the Colts are mathematically out of it going into week 16.. Do we see Manning for an entire game? They have a tendency to be conservative with his time during the final games of the regular season...


better question is will manning last the season ????

Maybe by week 16 we will be playing the colts with some Vet QB off the couch taking the helm ???? like brett farve or something LOL

Corrosion
07-31-2011, 04:09 AM
vs Colts - W
@MIA- W
@Saints - L
vs Pitts- L
vs Raiders- W
@ Ravens -L
@ Titans - L
vs Jax - W
vs CLe - W
@ Tampa -L
@ JAX -W
vs ATL -L
@ Cincy -W
vs Panthers -W
@ Indy -L
vs Tenn -W

I say 9-7

And we still miss the playoffs yet again.

Damn man , quit pissin in my Cheerios.

19-0 :trophy: :fans:

TheMatrix31
07-31-2011, 04:24 AM
There are no games on that schedule that I say "****....we're gonna lose that game FOR SURE".

thunderkyss
07-31-2011, 06:14 AM
I'd love to get to where losing more than 2 games in a row is unheard of, where the team, coach, McNair, whoever decides it ain't going to happen anymore.

Showtime100
07-31-2011, 07:28 AM
I see your location as Weird, Tx.
any connection to this site?

http://www.weirdtx.com/MainPage.html

No, but I like that site..lol. I meant to change it back to Austin, Tx. I used to have AusTenn in protest of having to watch Tennessee games over Houston here, but the VY thing died down because of his play and because Houston was back on the toob.

In Austin you see "Keep Austin Weird" in many places you go as if they need to be encouraged so that's why it's there. Changing it now though. Thanks for the heads-up...lol.

Showtime100
08-01-2011, 06:35 AM
Vonta is gone. F'ing under. He was HUGE to our success. Gone.

Section516
08-01-2011, 07:09 AM
So.

If we win the AFC..

And go to the Super Bowl.. In Indy

And Peyton is sitting there watching..

Do we break our streak of 0-10?

otisbean
08-01-2011, 07:15 AM
vs Colts - W
@MIA- W
@Saints - L
vs Pitts- L
vs Raiders- W
@ Ravens -L
@ Titans - L
vs Jax - W
vs CLe - W
@ Tampa -L
@ JAX -W
vs ATL -L
@ Cincy -W
vs Panthers -W
@ Indy -L
vs Tenn -W

I say 9-7

And we still miss the playoffs yet again.

I think you're on the right track, BUT I don't think we lose to Tenn this year and I think the Bucs game can go either way. So, barring injury issues of course, i think we go 10-6 possibly 11-5