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Allstar
07-26-2011, 06:22 PM
Gary Kubiak Calls Vonta Leach (http://www.myfoxhouston.com/dpp/sports/nfl/110726-gary-kubiak-calls-vonta-leach?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter)

HOUSTON - Houston Texans coach Gary Kubiak called free agent fullback Vonta Leach Tuesday to let him know how much he hopes they can retain his services, according to Leach's agent.

"I think it's great," said Ralph Vitolo, in an interview with FOX 26 Sports. "It shows their committment to Vonta.

"With the head coach involved, hopefully it'll make the job easier to get him signed with Houston."

Leach was named Associated Press First-Team All-Pro last season, his best year in the NFL.

Vitolo said because of that he wants his client to become the highest-paid fullback in the league.

"He deserves to be the highest paid based on the merits he accomplished last season," Vitolo said.

"We are a merits-based society."

Leach just finished a four-year contract worth about $8.2 million.

The highest paid fullback in the NFL is the Eagles' Leonard Weaver, whose contract is for three years worth $11.2 million.

Vitolo said Kubiak wasn't the only Texans offical to call him Tuesday.

So did Chris Olsen, Texans vice-president/football administation.

"We didn't talk numbers, but he reached out to me as soon as he could and I thought that was good of him," Vitolo said.

CloakNNNdagger
07-26-2011, 06:28 PM
Funny, Vonta makes no mention on his Twitter account, while you see others reminding him it's time for his "big payday."

Cjeremy635
07-26-2011, 08:22 PM
I may be in the minority here, but I would be a little worried if we didn't sign Vonta. That cat was a HUGE part in Foster's success last season and he is one tough & durable SOB. I don't think it's as easy as "plug in another FB and have the same results."

NBT
07-26-2011, 09:01 PM
I wouldn't worry too much. Casey can get the job done, and he can fill in at WR, RB, QB, and TE. Oh yeah long snapper also.

DocBar
07-26-2011, 09:16 PM
I would love to see VL sign a $3.5 mil contract for 3 years. That's suitable for his position. If not, look out for more single back sets and an opened up offense along the lines of the Colts and sAints. Win-win for the Texans. When you're a fullback in the NFL, your head should be swollen from contact, not ego.

MEGA SWATT
07-26-2011, 09:48 PM
I may be in the minority here, but I would be a little worried if we didn't sign Vonta. That cat was a HUGE part in Foster's success last season and he is one tough & durable SOB. I don't think it's as easy as "plug in another FB and have the same results."

agreed.:fans:

DocBar
07-26-2011, 09:51 PM
I may be in the minority here, but I would be a little worried if we didn't sign Vonta. That cat was a HUGE part in Foster's success last season and he is one tough & durable SOB. I don't think it's as easy as "plug in another FB and have the same results."Not disagreeing, but does anyone have a breakdown of the % of plays VL was on the field for and what the average yds per play that he was on the field for comes up to? That will go a long way towards determining if we resigning him or go with Casey.

Carr Bombed
07-26-2011, 10:59 PM
Not disagreeing, but does anyone have a breakdown of the % of plays VL was on the field for and what the average yds per play that he was on the field for comes up to? That will go a long way towards determining if we resigning him or go with Casey.

From the stats I've seen Foster got the majority of his yards while working out of a single back set and when Leach was on the sideline and off the field, but it was by a slim margin. It's still just a stat though and doesn't take into account the down and distance where we ran Foster behind Leach. I still think we should retain Vonta, but it does show that Leach wasn't the end all be all to Foster's success last season.

DocBar
07-26-2011, 11:01 PM
From the stats I've seen Foster got the majority of his yards while working out of a single back set and when Leach was on the sideline and off the field, but it was by a slim margin. It's still just a stat though and doesn't take into count the down and distance where we ran Foster behind Leach. I still think we should retain VontaI agree, but it's mostly been on an emotional level. Now that we're talking a potential Leach vs. Aso decision, screw Leach. Sign Aso. I'd rather use a player under contract.

michaelm
07-26-2011, 11:04 PM
Maybe it's just me, but I don't know why there is all of this talk of Casey stepping up to fill Vonta's shoes.
Casey is a good guy, a good all around athlete, and is a good story, but IMO, he's a role player at best. Even then, I'd be hard pressed to say exactly what his strongest role actually is.
I like the guy, but I'm not seeing all of the starting potential that many of you are seeing. I think Casey's bottle rocket has reached it's zenith.

DocBar
07-26-2011, 11:08 PM
Maybe it's just me, but I don't know why there is all of this talk of Casey stepping up to fill Vonta's shoes.
Casey is a good guy, a good all around athlete, and is a good story, but IMO, he's a role player at best. Even then, I'd be hard pressed to say exactly what his strongest roles actually is.
I like the guy, but I'm not seeing all of the starting potential that many of you are seeing. I think Casey's bottle rocket has reached it's zenith.

You obviously don't understand the roles that college TE's can fill in a Kubiak offense. They're like super ninja's or even better.

michaelm
07-26-2011, 11:10 PM
You obviously don't understand the roles that college TE's can fill in a Kubiak offense. They're like super ninja's or even better.

Yes, I guess that's a limitation of a mind like mine...

DocBar
07-26-2011, 11:18 PM
Yes, I guess that's a limitation of a mind like mine... LOL. Illegitimi non carborundum

ArlingtonTexan
07-26-2011, 11:35 PM
:backsout:

michaelm
07-26-2011, 11:36 PM
LOL. Illegitimi non carborundum

:backsout:

Ditto AT. (I had to google it, lol)

DocBar
07-26-2011, 11:41 PM
Ditto AT. (I had to google it, lol)lol. So did I when I first saw it. I like it, though.

TimeKiller
07-27-2011, 12:34 PM
So anyone that makes a pro-bowl gets to be the highest paid at their position?

Get real Mr. Agent. VL's performance MERITS a good, decent contract. Highest paid fullback ever? No.

Double Barrel
07-27-2011, 12:50 PM
I may be in the minority here, but I would be a little worried if we didn't sign Vonta. That cat was a HUGE part in Foster's success last season and he is one tough & durable SOB. I don't think it's as easy as "plug in another FB and have the same results."

Count me in on the minority, too. I think it's foolish to not sign Vonta.

CretorFrigg
07-27-2011, 02:40 PM
Is it possible to sign Vonta without a huge hit to our cap? I want Vonta back, but I'd prefer Asomuhdfhasdfhah, the CB.

DexmanC
07-27-2011, 03:10 PM
From the stats I've seen Foster got the majority of his yards while working out of a single back set and when Leach was on the sideline and off the field, but it was by a slim margin. It's still just a stat though and doesn't take into account the down and distance where we ran Foster behind Leach. I still think we should retain Vonta, but it does show that Leach wasn't the end all be all to Foster's success last season.

Even with Leach on the bench, single-back sets were probably successful
because of the damage Leach did to those linebackers while in the game.
He was SMASHIN' linebackers all year long.

CloakNNNdagger
07-27-2011, 05:19 PM
Is it possible to sign Vonta without a huge hit to our cap? I want Vonta back, but I'd prefer Asomuhdfhasdfhah, the CB.

If you just add one more "h" at the end, you get it right!:tiphat:

wildroot
07-27-2011, 05:50 PM
Well, if we decide to not resign Leach I see that Le'ron McClain is available.

Section516
07-29-2011, 12:00 AM
*Opens Door*

You're next.

Or maybe Franklin/Released ravens DT.

Dutchrudder
07-29-2011, 12:03 AM
I hope he realizes the highest paid FB in the league just got released. I think his value just took a hit and he should get an average of 2.5-3 mill a year.

80tothezone
07-29-2011, 03:36 AM
I wouldn't worry too much. Casey can get the job done, and he can fill in at WR, RB, QB, and TE. Oh yeah long snapper also.

Yeh but do ya really want a swiss army knife for your star to run behind? I woul prefer a big badass tank like leach. Think eddie george post lorezo neal he fell off big time and we need a back to put together 2 consecutive good years.

DexmanC
07-29-2011, 03:39 AM
Yeh but do ya really want a swiss army knife for your star to run behind? I woul prefer a big badass tank like leach. Think eddie george post lorezo neal he fell off big time and we need a back to put together 2 consecutive good years.

Don't forget that Casey has been hurt in each of his two NFL seasons.
Vonta is durable as HELL.

No brainer if you ask me.

80tothezone
07-29-2011, 03:44 AM
Don't forget that Casey has been hurt in each of his two NFL seasons.
Vonta is durable as HELL.

No brainer if you ask me.

Honestly I know I might catch flack for this but I am worried that this foster won't be the same foster from last year. I could throw names out there like slayton or davis but it worries me. Granted he was awesome in every game he has played for us but Call me a Texans fan ... I'm not 100% confident he will get it done this year. We seem to be a hatching ground for one yr wonder Hb's and as big as I am on the guy I think he will still need all the help we can give him which means he needs a REAL FB..

Rey
07-29-2011, 03:44 AM
Don't forget that Casey has been hurt in each of his two NFL seasons.
Vonta is durable as HELL.

No brainer if you ask me.

That's a good point.

I could see the texans keeping a guy on the practice squad (in case james got hurt) to play fb though.

Im still neutral on resigning leach if he is asking for crazy money. Quite a few reasons to keep him, quite a few for letting him walk.

Rey
07-29-2011, 03:49 AM
Honestly I know I might catch flack for this but I am worried that this foster won't be the same foster from last year. I could throw names out there like slayton or davis but it worries me. Granted he was awesome in every game he has played for us but Call me a Texans fan ... I'm not 100% confident he will get it done this year. We seem to be a hatching ground for one yr wonder Hb's and as big as I am on the guy I think he will still need all the help we can give him which means he needs a REAL FB..

Foster is good.

He has what slaton never had and that is vision.

He has a great feel for the game, easily makes defenders miss without losing much acceleration.

Slaton just got the ball and ran. If he was lucky enough to get into a seem he could make a gain out of it.

I didn't even like slaton coming out of college but I though he could be used as an "in space" guy.

Foster is 10x the rb that slaton is.

80tothezone
07-29-2011, 03:58 AM
Foster is good.

He has what slaton never had and that is vision.

He has a great feel for the game, easily makes defenders miss without losing much acceleration.

Slaton just got the ball and ran. If he was lucky enough to get into a seem he could make a gain out of it.

I didn't even like slaton coming out of college but I though he could be used as an "in space" guy.

Foster is 10x the rb that slaton is.

I understand all that he is right now my second favorite player in the league, but if you take a HB's FB away you are asking for trouble. And a multi purpose guy is NOT a FB . If we don't resign leach then we need to get a real FB. Casey is not that, he is great to keep in ur pocket but for hammering LB's u NEED a hammer , a multi tool won't get it done....
All that said if we don't sign leach and go with casey I hope I am wrong..
P.s. I say worried but it is more like a nagging feeling in the back of my head based on our history as a team. not on Foster as an player.

Rey
07-29-2011, 04:07 AM
I understand all that he is right now my second favorite player in the league, but if you take a HB's FB away you are asking for trouble. And a multi purpose guy is NOT a FB . If we don't resign leach then we need to get a real FB. Casey is not that, he is great to keep in ur pocket but for hammering LB's u NEED a hammer , a multi tool won't get it done....
All that said if we don't sign leach and go with casey I hope I am wrong..
P.s. I say worried but it is more like a nagging feeling in the back of my head based on our history as a team. not on Foster as an player.

Teams that are consistently good lose top players all the time.

What they do is plug in the new guy and play to their strengths. They don't ask that new guy to be the old guy.

They teach them how to be effective using their skill set.

Whether or not our coaching staff can do that is debatable. But I have no doubt in my mind that Casey could be an effective fb.

Can he do what vonta did? No.

But he can do what he does, foster can still do what he does and I think it could work. Jmo though.

BIG TORO
07-29-2011, 08:39 AM
Any updates!

Texas T
07-29-2011, 08:39 AM
Any updates!

I was just wondering the same thing...quiet right now from what I can tell.

BIG TORO
07-29-2011, 08:42 AM
I was just wondering the same thing...quiet right now from what I can tell.

If we can keep him I will be completly satisfied!

aussie_texan
07-29-2011, 08:49 AM
yeah i think we're pretty much done for now. next step is to re-sign vonta and a few backups (anderson etc), a new punter, some d-line and LB depth and sign our draft picks

pirbroke
07-29-2011, 09:10 AM
I have been hearing people say Vonta is in only 30 to 35 percent of plays, but what percent is he in on goal line plays when we need that tough 1 yard or 3rd and 1. I think his value jumps up on those very important situations that are key to any game. We need him.

El Tejano
07-29-2011, 11:05 AM
Man if Leonard Weaver wasn't out for the season last year, I'd throw up a peace sign to Vonta. Weaver is much more capable as a FB to even get some carries for himself and he's coming from a WCO.

CloakNNNdagger
07-29-2011, 11:46 AM
All-Pro fullback Vonta Leach plans to take his time negotiating his new deal
(http://fayobserver.com/articles/2011/07/28/1111385?sac=Sports)

Ralph Vitolo wants to make Vonta Leach the highest paid fullback in the National Football League.

Efforts to achieve that goal began soon after 10 a.m. Tuesday by Vitolo, the Fayetteville agent who represents the Rowland native. That was the first time in four months negotiations between teams and free-agent players could take place due to the NFL lockout.

"We're going to take our time. We have to. This could be his last deal,'' Vitolo said Wednesday. "I'm hell bent on getting him a higher contract than Leonard Weaver. We won't settle for a whole lot less, unless it's all guaranteed money.''

Weaver is the fullback for the Philadelphia Eagles. He signed a three-year, $11 million deal during the 2010 offseason.

Leach, 29, capped his seventh NFL season by earning All-Pro honors with the Houston Texans in 2010. But his four-year, $8 million deal with the Texans ended when the season concluded.

Vitolo said Houston will get the first shot at re-signing Leach, but he expects serious interest from other teams as well.

"I called Houston yesterday to work with them first,'' he said. "But it was just a conversation. We exchanged a few numbers and I'm waiting to hear back.

"I really haven't talked to any others yet, but any team with a two-back set would be ones we'd look at like Denver, the (New York) Giants or the Dallases of the world.''

The 6-foot, 255-pound Leach rarely runs the ball, but has become known as one of the NFL's most physical blocking fullbacks. He helped pave the way last season for Arian Foster to lead the NFL in rushing.

Leach also emerged as a receiving threat after joining the Texans in 2006.

Former Baltimore Ravens coach Brian Billich ranked Leach the seventh-best free-agent running back available in a list he compiled recently for Fox Sports. Leach was the only fullback on the list.

The 1999 Cape Fear region Player of the Year at South Robeson High School, Leach went on to play collegiately at East Carolina. He was signed by the Green Bay Packers as an undrafted free agent in 2004. Leach spent 2 1/2seasons with the Packers and a half year with the New Orleans Saints before signing with the Texans in 2006.

"This isn't going to be a rush job,'' Vitolo said. "There will be too many suitors, too much interest and too much value to not take our time.''

Leach is remaining at his home in Lumberton while the negotiations take place, according to Vitolo.

jaayteetx
07-29-2011, 11:51 AM
All-Pro fullback Vonta Leach plans to take his time negotiating his new deal
(http://fayobserver.com/articles/2011/07/28/1111385?sac=Sports)

I'm shocked!!! Leach lives in Lumberton? Why?

whiskeyrbl
07-29-2011, 11:51 AM
From the stats I've seen Foster got the majority of his yards while working out of a single back set and when Leach was on the sideline and off the field, but it was by a slim margin. It's still just a stat though and doesn't take into account the down and distance where we ran Foster behind Leach. I still think we should retain Vonta, but it does show that Leach wasn't the end all be all to Foster's success last season.

Yeah they were talking on 610 yesterday saying VL was on the field roughly 50% of the time for Adrians runs. Don't get me wrong I want Vontae back but if the price is to steep and we can add a better player at another position I say let Casey and the rookie we signed battle it out.

CloakNNNdagger
07-29-2011, 01:12 PM
Five teams on the trail of Vonta Leach (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/29/five-teams-on-the-trail-of-vonta-leach/)


Though the Texans are trying to shore up a defense that was almost bad enough to get everyone fired in 2010, they’ve got a fairly important guy on offense whom they would like to keep.

Fullback Vonta Leach.

They’re trying to re-sign the free agent, but other teams are involved. According to Mark Berman of FOX 26 in Houston, the Cowboys, Ravens, Broncos, and Giants are in the mix, too.

Leach’s agent, Ralph Vitolo, would name no team beyond the Texans. “There are multiple teams expressing interest in Vonta,” Vitolo told Berman. “We are still hopeful Vonta can return to the Texans, if at all possible.”

The seven-year veteran was a first-time Pro Bowler and a first-time All Pro in 2010, thanks to his efforts to pave the way for tailback Arian Foster, the NFL rushing champion last season.

Dutchrudder
07-29-2011, 01:13 PM
The Broncos should be out of it now:

NFLDraftInsider Jared
If you haven't heard, the Broncos have agreed to a deal with RB Willis Magahee. Good move. Moreno and Magahee a good 1-2 punch.

CloakNNNdagger
07-29-2011, 01:17 PM
THE COWBOYS????????:hairpull:

DX-TEX
07-29-2011, 01:23 PM
Vonta with the Giants backfield. Scary damn thought.

False Start
07-29-2011, 01:23 PM
I think hes a goner.... :(

Dutchrudder
07-29-2011, 01:39 PM
The Giants would make sense, being that they drafted him and all. But I don't know if they have the money to spend right now given that their priority is signing Ahmad Bradshaw.

The Cowboys are supposedly already over the cap, but need to move money around to make a deal for Nnamdi. If that falls through, which is likely, they could go after guys like Leach, Cromartie and Carr.

The Ravens still have Leron McClain, so I don't know why they would want Leach. Maybe an upgrade, but I'm not sure if they can release Leron.

The Pencil Neck
07-29-2011, 01:54 PM
The Ravens still have Leron McClain, so I don't know why they would want Leach. Maybe an upgrade, but I'm not sure if they can release Leron.

Le'ron is an FA, too.

BIG TORO
07-29-2011, 02:03 PM
Sounds expensive now!

ChampionTexan
07-29-2011, 02:12 PM
CBSSportsNFL Eye on Football
by StephStradley
RT @MikeGarafolo: That report about Giants being in the hunt for Vonta Leach - don't buy it. As I said earlier, little interest being shown.

Section516
07-29-2011, 03:18 PM
Is this the Vonta watch thread?

Texans and Four Other Teams in the Hunt For Vonta

Read more: http://www.myfoxhouston.com/dpp/sports/nfl/110729-texans-and-four-other-teams-in-the-hunt-for-vonta#ixzz1TWkh3Zjy


League sources told FOX 26 the other teams involved with Leach are the Dallas Cowboys, Baltimore Ravens, Denver Broncos and New York Giants.

Maddict5
07-29-2011, 05:02 PM
ha clear agent ploy imo.. 'several teams' but wants the texans.. screams of it

Wolf6151
07-29-2011, 05:07 PM
Is this the Vonta watch thread?

Texans and Four Other Teams in the Hunt For Vonta

Read more: http://www.myfoxhouston.com/dpp/sports/nfl/110729-texans-and-four-other-teams-in-the-hunt-for-vonta#ixzz1TWkh3Zjy


League sources told FOX 26 the other teams involved with Leach are the Dallas Cowboys, Baltimore Ravens, Denver Broncos and New York Giants.

I'll bet their source was Vonta's agent. Tactics by the agent to stir interest from teams.

cland
07-29-2011, 07:29 PM
I'll bet their source was Vonta's agent. Tactics by the agent to stir interest from teams.

This is exactly what I think is going on, it's what happens when agents promise their clients money on an unsupported claim. Vonta probably called him and said 'Hey, where are all these offers you promised me?"

My guess at the situation is that Kubiak called him up and basically said "I want you back on the team and here's what we think is a fair contract value. If you want to explore the market and see if someone will pay you more, we would love the opportunity to match so just let us know."

My guess, based on internet and twitter searching, is that no team has pulled up a Brink's truck, and maybe Ralph Vitolo has called a few teams saying:

"Hey Vonta Leach is a FA and he's the best FB ever!!!!"
"How much"
"Only six million a year"
*click*
"Umm hello?"
"Oh shit! Vonta's going to kill me!"

He's now on to plan B. convince the Texans that there are lots of secret teams making secret offers....and if he was competent he would have included the Redskins.

I read somewhere that the Giants had no interest at that price, despite the PFT post.

My guess is that it will take a little while, but that after Vonta smacks his agent around a little bit, he'll call the Texans back and accept. I love what Vonta does, but the truth is that a zone-offense blocking FB is not all that marketable.

DX-TEX
07-29-2011, 07:35 PM
As much as I love Vonta I would rather have Kuhn from Green bay.

Rey
07-29-2011, 07:39 PM
Nobody wants to pay that much for an older fb, that is constantly in violent collisions and really is only good for one purpose.

We don't even give him the ball in short yardage situations.

Vonta, get off of it. Sign the contract we are offering and join your teammates.

valleytexfan
07-29-2011, 07:41 PM
Nobody wants to pay that much for an older fb, that is constantly in violent collisions and really is only good for one purpose.

We don't even give him the ball in short yardage situations.

Vonta, get off of it. Sign the contract we are offering and join your teammates.

Bang! Repped.

hradhak
07-29-2011, 09:11 PM
I'd like Vonta back. But if that money is available to spend on a WR, I'd rather add a WR. Vonta's a good player, probably the top 3 at his position. He's like defensive meat tenderizer, softening up the defense all game. At the end of the day though, he's not an integral part of many offenses in the league and that should put his value down somewhere below the asking price.

El Tejano
07-29-2011, 09:19 PM
If Leonard Weaver didn't get hurt last year, we probably aren't having this conversation.

80tothezone
07-29-2011, 11:35 PM
That's a good point.

I could see the texans keeping a guy on the practice squad (in case james got hurt) to play fb though.

Im still neutral on resigning leach if he is asking for crazy money. Quite a few reasons to keep him, quite a few for letting him walk.

I really don't see the reason for letting him go, yeh he is asking for a lot of money but with us not signing nmandielqrst and going with jo-jo instead I think we should have the money. So why even take the chance that I am right and that a FB can make or break even a talented HB. Trade him next yr if you need to free up the cap. But dude can catch dude can block, he can even run on occasion. We got a real shot with this team not just to make the playoffs but to really finally do something once we get there (oilers). The O rocked last year don't mess with it.

TexansBull
07-30-2011, 09:20 AM
Does anyone have an update on Vonta?

According to battleredblog.com this morning he is being courted by the Ravens, Broncos, Giants, Cowboys, and us.

Maybe there will be a decision today.

CloakNNNdagger
07-30-2011, 10:00 AM
Does anyone have an update on Vonta?

According to battleredblog.com this morning he is being courted by the Ravens, Broncos, Giants, Cowboys, and us.

Maybe there will be a decision today.

This has been floating around for the last 24 hours. But there is no info about how serious any of the other teams are further than simply inquiries.

Ole Miss Texan
07-30-2011, 08:33 PM
A person close to me said he saw him last night at a restaurant. Said "he looked very very happy, was smiling a lot and looked like he was celebrating something. Was with wife/gf and others."

Wouldnt be surprised if we hear something on this front soon. Could be texans, another team, or that maybe he has received some offers he really likes. Take it for what it's worth...

wildroot
07-30-2011, 08:50 PM
The Ravens still have Leron McClain, so I don't know why they would want Leach. Maybe an upgrade, but I'm not sure if they can release Leron.

I thought McClain was an unsigned FA?

BigBull17
07-30-2011, 09:36 PM
I really don't see the reason for letting him go, yeh he is asking for a lot of money but with us not signing nmandielqrst and going with jo-jo instead I think we should have the money. So why even take the chance that I am right and that a FB can make or break even a talented HB. Trade him next yr if you need to free up the cap. But dude can catch dude can block, he can even run on occasion. We got a real shot with this team not just to make the playoffs but to really finally do something once we get there (oilers). The O rocked last year don't mess with it.

I love Leech, but you can never spend 6 mil a year on a fb. Especially one that blocks, catches 2 passes a game MAYBE, and isn't a run threat. Impossible. Would rather chase down another DB.

Lucky
07-30-2011, 09:47 PM
I love Leech, but you can never spend 6 mil a year on a fb.
No team will give Leach that. Maybe a $6 million bonus. Hopefully, the Texans have saved enough with the recent cuts to re-sign Leach to a fair contract for both sides.

ObsiWan
07-30-2011, 10:16 PM
Where did you guys hear Leach was asking for $6 mil/yr??
The current highest paid FB is under contract with the Eagles - $11 mill over 3 yrs and only 6.5 of that is guaranteed. At the risk of repeating myself, I say pay him 4-4.5 per for 3-4 yrs. That's not break-the-bank money for a hard-nosed pro bowler who paves the way for Foster and helps keep Schaub upright.

Anyone else notice it's Philly again doing what it takes to keep quality on their team.

BigBull17
07-30-2011, 10:19 PM
Where did you guys hear Leach was asking for $6 mil/yr??
The current highest paid FB is under contract with the Eagles - $11 mill over 3 yrs and only 6.5 of that is guaranteed. At the risk of repeating myself, I say pay him 4-4.5 per for 3-4 yrs. That's not break-the-bank money for a hard-nosed pro bowler who paves the way for Foster and helps keep Schaub upright.

Anyone else notice it's Philly again doing what it takes to keep quality on their team.

4-5 a year is alot of cash for a fb. I would seriously rather spend that on CB number two.

wildroot
07-30-2011, 10:19 PM
Anyone else notice it's Philly again doing what it takes to keep quality on their team.

Their fans demand it.

80tothezone
07-30-2011, 10:47 PM
I love Leech, but you can never spend 6 mil a year on a fb. Especially one that blocks, catches 2 passes a game MAYBE, and isn't a run threat. Impossible. Would rather chase down another DB.

I heard he was askin for 3 if he askin for six then I take back what I said

DocBar
07-30-2011, 10:48 PM
$6 mil for a fb...

texasguy346
07-30-2011, 10:50 PM
Where did you guys hear Leach was asking for $6 mil/yr??
The current highest paid FB is under contract with the Eagles - $11 mill over 3 yrs and only 6.5 of that is guaranteed. At the risk of repeating myself, I say pay him 4-4.5 per for 3-4 yrs. That's not break-the-bank money for a hard-nosed pro bowler who paves the way for Foster and helps keep Schaub upright.

Anyone else notice it's Philly again doing what it takes to keep quality on their team.

Are you talking about Weaver? I'm pretty sure he was cut by the Eagles earlier in the week.

TEXANRED
07-30-2011, 10:55 PM
$6 mil for a fb...

Leach is worth every penny.

He may not be the guy putting the point on the board but he is the guy opening the hole for the guy putting points on the board.

DocBar
07-30-2011, 10:57 PM
Leach is worth every penny.

He may not be the guy putting the point on the board but he is the guy opening the hole for the guy putting points on the board.Your GSA he's worth $6 mil. I'll go for $3-$3.5 mil of Bob's money but more than that, take a hike.

ObsiWan
07-31-2011, 04:26 AM
Are you talking about Weaver? I'm pretty sure he was cut by the Eagles earlier in the week.

I can't find an article confirming that anywhere. Not sayin' it ain't true, I just haven't seen it in writing anyplace.

However, I did find this
http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/inq-eagles/Weaver_deal_done.html

Last year they made Weaver the highest paid FB in the game. And for about 3-3.5 mil per

And Leach is worth that IMHO.

man, folks are always going on about how cheap McNair is. It ain't uncle Bob who's cheap, it's his fanbase.

Wolf6151
07-31-2011, 05:06 AM
Weaver was cut by Philly a few days ago so the benchmark of a high salary for a FB is now gone. I want Vonta back on the team but at a reasonable salary.