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El Tejano
07-25-2011, 07:04 PM
I'm hoping at 10 am tomorrow we got all our drafted players taken care of. I'm also hoping we can find another Arian Foster type undrafted FA (I know it's rare and unlikely-just go along).

Does anyone have a list of UDFA that are available or that they like?

Section516
07-25-2011, 07:05 PM
K/P...Henry or something? I remember really really wanting him in March..

XI CMURDER IX
07-25-2011, 07:14 PM
K/P...Henry or something? I remember really really wanting him in March..

I want him too. We need to get a little competition for Turk!

El Tejano
07-25-2011, 07:14 PM
K/P...Henry or something? I remember really really wanting him in March..

Is that the punter from Florida St. because I know the kicker from Nebraska is awesome but he got drafted.

J_R
07-25-2011, 07:50 PM
AdamSchefter (http://twitter.com/#!/AdamSchefter) Adam Schefter
John Clayton reports that NFL teams were granted the right to sign undrafted players Monday night. So dealings are underway.

Talking about Henry, Alex Henry out of Nebraska. I think he did get drafted.

mariowillshine15
07-25-2011, 08:20 PM
AdamSchefter (http://twitter.com/#!/AdamSchefter) Adam Schefter
John Clayton reports that NFL teams were granted the right to sign undrafted players Monday night. So dealings are underway.

Talking about Henry, Alex Henry out of Nebraska. I think he did get drafted.

4th round by Philly.

Allstar
07-25-2011, 08:57 PM
He's talking about Chas Henry, P Florida

m5kwatts
07-25-2011, 09:09 PM
Anyone looking for a link to a site updating constantly with all the undrafted free agent signings for all teams

http://www.nepatriotsdraft.com/2011-nfl-undrafted-free-agents

b0ng
07-25-2011, 09:09 PM
Herzlich is going to the Ravens apparently.

sad faces go here.

beerlover
07-25-2011, 09:15 PM
I don't see Deunta Williams on that list yet, he would be a great get http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/slides/photos/000/917/337/93287247_display_image.jpg?1304623379

Allstar
07-25-2011, 09:17 PM
http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/slides/photos/000/917/337/93287247_display_image.jpg?1304623379

"high five!"

badboy
07-25-2011, 09:22 PM
I don't see Deunta Williams on that list yet, he would be a great get http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/slides/photos/000/917/337/93287247_display_image.jpg?1304623379Amen, I remain high on this guy.

beerlover
07-25-2011, 09:31 PM
I would also take a shot with DT Cedric Thornton-Southern Arkansas @ 6'3, 299 lbs., 34 3/4” Arms, 10” Hands he is a worthy 3-4 5 technique talent to develop for the future.

oops just saw the Eagles got him.

NFLRoughDraft
07-25-2011, 09:34 PM
Here you go: http://www.nflroughdraft.com/node/145

Doppelganger
07-25-2011, 09:37 PM
Here you go: http://www.nflroughdraft.com/node/145

Dang. I was hoping for Ian Williams.

m5kwatts
07-25-2011, 09:37 PM
Fail

Try this one:

http://www.nepatriotsdraft.com/2011-nfl-undrafted-free-agents

beerlover
07-25-2011, 09:38 PM
Mario Harvey is still available he would fortify the middle @ ILB. His idol is Rey Lewis & he plays like it on the field. http://www.herald-dispatch.com/archive/x983709919/g276258000000000000ad26c4b4ceabf0975393d2a3317280b 4e1633f48.jpg

Doppelganger
07-25-2011, 09:42 PM
I don't see Deunta Williams on that list yet, he would be a great get http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/slides/photos/000/917/337/93287247_display_image.jpg?1304623379

Why again did he not get drafted. Had to have been a major red flag. I had him as a third round grade.

badboy
07-25-2011, 09:43 PM
Mario Harvey is still available he would fortify the middle @ ILB. His idol is Rey Lewis & he plays like it on the field. http://www.herald-dispatch.com/archive/x983709919/g276258000000000000ad26c4b4ceabf0975393d2a3317280b 4e1633f48.jpghttp://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=77863&draftyear=2011&genpos=ILB


I suggest evryone read this link on Harvey and his 40 speed at his pro day. Good call Beerlover!

Doppelganger
07-25-2011, 09:44 PM
Fail

Try this one:

http://www.nepatriotsdraft.com/2011-nfl-undrafted-free-agents

If I told you there were three teams that apparently had not signed any of the undrafted FAs, how many guesses would you need to name Htown?

:toropalm:

Doppelganger
07-25-2011, 09:45 PM
I would also take a shot with DT Cedric Thornton-Southern Arkansas @ 6'3, 299 lbs., 34 3/4” Arms, 10” Hands he is a worthy 3-4 5 technique talent to develop for the future.

oops just saw the Eagles got him.

Would have been a nice developmental prospect.

badboy
07-25-2011, 09:45 PM
Why again did he not get drafted. Had to have been a major red flag. I had him as a third round grade.He and several other at North Caroliona were suspended for selling college stuff for cash. He was suspended an entire year if I remember correctly. Others only missed a few games.
His 2009 years was awesome with several INTs at free safety

Dutchrudder
07-25-2011, 09:46 PM
Steven Friday would be a nice pickup for LB depth.

Doppelganger
07-25-2011, 09:48 PM
Steven Friday would be a nice pickup for LB depth.

Good OLB depth. I would take him.

DexmanC
07-25-2011, 09:49 PM
If I told you there were three teams that apparently had not signed any of the undrafted FAs, how many guesses would you need to name Htown?

:toropalm:

....savin' all that money up for Nnamdi (yeah, right.)

badboy
07-25-2011, 09:52 PM
He and several other at North Caroliona were suspended for selling college stuff for cash. He was suspended an entire year if I remember correctly. Others only missed a few games.
His 2009 years was awesome with several INTs at free safetyCorrection, my memory was bothering me so I researched. He missed 4 games suspension and then broke leg last career game. he has had surgery.
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1117403

Pretty good info.

gary
07-25-2011, 09:52 PM
Steven Friday would be a nice pickup for LB depth.Sign him on Friday.

Doppelganger
07-25-2011, 09:54 PM
....savin' all that money up for Nnamdi (yeah, right.)

Uncle Bob needs to light up his cigars with hundreds you know!

Allstar
07-25-2011, 09:57 PM
http://twitter.com/OneWestSports

The Houston Texans and One West Sports Agency client Justin "Bubba" Bartlett have agreed to a deal. Bubba reports to Houston tomorrow. about 1 hour ago via web

He is a fullback......

NitroGSXR
07-25-2011, 09:58 PM
If I told you there were three teams that apparently had not signed any of the undrafted FAs, how many guesses would you need to name Htown?

:toropalm:

You ignorant.
--Arian Foster

thunderkyss
07-25-2011, 09:58 PM
If I told you there were three teams that apparently had not signed any of the undrafted FAs, how many guesses would you need to name Htown?

:toropalm:

We've got a Tight-End...... woo-hoo
Texans
Bubba Bartlett (TE/FB, Carroll College)

:fans:

BigBull17
07-25-2011, 09:59 PM
http://twitter.com/OneWestSports


He is a fullback......

TE/ FB. Shocker that's our first signing

keyser
07-25-2011, 09:59 PM
The NE one says we've signed:

Bubba Bartlett (TE/FB, Carroll College)

Because, you know, we didn't draft a TE...


Actually, though, I think this is a sign that Leach is gone.

Nawzer
07-25-2011, 09:59 PM
Hey the Texans signed Bubba Bartlett out of Carroll College. Guess what position he plays? TE. Lol. But it shows that he also plays fullback. I have no idea who this guy is. The info can be found in the link m5kwatts provided.

beerlover
07-25-2011, 09:59 PM
He and several other at North Caroliona were suspended for selling college stuff for cash. He was suspended an entire year if I remember correctly. Others only missed a few games.
His 2009 years was awesome with several INTs at free safety

I know he missed the first four games as a result of that school's widespread agent scandal. Then when he returned North Carolina vaunted defense was never the same because some of the others were dismissed for the season, yet Marvin Austin was still drafted in the 2nd rd. meaning those where not concerns that scared teams away from drafting Williams it was in fact his broken leg sustained in the Music City Bowl that required surgery, thus prevented him from working out for teams & hurt his stock immeasurably.

I think the Texans have a need @ Safety that warrants the risk of a full recovery. That of course weighs heavily on team doctors for approval our own Cloak would know better than me, but I say give the kid a chance :specnatz:

gary
07-25-2011, 10:00 PM
http://twitter.com/OneWestSports


He is a fullback......Bye to Leach?

JCTexan
07-25-2011, 10:00 PM
If I told you there were three teams that apparently had not signed any of the undrafted FAs, how many guesses would you need to name Htown?

:toropalm:

The three teams you mentioned are San Diego, Oakland & Tennessee, right?

Texans
Bubba Bartlett (TE/FB, Carroll College)

Any info on this guy?

beerlover
07-25-2011, 10:02 PM
TE/ FB. Shocker that's our first signing

not really, means they don't expect to resign Vonta Leach. Going to miss you big guy :hankpalm:

mariowillshine15
07-25-2011, 10:02 PM
Really like signing Jeff Maehl. Underrated player.

b0ng
07-25-2011, 10:02 PM
Bye to Leach?

Doubtful, they are probably signing him as a camp body.

EDIT:

Oregon WR Jeff Maehl to the Texans?

Nawzer
07-25-2011, 10:05 PM
Any info on this guy?

Take it for what it's worth:

http://www.seahawks.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=31478

beerlover
07-25-2011, 10:06 PM
reported Jeff Maehl, Oregon Ducks. I had mocked him to Texans @ one point or another. Very smart, good hands, willing blocker & good nose for the ball.

keyser
07-25-2011, 10:08 PM
Looks like we also got Jeff Maehl, WR from Oregon (http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=70746&draftyear=2011&genpos=).

Doppelganger
07-25-2011, 10:11 PM
reported Jeff Maehl, Oregon Ducks. I had mocked him to Texans @ one point or another. Very smart, good hands, willing blocker & good nose for the ball.

Has the potential to be a solid number 2 but needs some time to develop.

GP
07-25-2011, 10:13 PM
Has the potential to be a solid number 2 but needs some time to develop.

Hey, re-read your post, dopp.

LOL!

Yes, a solid #2 DOES need time to develop. I agree.

mariowillshine15
07-25-2011, 10:14 PM
Has the potential to be a solid number 2 but needs some time to develop.

I think he could be a really good slot WR right away.

In that high octane Oregon offense he was their go to guy and he always delivered.

National Title game - 9 catches 133 yards.

beerlover
07-25-2011, 10:18 PM
like a said he's got good hands & always finds the seam. He fits this offense & sitting down in holes against zones or running precise timing routes. He will have to learn how to avoid big hits, because in College he really exposed his body & he is slight of build.

devo-x
07-25-2011, 10:19 PM
What Punters should the Texans look for? It's unlikely Matt Turk returns this year

Allstar
07-25-2011, 10:20 PM
Everyone on the twitter wire seems to like this Maehl guy.

beerlover
07-25-2011, 10:22 PM
Zac Pauga (FB, Colorado State) another FB & CSU player, where have we seen this before?

Colorado State fullback Zac Pauga might not get drafted because there aren’t many at his position that do, but NFL teams are certainly taking notice of him.

Pauga made an official pre-draft visit to the Arizona Cardinals and had a workout for the Denver Broncos. The Houston Texans have also expressed interest in him.

Pauga is a durable performer who played in 49 consecutive games for the Rams in his college career. The 6-1, 246-pounder is considered a strong receiver out of the backfield.

It’s difficult for fullbacks to get drafted. The tricky position undrafted free agents will be in this year is because of the lockout they will not be permitted to sign with teams immediately following the draft as they typically are.

keyser
07-25-2011, 10:22 PM
And now we get our Colorado State player (who I actually, truly, thought we would draft):
Zac Pauga (FB, Colorado State)

TEXANRED
07-25-2011, 10:27 PM
What Punters should the Texans look for? It's unlikely Matt Turk returns this year

I could punt like Turk for a fraction of the price.

Rey
07-25-2011, 10:37 PM
not really, means they don't expect to resign Vonta Leach. Going to miss you big guy :hankpalm:

I agree. Looks like they are getting some comp for Casey.

beerlover
07-25-2011, 10:37 PM
Pete Hendrickson (OT, Tulane) completely off even my radar.

6-foot-7 3/8, 304 pounds ??? He ran the 40-yard dash in 5.04 seconds with the wind and 5.14 against it, 4.62 in the short shuttle and 7.28 in the 3-cone drill. He also had a 32-inch vertical jump, a 9-4 broad jump and did 25 bench-press repetitions at 225 pounds. - Gil Brandt, NFL.com

Maybe Butler is gone too?

J_R
07-25-2011, 10:39 PM
4 guys so far I believe: Bartlett, Pauga, Maehl(WR,Oregon), Pete Hendrickson(6'8 OT/Tulane)

TheMatrix31
07-25-2011, 10:41 PM
Pete Hendrickson (OT, Tulane) completely off even my radar.



Maybe Butler is gone too?


Butler is definitely gone.

El Tejano
07-25-2011, 10:42 PM
Doubtful, they are probably signing him as a camp body.

EDIT:

Oregon WR Jeff Maehl to the Texans?

Gotta be prepared if Leach bolts. I agree.

beerlover
07-25-2011, 10:48 PM
Has anyone else noticed that the Texans really focus on need over BPA or am I just imagining a reoccurring nightmare? these are clearly all needs bypassed during the draft because then focus was to fill defensivel holes. Bet your bottom dollar Texans are opening up some spending room to chase after one of the premier free agent CB's.

XI CMURDER IX
07-25-2011, 10:53 PM
Kirkpatrick(TCU center last year) told me that the Texans contacted him earlier, too. Just throwing that out there, for whatever it is worth. I am starting to try to contact all the players I know that went un-drafted and ask them what is happening around the NFL right now! I will let you know anything else I hear. I make a lot of contacts by doing what I do.

beerlover
07-25-2011, 10:55 PM
Kirkpatrick(TCU center last year) told me that the Texans contacted him earlier, too. Just throwing that out there, for whatever it is worth. I am starting to try to contact all the players I know that went un-drafted and ask them what is happening around the NFL right now! I will let you know anything else I hear. I make a lot of contacts by doing what I do.

he was signed by the Colts

XI CMURDER IX
07-25-2011, 10:56 PM
he was signed by the Colts

I know, the Texans contacted him after he was signed by the Colts... Also contacted by New England and Miami. Texans got to him too late.

J_R
07-25-2011, 10:57 PM
FAU WR Lestar Jean

Brisco_County
07-25-2011, 10:57 PM
Well, this means Leach is gone. The two fullbacks (maybe three with Casey) will be competing in camp for that job.

A WR could mean we're losing Jacoby, but it could also means we just have another back-up WR.

We got an OT, and Butler will be gone.

mariowillshine15
07-25-2011, 10:59 PM
Well, this means Leach is gone. The two fullbacks (maybe three with Casey) will be competing in camp for that job.

A WR could mean we're losing Jacoby, but it could also means we just have another back-up WR.

We got an OT, and Butler will be gone.

I wouldn't assume anything based off undrafted free agent signings.

It might just be insurance in case a deal cannot be reached with Leach.

beerlover
07-25-2011, 11:03 PM
FAU WR Lestar Jean

Big WR 6030 with higher trending numbers. He must have impressed Wade in the Shrine game?

XI CMURDER IX
07-25-2011, 11:06 PM
Jerrod Johnson is someone to look out for in the next few hours, too. His latest tweet drops a hint that he might be signed already. Trying to contact a friend who graduated with him last year.

beerlover
07-25-2011, 11:06 PM
I wouldn't assume anything based off undrafted free agent signings.

It might just be insurance in case a deal cannot be reached with Leach.

stocking up a position with a high cost free agent on the line means Texans will have fierce competition in camp to fill those voids.

keyser
07-25-2011, 11:07 PM
I know, the Texans contacted him after he was signed by the Colts... Also contacted by New England and Miami. Texans got to him too late.

Am I missing something, or are these guys just signing with the first team to come along? Do teams give these guys a 5 minute window to decide or something? Otherwise, I would think that players might wait 1/2 an hour and see what comes in or something. I know they aren't in a position to wait around and look at all offers that might come in, but for someone to sign with one team, and then have more come along and want to sign him, tells me that they might be jumping too quickly.

XI CMURDER IX
07-25-2011, 11:10 PM
Am I missing something, or are these guys just signing with the first team to come along? Do teams give these guys a 5 minute window to decide or something? Otherwise, I would think that players might wait 1/2 an hour and see what comes in or something. I know they aren't in a position to wait around and look at all offers that might come in, but for someone to sign with one team, and then have more come along and want to sign him, tells me that they might be jumping too quickly.

I think the big deciding factor with him is that he has always admired Peyton Manning. So I can see where he would sign with the Colts. Learning from Jeff Saturday might be a good deal for him also. I can't speak for him though.

CloakNNNdagger
07-25-2011, 11:11 PM
[QUOTE=beerlover;1730343]I know he missed the first four games as a result of that school's widespread agent scandal. Then when he returned North Carolina vaunted defense was never the same because some of the others were dismissed for the season, yet Marvin Austin was still drafted in the 2nd rd. meaning those where not concerns that scared teams away from drafting Williams it was in fact his broken leg sustained in the Music City Bowl that required surgery, thus prevented him from working out for teams & hurt his stock immeasurably.

I think the Texans have a need @ Safety that warrants the risk of a full recovery. That of course weighs heavily on team doctors for approval our own Cloak would know better than me, but I say give the kid a chance :specnatz:

With a higher fibula fracture that does not involve the ankle, surgery is seldom indicated and healing occurs uneventfully in 6-8 weeks. Rehab thereafter goes quite quickly, since the fibula is a non weight-bearing bone, and is mostly limited by discomfort rather than function. However, a lower fibula fracture involving the lateral ankle, there is usually significant ligament damage. The "healing period" remains ~6-8 weeks. However, the rehab period is longer and less predictable, closer to 1 year for full recovery. The good news is unless the bone was terribly splintered, a full recovery is still possible.

His probable injury (fracture and accompanying ligament damage):

http://samimimd.com/images/foot/ankle-fractures.jpg

beerlover
07-25-2011, 11:13 PM
[QUOTE=beerlover;1730343]I know he missed the first four games as a result of that school's widespread agent scandal. Then when he returned North Carolina vaunted defense was never the same because some of the others were dismissed for the season, yet Marvin Austin was still drafted in the 2nd rd. meaning those where not concerns that scared teams away from drafting Williams it was in fact his broken leg sustained in the Music City Bowl that required surgery, thus prevented him from working out for teams & hurt his stock immeasurably.

I think the Texans have a need @ Safety that warrants the risk of a full recovery. That of course weighs heavily on team doctors for approval our own Cloak would know better than me, but I say give the kid a chance :specnatz:

With a higher fibula fracture that does not involve the ankle, surgery is seldom indicated and healing occurs uneventfully in 6-8 weeks. Rehab thereafter goes quite quickly, mostly limited by discomfort rather than function. However, a lower fibula fracture involving the lateral ankle, there is usually significant ligament damage. The "healing period" remains ~6-8 weeks. However, the rehab period is longer and less predictable, closer to 1 year for full recovery. The good news is unless the bone was terribly splintered, a full recovery is still possible.

His probably injury:

http://samimimd.com/images/foot/ankle-fractures.jpg

ouch, thanks for the evaluation.

keyser
07-25-2011, 11:15 PM
I think the big deciding factor with him is that he has always admired Peyton Manning. So I can see where he would sign with the Colts. Learning from Jeff Saturday might be a good deal for him also. I can't speak for him though.

Yeah - I can't blame someone for wanting to go to the Colts and work with Manning. It's just weird to me that people would sign before other teams even had a chance to contact them. I would assume that teams were contacting the players they were interested in within the first half hour or so. It's not as though they haven't had months to prepare for this time.

ArlingtonTexan
07-25-2011, 11:18 PM
Lots of funny going on with posters who should know better in this thread.

beerlover
07-25-2011, 11:18 PM
Does this sound about right to you? Texans biggest free agents are FB Vonta Leach, WR Jacoby Jones & OT Rashad Butler. So far in undrafted free agency they've signed 2 FB's, 2 WR's & 1 OT.

XI CMURDER IX
07-25-2011, 11:18 PM
Yeah - I can't blame someone for wanting to go to the Colts and work with Manning. It's just weird to me that people would sign before other teams even had a chance to contact them. I would assume that teams were contacting the players they were interested in within the first half hour or so. It's not as though they haven't had months to prepare for this time.

I agree, it seems kind of odd that the players are signing very quickly with teams. I guess they all have their reasons though.

XI CMURDER IX
07-25-2011, 11:20 PM
Does this sound about right to you? Texans biggest free agents are FB Vonta Leach, WR Jacoby Jones & OT Rashad Butler. So far in undrafted free agency they've signed 2 FB's, 2 WR's & 1 OT.


http://houston.sbnation.com/2011/7/25/2292808/nfl-lockout-ends-players-unanimously-approve-deal

Don't know if you have seen this or not. Read later on down the article, Rashad Butler will not be returning.

CloakNNNdagger
07-25-2011, 11:35 PM
Pete Hendrickson (OT, Tulane) completely off even my radar.



Maybe Butler is gone too?

Alex Khvatov: What are your strengths on the football field?

Pete Hendrickson: I am a great run blocker, and I have a great anchor against the bull rush in the pass game.



Alex Khvatov: What areas of your game do you still need to improve upon?

Pete Hendrickson: I have been beat a few times by speed rushers who time the snap count and get a great jump. I need to do a better job of anticipating the snap count myself and getting off the ball faster.

The rest of his interview. LINK (http://www.nfldraftblitz.com/petehendricksoninterview.html)

aussie_texan
07-25-2011, 11:35 PM
does anyone else find it interesting that we have only made signings on the offensive side of the ball?? i guess its early still though

BigBull17
07-25-2011, 11:44 PM
Yeah - I can't blame someone for wanting to go to the Colts and work with Manning. It's just weird to me that people would sign before other teams even had a chance to contact them. I would assume that teams were contacting the players they were interested in within the first half hour or so. It's not as though they haven't had months to prepare for this time.

It's always been a dream of mine to be blamed for a loss by Peyton Manning.

keyser
07-25-2011, 11:44 PM
does anyone else find it interesting that we have only made signings on the offensive side of the ball?? i guess its early still though

Not too surprising. Considering they went heavy on defense during the draft, it is the offense that basically hasn't been addressed. I'd be surprised if they don't pick up at least one more OL. I'm not clear on how near the maximum camp roster they are, now...

aussie_texan
07-25-2011, 11:47 PM
Not too surprising. Considering they went heavy on defense during the draft, it is the offense that basically hasn't been addressed. I'd be surprised if they don't pick up at least one more OL. I'm not clear on how near the maximum camp roster they are, now...

i think for now you can have up to 90 players on your roster obviously that gets cut down pretty quickly

Dutchrudder
07-25-2011, 11:48 PM
We signed 2 FB free agents last year to compete in camp, neither of which made the 53 man roster. This isn't a sign of anything yet.

ArlingtonTexan
07-25-2011, 11:53 PM
Not too surprising. Considering they went heavy on defense during the draft, it is the offense that basically hasn't been addressed. I'd be surprised if they don't pick up at least one more OL. I'm not clear on how near the maximum camp roster they are, now...

With the limit going up from 80 to 90, I am expecting most positions to be signed. I think that offense and so-called need things are more happenstance than anything to read into. Once the entire and official list is released and its overloaded at position, I will take notice.

aussie_texan
07-25-2011, 11:56 PM
FYI giants signed a 255pound FB

keyser
07-26-2011, 12:11 AM
Looks like we might have signed a third WR - Terrence Toliver from LSU.

The WRs we've signed are actually an awfully strong set of WRs, for UDFAs. All three were in the "top 7" undrafted WRs on my list. Not that any will necessarily make the team, but we couldn't do much better than this if we were targeting WR.

Lucky
07-26-2011, 12:12 AM
Some signings that piqued my interest (from nepatriotsdraft.com (http://www.nepatriotsdraft.com/2011-nfl-undrafted-free-agents)):

Mario Harvey - MLB - Marshall (Bills)
Joe Lefeged - SS- Rutgers (Colts)
Noel Devine - RB - West Virginia (Falcons)
Ian Williams - NT - Notre Dame (Niners)
Jeron Johnson -SS - Boise State (Seahawks)

Edit: Terrance Tolliver - WR - LSU to Texans

SteveSlaton20
07-26-2011, 12:17 AM
Some signings that piqued my interest (from nepatriotsdraft.com (http://www.nepatriotsdraft.com/2011-nfl-undrafted-free-agents)):

Mario Harvey - MLB - Marshall (Bills)
Joe Lefeged - SS- Rutgers (Colts)
Noel Devine - RB - West Virginia (Falcons)
Ian Williams - NT - Notre Dame (Niners)
Jeron Johnson -SS - Boise State (Seahawks)

Edit: Terrance Tolliver - WR - LSU to Texans

nice

i think i wanted the texans to draft terrance in the 7th round, but of course that didnt happen.

SteveSlaton20
07-26-2011, 12:19 AM
Really like signing Jeff Maehl. Underrated player.

agree. hopefully he plays the slot if we dont get a WR in the FA.

Wolf6151
07-26-2011, 12:32 AM
Bubba Bartlett (TE/FB, Carroll College)
Jeff Maehl (WR, Texans)
Zac Pauga (FB, Colorado State)
Pete Hendrickson (OT, Tulane)
Lestar Jean (WR, Florida Atlantic)
Terrance Tolliver (WR, LSU) ???


Terrance Tolliver is the only one on this list that's worth having. It's all offense and reeks of Kubiak's usual BS, more TE's and CSU players.

As of right now Deunta Williams-FS from UNC is still available, he was considered a 1st round pick before he broke his leg. He'd be worth a practice squad or IR spot for a year and see what he can do next year.

thunderkyss
07-26-2011, 12:44 AM
Bubba Bartlett (TE/FB, Carroll College)
Jeff Maehl (WR, Texans)
Zac Pauga (FB, Colorado State)
Pete Hendrickson (OT, Tulane)
Lestar Jean (WR, Florida Atlantic)
Terrance Tolliver (WR, LSU) ???


Terrance Tolliver is the only one on this list that's worth having. It's all offense and reeks of Kubiak's usual BS, more TE's and CSU players.

He gave practically the whole draft to Wade.

Kubiak has done a very good job with the picks he's had on offense.

Wolf6151
07-26-2011, 12:50 AM
He gave practically the whole draft to Wade.

Kubiak has done a very good job with the picks he's had on offense.

Yes he did and for good reason. We still have holes at FS/SS and NT that need filling. We could spend all of next years draft on defense as well, one draft ain't gonna give us a high quality unit.

thunderkyss
07-26-2011, 01:00 AM
Yes he did and for good reason. We still have holes at FS/SS and NT that need filling. We could spend all of next years draft on defense as well, one draft ain't gonna give us a high quality unit.

& that may be the plan. I see nothing wrong with signing UDFAs as camp bodies.

Besides, most of our drafts have been defense heavy.

keyser
07-26-2011, 01:01 AM
There are multiple UDFA threads, and this is a bit different, so I'll make a separate one. Mods -feel free to merge.

I went through the top 100 undrafted players I had listed, that don't seem to have been signed (as of about half an hour ago). My list is not my own evaluation, just going off of other people's, and we're in the area where these ratings aren't too reliable. Still, I thought some might want to see who some of the "top" players still available are. Here are those left from the top 100 - sorry for any errors.

Brandon Bair, DE, Oregon
Dane Sanzenbacher, WR, Ohio State
Deunta Williams, FS, North Carolina
Martin Parker, DT, Richmond
Schuylar Oordt, TE, Northern Iowa
Zach Hurd, OG, Connecticut
Jerrard Tarrant, FS, Georgia Tech
Mark Herzlich, OLB, Boston College
Adrian Moten, OLB, Maryland
Zane Taylor, C, Utah
Willie Smith, OT, East Carolina
Armon Binns, WR, Cincinnatti
Ryan Jones, CB, Northwest Missouri State
Charlie Gantt, TE, Michigan State
Kai Forbath, K, UCLA
Ray Dominguez, OG, Arkansas
Nate Williams, SS, Washington
David Sims, SS, Iowa State
Orie Lemon, ILB, Oklahoma State
Carl Johnson, OG, Florida
Ollie Ogbu, DT, Penn State
Will Hill, FS, Florida
Josh Jasper, K, LSU
Adam Grant, OT, Arizona
John Clay, RB, Wisconsin
Ryan Bartholomew, C, Syracuse
Andrew McGee, CB, Oklahoma State
Owen Spencer, WR, North Carolina State
Zack Pianalto, TE, North Carolina
John Graves, DT, Virginia Tech
Andre Smith, TE, Virginia Tech
Jock Sanders, WR, West Virginia
Thomas Keiser, OLB, Stanford
Jerrod Johnson, QB, Texas A&M
Chas Henry, P, Florida
Elijah Joseph, ILB, Temple
Brandon Saine, RB, Ohio State
O.J. Murdock, WR, Fort Hays State
Patrick DiMarco, FB, South Carolina
Chris Matthews, WR, Kentucky
Darrin Walls, CB, Notre Dame
Josh Portis, QB, California Pennsylvania
Cameron Graham, TE, Louisville
Kevin Hughes, OT, Southeastern Louisiana
Ryan Hill, CB, Miami
Kyle Adams, TE, Purdue

Wolf6151
07-26-2011, 01:40 AM
& that may be the plan. I see nothing wrong with signing UDFAs as camp bodies.

Besides, most of our drafts have been defense heavy.

I don't mind signing UDFA's as camp bodies either but I wish they were defensive camp bodies where we have the vast majority of team holes to fill and in case we get that diamond in the rough that turns into a starter. He'd be a defensive starter. These signings make it look like Leach and JJ are possibly not going to be resigned.

mussop
07-26-2011, 06:42 AM
All I know is we better sign Mark Herzlich, OLB, Boston College!:aggressive:
















J/k :spin:

panamamyers
07-26-2011, 06:43 AM
Orie Lemon would be nice.

Smokedawg
07-26-2011, 06:49 AM
Josh Jasper K LSU
Deunta Williams S North Carolina
Mark Herzlich LB Boston College

all need to be signed

mussop
07-26-2011, 06:51 AM
Bubba Bartlett (TE/FB, Carroll College)
Jeff Maehl (WR, Texans)
Zac Pauga (FB, Colorado State)
Pete Hendrickson (OT, Tulane)
Lestar Jean (WR, Florida Atlantic)
Terrance Tolliver (WR, LSU) ???


Terrance Tolliver is the only one on this list that's worth having. It's all offense and reeks of Kubiak's usual BS, more TE's and CSU players.

As of right now Deunta Williams-FS from UNC is still available, he was considered a 1st round pick before he broke his leg. He'd be worth a practice squad or IR spot for a year and see what he can do next year.

He is the one Ufa I really would lime to see us go after.

Señor Stan
07-26-2011, 06:55 AM
Hey, re-read your post, dopp.

LOL!

Yes, a solid #2 DOES need time to develop. I agree.

Unless you have a bran muffin and a large cup of coffee...

IDEXAN
07-26-2011, 07:08 AM
We’ve been tracking pre-draft visits and workouts since early March, and one of the lesser-known names receiving a noticeable amount of interest is Baldwin-Wallace defensive end Keith Darbut.

Darbut was the D-3 Ohio Athletic Conference Defensive Lineman of the Year in 2010, recording 10.5 sacks, 15 tackles for loss, and two forced fumbles. He also caught a 40-yard touchdown pass on offense.


And Darbut’s measurables are eye-opening.

Darbut participated at the Akron Pro Day on March 10. Measuring in at 6-foot-4 and 229 pounds, the 22-year-old Baldwin-Wallace team captain ran forty times of 4.38 and 4.40 with a 1.42 ten-yard split that would’ve bested all pass rushers at the Combine.

He also recorded a 10-foot-6 broad jump and 38-inch vertical, benching 225 pounds 26 times.http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/04/20/draft-sleeper-baldwin-wallace-pass-rusher-keith-darbut/
****
Keith Darbut, OLB Baldwin-College.

El Tejano
07-26-2011, 07:21 AM
Nate Williams S Washington
John Clay RB Wisconsin
Chaz Henry P Florida

Those are some pretty good names to add to your roster. Even if John Clay only ends up being camp fodder, you can't go wrong with signing a UDFA as a big bull dozer for a RB on your team.

J_R
07-26-2011, 07:39 AM
LZ: Rick Smith tells me that the Texans agreed to deals with 18 undrafted free agents last night who will sign today.

Texanmike02
07-26-2011, 07:48 AM
He and several other at North Caroliona were suspended for selling college stuff for cash. He was suspended an entire year if I remember correctly. Others only missed a few games.
His 2009 years was awesome with several INTs at free safety

So you're saying he's better at marketing than the other players? Definitely a place here in Houston.

Mike

J_R
07-26-2011, 07:56 AM
Add Bryan Braman (LB, West Texas A&M) to the Texans

John Clay to the Steelers and Chas Henry to the Eagles

El Tejano
07-26-2011, 08:07 AM
Looks like we might have signed a third WR - Terrence Toliver from LSU.

The WRs we've signed are actually an awfully strong set of WRs, for UDFAs. All three were in the "top 7" undrafted WRs on my list. Not that any will necessarily make the team, but we couldn't do much better than this if we were targeting WR.

Actually that's a very nice pick up if true.

El Tejano
07-26-2011, 08:08 AM
Add Bryan Braman (LB, West Texas A&M) to the Texans

John Clay to the Steelers and Chas Henry to the Eagles

Those punks got both the kickers I wanted. Steelers got a guy that fits right there.

Señor Stan
07-26-2011, 08:15 AM
Bring in Blaine "The Vanilla Gorilla" Sumner! Worth it for goal line situations alone.

Blaine Sumner thread (http://www.texanstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=80551)

beerlover
07-26-2011, 08:58 AM
Interesting - http://amarillo.com/news/local-news/2010-10-12/west-texas-am-football-player-faces-drug-charges?page=1

Doppelganger
07-26-2011, 09:00 AM
Interesting - http://amarillo.com/news/local-news/2010-10-12/west-texas-am-football-player-faces-drug-charges?page=1

Ouch. Well, he is in major trouble.

Dutchrudder
07-26-2011, 09:04 AM
Bubba Bartlett (TE/FB, Carroll College)
Jeff Maehl (WR, Texans)
Zac Pauga (FB, Colorado State)
Pete Hendrickson (OT, Tulane)
Lestar Jean (WR, Florida Atlantic)
Terrance Tolliver (WR, LSU) ???


Terrance Tolliver is the only one on this list that's worth having. It's all offense and reeks of Kubiak's usual BS, more TE's and CSU players.

As of right now Deunta Williams-FS from UNC is still available, he was considered a 1st round pick before he broke his leg. He'd be worth a practice squad or IR spot for a year and see what he can do next year.

Deunta sounds like another Arian Foster. Injured player considered high value before he got hurt, but needs to hang onto a practice squad for a year to recover.

thunderkyss
07-26-2011, 09:19 AM
I don't mind signing UDFA's as camp bodies either but I wish they were defensive camp bodies where we have the vast majority of team holes to fill and in case we get that diamond in the rough that turns into a starter. He'd be a defensive starter. These signings make it look like Leach and JJ are possibly not going to be resigned.

That's silly.

No way an UDFA will take the place of Leach or JJ this year. Next year maybe, but they won't be contributing this year.

No OTAs, not being signed till last night... I'm just not seeing it.

Rey
07-26-2011, 09:23 AM
That's silly.

No way an UDFA will take the place of Leach or JJ this year. Next year maybe, but they won't be contributing this year.

No OTAs, not being signed till last night... I'm just not seeing it.

Don't have to take their place. All they have to do is provide depth and make the incumbents earn their spot.

And fb is a position where an undrafted free agent can actually play early on.

Doppelganger
07-26-2011, 09:27 AM
Don't have to take their place. All they have to do is provide depth and make the incumbents earn their spot.

And fb is a position where an undrafted free agent can actually play early on.

Yep. FB is the simplest job on the football team. All you have to do is know the playbook and run forward to make a hole for your running back. On passing plays, you sit in a general area and block. Pretty simple.

Not easy, but simple.

XI CMURDER IX
07-26-2011, 09:37 AM
Looks like we might have signed a third WR - Terrence Toliver from LSU.

The WRs we've signed are actually an awfully strong set of WRs, for UDFAs. All three were in the "top 7" undrafted WRs on my list. Not that any will necessarily make the team, but we couldn't do much better than this if we were targeting WR.

I love this signing if it is true, he isn't the fastest guy but he has the size to be a threat in the red zone. Maybe he will pick up some stuff from Andre. I thought he was worth a 5th rounder back in April.

EDIT: Jerrod Johnson was picked up by the Eagles... he is going to be something special I think.

J_R
07-26-2011, 09:37 AM
Herzlich to Giants, Jerrod Johnson to Philly

El Tejano
07-26-2011, 09:39 AM
Ouch. Well, he is in major trouble.

Surprised we still went after him since he isn't a choir boy.

The Pencil Neck
07-26-2011, 09:43 AM
Surprised we still went after him since he isn't a choir boy.

Have we tweaked our philosophy a little bit?

The Pencil Neck
07-26-2011, 09:50 AM
We added Adrian Taylor, DL.

The Pencil Neck
07-26-2011, 09:52 AM
http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/adrian-taylor?id=2495238

Oklahoma. Strong run-stopper. Tore his achilles his senior season.

dalemurphy
07-26-2011, 09:53 AM
That's silly.

No way an UDFA will take the place of Leach or JJ this year. Next year maybe, but they won't be contributing this year.

No OTAs, not being signed till last night... I'm just not seeing it.

If we let Leach go, then the offense will change. We will run more single back sets and use an H-back and motion more often. However, it's important to have a FB for those moments when a power game is called for.

Houston fans should appreciate this fact. Remember the Oilers troubles with big leads in games when they ran the run and shoot (cough. Buffalo)... No TEs and no FBs on the roster left them unable to manage a lead.

drs23
07-26-2011, 09:53 AM
http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/adrian-taylor?id=2495238

Oklahoma. Strong run-stopper. Tore his achilles his senior season.

So we can be fielding the Achilles Crew?

CloakNNNdagger
07-26-2011, 10:01 AM
Interesting - http://amarillo.com/news/local-news/2010-10-12/west-texas-am-football-player-faces-drug-charges?page=1

Ouch. Well, he is in major trouble.

Surprised we still went after him since he isn't a choir boy.

Have we tweaked our philosophy a little bit?

Maybe Wade's brought in some Cowboys carryover mentality.

WT-ex Braman gets chance with Texans (http://amarillo.com/sports/wtcollege-sports/2011-07-26/wt-ex-braman-gets-chance-texans#.Ti7UqWG4y68)

Posted: July 26, 2011 - 1:42am

By DAVE HENRY

Former West Texas A&M defensive end Bryan Braman has a second chance at football - this time in the National Football League.

Braman, one of the top defensive ends in the Lone Star Conference before legal troubles led to his departure from Canyon last year, signed a free-agent contract Monday with the Houston Texans.

Braman, 6-foot-6, 240 pounds, was suspended indefinitely from the Buffs in October. He pleaded guilty last month to manufacturing psilocybin, a hallucinogen found in mushrooms. He was sentenced to one year of deferred adjudication and paid a $2,000 fine.

Braman said Texans defensive assistant Bobby King, a former WT assistant coach and also an assistant coach with the Dallas Cowboys under Wade Phillips, played a key role in the opportunity with Houston. Phillips is the defensive coordinator with the Texans.

"I think Coach King has been a key for me. He kind of kept me on the board and knew that I was a good guy," Braman said. "I really want to make something happen, work hard and take advantage of this opportunity."

Braman, from Spokane, Wash., redshirted in 2006 at Idaho and went to Long Beach City College in 2007-08.

As the NFL lockout, which ended Monday, dragged on for more than four months, Braman was optimistic he would eventually get a shot in the NFL.

"It has been kind of frustrating, not knowing what to say when people ask you what you're going to do," Braman said. "You just kind of have to sit around and wait. You don't know if you should look at arena football or what."

Braman said he is scheduled to report to the Texans today and will be at training camp this weekend. Houston is looking at him as an outside linebacker.

"I'm about the same weight I was when I left Canyon," Braman said. "That's has been a struggle for me, to put on weight. I have done my best to stay in shape and be ready. I feel very blessed to have this opportunity."

Errant Hothy
07-26-2011, 10:03 AM
A sign that the Texans might be moving off their rigid character demands for palyers?

b0ng
07-26-2011, 10:04 AM
He got busted for growing mushrooms.

These are the kind of character concerns I can get behind.

hobie
07-26-2011, 10:05 AM
[QUOTE=HoustonSportsFan09;1730565 Herzlich to Giants, Jerrod Johnson to Philly[/QUOTE]

That's a great story, and a GREAT pickup for NY.. Also being a Giants fan, this move is a real good one...Plus having ties to BC didn't hurt !!

The Pencil Neck
07-26-2011, 10:13 AM
Dane Sanzenbacher just went to the Bears.

I was hoping we'd pick him up.

keyser
07-26-2011, 10:18 AM
Just updating the list a bit, based on new signings listed:

Deunta Williams, FS, North Carolina
Schuylar Oordt, TE, Northern Iowa
Jerrard Tarrant, FS, Georgia Tech
Willie Smith, OT, East Carolina
Charlie Gantt, TE, Michigan State
Kai Forbath, K, UCLA
Ray Dominguez, OG, Arkansas
Nate Williams, SS, Washington
Orie Lemon, ILB, Oklahoma State
Carl Johnson, OG, Florida
Ollie Ogbu, DT, Penn State
Will Hill, FS, Florida
Josh Jasper, K, LSU
Adam Grant, OT, Arizona
Andrew McGee, CB, Oklahoma State
Owen Spencer, WR, North Carolina State
Zack Pianalto, TE, North Carolina
John Graves, DT, Virginia Tech
Andre Smith, TE, Virginia Tech
Jock Sanders, WR, West Virginia
Thomas Keiser, OLB, Stanford
Elijah Joseph, ILB, Temple
O.J. Murdock, WR, Fort Hays State
Patrick DiMarco, FB, South Carolina
Josh Portis, QB, California Pennsylvania
Cameron Graham, TE, Louisville
Kevin Hughes, OT, Southeastern Louisiana
Ryan Hill, CB, Miami
Kyle Adams, TE, Purdue

drs23
07-26-2011, 10:22 AM
He got busted for growing mushrooms.

These are the kind of character concerns I can get behind.

Yeah, no joke. Didn't know shrooms were that big of a deal. Got busted for "cultivating"... did he have his own livestock or is it done synthetically now? Guess I'm 3 or 4 decades outta the loop. :fingergun:

Doppelganger
07-26-2011, 10:23 AM
Just updating the list a bit, based on new signings listed:

Deunta Williams, FS, North Carolina
Schuylar Oordt, TE, Northern Iowa
Jerrard Tarrant, FS, Georgia Tech
Willie Smith, OT, East Carolina
Charlie Gantt, TE, Michigan State
Kai Forbath, K, UCLA
Ray Dominguez, OG, Arkansas
Nate Williams, SS, Washington
Orie Lemon, ILB, Oklahoma State
Carl Johnson, OG, Florida
Ollie Ogbu, DT, Penn State
Will Hill, FS, Florida
Josh Jasper, K, LSU
Adam Grant, OT, Arizona
Andrew McGee, CB, Oklahoma State
Owen Spencer, WR, North Carolina State
Zack Pianalto, TE, North Carolina
John Graves, DT, Virginia Tech
Andre Smith, TE, Virginia Tech
Jock Sanders, WR, West Virginia
Thomas Keiser, OLB, Stanford
Elijah Joseph, ILB, Temple
O.J. Murdock, WR, Fort Hays State
Patrick DiMarco, FB, South Carolina
Josh Portis, QB, California Pennsylvania
Cameron Graham, TE, Louisville
Kevin Hughes, OT, Southeastern Louisiana
Ryan Hill, CB, Miami
Kyle Adams, TE, Purdue

Give me Nate Williams. Not spectacular, but has a nose for the football.

MistaRed
07-26-2011, 10:26 AM
Give me Nate Williams. Not spectacular, but has a nose for the football.

Nate Williams got picked up this morning, I forgot which team though.

The Pencil Neck
07-26-2011, 10:27 AM
Nate Williams got picked up this morning, I forgot which team though.

Ravens.

Doppelganger
07-26-2011, 10:28 AM
He got busted for growing mushrooms.

These are the kind of character concerns I can get behind.

All joking aside, the reasons, kids do this stuff is they need money. If the NCAA granted work study money to these guys, you wouldn't see guys doing stuff like this.

MistaRed
07-26-2011, 10:30 AM
Texans just signed Jason Teague, CB from TCU

The Pencil Neck
07-26-2011, 10:31 AM
We just got Jason Teague, CB.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1692866

Strengths: Long-armed player with a rangy frame who uses his length to fight off blocks. Gets physical with receivers at the line of scrimmage and is willing to support against the run. Displays relatively quick feet for his size in press coverage, maintains balance when jamming. Recognizes routes, often anticipating the throw in zone. Flashes some fluidity when changing directions inside. Uses height and vertical to knock away jump balls in the red zone or down the sideline.

Weaknesses: A bit light, must add bulk to hold up at the next level. Does not possess adequate deep speed to stay with elite receivers. Lacks recovery speed if beaten on initial move. Gets upright and struggles to turn and run when he misses his jam at the line. Loses balance when attempting to mirror speedier players. Sits back on his heels when he should be breaking on the ball. Peeks into the backfield; aggressiveness against the run puts him out of position at times.

b0ng
07-26-2011, 10:33 AM
Yeah, no joke. Didn't know shrooms were that big of a deal. Got busted for "cultivating"... did he have his own livestock or is it done synthetically now? Guess I'm 3 or 4 decades outta the loop. :fingergun:

You can do it with a mixture of brown rice flour, vermiculite and some canning jars. That's only one way to do it there are tons of others (mostly you can just buy livestock manure if you want to go that route).

I can't imagine he was growing enough to make serious cash off of though, probably just had a kit and was doing it for personal usage. That's my total guess since it looks like he got a slap on the wrist for a manufacturing charge, which is usually serious business.

GP
07-26-2011, 10:41 AM
Some signings that piqued my interest (from nepatriotsdraft.com (http://www.nepatriotsdraft.com/2011-nfl-undrafted-free-agents)):

Mario Harvey - MLB - Marshall (Bills)
Joe Lefeged - SS- Rutgers (Colts)
Noel Devine - RB - West Virginia (Falcons)
Ian Williams - NT - Notre Dame (Niners)
Jeron Johnson -SS - Boise State (Seahawks)

Edit: Terrance Tolliver - WR - LSU to Texans

I think Atlanta is a good fit for him.

drs23
07-26-2011, 10:42 AM
You can do it with a mixture of brown rice flour, vermiculite and some canning jars. That's only one way to do it there are tons of others (mostly you can just buy livestock manure if you want to go that route).

I can't imagine he was growing enough to make serious cash off of though, probably just had a kit and was doing it for personal usage. That's my total guess since it looks like he got a slap on the wrist for a manufacturing charge, which is usually serious business.

Gotcha. Thanks for the update. Homegrown shrooms, who'd a thunk it? :chef:

The1ApplePie
07-26-2011, 10:46 AM
Looks like we also got Jeff Maehl, WR from Oregon (http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=70746&draftyear=2011&genpos=).

Maehl was a beast in college. Has some Wes Welker qualities to him.

Allstar
07-26-2011, 10:49 AM
We have a Punter. Brett Hartmann from Central Michigan.

Vinnie
07-26-2011, 11:13 AM
You can do it with a mixture of brown rice flour, vermiculite and some canning jars. That's only one way to do it there are tons of others (mostly you can just buy livestock manure if you want to go that route).


Ah, the old PF Tech. Hopefully this kid can make something of himself after being gifted that sentence. Lot's of guys that got busted for the exact same thing are doing hard time.

CretorFrigg
07-26-2011, 11:18 AM
Maehl was a beast in college. Has some Wes Welker qualities to him.

That's exactly what I thought when I was watching his highlights. He reminded me a bit of a combination between Wes Welker and Brandon Stokley. Maehl played in one of the top offenses in college football and produced. He may not be the biggest guy, but he's got great hands and quickness, as evidenced by his combine results.

At the NFL combine Jeff Maehl had a strong performance. He measured in at 6'1" and 190 lbs and ran a below-average 40-time at 4.62 seconds. However, in the measures of quickness - 20-yard shuttle, 60-yard shuttle, and 3-cone drill - Maehl finished 2nd, 1st, and 1st respectively. Maehl's 6.42 second 3-cone drill was not only the fastest in this year's draft, but the fastest it has been run in 6 years.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Maehl

I'm looking forward to seeing this guy on the field.

El Tejano
07-26-2011, 11:24 AM
That's exactly what I thought when I was watching his highlights. He reminded me a bit of a combination between Wes Welker and Brandon Stokley. Maehl played in one of the top offenses in college football and produced. He may not be the biggest guy, but he's got great hands and quickness, as evidenced by his combine results.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Maehl

I'm looking forward to seeing this guy on the field.

This is the kind of player I wanted to pick up. David Anderson better put the jokes away for this camp.

steelbtexan
07-26-2011, 11:55 AM
Love the Taylor, Tolliver,Maehl signings.

I could see Teague as a PS guy and Taylor being put on the IR this yr.

Taylor is a player if he can get healthy,

Tolliver is the big red zone WR that this team needs opposite AJ. Tolliver and possibly Maehl could replace JJ and DA. Tolliver is better than JJ already. IMHO

drs23
07-26-2011, 11:58 AM
Love the Taylor, Tolliver,Maehl signings.

I could see Teague as a PS guy and Taylor being put on the IR this yr.

Taylor is a player if he can get healthy,

Tolliver is the big red zone WR that this team needs opposite AJ. Tolliver and possibly Maehl could replace JJ and DA. Tolliver is better than JJ already. IMHO

Haven't really watched him as far as I remember. Is he as quick and explosive as JJ is?

steelbtexan
07-26-2011, 12:04 PM
Haven't really watched him as far as I remember. Is he as quick and explosive as JJ is?

No, but he has better hands and runs better routes. He can get deep but doesn't have the straight line speed that JJ does. I forget which all star game he played in. But he was the best WR in practice throughout the week.

I was suprised he didn't get drafted. I had him rated as a 4/5th rder.

CretorFrigg
07-26-2011, 12:10 PM
Texans just signed Jason Teague, CB from TCU

Link? Where are you guys getting this info?

The Pencil Neck
07-26-2011, 12:11 PM
Link? Where are you guys getting this info?

http://www.nflroughdraft.com/node/145
http://www.nepatriotsdraft.com/2011-nfl-undrafted-free-agents

texanhead08
07-26-2011, 12:14 PM
[QUOTE=mussop;1730483]All I know is we better sign Mark Herzlich, OLB, Boston College!:aggressive:


ESPN is reporting he signed with the Giants.

Stemp
07-26-2011, 12:16 PM
Tolliver could be a diamond in the rough type guy.
Definitely someone we want to at least keep on the practice squad for a year.

CloakNNNdagger
07-26-2011, 12:34 PM
I don't think that this has been posted re. Maehl.

He did benefit by the system......spread offense. But the highlight films are still quite impressive. See VIDEO! (http://www.oregonlive.com/nfl/index.ssf/2011/04/nfl_draft_oregon_wide_receiver.html)

NFL Draft: Oregon wide receiver Jeff Maehl a late-round prospect despite great production (video)
Published: Thursday, April 28, 2011, 2:30 PM Updated: Thursday, April 28, 2011, 4:06 PM

Oregon wide receiver Jeff Maehl (6-1, 190) scored 24 receiving touchdowns, tied for the most in school history, and set the NFL Scouting Combine record in 3-cone drill.

The problem for Maehl is that there are no cones in the field of play in the NFL and many of his touchdowns came when he was wide open courtesy of the spread-option offense.

NFL teams wonder if Maehl at his size will be able to elude press coverage and create separation with his 4.62 speed.

An NFL Scout's take: "He was productive and gets open. Shows quickness. But he's rail thin. Could be a late pick."

Rob Rang, NFLDraftScout.com: "You've got to give him credit for his quickness. You see on tape that he is able to get open consistently. He has hands. But he's so wiry. Some teams will look at him and not even watch the tape because they think he'll get broken in the NFL."

Errant Hothy
07-26-2011, 12:44 PM
Jason Teague, CB, TCU to become a Texan

http://www.kffl.com/team/18/nfl/houston-texans

CloakNNNdagger
07-26-2011, 12:47 PM
CB signing.................Jason Teague (CB, TCU) 6'2" 197


Overview

TCU's recent rise to near-elite status has been heavily credited to their defense - and the admiration is warranted. The Horned Frogs have consistently milked big-time production from under-the-radar athletes, though that strategy hasn't always cultivated a lot of NFL stardom. Teague is hoping to reverse that trend, and has the size to do it.

Texas' 2005 3-A Defensive Most Valuable Player originally signed with LSU but wound up at Tyler Junior College for his first year due to academic issues. He then transferred to TCU, but saw limited action in five games after suffering a right knee injury in camp. Teague got his chance as a junior, breaking into the starting lineup in the fourth game of the year, intercepting two passes and breaking up three others. He again intercepted two passes in 2010 (along with seven pass breakups and two forced fumbles), earning All-Mountain West second-team honors.

With so little experience and so much raw ability, there's a lot to like about Teague as an NFL project defensive back. His height, length and and aggressive demeanor give him a chance to contribute in the right system, as well as on special teams.

Analysis

Strengths: Long-armed player with a rangy frame who uses his length to fight off blocks. Gets physical with receivers at the line of scrimmage and is willing to support against the run. Displays relatively quick feet for his size in press coverage, maintains balance when jamming. Recognizes routes, often anticipating the throw in zone. Flashes some fluidity when changing directions inside. Uses height and vertical to knock away jump balls in the red zone or down the sideline.

Weaknesses: A bit light, must add bulk to hold up at the next level. Does not possess adequate deep speed to stay with elite receivers. Lacks recovery speed if beaten on initial move. Gets upright and struggles to turn and run when he misses his jam at the line. Loses balance when attempting to mirror speedier players. Sits back on his heels when he should be breaking on the ball. Peeks into the backfield; aggressiveness against the run puts him out of position at times.

--Hunter Ainsley link (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1692866)

CloakNNNdagger
07-26-2011, 12:53 PM
Jason Teague, CB, TCU to become a Texan

http://www.kffl.com/team/18/nfl/houston-texans

Wonder???????

Teague could turn some heads in the pre-draft workouts. He is a quick, smart player and has more size than some other corners in this class. He is also a big hitter and capable of moving over to free safety if he needs to do so. Right now Teague is likely a fifth or sixth round selection, but do not be surprised if his stock rises between now and draft timelink (http://www.fftoolbox.com/nfl_draft/profile_display.cfm?prospect_id=2677)

keyser
07-26-2011, 12:56 PM
Word is that John Graves, DT, and Steven Friday, DE, both from Virginia Tech, are going to the Texans.

whiskeyrbl
07-26-2011, 12:59 PM
That's silly.

No way an UDFA will take the place of Leach or JJ this year. Next year maybe, but they won't be contributing this year.

No OTAs, not being signed till last night... I'm just not seeing it.

People said the same thing about Foster

keyser
07-26-2011, 01:00 PM
And another update (took off Nate Williams, since others said he was gone). As a reminder, these are those in the top 100 undrafterd, based on the spreadsheet rank I had, who are not listed as signed (on http://www.nepatriotsdraft.com/2011-nfl-undrafted-free-agents). 81 of those 100 are listed as signed, the other 19 (in "order") are:

Deunta Williams, FS, North Carolina
Jerrard Tarrant, FS, Georgia Tech
Charlie Gantt, TE, Michigan State
Kai Forbath, K, UCLA
Orie Lemon, ILB, Oklahoma State
Carl Johnson, OG, Florida
Ollie Ogbu, DT, Penn State
Josh Jasper, K, LSU
Adam Grant, OT, Arizona
Andrew McGee, CB, Oklahoma State
Owen Spencer, WR, North Carolina State
Zack Pianalto, TE, North Carolina
Jock Sanders, WR, West Virginia
Thomas Keiser, OLB, Stanford
Patrick DiMarco, FB, South Carolina
Cameron Graham, TE, Louisville
Kevin Hughes, OT, Southeastern Louisiana
Ryan Hill, CB, Miami
Kyle Adams, TE, Purdue

Rey
07-26-2011, 01:02 PM
Another thing about the free agents is that you can kind if tell who was at the top of our list.

Not the exact order but you can tell who we put in an early call to.

I'm thinking vonta is gone

Section516
07-26-2011, 01:02 PM
So, did we pick up a P? Still rolling with the Turk?

BullsOnParade
07-26-2011, 01:04 PM
Word is that John Graves, DT, and Steven Friday, DE, both from Virginia Tech, are going to the Texans.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/hokies-journal/post/seven-undrafted-hokies-will-sign-with-nfl-teams-as-free-agents/2011/07/26/gIQA3WyoaI_blog.html

The Pencil Neck
07-26-2011, 01:05 PM
So, did we pick up a P? Still rolling with the Turk?

I saw someone say we'd picked up a P but I haven't seen one in any of my sources, yet.

We might be going FA instead of UDFA for the P.

drs23
07-26-2011, 01:06 PM
So, did we pick up a P? Still rolling with the Turk?

Brett Hartmann, Central Michigan

DoCRoN
07-26-2011, 01:08 PM
We have a Punter. Brett Hartmann from Central Michigan.

Where you see that?

beerlover
07-26-2011, 01:08 PM
Adrian Taylor (DL, Oklahoma) could work into the nose rotation? strong at the point of attack, can stack & shed.
Jason Teague (CB, TCU) a FS project? love those horned frogs

HOU-TEX
07-26-2011, 01:14 PM
All of these guys are way behind the 8 ball. Honestly, I feel for them and hope a few stick. I'm always rootin for the underdog, but these fellas are going to have to learn and prove a lot in such a short time.

BullsOnParade
07-26-2011, 01:15 PM
Where you see that?

Ya, not seeing this yet. Could be true, but I can't find a source. Then again, it is a punter...

beerlover
07-26-2011, 01:16 PM
John Graves Virginia Tech is a 5 tech DE could project similar to Antonio Smith when all is said & done. Good motor.

Steven Friday would have to make it on special teams, probably work his way off PS.

srrono
07-26-2011, 01:27 PM
well i dont know if this has been said but these are a few of the Texans UDFA signings
Terrance Tolliver WR LSU
Jason Teague CB TCU
Adrian Taylor DE Oklahoma
Bryan Braman LB West Texas A&M
Lestar Jean WR Florida Atlantic
Pete Hendrickson OT Tulane
Bubba Bartlett TE Carroll College
Jeff Maehl WR Oregon
Zac Pauga FB Colorado State

The Pencil Neck
07-26-2011, 01:31 PM
well i dont know if this has been said but these are a few of the Texans UDFA signings
Terrance Tolliver WR LSU
Jason Teague CB TCU
Adrian Taylor DE Oklahoma
Bryan Braman LB West Texas A&M
Lestar Jean WR Florida Atlantic
Pete Hendrickson OT Tulane
Bubba Bartlett TE Carroll College
Jeff Maehl WR Oregon
Zac Pauga FB Colorado State

Yep. Those are the ones we know about.

There are a few others reported but unverified.

I believe Nick Scurfield said they have agreements with 18 so far.

Dutchrudder
07-26-2011, 01:34 PM
Brett Hartmann, Central Michigan

I hope they bring in another Punter just to compete in camp. With the limit now set to 90, they ought to bring in 3 punters and 3 kickers for camp each year. Justin Brantley - Texas A&M - was in our camp for a week last year, maybe they can bring him back to compete.

CloakNNNdagger
07-26-2011, 01:40 PM
Ya, not seeing this yet. Could be true, but I can't find a source. Then again, it is a punter...

Scarey how little is out there about him........nothing impressive at all. Could the Texans be stacking the cards to keep Turk?:kitten:

thunderkyss
07-26-2011, 01:44 PM
People said the same thing about Foster

And Kubiak proved them right. Foster didn't see game time until week 8 or 9 then not again until week 16. & we desperately needed help as early as week 5.

Kubiak isn't going to throw an UDFA into the line up to replace Vonta Leach or Jacoby Jones this year.


Ain't gonna happen.

CloakNNNdagger
07-26-2011, 01:49 PM
You can do it with a mixture of brown rice flour, vermiculite and some canning jars. That's only one way to do it there are tons of others (mostly you can just buy livestock manure if you want to go that route).

I can't imagine he was growing enough to make serious cash off of though, probably just had a kit and was doing it for personal usage. That's my total guess since it looks like he got a slap on the wrist for a manufacturing charge, which is usually serious business.

Besides the recognized risk of shrooms, there have been several cases of group death due to simply accidentally mixing in mushrooms that were toxic in the production vat.

Honoring Earl 34
07-26-2011, 01:57 PM
Scarey how little is out there about him........nothing impressive at all. Could the Texans be stacking the cards to keep Turk?:kitten:

http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=74841&draftyear=2011&genpos=P

http://blog.mlive.com/fireupchips/2009/08/most_outoftowners_heading_to_w.html

DoCRoN
07-26-2011, 02:02 PM
Could the Texans be stacking the cards to keep Turk?:kitten:

Please no. Not after last year.

Shaft75
07-26-2011, 02:04 PM
It seems that Brett is good at kickoffs. Maybe they want Rackers to stop trying to make tackles and just kick field goals.

XI CMURDER IX
07-26-2011, 02:08 PM
Wonder???????

link (http://www.fftoolbox.com/nfl_draft/profile_display.cfm?prospect_id=2677)


All TCU corners and safeties learn how to play interchangeably. Even though it is an entirely different scheme, free safeties tend to play in the middle of the field and roam around.

dsorc
07-26-2011, 02:09 PM
And Kubiak proved them right. Foster didn't see game time until week 8 or 9 then not again until week 16. & we desperately needed help as early as week 5.

Kubiak isn't going to throw an UDFA into the line up to replace Vonta Leach or Jacoby Jones this year.


Ain't gonna happen.

More likely scenario is Dorin Dickerson and James Casey taking up their playing time while UDFAs take over their roster slot.

Wolf6151
07-26-2011, 02:35 PM
Word is that John Graves, DT, and Steven Friday, DE, both from Virginia Tech, are going to the Texans.

I thought Steven Friday got drafted, obviously not though. I wanted him in the draft, great size and speed as an OLB/DE pass rush specialist. Good sigining. I don't know anything about Graves but I'm glad we picked up another DT.

Errant Hothy
07-26-2011, 03:08 PM
Texans | Adrian Taylor signs

Tue, 26 Jul 2011 12:18:35 -0700

The Houston Texans have signed undrafted rookie free-agent DT Adrian Taylor (Oklahoma).

http://www.kffl.com/team/18/nfl/houston-texans

painekiller
07-26-2011, 03:16 PM
http://blog.mlive.com/fireupchips/2009/08/most_outoftowners_heading_to_w.html

Here is the key line in the whole matter to Coach Joe
Punt Hartmann Punt

In the Punting Bracket, Hartmann dominated his competition. Hartmann competed against punters from schools like Arizona, Ball State, Iowa State, Maryland and Penn State in a myriad of statistical categories. In the end no one could touch Hartmann's hang time of 4.71 - longer than any other kicker at the camp - giving Hartman a total score of 114, and first place finish out of the 24 punters.

Texans34Life
07-26-2011, 03:16 PM
Delete....saw it in the early parts of the thread.

Section516
07-26-2011, 03:18 PM
Contrary to reports, West Virginia RB Noel Devine has not signed with Atlanta. Devine still is a free agent looking for work.

AdamSchefter Adam Schefter

ArlingtonTexan
07-26-2011, 03:25 PM
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/fb/texansfront/7670138.html


The Texans have agreed to contract terms with 18 undrafted free agents, including receiver Terrence Toliver, the Hempstead native who played at LSU and was voted the Most Valuable Offensive Player in this year's Cotton Bowl.

NFL teams were able to negotiate with undrafted free agents on Monday, but they couldn't sign until today. The Texans are in the process of signing their undrafted free agents.

Toliver, 6-5, 203, caught five passes for 112 passes and three touchdowns in LSU's 41-24 victory over Texas A&M in the Cotton Bowl.

The Texans agreed with two other receivers, Lestar Jean (Florida Atlantic) and Jeff Maehl (Oregon).

Other offensive players agreeing to terms were fullback Justin Bartlett (Montana-Carroll), guard Howard Bargieri (Rutgers), fullback Zac Pauga (Colorado State), tackle Peter Hendrickson (Tulane) and tackle Darius Morris (Temple).

The Texans also agreed with nine defensive players: linebacker Mister Alexander (Florida State), linebacker Bryan Braman (West Texas A&M), linebacker Steve Friday (Virginia Tech), end Zane Parr (Virginia), end John Graves (Virginia Tech), cornerback Darian Hagan (California), cornerback Jason Teague (TCU), safety Maurice Rolle (Louisiana-Lafayette) and tackle Adrian Taylor (Oklahoma).

The Texans also agreed with punter Brett Hartmann (Central Michigan).



Read more: http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/fb/texansfront/7670138.html#ixzz1TFG2sk7C

ArlingtonTexan
07-26-2011, 03:27 PM
The Texans have agreed to contract terms with 18 undrafted free agents, including receiver Terrence Toliver, the Hempstead native who played at LSU and was voted the Most Valuable Offensive Player in this year's Cotton Bowl.

NFL teams were able to negotiate with undrafted free agents on Monday, but they couldn't sign until today. The Texans are in the process of signing their undrafted free agents.

Toliver, 6-5, 203, caught five passes for 112 passes and three touchdowns in LSU's 41-24 victory over Texas A&M in the Cotton Bowl.

The Texans agreed with two other receivers, Lestar Jean (Florida Atlantic) and Jeff Maehl (Oregon).

Other offensive players agreeing to terms were fullback Justin Bartlett (Montana-Carroll), guard Howard Bargieri (Rutgers), fullback Zac Pauga (Colorado State), tackle Peter Hendrickson (Tulane) and tackle Darius Morris (Temple).

The Texans also agreed with nine defensive players: linebacker Mister Alexander (Florida State), linebacker Bryan Braman (West Texas A&M), linebacker Steve Friday (Virginia Tech), end Zane Parr (Virginia), end John Graves (Virginia Tech), cornerback Darian Hagan (California), cornerback Jason Teague (TCU), safety Maurice Rolle (Louisiana-Lafayette) and tackle Adrian Taylor (Oklahoma).

The Texans also agreed with punter Brett Hartmann (Central Michigan).



Read more: http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/fb/texansfront/7670138.html#ixzz1TFG2sk7C

b0ng
07-26-2011, 03:39 PM
Besides the recognized risk of shrooms, there have been several cases of group death due to simply accidentally mixing in mushrooms that were toxic in the production vat.

Sounds like more of a problem with people picking wild mushrooms than it does somebody who is growing them in a plastic bin from a spore print. I can't imagine finding any place that would sell poisonous mush prints, or even have them.

beerlover
07-26-2011, 04:10 PM
Guess you could say that Bryan Braman is a high ceiling guy who they feel is worth the risk :spin:

CloakNNNdagger
07-26-2011, 04:22 PM
Here is the key line in the whole matter to Coach Joe

That is impressive. I would still have to question if he can do this during on-field play. The results of these type of "contests" are sometimes very misleading in that they are products of unchallenged/unobstructed punting. When you have a barn full of bulls rushing you, technique and results can easily go right out the window. Hopefully, that is not the case with Hartman.

Dutchrudder
07-26-2011, 04:29 PM
Guess you could say that Bryan Braman is a high ceiling guy who they feel is worth the risk :spin:

Yeah man, and he's got all the mushrooms Super Mario could possibly need!



I'm happy we got Steven Friday! So happy I just wanna dance!

http://i465.photobucket.com/albums/rr14/themishkin/GIFs/RebeccaBlackFriday.gif

painekiller
07-26-2011, 05:12 PM
That is impressive. I would still have to question if he can do this during on-field play. The results of these type of "contests" are sometimes very misleading in that they are products of unchallenged/unobstructed punting. When you have a barn full of bulls rushing you, technique and results can easily go right out the window. Hopefully, that is not the case with Hartman.

I agree totally....

beerlover
07-26-2011, 05:26 PM
Kirkpatrick(TCU center last year) told me that the Texans contacted him earlier, too. Just throwing that out there, for whatever it is worth. I am starting to try to contact all the players I know that went un-drafted and ask them what is happening around the NFL right now! I will let you know anything else I hear. I make a lot of contacts by doing what I do.

I had to come back to this, if true I'm severely pissed. Kirkpatrick should have been a top priority undrafted free agent. He is more similar to Myers than anyone currently on the Texans roster so if Myers gets hurt I guess plug in Antoine Caldwell or (Wallace Cody?). I mean what were they doing these past three months post draft, how could they be too late?

TexansSeminole
07-26-2011, 10:25 PM
LB Mister Alexander is a tough mofo. He hits very hard and really is a big guy. Problem is he only started one year for FSU. Will he play inside or outside? He lined up on the outside quite a bit last year. We shall see.

Playoffs
07-26-2011, 11:12 PM
Six Undrafted Free Agents who I’ll be keeping a close eye on at camp
1. Terrence Toliver, WR, LSU: Toliver was rated as one of the top rated WRs in the nation coming out of Hempstead but his productivity at LSU never matched the hype. Toliver has great size and while he isn’t a burner, he does have good speed for his size. Some area scouts believe LSU’s poor QB play over the last few years helped to doom Toliver’s production and subsequent draft stock. I give Toliver a solid shot at coming out of training camp as one of the top 5 WRs on the roster.

2. Howard Barbierie, OG/C, Rutgers: He won’t be a guy that most of you will want to watch at open practice, but I’m very interested in seeing how Barberie performs. Barberie comes from a program (Rutgers) that has a history of cranking out well-schooled offensive linemen who work within the zone scheme and Barberie has experience at just about every position on the line. While Barberie won’t be starting anytime soon, he will be a legitimate contender for depth along the offensive line and a potential practice squad target.

3. Adrian Taylor, NT, Oklahoma: Like Toliver, Taylor was a much-heralded prospect when he landed at Oklahoma, but injuries including a broken ankle and an Achilles tear have taken their toll on Taylor. What Texans fans will like, however, is that Taylor has great strength and can fit the mold of a 2-gap, block-occupying NT who can help keep the inside LBs clean and flowing to plays. Taylor’s injury-riddled past will make it tough for him to make this team, but if he flashes in camp, he has a chance to earn a spot.

4. Jeff Maehl, WR, Oregon: Maehl had an outstanding season in the Oregon fast-break offense with 1,076 yards and 12 TDs. The problem for Maehl is that is a thin-framed 190 pounds and he has good quickness but average speed which is why he found himself undrafted. Maehl played on special teams his first two seasons at Oregon and will probably be called on to play on “teams” in the preseason. Maehl’s hands and ability to play in the slot make him very intriguing and he’s very quick out of his breaks. One area that will hurt him in a potential battle against David Anderson is that Anderson is a much grittier blocker who already has a reputation with this staff as being a tough player.

5. John Graves, DE, Virginia Tech: Graves is a little on the low-side of the spectrum when it comes to height and arm length teams look for out of 3-4 DEs, but Graves plays hard snap in and snap out and has a pretty good football IQ which helps. The Texans likely signed Graves because his potential as a penetrator and his work ethic. On the negative side, Graves isn’t as good against the run as you would like from your 3-4 DE and he isn’t going to be a plus pass rusher either. Graves will likely be fighting for a practice squad spot.

6. Steven Friday, OLB, Virginia Tech: Friday is undersized as a defensive end and lacks the ability to play in space as a 4-3 LB on the next level. So why is he on this list again? Friday is on this list because he has good quickness off the snap and can run pretty fast in a straight line for his size. Coaches can coach all the technique they want, but that speed off the edge can’t be coached and the Texans are hoping to find a diamond in the rough with Friday who is more athlete than football player.

http://blog.chron.com/fantasyfootball/2011/07/re-signing-rashad-butler-six-of-the-texans-undrafted-free-agents-who-im-most-interested-in-watching/

Clamp
07-27-2011, 08:05 PM
"Here’s a list of some of the reported – emphasis on reported, as they are not official – names. I’ll update this as reports more come in (NOTE: We reached 18 reported names as of 4:34 p.m. CT July 26, 2011)."

LB Mister Alexander, Florida State (Your Houston News)
G Howard Barbieri, Rutgers (FOX 26 Houston)
FB/TE Bubba Bartlett, Carroll College (Helena Independent Record)
LB Bryan Braman, West Texas A&M (NEPatriots Draft)
LB Steven Friday, Virginia Tech (FOX 26 Houston)
DE John Graves, Virginia Tech (FOX 26 Houston)
CB Darian Hagan, Cal (FOX 26 Houston)
P Brett Hartmann, Central Michigan (FOX 26 Houston)
T Pete Hendrickson, Tulane (NEPatriots Draft)
WR Lester Jean, Florida Atlantic (Lance Zierlein)
WR Jeff Maehl, Oregon (NEPatriots Draft)
T Darius Morris, Temple (FOX 26 Houston)
LB Zane Parr, Virginia (Bill Jones, CBS)
FB Zac Pauga, Colorado State (Denver Post)
S Maurice Rolle, Louisiana-Lafayette (FOX 26 Houston)
DT Adrian Taylor, Oklahoma (Crimson and Cream Machine)
CB Jason Teague, Texas Christian (FOX 26 Houston)
WR Terrance Tolliver, LSU (Lance Zierlein


Any one see any potential Bradys, Fosters, or Colstons on the list? Anyone you had heard about before the draft that didnt get picked?

Clamp
07-27-2011, 08:07 PM
Lightning never strikes the same place twice but if you do your homework then you have a chance to predict where it might strike again.

Ryan
07-27-2011, 08:07 PM
Everyone really seems to be high on Tolliver from what i've read.

ArlingtonTexan
07-27-2011, 08:08 PM
There is a thread which discusses this issue on the front page...I am going to merge you to that.

Clamp
07-27-2011, 08:11 PM
There is a thread which discusses this issue on the front page...I am going to merge you to that.

Oops, sorry about that.

Doppelganger
07-27-2011, 08:12 PM
"Here’s a list of some of the reported – emphasis on reported, as they are not official – names. I’ll update this as reports more come in (NOTE: We reached 18 reported names as of 4:34 p.m. CT)."

LB Mister Alexander, Florida State (Your Houston News)
G Howard Barbieri, Rutgers (FOX 26 Houston)
FB/TE Bubba Bartlett, Carroll College (Helena Independent Record)
LB Bryan Braman, West Texas A&M (NEPatriots Draft)
LB Steven Friday, Virginia Tech (FOX 26 Houston)
DE John Graves, Virginia Tech (FOX 26 Houston)
CB Darian Hagan, Cal (FOX 26 Houston)
P Brett Hartmann, Central Michigan (FOX 26 Houston)
T Pete Hendrickson, Tulane (NEPatriots Draft)
WR Lester Jean, Florida Atlantic (Lance Zierlein)
WR Jeff Maehl, Oregon (NEPatriots Draft)
T Darius Morris, Temple (FOX 26 Houston)
LB Zane Parr, Virginia (Bill Jones, CBS)
FB Zac Pauga, Colorado State (Denver Post)
S Maurice Rolle, Louisiana-Lafayette (FOX 26 Houston)
DT Adrian Taylor, Oklahoma (Crimson and Cream Machine)
CB Jason Teague, Texas Christian (FOX 26 Houston)
WR Terrance Tolliver, LSU (Lance Zierlein


Any one see any potential Bradys, Fosters, or Colstons on the list? Anyone you had heard about before the draft that didnt get picked?

Friday could be a sleeper OLB. Will need to win a spot on the special teams or be a PS guy.

Maehl is a solid WR prospect. Knock on him is speed and he may be a product of a spread system. Ceiling is very good slot receiver.

Taylor projects as a solid rotational DE, Was injured last year, not sure if he is fully healthy yet. May be IRed.

Tolliver is the WR prospect I prefer. Bigger than Maehel his ceiling is potential #2 WR.

TexansSeminole
07-27-2011, 10:29 PM
Friday could be a sleeper OLB. Will need to win a spot on the special teams or be a PS guy.

Maehl is a solid WR prospect. Knock on him is speed and he may be a product of a spread system. Ceiling is very good slot receiver.

Taylor projects as a solid rotational DE, Was injured last year, not sure if he is fully healthy yet. May be IRed.

Tolliver is the WR prospect I prefer. Bigger than Maehel his ceiling is potential #2 WR.

Don't understimate Lester Jean from FAU.

Also, Mister Alexander has a shot to compete for a spot inside for us based on our roster.

Rey
07-28-2011, 12:23 AM
I think Teague from tcu will turn some heads. Tall rangy and athletic corner. Could probably make a damn good Fs.

76Texan
07-28-2011, 12:45 AM
Don't understimate Lester Jean from FAU.


Jean vs. Aaron Williams



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JS-NXOMdF04&feature=related


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mihM5auuXx0&feature=related

76Texan
07-28-2011, 12:59 AM
Friday could be a sleeper OLB. Will need to win a spot on the special teams or be a PS guy.

Tolliver is the WR prospect I prefer. Bigger than Maehel his ceiling is potential #2 WR.

Friday is an undersized 4-3 DE (he played around (240-245).
Looks like he had problem gaining weight until this past year (and played 43 LB before this year).

He looks pretty weak on the line as a DE.
He makes play due solely to speed and quickness.

The move to 34 OLB should be good for him, but if Friday wants to play on Sunday, he needs a lot of work. Best bet is PS, but he looks to have good potential.

Tolliver seems like a good possession receiver.
Lots of short route (LSU was a run team first and rotated two QBs).
I like him; I think he fits with the WCO the Texans run.

The Pencil Neck
07-28-2011, 01:43 AM
Jean vs. Aaron Williams



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JS-NXOMdF04&feature=related


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mihM5auuXx0&feature=related

Lestar Jean Highlights (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7w3iWbKxEX4&feature=related)

Corrosion
07-28-2011, 02:14 AM
Lestar Jean Highlights (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7w3iWbKxEX4&feature=related)

After watching those highlights , Im shocked that he went undrafted - Crisp route running very good hands and despite a 4.59 40 plays much faster.


I didnt see the kid during the season ..... whats the knock on him ?

The Pencil Neck
07-28-2011, 09:15 AM
After watching those highlights , Im shocked that he went undrafted - Crisp route running very good hands and despite a 4.59 40 plays much faster.


I didnt see the kid during the season ..... whats the knock on him ?

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1254113

Strengths: Prototypically-sized for the position, tall with solid upper-body build. Tough for defensive backs to bring down by themselves, gives good effort to run through arm tackles and stays upright after big hits over the middle. Thrown quick screens to utilize his size and quick cuts for the big plays. Uses body to shield defenders on slants and in-routes. Deep threat with his size and long strides, capable of tracking throws over either shoulder (or even over his head). Displays some foot quickness to separate from corners coming out of routes, plants his foot to have effective double-moves. Adept at snatching high passes from the air using height and excellent vertical leap. Extends arm at last second to get separation downfield. Gives effort as a blocker, has the size to sustain against bigger defenders.

Weaknesses: One-speed strider without a burst in the open field. Takes time to get off the line when pressed, hesitates and runs around defender, does not uses his hands well. Not especially elusive after the catch. Inconsistent hands, making acrobatic grabs then dropping catchable balls when extending his hands outside his frame and letting too many passes into his body.


The thing is... as good as this kid looks, Toliver looks even better.

We could see a shakeup in our WR corps.

thunderkyss
07-28-2011, 09:43 AM
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1254113


The thing is... as good as this kid looks, Toliver looks even better.

We could see a shakeup in our WR corps.

I haven't seen Tolliver, but this kid reminds me of Colston.

beerlover
07-28-2011, 09:45 AM
I haven't seen Tolliver, but this kid reminds me of Colston.

more like Jacoby than Colston.

Dutchrudder
07-28-2011, 09:59 AM
I saw Tolliver rated as high as a 3rd round pick this offseason. He certainly has talent, I just hope they can turn him into something great. A #2 WR would be a nice find from an UDFA.

76Texan
07-28-2011, 10:17 AM
After watching those highlights , Im shocked that he went undrafted - Crisp route running very good hands and despite a 4.59 40 plays much faster.


I didnt see the kid during the season ..... whats the knock on him ?

For one, it's the competition.
The Sunbelt isn't screaming with talents.

Secondly, I have a game tape of him against Michigan St. (second week of the season) in which he looks just like what he was listed at 6'3-195lbs.
He was reported to run right around 4.5 at that weight.

He looks much bigger at the combine (as he checked in at 215 lbs), but then his speed dropped to around 4.6

A guy who makes his living with over-the-shoulder catch needs to be fast in order to get ahead of the defender at the next level.

Also, in the Mich. St game, there was one play in which he ran a skinny post.
The safety was nowhere near (I have to go back and see why); Jean can see the ball the whole way but didn't adjust to the ball.
He kept going straight while the ball was thrown to the inside.
(That was as clear a TD as could ever have been.)
Basically, I read that his route running is still not very crisp.

If he can improve that and get his speed back up at the current weight (215), we might have found a gem.

76Texan
07-28-2011, 11:07 AM
Jeff Maehl looks like a smart route-running receiver.
He seems to understand what the defense is trying to do and run his route accordingly.

Looks at his 81-yd catch vs Auburn.
In a way, it was similar to the Jabar Gaffney's catch.
The defense was in quarter just the same.
As soon as he saw the inside defender (the safety) squat to play the run and reverse, he turned quickly to the inside (behind the safety).
He wasn't a fast receiver; he just knew how to beat the defense.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xyAkXtdilk&feature=related


On the 2-pt conversion; he understood that the defense would chase the run/pass action flow to the outside.
He patiently waited for the LB/safety to clear, then baited the last defender into chasing outside as well (with a stick move.)
Only then did he turned inside to get wide open.
That was very smart route running!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAfwN5aMOnI

The Pencil Neck
07-28-2011, 11:11 AM
Some good, young WRs.

Dutchrudder
07-28-2011, 11:19 AM
NFL.com has a list of each team's UDFA signings here:

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d820fa765/article/teambyteam-undrafted-freeagent-signings

Some teams appear to be WAY behind everyone, and others have signed a lot. The Texans look like they are in the top 5 by number of agreements. The Jags look like they signed about 24. The Bengals, Bucs, Giants and Redskins have only 2 or less so far.



Houston Texans

Mister Alexander, LB, Florida State; Howard Barbieri, G, Rutgers; Justin Bartlett, FB, Carroll (Montana); Bryan Braman, LB, West Texas A&M Steven Friday, LB, Virginia Tech; John Graves, DE, Virginia Tech; Darian Hagan, CB, California; Brett Hartmann, P, Central Michigan; Peter Hendrickson, OT, Tulane; Lestar Jean, WR, Florida Atlantic; Jeff Maehl, WR, Oregon; Darius Morris, OT, Temple; Zane Parr, DE, Virginia; Zac Pauga, FB, Colorado State; Maurice Rolle, S, Louisiana-Lafayette; Adrian Taylor, DT, Oklahoma; Jason Teague, CB, TCU; Terrence Toliver, WR, LSU

The1ApplePie
07-28-2011, 11:39 AM
Jeff Maehl looks like a smart route-running receiver.
He seems to understand what the defense is trying to do and run his route accordingly.

Looks at his 81-yd catch vs Auburn.
In a way, it was similar to the Jabar Gaffney's catch.
The defense was in quarter just the same.
As soon as he saw the inside defender (the safety) squat to play the run and reverse, he turned quickly to the inside (behind the safety).
He wasn't a fast receiver; he just knew how to beat the defense.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xyAkXtdilk&feature=related


On the 2-pt conversion; he understood that the defense would chase the run/pass action flow to the outside.
He patiently waited for the LB/safety to clear, then baited the last defender into chasing outside as well (with a stick move.)
Only then did he turned inside to get wide open.
That was very smart route running!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAfwN5aMOnI

I had to watch Maehl kill my Trojans every year.

Kid will beast out of the slot

Ole Miss Texan
07-28-2011, 11:40 AM
I had to watch Maehl kill my Trojans every year.

Kid will beast out of the slot

Agreed. Davis is already gone. Could Anderson be next?

TimeKiller
07-28-2011, 03:09 PM
The UDFA class seems to be particularly strong. Not that you can honestly hope for a league leading rusher type every season but....there are some cases to be made. WR seems to have been a point of emphasis but there are a few quality athletes (if nothing else) on defense too. Gets the check mark from me. Get these draftees in too and most of the offseason's work will be remarkably well done. Not going for the big FA acquisition might be a mistake but everything else seems to have set the Texans up for a good season.

76Texan
07-28-2011, 03:17 PM
Agreed. Davis is already gone. Could Anderson be next?

You called it!

TexansSeminole
07-29-2011, 12:57 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdf3duc4XPQ&hd=1

That's why they call him MISTER Alexander.