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El Tejano
07-20-2011, 10:35 AM
There is a big debate on if we should keep Leach or not keep him going on right now.

I say we do what we can to keep him and I keep pointing towards the effectiveness Lorenzo Neal had for Tenn and San Diego, even though he was not really a skill position player.

Right now the feeling for those who appose keeping Leach is that they would let him go if it meant being able to get a CB like Namdi Asomouagh (sp) because we have a player who currently plays TE and has some snaps as FB in James Casey.

I've pointed out that both Tenn and SD had to settle for Wycheck and Hester to take care of the duties left void by Neal's departure and both Eddie and LT began to show less and less production.

I was wondering if any of you Pre-Vince Young Titan fans who are reading this can chime in on what the difference was for Tenn when Neal left the Titans.

toronto
07-20-2011, 10:51 AM
There is a big debate on if we should keep Leach or not keep him going on right now.

I say we do what we can to keep him and I keep pointing towards the effectiveness Lorenzo Neal had for Tenn and San Diego, even though he was not really a skill position player.

Right now the feeling for those who appose keeping Leach is that they would let him go if it meant being able to get a CB like Namdi Asomouagh (sp) because we have a player who currently plays TE and has some snaps as FB in James Casey.

I've pointed out that both Tenn and SD had to settle for Wycheck and Hester to take care of the duties left void by Neal's departure and both Eddie and LT began to show less and less production.

I was wondering if any of you Pre-Vince Young Titan fans who are reading this can chime in on what the difference was for Tenn when Neal left the Titans.

I may get slammed by other Titan fans, but I never thought Neal was 'all that.'

From 1996-2000 (his best years by far) his best year on YPC was 4.1. That was his BEST. He also carried the ball a minimum of 320 times each season, peaking with over 400 in 2000. In another telling stat, his longest run, outside his rookie season, was 40 yards. In 5 seasons, the best he could do was bust out a 40 yarder.

So that leads to one of four conclusions.

1) George was overrated.
2) The offensive line, considered by most pundits to be one of the NFL's best, was overrated....
3) The playcalling was easy to defend against.
4) The fullback wasn't that good a lead blocker.

For me, I always considered George a good leader and solid player, but felt he was always overrated. The Press and players go ga-ga over RBs that bury their head and takle on defenders like he did.

I certainly never thought the o-line was overrated. Runyan, Matthews, Hopkins et al was a terrific line that always won the battles in the trenches, except a key playoff game in 2000.

Neal was a fullback for just two of those seasons, so IMO, Neal is not really the 'story' as it relates to George.

When the team hit a flat spot after that 2000 season, injuries and the cap started catching up to the team. George himself was hurt with a high ankle sprain and I can recall at least 7 or 8 players that ended up on IR that season.

That's my take, after 10 years the memories start getting a tad fuzzy. Funny, I can remember the damn Mike Renfro play like it was yesterday though and I was only 7 when that happened.

El Tejano
07-20-2011, 11:39 AM
I may get slammed by other Titan fans, but I never thought Neal was 'all that.'

From 1996-2000 (his best years by far) his best year on YPC was 4.1. That was his BEST. He also carried the ball a minimum of 320 times each season, peaking with over 400 in 2000. In another telling stat, his longest run, outside his rookie season, was 40 yards. In 5 seasons, the best he could do was bust out a 40 yarder.

So that leads to one of four conclusions.

1) George was overrated.
2) The offensive line, considered by most pundits to be one of the NFL's best, was overrated....
3) The playcalling was easy to defend against.
4) The fullback wasn't that good a lead blocker.

For me, I always considered George a good leader and solid player, but felt he was always overrated. The Press and players go ga-ga over RBs that bury their head and takle on defenders like he did.

I certainly never thought the o-line was overrated. Runyan, Matthews, Hopkins et al was a terrific line that always won the battles in the trenches, except a key playoff game in 2000.

Neal was a fullback for just two of those seasons, so IMO, Neal is not really the 'story' as it relates to George.

When the team hit a flat spot after that 2000 season, injuries and the cap started catching up to the team. George himself was hurt with a high ankle sprain and I can recall at least 7 or 8 players that ended up on IR that season.

That's my take, after 10 years the memories start getting a tad fuzzy. Funny, I can remember the damn Mike Renfro play like it was yesterday though and I was only 7 when that happened.

Thanks. And I was 3 when the Renfro thing happened and I too remember it like yesterday. Still living with it to this day.

That 2000 season that you speak of though, the Titans had the best record in the NFL if I recall for a good majority of the season before Baltimore began their run. Eddie was there for all of that season and even scored a rushing TD against Baltimore in that key playoff game. It was the following year that Neal was gone that Eddie got hurt more and often and the Titans never got back to that level offensively again for a while.

Yvette
07-27-2011, 03:02 PM
I may get slammed by other Titan fans, but I never thought Neal was 'all that.'
I used to think he was, until Fisher mentioned the low percentage of downs he played with EG, and they weren't all positive yards either. It was something ridiculous like 15%. He was financially expendable from that perspective, but EG paid a different price.

b0ng
07-30-2011, 11:05 PM
Same thing happened to LdT. Broke records, MVP, rusher of the century blah blah blah, Lorenzo Neal leaves to go to. . . the Ravens? And I think he was kinda done at that point, but then again, LdT was never the same either after Neal left either.