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El Tejano
06-20-2011, 12:54 PM
The team you have is good and if you sign those guys all you will be doing is increasing your jersey sales and PSLs.

Plus we as the fans who have supported your team for so long don't really like them. They don't increase our chance of winning with the guys you brought us. If you don't sign them, you will be satisfying everyone of us because we just knew in our heart of hearts that you would LISTEN TO THE FANS AND YOU WOULD BE MAKING US RIGHT. WE KNOW YOU ARE AN OWNER THAT LETS US FANS DICTATE WHAT YOU DO. SO PLEASE BOB, DON'T SIGN THESE GUYS!!!!

LISTEN TO OUR PLEA BOB!!! MAKE US RIGHT BOB!!!! WE KNOW YOU NEVER LET US DOWN!!!!



For those who are unaware, I'm the person who started the "Mario, You Suck" threads and Mario always gets sacks the next game!

rarazz00
06-20-2011, 01:08 PM
I guess a little reverse psychology doesn't hurt....we would be bad ass and maybe even relevant with the addition of Namdi and our defense should flourish...it damn sure will be better than it was!...though thats the defensive phase addressed...now 'specials' is the next phase...Trindon Holliday?...Jacoby Jones?...Steve Slaton?...Derick Anderson?....what to do?:thinking:

Norg
06-20-2011, 01:32 PM
i dont really care if we get ASO hes the big name that will come with a big price tag

i just think we need any good Vet CB why do yall guyz always want the top projected Free agent ???

with the price of ASO we could prob get Two Veteran CB instead

Allstar
06-20-2011, 02:03 PM
Aso can play man with no help. Aso shuts down half the field. He's in his prime and the only compensation it would take to get him is money. He does things that allows us freedom with exotic packages that we couldn't do with any other CB.

czarleon
06-20-2011, 02:34 PM
Nnamdi is to CB as Andre is to WR. There is NO reason to not make a serious effort to sign him. This isn't like Dunta, who is a great CB, this is having the option of signing the BEST at what he does in the prime of his career with no penalty other than the paycheck.

HoustonFrog
06-20-2011, 03:30 PM
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/peter_king/06/19/mmqb/3.html

The five reasons Bob McNair and the Houston Texans must go after Nnamdi Asomugha, and must go after him hard, whenever free agency opens:

1. Houston allowed a league-high 4,499 yards passing last year.

2. Houston allowed a ridiculous 8.22 yards per pass attempt. Tom Brady and Peyton Manning, combined, averaged 8.03.

3. Glover Quin and Kareem Jackson, the nominal starting corners, have five interceptions in 44 career games between them. The interception is a shaky and fairly meaningless stat, but suffice it to say that neither Quin nor Jackson is a shutdown corner. The Texans allowed foes to complete 64.7 percent of their throws last year, four percentage points worse than the secondary-challenged Browns.

4. A team with Mario Williams and Brian Cushing pressuring the pocket should not be sacking the quarterback an average of 1.9 times a game, which Houston did last year. Wade Phillips, with his pressure packages in the new 3-4, is going to need better coverage in the back end. Asomugha and Revis are the best cover corners in football, and Asomugha is the rarest of the rare -- a truly top cornerback, available for no compensation except money. It's going to be a big paycheck, but it doesn't cost a draft choice or a player.

5. Bob McNair paid $700 million for the Texans and chipped in much of the $425 million it cost to build Reliant Stadium for the team to play in. The one thing standing in the way of being truly competitive at a high NFL level is a significant upgrade on defense. Since the dawn of free agency, only one player, Reggie White, has been a better prize on the free-agent market than Asomugha. You cannot tell me that he wouldn't be worth $18 million a year to employ. I will not buy it.


Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/peter_king/06/19/mmqb/index.html#ixzz1PqmACAOK

Hervoyel
06-20-2011, 03:53 PM
If the Texans don't make a serious effort to sign Aso then in my opinion the Texans haven't made a serious effort to be a winning football team and that will say everything I need to hear about them. This isn't something you miscalculate or "should have tried harder to do" after the fact. If they can't see what adding this man to a football team does then they're nothing less than a lost cause.

Trying and failing I can accept. Making no effort, or some sort of token effort to get him though would be an insult to everyone who ever spent a dime on anything related to this team.

Carr Bombed
06-20-2011, 03:56 PM
Nnamdi is to CB as Andre is to WR. There is NO reason to not make a serious effort to sign him. This isn't like Dunta, who is a great CB, this is having the option of signing the BEST at what he does in the prime of his career with no penalty other than the paycheck.

Since when did Dunta become a great CB?

gary
06-20-2011, 03:59 PM
Let's define great here.

dalemurphy
06-20-2011, 04:05 PM
If the Texans don't make a serious effort to sign Aso then in my opinion the Texans haven't made a serious effort to be a winning football team and that will say everything I need to hear about them. This isn't something you miscalculate or "should have tried harder to do" after the fact. If they can't see what adding this man to a football team does then they're nothing less than a lost cause.

Trying and failing I can accept. Making no effort, or some sort of token effort to get him though would be an insult to everyone who ever spent a dime on anything related to this team.

I'd rather have J. Joseph or Brandon Carr plus $4+ million extra cap room the next 5 or 6 years... Or, Brent Grimes/Richard Marshall/Antonio Cromartie/Chris Carr/etc... and an extra $6 million or more in cap room.

silvrhand
06-20-2011, 04:07 PM
Personally,

I'd rather spend about 4-8 millon on a corner, and 4-8 millon on a free safety, sorry we need safety help just as bad if not worse as we do corner help.

18 million to plug one hole is gonna be a tough pill to swallow for me.

gary
06-20-2011, 04:15 PM
I am more in the group of signing one or two good CB's rather than just one All Pro caliber CB because the Texans need so much assistance on defense.

IBleedTexans
06-20-2011, 04:29 PM
I am more in the group of signing one or two good CB's rather than just one All Pro caliber CB because the Texans need so much assistance on defense.

Just think about it , if aso take one whole side of the field , then we could have glover helping whoever they choose to put in cb #2. Whether it be KJ or Jason Allen . It would be like having 2 corners on the right side. Our defense would sound pretty sick with both good pass coverage and good pass rush. I don't know about you guys but that sure sounds like playoff berth to me.

Hervoyel
06-20-2011, 04:30 PM
I'd rather have J. Joseph or Brandon Carr plus $4+ million extra cap room the next 5 or 6 years... Or, Brent Grimes/Richard Marshall/Antonio Cromartie/Chris Carr/etc... and an extra $6 million or more in cap room.

There are very few free agent deals out there that could be characterized as being a "sure thing". In fact there probably aren't any at all. Aso is as close to one as I've ever seen. I see a bunch of guys on your list who look to have as much chance of being our next "Jacques Reeves" as they do to locking down the position. We aren't exactly the luckiest team to ever grace the NFL so good luck with that. At least you'll have another $4-$6 million in cap room to sign those mid-season cast-offs you'll be depending on.

gary
06-20-2011, 04:38 PM
Just think about it , if aso take one whole side of the field , then we could have glover helping whoever they choose to put in cb #2. Whether it be KJ or Jason Allen . It would be like having 2 corners on the right side. Our defense would sound pretty sick with both good pass coverage and good pass rush. I don't know about you guys but that sure sounds like playoff berth to me.I'd take Jason Allen and ASO in a heart beat but as long as Gary Kubiak is coach I am not going to ever be sure about a playoff berth.

Trap_Star
06-20-2011, 04:53 PM
Bob, pay no attention to this thread. If you really want to know what to do then me and you should get together soon. We'll take one of your best luxury cars, pick up a couple of hookers, get some blow...man, me and you could knock out a gameplan for this franchise so easily. PM when you're ready.

gary
06-20-2011, 05:03 PM
I keep on forgetting about Allen who's good enough to be paired with probably the best CB in the NFL if it is not Reevis.

czarleon
06-20-2011, 05:44 PM
Since when did Dunta become a great CB?

When Dunta was here I would classify him as a top 10 CB. Now last year he tried to put himself into a coma and that definately hurt his production, but I would still say Dunta is a pretty dang good CB, but maybe great was a bit too complimentary.

CloakNNNdagger
06-20-2011, 06:03 PM
When Dunta was here I would classify him as a top 10 CB. Now last year he tried to put himself into a coma and that definately hurt his production, but I would still say Dunta is a pretty dang good CB, but maybe great was a bit too complimentary.


He could have only been considered a very adequate CB near the beginning of his career. Do you remember the little question of would he ever totally come back, even to that performance level, from his injury?

PapaL
06-20-2011, 06:33 PM
For TheRealJoker to get any aso, we're gonna need Aso on the field.

Norg
06-20-2011, 06:37 PM
u know i dont worry about this stuff they dont pay me to scout talent if we get ASO cool but sadly the texans dont have a good track record of picking the right Free agents not the worst but deff not the best

TBO im sure our front office and coaches have gone over the Free agent landscape this year a zillion timed map dat shit graphed dat shit and all that

once FA starts then they will implament there plan like they do every year

so no use overthinking this

rarazz00
06-20-2011, 07:23 PM
Sign him BOB

2slik4u
06-20-2011, 08:25 PM
If the Texans don't make a serious effort to sign Aso then in my opinion the Texans haven't made a serious effort to be a winning football team and that will say everything I need to hear about them. This isn't something you miscalculate or "should have tried harder to do" after the fact. If they can't see what adding this man to a football team does then they're nothing less than a lost cause.

Trying and failing I can accept. Making no effort, or some sort of token effort to get him though would be an insult to everyone who ever spent a dime on anything related to this team.

I agree with you 100% but lets be real here Herv...

Anything short of getting him and you will be mad. If its between us and Dallas and Jerrah wins (strictly hypothetical), most of you guys will yell about how Bob didnt open his check book enough and how they were just trying to show the fans that they just wanted us to know that they were trying and really had no intention of getting him. Thats the truth, no hard feelings but if this doesnt sum you up, it sums many of the people on this board up.

Sorry if this came across offensive because I dont mean to be. Its just how I see things on this little message board from time to time...

badboy
06-20-2011, 09:26 PM
I'd rather have J. Joseph or Brandon Carr plus $4+ million extra cap room the next 5 or 6 years... Or, Brent Grimes/Richard Marshall/Antonio Cromartie/Chris Carr/etc... and an extra $6 million or more in cap room.Unless you can identify who you are going to go after with the extra cap space it is just a waste of money sitting in the bank. Asomugha is arguably the best corner in NFL, not the best FA CB but the best at position. He has no injury history and is in his prime, none of the other corners meet two let alone three of these. He is way better than his closest FA corner competition. He does not just fill a starter's role but locks it down for next 3 probably four years. He also fills a hole on our roster on one of the worst defenses in NFL.

I don't want two sorta good players when I can get the best. He would also be a statement to team, coaches, opponents and importantly the fans, from McNair, especially coming off a lockout.

gary
06-20-2011, 09:31 PM
It would totally stink if a team like the Lions outbid Houston for ASO or Cromartie.

IBleedTexans
06-21-2011, 08:16 AM
It would totally stink if a team like the Lions outbid Houston for ASO or Cromartie.

It would be awesome If we got out bid for Cromartie. Just as long as our true target is aso and we land him!

IDEXAN
06-21-2011, 09:13 AM
i dont really care if we get ASO hes the big name that will come with a big price tag

i just think we need any good Vet CB why do yall guyz always want the top projected Free agent ???

with the price of ASO we could prob get Two Veteran CB insteadWell said. I mean afterall, we aren't just "one player" away on this defense from fielding a strong unit, so lets use those bucks to get multiple players who can help us, perhaps even multiple defensive starters, but atleast a single solid vet CB to start and lead the secondary.
And don't forget, having those all-important edge-rushers for our 3-4 is still an unknown since the players we are looking to most, Mario and Barwin, are still largely untested @ OLB ?

dalemurphy
06-21-2011, 09:45 AM
Well said. I mean afterall, we aren't just "one player" away on this defense from fielding a strong unit, so lets use those bucks to get multiple players who can help us, perhaps even multiple defensive starters, but atleast a single solid vet CB to start and lead the secondary.
And don't forget, having those all-important edge-rushers for our 3-4 is still an unknown since the players we are looking to most, Mario and Barwin, are still largely untested @ OLB ?

Perhaps it isn't sane, but I have total confidence in Barwin's ability to excel in the 3-4. I'll be shocked if he enters the season healthy and is not a dominant force on the defense: 10+ sacks... and that's despite the fact that the coaches drafted Brooks Reed as direct competition with him.

Brandon420tx
06-21-2011, 09:46 AM
Jonathen Joseph is going to get his market value then re-sign with Cinci for a little over that

TheCD
06-21-2011, 09:47 AM
The Texans allowed foes to complete 64.7 percent of their throws last year


Of all the stats I've seen regarding how bad our secondary was last year, nothing really put it in perspective like that. Just wow...:roast:

IDEXAN
06-21-2011, 10:12 AM
Perhaps it isn't sane, but I have total confidence in Barwin's ability to excel in the 3-4. I'll be shocked if he enters the season healthy and is not a dominant force on the defense: 10+ sacks... and that's despite the fact that the coaches drafted Brooks Reed as direct competition with him.

Actually I'm inclined to agree with you to a certain extent, as I feel that Mario is more of a question mark at OLB than Barwin ? Afterall we know that Barwin can effectively rush the QB in the NFL since he got 4 or 5 sacks his rookie year in a part-time role, and when coming out of Cinci he was projected as more of a 3-4 'backer than a down lineman. But when it comes to Barwin, I am most concerned about his complete recovery from last years very severe season-ending injury ?

VTexan
06-22-2011, 12:37 AM
Bob, pay no attention to this thread. If you really want to know what to do then me and you should get together soon. We'll take one of your best luxury cars, pick up a couple of hookers, get some blow...man, me and you could knock out a gameplan for this franchise so easily. PM when you're ready.

must.spread..

HJam72
06-22-2011, 02:19 AM
Perhaps it isn't sane, but I have total confidence in Barwin's ability to excel in the 3-4. I'll be shocked if he enters the season healthy and is not a dominant force on the defense: 10+ sacks... and that's despite the fact that the coaches drafted Brooks Reed as direct competition with him.

If we got Aso, that number could grow...