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Bipolar The Titan
05-15-2011, 12:24 PM
I tried searching the forums, surprisingly, I didn't find much, but I'm wondering how many of you guys would be interested in taking Vince Young on. I'd like to see him land in Houston quite honestly. He kind of has a nice Trojan horse quality about him.... but after all you've seen, does anyone here want VY for the Texans, even as a #2?

DBCooper
05-15-2011, 12:25 PM
I tried searching the forums, surprisingly, I didn't find much, but I'm wondering how many of you guys would be interested in taking Vince Young on. I'd like to see him land in Houston quite honestly. He kind of has a nice Trojan horse quality about him.... but after all you've seen, does anyone here want VY for the Texans, even as a #2?

I'd love to see him start for the Titans!

Bipolar The Titan
05-15-2011, 12:29 PM
I'd love to see him start for the Titans!

lol. I bet you would!

OzzO
05-15-2011, 12:34 PM
I'd love to see him start for the Titans!

seconded. If he could throw his equipment into the stands after a meltdown of not being recognized as the chosen one, that'd be nice as well.

Pollardized
05-15-2011, 12:40 PM
http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp97/Kentrinspuppet/sausagefest.jpg

Wolf6151
05-15-2011, 01:19 PM
Can Vince punt, Turk is getting old and needs replacing...

ESAD2-14
05-15-2011, 01:28 PM
I tried searching the forums, surprisingly, I didn't find much, but I'm wondering how many of you guys would be interested in taking Vince Young on. I'd like to see him land in Houston quite honestly. He kind of has a nice Trojan horse quality about him.... but after all you've seen, does anyone here want VY for the Texans, even as a #2?

Been awhile, good to see you back.

Might check any of the Austin sports web sites, their has to be a VY love fest going on somewhere around those parts.

After his on the field conduct I personally would not want him anywhere near the Texans even if all he does is just whine, I mean win.

Bipolar The Titan
05-15-2011, 01:43 PM
After his on the field conduct I personally would not want him anywhere near...
exactly. I've debated too many times with Titan fans who would actually like to see him return in 2011 about the significance of that incident and the ensuing verbal confrontation. It's affirming to see that even in a town like Houston, VY is not in demand.

Sincerely, I would like to hear from anyone who actually would like to take a flyer on VY. Apart from that, I'd also like to see the Eagles take VY. If Vick were to go down, which is likely, I'd love to see how VY responds to the "brotherly love" of Philadelphia. Vince thought Nashville fans were tough on him. Philadelphia fans are just plain hostile!

infantrycak
05-15-2011, 01:48 PM
Absolutely none. On a 1-10 scale, -10.

Anti-Staubach. Promises a lot and delivers nothing.

Bipolar The Titan
05-15-2011, 01:55 PM
Absolutely none. On a 1-10 scale, -10.

Anti-Staubach. Promises a lot and delivers nothing.

Wow. That's a strong feeling but can you honestly tell me your feelings about Vince Young when the Texans were on the clock with the number 1 pick overall? History is the best judge and CLEARLY Williams was the best player available, hindsight 20/20, but how did you feel about VY back in April 2006?

badboy
05-15-2011, 01:55 PM
Absolutely none. On a 1-10 scale, -10.

Anti-Staubach. Promises a lot and delivers nothing.No! I was his fan while @ UT and loved the game @ Rose Bowl but imo he is a prima donna with minimal skills that easily over come by his attitude.

TEXANRED
05-15-2011, 02:06 PM
No.

Honoring Earl 34
05-15-2011, 02:08 PM
We have some folks who lobby for him ( not on here ) and all they care about is he's from here . You bring in VY and Matt can throw 4 tds and 550 yds but get sacked on a 3rd and 7 because he doesn't scramble well and they'll scream for VY .

rush2112mn
05-15-2011, 02:31 PM
I think Vince needs a attitude adjustment. He needs to swallow his pride and be content with a backup role this year. He says he wants to start....I think he needs some good coaching and work on his position. Maybe he can compete for a starting job in the future....but no at this point.....

gtexan02
05-15-2011, 02:42 PM
He does have some success in one problem Houston is having...getting coaches fired :D

SheTexan
05-15-2011, 02:46 PM
absolutely none. On a 1-10 scale, -10.

Anti-staubach. Promises a lot and delivers nothing.

ditto!!!!

Mr. White
05-15-2011, 02:49 PM
I'll always love Vince the Longhorn.

Vince the Pro....not so much. Dude's got entitlement issues that would only get worse if he were playing in Houston.

Not to mention the drama that would come with him. If he were a backup, then there would be riots in the stands every time Schaub throws an interception.

CloakNNNdagger
05-15-2011, 02:52 PM
exactly. I've debated too many times with Titan fans who would actually like to see him return in 2011 about the significance of that incident and the ensuing verbal confrontation. It's affirming to see that even in a town like Houston, VY is not in demand.

Sincerely, I would like to hear from anyone who actually would like to take a flyer on VY. Apart from that, I'd also like to see the Eagles take VY. If Vick were to go down, which is likely, I'd love to see how VY responds to the "brotherly love" of Philadelphia. Vince thought Nashville fans were tough on him. Philadelphia fans are just plain hostile!

There are certain things that a QB can "rehabilitate." A pattern of running out on a team isn't one of them.

CloakNNNdagger
05-15-2011, 03:02 PM
VY on one of his job interviews:

http://steliq.com/c/lm/a/a1/15480946_Vince-Young-Horns.jpg

Can you give me just one more chance........please?


NOT HERE IN HOUSTON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Lucky
05-15-2011, 03:26 PM
History is the best judge and CLEARLY Williams was the best player available, hindsight 20/20, but how did you feel about VY back in April 2006?
I didn't think Young would make it as a QB in the NFL. But that was based on his passing and ability to see the field as a passer. I never foresaw the problems Young had with Fisher. And I thought the Wonderlic score was overblown.

As many have said, this is the absolute wrong place for Young to resurrect his career. He needs to dump his entourage and enablers and go to a team with a good QB coach. If the Eagles trade Kolb, backing up Vick in Philly would make a lot of sense. Reid could definitely rehabilitate Young's career.

ArlingtonTexan
05-15-2011, 04:01 PM
If you think the distraction from the Vinceophiles will cause the end of the Smithiak era then there is some merit. Outside of that, no reason to even entertain the thought.

awtysst
05-15-2011, 05:42 PM
Vince Young needs to do what Michael Vick did when Vick joined the Eagles: humble himself. For years, the problem with Vick was that he was a run first, run second, throw third QB. He had a strong arm but little to no accuracy. When Vick got to the Eagles he was humble enough to take coaching. He learned to throw the ball and became a passer. Last season's success is directly related to his arm, not his legs.

Vince Young needs to realize he has to become a passer to have any longevity in football. If he can do that, then he will find a place in the league. If not, he is done. I would suggest he go to a place like New England and sit and learn behind Brady. Like Vick, he could come in for a WC play 2 or 3 times a game. Then the next year he can play in blowouts and showcase his talent.

DocBar
05-15-2011, 05:45 PM
Absolutely none. On a 1-10 scale, -10.

Anti-Staubach. Promises a lot and delivers nothing.I'm not a VY and nor do I want him here, but what is his record versus Schaubs? I bet VY's is higher. He may not be an NFL QB, but he does put up more W's than L's. That has to be among the list of considerations.

Bipolar The Titan
05-15-2011, 06:16 PM
I'm not a VY and nor do I want him here, but what is his record versus Schaubs? I bet VY's is higher. He may not be an NFL QB, but he does put up more W's than L's. That has to be among the list of considerations.

The Titans try to rely on defense and the running game and special teams to an extent. This inflates VY when viewed by w/l... I mean, Kerry Collins took Tennessee to 13-3 in 2008. Collins is not that good. Vince did make a wild scramble ftw in ot once upon a time but Tennessee also once settled for eight fg's in a win versus Houston too. That's A LOT of fg tries. I'm just saying a more effective offense moves the markers and scores td's.

I like the AV stat. It's interesting.
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/S/SchaMa00.htm
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/Y/YounVi00.htm

according to Approximate Value rankings Matt Schaub is 1437th overall since 1950 while Vince Young is 3061st overall since 1950. Matt Schaub is a passer. He plays the position well. It's unfortunate that he's had injury trouble since joining the Texans.

DocBar
05-15-2011, 06:26 PM
The Titans try to rely on defense and the running game and special teams to an extent. This inflates VY when viewed by w/l... I mean, Kerry Collins took Tennessee to 13-3 in 2008. Collins is not that good. Vince did make a wild scramble ftw in ot once upon a time but Tennessee also once settled for eight fg's in a win versus Houston too. That's A LOT of fg tries. I'm just saying a more effective offense moves the markers and scores td's.

I like the AV stat. It's interesting.
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/S/SchaMa00.htm
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/Y/YounVi00.htm

according to Approximate Value rankings Matt Schaub is 1437th overall since 1950 while Vince Young is 3061st overall since 1950. Matt Schaub is a passer. He plays the position well. It's unfortunate that he's had injury trouble since joining the Texans.He had injuroes, bt I hardly count that as injury problems.

Dutchrudder
05-15-2011, 06:37 PM
I'm not a VY and nor do I want him here, but what is his record versus Schaubs? I bet VY's is higher. He may not be an NFL QB, but he does put up more W's than L's. That has to be among the list of considerations.

Lol... Mark Sanchez has a better record than Schaub. I guess we should trade for him? Maybe Tony Romo? Or Jake Delhomme? Donovan McNabb?

SteveSlaton20
05-15-2011, 08:12 PM
reggie mcneal >>> vy !!!

b0ng
05-15-2011, 08:51 PM
From a pure fan perspective most of Houston would say no due to the small yet insufferable group of UT fans that would hound the radio stations urging him to start over anybody that might happen to occupy the QB1 spot. From a coaching standpoint I would think Kubiak would tend to avoid a QB like VY since Kubes seems to value the ability to read defenses and kill them with a medium passing game, where as Vince will kill you with some interceptions but his release time and long ball accuracy are still fairly good.

The 2007 and 2008 Titans squads could make a lot of QB's look really good with that running game and defense. Hell, Flacco and Sanchez have both made a killing by looking just good enough to pass as an NFL QB on their respective squads due to the supporting casts they have. I'm sure you are already quite aware of this and I'm not even sure why I didn't just say that neither coaches nor most of the fans would be in favor of signing him to a competitive contract to be a QB2 at best.

EDIT: Of the teams that drafted no QB at all I can see Buffalo, and Arizona making serious runs at him to have him be a starter. He could end up in a camp battle vs Matt Leinart which would make me laugh quite a bit seeing as how they were both playing for the Title against each other in 2005.

Bipolar The Titan
05-15-2011, 08:52 PM
He had injuroes, bt I hardly count that as injury problems.

I only called it that because perhaps without the injury in 2008 the Texans win 10 games and make the playoffs. Revisionist history...

devo-x
05-15-2011, 09:02 PM
He had no trouble beating the Texans defenses the past few years (That's not saying much):foottap:

Playoffs
05-15-2011, 09:15 PM
Vince would look good with a blue star on his helmet!

gary
05-15-2011, 10:02 PM
VY< than a backup QB but he won't do that.

GP
05-15-2011, 10:59 PM
I'm not a VY and nor do I want him here, but what is his record versus Schaubs? I bet VY's is higher. He may not be an NFL QB, but he does put up more W's than L's. That has to be among the list of considerations.

I think this is a lot like "You know, every time I go play golf...the weather is damn nice for some reason."

It's just a coincidence, IMO. And so is Vince Young's "I just win games" theory.

All in all, his judgment day came. Judgment: Failure.

When VY is scrambling, and when other facets of his team fire on all cylinders, and an element of pure luck exists for his team, then "Yeah, he puts up a lot of wins." Otherwise, he freaks out and implodes because things aren't going his way. The pressure is too great, and he collapses under the weight of expectations.

The pinnacle of his career was the UT-USC title game.

He's going to land somewhere. He's going to find a way to periodically pull a rabbit out of his ass (cue the jokes!) with his new team, and the hype machine will start all over again. Then, he's going to invent new ways to blow it. :spit:

HJam72
05-15-2011, 11:15 PM
Nope.

Stemp
05-16-2011, 12:17 AM
Vince would look good with a blue star on his helmet!

Oooohhhhh.... that would be AWESOME! Lots of and lots of Cowgirl fans are also VY fans. Watching that spectacle would be worth the price of admission.

Hookem Horns
05-16-2011, 01:18 AM
I would love to see VY playing for the Redskins. This is because there are so many Cowboys/VY fans in this town. Many whom always got on me for not rooting for him in Tennessee. I always told them that I look at the uniform, not the player.

I would love to still see them rooting for VY while playing for their team's rival. I am very curious if that would happen.

He apparently is working out with AP in Houston.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d81fc83ed/article/vikings-peterson-joins-vy-others-for-houstonarea-workouts?module=HP_headlines

Thorn
05-16-2011, 08:43 AM
Our front office can seem pretty stupid at times (and they are), but even they are not stupid enough to bring VY to Houston.

BigBull17
05-16-2011, 08:56 AM
I didn't think Young would make it as a QB in the NFL. But that was based on his passing and ability to see the field as a passer. I never foresaw the problems Young had with Fisher. And I thought the Wonderlic score was overblown.

As many have said, this is the absolute wrong place for Young to resurrect his career. He needs to dump his entourage and enablers and go to a team with a good QB coach. If the Eagles trade Kolb, backing up Vick in Philly would make a lot of sense. Reid could definitely rehabilitate Young's career.

This is the one. Once you think you are owed success, you are doomed. VY is a kid that nobody ever corrected. It doesn't matter how good a football player you are, when you are growing up, you have warts.

DonnyMost
05-16-2011, 09:03 AM
http://www.amcgltd.com/archives/images/do_not_want2.jpg

El Tejano
05-16-2011, 09:25 AM
I would love to see VY playing for the Redskins. This is because there are so many Cowboys/VY fans in this town. Many whom always got on me for not rooting for him in Tennessee. I always told them that I look at the uniform, not the player.

I would love to still see them rooting for VY while playing for their team's rival. I am very curious if that would happen.

He apparently is working out with AP in Houston.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d81fc83ed/article/vikings-peterson-joins-vy-others-for-houstonarea-workouts?module=HP_headlines


And he looked like an all-pro against them this year. Wasn't a whole lot of Cowboy fans talking great about him that day.

I don't want Vince here because of what he's done in Tenn. However, I will give some reason as to why it wouldn't be a bad idea. Some serious and some just being funny:

1. Bob Mcnair can then take a picture with him, Mario and Vince with him shooting everyone the finger with captions that say "Got'em both now and at a way lesser cost for one of 'em. How ya like me now?"

2. I've always felt that Vince would excel in a WCO. As many of you may remember, there were a few games that perhaps we could've closed out on offense with at least one more first down but Matt Schaub's insistence to slide laterally and still try to find a receiver when all he had to do was fall forward for a first down on 3rd and 2 would bring our defense back on the field. The WCO offense relies on two things - the run and play action. Go back and look at the succesful WCOs and you will see that they've all had a QB who was not afraid to emphasize the run part by tucking the ball when the yards needed were in front of them - Elway, Montana, Young, Vick, Plummer, Mcnabb. Vince would be pretty awesome in that sense.

3. I believe Kubiak does alot for QBs and it's pretty obvious our organization doesn't put up with attitudes based on some players that have come and gone.

4. I believe Vince has the arm strength to hit Andre in stride which could make our offense explosive. I remember alot of us were complaining about how even Walter would have to come back for deep balls that even he could've scored on if hit in stride.

Here are my reasons I don't want Vince here:

1. People who left this team as fans would all of a sudden be die hard Texan fans again. Matter of fact, that was the main reason I started to not like Vince other than the fact he went to a rival team. I started to notice all these people showing interest in us or saying they would become Texan fans if Vince were drafted by us. To many people getting a taste of my team, I didn't like that.

2. Vince's ability to run probably takes the ball out of our best players hands - Andre and Arian.

3. I believe Kubiak does alot for QBs and it's pretty obvious our organization doesn't put up with attitudes based on some players that have come and gone.

4. I believe Vince has the arm strength to hit Andre in stride which could make our offense explosive. I remember alot of us were complaining about how even Walter would have to come back for deep balls that even he could've scored on if hit in stride.

Here are my reasons I don't want Vince here:

1. People who left this team as fans would all of a sudden be die hard Texan fans again. Matter of fact, that was the main reason I started to not like Vince other than the fact he went to a rival team. I started to notice all these people showing interest in us or saying they would become Texan fans if Vince were drafted by us. To many people getting a taste of my team, I didn't like that.

2. Vince's ability to run probably takes the ball out of our best players hands - Andre and Arian.

3. Vince will not be as accurate as Schaub with the over the middle throws.

4. If there is one thing I've liked about Schaub it is that he keeps his head in the game for all 4 quarters and his leadership during hard times of the season. Sometimes he alone is the reason why we are in games we have no business being in or winning (Redskins and Chiefs games last year). Though Vince has shown to be clutch, sometimes it's Vince alone who makes his team have to be in clutch situations and when things are going bad Vince pouts.

chicagotexan2
05-16-2011, 09:35 AM
I do think he has the skills to make it in the NFL, but he cannot read defenses well and makes too many mistakes. Adn those mistakes lead to losses and boos which he has shown are too much for him to deal with. He is emotionally weak and far too immature to be a good QB. I don't care that he's from here. I don't want him and we don't need him.

HOU-TEX
05-16-2011, 09:42 AM
Man, it feels great coming in on a Monday morning, gettin my morning coffee, gettin my work scheduled around my message boarding for the day and opening my favorite place to visit.....only to see this friggin thread at the top of the page. Thanks a lot, neg rep for everyone

Texan_Bill
05-16-2011, 09:48 AM
Wow. That's a strong feeling but can you honestly tell me your feelings about Vince Young when the Texans were on the clock with the number 1 pick overall? History is the best judge and CLEARLY Williams was the best player available, hindsight 20/20, but how did you feel about VY back in April 2006?

Typical case of a college QB not translating into the NFL.. And that's what I pretty much thought before, during and after that particular draft.

El Tejano
05-16-2011, 09:53 AM
Man, it feels great coming in on a Monday morning, gettin my morning coffee, gettin my work scheduled around my message boarding for the day and opening my favorite place to visit.....only to see this friggin thread at the top of the page. Thanks a lot, neg rep for everyone

Just look at it as total and complete confirmation that we indeed made the right decision.

HOU-TEX
05-16-2011, 09:58 AM
Just look at it as total and complete confirmation that we indeed made the right decision.

I think I had confirmation around 4 years ago.

TimeKiller
05-16-2011, 10:19 AM
No.

Dread-Head
05-16-2011, 10:54 AM
On ONE hand VY is a FIERCE competitor who puts 100% into each game in which he plays. On the OTHER he's not that good at reading defenses, his passes aren't that accurate and he tends to blow up at coaches. If he learned to take direction from coaches I'd say let him play back up.

DonnyMost
05-16-2011, 11:03 AM
On ONE hand VY is a FIERCE competitor who puts 100% into each game in which he plays.

Um, except for that whole quitting on his team and refusing to go back into the game thing.

Texecutioner
05-16-2011, 11:04 AM
I tried searching the forums, surprisingly, I didn't find much, but I'm wondering how many of you guys would be interested in taking Vince Young on. I'd like to see him land in Houston quite honestly. He kind of has a nice Trojan horse quality about him.... but after all you've seen, does anyone here want VY for the Texans, even as a #2?

VY would be a good back up QB to have for any team "other than the Texans." There are a ton of blind homers for VY out here that refuse to see any of his shortcomings, but there are aslo lot of blind haters that hate VY out here as well to the point that they refuse to see his any of his positives. Between both, you have a lot of fans on both sides that either have to much fanship for the guy or to much hatred for the guy to form an opinion with any logic involved. So, with that being the case if he were here as a backup like Mr. White pointed out you'd have riots in the stands every time Schaub threw an INT or had a bad game. Callers would be calling the radio stations going nuts every time the Texans lost a game and there would be a lot of bitter fan divide that would do more harm than good.

Another reason why I wouldn't want him here is because it's just to close to home and to many of his entourage counter parts that would be around trying to hang and continue to leach off of the guy. I just don't think that playing in Houston would be all that good for VY at this point in time of his career.

I do think that he's capable of resurrecting his career though. He needs to go to the right situation with a coach that believes in him though. He needs to go to a coach that isn't going to pull him at the first time he makes a mistake like Fisher did last season. VY showed a ton of improvement in those last 8 games of the season two years ago especially as a passer. I don't know exactly where he is at now, since he didn't play much last season, but I'd like to find out and watch him somewhere else. There are several teams where I think he could compete and probably win the starting job right now, especially in San Fran. I think he could add a nice dose to that offense in San Fran that's been stagnant for years now. Minnesota wouldn't be a bad place for him either. I think that would be smart for them to bring him in as a stop gap guy for a year or so while they train up that rookie they just got. If VY works out, then they've got a good problem on their hands. At least in Minnesota and in San Fran VY would have nice weapons to work with to help him out. Other than CJ, he never had any good weapons in the passing game which obviously made things a little more difficult in Tennessee.

houstonspartan
05-16-2011, 11:17 AM
No.

Vince Young needs to get as far away as he can from this region. Nashville is still too close to Houston and Austin, which is why we're always hearing about him turning up in Houston every other weekend.

Time for this guy to grow up, become a man - a focused man - and leave the entourage behind. Someplace far from this region, like Seattle or Boston or Minneapolis, is what he needs. He needs to be around fans that aren't going to praise him 24 hours a day, and he needs to be challenged.

The guy still has talent, but he still has to grow up.

Keep him far, far away from Houston.

GP
05-16-2011, 11:29 AM
I don't think he's as dumb as we make him out to be, but I do think that the element many have listed about him--His never being admonished, never being told "No," etc.--is what blocks out the necessary mental aspect that an NFL-caliber Qb has to have.

Once the UT head coach told Vince, "OK, let's do it your way, Vince," that, to me, was the dead give away. The guy won a title doing it "His way," and he's not going to think of anything BUT doing things his way.

At this stage of his life, he's not going to re-invent himself. It would be him admitting that he made a mistake. Whoever said it was classic narcissist behavior (It was Cloak N Dagger, on here, IIRC) has it pegged. He doesn't see his flaws. He sees others not appreciating and embracing him. Therefore, everything gets filtered through that lens.

I think he ends up in Minnesota, but possibly Arizona. It's going to have to be a team whose ownership and GM and head coach are all on the same page in agreement that their QB position is sooooo terrible that VY is worth the risk. Minnesota and Arizona fit that bill, and they both want to get back into the mix of their divisional races where they once had a pretty good thing going on until those two QBs left (Favre and Warner, respectively). Desperate people do desperate things.

For all of Bob McNair's flaws, I will at least say that he was wise to announce (early on, at that!) that the Texans would NOT be drafting VY No. 1. To withstand the hype, the pressure from area VY fans and UT fans, and the need for a catalyst at the QB position, I felt it was pretty good character by Bob to refuse to buckle under the pressure of all that stuff.

If the Texans can make a playoff run this year and next, and finally look like a real NFL team who doesn't just beat up on weaker teams only to lose to stronger teams on a consistent basis, then it will easily solidify the idea that the Texans did not make "a mistake" when they chose Mario Williams. I think for a lot of people, it's already the case. But it needs another higher level of credibility, IMO, and us making the playoffs while VY is off somewhere busy tearing down another team would be awesome.

Hervoyel
05-16-2011, 11:43 AM
Wow. That's a strong feeling but can you honestly tell me your feelings about Vince Young when the Texans were on the clock with the number 1 pick overall? History is the best judge and CLEARLY Williams was the best player available, hindsight 20/20, but how did you feel about VY back in April 2006?

In April of 2006 I was annoyed with Vince Young. I wanted the Texans to take Reggie Bush (I admit it, I fell for the hype) and wanted Young to go back to UT for another season so we'd have a shot at him in 2007 (I admit it, I fell for the hype).

Williams was the right choice and that really stands out when you look at the decade long history of Texans first round picks.

Today I'd just like to never hear either of their names (Young, Bush) again.

Double Barrel
05-16-2011, 12:49 PM
Wow. That's a strong feeling but can you honestly tell me your feelings about Vince Young when the Texans were on the clock with the number 1 pick overall? History is the best judge and CLEARLY Williams was the best player available, hindsight 20/20, but how did you feel about VY back in April 2006?

I wanted D'Brickashaw Ferguson, and I still think he was the best pick in the draft. I'm not anti-Mario, but I think D'Brick is more effective at his position (one of the best passing LTs in the league) than Mario is at his position (good but not great DE). But I have no problem with drafting Mario and felt that way on the night before the draft.

I was never really sold on VY or Bush.

Man, it feels great coming in on a Monday morning, gettin my morning coffee, gettin my work scheduled around my message boarding for the day and opening my favorite place to visit.....only to see this friggin thread at the top of the page. Thanks a lot, neg rep for everyone

No doubt! VY-talk still takes over local radio shows when the subject comes up, and the man-love is still strong for the guy.

Stemp
05-16-2011, 01:02 PM
On ONE hand VY is a FIERCE competitor who puts 100% into each game in which he plays. up.
Till he gets booed and hurts his thumb and then refuses to go back in :lol:

thunderkyss
05-16-2011, 01:50 PM
Wow. That's a strong feeling but can you honestly tell me your feelings about Vince Young when the Texans were on the clock with the number 1 pick overall? History is the best judge and CLEARLY Williams was the best player available, hindsight 20/20, but how did you feel about VY back in April 2006?

Knowing what I know, if I had the opportunity to go back to the 2006 draft, I would probably have chosen D'Brickshaw Ferguson.

At the time, when everyone was saying we should take Reggie Bush, I was on the Vince Young train. Had Vince come to Houston I think his career would have been totally different.

Imagine never losing in Reliant all those years, as a Texan.

I like Mario, and I was fine with the pick. But our defense hasn't changed very much since 2006. It's obvious the problems are/were much bigger than the DE position.

Now in selecting D'Brick I could just as easily wish that Ron Dayne wouldn't have broke Charles Spencers' leg... our offense took some time to recover from that.

But, knowing what I know now, I wouldn't want Vince, Lienart, Reggie, or even Mario. I'd have taken Ferguson.

The1ApplePie
05-16-2011, 06:47 PM
Knowing what I know, if I had the opportunity to go back to the 2006 draft, I would probably have chosen D'Brickshaw Ferguson.

At the time, when everyone was saying we should take Reggie Bush, I was on the Vince Young train. Had Vince come to Houston I think his career would have been totally different.

Imagine never losing in Reliant all those years, as a Texan.

I like Mario, and I was fine with the pick. But our defense hasn't changed very much since 2006. It's obvious the problems are/were much bigger than the DE position.

Now in selecting D'Brick I could just as easily wish that Ron Dayne wouldn't have broke Charles Spencers' leg... our offense took some time to recover from that.

But, knowing what I know now, I wouldn't want Vince, Lienart, Reggie, or even Mario. I'd have taken Ferguson.

If I had a do-over, I'd have to go Ngata. Too much of a freak

Norg
05-16-2011, 07:32 PM
I used to want him has a backup maybe starter over schaub 2 years ago but know it's kinda to late hes not has good has he usEd to be and one of his main perks scrambling and running has gone down hill IMO do y'all really think vy can run has fast and strong has he used 2 I don't think so

thunderkyss
05-16-2011, 07:57 PM
If I had a do-over, I'd have to go Ngata. Too much of a freak

I believe, had we taken Ngata & the Ravens drafted Mario, we would both be saying the same thing about each of them. Me saying one player wasn't going to fix our defense, you saying Mario was too much of a freak.

Hookem Horns
05-17-2011, 07:07 PM
I tried searching the forums, surprisingly, I didn't find much,

LOL, I missed that you said this the first time I looked at this thread. You are looking at the wrong forums. You have to go to websites where Vince's jock is served to you on a silver platter.

http://forums.hornfans.com/php/wwwthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=football&Number=6362994&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=0&fpart=

http://www.shaggybevo.com/board/showthread.php/80491-Places-Vince-Young-Could-Land

b0ng
05-17-2011, 07:57 PM
LOL, I missed that you said this the first time I looked at this thread. You are looking at the wrong forums. You have to go to websites where Vince's jock is served to you on a silver platter.

http://forums.hornfans.com/php/wwwthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=football&Number=6362994&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=0&fpart=

http://www.shaggybevo.com/board/showthread.php/80491-Places-Vince-Young-Could-Land

Instead of a liberal media bias it's an anti-vince young media bias. I like how Jeff Fisher has morphed into the devil in the minds of the bevos.

The Pencil Neck
05-18-2011, 12:28 AM
Wow. That's a strong feeling but can you honestly tell me your feelings about Vince Young when the Texans were on the clock with the number 1 pick overall? History is the best judge and CLEARLY Williams was the best player available, hindsight 20/20, but how did you feel about VY back in April 2006?

Back in 2006, I wanted D'Brickashaw Ferguson. I was cool with the Williams pick after it was made even though I was surprised by it.

I absolutely did not want Bush or Young. I expected them to both be very bad busts. I didn't think VY deserved to be drafted in the first round, let alone as the first pick.

Texan_Bill
05-18-2011, 01:02 AM
Is there any interest in Vince Young???

Well, hell yeah there's interest in VY.....More meltdowns. More equipment thrown in the stands more "shirts off parties", more ridiculous drama??? Hellz to the yeah!!!!!

As a Texan.......... Ummmmmm :yawn: NOOOOO!

Hookem Horns
05-18-2011, 01:13 AM
I think there would be a lot of interest here. VY could come back to Austin to play profesional football.

http://www.austinoutlaws.com

He is VY so I am sure they would make an exception for him. Maybe this would also help him get away from the sausage parties.