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cuppacoffee
05-13-2011, 08:34 PM
"In the more desirable seats at Yankee Stadium, an already pricey $10.50 draft beer will run you an eye-popping $12.60 thanks to an involuntary 20 percent "service fee" tacked on to the original price. If the sticker shock doesn’t make that brew bitter enough, consider this: Despite what you might expect, that extra $2 and change isn't going to the hustling server who sold it to you, according to a new lawsuit.
Legends Hospitality, the concessionaire co-owned by the New York Yankees, the Dallas Cowboys, and Goldman Sachs, allegedly pockets the 20 percent service fee attached to food and drink in violation of New York law, according to a class-action lawsuit filed against the company by three Yankee Stadium servers this week. If certified as class action, the suit could involve more than a hundred servers and hundreds of thousands of dollars in claims."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/05/13/yankee-stadium-tips_n_861770.html?icid=maing-grid7%7Cmain5%7Cdl1%7Csec3_lnk2%7C62961



:coffee:

CloakNNNdagger
05-13-2011, 08:53 PM
To me, this is the most egregious part of the article

Schaffer believes the system cheats both vendors and fans -- the vendors by withholding their tips, the fans by artificially inflating prices. "It's pretty unbelievable if you think about what's going on," Schaffer said. "Honestly, I couldn't fathom the profits."

What's worse, Schaffer alleges, is the fact that the servers aren't allowed to explain to fans how the actual arrangement works. "If my clients are specifically asked, 'Where does this 20 percent go?' they can't tell them the truth. They can only tell the customer, 'Additional gratuity is at your discretion.' They can't say, 'It's not going to me.' They can be fired for saying that."

CloakNNNdagger
05-13-2011, 09:10 PM
Some interesting facts about Jerry Jones and Legends Hospitality (the entire article is worth reading).


How Cowboys owner Jerry Jones found a way to profit on the Super Bowl (http://blogs.lotterypost.com/truesee/2011/2/how-cowboys-owner-jerry-jones-found-a-way-to.htm)

Long term, the biggest potential payoff for the Cowboys owner could come if his stadium — and, therefore, Legends Hospitality Management, the stadium’s concessionaire — is picked to host the Super Bowl on a regular basis.

“Having that sort of revenue and profit boost every four to five years increases the value of the company significantly,” said Mike Rawlings , chief executive of Legends.

Jones owns about a third of Legends, giving him a large interest in the company’s market value and profits, including from the Super Bowl.

Concessions
Rawlings expects Super Sunday sales of food and beverages at the stadium to approach $5 million or more. Proceeds will be divided between the NFL and Legends. During the regular season, Legends splits revenue with the Cowboys.

Rawlings wouldn’t reveal that split, but typical agreements can give teams 35 percent to 50 percent of revenue, depending upon the category of item sold.

The concessions company was founded two years ago in partnership with the Steinbrenner family, owner of the New York Yankees , two investment firms and the Jones family.

Legends’ annual revenue is at least $150 million, Rawlings said. If the company continues its rapid growth, the enterprise has the potential to be worth several hundred million dollars, based on a comparison with a competitor, Centerplate , which was once publicly held.

Asked in a brief interview after his news conference if he agreed with The Dallas Morning News’ analysis of the potential valuation for Legends, Jones said, “Yes.”

For regular-season games, Legends also handles merchandise sales at Cowboys Stadium. But the NFL brings in a separate company for the Super Bowl.

I can see where you might pick up an additional couple of nickels if you swindle people out of an added on 20% of the take.

Thorn
05-13-2011, 11:05 PM
Stuff like this, and of course the price of everything, is why I don't go to games anymore. I can get two six packs for less than the price of one beer, my bathrooms are cleaner than the stadium bathrooms, and don't require walking a mile to get to them.

This whole thing is out of control and I choose not to participate in an obvious scam.

Wolf6151
05-14-2011, 02:22 AM
Stuff like this, and of course the price of everything, is why I don't go to games anymore. I can get two six packs for less than the price of one beer, my bathrooms are cleaner than the stadium bathrooms, and don't require walking a mile to get to them.

This whole thing is out of control and I choose not to participate in an obvious scam.

Thorn while I agree with you 100%, you still pay even if you don't go to the game. You and I pay in the added cost of batteries, razors, beer, cars and trucks, soda, insurance, underwear, etc... We pay in the added cost of every product that advertises at the stadium or on t.v. The money that's paid to Bob McNair by advertisers is passed onto the consumer, so we still pay.

b0ng
05-14-2011, 11:03 AM
Thorn while I agree with you 100%, you still pay even if you don't go to the game. You and I pay in the added cost of batteries, razors, beer, cars and trucks, soda, insurance, underwear, etc... We pay in the added cost of every product that advertises at the stadium or on t.v. The money that's paid to Bob McNair by advertisers is passed onto the consumer, so we still pay.

Yes but that's easier to take in than getting outright raped when you want to go purchase a beer at the stadium. I don't go to Texans games that often because I have to be sober for them, whereas at my house beers are a buck a piece!

CloakNNNdagger
05-14-2011, 11:10 AM
Yes but that's easier to take in than getting outright raped when you want to go purchase a beer at the stadium. I don't go to Texans games that often because I have to be sober for them, whereas at my house beers are a buck a piece!

Watching the Texans last year required something to kill the pain. Prescirption pain meds would be cheaper.:tiphat:

Thorn
05-14-2011, 11:29 AM
Watching the Texans last year required something to kill the pain. Prescirption pain meds would be cheaper.:tiphat:

Are you handing out prescriptions? LOL

CloakNNNdagger
05-14-2011, 12:27 PM
Are you handing out prescriptions? LOL

Just for you, Thorn

http://img827.imageshack.us/i/imagevwq.jpg/

Thorn
05-14-2011, 12:48 PM
Just for you, Thorn

http://img827.imageshack.us/i/imagevwq.jpg/

Ya think CVS would accept that? LOL

of course I have no ID with Thorn on it, that could be a problem. I guess I'll have to stick to beer.

Blake
05-16-2011, 09:38 AM
Thats the beauty of NFL Football. Even if you got o EVERY home game that year, its only 8-10 games. Alot easier to swallow when paying $8 per beer, than 80 home games in baseball.

Of course the beer is free at my casa.

Double Barrel
05-16-2011, 03:23 PM
Stuff like this, and of course the price of everything, is why I don't go to games anymore. I can get two six packs for less than the price of one beer, my bathrooms are cleaner than the stadium bathrooms, and don't require walking a mile to get to them.

This whole thing is out of control and I choose not to participate in an obvious scam.

That's why you should check out a Houston Stallions game. You could spend a total of $14 on the ticket, soda, and hot dog...and watch a Houston football team that actually goes to the playoffs at that! :fingergun:

Señor Stan
05-16-2011, 03:27 PM
Just for you, Thorn

http://img827.imageshack.us/i/imagevwq.jpg/

Would you take a trade for one of those? I have some jerseys that I could send your way...

Sincerely,

SWTbound07

CloakNNNdagger
05-16-2011, 04:21 PM
Would you take a trade for one of those? I have some jerseys that I could send your way...

Sincerely,

SWTbound07

I'll gladly give you a script Tuesday for a Jersey today?

More sincerely,

Wimpy:spin:

Mr teX
05-16-2011, 04:21 PM
Yes but that's easier to take in than getting outright raped when you want to go purchase a beer at the stadium. I don't go to Texans games that often because I have to be sober for them, whereas at my house beers are a buck a piece!

You're getting screwed regardless. Let me explain, if you go to the game, not only are you getting fianancially pickled by the ridiculous costs of food & beverages but you've also purchased a front row seat to have your vision assaulted having to watch bad football for the last 9 years with our home town boys..

If you stay at home, you escape the fiancial raping, but you're still getting bent over by having to watch the texans on TV....it's a no win situation.

CloakNNNdagger
05-16-2011, 06:42 PM
You're getting screwed regardless. Let me explain, if you go to the game, not only are you getting fianancially pickled by the ridiculous costs of food & beverages but you've also purchased a front row seat to have your vision assaulted having to watch bad football for the last 9 years with our home town boys..

If you stay at home, you escape the fiancial raping, but you're still getting bent over by having to watch the texans on TV....it's a no win situation.

Quit suffering! Use protection!
http://www.sinnovations.co.uk/Pene/Images/N2151-classic_butt_plug.jpg

Thorn
05-16-2011, 07:26 PM
What Texan fans need is prophylactics for their eyes.

Grams
05-17-2011, 02:49 PM
What Texan fans need is prophylactics for their eyes.

It is called the "OFF" button on the tv remote.

b0ng
05-17-2011, 11:16 PM
That's why you should check out a Houston Stallions game. You could spend a total of $14 on the ticket, soda, and hot dog...and watch a Houston football team that actually goes to the playoffs at that! :fingergun:

Honestly, I'd rather watch Pearland Oilers this year. I imagine tickets would be cheaper too, and hey, don't have to worry about how much beer costs!

Thorn
05-18-2011, 11:10 AM
Honestly, I'd rather watch Pearland Oilers this year. I imagine tickets would be cheaper too, and hey, don't have to worry about how much beer costs!

How is Pearland Oilers doing these days? I graduated from Pearland HS in 1969, but haven't kept up with anything in Pearland since.

b0ng
05-18-2011, 11:33 AM
How is Pearland Oilers doing these days? I graduated from Pearland HS in 1969, but haven't kept up with anything in Pearland since.

Won the state 5-A championship last season.

Double Barrel
05-18-2011, 12:03 PM
Honestly, I'd rather watch Pearland Oilers this year. I imagine tickets would be cheaper too, and hey, don't have to worry about how much beer costs!

No beer at Stallions games. :fingergun:

I'm cool with HS football, too. No reason that you can't dig both. I will probably take my boy to a couple of HS games this year, as well.

BigBull17
05-18-2011, 12:05 PM
Quit suffering! Use protection!
http://www.sinnovations.co.uk/Pene/Images/N2151-classic_butt_plug.jpg

Is that a texanstalk first? I can't recall ever seeing butt plugs in a post.

Double Barrel
05-18-2011, 12:10 PM
Is that a texanstalk first? I can't recall ever seeing butt plugs in a post.

It's okay, he's a doctor. He has valid medical reasons for posting it. :peek:

Thorn
05-18-2011, 08:42 PM
Won the state 5-A championship last season.

Wow. That's great! If I remember correctly we jumped a class, from 2A to 3A my senior year and were mostly kicked around. or was it 1A to 2A? Getting old is hell. LOL

TimeKiller
05-18-2011, 09:14 PM
12 bucks for a beer? Yeah right.

I have to reeeeeally want one at Reliant to buy into an 8 dollar cup of yuck.

Sad that sooooo much profit needs to be made. It's not just cool that you're already stinking rich. Gotta keep the pain coming.

CloakNNNdagger
05-18-2011, 10:22 PM
The Colts must feel the fans are as stupid as the players.:toropalm:

Two Days After Eighth Circuit Preserves Lockout, Colts Stupidly Announce Preseason Ticket Sales (http://www.stampedeblue.com/2011/5/18/2177671/two-days-after-eighth-circuit-preserves-lockout-colts-stupidly)

On Tuesday, the Eighth Circuit Court of Appeals granted the NFL owners a stay of Judge Nelson's decision, preserving the owners lockout of the players and keeping the NFL regular season in jeopardy.

Today, the Colts actually had the stones (or the utter stupidity, either one) to announce that a 'limited number' of 2011 preseason tickets are ready for sale. From Colts.com:

The Indianapolis Colts have released a limited number of pre-season single game tickets.

Yep, that's right! Shell out $136 bucks for games that mean nothing that, in all likelihood, won't get played. When we say the Colts are bumbling fools when it comes to media and public relations, we ain't kidding.

This announcement was so stupid (or brazen) that even Colts waterboy Dan Dakich at Indianapolis radio station 1070 The Fan was calling them out. Maybe this is a sign that Dan will grow some stones next time he has Bill Polian on his show, and instead of lobbing him softballs and stroking his ego, he'll actually do his job and ask some difficult questions. One can only hope.

P.S.- If you buy preseason tickets right now, Tony Kornheiser has my full and complete permission to call you a chump.