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nytexan
05-08-2011, 02:42 PM
Okay call me Mr. Koolaid but after all it is May and the draft choices haven't busted yet.

1) drafting JJ Watt improves the D line, this guy is the best 5 technique in the draft and should help out from the get go. Big, strong and is a smart football player. Smith, Watt and Mario is a pretty good DE core and 2 of the 3 can play inside on passing downs. I don't see a downside here. If Okoye shows anything, I think he plays DE this year, it's all to the good.

2) From last year we pick up 4 guys to improve the LB core. We get Barwin back for the year, Reed as an improvement over Diles at OLB, Cushing/Ryans for the whole year and the addition of Mario on the outside. Health of course is paramount but this looks like a strength of the team for not just this year but for years to come

3) the secondary can't possibly be as bad again as last year. Coaching, younger guys getting better, draft picks dropping some guys from the team and hopefully a couple of veteran additions at CB and S, should improve this group as a whole to hopefully at the very least below average which will be the biggest upgrade from atrociously bad.

4) Defensive coaching is already apparent to me to be much better. Just listening to these guys gives me the optimism to think somebody over there has a clue to how to run a defense and what kind players are needed to make this defense better. The fact whether you agree with the Mario move to OLB or not, the idea that they are thinking outside the typical Texan box is reason to celebrate.

5) The rookies should improve the special teams which should help with field position. Reed, Carmichael and Shilo should be big time additions to this area at the least.

6) The offense with the addition of Daniels will be more of a ball control team and won't feel the need to score 30 a game to win and will take some time off the clock allowing the defense to get less time on the field. The addition of Tate to go along with Foster and a full year of D.Ward will give Dennison more confidence to stick with the running game more. The key here will be the health of the O.Line

7) The real key is to get healthy and to stay healthy. I'm seeing 11-5 and a possible overthrow of the dreaded Colts this year.

76Texan
05-08-2011, 04:28 PM
While I share the concern of those who have suffered through bad to mediocre play from the D, I also share your optimism.

Heck, with all the draft picks and Wade can't improve the defense?
He will not have excuses, unless there's an incredible number of injuries.

:fans:

(There shouldn't be any excuse for Kubiak as a HC either!)

brakos82
05-08-2011, 04:46 PM
8) It can't get any worse!

gtexan02
05-08-2011, 04:59 PM
To me it all depends on how quickly the lockout is ended. When implementing a new defensive system, you can't afford to lose ANY time

HJam72
05-08-2011, 05:43 PM
Demeco Ryans had a huge impact in his rookie season.

ANDRE JOHNSON DID NOT... He did by his 2nd season.

I'm ALWAYS skeptical of assuming rookies will have an immediate, positive impact, particularly a really big one.

Thorn
05-08-2011, 05:45 PM
Post draft last year I was all exicited about our chances, then what happens? Tate, whom we all expected to shine, is out for the year and some undrafted free agent guy runs all over the place and our defense became the worst pass defense in NFL history. How could you have predicted that?

So not this year. I'm just gonna sit back and hope for the best but realize everthing we are thinking now either probably won't work or will change drasticly by early to mid season. Again. And it'll do it again next year as well. :lol:

Rey
05-08-2011, 06:06 PM
Having a better defense than last year will make me happy...

But what I really want is a BAD ASS defense. And I just don't see that happening this next season.

badboy
05-08-2011, 08:27 PM
NYTexan, you have posted a good review but I have to protest as you left my guy completely out. Brandon Harris. No he is not Asomugha or Revis but he might just be them in their first year. Even if he becomes what I think he will be, corner is our weakest position. I am down with Quin moving to FS and mentioned it as a possible move long before Wade did. That does weaken the platoon of guys we have. I hope KJ can improve enough to nail down one of the starter roles or if not maybe McMannis or Allen will be there. I am also hopeful that Carmichael will do well.

Things we do not know, will the coaches be as good as we hope and who if anyone we will get in free agency.

DBCooper
05-09-2011, 12:47 AM
Our defense will be better because of one man......

The son of Bum!!!!!!!!!!!

DocBar
05-09-2011, 11:34 AM
I'm not counting on pre-injury production from Barwin and/or Ryans. I hope they return 100%, but I'm preparing myself for Sharpton to start at ILB instead of Ryans and Brooks instead of Barwin. I hope Cush comes back from HIS procedure 100%. His was just cleaning up his knee and all, but that's what leads to artheritis setting in.

silvrhand
05-09-2011, 12:15 PM
Guys.. in reality it's going to be better in 2011 cause there isn't anywhere else to go.. set low expectations given the lockout at this point..

NBT
05-09-2011, 12:44 PM
ASSUMPTION: After this past draft and the talent already in place, we have the makings of a kick-ass defensive front 7.

PREDICTION; from the past we have this; Last time Phillips took over a defense as bad as the Texans was 2004. San Diego was 31st in defense in 2003 when the Chargers finished 4-12. In Phillips first season, they ranked 11th in defense and finished 12-4, with an explosive offense roughly similar to ours is now. There is no reason not to think Phillips will do the same sort of job here for the Texans defense. 11-5, possibly 12-4, and we win the division, or at least make the playoffs.

checo446
05-09-2011, 12:53 PM
I'm not counting on pre-injury production from Barwin and/or Ryans. I hope they return 100%, but I'm preparing myself for Sharpton to start at ILB instead of Ryans and Brooks instead of Barwin. I hope Cush comes back from HIS procedure 100%. His was just cleaning up his knee and all, but that's what leads to artheritis setting in.

I'm still trying to figure out Sharpton's role and whether if needed he would be able to step in for Demeco coming off ACL surgery. Another factor in this is I could still see Cushing moving to the OLB slot if things don't work out with Brooks/Barwin or even Super Mario (since it sounds like he will be lining up there quite a bit this year).

Of course, this speculation by me is for selfish reasons (i.e. I own Sharpton in a dynasty IDP fantasy league), but depth on the inside sure does seem like a concern given the injury of Demeco.

HOU-TEX
05-09-2011, 12:55 PM
I'm still trying to figure out Sharpton's role and whether if needed he would be able to step in for Demeco coming off ACL surgery. Another factor in this is I could still see Cushing moving to the OLB slot if things don't work out with Brooks/Barwin or even Super Mario (since it sounds like he will be lining up there quite a bit this year).

Of course, this speculation by me is for selfish reasons (i.e. I own Sharpton in a dynasty IDP fantasy league), but depth on the inside sure does seem like a concern given the injury of Demeco.

Just to clarify, D-Ryans had achilles tendon surgery.

Hardcore Texan
05-09-2011, 01:11 PM
Just to clarify, D-Ryans had achilles tendon surgery.

And he won't be even close to 100% in 2011 and the odds of a full recovery ever are not even good.

wolf123
05-09-2011, 02:19 PM
The biggest reason for optimism is for the first time ever we have a system in place on defense. The sum of the parts will be much better this year.

Look at our system on offense. Most of the players are really just average players that have been put into a system where they can excell.

gary
05-09-2011, 03:35 PM
I am just not getting high or low on this team because I have been down that road before and have been truly let down every year. This year I am not going to do that anymore and it just is what it is.

Playoffs
05-10-2011, 09:58 AM
It'll be better because of better coaching, especially Wade.

Texecutioner
05-10-2011, 11:15 AM
Well hell, the title of this thread is almost a no brainer considering the fact that they can't get any worse, so they've got nowhere to go BUT UP!

nytexan
05-10-2011, 12:48 PM
Well hell, the title of this thread is almost a no brainer considering the fact that they can't get any worse, so they've got nowhere to go BUT UP!

Well I didn't say a little bitty better, I did say much!!!! :texanbill:

b0ng
05-10-2011, 01:27 PM
Well hell, the title of this thread is almost a no brainer considering the fact that they can't get any worse, so they've got nowhere to go BUT UP!

Would you really be surprised if they figured out a new way to suck even harder next year? Would you reaaaaally be surprised? Reaaaaaallly?

I don't think they'll be worse (I mean it is difficult to get worse than what we saw last year) but they have found new and hilarious ways to be bad before. I anticipate them being better because they hired a real DC this time and not. . . not. . . well, not whatever the **** Richard Smith and Frank Bush were. Damnit Kubiak sucks at hiring defensive staff.

Norg
05-10-2011, 01:30 PM
I dont see how we could get worse from last year LOL

b0ng
05-10-2011, 01:35 PM
I dont see how we could get worse from last year LOL

I present the the Houston Texans Rushing Defense circa 2005:

Rk Team G Pts/G TotPts Att Att/G Yds Avg Yds/G TD Lng 1st 1st% 20+ 40+ FUM
32 Houston 16 26.9 431 506 31.6 2,303 4.6 143.9 21 49 123 24.3 10 1 7

We gave up less points this year (barely) than we did that year. Thank god for Rusty Smith lol.

Could pair that bad boy with last years passing defense. Same alignment too!

Norg
05-10-2011, 01:39 PM
I trust wade will turn our D around ....

what im worried about is that Our Offensive will implode THis year "knocks on wood"

Big Lou
05-10-2011, 09:37 PM
Our defense will be better because of one man......

The son of Bum!!!!!!!!!!!

I prefer "that Son of a Bum"!

DocBar
05-11-2011, 06:35 AM
Here's (http://blog.chron.com/nfl/2011/05/with-changes-and-additions-phillips-has-texans-defense-covered/) a link to a new McClown article. It sounds soooooo good. I just hope it translates to reality.

ObsiWan
05-11-2011, 07:55 AM
And he won't be even close to 100% in 2011 and the odds of a full recovery ever are not even good.

This worries me more than the secondary, more than Barwin's recovery, more than Cushing without his "supplements". If DeMeco isn't 100% that will be a significant weakness. Say what you want about the sucky secondary or lack of pass rush, but I totally believe that our season went in the ditch when/because DeMeco was lost for the year.

HOU-TEX
05-11-2011, 10:19 AM
This worries me more than the secondary, more than Barwin's recovery, more than Cushing without his "supplements". If DeMeco isn't 100% that will be a significant weakness. Say what you want about the sucky secondary or lack of pass rush, but I totally believe that our season went in the ditch when/because DeMeco was lost for the year.

I agree for the most part. Everyone knows I love me some D-Ryans and what he brings to the defense not only from a performance standpoint, but leadership as well.

But, I think most will agree that our defense was horrendous before D-Ryans went down. I went back and took a gander at the first 5 games just to see how bad it was. Keep in mind, I agree with you in saying the loss of D-Ryans hurt the defense. I'm just posting these for giggles and give us a reminder of how bad our defense was when we were 3-2

Week 1 - Indy gained 463 yards and scored 24 points
Week 2 - Washington gained 421 yards and scored 27 points
Week 3 - Dallas gained 385 yards and scored 27 points
Week 4 - Oakland gained 363 yards and scored 24 points
Week 5 - NYG gained 414 yards and scored 34 points

drs23
05-11-2011, 10:24 AM
I agree for the most part. Everyone knows I love me some D-Ryans and what he brings to the defense not only from a performance standpoint, but leadership as well.

But, I think most will agree that our defense was horrendous before D-Ryans went down. I went back and took a gander at the first 5 games just to see how bad it was. Keep in mind, I agree with you in saying the loss of D-Ryans hurt the defense. I'm just posting these for giggles and give us a reminder of how bad our defense was when we were 3-2

Week 1 - Indy gained 463 yards and scored 24 points
Week 2 - Washington gained 421 yards and scored 27 points
Week 3 - Dallas gained 385 yards and scored 27 points
Week 4 - Oakland gained 363 yards and scored 24 points
Week 5 - NYG gained 414 yards and scored 34 points

Ouch! Thanks for reminding me Hou-Tex.:pissed:

HOU-TEX
05-11-2011, 10:26 AM
Ouch! Thanks for reminding me Hou-Tex.:pissed:

Ha, sorry bro. Heck, all we can do now if laugh about it, right? And hope Wade's the answer

Texan_Bill
05-11-2011, 10:29 AM
Ha, sorry bro. Heck, all we can do now if laugh about it, right? And hope Wade's the answer

Wade can't fix SUCK!! Sorry Kareem!

HOU-TEX
05-11-2011, 10:36 AM
Wade can't fix SUCK!! Sorry Kareem!

Keep hope alive!!!

PHAROAH
05-11-2011, 03:30 PM
I think the scheme will help the texans out a lot on defense and it depends on how well Mario Williams transition to OLB goes. The secondary needs some very good veterans to go along with a very young group that just got younger threw the draft.

DocBar
05-12-2011, 06:21 AM
:koolaid: (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/story/15053643/playoffs-sure-to-follow-with-phillips-leading-texans-d) :splits::splits::splits: LINK (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/story/15053643/playoffs-sure-to-follow-with-phillips-leading-texans-d)

CloakNNNdagger
05-21-2011, 08:43 AM
Not really anything earth-shattering, but a nice little article about Wade and the D's state of affairs.

Wade Phillips: Why the Houston Texans Job Is Easier Than You Think (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/705868-houston-texans-why-wade-phillips-job-is-easier-than-you-think)

Thorn
05-21-2011, 12:05 PM
Not really anything earth-shattering, but a nice little article about Wade and the D's state of affairs.

Wade Phillips: Why the Houston Texans Job Is Easier Than You Think (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/705868-houston-texans-why-wade-phillips-job-is-easier-than-you-think)

Nice read, thanks for posting. :)