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rmartin65
04-30-2011, 04:36 PM
Second to last pick

Ryan
04-30-2011, 04:37 PM
Do we need a tackle at all? Couldn't we at least take a chance on whatever NT is left?

badboy
04-30-2011, 04:38 PM
Who? I gotta get off computer for a while. I'll check on our superstar to be selected next--later.

fiasco west
04-30-2011, 04:38 PM
Do we need a tackle at all? Couldn't we at least take a chance on whatever NT is left?

Never know when Duane's going to overtrain again...

The Pencil Neck
04-30-2011, 04:38 PM
Do we need a tackle at all? Couldn't we at least take a chance on whatever NT is left?

Actually, depending on the CBA rules, we might end up losing Rashad Butler. This isn't a bad pick.

rmartin65
04-30-2011, 04:43 PM
Actually, depending on the CBA rules, we might end up losing Rashad Butler. This isn't a bad pick.

If we lose Butler I like the pick. If not, I would have preferred a different position. I am neutral on this pick as well.

TimeKiller
04-30-2011, 04:43 PM
First impression?

No impression. Filling up the depth chart.

JCTexan
04-30-2011, 04:43 PM
As a 7th rounder... I like the pick. If for nothing more than depth at OT.

nytexan
04-30-2011, 04:45 PM
Will most likely start off on practice squad as a project. Not a bad pick if he works out. Appears to be an athletic big man but very RAW.

Profootball weekly report:

Positives: Very good straight-line speed can lock on and steer defenders out of the hole. Can anchor and hold ground in pass protection. Appeared athletic moving through positional drills at the Combine. Works hard, plays hard and is motivated to succeed.

Negatives: Straight-linish and tight-hipped is not quick into blocks and struggles adjusting to movement. Can be outmaneuvered on the second level. Does not strike with authority in his hands. Can do a better job sustaining. Has faced marginal competition and is not battle-tested. Is raw and still learning the game.

Summary: Raw, junior-college transfer with intriguing athletic ability to be groomed as a developmental zone blocker.

NFL projection: Late draftable pick.

EllisUnit
04-30-2011, 04:46 PM
man i wanted mr irrelevant. those guys are fun to watch to see how they actually do.

Kulluminatii
04-30-2011, 04:46 PM
I remember drafting him in the mock draft, here is some more info on the guy:




http://image.cdnl3.xosnetwork.com/pics31/400/JG/JGDRUXAXYLEOAAW.20100225170116.jpg

Derek Newton, OT, Arkansas State

Analysis:
Positives: Good initial quickness off the snap. Gains depth immediately with an efficient kick-slide. Long arms to reach the defender. Good lateral agility and balance to mirror the defender. Plays on the balls of his feet and with his knees bent. Shows good flexibility and at least moderate core strength to handle the bull rush. Good quickness and agility to block on the move in the running game. Shows a burst upfield and can re-direct. Good trap blocker due to his quickness and arm length. Beats the defender off the snap and can turn and seal the edge. Good recognition. Points out the blitzing defender and makes at least some of the line calls for this offense.

Negatives: Quick first step back off the snap, but takes too sharp of an angle when dropping back, giving the defender the edge. Thin arms with only moderate strength; unable to control the defender despite getting his hands on him. Better as a seal blocker moving in space than a drive blocker. Lacks the strength and too often the pad level to knock defenders off the ball. Would like to see nastiness in his play. Seems content with dancing rather than dominating.

rmartin65
04-30-2011, 04:47 PM
man i wanted mr irrelevant. those guys are fun to watch to see how they actually do.

I dont understand this post? We still have Mr. Irrelevant, in approximately 35 picks.

EllisUnit
04-30-2011, 04:48 PM
I dont understand this post? We still have Mr. Irrelevant, in approximately 35 picks.

oh ok u meant second to last pick we get my bad, i quit watching the draft after the 3rd round, my bad. hey atleast we get one more pick, my fav pick at that

Blake
04-30-2011, 04:58 PM
Looks like good value, and insurance if Butler goes, or Brown goes down.

**Best Stephen A. Smith impression** - HOWEVA!

Would have liked Deunta Williams or DeAndre McDaniel to help out at safety.

Dutchrudder
04-30-2011, 05:00 PM
Meh...

Norg
04-30-2011, 05:36 PM
I'm at work is he a tackle or guard. I think it's good because

Roller skates Eric Winston sucks now. I hope he losses his Job to this kid

Hagar
04-30-2011, 05:55 PM
Dude only did 24 reps on the bench press. Kinda weak. Probably camp fodder.

JCTexan
04-30-2011, 05:56 PM
I'm at work is he a tackle or guard. I think it's good because

Roller skates Eric Winston sucks now. I hope he losses his Job to this kid

He's listed as a tackle.

CloakNNNdagger
04-30-2011, 06:08 PM
Here is a video about Newton. VIDEO (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-THnMo2Jss)

As an aside, look at 55-57 seconds on the video and see if anything bothers you.

CloakNNNdagger
04-30-2011, 06:15 PM
Another review.





Positives: Solid athlete... Versatile, will get some looks at Guard as well... Reasonably good length... Nice burst off the ball... Solid knee bender... Solid footwork... Solid lateral range and movement... Solid position blocker, seals well... Reasonably good mobility... Can get to the second level... Solid flexibility and body control... Does a solid job blocking on the move... ZBS only... Has some upside.

Negatives: Kick slide is a little stiff and upright... Inconsistent bender... Can be beat by outside speed, will lunge to reach corner... Not explosive, doesn't fire out into his blocks, more of a catcher... Doesn't stay on blocks well... Can be knocked off balance... Doesn't play with good leverage... Not real strong, lacks the strength to control his man... Doesn't get much movement in the running game. link (http://sidelinescouting.com/rankings/ot/derek-newton.shtml)

Negatives remind me of Winston.

CloakNNNdagger
04-30-2011, 06:18 PM
SI SportsTracker:

Positives: "Nice sized right tackle prospect who comes with good upside. Strong at the point, controls defenders once engaged, and easily pushes them from their angle of attack. Has a thick build, jolts opponents with good hand punch, and gets movement run blocking. Stays square, bends his knees, and seals defenders from the action. Keeps his head on a swivel and remains alert. Violently attacks assignments and works hard to finish."

Negatives: Lacks great footwork in pass protection. Struggles blocking in motion and cannot hit a moving target.

Analysis: Newton possesses good size and growth potential and is a prospect who should get better the more playing time he receives against better competition. Newton is a solid athlete and a terrific developmental prospect who could eventually break into a starting lineup on the NFL level.

Projection: 5th
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2011/players/86373.html#ixzz1L3FOq37l

Hagar
04-30-2011, 06:19 PM
Here is a video about Newton. VIDEO (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-THnMo2Jss)

As an aside, look at 55-57 seconds on the video and see if anything bothers you.

He's putting on his helmet? I guess I missed it.

drs23
04-30-2011, 06:26 PM
Projection 5th

Sounds like value to me and I'll always be OK with OL depth. Just me maybe.

CloakNNNdagger
04-30-2011, 06:57 PM
He's putting on his helmet? I guess I missed it.

Look between his calves and his thighs.

kiwitexansfan
04-30-2011, 07:23 PM
When your a big boy your knees take a pounding thats for sure.

EllisUnit
04-30-2011, 08:42 PM
Look between his calves and his thighs.

most of the o-line guys are wearing knee braces

GP
04-30-2011, 08:53 PM
I see a lot of pissin' and moanin' around these threads where it's criticizing whomever we picked in round 6 or 7.

Guys, once you get past round 5...it's the biggest crap shoot you've ever seen. Even the first 5 rounds are a gamble, with the last two rounds even more.

I like what we did. The picks made sense and we took what was there, and even moved up to make sure we got a guy we felt is worth a shot.

No random, WTH? type pick was made IMO.

badboy
04-30-2011, 08:59 PM
Look between his calves and his thighs.Uh, you can look between his thighs; you are a doctor. I think I'll pass...


Newton needs to beat out this guy before I get too excited but at least he is big enough.
http://www.houstontexans.com/team/roster/Cole-Pemberton/c3a3e92b-d4bc-4924-8a5d-2540592b08bd
TRANSACTIONS: Signed by the Houston Texans as an undrafted free agent on May 17, 2010...released by Texans on Sept. 4, 2010...signed to the Texans' practice squad on Sept. 5, 2010...signed by Texans to a reserve/future contract on Jan. 4, 2011.

COLLEGE: Played in 38 games with 35 starts at Colorado State...started the last 25 games of his career...started all 12 games at weakside tackle in 2009...honorable-mention all-Mountain West Conference selection after allowing only one sack all season and only one QB hurry in more than 300 passing plays...graded out at least 85 percent in every game, with nearly 70 knockdown blocks

CloakNNNdagger
04-30-2011, 11:57 PM
most of the o-line guys are wearing knee braces

Newton played with that dreaded "bone bruise" of the right knee (remember DD) last season. He then underwent surgery to address this and a torn meniscus (cartilage) after the season.

Studies done so far don't show any problem with returning to normal function after a bone bruise. Most athletes are back on the field within six months' time. The real question on everyone's minds is whether or not the bruising will result in arthritis later.

We know that damage to the articular cartilage lining the joint accompanying a bone bruise is a poor prognostic sign -- that means when the cartilage is damaged, it's very likely there will be problems with arthritis later.

Rey
05-01-2011, 12:12 AM
most of the o-line guys are wearing knee braces

When I was in college our coach made us wear them...

Well he strongly urged us to...but I didn't wear mine...restricted my movement too much...