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rmartin65
04-30-2011, 12:02 PM
Discussion thread

The Pencil Neck
04-30-2011, 12:03 PM
Can't wait for this.

Tons of good guys on the board at this point.

rmartin65
04-30-2011, 12:05 PM
Can't wait for this.

Tons of good guys on the board at this point.

Absolutely. We should come away with at least 2 players that make the roster.

gary
04-30-2011, 12:05 PM
FS or what?

phantom17
04-30-2011, 12:06 PM
Robert Sands or Quintin Carter!:texflag:

The Pencil Neck
04-30-2011, 12:08 PM
FS or what?

I'm expecting Safety or Nose Tackle.

If we're hard up against it, a WR.

BTW, with this defense, we're back to having 2 interchangeable safety positions and not a Free Safety/Strong Safety setup.

awtysst
04-30-2011, 12:08 PM
At this point we need to go BPA, preferably on D and just add football players.

awtysst
04-30-2011, 12:09 PM
I trade down to get our 5th back would be an interesting move.

rmartin65
04-30-2011, 12:10 PM
I trade down to get our 5th back would be an interesting move.

I dont see it happening though. We would have to trade back a fair bit.

mussop
04-30-2011, 12:10 PM
At this point we need to go BPA, preferably on D and just add football players.

ABSOLUTELY!!!!! :ant:

The Pencil Neck
04-30-2011, 12:10 PM
I trade down to get our 5th back would be an interesting move.

Or package the 6th somehow with next year's pick to move up to the 5th.

gary
04-30-2011, 12:10 PM
I'm expecting Safety or Nose Tackle.

If we're hard up against it, a WR.

BTW, with this defense, we're back to having 2 interchangeable safety positions and not a Free Safety/Strong Safety setup.I am looking for a Barber replacement.

beerlover
04-30-2011, 12:10 PM
Somebody with last name Carter

The Pencil Neck
04-30-2011, 12:11 PM
I am looking for a Barber replacement.

Bad haircut?

awtysst
04-30-2011, 12:13 PM
Bad haircut?

Gotta love draft day humor!!!

mussop
04-30-2011, 12:13 PM
Bad haircut? :lol:

CharloTex
04-30-2011, 12:14 PM
we pick 8th in the 4th round - cool!

The Pencil Neck
04-30-2011, 12:14 PM
Boling is off the list.

TexansSeminole
04-30-2011, 12:15 PM
Look at Da'Norris Searcy going in the 4th round. Always liked him.

keyser
04-30-2011, 12:16 PM
Man, I actually was interested in Boling.

I know our defense was bad and have no problem with using our top 3 picks on defense, but I don't want to see us ignore the offense. That feels like a recipe for long-term problems. And, despite our offense doing fine last year, I think we are still pretty thin on the OL.

gary
04-30-2011, 12:16 PM
Bad haircut?A joke or do you not know what I mean? Forgive me it is hard to tell on an MB. I also remember Wilson has been cut too. EDIT HAHA I see it is a joke.

SAMURAITEXAN
04-30-2011, 12:17 PM
This is a list from Rick Gosselin's top 100 prospects available which I posted on other thread. Something to look at. I am interested in bold letter ones.

57, Edmond Gates WR Abilene Christian
62, Taiwan Jones RB Eastern Washington
69, Luke Stocker TE Tennessee
74, Kendall Hunter RB Oklahoma State
75, K.J. Wright OLB Mississippi State
77, Tandon Doss WR Indiana
80, Pernell McPhee DE Mississippi State
83, Jalil Brown CB Colorado
85, Rashad Carmichael CB Virginia Tech
89, Clint Boling G Georgia
90, Bilal Powell RB Louisville
91, Ricky Stanzi QB Iowa
93, Brandon Burton CB Utah
94, Sam Acho DE Texas
95, James Brewer OT Indiana
97, Quinton Carter S Oklahoma
98, Jerrell Powe DT Mississippi
99, Colin McCarthy OLB Miami
100, David Arkin OT Missouri State

Go Texans!!!

The Pencil Neck
04-30-2011, 12:17 PM
Look at Da'Norris Searcy going in the 4th round. Always liked him.

Gosselin had him in his top 100 but he dropped in our mock for some reason.

I'm starting to get pumped. A lot of our guys are on the board.

Carter, carter, carter...

rmartin65
04-30-2011, 12:17 PM
2 of my favorite safeties are still there, hopefully the pick is either Williams or Carter.

LikeMike
04-30-2011, 12:17 PM
I would`ve liked Boling - remember last year we considered the Oline our major weakness... well, now go with FS Carter or Williams.

The Pencil Neck
04-30-2011, 12:17 PM
A joke or do you not know what I mean? Forgive me it is hard to tell on an MB. I also remember Wilson has been cut too.

Joking, man. :)

LikeMike
04-30-2011, 12:19 PM
Acho gone... now let`s get Quinton Carter

keyser
04-30-2011, 12:19 PM
Acho gone, also.

I'm still pulling for Gates...

rmartin65
04-30-2011, 12:19 PM
Acho is off the board. One of the 2 S will be there.

LikeMike
04-30-2011, 12:20 PM
I don`t like that trade by the Bucs... they are gonna take our guy...

TexansSeminole
04-30-2011, 12:21 PM
Acho is off the board. One of the 2 S will be there.

Or 3. I obviously like DeAndre McDaniel a ton, but he has already slipped past where I thought he would go. All of the safeties are slipping.

The Pencil Neck
04-30-2011, 12:23 PM
Oh, NOES!

The Buccs steal Kubiak's TE pick...

keyser
04-30-2011, 12:23 PM
I don`t like that trade by the Bucs... they are gonna take our guy...

They might have - it's a TE! Keeps Gary from drafting another one, maybe...

LikeMike
04-30-2011, 12:23 PM
There goes our TE ;-). Now let`s get Carter!

CharloTex
04-30-2011, 12:23 PM
We're up baby!

TimeKiller
04-30-2011, 12:23 PM
SAfETY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
S s s s
A a a a
F f f f
E e e e
T t t t
Y y y y
SAFETY ty ty ty
DANCE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

I can dance if I want to!

Jackie Chiles
04-30-2011, 12:23 PM
I don`t like that trade by the Bucs... they are gonna take our guy...

And they draft a TE. They feared we would take him.

The Pencil Neck
04-30-2011, 12:24 PM
Trade????

CharloTex
04-30-2011, 12:24 PM
we trade pick to WAS

rmartin65
04-30-2011, 12:24 PM
Trade back?

awtysst
04-30-2011, 12:24 PM
trade!

Jackie Chiles
04-30-2011, 12:24 PM
Traded to Washington.

valleytexfan
04-30-2011, 12:24 PM
Trade!

J_R
04-30-2011, 12:25 PM
Trade with Washington

The Pencil Neck
04-30-2011, 12:25 PM
What did we get in return?

rmartin65
04-30-2011, 12:25 PM
What did we get back?

LikeMike
04-30-2011, 12:25 PM
What did we get... several nice guys were left, but I doubt they will be there in the 5th...

awtysst
04-30-2011, 12:25 PM
I trade down to get our 5th back would be an interesting move.

called the trade down!!!

keyser
04-30-2011, 12:25 PM
I'm betting they wanted Acho, and now that he's gone, they traded down. Any word on what they got for the pick?

TexansSeminole
04-30-2011, 12:25 PM
Interesting....details?

badboy
04-30-2011, 12:25 PM
Better be good.

Peldon
04-30-2011, 12:25 PM
Maybe the bucs really did pick the guy we wanted so we traded down.

CharloTex
04-30-2011, 12:25 PM
Awaiting details of trade with Washington ...

J_R
04-30-2011, 12:26 PM
Redskins take Roy Helu, RB, Nebraska

TexansSeminole
04-30-2011, 12:27 PM
The Redskins have like 5 5th rounders lol.

beerlover
04-30-2011, 12:27 PM
called the trade down!!!

way to call it my draft brother :kingkong:

TimeKiller
04-30-2011, 12:27 PM
Dang....

JWarren14
04-30-2011, 12:27 PM
Two 5ths

XI CMURDER IX
04-30-2011, 12:28 PM
We got a 4th round and two 5th rounders. Good deal

The Pencil Neck
04-30-2011, 12:28 PM
Great trade!

A 4th and two 5ths for a 4th and a 6th!

GuerillaBlack
04-30-2011, 12:28 PM
http://www.texanstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1689328#post1689328

There is a draft thread.

gary
04-30-2011, 12:28 PM
Traded down to what number?

Jackie Chiles
04-30-2011, 12:28 PM
The closest pick they have is 30th pick in the 4th, 127 overall. I assume it is that pick plus one of their fives.

TimeKiller
04-30-2011, 12:28 PM
hou gets 127 144 152
wash get 105 178

CharloTex
04-30-2011, 12:28 PM
Washinton gets 2011 #105 #178

Houston gets 2011 127, 144, and something else later

sorry, couldn't get it all down quick enough

J_R
04-30-2011, 12:29 PM
Texans get 127, 144, 158. Gave up this pick and a pick in the 170s

rmartin65
04-30-2011, 12:29 PM
Great trade!

A 4th and two 5ths for a 4th and a 6th!

Interesting. I think we won that one. Smith is doing good work with trades.

CharloTex
04-30-2011, 12:29 PM
hou gets 127 144 152
wash get 105 178

Good work timekiller!

The Pencil Neck
04-30-2011, 12:30 PM
That's a good pick by the Vikings. I had that guy rated pretty high.

badboy
04-30-2011, 12:30 PM
I think I heard onNFL.com we got a 5th & 6th for our 4th. Not sure I like this.

rmartin65
04-30-2011, 12:31 PM
I think I heard onNFL.com we got a 5th & 6th for our 4th. Not sure I like this.

I think we traded our 4th and 6th for a 4th and two 5ths.

CharloTex
04-30-2011, 12:31 PM
hou gets 127 144 152
wash get 105 178

Looks like we swapped 4th's, picked up a 5th, and swapped 6th's, right?

The Pencil Neck
04-30-2011, 12:31 PM
I think I heard onNFL.com we got a 5th & 6th for our 4th. Not sure I like this.

No, we swapped 4ths and gave up a 6th for two 5ths.

XI CMURDER IX
04-30-2011, 12:31 PM
"The Texans have traded with the Redskins, sending them the 4th (105) and 6th (178) for Washington's 4th (127), 5th (144) and 5th (152)."

From the Facebook page, only thing I could find that really outlined it for sure.

gary
04-30-2011, 12:32 PM
Now I just have to wait about 20 more picks.

CharloTex
04-30-2011, 12:33 PM
"The Texans have traded with the Redskins, sending them the 4th (105) and 6th (178) for Washington's 4th (127), 5th (144) and 5th (152)."

From the Facebook page, only thing I could find that really outlined it for sure.

I'm good with this move.

The Pencil Neck
04-30-2011, 12:33 PM
Now I just have to wait about 20 more picks.

My plan coming into this draft was to catch our pick at 108 and then go grab some lunch and maybe take a quick shower.

The Smithiakillips has just ruined my plans.

And I like it.

As long as we get more of the guys on my list.

TexansSeminole
04-30-2011, 12:33 PM
Nice trade!

Bunch of safeties that should still be available.

nytexan
04-30-2011, 12:34 PM
hou gets 127 144 152
wash get 105 178

You are first and correcto mundo :ant:

The Pencil Neck
04-30-2011, 12:35 PM
Seahawks draft Kris Durham. The first guy I don't have on my board at all.

gary
04-30-2011, 12:37 PM
My plan coming into this draft was to catch our pick at 108 and then go grab some lunch and maybe take a quick shower.

The Smithiakillips has just ruined my plans.

And I like it.

As long as we get more of the guys on my list.What time do you think the Texans will pick?

TimeKiller
04-30-2011, 12:37 PM
Now I'm going to have to do the SAFETY DANCE for another 20 picks.....

CharloTex
04-30-2011, 12:38 PM
there goes Quinton Carter

The Pencil Neck
04-30-2011, 12:38 PM
Damn. There goes Carter.

J_R
04-30-2011, 12:38 PM
S Quinton Carter to Broncos. So Broncos nab Carter and Rahim Moore

rmartin65
04-30-2011, 12:38 PM
Bah, Quinton Carter is gone.

Jackie Chiles
04-30-2011, 12:39 PM
I'm thinking the offense gets a bit of quantity with the extra pick. There goes Carter unfortunately as I type.

CretorFrigg
04-30-2011, 12:40 PM
How many decent safeties are left?

We also need to start looking for WRs.

SAMURAITEXAN
04-30-2011, 12:40 PM
Damn!

aussie_texan
04-30-2011, 12:41 PM
shattering news about carter his was my boy :(

JCTexan
04-30-2011, 12:41 PM
I'm thinking the offense gets a bit of quantity with the extra pick. There goes Carter unfortunately as I type.

Trading back here gives Houston the pick they lost trading up for Harris.

TexansSeminole
04-30-2011, 12:41 PM
There goes Quinton Carter. That's Rahim Moore and Quinton Carter to the Broncos.

Brandon420tx
04-30-2011, 12:41 PM
We'll probably try to trade back if there are only like 3 of our targets that we were hoping would fall left

The Pencil Neck
04-30-2011, 12:41 PM
How many decent safeties are left?

We also need to start looking for WRs.

There's a pretty long list.

This year doesn't have a stellar safety class. Most of them clump up around this area.

The Pencil Neck
04-30-2011, 12:42 PM
Colin McCarthy (ILB) to the Titans and David Arkin (OL) to the Cowboys.

phantom17
04-30-2011, 12:43 PM
I'm good wit it! = 4th, 5th, 5th, 7th, & 7th. Hopefully we get good picks!:texflag:

mussop
04-30-2011, 12:43 PM
Oh, NOES!

The Buccs steal Kubiak's TE pick...

Not so fast Williams, D.J. TE 6'2" 245 Arkansas is still available and the Texans interviewed him. :toropalm:

CretorFrigg
04-30-2011, 12:43 PM
There's a pretty long list.

This year doesn't have a stellar safety class. Most of them clump up around this area.

Do you think Jaiquawn Jarrett is a 4th round safety? Maybe we can pick him up. I've heard good things about him.

badboy
04-30-2011, 12:43 PM
I think we traded our 4th and 6th for a 4th and two 5ths.Thanks, I switched over to NFL.com and heard 5th & threw in a 6th to Washington. This is a good trade as Wade thinks he can get a player in late 4th and now has 2 fives.

kiwitexansfan
04-30-2011, 12:44 PM
Gotta say I like the trade to get two 5ths.

J_R
04-30-2011, 12:44 PM
Dolphins take Edmond Gates, WR, Abilene Christian

Jackie Chiles
04-30-2011, 12:45 PM
There goes Edmund Gates, speedy WR.

keyser
04-30-2011, 12:45 PM
Man, there goes Gates. Oh well... The 3 people I was looking at in the 4th are now all taken.

The Pencil Neck
04-30-2011, 12:46 PM
Do you think Jaiquawn Jarrett is a 4th round safety? Maybe we can pick him up. I've heard good things about him.

My safety list right now is:

1. Tyler Sash, SS
2. Deandre McDaniel, S
3. Ahmad Black, SS
4. Robert Sands, S
5. Deunta Willians, FS
6. Joe Lefeged, SS
7. RIchard Sherman, CB/FS
8. Jerrard Tarrant, S
9. Shiloh Keo, SS
10. Jermale Hines

And then you've got board favorites like Chris Prosinski.

The Pencil Neck
04-30-2011, 12:47 PM
I was hoping that Gates was going to drop to us but he was my highest rated WR.

Jackie Chiles
04-30-2011, 12:47 PM
Do you think Jaiquawn Jarrett is a 4th round safety? Maybe we can pick him up. I've heard good things about him.

Pretty sure hes been drafted.

phantom17
04-30-2011, 12:47 PM
Robert Sands would be nice!:texflag:

The Pencil Neck
04-30-2011, 12:48 PM
Also, remember, according to the DB coach, we're back to 2 interchangeable safeties instead of having a FS/SS setup. So I'm just looking at all safeties and not restricting myself to FS.

TexansSeminole
04-30-2011, 12:48 PM
Do you think Jaiquawn Jarrett is a 4th round safety? Maybe we can pick him up. I've heard good things about him.

Already taken by the Eagles.

J_R
04-30-2011, 12:48 PM
Rams select Greg Salas, WR, Hawaii
Raiders select Chimdi Chekwa, CB, Ohio State

TexansBull
04-30-2011, 12:49 PM
S Quinton Carter to Broncos. So Broncos nab Carter and Rahim Moore


I wonder if after the lockout ends, the Texans and Denver make some trades. Arent they switching to a 4-3 and us to a 3-4? Shouldnt that mean both teams are going to cut players that dont fit? Maybe we trade Amobi and a draft pick for a nose or safety that they have.

beerlover
04-30-2011, 12:49 PM
Do you think Jaiquawn Jarrett is a 4th round safety? Maybe we can pick him up. I've heard good things about him.

Eagles selected him in the 2nd #54 overall

Jackie Chiles
04-30-2011, 12:50 PM
Also, remember, according to the DB coach, we're back to 2 interchangeable safeties instead of having a FS/SS setup. So I'm just looking at all safeties and not restricting myself to FS.

From what the coaches said about needing guys that can cover I think you might still need to limit it to free safety types.

gary
04-30-2011, 12:51 PM
I like what the Rams are doing in this draft also the Lions and Saints.

The Pencil Neck
04-30-2011, 12:53 PM
The Jags take Cecil Shorts. A guy I wouldn't have minded in the 6th but it seems a bit early for him.

J_R
04-30-2011, 12:53 PM
Cecil Shorts, WR, Mount Union to Jacksonville
49ers take Kendall Hunter, RB, OK State

kiwitexansfan
04-30-2011, 12:54 PM
My safety list right now is:

And then you've got board favorites like Chris Prosinski.

He is a board favourite?

I think I've been all over the draft threads and the name is not familiar to me at all.....

Must of missed something.

The Pencil Neck
04-30-2011, 12:54 PM
From what the coaches said about needing guys that can cover I think you might still need to limit it to free safety types.

Maybe so. Definitely don't want in the box safety types.

XI CMURDER IX
04-30-2011, 12:54 PM
I want Ahmad Black now with our 4th round pick. That is who I am hopeful for, then take Casey Matthews with a 5th if he drops that far. Fingers crossed

The Pencil Neck
04-30-2011, 12:55 PM
He is a board favourite?

I think I've been all over the draft threads and the name is not familiar to me at all.....

Must of missed something.

Yeah. You're missing it. I forget who it is but someone's been posting lots of stuff about him in just about every safety thread.

Jackie Chiles
04-30-2011, 12:55 PM
Kendall Hunter, nice pick.

The Pencil Neck
04-30-2011, 12:56 PM
Kendall Hunter, nice pick.

Yeah, I like that pick.

And it doesn't take any of our guys. :)

JWarren14
04-30-2011, 12:58 PM
Casey Matthews to Iggles

J_R
04-30-2011, 12:59 PM
Texans runaway winner in ESPN poll of who had best draft through first 2 rounds of the AFCS teams.

Eagles select Casey Matthews, ILB, Oregon

awtysst
04-30-2011, 12:59 PM
Casey Matthews to Iggles

Too bad. I was hoping he'd drop to our 4th or fifth.

The Pencil Neck
04-30-2011, 12:59 PM
I was kinda hoping Casey was going to drop to the 5th for us.

Brandon420tx
04-30-2011, 01:00 PM
So we're in position to trade up for DJ Williams right?

J_R
04-30-2011, 01:01 PM
Giants take James Brewer, OT, Indiana
Chiefs take Jalil Brown, CB, Colorado

beerlover
04-30-2011, 01:01 PM
I really like Brandon Burton too & with the players coming off the board between picks he is fast becoming BPA. He is very much in the Glover Quinn mold, tough, competitive, excellent special teams performer, who could also move to FS http://fantasyfootball.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/brandon-burton.jpg

gary
04-30-2011, 01:02 PM
I think Casey Matthews is a terrific pick.

The Pencil Neck
04-30-2011, 01:02 PM
I really like Brandon Burton too & with the players coming off the board between picks he is fast becoming BPA. He is very much in the Glover Quinn mold, tough, competitive, excellent special teams performer, who could also move to FS http://fantasyfootball.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/brandon-burton.jpg

Right now, my straight up board is:

Brandon Burton
Davon House
Tyler Sash
Quan Sturdivant
Tandon Doss

The Pencil Neck
04-30-2011, 01:03 PM
Right now, my straight up board is:

Brandon Burton
Davon House
Tyler Sash
Quan Sturdivant
Tandon Doss

What I was trying to say is... if Burton is another CB/S type, I'd love to get him.

awtysst
04-30-2011, 01:04 PM
Anyone up for a little Jerrel Powe action in the 4th?

VTexan
04-30-2011, 01:05 PM
I'm looking for Tyrod Taylor in the second 5th or the 6th. :)

The Pencil Neck
04-30-2011, 01:05 PM
Anyone up for a little Jerrel Powe action in the 4th?

Yes. He's not the top of my board but he was in my Want list yesterday.

The Pencil Neck
04-30-2011, 01:06 PM
The Chefs take Jalil Brown.

rmartin65
04-30-2011, 01:06 PM
Anyone up for a little Jerrel Powe action in the 4th?

I'd pass. He just did not impress me at all last year.

J_R
04-30-2011, 01:06 PM
Colts take Delone Carter, RB, Syracuse

JWarren14
04-30-2011, 01:07 PM
Colts re-stocking their Offense

awtysst
04-30-2011, 01:08 PM
I'd pass. He just did not impress me at all last year.

Just to keep in mind, last year his coaches tried to turn him into a gap shooter ratehr than let him be the big immovable object he is. Year before when the coaches played to his strengths he was a top notch NT prospect.

b0ng
04-30-2011, 01:08 PM
Please draft a safety.

J_R
04-30-2011, 01:09 PM
Eagles select Alex Henry, K, Nebraska

beerlover
04-30-2011, 01:10 PM
Just to keep in mind, last year his coaches tried to turn him into a gap shooter ratehr than let him be the big immovable object he is. Year before when the coaches played to his strengths he was a top notch NT prospect.

true but what about Anthony Gray, NT, Southern Mississippi in the 5th?

TexansBull
04-30-2011, 01:10 PM
Please draft a safety.

This seems to be a recurring request.

Brandon420tx
04-30-2011, 01:10 PM
Eagles select Alex Henry, K, Nebraska

I wanted him in the 6th, or a late 5th (For his punting skills and a backup to Rackers in case of injury)

The Pencil Neck
04-30-2011, 01:10 PM
Just to keep in mind, last year his coaches tried to turn him into a gap shooter ratehr than let him be the big immovable object he is. Year before when the coaches played to his strengths he was a top notch NT prospect.

But this brings up the "scheme" question.

From what I've been hearing, Wade almost wants 3 DL that are similar along the front shooting gaps.

If that's the case, Powe may not fit the scheme.

awtysst
04-30-2011, 01:10 PM
true but what about Anthony Gray, NT, Southern Mississippi in the 5th?

We do have 2 fifths now, how about we take Powe in the 4th an Gray with one of our fifths?

badboy
04-30-2011, 01:11 PM
I really like Brandon Burton too & with the players coming off the board between picks he is fast becoming BPA. He is very much in the Glover Quinn mold, tough, competitive, excellent special teams performer, who could also move to FS http://fantasyfootball.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/brandon-burton.jpgAgreed

The Pencil Neck
04-30-2011, 01:11 PM
Agreed

Kiwi?

HERE's the Prosinski lover.

gary
04-30-2011, 01:12 PM
A kicker in the fourth round?

Maddict5
04-30-2011, 01:12 PM
chris carter or greg romeus plaese!

Dutchrudder
04-30-2011, 01:12 PM
Eagles select Alex Henry, K, Nebraska

Is David Akers up for Free Agency this year?

The Pencil Neck
04-30-2011, 01:12 PM
A kicker in the fourth round?

Are they getting rid of David Akers?

Maddict5
04-30-2011, 01:13 PM
....or powe actually

J_R
04-30-2011, 01:13 PM
I am unsure about Akers and his contract situation

Jags take Chris Prosinski, S, Wyoming

Brandon420tx
04-30-2011, 01:13 PM
Are they getting rid of David Akers?

They're probably replacing their punter, and getting Akers insurance

awtysst
04-30-2011, 01:13 PM
But this brings up the "scheme" question.

From what I've been hearing, Wade almost wants 3 DL that are similar along the front shooting gaps.

If that's the case, Powe may not fit the scheme.

My understanding is that Wade looks for football players and then creates a scheme for them. Remember, he had Big space eaters like Ted Washington in Buffalo and Jamal Williams in SD. To me, he seems to see what he has and then create a scheme for the players rather than trying to force fit.

JWarren14
04-30-2011, 01:14 PM
Another safety off the board...Christopher Prosinski

Brandon420tx
04-30-2011, 01:14 PM
NVM Akers is a free agent aparrently

rmartin65
04-30-2011, 01:14 PM
There goes Prosinski, to the Jags.

badboy
04-30-2011, 01:15 PM
Just to keep in mind, last year his coaches tried to turn him into a gap shooter ratehr than let him be the big immovable object he is. Year before when the coaches played to his strengths he was a top notch NT prospect.That is what I saw also. There goes my boy Prosinski.

J_R
04-30-2011, 01:15 PM
Bills take Chris Hairston, OT, Clemson

b0ng
04-30-2011, 01:16 PM
This seems to be a recurring request.

It'd be nice if we had starting safeties who weren't abjectly terrible for once. We sort of had that kinda in 2009, but not really. It's a re-occurring hole like the DT position has been for the last 4 or 5 years.

gary
04-30-2011, 01:16 PM
Are they getting rid of David Akers?The might be but not that I know of still early for that IMO.

LikeMike
04-30-2011, 01:17 PM
Still a lot of good guys left. I like the trade down, although we missed out on carter. Now I hope for Williams.

Edit: There goes Doss...

awtysst
04-30-2011, 01:18 PM
Lots of great players left and 4 to go!

Brandon420tx
04-30-2011, 01:19 PM
We're going to get our TE soon unless someone picks him. Do the Falcons pick before us?

SAMURAITEXAN
04-30-2011, 01:20 PM
We are almost there.

mussop
04-30-2011, 01:20 PM
But this brings up the "scheme" question.

From what I've been hearing, Wade almost wants 3 DL that are similar along the front shooting gaps.

If that's the case, Powe may not fit the scheme.

Yeh thats great and all but what are we going to do in go-line and short yardage situations? We need some size for sure.

Brandon420tx
04-30-2011, 01:20 PM
There went the only FB I would have been ok with, better resign Vonta now

LikeMike
04-30-2011, 01:20 PM
Deunta Williams FS North Carolina
Robert Sands FS West Virginia
Ahmad Black SS Florida

One of those guys please...

awtysst
04-30-2011, 01:21 PM
Jets may like Powe here.

Jackie Chiles
04-30-2011, 01:21 PM
And the Raiders take another fast guy.

beerlover
04-30-2011, 01:22 PM
We do have 2 fifths now, how about we take Powe in the 4th an Gray with one of our fifths?

still on the board

J_R
04-30-2011, 01:22 PM
Tandon Doss, WR, INdiana to Baltimore

Owen Marecic, FB, Stanford, to Cleveland

Taiwan Jones, RB, Eastern Washington to Oakland

Peldon
04-30-2011, 01:22 PM
Jets may like Powe here.

Jets have already taken 2 DTs, if they take another one I'll be shocked.

mussop
04-30-2011, 01:22 PM
Jerrell Powe DT Mississippi 4TH
A human plug for the middle.

Davon House CB New Mexico State 4TH
Press man cover guy with great speed.

Deunta Williams FS North Carolina 4TH
makes plays all over the field. Evry time I watched UNC he stood out more than the big 3.

Robert Sands FS West Virginia 4TH
6'4" 217 with great range and instincts. Had a somewhat off year last year because of injuries but played like a 1st rounder the previous year.

Stanley Havili FB Southern California 4th
Insurance for Leech and a great blocker and receiver out of the backfield. Solid runner with good vision. People will think im crazy but he reminds me of Foster

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXlwb6c089g
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCB5Q...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1JmHA...eature=related

Shaft75
04-30-2011, 01:22 PM
Quizz FTW!

badboy
04-30-2011, 01:23 PM
true but what about Anthony Gray, NT, Southern Mississippi in the 5th?

Powe.

awtysst
04-30-2011, 01:23 PM
Jerrell Powe DT Mississippi 4TH
A human plug for the middle.

Davon House CB New Mexico State 4TH
Press man cover guy with great speed.

Deunta Williams FS North Carolina 4TH
makes plays all over the field. Evry time I watched UNC he stood out more than the big 3.

Robert Sands FS West Virginia 4TH
6'4" 217 with great range and instincts. Had a somewhat off year last year because of injuries but played like a 1st rounder the previous year.

Stanley Havili FB Southern California 4th
Insurance for Leech and a great blocker and receiver out of the backfield. Solid runner with good vision. People will think im crazy but he reminds me of Foster

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXlwb6c089g
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCB5Q...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1JmHA...eature=related

Is Williams injured?

Dutchrudder
04-30-2011, 01:23 PM
Love the Browns pick of Marecic! I took him for the Browns in the 6th of the TTalk draft!

SAMURAITEXAN
04-30-2011, 01:24 PM
We are up! Are we going to draft S?

J_R
04-30-2011, 01:24 PM
Jets take Bilal Powell, RB, Louisville

Houston on the clock!

LikeMike
04-30-2011, 01:24 PM
Here we go! Williams please...

awtysst
04-30-2011, 01:24 PM
Quizz FTW!

Instant marketing campaign: Can YOU pass the Quizz?!

rmartin65
04-30-2011, 01:25 PM
Pulling for Williams here.

awtysst
04-30-2011, 01:25 PM
Jets take Bilal Powell, RB, Louisville

Houston on the clock!

Do I get credit for calling for Powe vs Powel? I was almost there!

eriadoc
04-30-2011, 01:25 PM
There went the only FB I would have been ok with, better resign Vonta now

I really hoped we'd find a way to end up with Marecic. He's the sort of player you need on the team - a hardworking, hard-nosed, blue collar type player. I'm a Marecic fan. Good pick by the Browns. He's a FOOTBALL PLAYER.

beerlover
04-30-2011, 01:25 PM
Jets take Bilal Powell, RB, Louisville

Houston on the clock!

wouldn't even have to customize that jersey

mussop
04-30-2011, 01:25 PM
Is Williams injured?

Which Williams are you referring to?

awtysst
04-30-2011, 01:26 PM
Pulling for Williams here.

is he injured?

adboy
04-30-2011, 01:26 PM
wow were on the clock and they can still only talk about the bears and ravens

awtysst
04-30-2011, 01:26 PM
Which Williams are you referring to?

Deunta. I thought he had an injured leg.

beerlover
04-30-2011, 01:27 PM
Deunta. I thought he had an injured leg.

Texans select - commercial break :rake:

mussop
04-30-2011, 01:27 PM
Deunta. I thought he had an injured leg.

Havent heard anything about that.

awtysst
04-30-2011, 01:27 PM
Wow, we must be trying to trade again.

LikeMike
04-30-2011, 01:28 PM
A TE perhaps?

awtysst
04-30-2011, 01:28 PM
Pick is in.

Brandon420tx
04-30-2011, 01:28 PM
Dammit no one took DJ Williams before us

Wolf
04-30-2011, 01:28 PM
Lol. Figures a freaking commercial
:toropalm:

Playoffs
04-30-2011, 01:28 PM
Texans select - commercial break :rake:

:toropalm:

J_R
04-30-2011, 01:28 PM
Pick is in and Rashad Carmichael, CB, V-Tech is a Texan

SAMURAITEXAN
04-30-2011, 01:28 PM
Rashad Carmichael!

beerlover
04-30-2011, 01:28 PM
the suspense is killing me :drunk:

awtysst
04-30-2011, 01:28 PM
Rashad Carmichael

CretorFrigg
04-30-2011, 01:29 PM
Rashad Carmichael - DB

RTP2110
04-30-2011, 01:29 PM
Prolly means we arent going afeter a vet CB =(

adboy
04-30-2011, 01:29 PM
still no safety, maybe with the 5th

rmartin65
04-30-2011, 01:29 PM
Meh.... I dont know about this one.

GuerillaBlack
04-30-2011, 01:30 PM
wow were on the clock and they can still only talk about the bears and ravens

They have been doing that all day, not just to the Texans. It's the third day, so it doesn't really matter, unlike the first two.

But, Rashad Carmichael? Not sure about that one, tbh...

ThaShark316
04-30-2011, 01:30 PM
Prolly means we arent going afeter a vet CB =(

lol what makes you think that?

RTP2110
04-30-2011, 01:30 PM
Lol. Figures a freaking commercial
:toropalm:

On both channels, too

FML

Brandon420tx
04-30-2011, 01:30 PM
Prolly means we arent going afeter a vet CB =(

Lets see how they spin this. At least we can assume that Wade is going to trim the fat at corner

mussop
04-30-2011, 01:30 PM
Prolly means we arent going afeter a vet CB =(

That would be a very bad move!!!!!!!!!!!

Maddict5
04-30-2011, 01:30 PM
good pick

Playoffs
04-30-2011, 01:30 PM
Prolly means we arent going afeter a vet CB =(

Nope.

Snyder's wallet is open, as is Philly & Dallas.

XI CMURDER IX
04-30-2011, 01:30 PM
I think we are setting up for a veteran defensive back, and then move Quin to free safety. Then, take Ahmad Black or someone like that next round. Sounds like a plan that only one man could be behind...

adboy
04-30-2011, 01:31 PM
Prolly means we arent going afeter a vet CB =(

seriously doubt they will make that mistake again

TexanSam
04-30-2011, 01:31 PM
Prolly means we arent going afeter a vet CB =(

I would be upset if we don't go after a veteran CB. Wade Phillips knows how bad our D was last year with a first round pick starting, alongside Quin. I can't imagine it would be much better with Harris and now Carmichael in their place.

Maddict5
04-30-2011, 01:31 PM
feisty,competitive & has spped. had him pegged as our middle rd cb

beerlover
04-30-2011, 01:31 PM
Rashad Carmichael

well he did have 10 picks last two years & can play in zone or press coverage.

LikeMike
04-30-2011, 01:31 PM
The first pick I´m not thrilled about - we have bodies at CB, we just don`t have top quality. We have not nearly enough bodies at either safety spot, and we don`t have enough bodies at NT or OLB... but well, 4th round, can`t argue with best player available (I guess that`s what he was for Wade).

badboy
04-30-2011, 01:31 PM
DArn new computer. Wrong link

awtysst
04-30-2011, 01:31 PM
Not thrilled. Another CB.

I guess we are gonna see the end of Moulden and McCain. I think McManis moves to S depth.

J_R
04-30-2011, 01:32 PM
Steelers take Cortez Allen, CB, Citadel

jay23728
04-30-2011, 01:32 PM
think they may setting up going for weddle at safety and lesser fa cb like taylor or marshall

adboy
04-30-2011, 01:32 PM
03/22/2011 - NFL Draft Scout Riser: Chris Prosinski, FS, Wyoming: A very productive tackler in college, Prosinski surprised scouts with his athleticism; few expected the All-Mountain West pick to post a 4.39 40, 39 1/2-inch vertical, 4.28 short shuttle, and 11-foot-2-inch broad jump. That sort of performance may earn him late-round consideration, especially in a weak safety class. - Chad Reuter, NFLDraftScout.com

•Full Chris Prosinski News Wire
Overview
Though Prosinski stayed in his home state of Wyoming, he could have gone to schools like Boise State, Georgia Tech, Harvard and Princeton. Getting recruited by good football programs and Ivy League schools is a clue about his strong combination of athleticism and intelligence -- something his play for the Cowboys also made evident.

He received one of five prestigious National Football Foundation National High School Scholar-Athlete awards before his redshirt season, and his first year on the field saw him rack up 37 tackles in reserve duty. He then earned honorable-mention Mountain West honors in 2008 (88 tackles, three interceptions, nine pass breakups), second-team all-conference accolades in 2009 (140 tackles, 3.5 TFL, six PBUs, two forced fumbles) and 2010 (108 tackles, two INTs, five PBUs, two FF).

Prosinski's excellent pro day workout (4.39 40, 39.5-inch vertical, 4.28 short shuttle, 6.85 three-cone), in addition to his durability, intelligence and production, will help regional scouts to sell their superiors on the tough safety's merits as a late-round addition to the roster.

Analysis
Positives: Centerfielder with straight-line speed and high football intelligence. Excellent closing speed when getting to the sideline or to ballcarriers over the middle. Most secure tackler on the team when technique is sound, keeps legs moving and uses arms to wrap after contact. Also cuts down ballcarriers with his shoulder when coming downhill. Recognizes routes coming into his area and has the recovery speed to get the angle on running backs down the opposite sideline and deep throws from play-action. Breaks up passes in front of receivers, at times making the interception, without interfering. Team captain in 2010.

Negatives: Sometimes resorts to ducking his head on open-field tackles instead of staying low and square. Not an intimidating hitter. Hesitates when plays slow down instead of inserting himself into the pile to prevent further yardage. Engulfed near the line on run plays by linemen and larger tight ends. Inconsistent finding his way through trash when flying up into the box.

--Chad Reuter

2010 Season
Prosinski ended his career ranked No. 4 in career tackles at UW with 373 career tackles. He ranked No. 3 in the MWC and No. 42 in the NCAA in tackles this season, averaging 9.0 tackles per game. He led Wyoming in tackles with a total of 108 in 2010, marking the second consecutive season in which he had over 100 tackles in a season. He had 140 in 2009.

2009 Season
Prosinski was voted Second Team All-Mountain West Conference at the conclusion of the 2009 season in balloting by the nine MWC head coaches and media from around the conference. He led Wyoming in tackles in `09, with 140. That ranks as the fourth best single-season tackle total in Wyoming school history. He also led all MWC defensive backs in tackles in `09. His single-game high in 2009 was 17 tackles versus No. 2 Texas. That ranked as the 18th best single-game tackle total in the country in `09. He had 16 tackles versus No. 25 ranked BYU and 13 each versus UNLV and No. 4 ranked TCU. Against TCU, he also returned a fumble 98 yards for a touchdown. Prosinski was credited with 12 tackles on the road at No. 19 ranked Utah. He earned MWC Defensive Player of the Week honors for his performance at Colorado State. Prosinski had 10 tackles, forced one fumble and made a huge tackle on third down and goal at the Wyoming four-yard line that forced CSU into a field goal and kept the Cowboys within two points at 16-14. Wyoming would later kick a field goal to capture a 17-16 victory over CSU. For the second consecutive year, he earned Academic All-Conference recognition. Prosinski was named his team's Defensive Back of the Year at the annual awards banquet.

2008 Season
In his first season as a starter, Prosinski earned Honorable Mention All-Conference accolades. He led the team in passes defended in 2008, with 12. That ranked him No. 4 in the MWC and No. 38 in the nation. He tied for the team lead in interceptions with senior linebacker Ward Dobbs -- each had three interceptions on the season. That also tied him for fourth best in the MWC and 96th nationally. Prosinski ranked No. 3 in total tackles for UW, with 88, and he ranked No. 15 in the Mountain West in that category. He had a season high 15 tackles at New Mexico. His other double-digit tackle performance came against Air Force, with 13 total tackles. He was credited with nine tackles in two other games -- versus Utah and at UNLV. Against North Dakota State, Prosinski intercepted two passes, broke up a third pass and recorded seven tackles. His third interception of the season came in the season finale versus Colorado State. Prosinski achieved Academic All-Conference honors for the first time in his UW career.

2007 Season
Prosinski was credited with 37 total tackles, 15 solos and 22 assists in his first season of competition at the college level. He also broke up one pass. Despite not starting, he ranked 12th on the Cowboy squad in tackles. His best individual game came against BYU as he was credited with 13 total tackles. He also had a six-tackle performance at Utah.

2006 Season
Redshirted. During the `06 season, Prosinski received a very exclusive honor as he was named one of only five former high school football student-athletes in the nation as a 2006 National Football Foundation (NFF) National High School Scholar-Athlete. Prosinski was the West Region honoree. Of all the high school football players in the nation approximately 2,500 are honored annually by the 120 NFF chapters across the country with NFF scholarships. From those 2,500 scholarship recipients only five receive the National High School Scholar-Athlete award.

High School
Prosinski was named the Offensive Player of the Year in the state of Wyoming by the Casper Star-Tribune. He was also named to the Super 25 by the Star-Tribune. Prosinski led Buffalo to back-to-back Wyoming 4A State titles and a 22-game winning streak during his junior and senior seasons. Prosinski played quarterback for the Buffalo Bison, but is projected as a safety for the Cowboys. Prosinski threw for 592 yards and eight touchdowns, and ran for 703 yards and 17 TDs from his quarterback position. He also excelled as a punt returner, averaging 23.5 yards per punt return. He returned two punts for touchdowns. In football, Prosinski was a two-time All-State selection and was the 4A East Player of the Year. He competed for the North Team in the 2006 Shrine Bowl of Wyoming. An outstanding basketball player, Prosinski played for his father Paul, who is Buffalo's head basketball coach. Buffalo won the 3A State Championship in basketball his senior season, posting a 23-2 record. Prosinski earned All-State honors for the second consecutive year and was named Player of the Game in the State Championship game. His junior year, he placed in four events at the state track and field championships. Prosinski won the state championship in the long jump, placed second in the 100 hurdles, third in the 300 hurdles and fourth in the triple jump.

I am unsure on this one seems aq bad pick.

the wyoming guy was gone to jax, and why not brandon burton

BigBull17
04-30-2011, 01:33 PM
Reeks of Rick Smith

adboy
04-30-2011, 01:33 PM
think they may setting up going for weddle at safety and lesser fa cb like taylor or marshall

would love eric weddle and maybe joseph or ike in texans uniforms next year

gary
04-30-2011, 01:33 PM
Are we going to count on rookies as corners once again?

TexansSeminole
04-30-2011, 01:33 PM
I'm obviously a big ACC guy, and I was never really overly impressed with Carmichael. He's not a bad player, I just never fell in love with him

However, it is a 4th rounder and VTech has produced some good corners recently.

RTP2110
04-30-2011, 01:33 PM
lol what makes you think that?


I'm just guessing that if they're serious about acquiring a vet CB, that adding the vet and B. Harris would be enough addition to the CB corps. Drafting another CB kida made it seem like they're not too confident on signing a vet, just an assumption

Mr teX
04-30-2011, 01:33 PM
Lets see how they spin this. At least we can assume that Wade is going to trim the fat at corner

Exactly....say goodbye to Brice McCain & Antwan Molden.

Maddict5
04-30-2011, 01:33 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCQ-56ME8gE

adboy
04-30-2011, 01:34 PM
I'm just guessing that if they're serious about acquiring a vet CB, that adding the vet and B. Harris would be enough addition to the CB corps. Drafting another CB kida made it seem like they're not too confident on signing a vet, just an assumption

i think it means b mcain and others will be gone

ThaShark316
04-30-2011, 01:34 PM
I'm just guessing that if they're serious about acquiring a vet CB, that adding the vet and B. Harris would be enough addition to the CB corps. Drafting another CB kida made it seem like they're not too confident on signing a vet, just an assumption

Can't ever have too many. Gotta improve the ST as well...that was a WEAKNESS in 2010.

TexansSeminole
04-30-2011, 01:35 PM
I'm just guessing that if they're serious about acquiring a vet CB, that adding the vet and B. Harris would be enough addition to the CB corps. Drafting another CB kida made it seem like they're not too confident on signing a vet, just an assumption

Nobody should be confident about their ability to sign a vet. Can't blame them really.

awtysst
04-30-2011, 01:35 PM
I assume we will make a big push to sign Ike Taylor. However, thus far, here are our DB options.

CBs: Jackson, Allen, Harris, Carmichael, Paymah
S: Nolan, Quinn, McManis, Williams, Baker

TexanSam
04-30-2011, 01:35 PM
i think it means b mcain and others will be gone

That's my thought as well.

J_R
04-30-2011, 01:35 PM
Broncos select Julius Thomas, TE, Portland State

Tailgate
04-30-2011, 01:36 PM
exactly....say goodbye to brice mccain & antwan molden.

goodbye!!!

adboy
04-30-2011, 01:37 PM
I assume we will make a big push to sign Ike Taylor. However, thus far, here are our DB options.

CBs: Jackson, Allen, Harris, Carmichael, Paymah
S: Nolan, Quinn, McManis, Williams, Baker

if that is what we go into the season with (which we really shouldn't) rick smith. gary kubiak and talent evaluators should be fired on the spot

LikeMike
04-30-2011, 01:37 PM
I assume we will make a big push to sign Ike Taylor. However, thus far, here are our DB options.

CBs: Jackson, Allen, Harris, Carmichael, Paymah
S: Nolan, Quinn, McManis, Williams, Baker

CBs look better than Ss. But both don`t really look good... perhaps we can still grab Deunta Williams in the 5th (that would be a steal).

badboy
04-30-2011, 01:37 PM
the wyoming guy was gone to jax, and why not brandon burtonYeah that was an email I sent to a poster. I am having problems with my cut & paste on new puter.

The Pencil Neck
04-30-2011, 01:37 PM
I'll have to take some time to warm up to this one. He wasn't one of the guys on my want list.

Can he play S? We've got a logjam at CB now.

XI CMURDER IX
04-30-2011, 01:38 PM
CBs look better than Ss. But both don`t really look good... perhaps we can still grab Deunta Williams in the 5th (that would be a steal).

I personally think that the safeties still left will drop to one of our picks. :kingkong:

gary
04-30-2011, 01:39 PM
I am not sure I like the CB pick.

J_R
04-30-2011, 01:39 PM
I'll have to take some time to warm up to this one. He wasn't one of the guys on my want list.

Can he play S? We've got a logjam at CB now.

And not necessarily a good logjam. Got quantity, not quality.

adboy
04-30-2011, 01:39 PM
from the youtube video it seems he played safety as well as corner

infantrycak
04-30-2011, 01:40 PM
Reeks of Rick Smith

Love it. So when a pick is liked it is Wade's and then when one isn't it is Smith's. Classic.