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Blake
04-21-2011, 12:53 PM
Here is how I see the first round shaking out.

1. Carolina Panthers-Marcel Dareus

2. Denver Broncos-Patrick Peterson

3. Buffalo Bills-Cam Newton

4. Cincinnati Bengals-A.J. Green

5. Arizona Cardinals-Blaine Gabbert

6. Cleveland Browns-Von Miller

7. San Francisco 49ers-Robert Quinn

8. Tennessee Titans-Nick Fairley

9. Dallas Cowboys-Tyron Smith

10. Washington Redskins-Prince Amukamara

11. Houston Texans-Aldon Smith

12. Minnesota Vikings-Jake Locker

13. Detroit Lions-Da’Quan Bowers

14. St. Louis Rams-Julio Jones

15. Miami Dolphins-Ryan Mallett

16. Jacksonville Jags-Ryan Kerrigan

17. New England Patriots-Cameron Jordan

18. San Diego Chargers-J.J. Watt

19. New York Giants-Corey Liuget

20. Tampa Bay Buccaneers-Akeem Ayers

21. Kansas City Chiefs-Nate Solder

22. Indianapolis Colts-Anthony Castonzo

23. Philadelphia Eagles-Gabe Carimi

24. New Orleans Saints-Mark Ingram

25. Seattle Seahawks-Jimmy Smith

26. Baltimore Ravens-Cameron Heyward

27. Atlanta Falcons-Muhammad Wilkerson

28. New England Patriots-Aaron Williams

29. Chicago Bears-Mike Pouncey

30. New York Jets-Martez Wilson

31. Pittsburgh Steelers-Rodney Hudson

32. Green Bay Packers-Brandon Harris

The1ApplePie
04-21-2011, 01:14 PM
11. Houston Texans-Aldon Smith

Probably right:toropalm:

The guy is a clone of Aaron "Still no sacks" Maybin

kiwitexansfan
04-21-2011, 01:26 PM
I love Dareus at the top.

Best choice for the Panthers.

b0ng
04-21-2011, 01:45 PM
Why do you think the Texans would take Smith in the first round as opposed to Bowers, Jordan or Watt?

Blake
04-21-2011, 02:04 PM
Why do you think the Texans would take Smith in the first round as opposed to Bowers, Jordan or Watt?

Bowers looks like a 4-3 DE to me. I think the others all rate out at about the same area. 15 or so. Even though 5 techs are coveted for the 3-4 defense, pass rushers are more valuable. Especially to a team that has Mario Williams, Antonio Smith and a couple others that might be able to play DE. I am assuming they will put Aldon at pass rush OLB.

I would rather have Quinn but I think he will go higher than 11.

Blake
04-21-2011, 02:11 PM
Probably right:toropalm:

The guy is a clone of Aaron "Still no sacks" Maybin

I am not the biggest Smith fan, but I dont think he is a Maybin clone. Smith is a little heavier, and I think Buffalo stinted his growth by putting him at DE.

BigBull17
04-21-2011, 02:18 PM
I think at least three qb's will be taken ahead of us.

Blake
04-21-2011, 02:25 PM
I think at least three qb's will be taken ahead of us.

Who and where?

I agree with you, but I didnt project trades.

beerlover
04-22-2011, 04:30 PM
If three are selected before Texans two of those will under achieve expectations. Not based just off sheer talent but fit & complimentry pieces around them.

Wolf6151
04-23-2011, 04:30 AM
11. Houston Texans-Aldon Smith



No offense intended but I sure hope your wrong. Smith is a great athlete but he's 2 yrs. away from being a good/great 4-3 DE, he is not a 3-4 OLB.

gary
04-23-2011, 11:19 AM
Bowers and Suh as starters for the Lions. Yikes.

Maddict5
04-23-2011, 01:11 PM
Probably right:toropalm:

The guy is a clone of Aaron "Still no sacks" Maybin

:rolleyes:

quite different actually. maybin was/is an undersized 4-3 de that relies nearly totally on his speed and was a 20 yr old, 1 season wonder who turned that in a top 15 pick.

smith is a prototypically sized 3-4 olb. he's the same size as demarcus ware & is a very good athlete also who had quite a bit of success rushing from inside also (where hand speed & violence are needed more)

in fact, if your looking for a player w/ some similarities to maybin, von miller would be alot closer

No offense intended but I sure hope your wrong. Smith is a great athlete but he's 2 yrs. away from being a good/great 3-4 DE, he is not a 3-4 OLB.

how'd you figure that? as above, hes a perfect sized 3-4 olb


my hope for the #11 pick is that we will get robert quinn but im gonna be good if its aldon smith also. its a pretty logical pick tahts quite likely to happen so prepare yourselves for it

YoungTexanFan
04-23-2011, 10:32 PM
:rolleyes:

quite different actually. maybin was/is an undersized 4-3 de that relies nearly totally on his speed and was a 20 yr old, 1 season wonder who turned that in a top 15 pick.

smith is a prototypically sized 3-4 olb. he's the same size as demarcus ware & is a very good athlete also who had quite a bit of success rushing from inside also (where hand speed & violence are needed more)

in fact, if your looking for a player w/ some similarities to maybin, von miller would be alot closer



how'd you figure that? as above, hes a perfect sized 3-4 olb


my hope for the #11 pick is that we will get robert quinn but im gonna be good if its aldon smith also. its a pretty logical pick tahts quite likely to happen so prepare yourselves for it


Look, I'm not a big Von Miller fan like everyone else. He's good enough, but not top 3 talent. However, he produced multiple years in a row and played with his hand off the ground. That isn't Maybin at all. I don't think Smith will be quite as much of a bust as Everett Brown and Maybin (and God did I hate those picks in their draft classes) but I think he'll be in the Jason Babin group. He's got NFL size unlike the other two guys everyone on this board loved. He isn't a DeMarcus Ware talent. Not even close. I've been able to see a lot of his games/reviews due to my location. He's not a football player. I don't think Cam Jordan is going to be anything special at all, and I'd reach for him (IMO) at #11 before I even thought about taking Smith.

VTexan
04-24-2011, 12:24 AM
I think it is real hard to pass up Quinn or Julio Jones at that point.

BigBull17
04-27-2011, 07:42 AM
Who and where?

I agree with you, but I didnt project trades.

Cam 1st to Carolina(yuck)

Gabbert to Buffalo

Locker to Tenn.

I wouldn't do these, but I think it will happen. Mallet to Minnesota. Or swap Mallet with Locker.

Blake
04-27-2011, 07:57 AM
Cam 1st to Carolina(yuck)

Gabbert to Buffalo

Locker to Tenn.

I wouldn't do these, but I think it will happen. Mallet to Minnesota. Or swap Mallet with Locker.

I am thinking we are a good trade up partner for anyone who wants Locker or Mallet ahead of Minnesota. If either are left.

BigBull17
04-27-2011, 08:05 AM
I am thinking we are a good trade up partner for anyone who wants Locker or Mallet ahead of Minnesota. If either are left.

Yeah. I think we'll somehow screw it up though.

El Tejano
04-27-2011, 08:19 AM
Here is how I see the first round shaking out.

1. Carolina Panthers-Marcel Dareus Cam Newton

2. Denver Broncos-Patrick Peterson Nick Fairley

3. Buffalo Bills-Cam Newton Marcel Dareus

4. Cincinnati Bengals-A.J. Green AJ Green

5. Arizona Cardinals-Blaine Gabbert Von Miller

6. Cleveland Browns-Von Miller Robert Quinn

7. San Francisco 49ers-Robert Quinn Patrick Peterson

8. Tennessee Titans-Nick Fairley Da'Quan Bowers

9. Dallas Cowboys-Tyron Smith Prince Amukamara

10. Washington Redskins-Prince Amukamara Julio Jones

11. Houston Texans-Aldon Smith

12. Minnesota Vikings-Jake Locker Blaine Gabbert

13. Detroit Lions-Da’Quan Bowers Tyron Smith

14. St. Louis Rams-Julio Jones Ryan Kerrigan

15. Miami Dolphins-Ryan Mallett Mark Ingram

16. Jacksonville Jags-Ryan Kerrigan Cameron Jordan

17. New England Patriots-Cameron Jordan Cory Luiget

18. San Diego Chargers-J.J. Watt Anthony Castonzo

19. New York Giants-Corey Liuget Mike Pouncey

20. Tampa Bay Buccaneers-Akeem Ayers Adrian Clayborn

21. Kansas City Chiefs-Nate Solder Justin Houston

22. Indianapolis Colts-Anthony Castonzo Brandon Harris

23. Philadelphia Eagles-Gabe Carimi

24. New Orleans Saints-Mark Ingram Muhammed Wilkerson

25. Seattle Seahawks-Jimmy Smith Ryan Mallet

26. Baltimore Ravens-Cameron Heyward Tory Smith

27. Atlanta Falcons-Muhammad Wilkerson Jimmy Smith

28. New England Patriots-Aaron Williams Nate Solder

29. Chicago Bears-Mike Pouncey Jason Pinkston

30. New York Jets-Martez Wilson Rahim Moore

31. Pittsburgh Steelers-Rodney Hudson Derek Sherrod

32. Green Bay Packers-Brandon Harris JJ Watt

We had the same pick for two out of the 32. Ironically Houston who I had taking Aldon Smith and Philadelphia who I had taking Carimi also.

Blake
04-28-2011, 07:56 AM
HAPPY DRAFT DAY!!!

I still hear the rumors of Newton #1 to the Panthers but I will believe it when I see it.

#1 They drafted Jimmy Claussen last year with a 2nd round pick.
#2 They dont have a 2nd round pick this year meaning this pick must contribute immediately. They cant just sit on the bench learning for 2 years.
#3 The owner is frugal, and wont want to spend #1 QB money. Especially on a project QB.
#4 Steve Smith isnt happy in Carolina, and is a liability to assume will be there next year.
#5 Gave up over 123 rushing yards per game. Good for 22nd.

If the Panthers cant trade out of the #1 spot they will take Marcell Dareus or A.J. Green.

That being said, I know this is a QB driven league, and certain teams can become drunk on a players physical talents, it is at least possible that the Panthers take Newton and tell their fans not to expect playoffs for at least 3 years as they rebuild around Newton.

kiwitexansfan
04-28-2011, 08:37 AM
HAPPY DRAFT DAY!!!

I still hear the rumors of Newton #1 to the Panthers but I will believe it when I see it.

#1 They drafted Jimmy Claussen last year with a 2nd round pick.
#2 They dont have a 2nd round pick this year meaning this pick must contribute immediately. They cant just sit on the bench learning for 2 years.
#3 The owner is frugal, and wont want to spend #1 QB money. Especially on a project QB.
#4 Steve Smith isnt happy in Carolina, and is a liability to assume will be there next year.
#5 Gave up over 123 rushing yards per game. Good for 22nd.

If the Panthers cant trade out of the #1 spot they will take Marcell Dareus or A.J. Green.

That being said, I know this is a QB driven league, and certain teams can become drunk on a players physical talents, it is at least possible that the Panthers take Newton and tell their fans not to expect playoffs for at least 3 years as they rebuild around Newton.

Newton, Dareus, Peterson and Green are said to be in the mix but Newton is the favourite from what I have read/listened to.

I still think Dareus is the smart move.

BigBull17
04-28-2011, 09:02 AM
HAPPY DRAFT DAY!!!

I still hear the rumors of Newton #1 to the Panthers but I will believe it when I see it.

#1 They drafted Jimmy Claussen last year with a 2nd round pick.
#2 They dont have a 2nd round pick this year meaning this pick must contribute immediately. They cant just sit on the bench learning for 2 years.
#3 The owner is frugal, and wont want to spend #1 QB money. Especially on a project QB.
#4 Steve Smith isnt happy in Carolina, and is a liability to assume will be there next year.
#5 Gave up over 123 rushing yards per game. Good for 22nd.

If the Panthers cant trade out of the #1 spot they will take Marcell Dareus or A.J. Green.

That being said, I know this is a QB driven league, and certain teams can become drunk on a players physical talents, it is at least possible that the Panthers take Newton and tell their fans not to expect playoffs for at least 3 years as they rebuild around Newton.

If they had the same coach that picked Clausen, I would agree, but Rivera wants to make this his team.

Blake
04-28-2011, 09:45 AM
If they had the same coach that picked Clausen, I would agree, but Rivera wants to make this his team.

And they will be his team when he puts his stamp on their defense. Spags is a recent example of a defensive minded coach skipping the QB's in 2008 and 2009, getting a tackle and D end. In 2010, 2 years into his HC job he got his franchise QB from Oklahoma.