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srrono
02-20-2011, 03:29 PM
The NFL Combine starts this week on Thursday as Texans fans who do we watch out for?
List your top 3 round picks for the Texans and 1 sleeper pick 3rd round and lower.
Also can talk about strengths and weakness of players during combine.


Texans Draft needs in no order
CB-FS-SS-OLB-NT-WR-OL

Texans needs chart (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/team-needs/AFC/South)

Official Invite List (http://www.nflcombine.net/players/official-invite-list?phpMyAdmin=149c4ae6f291t47037166)


Info on Combine Coverage (http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d81e57e76/article/nfl-combine-coverage-on-nfl-network-and-nflcom)

Texas T
02-20-2011, 03:40 PM
So CBS thinks we need:

SS-Agree
FS-Agree
CB-Agree
TE-What the...??

So this must be where Smithiak gets their draft ideas from...So look for four more TEs in the draft.

Texan4Ever
02-20-2011, 04:02 PM
So CBS thinks we need:

SS-Agree
FS-Agree
CB-Agree
TE-What the...??

So this must be where Smithiak gets their draft ideas from...So look for four more TEs in the draft.


Why is TE a need for us? We have a boatload of TEs, as for everything else I agree.

srrono
02-20-2011, 04:07 PM
1st pick
Akeem Ayers OLB UCLA
Height: 6-4
Weight: 254
Strengths
* All-around linebacker prospect - Equally adept stopping the run, rushing the QB or dropping into coverage
* Ideal size and bulk for a linebacker
* Great athlete - strong, fast and agile
* Makes plays sideline to sideline
* Strong recognition skills - quickly diagnoses plays
* Can play in 4-3 (SLB) or 3-4 (rush)
* Flashes his upside as a pass rusher
* Displays playmaking ability - 2 INTs, 2 FF, 4 Sacks and 10 TFL in 2010
* Active - does not give up on plays
* Captain as a junior
* 2 year starter
Weaknesses
* Ideal skill set for a linebacker but leaves you wanting more consistency and physicality
* Many project Ayers as a rush linebacker but he has not displayed those skills consistently at UCLA - just 9 sacks past two years
* Gets hung up on blocks
* Misses too many tackles
* Over pursues at times
* Overly reliant on his athleticism


2nd rd
Stephen Paea, DT, Oregon St.
Strengths
* Has shined despite commanding double teams the past two years
* Weight room warrior - a challenger for bench press champ at combine
* Excellent athleticism for a defensive tackle - former Rugby player
* Good burst off the snap
* Plays with good leverage and balance
* Can make plays down the line and in the backfield
* Non-stop motor
* Above average pass rusher - 7 sacks as a senior
* Experienced 3 year starter
* Leader - Two time team captain
* 2010 Pac 10 Defensive Player of the Year
Weaknesses
* Short for a defensive tackle
* May not fit all schemes
* Durability - has battled knee injuries throughout his college career
* Has been inconsistent at times - dominant some weeks but a non-factor at times
* Raw - has only been playing football since he was 16

May not be availible in 2nd rd hoping he slips due to knee injury
I am looking forward to seeing this kid attemping to break the bench press record.

3rd
Quinton Carter Oklahoma S
Height: 6-1
Weight: 195
Strengths
* Big hitting safety prospect
* Above average speed
* Shows good range and anticipation in coverage
* Always around the ball
* Above average ball skills - gets his hands on a lot of balls
* Has experience at both free and strong safety
* Had 97 tackles (59 solo), 4 interceptions, and 6 PBU his senior year
* Great character, founded SOUL (Serving Others through Unity and Leadership) his sophomore year
Weaknesses
* Needs to improve his man coverage skills
* Gets a little high in his backpedal
* Average change of direction and agility
* Often tackles high, needs to get lower when making contact


Sleeper
Casey Matthews Oregon LB
Height: 6-2
Weight: 235
Strengths
* Instinctive middle linebacker
* Great bloodlines (Brother and Father both NFL linebackers)
* Always around the football - good awareness and anticipation
* High football IQ - diagnoses plays
* Determined - gives great effort
* Wrap up tackler
* Looks comfortable in coverage
* 2.5 year starter
Weaknesses
* Undersized for a middle linebacker
* Needs to get stronger
* Lacks ideal speed and agility
* Struggles to run with backs and tight ends in coverage
* Struggles to shed blocks
* Stiff hips
* Not a big hitter

srrono
02-20-2011, 04:10 PM
Why is TE a need for us? We have a boatload of TEs, as for everything else I agree.

because of Daniels contract status maybe I think we need Owen Daniels but can survive with out him Dreessen filled in well plus we still have Casey.

Lucky
02-20-2011, 07:21 PM
Why is TE a need for us?
Because they're the Houston Texans and that's what they do.*

* with apologies to Joe Texan

ArlingtonTexan
02-23-2011, 12:04 PM
1st pick
Akeem Ayers OLB UCLA
Height: 6-4
Weight: 254
Strengths
* All-around linebacker prospect - Equally adept stopping the run, rushing the QB or dropping into coverage
* Ideal size and bulk for a linebacker
* Great athlete - strong, fast and agile
* Makes plays sideline to sideline
* Strong recognition skills - quickly diagnoses plays
* Can play in 4-3 (SLB) or 3-4 (rush)
* Flashes his upside as a pass rusher
* Displays playmaking ability - 2 INTs, 2 FF, 4 Sacks and 10 TFL in 2010
* Active - does not give up on plays
* Captain as a junior
* 2 year starter
Weaknesses
* Ideal skill set for a linebacker but leaves you wanting more consistency and physicality
* Many project Ayers as a rush linebacker but he has not displayed those skills consistently at UCLA - just 9 sacks past two years
* Gets hung up on blocks
* Misses too many tackles
* Over pursues at times
* Overly reliant on his athleticism


2nd rd
Stephen Paea, DT, Oregon St.
Strengths
* Has shined despite commanding double teams the past two years
* Weight room warrior - a challenger for bench press champ at combine
* Excellent athleticism for a defensive tackle - former Rugby player
* Good burst off the snap
* Plays with good leverage and balance
* Can make plays down the line and in the backfield
* Non-stop motor
* Above average pass rusher - 7 sacks as a senior
* Experienced 3 year starter
* Leader - Two time team captain
* 2010 Pac 10 Defensive Player of the Year
Weaknesses
* Short for a defensive tackle
* May not fit all schemes
* Durability - has battled knee injuries throughout his college career
* Has been inconsistent at times - dominant some weeks but a non-factor at times
* Raw - has only been playing football since he was 16

May not be availible in 2nd rd hoping he slips due to knee injury
I am looking forward to seeing this kid attemping to break the bench press record.

3rd
Quinton Carter Oklahoma S
Height: 6-1
Weight: 195
Strengths
* Big hitting safety prospect
* Above average speed
* Shows good range and anticipation in coverage
* Always around the ball
* Above average ball skills - gets his hands on a lot of balls
* Has experience at both free and strong safety
* Had 97 tackles (59 solo), 4 interceptions, and 6 PBU his senior year
* Great character, founded SOUL (Serving Others through Unity and Leadership) his sophomore year
Weaknesses
* Needs to improve his man coverage skills
* Gets a little high in his backpedal
* Average change of direction and agility
* Often tackles high, needs to get lower when making contact


Sleeper
Casey Matthews Oregon LB
Height: 6-2
Weight: 235
Strengths
* Instinctive middle linebacker
* Great bloodlines (Brother and Father both NFL linebackers)
* Always around the football - good awareness and anticipation
* High football IQ - diagnoses plays
* Determined - gives great effort
* Wrap up tackler
* Looks comfortable in coverage
* 2.5 year starter
Weaknesses
* Undersized for a middle linebacker
* Needs to get stronger
* Lacks ideal speed and agility
* Struggles to run with backs and tight ends in coverage
* Struggles to shed blocks
* Stiff hips
* Not a big hitter

Not sure where this fits into the combine watch?

Blake
02-23-2011, 12:16 PM
On Texans Radar.

ALL

BigBull17
02-23-2011, 01:36 PM
Sleeper
Casey Matthews Oregon LB
Height: 6-2
Weight: 235
Strengths
* Instinctive middle linebacker
* Great bloodlines (Brother and Father both NFL linebackers)
* Always around the football - good awareness and anticipation
* High football IQ - diagnoses plays
* Determined - gives great effort
* Wrap up tackler
* Looks comfortable in coverage
* 2.5 year starter
Weaknesses
* Undersized for a middle linebacker
* Needs to get stronger
* Lacks ideal speed and agility
* Struggles to run with backs and tight ends in coverage
* Struggles to shed blocks
* Stiff hips
* Not a big hitter

I've seen way to many Texans LB's with this problem, no thanks.

IDEXAN
02-23-2011, 01:51 PM
Stephen Paea was knocked out of the Senior bowl because of an injury, hamstring I think ? So is he supposed to be fully recovered and ready to workout at Indy ?

Trap_Star
02-23-2011, 01:55 PM
Stephen Paea was knocked out of the Senior bowl because of an injury, hamstring I think ? So is he supposed to be fully recovered and ready to workout at Indy ?

torn meniscus. he's only going to lift, interview and take the wonderlich.

playa465
02-23-2011, 05:20 PM
1st pick
Akeem Ayers OLB UCLA
Height: 6-4
Weight: 254
Strengths
* All-around linebacker prospect - Equally adept stopping the run, rushing the QB or dropping into coverage
* Ideal size and bulk for a linebacker
* Great athlete - strong, fast and agile
* Makes plays sideline to sideline
* Strong recognition skills - quickly diagnoses plays
* Can play in 4-3 (SLB) or 3-4 (rush)
* Flashes his upside as a pass rusher
* Displays playmaking ability - 2 INTs, 2 FF, 4 Sacks and 10 TFL in 2010
* Active - does not give up on plays
* Captain as a junior
* 2 year starter
Weaknesses
* Ideal skill set for a linebacker but leaves you wanting more consistency and physicality
* Many project Ayers as a rush linebacker but he has not displayed those skills consistently at UCLA - just 9 sacks past two years
* Gets hung up on blocks
* Misses too many tackles
* Over pursues at times
* Overly reliant on his athleticism


He better improve on this b/c at the NFL level he won/t last long doing those things...missing tackles has been an achilles heel for us

Wolf6151
02-24-2011, 02:34 AM
Three players that I think will be high on the Texans watch list are:

Jimmy Smith-CB, he's rising up draft boards lately, has great size, and CB is a major team weakness.
Phil Taylor-NT, obviously NT is a team weakness and I think the interview will be more important than the workouts for him. Teams will want to know that he's not just working out hard and losing weight just for his big pay day.
Justin Houston-OLB, also a major team need and Von Miller and Robert Quinn will most likely be gone by #11. He could be a target after a trade down.

Sleepers:

Jarvis Jenkins-DT, great athleticism with potential to be considered a steal in a couple years.
K.J. Wright-OLB, good size, speed, and college production but is flying under most peoples radar.


The Combine will be very important for Robert Quinn and Marvin Austin since no one has seen them play in over a year and both could be 1st or 2nd round picks.

bah007
02-24-2011, 06:24 PM
Three players that I think will be high on the Texans watch list are:

Jimmy Smith-CB, he's rising up draft boards lately, has great size, and CB is a major team weakness.
Phil Taylor-NT, obviously NT is a team weakness and I think the interview will be more important than the workouts for him. Teams will want to know that he's not just working out hard and losing weight just for his big pay day.
Justin Houston-OLB, also a major team need and Von Miller and Robert Quinn will most likely be gone by #11. He could be a target after a trade down.

Sleepers:

Jarvis Jenkins-DT, great athleticism with potential to be considered a steal in a couple years.
K.J. Wright-OLB, good size, speed, and college production but is flying under most peoples radar.


The Combine will be very important for Robert Quinn and Marvin Austin since no one has seen them play in over a year and both could be 1st or 2nd round picks.

Love the shout out to Wright. I'm a fan of his. Wouldn't mind taking him later on in the draft.

Wolf6151
02-26-2011, 05:09 AM
Love the shout out to Wright. I'm a fan of his. Wouldn't mind taking him later on in the draft.

I think he's got good size and average speed that he can be good at OLB or eventually be very good at ILB. He might take a year to develope but he offers very good backup talent and eventually very good starting potential. I feel the same way about Jarvis Jenkins-DT from Clemson, very athletic and moves well laterally for a big man. He might also take a year to develope but could be very good at NT after some time spent on an NFL level weight training program.

srrono
02-26-2011, 03:58 PM
Nate Solder has been impressing in the combine drills today talk of him moving in the top ten of the draft which would mean that 1 more highly rated defensive player gets pushed back for the Texans to select.He was projected as a mid to late 1st rounder

Height:6'8"
Weight:319 lbs.
Arm Length:35 1/2 in.
Hand Size:9 7/8 in.
College:Colorado
Conference:Big 12
Position:OL

Brandon420tx
02-26-2011, 09:58 PM
I liked the top heavy center, I think he used to be a linebacker. Kris Dowd or something

srrono
02-27-2011, 09:38 AM
By Dan Arkush

INDIANAPOLIS — Right off the bat, it was hard to get a good read on Dontay Moch.

Widely projected as an outside linebacker — he's ranked seventh at the position in the Pro Football Weekly 2011 Draft Media Guide — the Nevada product stood on the podium in his Combine interview early Saturday afternoon with the national media wearing a "DL" jersey.

It seems like a real stretch to imagine Moch as a potential defensive end at the pro level. But he did line up as a defensive end much of the time at Nevada and said the NFL teams that have talked to him think he could possibly play off the edge up front — provided he gains enough weight.

But outside linebacker figures to be a much more likely position at the pro level for Moch, who possesses one quality that he hopes will open lots of eyes in his Combine workouts Monday: his rare speed.

Moch has cranked out consistent 40-times in the range of 4.3-4.4 seconds and was an accomplished track star in high school in Arizona.

Moch, who weighed only 204 pounds his freshman year, tipped the scales at 245 pounds in his Combine weigh-in and acknowledged the obvious questions that have popped up regarding his poundage.

"Gaining weight will not affect my speed at all," Moch said confidently. "It will just give me more power. My speed isn't just straight-line, although that's what primarily allows me to get to the passer. l can also change direction real well."

Moch averaged eight-plus sacks his last three years at Nevada. "I consider myself a hybrid Terrell Suggs," he said. "I've been mimicking his game since high school."

Moch also estimates that he covered opposing wide receivers probably 20-30 percent of the time at Nevada. When asked to provide an example of his coverage ability, he quickly brought up one game against Boise State, when he deftly broke up a pass intended for highly regarded WR Titus Young.

"I was lined up in a 4-3 and dropped back on a flat route," Moch said. "Titus came right around the corner, and I was there to break up the pass."

Moch was asked why the word "raw" has been used so frequently to describe him — a legitimate query considering that he displayed lots of flashes at Nevada but never totally dominated relatively inferior competition.

"I do a lot of things that seem impossible, and I guess a lot of people just see me as raw because of that," Moch said. "I just want people to see all the things I can do out there on the field, no matter what the situation, and how I can just go full force."

On a lighter note (no pun intended), Moch was asked if he was faster than teammate Colin Kaepernick, one of the higher-rated quarterbacks in this year's draft.

"You can check that out in the next couple of days," Moch said with a big smile. "He (Kaepernick) is a great runner. I'm not going to say anything bad about my boy."

http://www.profootballweekly.com/2011/02/26/moch-hopes-his-rare-speed-raises-eyebrows-at-combi

srrono
02-27-2011, 09:51 AM
By Nolan Nawrocki

WR Julio Jones, #8 (Junior)
Alabama | Grade: 6.50
Ht: 6-2¾ | Wt: 220 | Sp: 4.41 | Arm: NA | Hand: NA

Notes: Parade and USA Today All-American who was named "Mr. Football" in the state of Alabama after he finished his prep career with 194 receptions for 3,287 yards (16.9-yard average) and 43 touchdowns. Also was honored as the state's Gatorade Track and Field Athlete of the Year. Made an immediate impact as a true freshman in '08 when he started all 14 games at the "X" receiver and produced 58-924-4 (15.9), setting Alabama's freshman receiving records in the process. In January '09, underwent surgeries to repair damage in his left shoulder and left wrist, then had hernia surgery in the spring. Recorded 43-596-4 (13.9) in 13 starts at the "X" receiver for the national champs. Led the Tide in receiving for the third straight season in '10, registering 78-1,133-7 (14.5) receiving with 8-135-2 (16.9) rushing and 5-129 (25.8) on kickoff returns in 13 starts at the "X' receiver. Bruised his right knee against Florida International and sat out against North Texas. Broke his left hand against South Carolina but didn't miss any games and caught a school-record 12-221-0 against Tennessee two weeks after having pins and screws inserted in his hand. Returned 12 punts in his career for 130 yards (10.8).

Positives: Extremely competitive. Terrific football temperament. Very physically and mentally tough — plays with a chip on his shoulder and battles through pain, playing through injuries that very few would have. Powers off the line, can separate with speed and savvy and climb defensive backs. Very physical runner after the catch — drops his shoulder and brandishes a wicked stiff-arm. Does not go down without a fight and sometimes requires a herd of defenders to bring him down. Very good run strength and competitive playing speed — took a reverse for a 56-yard TD against Mississippi State and ran through and away from defenders. Competes for the ball in traffic and shows great concentration — excellent catching radius. Could take a lick and hold on to the ball. Has strong hands, can make one-handed snags (see San Jose State), attacks the ball in the air and routinely makes difficult catches look easy. Well-versed in a pro-style offense and ran an NFL route tree — understands how to read coverage, sift through zones and uncover. Aggressive, physical blocker — erases cornerbacks. Outstanding work ethic — takes great pride in his craft. Interviewed very well at the Combine — is a very grounded, mature, unselfish, team player.

Negatives: A bit tight-hipped and straight-linish with noticeable body stiffness. Builds to top speed, is not overly sudden off the line of scrimmage and struggles some beating press coverage against big cornerbacks — see LSU vs. Patrick Peterson (although he was playing the second half of the season with a broken hand). Is not elusive in the open field, often slamming directly into contact. Has been injured every year in college and will have more difficulty staying healthy for the length of an NFL season given his aggressive style of play and overall tightness. Could get in and out of breaks more quickly. Inconsistent connecting as a blocker. Struggled with drops earlier in his career and has been contained vs. Florida the last two seasons and against Texas in the BCS Championship. Injury history needs to be evaluated.

Summary: A very physical West Coast receiver who showed he could dominate against the big boys from the time he stepped on campus and will walk into an NFL starting lineup from Day One and make an immediate, playmaking impact. Can hold down a No. 1 receiving job and become a premier, Pro Bowl-caliber NFL pass catcher if he can manage to stay healthy. Would be an excellent fit for the Redskins, Ravens or 49ers. Long-term durability is the only notable concern.

NFL projection: Top-10 pick.

srrono
02-27-2011, 10:08 AM
A TE? LOL
This kids combine numbers are the best for a TE since 2000 Will Coach K fall in love oh I hope not LOL

Nevada TE Green’s numbers hard to ignore
By Frank Tadych
INDIANAPOLIS – It’s never a bad thing to show up at the NFL Scouting Combine and post measurables that grab people’s attention. If nothing else, it could force teams to go back and take another look at game film.

Nevada TE Virgil Green might have put himself in that category Saturday.

Green posted the second-best combine numbers among tight ends since 2000 in both the vertical jump (42.5 inches) and the broad jump (10 feet, 10 inches). He also posted the third-best 40-yard dash time (4.64 seconds) among tight ends who ran.

NFL Network analyst Charles Davis expected Green to test well but called the numbers “a big surprise.”

The biggest question for Green will be if he can translate those numbers during games. Green, who measured in at 6-foot-3 and 249 pounds, was listed at No. 5 in Mike Mayock’s tight end rankings entering the combine.

http://blogs.nfl.com/2011/02/26/nevada-te-green-numbers-hard-to-ignore/

Lucky
02-27-2011, 10:29 AM
srrono, we need to consolidate your player profile threads. There are over 300 prospects in this draft, and we will have this thread buried if they all get individual profile threads.

stingray
02-27-2011, 11:04 AM
Julio Jones just broad jumped 10' 11".

srrono
02-27-2011, 12:09 PM
srrono, we need to consolidate your player profile threads. There are over 300 prospects in this draft, and we will have this thread buried if they all get individual profile threads.

1 was a profile others were events with in the combine but ok I'll just stop looking for content.

Dutchrudder
02-27-2011, 02:27 PM
1st: Akeem Ayers. OLB

2nd: whichever DT that falls, Fua, Paea, Taylor

3rd: whichever safety/cb falls.

Sleeper: jeff fuller WR from A&M.

Lucky
02-27-2011, 03:14 PM
Sleeper: jeff fuller WR from A&M.
You're going to have a long nap waiting for Fuller to come off the board. Like sometime in April, 2012, as Fuller is returning for his Senior season at College Station.

Dutchrudder
02-27-2011, 03:55 PM
You're going to have a long nap waiting for Fuller to come off the board. Like sometime in April, 2012, as Fuller is returning for his Senior season at College Station.

Ah I missed that. Well, Terrence Tolliver, WR LSU then. I'm just thinking that we will spend a 1-3 pick on a WR...

thunderkyss
02-27-2011, 06:25 PM
Marcell Dareus,

Why no talk about him? If there's a nose tackle in this draft, I think he's the one.

steelbtexan
02-27-2011, 06:49 PM
Marcell Dareus,

Why no talk about him? If there's a nose tackle in this draft, I think he's the one.

He probably wont be there at #11.

If the Texans hadn't won the Jag game Dareus probably would be a Texan at pick #6. Oh well spilled milk.

Dutchrudder
02-27-2011, 09:05 PM
He probably wont be there at #11.

If the Texans hadn't won the Jag game Dareus probably would be a Texan at pick #6. Oh well spilled milk.

But that one win made up for going 2-8 down the stretch!

steelbtexan
02-27-2011, 09:10 PM
But that one win made up for going 2-8 down the stretch!

LOL

Man, the Texans are dysfunctional.

Trap_Star
02-27-2011, 09:21 PM
all the 3-4 OLB prospects...

justin houston will open up a bunch of eyes tomorrow. that's my guy @11 and has been for awhile now.

quinn should be the star of the show and should cement himself as a top 7 prospect.

miller should also do well. might run a sub 4.5

i wanna see how kerrigan does in the agility drills.

brandon harris' height will hurt him big time. unless he runs a 40 in the 4.3s he might slip completely out of the 1st. this is a bad draft to be a shorter CB.

aussie_texan
02-27-2011, 09:25 PM
all the 3-4 OLB prospects...

justin houston will open up a bunch of eyes tomorrow. that's my guy @11 and has been for awhile now.

quinn should be the star of the show and should cement himself as a top 7 prospect.

miller should also do well. might run a sub 4.5

i wanna see how kerrigan does in the agility drills.

brandon harris' height will hurt him big time. unless he runs a 40 in the 4.3s he might slip completely out of the 1st. this is a bad draft to be a shorter CB.

yeah im really interested to see how all these guys go.
slowly slowly the offseason is taking shape

thunderkyss
02-27-2011, 11:21 PM
He probably wont be there at #11.

That's not stopping people from wetting their pants over Von Miller.

If the Texans hadn't won the Jag game Dareus probably would be a Texan at pick #6. Oh well spilled milk.

I can understand fans being upset we didn't win enough games. I can't understand being upset because we won too many. Especially when we only won 6.

Wolf6151
02-27-2011, 11:42 PM
He probably wont be there at #11.

If the Texans hadn't won the Jag game Dareus probably would be a Texan at pick #6. Oh well spilled milk.

With QB's, WR's, and LT's moving up the board possibly into the top 10 I think there's a chance that either Amukamara, Dareus or both could fall to us at #11. Dareus came into the Combine having gained some weight that the scouts apparently don't like, from what I've read. It wouldn't surprise me if we had to choose between these 2 guys when we pick.

Also Justin Houston gained some weight prior to the Combine and weighed in at 270 lbs., that has to hurt him and move him down some boards.

bah007
02-28-2011, 12:35 PM
With QB's, WR's, and LT's moving up the board possibly into the top 10 I think there's a chance that either Amukamara, Dareus or both could fall to us at #11. Dareus came into the Combine having gained some weight that the scouts apparently don't like, from what I've read. It wouldn't surprise me if we had to choose between these 2 guys when we pick.

Also Justin Houston gained some weight prior to the Combine and weighed in at 270 lbs., that has to hurt him and move him down some boards.

Why would that hurt him if it is good weight?

Wolf6151
02-28-2011, 12:48 PM
Why would that hurt him if it is good weight?

I guess it depends on the type of weight, but after the season most players start working out hard for the Combine by losing weight, gaining strength, and athleticism. Houston added 15 lbs. and I've read that the scouts aren't real happy with that weight gain because it's projected to hurt him in pass coverage. Most guys get slower when they add weight and it also makes me question his dedication and/or intelligence if he's gaining weight when most are losing it by working hard.

bah007
02-28-2011, 12:52 PM
I guess it depends on the type of weight, but after the season most players start working out hard for the Combine by losing weight, gaining strength, and athleticism. Houston added 15 lbs. and I've read that the scouts aren't real happy with that weight gain because it's projected to hurt him in pass coverage. Most guys get slower when they add weight and it also makes me question his dedication and/or intelligence if he's gaining weight when most are losing it by working hard.

Then again, maybe he is gaining it by working hard.

I do understand your point. But not everyone cuts weight for the combine. Some guys bulk up a little bit.

Wolf6151
02-28-2011, 11:40 PM
Justin Houston
Georgia
6-3 height
270 weight
4.63 in the 40
30 reps. at 225 lbs.
36.5 vertical
34 1/2 Arm

His speed was decent/average, vertical was good and bench reps. were good but I'd still like to see him lose some weight and gain some speed. He's playing OLB, not MLB. Here's what Walterfootball had to say about him.

Justin Houston, DE, Georgia
Two arrows for Justin Houston? I'll explain. Houston bulked up to 6-3, 270 this weekend, but didn't lose any of his speed; he ran a 4.63 40 and also notched a 36.5-inch vertical. That's the reason for the up arrow. The down arrow is for his scheme versatility. After watching him perform in the drills, I'd be very uncomfortable having him in a 3-4. While he's improved his status for 4-3 teams, he also may have deterred some franchises that run the 3-4.

Trap_Star
02-28-2011, 11:42 PM
^ i guess they didn't get the memo that he played in the 3-4 at georgia.

WolverineFan
03-01-2011, 09:44 AM
I guess it depends on the type of weight, but after the season most players start working out hard for the Combine by losing weight, gaining strength, and athleticism. Houston added 15 lbs. and I've read that the scouts aren't real happy with that weight gain because it's projected to hurt him in pass coverage. Most guys get slower when they add weight and it also makes me question his dedication and/or intelligence if he's gaining weight when most are losing it by working hard.

You realize that Von Miller put on 12 lbs since the Senior Bowl and he blazed a 4.46 and tested extremely well across the board. Was that bad weight?

WolverineFan
03-01-2011, 09:46 AM
Marcell Dareus,

Why no talk about him? If there's a nose tackle in this draft, I think he's the one.

I don't even see him as a Nose. He's the ideal 5' tech in a 3-4. Very disruptive, penetrating style and great size. A good pass rusher for his size and skill set and great against the run.

kiwitexansfan
03-01-2011, 09:47 AM
You realize that Von Miller put on 12 lbs since the Senior Bowl and he blazed a 4.46 and tested extremely well across the board. Was that bad weight?

Must be on the same 'training' regime as Cushing.

Honoring Earl 34
03-01-2011, 10:23 AM
Justin Houston
Georgia
6-3 height
270 weight
4.63 in the 40
30 reps. at 225 lbs.
36.5 vertical
34 1/2 Arm

His speed was decent/average, vertical was good and bench reps. were good but I'd still like to see him lose some weight and gain some speed. He's playing OLB, not MLB. Here's what Walterfootball had to say about him.

Justin Houston, DE, Georgia
Two arrows for Justin Houston? I'll explain. Houston bulked up to 6-3, 270 this weekend, but didn't lose any of his speed; he ran a 4.63 40 and also notched a 36.5-inch vertical. That's the reason for the up arrow. The down arrow is for his scheme versatility. After watching him perform in the drills, I'd be very uncomfortable having him in a 3-4. While he's improved his status for 4-3 teams, he also may have deterred some franchises that run the 3-4.

http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=10128&draftyear=2007&genpos=de

Rey
03-01-2011, 10:51 AM
You realize that Von Miller put on 12 lbs since the Senior Bowl and he blazed a 4.46 and tested extremely well across the board. Was that bad weight?

I really hope we find a way to get him...

Honoring Earl 34
03-01-2011, 04:27 PM
http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=10128&draftyear=2007&genpos=de

http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=57020&draftyear=2009&genpos=OLB

http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=69063&draftyear=2011&genpos=OLB

http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=74933&draftyear=2011&genpos=OLB

http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=70476&draftyear=2011&genpos=DE

http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=68308&draftyear=2011&genpos=DE

http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=71744&draftyear=2011&genpos=DE

http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=68930&draftyear=2011&genpos=OLB

The1ApplePie
03-01-2011, 05:27 PM
CBS is claiming that Bowers is dropping on boards...

just sayin'

http://eye-on-football.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/22475988/27704569

Trap_Star
03-01-2011, 08:58 PM
CBS is claiming that Bowers is dropping on boards...

just sayin'

http://eye-on-football.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/22475988/27704569

i like bowers but he's strictly a weakside DE in a 4-3.

steelbtexan
03-01-2011, 09:15 PM
That's not stopping people from wetting their pants over Von Miller.

True


I can understand fans being upset we didn't win enough games. I can't understand being upset because we won too many. Especially when we only won 6.

For the record, even though it would be better for the Texans to lose. So they would be in on the top end players. I cant ever root for the Texans to lose. I'm just not wired that way. Texans win!!!!!!

With that said how many meaningless games have the Texans won over the last 5 yrs? Answer with four 5-7 seasons in a row ALOT.

thunderkyss
03-01-2011, 09:22 PM
With that said how many meaningless games have the Texans won over the last 5 yrs? Answer with four 5-7 seasons in a row ALOT.

No such thing as a meaningless game. Especially with our team. I'd rather they looked at every game as a must win, or as "the most important game in team history."

Especially if I'm in the stands.

I don't care if they are 2-13, lose the last game & they get the #1 overall pick, win, & they drop to #11.

I'm rooting for them ba@#$s to play their asses of & win.

When they've got home field advantage & a bye week, then we can start talking about meaningless games.

They should avoid losing like the bubonic plague.