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HoustonFrog
02-18-2011, 02:59 PM
Don't shoot the messenger. It's the offseason so I thought this topic would be good to post. The guy has only been to a small amount of the stadiums but is going off of what he has seen on TV and what others have told him too. Lambeau is 1. Dallas 2. Houston 16, which I don't get.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=nfp-20110217_ranking_the_nfl_stadiums

Lam

dc_txtech
02-18-2011, 03:19 PM
This is what they said about Reliant

The architecture is outstanding and the amenities are first class, but the venue lacks any legitimate history and is populated by fans who have never seen their team qualify for the postseason.

So it's not really ranking the stadiums as much as it is the franchise....

Ole Miss Texan
02-18-2011, 03:58 PM
This is what they said about Reliant

So it's not really ranking the stadiums as much as it is the franchise....

Haha, I hear you. I partially agree with the author too though. Reliant isn't a place people really WANT to go travel and see. Don't get me wrong, it's really really nice. But it doesn't pop out to me if my team were traveling and I wanted to go to an away game. Places like Labeau... Wrigley Field... etc Something about the history of it makes it enticing.

BIG TORO
02-18-2011, 04:08 PM
This is stupid, Last year there was an article saying reliant came in 3rd behind Cowboys and Ravens. I know our stadium is alot better than what this stupid article says!

Showtime100
02-18-2011, 05:39 PM
This is what they said about Reliant



So it's not really ranking the stadiums as much as it is the franchise....

No kidding! Right? If they are going to rank a stadium, rank the stadium for crying out loud. I believe that Reliant is better than the Superdome but I can at least understand the bonus points for being near Bourbon Street (in my poll those points would get cancelled out because the whole thing is in New Orleans, though)

Oh well, it's just a web ranking. Tailgating should have bumped us up though. :)

Dutchrudder
02-18-2011, 05:46 PM
It took me a while to figure out that there are only 31 stadiums in the NFL cause the Jets and Giants share. This is why I shouldn't drink beer at 11am...

srrono
02-18-2011, 11:48 PM
article says Texans stadium is directly across from the "SuperDome" LOL

DBCooper
02-19-2011, 12:35 AM
No kidding! Right? If they are going to rank a stadium, rank the stadium for crying out loud. I believe that Reliant is better than the Superdome but I can at least understand the bonus points for being near Bourbon Street (in my poll those points would get cancelled out because the whole thing is in New Orleans, though)

Oh well, it's just a web ranking. Tailgating should have bumped us up though. :)

The Superdome is a shiitehole, no literally, there's good reason the refugees went there

RazorOye
02-19-2011, 08:40 AM
The Superdome is a shiitehole

while I think "****hole" is a bit strong a term for the Superdome, it was in dire need of changes - even since the changes made following Katrina.

The exterior now looks much better - with the roof work and the new exterior panels.

They are investing 85 million in interior renovations and the exterior grand staircase to get ready for the Saints, the BCS Championship and the NCAA Final Four next year and the 2013 Super Bowl:

http://www.nola.com/saints/index.ssf/2011/01/final_phase_of_superdome_facel.html

Workers are making drastic changes to the lower bowl of the stadium, reconfiguring it to increase seating by 3,500, widening the plaza concourse, building two bunker club lounges and adding additional concession stands.

"Phase by phase, this will be a brand new stadium," Saints owner/executive Rita Benson LeBlanc said.

"We are completely tearing out the existing steel deck bowl and replacing it with a pre-cast concrete deck. It's a reconfiguration of the seats. The seats are moving closer to the field, more in line with the NFL standard of today. There will be 3,500 new seats in the lower bowl."

Plans also call for two 7,500-square-foot bunker lounges on each side of the stadium. The lounges will be equipped with flat-screen TVs, granite counter tops and full-service bars. The lounges will serve 4,500 fans, whose old plaza seats will be upgraded to premium tickets, giving those fans leather chairs with cup-holders.

The concourses on the plaza level also will be extended, closing in space between the concourse and plaza seating to add new restrooms and concession areas.

Also, the plaza outside the stadium at Gates A and C will be widened, making it easier for fans to get into the Dome. And all elevator cabs will be upgraded.

"In the 36-year history of this building, we are about to see the most visible and transformable change that we have ever seen," said Doug Thornton, the regional vice president of SMG, the company that manages the Dome

here are some renderings of the changes:

http://www.superdome.com/piclib/262.jpg

http://www.superdome.com/piclib/259.jpg

http://www.superdome.com/piclib/260.jpg

long overdue, imo, and I'm glad to see the changes coming!

drs23
02-19-2011, 09:58 AM
while I think "****hole" is a bit strong a term for the Superdome, it was in dire need of changes - even since the changes made following Katrina.

The exterior now looks much better - with the roof work and the new exterior panels.

They are investing 85 million in interior renovations and the exterior grand staircase to get ready for the Saints, the BCS Championship and the NCAA Final Four next year and the 2013 Super Bowl:

http://www.nola.com/saints/index.ssf/2011/01/final_phase_of_superdome_facel.html



here are some renderings of the changes:

http://www.superdome.com/piclib/262.jpg

http://www.superdome.com/piclib/259.jpg

http://www.superdome.com/piclib/260.jpg

long overdue, imo, and I'm glad to see the changes coming!

Looks really nice. So long ****hole. ;^)

Showtime100
02-19-2011, 10:41 AM
So it gets upgraded to feces depot, big deal. :D

Koolaid Time
02-19-2011, 08:49 PM
I still don't get the "attraction" as to why I should pay thousands of dollars over a season to go to a Football Stadium and sit in a 'Bar in the Club Level' and watch the game on a wide screen TV.....

When I could go to Kay's Lounge, Griff's Pub or my Brother-in-Law's Media Room and watch the game on a 60 inch LED TV for free and drink far less expensive alcohol.

Kimmy
02-20-2011, 10:49 AM
Link (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=nfp-20110217_ranking_the_nfl_stadiums)

16. Reliant Stadium (Houston Texans)

Seating Capacity: 71,500
Playing Surface: Grass
Opened: 2002

The first facility in the NFL to have a retractable roof, Reliant Stadium is the exact opposite of the Superdome.

The architecture is outstanding and the amenities are first class, but the venue lacks any legitimate history and is populated by fans who have never seen their team qualify for the postseason.

Give the people something to cheer about, and Iíll bump you up. Until then, nothing here really stands out. Sure, the actual stadium is nice, but how often do you hear people talking about Reliant the way they talk about Qwest or Lucas Oil?

OrangeLotPole8
02-20-2011, 11:03 AM
I read that about an hour ago, was surprised, I thought the stadium would be higher ranked than middle of the pack.

False Start
02-20-2011, 11:03 AM
Lame (not your post). Reliant is top notch. :texflag:

Imatexanfan
02-20-2011, 11:19 AM
I read that yesterday being ranked in the middle of the pack with rest of those losers. I really thought we should have been ranked at least in the top 3 but hey that goes to show how the "rest" of the NFL sees our beloved Texans organization...then takes a low blow because we haven't made the playoffs yet...wow...:roast:

Wolf
02-20-2011, 11:30 AM
2. History: Has the joint opened recently and never hosted a playoff game (i.e. Houston), or do you get chills when exiting the concourse and viewing the field thinking about what has taken place there (i.e. Chicago)?

3. Weather: Football was meant to be played outdoors, so the domes are going to take a slight hit in the rankings. This also applies to tailgating. It’s easier to grill burgers and pound beers in San Diego than it is in Minnesota


what I don't get with #3 is that, I thought I have heard that the NFL tells the Texans if they can have the roof open or not.

#2. I guess they don't sit by or take the same exit as TB :texanbill: :runaway:

CloakNNNdagger
02-20-2011, 12:25 PM
what I don't get with #3 is that, I thought I have heard that the NFL tells the Texans if they can have the roof open or not.

#2. I guess they don't sit by or take the same exit as TB :texanbill: :runaway:

I don't believe that is correct. The NFL has only dictated a uniform policy of all moveable roof stadiums.............within 90 minutes of game time, the decision must be made to have the roof open or closed. If the game begins with the roof closed, the roof must remain closed for the entire game. If during the game, officials close the roof due to adverse or changing weather conditions, officials cannot reopen the roof and it must remain closed for the rest of the game.

The only other rules apply to the last 5 minutes of a game and for overtime.........During the final five minutes of the fourth quarter of any regular play game, officials cannot close the retractable roof regardless of adverse or changing weather conditions. If the game goes into overtime, the officials cannot close the roof anytime before or during the sudden death overtime game play. However, if the weather becomes hazardous to fans and players, like in the case of lightning or hail, NFL officials can decide to close the roof for everyone's protection.

Each team makes their own criteria for determining their initial decision for closed or open roof.

The vertical construction of Reliant has made it such that it becomes a relative "hot box" during medium to high temperature days, especially when the sun is out. Even when present, very little wind gets into the stadium to cool things off. Thus the 80 degree cutoff determined by the Texans. Bowl shaped, more horizontally constructed stadiums, are very much "heat friendly."

ubecool454
02-20-2011, 01:39 PM
Link (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=nfp-20110217_ranking_the_nfl_stadiums)

The guy that wrote that article invited fans to respond by email. Well I sent him one and he did respond. "Thanks for reaching out and for reading the article. I completely understand that most people
disagree with what I've written and get your point that I haven't been to most of the stadiums.

But at the same time, I tried to make it clear that this article was just in fun and meant to stir a debate. I
understand people are passionate about their teams, but my intention was never to offend anybody.

Thanks again for reaching out. I appreciate it."


Joe Fortenbaugh
National Football Post.com

Brisco_County
02-20-2011, 02:25 PM
16. Reliant Stadium (Houston Texans)

Seating Capacity: 71,500
Playing Surface: Grass
Opened: 2002

The first facility in the NFL to have a retractable roof, Reliant Stadium is the exact opposite of the Superdome.

The architecture is outstanding and the amenities are first class, but the venue lacks any legitimate history and is populated by fans who have never seen their team qualify for the postseason.

Give the people something to cheer about, and I’ll bump you up. Until then, nothing here really stands out. Sure, the actual stadium is nice, but how often do you hear people talking about Reliant the way they talk about Qwest or Lucas Oil?

I actually agree with this assessment completely. Superior architecture for practical needs, if not very expressive or interesting. Incredible tailgating, but the team has no significant history. I think he ranked it correctly.

A strong history like a couple of Superbowl wins and regular playoff appearances would move Reliant into the top five.

I think he also ranked the top three accurately. Seattle's stadium is impressive.

eriadoc
02-20-2011, 02:39 PM
what I don't get with #3 is that, I thought I have heard that the NFL tells the Texans if they can have the roof open or not.

#2. I guess they don't sit by or take the same exit as TB :texanbill: :runaway:

#2 - our team has created itself a history of losing.

#3 - the 50/80 Rule is to blame here. The roof is open on Reliant once or twice a year. That's just dumb for a retractable roof. I get the 80 degree limit, since we have baked asphalt instead of frozen tundra. But the 50 degree lower limit is just asinine. For the same reason that 80 is pretty darn hot in the sun (little to no air movement), you can open the roof in December at Reliant (little to no wind chill).

Yankee_In_TX
02-20-2011, 04:55 PM
Who cares what some guy says about the stadium? He even says he has not been to them all.

I don't get why some times folks get riled up at articles like this....

Anyone of you could make up your own criteria and arbitrarily rate the stadiums :)

Ranger Tom
02-21-2011, 05:26 PM
Just look at these comments (http://stadiumblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2009/08/how-is-tailgating-going-at-cow.html) on what tailgating is like at Cowboys Stadium. It actually made me feel sympathy for their fans. That alone should keep Jerry's Clubhouse out of the top ten.

Texan_Bill
02-21-2011, 07:45 PM
while I think "****hole" is a bit strong a term for the Superdome, it was in dire need of changes - even since the changes made following Katrina.

The exterior now looks much better - with the roof work and the new exterior panels.

They are investing 85 million in interior renovations and the exterior grand staircase to get ready for the Saints, the BCS Championship and the NCAA Final Four next year and the 2013 Super Bowl:

http://www.nola.com/saints/index.ssf/2011/01/final_phase_of_superdome_facel.html



here are some renderings of the changes:

http://www.superdome.com/piclib/262.jpg

http://www.superdome.com/piclib/259.jpg

http://www.superdome.com/piclib/260.jpg

long overdue, imo, and I'm glad to see the changes coming!

Ummm, a bunch of us went to the Texans pre-season game there and guess what?? It's still a **** hole... Granted, their fans were great the atmosphere rocked and we all had a fantastic time. That said, at the end of the day, it's still a **** hole...

Give the people something to cheer about, and Iíll bump you up. Until then, nothing here really stands out. Sure, the actual stadium is nice, but how often do you hear people talking about Reliant the way they talk about Qwest or Lucas Oil?

When he's right, he's right. I can't really argue that logic...

RazorOye
02-22-2011, 06:34 AM
Ummm, a bunch of us went to the Texans pre-season game there and guess what?? It's still a **** hole... Granted, their fans were great the atmosphere rocked and we all had a fantastic time. That said, at the end of the day, it's still a **** hole...


Ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm you realize these are changes in the future, right? So last pre-season isn't what I'm talking about.

As I said - I think it was certainly in need of some changes. Dumpy - yea, in a lot of ways. ****hole, I think is strong, but if that's your word, okay.

But I'm not sure what your comment about a pre-season game in the past has to do with the planned renovations that weren't started back then and won't be completed for quite a while, yet.

Texan_Bill
02-22-2011, 09:57 AM
Ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm you realize these are changes in the future, right? So last pre-season isn't what I'm talking about.

As I said - I think it was certainly in need of some changes. Dumpy - yea, in a lot of ways. ****hole, I think is strong, but if that's your word, okay.

But I'm not sure what your comment about a pre-season game in the past has to do with the planned renovations that weren't started back then and won't be completed for quite a while, yet.

Yeah, because I don't remember the "major" renovations to the Astrodome. :rolleyes: (and I love the Dome and miss the ole girl, but she too was a ****hole).

My comments were based on the supposed renovations that took place after Katrina. Once a ****hole, always a **** hole.

Yankee_In_TX
02-22-2011, 10:03 AM
http://www.texanstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=80128

My response:

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Who cares what some guy says about the stadium? He even says he has not been to them all.

I don't get why some times folks get riled up at articles like this....

Anyone of you could make up your own criteria and arbitrarily rate the stadiums

Texan_Bill
02-22-2011, 10:06 AM
http://www.texanstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=80128

My response:

YUP... Pretty much agree.

RazorOye
02-22-2011, 10:13 AM
My comments were based on the supposed renovations that took place after Katrina.

In other words, totally unrelated to the renovations I was specifically talking about in my post.

Thanks for the clarification :)

Texan_Bill
02-22-2011, 10:17 AM
In other words, totally unrelated to the renovations I was specifically talking about in my post.

Thanks for the clarification :)

No worries.

We did have a blast, though. Can't wait to make that trip again, although the ride home seemed to be twice as long as the ride there.

RazorOye
02-22-2011, 10:40 AM
No worries.

We did have a blast, though. Can't wait to make that trip again, although the ride home seemed to be twice as long as the ride there.

hopefully the improvements to the interior will be more noticeable than the post-Katrina changes

but it's Louisiana, so probably 1/3 of the changes will actually happen and it will cost more than expected and the seats you bought tickets for will no longer exist :facepalm:

Hardcore Texan
02-22-2011, 02:07 PM
while I think "****hole" is a bit strong a term for the Superdome, it was in dire need of changes - even since the changes made following Katrina.

The exterior now looks much better - with the roof work and the new exterior panels.

They are investing 85 million in interior renovations and the exterior grand staircase to get ready for the Saints, the BCS Championship and the NCAA Final Four next year and the 2013 Super Bowl:

http://www.nola.com/saints/index.ssf/2011/01/final_phase_of_superdome_facel.html


here are some renderings of the changes:

http://www.superdome.com/piclib/262.jpg

http://www.superdome.com/piclib/259.jpg

http://www.superdome.com/piclib/260.jpg

long overdue, imo, and I'm glad to see the changes coming!

Bunch of racist! Only showing white people!

z_man57
02-22-2011, 03:39 PM
Bunch of racist! Only showing white people!

Racist!!!

Only racists see color!!!

Keeping with the thread's topic...

What I see looks pretty cool, I'd be happy to attend.

Double Barrel
02-22-2011, 05:04 PM
This guy doing stadium "reviews" sounds like a tool from the posts in this thread. His criteria is whack. I won't even bother checking out the site as I do not want to give him any traffic.

The basis for judging a football stadium should be directly correlated to, you know, actually watching a freakin' football game. Reliant has the closest sight-line of any NFL stadium. Simply meaning that no matter where you sit in it, you are closer to the action on the field than any other stadium out there. The seats are comfy even up in nosebleeds and we even have cupholders! +1 for Reliant where it should matter the most.

The concourses at Reliant are wonderful. I rarely feel trapped, even in crowds. The amount of outside light on the concourses is fantastic, and it really opens up the feeling of the concourses. There are plenty of refreshment places and lots of nice clean restrooms. Access is simple and has three options to the upper levels: escalator, ramps, or stairs. I can get from lvl 600 to the ground floor in a matter of minutes, even when the game just ended, if I take the stairs. +1 for Reliant on fan accommodation.

The grounds are top notched, and as a yellow lotter, I have always enjoyed the walk through the practice facility to get to the stadium. Location is good, being close to a freeway, but also easy to access from the city. Tailgating is top-notched, both from the aspect of fans and from an organizational support. I honestly don't believe it can be done better, even in the classic tailgating cities. +1 on grounds, location, tailgating accommodation.

As far as a destination spot, do we want a theme park or a badass stadium built to watch football games? While I'm sure Jerrah's palace is wonderful, I'll take Reliant any day as a hardcore football fan. I'm watching the game when I'm there, so all the other fluff is irrelevant to me.

I'm not sure what this moron is trying to evaluate when considering other factors to rate stadiums, but his opinion to me is about as worthless as tits on a boar-hog. I certainly won't waste my time reading any of his apparent drivel.

HoustonFrog
02-23-2011, 08:11 AM
I like both Reliant and the new Cowboy Stadium. As a football fan in general I'll tell you that I was more impressed in person with JerryWorld than I ever thought I'd be. It was a beautiful place. Incredibly done and world class. That is whay I was surprised they tried to trick it up so much for the SB. I also think Reliant is a great venue and that it was very easy to get around and watch a game. Definitely higher than this ranking.

Double Barrel
02-23-2011, 11:20 AM
I like both Reliant and the new Cowboy Stadium. As a football fan in general I'll tell you that I was more impressed in person with JerryWorld than I ever thought I'd be. It was a beautiful place. Incredibly done and world class. That is whay I was surprised they tried to trick it up so much for the SB. I also think Reliant is a great venue and that it was very easy to get around and watch a game. Definitely higher than this ranking.

It looks like a really nice place and I certainly plan to visit it for a Texans pre-season game down the road.

However, and this is not a knock, I've been told that you feel really far away from the action if you sit in the cheap seats. I guess there is a reason whey they need 60 yard long television screens, 'eh? :winky:

HoustonFrog
02-23-2011, 11:47 AM
It looks like a really nice place and I certainly plan to visit it for a Texans pre-season game down the road.

However, and this is not a knock, I've been told that you feel really far away from the action if you sit in the cheap seats. I guess there is a reason whey they need 60 yard long television screens, 'eh? :winky:

Maybe. I'm sure it is for some. I sat on the Silver Club Level. My brother that works for them has 2 seats to every game and that is where they are. I know Club level has a different feel but I thought convenience to bathrooms, bar, food, etc was incredible for a Sunday night game vs Eagles. I also thought the view we had was good. We were just below eye level of the jumbotron. Great view and seats. You do catch yourself watching the TV. It feels like 3D. If a player is looking at the camera and it is being shown it feels like you can reach out and touch it. Thus and incredible amount of gratuitous cheerleader shots during the game. Overall when I walked in I was amazed at the inner corridors with art work up, etc. It seemed louder than Texas stadium too. I definitely think everyone should at least go once to see what they think. Even as a Cowboy fan I wasn't prepared to love it but it exceeded expectations. I'll also say that there are some silly things that make the expereince "so Jerry" but you just laugh.(cage dancers)

cdollaz
02-23-2011, 04:32 PM
Our closing the roof when it gotta a little cold (perfect football weather) last year was pathetic and we deserve to drop a few spots because of that. That was embarassing.

SteveSlaton20
02-23-2011, 07:12 PM
IDK if any of y'all noticed but this guy already said he's only been to 3 stadiums. So basically his opinion is irrelevant.

Norg
02-23-2011, 08:47 PM
its true we are not has loud and pack it like we used 2 i know it was the first game ... but remember our first game in 2002

it was packed and it was so loud it would knock the ball off the T during kick offs

rush2112mn
02-24-2011, 07:15 AM
I think if your going to rank stadiums......playoff appearances have nothing to do with it....it should be about the fan experience at a regular season game.....all the way from parking access/traffic management...to tailgating...to concessions ...to seating....at least that is my opinion.....

Malloy
02-25-2011, 01:49 AM
I would like to be the first to formally blame Reliant Stadium for our lack of playoffs!

Texecutioner
02-25-2011, 01:55 AM
I thought the guy's stance was pretty accurate if that's what he's using to gauge these teams. The Texans are looked at as a very weak and soft organization around the league. We're right there with the Lions as far as that goes. Our stadium is nice, but it's not like it's some brand new stadium that's only 3 years old anymore. It's been there for 10 years now.