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HoustonFrog
02-10-2011, 01:27 PM
McShay has his 3.0 up. Big difference from the 2.0 one I posted earlier. This is from Insider.

http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft2011/insider/news/story?id=6101352

Has the Titans taking Prince Amukamara at #8, Cowboys taking JJ Watt, DE Wisconsin at #9 and Texans taking Jimmy Smith, CB Colorado at #11.

dc_txtech
02-10-2011, 01:39 PM
I really don't see us taking a DB with our first pick but thanks for sharing.

Mr teX
02-10-2011, 01:47 PM
please god no....not another db in the 1st. not only b/c i wouldn't like it, but b/c i heard/read somewhere that the secondary seems to be an area phillips has struggled with shoring up via the draft & FA over his career as a d-coordinator. Someone tell me i heard wrong about that...... please....

HoustonFrog
02-10-2011, 01:57 PM
I have read where Jimmy Smith's workouts have been crazy good and he is racing up boards....but I don't think they take him there.

If anyone is wondering they have Von Miller going at #3 to Buffalo.

Seņor Stan
02-10-2011, 02:13 PM
The last thing I want is a 1st round corner. The. Last. Thing.

2+ Free agent vets to the secondary, Front Seven Defensive stud in the 1st round.

Ole Miss Texan
02-10-2011, 02:37 PM
Peterson slipping out of the Top 5? With the Titans taking Prince at #8, I assume McShay has Peterson at #6 to the Browns or #7 to the 49'ers?

If it's the Browns, then probably Dareus to the 9'ers. Who's he got the Redskins taking, Julio Jones? I'd take Julio over Jimmy Smith, if he were available.

beerlover
02-10-2011, 02:43 PM
Does anyone know what the Texans will do? They have a pretty solid reputation for draft day surprises :vincepalm:

steelbtexan
02-10-2011, 02:52 PM
Does anyone know what the Texans will do? They have a pretty solid reputation for draft day surprises :vincepalm:

No,

But I'm sure we will be treated to another OkOye/Jackson type experience.

Mr teX
02-10-2011, 03:07 PM
Okoye was the consensus right pick by most experts...can't fault them for that one. Duane Brown & jackson out of left field...another story. Not saying that Brown has been bad for us so far...

JB
02-10-2011, 03:07 PM
Peterson slipping out of the Top 5? With the Titans taking Prince at #8, I assume McShay has Peterson at #6 to the Browns or #7 to the 49'ers?

If it's the Browns, then probably Dareus to the 9'ers. Who's he got the Redskins taking, Julio Jones? I'd take Julio over Jimmy Smith, if he were available.

1. Bowers
2. Fairley
3. Miller
4. Green
5. Gabbert
6. Dareus
7. Peterson
8. Amukamara
9. Watt
10. Newton
11. Jimmy Smith
12. Quinn
13. Solder
14. Jones
15. Ingram
16. Clayborn
17. Jordan
18. A. Smith
19. Tyron Smith
20. Kerrigan
21. Ayers
22. Castonzo
23. Carimi
24. Houston
25. Locker
26. Cobb
27. Pouncey
28. Watkins
29. Liuget
30. Taylor
31. Ijalana
32. Wilkerson

Texecutioner
02-10-2011, 03:13 PM
Okoye was the consensus right pick by most experts...can't fault them for that one. Duane Brown & jackson out of left field...another story. Not saying that Brown has been bad for us so far...

Disagree on Okoye. I hated that pick from the jump. He was to young and he was a project player. The Texans were never in any position to be picking project players. Michael Griffin was available at the time and we were in a huge need of a safety. I think Willis was available at that time as well.

Blake
02-10-2011, 03:14 PM
For once can we pass on the guys that have been shooting up the draft boards and take the one that has been there all along?

Blake
02-10-2011, 03:16 PM
Disagree on Okoye. I hated that pick from the jump. He was to young and he was a project player. The Texans were never in any position to be picking project players. Michael Griffin was available at the time and we were in a huge need of a safety. I think Willis was available at that time as well.

I agree with your points. But, no huge reason to take Willis with Ryans just drafted the year before. Although Griffin and Revis were still on the board.

Texecutioner
02-10-2011, 03:28 PM
I agree with your points. But, no huge reason to take Willis with Ryans just drafted the year before. Although Griffin and Revis were still on the board.

Easy to look at Revis in hind sight and call that one a mistake, but with CB's man they're hard to judge. Revis was a top CB that year, but I don't think any GM expected him to be that good. I never had a problem with the Texans picking Jackson. I had a problem with them doing nothing the past two off seasons prior to where "they had" to pick Jackson because they were in a corner. Jackson looked like he'd be a pretty good CB and I still think he has the potential to be.

I somewhat can agree with you on the Willis thing, but that he was a "can't miss" kind of guy as well as what Griffin looked to be like and we needed a safety bad and still do unfortunately.

Mr teX
02-10-2011, 03:29 PM
Disagree on Okoye. I hated that pick from the jump. He was to young and he was a project player. The Texans were never in any position to be picking project players. Michael Griffin was available at the time and we were in a huge need of a safety. I think Willis was available at that time as well.

I hated the pick as well but it was mainly b/c i didn't think Okoye was anything special from a talent standpoint to begin with. but what i was really trying to say is i don't think anyone outside of the organization lambasted them for reaching or had Okoye way off the radar from where we actually picked him.

Texecutioner
02-10-2011, 04:00 PM
I hated the pick as well but it was mainly b/c i didn't think Okoye was anything special from a talent standpoint to begin with. but what i was really trying to say is i don't think anyone outside of the organization lambasted them for reaching or had Okoye way off the radar from where we actually picked him.

That part is true and we did need a DT still at the time. The position was definitely one of need, but just not for a project type of player.

Mr. White
02-10-2011, 04:22 PM
For once can we pass on the guys that have been shooting up the draft boards and take the one that has been there all along?

Speaking of Am0bi Ok0ye.....

Seems like he came on real strong at the Senior Bowl and the Combine that year. God knows he hasn't done anything since then.

Maybe there was a few guys on the board that didn't like the pick, but I don't remember any of the Kipers or McShays having a bad word to say about the pick at the time.

TexansSeminole
02-10-2011, 04:28 PM
Disagree on Okoye. I hated that pick from the jump. He was to young and he was a project player. The Texans were never in any position to be picking project players. Michael Griffin was available at the time and we were in a huge need of a safety. I think Willis was available at that time as well.

I agree with Texecutioner. I was against the okoye pick from the start. I was high on Willis and Griffin...pretty sure we both were.

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The1ApplePie
02-10-2011, 04:55 PM
Speaking of Am0bi Ok0ye.....

Seems like he came on real strong at the Senior Bowl and the Combine that year. God knows he hasn't done anything since then.

Maybe there was a few guys on the board that didn't like the pick, but I don't remember any of the Kipers or McShays having a bad word to say about the pick at the time.

Okoye is the ***** college recruit at age 19. A flat-out beast. Only problem was, he also peaked at 19, like most of the overhyped recruits.

Outside of Suh, most first round DTs haven't done much in the past five years or so.

steelbtexan
02-10-2011, 05:10 PM
Disagree on Okoye. I hated that pick from the jump. He was to young and he was a project player. The Texans were never in any position to be picking project players. Michael Griffin was available at the time and we were in a huge need of a safety. I think Willis was available at that time as well.

I wanted Willis at the time of the Okoye was taken. But thought OkOye wasn't a bad pick. As it turned out OkOye was an awful pick.

Looking forward this is why I hope BoB spends the $$$$ to get a vet NT that has a proven track record and Gary/Rick/Wade or whoever runs the band of idiots that the Texans call a war room. Have the foresight to draft a developmental NT like Ellis/Fua in the 3/4 th rd area.

The problem with the draft in the Kubiak era is they always draft for need early in the draft and dont draft the BPA or trade down to aquire more picks so that they are in the slot that BPA meets need. This philosiphy hasn't worked and needs to change. (I dont see it changing with the same people in charge.)

I wouldn't expect Mr.Tex to be able to understand this philosophy. Because in his eyes the Texans BoB/Gary/Rick can do no wrong. Even though their record is what it is and all of the rationalization in the world cant get around their record.

He keeps on trying though. LOL

EllisUnit
02-10-2011, 05:15 PM
http://espn.go.com/blog/afcsouth


No. 11, Houston Texans

Jimmy Smith, CB, Colorado

McShay says: "Kareem Jackson should make big strides in his second season, and Glover Quin should improve in his third season. It would be nice to bring in a veteran cornerback to provide depth and stability, but if the Texans are unable to do so, Smith would be a good pick for them at No. 11. A big, smooth cornerback with the strength, confidence and balance to hold up in press-man coverage, Smith could emerge as one of the most underrated players from the 2011 class."


If the Texans are Unable to bring in a veteran ?!?!?!?!? If Kubiak and Smith leave us in the same position with the kiddie CBs as they did last season and bring in another kiddie CB :vincepalm: i will have to say that they are possibly the worst Coach/GM Duo to ever run a team in the History of the NFL. Forget Drafting a CB, Resign Jason Allen, bring in a Big name CB as our Number 1, then J. Allen as our number 2. Quinn/Jackson play Nickle/Dime our Their DS on the Sidelines, they will be more help doing that than they were last season. :handshake:

JB
02-10-2011, 05:57 PM
http://www.texanstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=79920

thunderkyss
02-10-2011, 07:27 PM
Disagree on Okoye. I hated that pick from the jump. He was to young and he was a project player.

I think your take on this is right on. However, I think the point is that Okoye was the "consensus" pick. We argued about it here on the board, & I believe the majority, or at least a very close majority thought Okoye should have been the pick.


I remember that draft as the one Smithiak did what "everyone" expected them to do.

Even Cushing.... "everybody" thought we would take Matthews...... I wanted Rey-Rey.

Wilson was supposed to be our pick...... understandable by some if the Texans took McCourty. Jackson wasn't on anybody's radar.... except one guy here, maybe rmartin, maybe steelbtexans....

Brown??? who the heck was Brown, big surprise.

& of course Mario. Until the Texans said that Mario was an option, no one saw Mario as a viable #1 overall.

Whatever the Texans are going to do, it's going to surprise everyone. The only exception so far, has been Okoye....

Doppelganger
02-10-2011, 07:41 PM
So we are gonna take a guy who played in the pass happy Big XII and was not even all that good?! Really?! Really?!

rmartin65
02-10-2011, 07:59 PM
Wilson was supposed to be our pick...... understandable by some if the Texans took McCourty. Jackson wasn't on anybody's radar.... except one guy here, maybe rmartin, maybe steelbtexans....



Nope, Jackson was not on my radar. Unfortunately, neither was McCourty. I missed the ball with him, he is looking pretty good while I wanted nothing to do with him before the draft.

mariowillshine15
02-10-2011, 08:04 PM
I dont see how we take Smith over Robert Quinn.

Guy could of garnered #1 pick consideration if he hadnt been suspended.

I would take him over a player who shoots up the draft board due to workouts and not game tape.

JB
02-10-2011, 08:09 PM
I dont see how we take Smith over Robert Quinn.

Guy could of garnered #1 pick consideration if he hadnt been suspended.

I would take him over a player who shoots up the draft board due to workouts and not game tape.

Isn't Quinn more of a 4-3 DE?

Ndevine7
02-10-2011, 08:21 PM
Isn't Quinn more of a 4-3 DE?

yea but im sure he could transfer to a 3-4 olb

JB
02-10-2011, 08:27 PM
yea but im sure he could transfer to a 3-4 olb

Why?

Ndevine7
02-10-2011, 08:29 PM
Why?

Hes an athletic guy that can easily make the switch. He would need to get better in coverage but im sure hed be a good olb

rmartin65
02-10-2011, 08:31 PM
yea but im sure he could transfer to a 3-4 olb

Dont be. Its not as easy as some believe, there are many factors that come into play. How is the guy in space? How is he in the hips (flexibility)? How are his read and react skills? For example, a lot of people are talking up Kerrigan as a rush OLB. I dont see it, he is not that kind of athlete.

mariowillshine15
02-10-2011, 08:31 PM
Isn't Quinn more of a 4-3 DE?

He played 4-3 in college but has the athleticism to transfer to a 3-4.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNoYxbvKxXE

Quinn against Virginia

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqJrjwjf55c

Quinn against Anthony Castonzo who is regarded by some as a late first-second round pick.

steelbtexan
02-10-2011, 08:33 PM
Nope, Jackson was not on my radar. Unfortunately, neither was McCourty. I missed the ball with him, he is looking pretty good while I wanted nothing to do with him before the draft.

I had Iupati in the 1st and Jackson in the 2nd. Iupati was already gone when it was the Texans time to pick.

steelbtexan
02-10-2011, 08:37 PM
He played 4-3 in college but has the athleticism to transfer to a 3-4.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNoYxbvKxXE

Quinn against Virginia

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqJrjwjf55c

Quinn against Anthony Castonzo who is regarded by some as a late first-second round pick.

Most of Quinn's sacks were against Duke and other 2nd tier schools. After studying him closely. If the Texans go OLB in the 1st (I hope they dont) A.Smith or Houston would be my pick.

mariowillshine15
02-10-2011, 08:39 PM
Most of Quinn's sacks were against Duke and other 2nd tier schools. After studying him closely. If the Texans go OLB in the 1st (I hope they dont) A.Smith or Houston would be my pick.

I would welcome those choices although i think Quinn has more upside than both of them.

steelbtexan
02-10-2011, 08:44 PM
I think your take on this is right on. However, I think the point is that Okoye was the "consensus" pick. We argued about it here on the board, & I believe the majority, or at least a very close majority thought Okoye should have been the pick.


I remember that draft as the one Smithiak did what "everyone" expected them to do.

Even Cushing.... "everybody" thought we would take Matthews...... I wanted Rey-Rey.

Wilson was supposed to be our pick...... understandable by some if the Texans took McCourty. Jackson wasn't on anybody's radar.... except one guy here, maybe rmartin, maybe steelbtexans....

Brown??? who the heck was Brown, big surprise.

& of course Mario. Until the Texans said that Mario was an option, no one saw Mario as a viable #1 overall.

Whatever the Texans are going to do, it's going to surprise everyone. The only exception so far, has been Okoye....

Smith has a chance to be the best CB in this draft. (Not that I want the Texans to take him) Holding up on a crappy team Colorada) in a pass happy confrence means the guy can obviously play. The question is how well does that transfer to the NFL?

Smith is kind of stiff in the hips. But he can run. I'm spooked off Smith if iI'm the Texans. Due to the Jackson fiasco. Jackson was a little stiff in the hips also.

JCTexan
02-10-2011, 08:50 PM
Nope, Jackson was not on my radar. Unfortunately, neither was McCourty. I missed the ball with him, he is looking pretty good while I wanted nothing to do with him before the draft.

Weren't you the one who predicted the Duane Brown pick, though?

steelbtexan
02-10-2011, 08:52 PM
I would welcome those choices although i think Quinn has more upside than both of them.

If the Texans want an OLB in the 1st rd. They're in a great spot.

You could be right about Quinn. Time will tell.

Houston has the ability to become like Terrell Suggs. A.Smith has the ability to become Harrison like. Quinn has the ability to become like Haley.

There's less risk taking Houston/Smith than there is Quinn. IMHO

mariowillshine15
02-10-2011, 08:53 PM
If the Texans want an OLB in the 1st rd. They're in a great spot.

You could be right about Quinn. Time will tell.

Houston has the ability to become like Terrell Suggs. A.Smith has the ability to become Harrison like. Quinn has the ability to become like Haley.

There's less risk taking Houston/Smith than there is Quinn. IMHO

If we take any of those guys and they end up as your comparisons i would do cartwheels.

steelbtexan
02-10-2011, 09:02 PM
If we take any of those guys and they end up as your comparisons i would do cartwheels.

Me too

They have the ability. It's about who will put the work in. That's what makes the draft such a crapshoot.

R.Smith gets paid alot of $$$$ to make these decisions and so far his track record is spotty at best to put it kindly. Espcially when it comes to picking defensive players. Which is the side of the ball he focuses his scouting on.

Kubiak focuses scouting the offensive side of the ball. I've read this somewhere but dont have a link.

JB
02-10-2011, 09:10 PM
Me too

They have the ability. It's about who will put the work in. That's what makes the draft such a crapshoot.

R.Smith gets paid alot of $$$$ to make these decisions and so far his track record is spotty at best to put it kindly. Espcially when it comes to picking defensive players. Which is the side of the ball he focuses his scouting on.

Kubiak focuses scouting the offensive side of the ball. I've read this somewhere but dont have a link.

I'm beginning to think more & more that we should take Julio in the first

beerlover
02-10-2011, 09:14 PM
I'm beginning to think more & more that we should take Julio in the first

Julio would be a safe pick, if he's there?

JB
02-10-2011, 09:21 PM
Julio would be a safe pick, if he's there?

I think probably moreso than anyone that is being talked about in the 5-15 range right now.

steelbtexan
02-10-2011, 09:21 PM
Julio would be a safe pick, if he's there?

After all of the reaching and missing Julio would be my pick. He would represent less bust potential than any other player. If he's there at 11.

painekiller
02-10-2011, 09:27 PM
Even Cushing.... "everybody" thought we would take Matthews...... I wanted Rey-Rey.

Wilson was supposed to be our pick...... understandable by some if the Texans took McCourty. Jackson wasn't on anybody's radar.... except one guy here, maybe rmartin, maybe steelbtexans....

Brown??? who the heck was Brown, big surprise.

I had Matthews ahead of Cushing, I hated the Cushing pick at the time, ate crow his rookie season and have sadly seemed vindicated since.

With Jackson, I had McCourty and then Kyle Wilson ahead of him, I had Jackson as a late 1st early 2nd round guy.

The Okoye pick I was screaming for Willis, he could have moved Ryans to Will or played the Sam, have to admit I missed on Revis.

I had Brown as a late 2nd to 3rd round prospect, not a starter from day one type.

thunderkyss
02-10-2011, 09:29 PM
Dont be. Its not as easy as some believe, there are many factors that come into play. How is the guy in space? How is he in the hips (flexibility)? How are his read and react skills? For example, a lot of people are talking up Kerrigan as a rush OLB. I dont see it, he is not that kind of athlete.

It depends. Demarcus Ware rushed the QB 99.98% of the time his first two years. Even now, he doesn't drop into coverage anymore than Mario did in 2009.

rmartin65
02-10-2011, 09:32 PM
Weren't you the one who predicted the Duane Brown pick, though?

Nope. I got the Barwin pick right two years ago, and the Holliday pick last year. Hoping to make it 3 years in a row getting a pick right this year.

rmartin65
02-10-2011, 09:34 PM
It depends. Demarcus Ware rushed the QB 99.98% of the time his first two years. Even now, he doesn't drop into coverage anymore than Mario did in 2009.

Yes and no. It is still a different skill set rushing the passer standing up, versus hand on the ground.

VTexan
02-10-2011, 11:08 PM
I had Matthews ahead of Cushing, I hated the Cushing pick at the time, ate crow his rookie season and have sadly seemed vindicated since.

With Jackson, I had McCourty and then Kyle Wilson ahead of him, I had Jackson as a late 1st early 2nd round guy.



ditto


I also believe we should take Julio if Von Miller isn't there. Julio and Von seem like the safest picks to me.

BigBull17
02-11-2011, 08:38 AM
I just want a bad mother ****er. I don't care what position.

HoustonFrog
02-11-2011, 08:49 AM
Speaking of Am0bi Ok0ye.....

Seems like he came on real strong at the Senior Bowl and the Combine that year. God knows he hasn't done anything since then.

Maybe there was a few guys on the board that didn't like the pick, but I don't remember any of the Kipers or McShays having a bad word to say about the pick at the time.

I wasn't sold on the guy either. He was impressive in the Senior Bowl but honestly I don't remember a thing about his college career where I thought...Top 10.

I think at this point you have to go with one of the DE/OLB that are left..many fit the new scheme...Aldon Smith, Ayers, Kerrigan and Cameron Jordan who plays DT too.

dc_txtech
02-11-2011, 09:19 AM
Weren't you the one who predicted the Duane Brown pick, though?

Porky called Duane Brown.

Revolution
02-11-2011, 09:40 AM
If the Texans are Unable to bring in a veteran ?!?!?!?!? If Kubiak and Smith leave us in the same position with the kiddie CBs as they did last season and bring in another kiddie CB :vincepalm: i will have to say that they are possibly the worst Coach/GM Duo to ever run a team in the History of the NFL. Forget Drafting a CB, Resign Jason Allen, bring in a Big name CB as our Number 1, then J. Allen as our number 2. Quinn/Jackson play Nickle/Dime our Their DS on the Sidelines, they will be more help doing that than they were last season. :handshake:

They won't know if they will be able to sign a CB at the time of the draft if they are still in lockout mode...

Julio Jones or front seven defensive pick for me...

steelbtexan
02-11-2011, 10:26 AM
I called Cushing and Barwin.

Thanks for the rep Senor Stan.

thunderkyss
02-11-2011, 11:48 AM
They won't know if they will be able to sign a CB at the time of the draft if they are still in lockout mode...

Julio Jones or front seven defensive pick for me...

I wonder how Jacoby would be at CB......

beerlover
02-11-2011, 11:55 AM
I called Cushing and Barwin.

Thanks for the rep Senor Stan.

how about four, Tate in 3rd, Mitchell 5th, Shelly Smith & Trindon Holiday 6th. Funny 1st pick never on my screen, how is that possible? I was so mad about it, why are Texans not trading down then taking KJ with two higher rated cb prospects on board (McCourty/Wilson)? rationalized it this way, Texans know what they want, liked his film & Sabin coaching. then impressed @ combine/interview & private workouts, which none of us had access (only tweets). Kareem is not a tweener he's a tweeter. :wadepalm:

Ole Miss Texan
02-11-2011, 11:57 AM
They won't know if they will be able to sign a CB at the time of the draft if they are still in lockout mode...

Julio Jones or front seven defensive pick for me...

Yep. If a CBA isn't agreed to until Sept. (aka when the games should be starting) it's going to be a madhouse scramble trying to get some FAs in here and signing everybody. Then, they're getting to your team for the first time... first practice, if they're lucky.. and then there will be the first game of the season. This year there will probably be a LOT of blown assignments and rusty looking players.

Totally agree on your draft wishes. Julio Jones or front seven for me.

Ole Miss Texan
02-11-2011, 11:58 AM
I wonder how Jacoby would be at CB......

He'd probably be really good at dropping interceptions.

Rey
02-11-2011, 03:35 PM
I would take Julio.

I think he has the most potential to come in and help us from day 1.

76Texan
02-11-2011, 05:47 PM
Nope, Jackson was not on my radar. Unfortunately, neither was McCourty. I missed the ball with him, he is looking pretty good while I wanted nothing to do with him before the draft.Let's not forget that McShay had Haden #1, Wilson #2 & McCourty #3

Discounting Haden, I had McCourty & Jackson neck to neck and Wilson in third place.
The reason I had McCourty slightly ahead was due to McCourty's recovery speed.
Their 40 time at the combine; however, was the same.
After the Texans drafted Jackson, I went back and watched more tapes, I believe in the long term, Jackson will be the better player overall.
(But of course, that will depend on their own circumstaces; how the teams employ them. I don't know for sure about McCourty's work habit, but he seems to be playing hard all the time, so I think he will be fine in that regard. I don't have no problem whatsoever with Jackson in this regard either.)

You guys must remember that McCourty played mostly as a cover 2 corner for the Pats (sometimes he would be in cover 3.)
Regardless of the scheme, he had more safeties' help than Jackson.

I reviewed at least 7 of the Pats' games.
When I looked at the defensive alignment, I noticed this:
Let's say the offense is in single back so that there 2 receiving threats on each side.
At least 90% of the time, you can count on more defenders to be on McCourty's side (or shading toward McCourty's side).
A DT putting a hand up in the passing lane is also of great help to the CB, let's not forget that.
Even when they played 2 deep safeties, from time to time, the second safety would shade over a little so that the main supporting safety (to McCourty) can be of more help to the rookie.

I did not like Wilson as much, because he took bad angles a bit much to my liking.

76Texan
02-11-2011, 06:04 PM
I have read where Jimmy Smith's workouts have been crazy good and he is racing up boards....but I don't think they take him there.



Jimmy Smith working out? Where? When?
Private or with a training club?

I haven't heard about any workout, but I will say this: His game tapes are the best I've seen among the draftees this year.

I understand that Steelb and most board members here love Peterson; some love Prince. But Smith had the best tapes (by more than a little bit and including games against Georgia - with AJ Green, the near consensus #1 WR; and Mizzou - with Gabbert, seemingly the choice QB in this draft.)

76Texan
02-11-2011, 06:15 PM
Weren't you the one who predicted the Duane Brown pick, though?

I don't think anybody really talked about Brown, except for me, briefly before the draft.
I rated him as the #8 OT overall, and that was where he got drafted.
I didn't rate him as a first rounder though.
I've already pushed him up because I think he fits well in the ZBS that we run.
In contrary to John Harris (Lance Z's partner or friend), I saw him as a better run blocker than a pass blocker.
(I think Harris said he hadn't watch Brown before he was drafted by the Texans though; and I don't think Lance Z did either.)

76Texan
02-11-2011, 06:20 PM
I had Iupati in the 1st and Jackson in the 2nd. Iupati was already gone when it was the Texans time to pick.

What happened to 3ToedPete?
Haven't seen him on the board for a long time.
I remember he and I agreed on Iupati in the first.

HoustonFrog
02-14-2011, 11:02 AM
Jimmy Smith working out? Where? When?
Private or with a training club?

I haven't heard about any workout, but I will say this: His game tapes are the best I've seen among the draftees this year.

I understand that Steelb and most board members here love Peterson; some love Prince. But Smith had the best tapes (by more than a little bit and including games against Georgia - with AJ Green, the near consensus #1 WR; and Mizzou - with Gabbert, seemingly the choice QB in this draft.)


http://twitter.com/#!/evansilva


evansilva Evan Silva
Pauline also says Patrick Peterson is "the player that most enamors the Broncos," and Jimmy Smith looks "sensational" in pre-draft workouts.

Lucky
02-14-2011, 06:27 PM
What happened to 3ToedPete?

Not sure. But, I believe you can summon him by typing his name 5 times in a draft thread.

steelbtexan
02-14-2011, 06:42 PM
TTP usally comes around after the combine.

rmartin65
02-14-2011, 06:49 PM
Not sure. But, I believe you can summon him by typing his name 5 times in a draft thread.

I thought that was an urban legend?

Wolf6151
02-14-2011, 10:15 PM
McShay has his 3.0 up. Big difference from the 2.0 one I posted earlier. This is from Insider.

http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft2011/insider/news/story?id=6101352

Has the Titans taking Prince Amukamara at #8, Cowboys taking JJ Watt, DE Wisconsin at #9 and Texans taking Jimmy Smith, CB Colorado at #11.


Jimmy Smith is a definite possibility depending on how he does at the Combine. I personally prefer Brandon Harris-CB over Smith but both are real possibilities.

76Texan
02-14-2011, 10:57 PM
Not sure. But, I believe you can summon him by typing his name 5 times in a draft thread.

:evil:

3TP
3TP
3TP
3TP
3TP

76Texan
02-14-2011, 11:08 PM
Frog, from what I understand, the NFL scouts are not allowed to attend any workout at Training Club or private of any form.
I'm sure walls have ears, but definitely the scouts wouldn't comment about things they "overheard".

I don't know how the unofficial scouting people and draft websites operate and whether they fan out to different Training Clubs to watch the prospects working out or purchase tapes from them, or whatever, but it's feasible.

Anyway, this is what I found:
http://www.denverpost.com/cu/ci_17305955