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Dutchrudder
03-21-2011, 02:14 PM
Well, then it was obviously a reach. :)

Awww, that makes me a sad panda :(

http://www.ratemydoodle.com/doodles2/07_09_09/sad-panda-9739258371792100418.jpg


It was a tough choice though, there are so many 3-4 round OT's in this draft it's hard to pick one.

kiwitexansfan
03-21-2011, 02:17 PM
Cardinals are locked and loaded with a pick.

Blake
03-21-2011, 02:49 PM
Am I on the clock?

I should have taken OT earlier.

You have 12 minutes to make a selection before one is made for you.

Shaft75
03-21-2011, 02:54 PM
You have 12 minutes to make a selection before one is made for you.

Just had to run in here and tell you guys to make the pick. Just had a customer show up, that's buying a home with cash. I'm sure you understand. Best OT sounds good to me. Or another interior DL.

The Pencil Neck
03-21-2011, 02:56 PM
If that's the case, then my votes are for:

1. Chris Hairston, OT, Clemson
2. Jurrell Casey, DT, USC
3. Newton, Derk, OT, Arkansas State

Blake
03-21-2011, 03:01 PM
Just had to run in here and tell you guys to make the pick. Just had a customer show up, that's buying a home with cash. I'm sure you understand. Best OT sounds good to me. Or another interior DL.

If that's the case, then my votes are for:

1. Chris Hairston, OT, Clemson
2. Jurrell Casey, DT, USC
3. Newton, Derk, OT, Arkansas State

Bengals select: Jurrell Casey, DT, USC

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSJyUhNIWkN5uBPhfy3YCeX1WwBAU8cN Yx1bn6eUra6uTSpcKBI-g

Brandon420tx
03-21-2011, 03:12 PM
SM is obviously trying to keep the OTs to himself

Dutchrudder
03-21-2011, 03:12 PM
With the 101st pick in the 2011 TexansTalk Ridiculously Long Mock Draft, Dutchrudder representing the Cleveland Browns selects....


Greg Little, WR from UNC!

http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/06G136G65911r/340x.jpg


I made a decision to go with a OT in the 3rd, cause I saw a lot of good WRs left on the board thinking one might be here, and that gamble paid off. Greg Little is a great talent with a high ceiling, but he's getting knocked down a couple rounds due to missing the 2010 season for NCAA bullshit. Yeah, he took money from an agent, but who hasn't? Anyways, that won't be a problem at the NFL level cause he'll get lots of cash for working hard and earning a big contract. This guy has all the tools necessary to make it in the NFL, he just needs a good coach and some discipline to keep him out of trouble. And what better place is there to stay out of trouble than Cleveland? :D

Greg's got some moves! Watch him dodge, duck, dive and catch the ball!
2009 Highlights (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRKB-KIQMg4)



For the record, I didn't want to go WR till the 5th or later, but I just like this guy too much so I couldn't pass him up. I thought he was taken earlier for some reason, but I couldn't find him in the selection thread. The Browns need some help at WR, but they spent two 2nd round picks on WRs last year, so meh...

TexansSeminole
03-21-2011, 03:26 PM
I like Greg Little. I thought about him for the Bills in the 4th.

Blake
03-21-2011, 03:26 PM
Via PM from Kiwi.

The Cardinals under new draft management elect to select a player whose leadership and success will cleanse all memories of the Anderson era.

Out of TCU, Andy Dalton.

http://sportskraze.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/andy-dalton.jpg

Strengths: Intelligent passer who can audible at the line. Durable leader for whom teammates will play. Strong over-the-top delivery, high ball carriage. Good zip on short and intermediate throws, can fit a ball between defenders in zone within 15 yards when footwork is solid. Throws to the opposite hash with accuracy. Nice touch on fade throws. Makes passes tall in the back of the end zone so only his receiver can reach it. Has enough mobility to escape pocket when flushed to throw the ball away, will gain a few yards with his feet when plays break down. Adequate throwing on the run, better running to his right.

Weaknesses: Spread offense product, must learn to read defenses from a drop. Usually catch-and-throw passer from shotgun, makes some poor decisions when primary receiver is covered. Spends little time under center on passing plays, will hand off occasionally from drop. Will throw off his back foot and with an inconsistent spiral when pressured. Does not drive the ball downfield, floats it down the seam or the sideline. Not an elusive runner, needs to keep his head up on the run and learn to slide.

Blake
03-21-2011, 03:27 PM
103.) Philadelphia Eagles - jgl35

104.) Houston Texans - Ndevine7

105.) Minnesota Vikings - JCTexan

106.) Detroit Lions - pbat488

107.) San Francisco 49ers - jay23728

Shaft75
03-21-2011, 03:35 PM
Bengals select: Jurrell Casey, DT, USC

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSJyUhNIWkN5uBPhfy3YCeX1WwBAU8cN Yx1bn6eUra6uTSpcKBI-g

I likes it. Thanks.

Blake
03-21-2011, 03:38 PM
SM is obviously trying to keep the OTs to himself

Haha you got me!

Nah, I had Casey rated higher, and the Bengals seem to like USC product. Rivers, Palmer, Maualuga, Rucker.

Shaft75
03-21-2011, 03:41 PM
Haha you got me!

Nah, I had Casey rated higher, and the Bengals seem to like USC product. Rivers, Palmer, Maualuga, Rucker.

Yeah, I'm trading my next pick for Pete Carroll and Mike Williams.

jgl35
03-21-2011, 05:23 PM
The Eagles select Jaiquawn Jarrett S Temple.
With Quintin Mikell a FA., The Eagles need depth at Safety. Jarrett could be used at both Safety positions.

Ndevine7
03-21-2011, 05:34 PM
With the 104th pick in the 2011 NFL draft, the Houston Texans select Jerrell Powe 6'2 335 NT Ole Miss

kiwitexansfan
03-21-2011, 05:46 PM
You keep plugging away at needs, its hard to fault your draft.

Ndevine7
03-21-2011, 05:48 PM
You keep plugging away at needs, its hard to fault your draft.

thanks

The Pencil Neck
03-21-2011, 06:14 PM
With the 104th pick in the 2011 NFL draft, the Houston Texans select Jerrell Powe 6'2 335 NT Ole Miss

Good pick.

JCTexan
03-21-2011, 06:15 PM
With the 105th pick the Minnesota Vikings select...

http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r114/knight7225/will-rackley-blocking-princeton-d6239c27f532a050_display_image.jpg

Will Rackley, OG, Lehigh

Vikings Need OL help after selecting Gabbert, & Rackley looks like the top linemen available.

kiwitexansfan
03-21-2011, 06:19 PM
With the 105th pick the Minnesota Vikings select...

http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r114/knight7225/will-rackley-blocking-princeton-d6239c27f532a050_display_image.jpg

Will Rackley, OG, Lehigh

Vikings Need OL help after selecting Gabbert, & Rackley looks like the top linemen available.

Yep, he was on my extremely short list for the Dolphins.

Dutchrudder
03-21-2011, 06:28 PM
With the 105th pick the Minnesota Vikings select...

http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r114/knight7225/will-rackley-blocking-princeton-d6239c27f532a050_display_image.jpg

Will Rackley, OG, Lehigh

Vikings Need OL help after selecting Gabbert, & Rackley looks like the top linemen available.

Ah, it was either him or Greg Little for the Browns, but since I got an OT earlier, I figure O-line can wait another round for a guard. Good pick :)

pbat488
03-21-2011, 08:02 PM
With the 106th pick, the Detroit Lions select....

http://media.scout.com/Media/Image/68/684277.jpg



K.J. Wright - LB - Mississippi State

The Lions draft a player they were looking to land in the 3rd if the draft had shaken out differently with their 4th round pick and are ecstatic about it. Wright isn't the fastest player but he has a good first step and great football instincts. He's able to play the Sam or Mike in the Lions 4-3 and should instantly compete against the Lions weak LB corps for a starting spot.

bah007
03-21-2011, 08:13 PM
Good pick. I like Wright a lot.

Blake
03-21-2011, 08:47 PM
Via proxy, the jay23728 49ers select:

Deunta Williams, S, North Carolina

Honoring Earl 34
03-21-2011, 09:21 PM
Well Fudge ... The Titans are picking picking Lawrence Guy DT ASU .

http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/slides/photos/000/563/317/104379278_display_image.jpg?1292279182

beerlover
03-21-2011, 09:28 PM
Cowboys select RG Michigan Stephen Shilling to complete right side OL overall.

http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/slides/photos/000/662/762/stephen-schilling-p1_display_image.jpg?1295905487

kiwitexansfan
03-21-2011, 09:38 PM
With all the fatties flying off the board the Dolphins feel that they need to act now to get a good one.

With their 4th round pick they select John Moffit, OG, Wisconsin.

http://media.scout.com/media/image/74/749789.jpg

Honoring Earl 34
03-21-2011, 09:54 PM
Cowboys select RG Michigan Stephen Shilling to complete right side OL overall.

http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/slides/photos/000/662/762/stephen-schilling-p1_display_image.jpg?1295905487

With all the fatties flying off the board the Dolphins feel that they need to act now to get a good one.

With their 4th round pick they select John Moffit, OG, Wisconsin.

http://media.scout.com/media/image/74/749789.jpg

I was hoping one of these guys would slip another round .... oh well

Texan4Ever
03-21-2011, 10:41 PM
With the 111th pick, the St. Louis Rams select...

Zach Hurd, OG, UCONN


http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/multimedia/photo_gallery/1008/cfb.preview.all-big.east.team/images/zach-hurd.jpg

With linemen flying off the board, the Rams pull the trigger on 6'7" 325-lbs OG from UCONN. Ran a 5.17 40-Yard Dash according to one source and basically, he provides the Rams with a tough linemen, who, with coaching should be able to contribute right away and become a key blocker for Steven Jackson.

kiwitexansfan
03-21-2011, 10:52 PM
I think our valuation of positional value is way different to the actual GMs.

There are a ton of skill position players still on the board while we are plumbing the depths of the OL position.

Texan4Ever
03-21-2011, 10:54 PM
I think our valuation of positional value is way different to the actual GMs.

There are a ton of skill position players still on the board while we are plumbing the depths of the OL position.


True, but I think most of our GMs want to cover needs before getting position players. Some teams, like the Rams, lack serious depth on the interior lines (both ways) and therefore, linemen come off the board in a pack.

The Pencil Neck
03-21-2011, 10:58 PM
I think our valuation of positional value is way different to the actual GMs.

There are a ton of skill position players still on the board while we are plumbing the depths of the OL position.

Yeah. My board is starting to look really weird with a bunch of RBs and CBs and Safeties at the top.

I was planning on picking up one or two of these guys in the next round.

kiwitexansfan
03-21-2011, 10:59 PM
True, but I think most of our GMs want to cover needs before getting position players. Some teams, like the Rams, lack serious depth on the interior lines (both ways) and therefore, linemen come off the board in a pack.

I agree and I think it makes sense, I just don't think GMs work that way and I wonder what the difference in mindsets stems from.

The Pencil Neck
03-21-2011, 11:00 PM
I agree and I think it makes sense, I just don't think GMs work that way and I wonder what the difference in mindsets stems from.

From all of us wanting to build from the inside out for the past 9 years.

JCTexan
03-21-2011, 11:02 PM
True, but I think most of our GMs want to cover needs before getting position players. Some teams, like the Rams, lack serious depth on the interior lines (both ways) and therefore, linemen come off the board in a pack.

^This & a lot of these O-line picks aren't really reaches. Rackley, Schilling & Moffitt are considered 3rd or 4th round picks, while Hurd is a 4th or 5th round prospect.

Honoring Earl 34
03-21-2011, 11:05 PM
^This & a lot of these O-line picks aren't really reaches. Rackley, Schilling & Moffitt are considered 3rd or 4th round picks, while Hurd is a 4th or 5th round prospect.

Yep ... but there's 2nd rd prospects still there .

JCTexan
03-21-2011, 11:11 PM
Yep ... but there's 2nd rd prospects still there .

Who is left you considered a 2nd round prospect? Luke Stocker & Daniel Thomas?

Texan4Ever
03-21-2011, 11:16 PM
I agree and I think it makes sense, I just don't think GMs work that way and I wonder what the difference in mindsets stems from.

It may be because successful teams have most likely gone BPA unless if there was an urgent need position. Teams that go through the draft based on needs end up drafting same position players multiple years or flat out stink for long periods of time before switching to a different philosophy.

From all of us wanting to build from the inside out for the past 9 years.

That to. I think fans have a different perspective because watching your quarterback run for his life or watch your center get slapped silly and than proceed to crushing your quarterback with all the power a 360-lbs NT can muster leaves a bigger impression and sense of urgency to a fan than a GM. (BTW, I was refering to the Jenkins-Meyers play)

Texan4Ever
03-21-2011, 11:21 PM
In case if anyone is wondering where in the heck I found out about Zach Hurd, here's a short clip: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BToECtrlho

The Pencil Neck
03-22-2011, 02:20 AM
Who is left you considered a 2nd round prospect? Luke Stocker & Daniel Thomas?

I don't know if I'd call them 2nd round prospects but I'd expect guys like these to be gone by now:

Daniel Thomas, RB, Kansas State
Casey Matthews, ILB, Oregon
Shane Vereen, RB, California
Rashad Carmichael, CB, Virginia Tech
James Carpenter, G, Alabama
Ahmad Black, SS, Florida

Are there black marks on these guys I haven't heard of?

**** I'm only posting this because I'm not picking again until the end of the next round. I don't expect any of these guys to fall to me and frankly, most of them don't meet team needs. I might be forced to pick them if they fall to me, though.

beerlover
03-22-2011, 02:29 AM
I don't know if I'd call them 2nd round prospects but I'd expect guys like these to be gone by now:

Daniel Thomas, RB, Kansas State
Casey Matthews, ILB, Oregon
Shane Vereen, RB, California
Rashad Carmichael, CB, Virginia Tech
James Carpenter, G, Alabama
Ahmad Black, SS, Florida

Are there black marks on these guys I haven't heard of?

**** I'm only posting this because I'm not picking again until the end of the next round. I don't expect any of these guys to fall to me and frankly, most of them don't meet team needs. I might be forced to pick them if they fall to me, though.

on the black list now :vincepalm:

JCTexan
03-22-2011, 02:39 AM
I don't know if I'd call them 2nd round prospects but I'd expect guys like these to be gone by now:

Daniel Thomas, RB, Kansas State
Casey Matthews, ILB, Oregon
Shane Vereen, RB, California
Rashad Carmichael, CB, Virginia Tech
James Carpenter, G, Alabama
Ahmad Black, SS, Florida

Are there black marks on these guys I haven't heard of?

**** I'm only posting this because I'm not picking again until the end of the next round. I don't expect any of these guys to fall to me and frankly, most of them don't meet team needs. I might be forced to pick them if they fall to me, though.

Carpenter went in the third round to Carolina.

Blake
03-22-2011, 08:59 AM
PICKS ARE UP TO DATE (http://www.texanstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=80277)

On the clock:

112.) Oakland Raiders - Kulluminati

113.) Jacksonville Jaguars - Super Mario

114.) San Francisco 49ers - jay23728

115.) Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Senor Stan

116.) New York Giants - BigBull17

117.) Kansas City Chiefs - HOU-TEX

kiwitexansfan
03-22-2011, 10:51 AM
When is Killuminatis team up?

I have a player he PMed me in the last round that isn't taken yet that would probably do the trick for him.

If his time isn't up though we can wait for him to come around just in case he has changed his plans.

Señor Stan
03-22-2011, 10:59 AM
Work has me pretty tied up today.

I PMed my picks to Super Mario. Feel free to make my pick once I am on the clock.

Blake
03-22-2011, 11:08 AM
When is Killuminatis team up?

I have a player he PMed me in the last round that isn't taken yet that would probably do the trick for him.

If his time isn't up though we can wait for him to come around just in case he has changed his plans.

He has about 4 hours. But I am fine if you want to plug in a player he wanted last round.

TexansSeminole
03-22-2011, 12:01 PM
When is Killuminatis team up?

I have a player he PMed me in the last round that isn't taken yet that would probably do the trick for him.

If his time isn't up though we can wait for him to come around just in case he has changed his plans.

It would seem that that would be his pick anyway.

steelbtexan
03-22-2011, 12:13 PM
Lets do it so we can keep this thing rolling. If he wants to change he can always let SM know and SM can change the pick at that time.

Ole Miss Texan
03-22-2011, 12:25 PM
I'd think a GM would hold true to his board.

kiwitexansfan
03-22-2011, 12:34 PM
Ok, as per his PM for the last round the Oakland Raiders select Kris O'Dowd, OL, USC.

http://usc.ocregister.com/files/2009/05/odowd0505.jpg

Whenever you can draft a guy with long flowing hair, a pathetic beard and horrible sunglasses you can't pass him up. (Commentary mine not Killuminati or the Raiders organisation).

Kulluminatii
03-22-2011, 12:42 PM
Ok, as per his PM for the last round the Oakland Raiders select Kris O'Dowd, OL, USC.


Whenever you can draft a guy with long flowing hair, a pathetic beard and horrible sunglasses you can't pass him up. (Commentary mine not Killuminati or the Raiders organisation).

:spit:

Was just about to make a post, although with a bit more menacing picture :D.

http://www.usctrojans.com/blog/0804odowdsignforkid.JPG

I'm a little skeptical with the guy due to durability concerns (he's dislocated his knee a few times), but when he's healthy he's pretty damn good...especially when compared to the players the Raiders currently have under center.

Blake
03-22-2011, 01:15 PM
The Jaguars select: Robert Sands, S, West Virgina

http://goldandbluezone.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/Robert-Sands.jpg

Jags need alot of secondary help, but in previous rounds the value wasnt there for me. Sands is a little tall which will slow his change of direction, but his height will help him close up passing lanes at the FS position. A 6-4, 217 hard hitter.

Jaguars draft so far:

Round 1: 16.) Ryan Kerrigan, DE, Perdue
Round 2: 49.) Martez Wilson, LB, Illinois
Round 3: 80.) Randall Cobb, WR, Kentucky
Round 4: 113.) Robert Sands, S, West Virgina

TexansSeminole
03-22-2011, 01:17 PM
IThe Jaguars select: Robert Sands, S, West Virgina

http://goldandbluezone.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/Robert-Sands.jpg

Jags need alot of secondary help, but in previous rounds the value wasnt there for me. Sands is a little tall which will slow his change of direction, but his height will help him close up passing lanes at the FS position. A 6-4, 217 hard hitter.

Jaguars draft so far:

Round 1: 16.) Ryan Kerrigan, DE, Perdue
Round 2: 49.) Martez Wilson, LB, Illinois
Round 3: 80.) Randall Cobb, WR, Kentucky
Round 4: 113.) Robert Sands, S, West Virgina

Good draft by the Jags so far. Nice job.


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Blake
03-22-2011, 01:27 PM
Via PM jay23728's 49ers select:

Terrell McClain, DT, South Florida

http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRfLVXPnMXBTGCwcdFmtZBSjRQBKHPX9 0FMrbaEh_EsLbjVRJ0o5g&t=1

Blake
03-22-2011, 01:28 PM
Via PM Bucs select:

Greg Romeus, DE, Pittsburgh

http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/slides/photos/000/350/695/827301_display_image.jpg?1282235285

Blake
03-22-2011, 01:29 PM
Picks updated. Next 5.


116.) New York Giants - BigBull17 (On the clock)

117.) Kansas City Chiefs - HOU-TEX

118.) Indianapolis Colts - ArlingtonTexan

119.) Philadelphia Eagles - jgl35

120.) Jacksonville Jaguars - Super Mario

kiwitexansfan
03-22-2011, 04:22 PM
Last time BigBull17 was in the thread he said this......

Hey guys, have been super busy with research papers and haven't studied anything for round three. Feel free to make my pick for me. Sorry about the trouble.

I wonder if he will be making a pick this round.... maybe we should be prepared just in case.

And he has been on since he was on the clock, and posted in another thread or two.....

Dutchrudder
03-22-2011, 04:25 PM
Last time BigBull17 was in the thread he said this......

Hey guys, have been super busy with research papers and haven't studied anything for round three. Feel free to make my pick for me. Sorry about the trouble.

I wonder if he will be making a pick this round.... maybe we should be prepared just in case.

And he has been on since he was on the clock, and posted in another thread or two.....

Giants draft so far:

Akeem Ayers, LB UCLA
Mikel Leshoure, RB, Illinois
James Brewer, OT, Indiana

Edit: I would say they should go CB or WR.

Blake
03-22-2011, 04:38 PM
I say we go with either...

Lee Ziemba, OT, Auburn

Ian Williams, DT, Notre Dame

Casey Matthews, ILB, Oregon

Mark Herzlich, OLB, Boston College

Blake
03-22-2011, 04:43 PM
Besides the Giants, has any team been abandoned to group selection?

Blake
03-22-2011, 04:44 PM
I say we go with either...

Lee Ziemba, OT, Auburn
Ian Williams, DT, Notre Dame
Casey Matthews, ILB, Oregon
Mark Herzlich, OLB, Boston College

Lance Kendricks, TE, Wisconsin and Daniel Thomas, RB, Kansas State are still on the board as well.

JCTexan
03-22-2011, 04:51 PM
Lance Kendricks, TE, Wisconsin and Daniel Thomas, RB, Kansas State are still on the board as well.

What about Luke Stocker, TE, Tennessee? He's projected as a 2nd round prospect on cbssports.

Blake
03-22-2011, 05:03 PM
What about Luke Stocker, TE, Tennessee? He's projected as a 2nd round prospect on cbssports.

Either is fine with me. Can we get someone else to weigh in with who the Giants should take? Either that or ill flip a coin. :P

Dutchrudder
03-22-2011, 05:09 PM
Either is fine with me. Can we get someone else to weigh in with who the Giants should take? Either that or ill flip a coin. :P

The Giants drafted 4 tight ends since 2002:

Shockey 1st round 2002

Visanthe Shiancoe 3rd of 2003

Kevin Boss 5th in 2007

Travis Beckum 3rd in 2009


3 out of 4 have been great so far. Why not another? Stocker works for me.

Blake
03-22-2011, 05:12 PM
Giants select Luke Stocker, TE, Tennessee

Blake
03-22-2011, 05:13 PM
Via Proxy, HOU-TEX's Chiefs select:

Niles Paul, WR, Nebraska - The Chiefs really struggled at the position towards the end of the season and even went to the extreme of signing Curtis to help out. Paul has the size and speed of a top NFL WR. He'll need to work on his hands in order to become a solid starter.

kiwitexansfan
03-22-2011, 05:13 PM
Giants select Luke Stocker, TE, Tennessee

I know Stecker is rated highly on draft boards, but can someone tell me why. The reviews of him I read weren't particularly glowing.

Blake
03-22-2011, 05:14 PM
On the clock.

118.) Indianapolis Colts - ArlingtonTexan

119.) Philadelphia Eagles - jgl35

120.) Jacksonville Jaguars - Super Mario

121.) Buffalo Bills - TexansSeminole

122.) Baltimore Ravens - rmartin65

rmartin65
03-22-2011, 05:15 PM
via proxy, hou-tex's chiefs select:

niles paul, wr, nebraska - the chiefs really struggled at the position towards the end of the season and even went to the extreme of signing curtis to help out. Paul has the size and speed of a top nfl wr. He'll need to work on his hands in order to become a solid starter.

Noooo!!!!!!

kiwitexansfan
03-22-2011, 05:19 PM
Noooo!!!!!!

Noooooo??

Because you wanted him or for the same reason as me?

I screamed NOOOOOOOOO because I sincerely think that Paul will achieve nothing in his NFL career. He looks and times as an NFL receiver but in the whole season of watching Nebraska never once did I go WOW over a Paul play or think now if we can only get the ball to Paul here.

I think he was the fourth best pass catching option on the Huskers last year after Cotton, Kinnie and Burkehead.

drs23
03-22-2011, 05:19 PM
Damn, my guys are taking a beating :foottap:

rmartin65
03-22-2011, 05:29 PM
Noooooo??

Because you wanted him or for the same reason as me?

I screamed NOOOOOOOOO because I sincerely think that Paul will achieve nothing in his NFL career. He looks and times as an NFL receiver but in the whole season of watching Nebraska never once did I go WOW over a Paul play or think now if we can only get the ball to Paul here.

I think he was the fourth best pass catching option on the Huskers last year after Cotton, Kinnie and Burkehead.

I wanted him. Sure he is a pretty big gamble, but the Ravens are in a decent spot and can afford a pick on a boom or bust guy here. He has the size and athleticism to be an upper tier (not top 10 or anything) receiver. That said, I trust your evals of Nebraska players, so I guess I lucked out.

kiwitexansfan
03-22-2011, 05:33 PM
I wanted him. Sure he is a pretty big gamble, but the Ravens are in a decent spot and can afford a pick on a boom or bust guy here. He has the size and athleticism to be an upper tier (not top 10 or anything) receiver. That said, I trust your evals of Nebraska players, so I guess I lucked out.

Your right, he has the physical attributes to be a player and the Ravens are in a good spot so I can understand the rationale.

As for my evaluation skills, I can tell if a rugby league player is for real or not in a flash and be pretty spot on, but football is still something I can't claim to have mastered. In saying that though, offensive skill positions are fairly easy imo.

ArlingtonTexan
03-22-2011, 06:25 PM
Indianapolis Colts select Ahamd Black S Florida.

Is a better football player than athlete with good on the field smarts and good producton. An attempt to replace Bob Sanders.

kiwitexansfan
03-22-2011, 06:49 PM
Indianapolis Colts select Ahamd Black S Florida.

Is a better football player than athlete with good on the field smarts and good producton. An attempt to replace Bob Sanders.

Interesting pick up.

Safety is one NFL position I worry about non-athletes.

They are at risk of getting exposed where other positions have less space to protect.

jgl35
03-22-2011, 07:41 PM
The Eagles select Mark Herzlich OLB Boston College.
A risk due to health, but was at one time a first round talent. The Eagles need an OLB and Mark could turn out to be a very good one.

steelbtexan
03-22-2011, 09:12 PM
The Eagles select Mark Herzlich OLB Boston College.
A risk due to health, but was at one time a first round talent. The Eagles need an OLB and Mark could turn out to be a very good one.

Love this pick

4th rd is about right.

In 2 yrs this pick could prove to be a steal.

Blake
03-23-2011, 09:19 AM
The Jaguars still need alot of help in their secondary and select:

Rashad Carmichael, CB, Virginia Tech

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTs4tR1uFMzD-KoXkwwJEfdwmuYKdSVK0bKHTL_Q_v5K7XnbgsMbg

Was a 2 year starter and senior for the Hokies. An outstanding athlete who is aggressive in both man and zone coverage.

Blake
03-23-2011, 09:21 AM
Lets see if we can finish up round 4 today.

121.) Buffalo Bills - TexansSeminole

122.) Baltimore Ravens - rmartin65

123.) Atlanta Falcons - mariowillshine15

124.) New England Patriots - bah007

125.) New York Jets - stingray

126.) Chicago Bears - drs23

127.) Pittsburgh Steelers - ole miss texan

128.) Green Bay Packers -thunderkyss

steelbtexan
03-23-2011, 10:40 AM
Remember MWS missed his pick last rd.

Isn't this rd 4?

Blake
03-23-2011, 10:51 AM
Remember MWS missed his pick last rd.

Isn't this rd 4?

My mistake. Round 4.

TexansSeminole
03-23-2011, 11:34 AM
The Buffalo Bills select...

ILB Casey Matthews.

http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRF_0bA02wFwUV_AomzJpw4zvz5meJiK lnDPFklkbWI4skAroHf&t=1

Inside linebacker depth.

kiwitexansfan
03-23-2011, 11:40 AM
The Buffalo Bills select...

ILB Casey Matthews.

http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRF_0bA02wFwUV_AomzJpw4zvz5meJiK lnDPFklkbWI4skAroHf&t=1

Inside linebacker depth.

This will be a fascinating career to see develop.

To see how much talent is there and how much hype is there.

I think this is around the right spot... maybe 5th round.

rmartin65
03-23-2011, 11:58 AM
The Ravens select Clemson RB Jamie Harper

http://c.photoshelter.com/img-get/I0000BDAJsf2ETt8/s

Blake
03-23-2011, 12:27 PM
Atlanta Falcons: Biggest Needs: Offensive Tackle, Defensive End, Cornerback

27.) Torrey Smith, WR, Maryland
59.) Atlanta Falcons - Dontay Moch, LB, Nevada
91.) Atlanta Falcons - DeMarcus Van Dyke, CB, Miami (FL)

Lets make the pick.

The Pencil Neck
03-23-2011, 12:36 PM
Atlanta Falcons: Biggest Needs: Offensive Tackle, Defensive End, Cornerback

27.) Torrey Smith, WR, Maryland
59.) Atlanta Falcons - Dontay Moch, LB, Nevada
91.) Atlanta Falcons - DeMarcus Van Dyke, CB, Miami (FL)

Lets make the pick.

Would they take CB with consecutive picks?

Highest guys on my board at those positions right now are:

Kendric Burney, CB, North Carolina
Chris Hairston, OT, Clemson (Has this guy already been picked?)
Shareece Wright, CB, USC
Derek Newton, OT, Arkansas State

The highest rated DE's I've got left are
1. Pernell McPhee, DE Mississippi State
2. Bruce Miller, DE/OLB, Central Florida
3. Thomas Keiser, DE/OLB, Stanford

But those guys aren't as highly ranked as the CBs and OTs on my board.

The Pencil Neck
03-23-2011, 12:36 PM
The Jaguars still need alot of help in their secondary and select:

Rashad Carmichael, CB, Virginia Tech

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTs4tR1uFMzD-KoXkwwJEfdwmuYKdSVK0bKHTL_Q_v5K7XnbgsMbg

Was a 2 year starter and senior for the Hokies. An outstanding athlete who is aggressive in both man and zone coverage.

I think that's a good spot to get him. I've got him rated a bit earlier than this.

Blake
03-23-2011, 12:42 PM
Would they take CB with consecutive picks?

Highest guys on my board at those positions right now are:

Kendric Burney, CB, North Carolina
Chris Hairston, OT, Clemson (Has this guy already been picked?)
Shareece Wright, CB, USC
Derek Newton, OT, Arkansas State

The highest rated DE's I've got left are
1. Pernell McPhee, DE Mississippi State
2. Bruce Miller, DE/OLB, Central Florida
3. Thomas Keiser, DE/OLB, Stanford

But those guys aren't as highly ranked as the CBs and OTs on my board.

All seem to be open. Lets go with McPhee.

I think that's a good spot to get him. I've got him rated a bit earlier than this.

Yeah those Hokies always seem to have a corner go in the top 3 rounds.

Blake
03-23-2011, 12:43 PM
On the clock.

124.) New England Patriots - bah007

125.) New York Jets - stingray

126.) Chicago Bears - drs23

127.) Pittsburgh Steelers - ole miss texan

128.) Green Bay Packers -thunderkyss

bah007
03-23-2011, 02:46 PM
The New England Patriots select:

Jake Kirkpatrick - C, TCU

http://profile.ak.fbcdn.net/hprofile-ak-snc4/50313_110150808998023_4648_n.jpg

stingray
03-23-2011, 04:14 PM
With the Jets losing either Santonio Holmes or Braylon Edwards, they are in need of a WR. So the Jets select WR from LSU Terrence Toliver He is huge at 6-4 and 212 lbs. His size is a good fit for Sanchez's tendency to overthrow.

http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/slides/photos/000/306/093/terrence-toliver_display_image.jpg?1279584104

drs23
03-23-2011, 04:43 PM
With their forth round pick the Chicago Bears choose Chris Hairston, OT - Clemson.

Has football smarts and is a leader. Needs a good SC program to redistribute weight and learn to bend his knees but should be productive at the the next level.

Ole Miss Texan
03-23-2011, 05:03 PM
The Pittsburgh Steelers would like to welcome their newest rookie, Lee Ziemba, Offensive Lineman from Auburn. Lee will likely play right tackle while Boling moves inside to right guard. Pouncey - Boling - Ziemba will become a dominant run blocking wall for years to come.

1. Aaron Williams - CB - Texas
2. Jarvis Jenkins - DL - Clemson
3. Clint Boling - OT - Georgia
4. Lee Ziemba - OT - Auburn

http://www2.oanow.com/mgmedia/image/294/0/178222/ziemba-uga/

kiwitexansfan
03-23-2011, 06:20 PM
Hey Mario, just a reminder I have the Cardinals now.

Blake
03-23-2011, 06:32 PM
Hey Mario, just a reminder I have the Cardinals now.

Gotcha.

Can we get the Packs pick and close round 4? I think if we complete 5 rounds I will be happy. But we have a month so we should be able to do all 7.

Then we can talk about doing a quick weekend mock right before the draft.

bah007
03-23-2011, 06:42 PM
Gotcha.

Can we get the Packs pick and close round 4? I think if we complete 5 rounds I will be happy. But we have a month so we should be able to do all 7.

Then we can talk about doing a quick weekend mock right before the draft.

Well we knocked out four rounds in about three weeks, right?

I think we can get the last three rounds in time.

I hope we go all 7. As the draft boards get smaller and smaller, I like seeing who gets taken in these late rounds.

drs23
03-23-2011, 06:46 PM
Well we knocked out four rounds in about three weeks, right?

I think we can get the last three rounds in time.

I hope we go all 7. As the draft boards get smaller and smaller, I like seeing who gets taken in these late rounds.

Likewise. I would like to go the whole enchalada as well.

beerlover
03-23-2011, 07:46 PM
just realize supplemental picks are not included, so a lot of really good top to bottom drafts might be a little thinner than expected in real thing. Plus it could affect how a team might attack their board with sandwich picks, hence more likely to address need for instance & pull trigger sooner if they have to address position, for example OLB.....

steelbtexan
03-23-2011, 08:03 PM
Likewise. I would like to go the whole enchalada as well.

This

The Panthers are ready to make their pick.

steelbtexan
03-23-2011, 08:06 PM
just realize supplemental picks are not included, so a lot of really good top to bottom drafts might be a little thinner than expected in real thing. Plus it could affect how a team might attack their board with sandwich picks, hence more likely to address need for instance & pull trigger sooner if they have to address position, for example OLB.....

True

But this is fun.

I find it very interesting the way other people value other players in the draft.

Blake
03-23-2011, 08:27 PM
We can't assume supp picks without a CBA. So I made the choice to exclude and simplify.

beerlover
03-23-2011, 08:52 PM
We can't assume supp picks without a CBA. So I made the choice to exclude and simplify.

Just observation it will be different w/without CBA. I read somewhere, NFL is going to award teams their compenstory picks in next week or so?

rmartin65
03-23-2011, 08:55 PM
Just observation it will be different w/without CBA. I read somewhere, NFL is going to award teams their compenstory picks in next week or so?

Supposedly very soon - http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/chicago-bears-huddle/2011/03/2011-compensatory-draft-picks-to-be-announced-this-week.html

Or not, as the comp pick guru now writes- http://adamjt13.blogspot.com/2011/03/note-about-2011-comp-picks.html

beerlover
03-23-2011, 09:05 PM
Supposedly very soon - http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/chicago-bears-huddle/2011/03/2011-compensatory-draft-picks-to-be-announced-this-week.html

Or not, as the comp pick guru now writes- http://adamjt13.blogspot.com/2011/03/note-about-2011-comp-picks.html

Will happen just announced later than usual -

According to ESPN.com's Mike Reiss, the comp picks will not be announced during the Annual Meeting, as they usually are. They will be announced at a later date.

thunderkyss
03-23-2011, 11:31 PM
With the 128th pick in the 2011 draft, the World Champion Greenbay Packers select


http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/sports_college_ucf/files/2010/09/Kansas-State-running-back-Daniel-Thomas-Credit-Bo-Rader-The-Wichita-Eagle.jpg


Daniel Thomas, RB Kansas State.

JCTexan
03-23-2011, 11:37 PM
With the 128th pick in the 2011 draft, the World Champion Greenbay Packers select


http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/sports_college_ucf/files/2010/09/Kansas-State-running-back-Daniel-Thomas-Credit-Bo-Rader-The-Wichita-Eagle.jpg


Daniel Thomas, RB Kansas State.

I'm liking Green Bay's running game a lot more with Kendall Hunter & Daniel Thomas added to it.

The Pencil Neck
03-23-2011, 11:59 PM
With the 128th pick in the 2011 draft, the World Champion Greenbay Packers select


http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/sports_college_ucf/files/2010/09/Kansas-State-running-back-Daniel-Thomas-Credit-Bo-Rader-The-Wichita-Eagle.jpg


Daniel Thomas, RB Kansas State.

You should be arrested. That's a steal right there.

steelbtexan
03-24-2011, 12:00 AM
With the 128th pick in the 2011 draft, the World Champion Greenbay Packers select


http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/sports_college_ucf/files/2010/09/Kansas-State-running-back-Daniel-Thomas-Credit-Bo-Rader-The-Wichita-Eagle.jpg


Daniel Thomas, RB Kansas State.

Good pick Thomas was the #2 rated guy on my board.


With the 129th pick in the 2011 mock draft the Carolina Panthers select Shareece Wright CB USC.

I really cant believe Wright was still available in the 5th rd. Much like Thomas taken 1 pick before him. I expected Wright to be a mid 3rd rd pick.

The Panthers are very happy with the way their draft is shaping up. Good players kept falling to them at positions of need.

Rd.1 Nick Fairley
Rd.3 James Carpenter
Rd.4 Titus Youn
Rd.5 Shareece Wright

Texan4Ever
03-24-2011, 12:01 AM
Now that the Packers have their pick in, its time for round five. Carolina Panthers are going to be a gorup pick so any recommendations?

So far, they have Nick Fairley, James Carpenter, and Titus Young as far as I know. I'm thinking QB, DE, or another WR.

steelbtexan
03-24-2011, 12:03 AM
Now that the Packers have their pick in, its time for round five. Carolina Panthers are going to be a gorup pick so any recommendations?

So far, they have Nick Fairley, James Carpenter, and Titus Young as far as I know. I'm thinking QB, DE, or another WR.

I took over Carolina for JB after the 1st rd.

The Pencil Neck
03-24-2011, 12:03 AM
Now that the Packers have their pick in, its time for round five. Carolina Panthers are going to be a gorup pick so any recommendations?

So far, they have Nick Fairley, James Carpenter, and Titus Young as far as I know. I'm thinking QB, DE, or another WR.

Steel Blue picked for them.

Shareece Wright, CB, USC.

kiwitexansfan
03-24-2011, 08:06 AM
Will be interesting to see how Daniel Thomas' career shapes up.

With his size and running style I can see him getting jack'd up a lot.

Blake
03-24-2011, 08:51 AM
Picks are updated.

On the clock:

130.) Buffalo Bills - TexansSeminole

131.) Cincinnati Bengals - Shaft75

132.) Kansas City Chiefs - HOU-TEX

133.) Arizona Cardinals - Wolf6151

134.) Cleveland Browns - Dutchrudder

135.) Houston Texans - Ndevine7

Shaft75
03-24-2011, 12:15 PM
Busy day guys. Make my pick for me!!!

bah007
03-24-2011, 12:58 PM
The Bengals have done a great job addressing needs so far. Taking a QB (Mallett), WR (Green), and two DTs (Ballard and Casey).

They could use a SS to groom to eventually become the starter. And they could use upgrades pretty much all along the OL.

I think the pick should be among Jeron Johnson (Boise St), Da'Norris Searcy (North Carolina), or Joe Lefeged (Rutgers). All SS prospects who would be excellent value at this point.

If they want to go OL I would suggest Nick Claytor (OT - Georgia Tech), Andrew Jackson (OG - Fresno St), Tim Barnes (C - Missouri), or Ryan Bartholomew (C - Syracuse).

EDIT: Oops, looks like I jumped the gun. The Bills still need to make a selection first.

Blake
03-24-2011, 01:15 PM
The Bengals have done a great job addressing needs so far. Taking a QB (Mallett), WR (Green), and two DTs (Ballard and Casey).

They could use a SS to groom to eventually become the starter. And they could use upgrades pretty much all along the OL.

I think the pick should be among Jeron Johnson (Boise St), Da'Norris Searcy (North Carolina), or Joe Lefeged (Rutgers). All SS prospects who would be excellent value at this point.

If they want to go OL I would suggest Nick Claytor (OT - Georgia Tech), Andrew Jackson (OG - Fresno St), Tim Barnes (C - Missouri), or Ryan Bartholomew (C - Syracuse).

EDIT: Oops, looks like I jumped the gun. The Bills still need to make a selection first.

I like Johnson or Lefeged for them. Or even a RB.

The Pencil Neck
03-24-2011, 01:41 PM
Of those guys, Lefeged is the highest rated on my board in most of the ways I sort it. Da'Norris Searcy is second

TexansSeminole
03-24-2011, 01:59 PM
The Buffalo Bills select...

TE Lance Kendricks


http://www.speed4athletes.com/images/386_jordan_s_hit.jpg


The Bills are happy to have a TE they thought would a round earlier.

TexansSeminole
03-24-2011, 02:11 PM
Kendricks is available right?

If not I am taking Jeron Johnson. No way he should be on the board either.

jgl35
03-24-2011, 02:18 PM
Looks like you are good with him. I didn't see him listed as taken.

The Pencil Neck
03-24-2011, 02:37 PM
Kendricks is available right?

If not I am taking Jeron Johnson. No way he should be on the board either.

Kendric Burney? Or Lance Kendricks?

bah007
03-24-2011, 03:00 PM
Kendricks is available right?

If not I am taking Jeron Johnson. No way he should be on the board either.

Yes, Kendricks is still available. No way he still should be but somehow he is.

Honoring Earl 34
03-24-2011, 03:08 PM
Yes, Kendricks is still available. No way he still should be but somehow he is.

I was going to pluck him my last pick fot the Titans but they have three TEs and so I picked a guy 20 slots behind him as apposed to a G/C who was 50 .

The Pencil Neck
03-24-2011, 03:14 PM
Yes, Kendricks is still available. No way he still should be but somehow he is.

This board is TE shy.

I didn't even include them in my big board except the ones that Walter Football happened to include in his mock.

Blake
03-24-2011, 03:17 PM
131.) Cincinnati Bengals - Joe Lefeged, S, Rutgers

HOU-TEX is up.

HOU-TEX
03-24-2011, 03:48 PM
The Kansas City Chiefs select:

Shane Vereen, RB, Cal

http://media.scout.com/Media/Image/62/627661.jpg

With Thomas Jones coming back for likely a final year, Vereen will have the chance to study one of the better RB's of the league while being an instant contributor on special teams. He and Charles will eventually be top RB's for the Chiefs.

kiwitexansfan
03-24-2011, 05:33 PM
The Kansas City Chiefs select:

Shane Vereen, RB, Cal

http://media.scout.com/Media/Image/62/627661.jpg

With Thomas Jones coming back for likely a final year, Vereen will have the chance to study one of the better RB's of the league while being an instant contributor on special teams. He and Charles will eventually be top RB's for the Chiefs.

NOOOOOOOO!

I was really hoping he would continue his unlikely fall to the Dolphins....

kiwitexansfan
03-24-2011, 05:37 PM
Arizona Cardinals were leaning towards TE but with Kendricks gone they instead take a hot prospect with huge upside to help the secondary.

Buster Skrine, UT-Chattanooga.

http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/slides/photos/000/789/144/YFCAYIJIFHBFAWG.20110302144729_display_image.jpg?1 300137480

Dutchrudder
03-24-2011, 06:00 PM
With the 134th pick in the 2011 TexansTalk Ridiculously Long Mock Draft, Dutchrudder representing the Cleveland Browns selects....


Kendrick Burney, CB from UNC

http://seahawknationblog.com/files/2011/01/49089203.jpg


The Browns need some more secondary help to backup Joe Haden, their first round pick last year. They also spent their second round pick on safety TJ Ward last year and signed Sheldon Brown, so they have some young talent developing and a veteran to guide them. Burney will have some time to develop behind those guys as a CB or possibly a safety.

So far the Browns have done pretty well addressing needs:
1. Robert Quinn, DE
2. Cory Liguet, DT
3. Marcus Gilbert OT
4. Greg Little, WR
5. Kendrick Burney, CB

I'm liking it :D

kiwitexansfan
03-24-2011, 06:13 PM
I avoided Burney because of his athletic limitations.

A move to safety may help that or just expose him more.

rmartin65
03-24-2011, 06:16 PM
I avoided Burney because of his athletic limitations.

A move to safety may help that or just expose him more.

Too small for safety. I really liked him coming into the season, but his prestige wore off, then the draft season killed him. Small and slow is a bad combo for a DB.

Dutchrudder
03-24-2011, 06:34 PM
I avoided Burney because of his athletic limitations.

A move to safety may help that or just expose him more.

Too small for safety. I really liked him coming into the season, but his prestige wore off, then the draft season killed him. Small and slow is a bad combo for a DB.

http://www.funny-cats.us/wp-content/plugins/wp-o-matic/cache/68770_funny-pictures-you-are-jealous-of-tails.jpg

:D

rmartin65
03-24-2011, 06:53 PM
http://www.funny-cats.us/wp-content/plugins/wp-o-matic/cache/68770_funny-pictures-you-are-jealous-of-tails.jpg

:D

Not really knocking the pick- you have had a fantastic draft thus far, and Burney has football skills. I just avoided him because he does not measure up well, and CB is one of the positions I like to know the guy has top notch athleticism.

kiwitexansfan
03-24-2011, 07:16 PM
Are we ready for a Texans pick?

Devine has been ticking the boxes so far for us, whats next?

Ndevine7
03-24-2011, 07:31 PM
With the 135 pick in the 2011 NFL Draft the Houston Texans select

Shiloh Keo 5'11 219 SS/PR Idaho

kiwitexansfan
03-24-2011, 07:35 PM
With the 135 pick in the 2011 NFL Draft the Houston Texans select

Shiloh Keo 5'11 219 SS/PR Idaho

Tad early maybe.

Hitting a positional need so can't complain too much.

Might have been leaning towards a WR sometime about now that could stretch the field.

Ndevine7
03-24-2011, 07:39 PM
Tad early maybe.

Hitting a positional need so can't complain too much.

Might have been leaning towards a WR sometime about now that could stretch the field.

I wasnt a huge fan of any of the available WR. Looked at Vincent Brown, Dwayne Harris and Stephen Burton but just wasnt impressed with any of them. Keo had a good combine despite his poor 40 he looked really good in the drills that i saw him it

kiwitexansfan
03-24-2011, 08:04 PM
I wasnt a huge fan of any of the available WR. Looked at Vincent Brown, Dwayne Harris and Stephen Burton but just wasnt impressed with any of them. Keo had a good combine despite his poor 40 he looked really good in the drills that i saw him it

Vincent Brown is a player that I think can be a 3rd down move the chains guy. Awesome hands, good routes but he lacks the athleticism to be an elite WR.

I would like to see a player who can get deep and make a play. Who knows, maybe they can find a way to get Holliday going and take advantage of his speed.

Ndevine7
03-24-2011, 08:17 PM
Vincent Brown is a player that I think can be a 3rd down move the chains guy. Awesome hands, good routes but he lacks the athleticism to be an elite WR.

I would like to see a player who can get deep and make a play. Who knows, maybe they can find a way to get Holliday going and take advantage of his speed.

I thought our depth at WR was better then S. Im not too familiar with Brown but after doing some research on him i saw a lot of negatives. I dont know if you remember Wayne Cherbet from the Jets bunch of years ago. Are you suggesting that he could be be a player like him always making the big catch but never had the athletic ability to be a great WR.

kiwitexansfan
03-24-2011, 08:49 PM
I thought our depth at WR was better then S. Im not too familiar with Brown but after doing some research on him i saw a lot of negatives. I dont know if you remember Wayne Cherbet from the Jets bunch of years ago. Are you suggesting that he could be be a player like him always making the big catch but never had the athletic ability to be a great WR.

I think so, Brown got some HUGE wraps for doing things right and his consistency during Senior Bowl week.

FWIW, I loved Wayne Chrebet.

I see Brown as a better David Anderson.

drs23
03-24-2011, 09:43 PM
I thought. our depth at WR was better then S Im not too familiar with Brown but after doing some research on him i saw a lot of negatives. I dont know if you remember Wayne Cherbet from the Jets bunch of years ago. Are you suggesting that he could be be a player like him always making the big catch but never had the athletic ability to be a great WR.

Does everyone discount Dorin Dickerson, the 'steal', of last year's draft? Granted, he didn't see the field until the very end of the year and then didn't look spectacular but I thought he did during the PS. One handed catch in clutch time? Not throwing rocks, just axin'? :D

kiwitexansfan
03-24-2011, 10:01 PM
Does everyone discount Dorin Dickerson, the 'steal', of last year's draft? Granted, he didn't see the field until the very end of the year and then didn't look spectacular but I thought he did during the PS. One handed catch in clutch time? Not throwing rocks, just axin'? :D

Who? The tight end trying to become a receiver?

Yes, discounted until he shows he can be anything more than an impressive physical specimen.

JCTexan
03-24-2011, 10:20 PM
With the 136th pick the Minnesota Vikings select...

http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r114/knight7225/121351_weblg.jpg

Ian Williams, DT, Notre Dame

Two-gap nose tackle has the anchor and lower-body strength to hold up against double-teams. Aware of the play in the backfield, works his way off his block to chase plays when run to the other side of the line. Flashes nimble feet through trash inside. Can disengage from linemen with strong hands, occasionally spinning to get free. With Pat Williams leaving Minnesota needs beef on their defensive front and Ian Williams is the top rated DT on the board.

The Pencil Neck
03-24-2011, 10:24 PM
Does everyone discount Dorin Dickerson, the 'steal', of last year's draft? Granted, he didn't see the field until the very end of the year and then didn't look spectacular but I thought he did during the PS. One handed catch in clutch time? Not throwing rocks, just axin'? :D

If Dickerson can develop and turn into a really good WR, that's just gravy. He's got all the potential to be pretty amazing.

But he's not there, yet.

beerlover
03-24-2011, 11:23 PM
If Dickerson can develop and turn into a really good WR, that's just gravy. He's got all the potential to be pretty amazing.

But he's not there, yet.

He will probably never get there here either because he is best suited in the slot. With OD back along with productive back-up Joel Dreesen & Casey derserving more touches how's he suppose to improve without reps? I think the developing a route tree was sugar coating as insurance for OD while Joel was still at that point untested. As athlete alone, his value is good for at least 6th round grade compensation (trade consideration) so Texans covered their bases & net decent return.

TexansSeminole
03-25-2011, 12:36 AM
With the 136th pick the Minnesota Vikings select...
Ian Williams, DT, Notre Dame

Two-gap nose tackle has the anchor and lower-body strength to hold up against double-teams. Aware of the play in the backfield, works his way off his block to chase plays when run to the other side of the line. Flashes nimble feet through trash inside. Can disengage from linemen with strong hands, occasionally spinning to get free. With Pat Williams leaving Minnesota needs beef on their defensive front and Ian Williams is the top rated DT on the board.


Nice pick. I kept going back to him on my draft board but I have already drafted three defensive lineman for the Bills.

Blake
03-25-2011, 08:26 AM
On the clock:

You can PM me your picks if you wont be around often.

137.) Kansas City Chiefs - HOU-TEX

138.) San Francisco 49ers - jay23728

139.) Tennessee Titans - Honoring Earl 34

140.) Dallas Cowboys - beerlover

141.) Washington Redskins - Trap_Star

HOU-TEX
03-25-2011, 10:35 AM
With their 2nd pick in the 5th round, the Kansas City Chiefs select:

Ricky Stanzi, QB, Iowa

http://itiswhatitis.weei.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/Ricky-Stanzi.jpg

The Chiefs know Croyle and Palko aren't their future at the position if/when Cassel begins to crumble. They select Stanzi to groom for the future.

Chiefs draft so far. I was really wanting to grab an 3-4 OLB, but it never panned out.

1. Nate Solder, OT
2. Danny Watkins, C/G
3. Kendrick Ellis, NT/DT
4. Niles Paul, WR
5a. Shane Vereen, RB
5b. Ricky Stanzi, QB

Blake
03-25-2011, 11:07 AM
Ricky Stanzi, QB, Iowa

Gah! Damn you and your wicked ways.

The Pencil Neck
03-25-2011, 11:24 AM
Damn you, Hou-Tex! I wanted him to fall all the way down to me.

But apparently, SM had his eyes on my QB of the future, too.

Pfah.

kiwitexansfan
03-25-2011, 12:17 PM
I'm guessing that this is far too late for Stanzi come draft day.

The Pencil Neck
03-25-2011, 12:39 PM
I'm guessing that this is far too late for Stanzi come draft day.

Yeah, this board is anti-QB and anti-RB. I think, as drafters even when drafting for other teams, we have a tendency to focus more on whatever weaknesses we perceive in the Texans and slant our draft that way. So more Safeties and Corners and DL have been picked than I'd expect in the real draft so far. And that's come at the expense of the QB, RB, and probably TE positions.

It's still fun.

kiwitexansfan
03-25-2011, 12:51 PM
The TE class is pretty awful though.

I think that Rudolph and Williams are the only players I expect to make much of an impact.

bah007
03-25-2011, 12:59 PM
The TE class is pretty awful though.

I think that Rudolph and Williams are the only players I expect to make much of an impact.

I really like Pianalto from North Carolina. He'll go later than those other two but he will be a good pro.

He is a less talented version of Gronkowski from last year.

He isn't exactly great at anything, but he can do everything.

kiwitexansfan
03-25-2011, 01:02 PM
I really like Pianalto from North Carolina. He'll go later than those other two but he will be a good pro.

He is a less talented version of Gronkowski from last year.

He isn't exactly great at anything, but he can do everything.

I respect your insight so I'll watch for him, but I have never heard of the guy.

bah007
03-25-2011, 01:07 PM
I respect your insight so I'll watch for him, but I have never heard of the guy.

Not too many have. He isn't one of those guys that shines, he is just really solid. Kinda like Dreesen I guess. A guy that just takes care of business.

I really have to agree with you though. This TE class is underwhelming at best.

HOU-TEX
03-25-2011, 02:22 PM
Yeah, this board is anti-QB and anti-RB. I think, as drafters even when drafting for other teams, we have a tendency to focus more on whatever weaknesses we perceive in the Texans and slant our draft that way. So more Safeties and Corners and DL have been picked than I'd expect in the real draft so far. And that's come at the expense of the QB, RB, and probably TE positions.

It's still fun.

That's for sure. I can see the 1st round being unfriendly to those two positions, but I reckon they'll be flying off the board in rounds 2-3, especially RBs.

Texan4Ever
03-25-2011, 03:00 PM
Yeah, this board is anti-QB and anti-RB. I think, as drafters even when drafting for other teams, we have a tendency to focus more on whatever weaknesses we perceive in the Texans and slant our draft that way. So more Safeties and Corners and DL have been picked than I'd expect in the real draft so far. And that's come at the expense of the QB, RB, and probably TE positions.

It's still fun.


We also tend to have a run on a position, especially offensive and defensive linemen.

beerlover
03-25-2011, 03:12 PM
We also tend to have a run on a position, especially offensive and defensive linemen.

message sent to Texans front office :fingergun:

Brandon420tx
03-25-2011, 04:14 PM
We should be able to send at least 2 representatives to be in the war room

Dutchrudder
03-25-2011, 04:25 PM
We should be able to send at least 2 representatives to be in the war room

I don't think we have 2 'yes-men' on the board...

Honoring Earl 34
03-25-2011, 04:31 PM
I don't think we have 2 'yes-men' on the board...

Ok ... whatever you say . :lion:

The Pencil Neck
03-25-2011, 04:56 PM
I don't think we have 2 'yes-men' on the board...

Yes, we do. Oh, wait, I mean... no, we don't. Oh, wait, dammit. I mean, you're right.

Blake
03-25-2011, 05:04 PM
TIME IS UP

138.) San Francisco 49ers - jay23728

45.) San Francisco 49ers - Leonard Hankerson, WR, Miami (FL)
76.) San Francisco 49ers - Jason Pinkston, OL, Pittsburgh
107.) San Francisco 49ers - Deunta Williams, S, North Carolina
114.) San Francisco 49ers - Terrell McClain, DT, South Florida

Biggest Needs: Quarterback, Defensive Tackle, Outside Linebacker
Upgrade or Replacement Desired: Center, Wide Receiver, Cornerback

49ers Select: Bruce Miller, DE/OLB, Central Florida

Blake
03-25-2011, 05:21 PM
Anyone have an issue with Miller, or do yall want someone else?

Dutchrudder
03-25-2011, 05:21 PM
Yes, we do. Oh, wait, I mean... no, we don't. Oh, wait, dammit. I mean, you're right.

Ok ... whatever you say . :lion:

I should have specified, I meant the mock draft section. Sure the general TTalk area has some Kubiak fanboys, but I haven't really seen anyone around here praising their drafts, especially defensive picks.

Honoring Earl 34
03-25-2011, 05:26 PM
I should have specified, I meant the mock draft section. Sure the general TTalk area has some Kubiak fanboys, but I haven't really seen anyone around here praising their drafts, especially defensive picks.

Dude ... OK ... whatever you say makes me a yes man . :spin:

Honoring Earl 34
03-25-2011, 05:26 PM
Anyone have an issue with Miller, or do yall want someone else?

I like Budwieser better .

Pick him ... I'm next .

Blake
03-25-2011, 05:30 PM
I like Budwieser better .

Pick him ... I'm next .

Okie dokie. Youre up.

Honoring Earl 34
03-25-2011, 05:41 PM
The Titans of Nashburg pick Tim Barnes C Mizzou .

http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/multimedia/photo_gallery/1008/cfb.preview.all-big.12.team/images/tim-barnes.jpg

1. Julio Jones ... WR ... Alabama
2. Jake Locker ... QB ... Wash
3. Quan Sturdivant ... LB ... NC
4. Lawrence Guy ... DT ... ASU
5.Tim Barnes ... C ... Mizzou

beerlover
03-25-2011, 06:04 PM
http://www.fanaticalfootballfiend.com/uploads/5/6/9/8/5698103/833033924.jpg?629
Mario "Thumper" Harvey, LB, Marshall, 5'11 1/2" 257


Mario blew up his pro-day running a 4.43 forty (fastest LB @ combine was a 4.49). Harvey ran like a receiver by some accounts while also benching 225 27 times. Cowboys Rob BL Ryan graded Mario #6 ILB prospect & feels can be developed into an everydown 3-4 LB with enough edge speed to flip outside in assorted blitz packages. Excellent closing speed & ability to run ball carrier down, very productive 2010 stats: 142 tackles, 16.5 TFL, 7.5 sacks, 7 PBU's (420 tackles for career). Will excel in special teams as well.

kiwitexansfan
03-25-2011, 06:40 PM
http://www.fanaticalfootballfiend.com/uploads/5/6/9/8/5698103/833033924.jpg?629
Mario "Thumper" Harvey, LB, Marshall, 5'11 1/2" 257


Mario blew up his pro-day running a 4.43 forty (fastest LB @ combine was a 4.49). Harvey ran like a receiver by some accounts while also benching 225 27 times. Cowboys Rob BL Ryan graded Mario #6 ILB prospect & feels can be developed into an everydown 3-4 LB with enough edge speed to flip outside in assorted blitz packages. Excellent closing speed & ability to run ball carrier down, very productive 2010 stats: 142 tackles, 16.5 TFL, 7.5 sacks, 7 PBU's (420 tackles for career). Will excel in special teams as well.

Sounds like a great prospect.

beerlover
03-25-2011, 07:02 PM
Sounds like a great prospect.

his stock has sky rocketed since his pro day, created quite a buzz among scouts. I thought 5th rd. grade was fair before, now I'm not really sure? this is the type of pick you want here. someone who fits your system (3-4 ILB prospect) he should have a high ceiling, be a position of need & team must have patience developing him without setting him back confidence wise. To bridge the gap as I mentioned he is unblockable on special teams, not sure how the rule changes will impact that facet of the game but a valuable tool to have regardless.

kiwitexansfan
03-25-2011, 07:10 PM
his stock has sky rocketed since his pro day, created quite a buzz among scouts. I thought 5th rd. grade was fair before, now I'm not really sure? this is the type of pick you want here. someone who fits your system (3-4 ILB prospect) he should have a high ceiling, be a position of need & team must have patience developing him without setting him back confidence wise. To bridge the gap as I mentioned he is unblockable on special teams, not sure how the rule changes will impact that facet of the game but a valuable tool to have regardless.

What are his weaknesses?

Dutchrudder
03-25-2011, 07:23 PM
What are his weaknesses?

Being nicknamed after a character from Bambi makes him sound like a softy...

:kitten:

beerlover
03-25-2011, 07:38 PM
What are his weaknesses?

instincts reading coverages. he can stack & shed fine but motor runs hot sometimes & overshoots gap, otherwise first & foremost a relentless pass rusher

drs23
03-25-2011, 07:39 PM
I don't think we have 2 'yes-men' on the board...

Good call DR.

MSR

beerlover
03-25-2011, 07:44 PM
Being nicknamed after a character from Bambi makes him sound like a softy...

:kitten:

Thumper was one of my early favorite Disney animation characters for sure but I wouldn't mistake him for that character.

http://www.dispatch.com/live/content/buckeyextra/stories/gameday/2010/week1/across.html

His former position coach, Steve Dunlap, hung that nickname on Harvey in his freshman year, when Harvey was competing in an inside-run drill in which defenders take on a blocker while also trying to stop a runner.

"Everybody just saw me as a short freshman linebacker, and a lineman came up on me and thought I was going to back down from him," Harvey said.

"I wasn't going to back down from nobody. I laid him out, and coach Dunlap said, 'Oh, you're a thumper.' Everybody started laughing. He started saying it out on the field all the time, and ever since then, it just stuck with me."

The difficulty that blockers have in intercepting Harvey before he builds a full head of steam is compounded by the edge he gains by his stature. At 6 feet, he can be hard to see behind linemen 6 inches taller as he runs to the ball.

"I use that to my advantage," he said.

steelbtexan
03-25-2011, 11:09 PM
http://www.fanaticalfootballfiend.com/uploads/5/6/9/8/5698103/833033924.jpg?629
Mario "Thumper" Harvey, LB, Marshall, 5'11 1/2" 257


Mario blew up his pro-day running a 4.43 forty (fastest LB @ combine was a 4.49). Harvey ran like a receiver by some accounts while also benching 225 27 times. Cowboys Rob BL Ryan graded Mario #6 ILB prospect & feels can be developed into an everydown 3-4 LB with enough edge speed to flip outside in assorted blitz packages. Excellent closing speed & ability to run ball carrier down, very productive 2010 stats: 142 tackles, 16.5 TFL, 7.5 sacks, 7 PBU's (420 tackles for career). Will excel in special teams as well.

Carolina was hoping he would fall to the top of the 6th rd.

beerlover
03-25-2011, 11:38 PM
Carolina was hoping he would fall to the top of the 6th rd.

trying to steal him are you?

from Charlotte Observer -

Harvey has the big size you need in a 3-4 ILB, both Beason and Conner or too small for 3-4 ILB's, besides both being free agents at the end of this season. Dan Connor has been injury prone, missing about half his time with the Panthers. If Harvey should be available when the Panthers draft in the 4th or 5th round, then they might consider drafting him

Lucky
03-25-2011, 11:41 PM
Harvey has the big size you need in a 3-4 ILB, both Beason and Conner or too small for 3-4 ILB's
Why is that an issue, since the Panthers will play a 4-3 under Ron Rivera?

Trap_Star
03-26-2011, 12:51 AM
Redskins select

http://cdn.cloudfiles.mosso.com/c1910342/media_center/images/rendered/blog/wysiwyg/Chris-Conte.jpg

Chris Conte, FS, Cal

recruited as a CB and but moved to S. first team all-pac10. instinctive and superb tackler for a S. good athlete that even returned kicks for jeff tedford. needs to improve his ball skills but he can run and cover. should go in the mid 3rd to early 4th.

steelbtexan
03-26-2011, 12:58 AM
Redskins select

http://cdn.cloudfiles.mosso.com/c1910342/media_center/images/rendered/blog/wysiwyg/Chris-Conte.jpg

Chris Conte, FS, Cal

recruited as a CB and but moved to S. first team all-pac10. instinctive and superb tackler for a S. good athlete that even returned kicks for jeff tedford. needs to improve his ball skills but he can run and cover. should go in the mid 3rd to early 4th.

This is a guy I hope falls to the Texans in the 3-4th rd.

I have him rated higher than Rahim Moore. Of course Moore is way overrated. IMHO

kiwitexansfan
03-26-2011, 07:54 AM
As a GM I don't generally value RBs very highly as there shelf life is generally short and a good scheme and blocking can make a run game.

Prospects come out of nowhere (Arian Foster) and gems can be found in many rounds.

However with the Dolphins run game in limbo with Williams and Brown likely not to be here next year the Dolphins have decided to add a back.

With their selection the Miami Dolphins select Jordan Todman, RB, Conneticut.

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x97/soxanddawgs/2010uconn/57018532.jpg

kiwitexansfan
03-26-2011, 07:55 AM
I was targetting Todman and Vereen so I am glad Todman lasted this long.

beerlover
03-26-2011, 09:22 AM
Why is that an issue, since the Panthers will play a 4-3 under Ron Rivera?

he would like to run 3-4 more often. this may give some indication where they go with 1st pick. Fairley could play 3-4 DE & Dareus nose tackle but still fit 4-3 scheme inside. unless they went QB of course?

Texan4Ever
03-26-2011, 10:26 AM
Did I get skipped over? I thought I picked next after the Redskins? I went ahead and PMd SuperMario in case I wasn't around so I'm just wondering...

Kulluminatii
03-26-2011, 11:03 AM
Did I get skipped over? I thought I picked next after the Redskins? I went ahead and PMd SuperMario in case I wasn't around so I'm just wondering...

Damn, I can't believe no one realized you were skipped! Sorry about that man, who was your pick? I'm hoping its not someone who has been picked up already, but if so, then I guess thats up to you, SuperMario, and whoever picked the player you were aiming for.

kiwitexansfan
03-26-2011, 11:14 AM
Did I get skipped over? I thought I picked next after the Redskins? I went ahead and PMd SuperMario in case I wasn't around so I'm just wondering...

Sorry, didn't see your name in there when I was looking at pick order.

If you want Todman he's yours, it will give me an excuse to pick a Husker.

Texan4Ever
03-26-2011, 11:14 AM
Damn, I can't believe no one realized you were skipped! Sorry about that man, who was your pick? I'm hoping its not someone who has been picked up already, but if so, then I guess thats up to you, SuperMario, and whoever picked the player you were aiming for.


Its cool! I just wanted to make sure I wasn't looking at the wrong list. Let me know if my pick has been taken because as far as I know, the player is still on the board.

Texan4Ever
03-26-2011, 11:19 AM
With the 142nd pick, the St. Louis Rams select...

Eric Hagg, DB Nebraska

http://www.ohio-share.coxnewsweb.com/multimedia/dynamic/00797/Nebraska_Oklahoma_S_797474b.jpg

Oshiomogho Atogwe is now with the Redskins, and although the Rams can move players around in the defensive secondary, they can still use a play making safety to play either SS or FS. Hagg provides the Rams with a decent size defender who hits hard and can also return punts.

kiwitexansfan
03-26-2011, 11:22 AM
With the 142nd pick, the St. Louis Rams select...

Eric Hagg, DB Nebraska

http://www.ohio-share.coxnewsweb.com/multimedia/dynamic/00797/Nebraska_Oklahoma_S_797474b.jpg

Oshiomogho Atogwe is now with the Redskins, and although the Rams can move players around in the defensive secondary, they can still use a play making safety to play either SS or FS. Hagg provides the Rams with a decent size defender who hits hard and can also return punts.

I'm really torn on Hagg. Watching games he makes plays and looks the goods but he doesn't test well for an NFL player.

Hopefully he is athletic enough to transfer his skills to the NFL, if he is then you got a good player at about the right place.

(and not the Husker I was looking for an excuse to take)

Texan4Ever
03-26-2011, 11:35 AM
^ My rationale for taking Hagg is based on his athletic ability. He has decent size and can recover quickly when covering players (he can cover TEs and slot receivers with relative ease for the most part).

He's a better tackler IMO than some of the safeties that have been taken before him. Wraps up well and takes good angles. Hagg can also blitz effectively and make plays at crucial moments.

The one problem that I see with him is that he can be easily run over and doesn't explode into the ball carrier. He also needs to work on disengaging from blocks and using his hands better when in position to make plays.

kiwitexansfan
03-26-2011, 12:02 PM
One opinion (http://www.sidelinescouting.com/rankings/s/eric-hagg.shtml) of him....

Positives: Has above-average size for the position, good bulk for his frame... Has good pop in his pads, is big enough to jar the ball loose and punish opposing ball carriers... Durability not an issue, has not missed any substantial time due to injury... Is a versatile defensive back, can line up at either strong safety or free safety... Has decent range and pretty good fluidity for his size... Instincts are solid, flows well with the play and generally knows where he is supposed to be, is smart and heady... Will make a good teammate and character guy at the next level.

Negatives: Did not really impress at the Senior Bowl, looked slow and a bit out of place... Did not run well at the combine... Not much of a playmaker, did record five interceptions in 2010, but did not have much of a statistical impact before that season... Needs to do a better job of locating the football, ball skills are just adequate at best... Not very quick, change-of-direction skills and agility are lacking... Doesn’t seem like a center-field safety, will not have the range in the NFL to cover the whole deep portion of the field.

And you really need a picture of him...

http://sports.cbsimg.net/images/football/nfl/players/60x80/1619876.jpg

FWIW I hope we grab him for the Texans in the 6th or 7th.

Honoring Earl 34
03-26-2011, 12:17 PM
One opinion (http://www.sidelinescouting.com/rankings/s/eric-hagg.shtml) of him....

Positives: Has above-average size for the position, good bulk for his frame... Has good pop in his pads, is big enough to jar the ball loose and punish opposing ball carriers... Durability not an issue, has not missed any substantial time due to injury... Is a versatile defensive back, can line up at either strong safety or free safety... Has decent range and pretty good fluidity for his size... Instincts are solid, flows well with the play and generally knows where he is supposed to be, is smart and heady... Will make a good teammate and character guy at the next level.

Negatives: Did not really impress at the Senior Bowl, looked slow and a bit out of place... Did not run well at the combine... Not much of a playmaker, did record five interceptions in 2010, but did not have much of a statistical impact before that season... Needs to do a better job of locating the football, ball skills are just adequate at best... Not very quick, change-of-direction skills and agility are lacking... Doesn’t seem like a center-field safety, will not have the range in the NFL to cover the whole deep portion of the field.

And you really need a picture of him...

http://sports.cbsimg.net/images/football/nfl/players/60x80/1619876.jpg

FWIW I hope we grab him for the Texans in the 6th or 7th.

The dude ran slow because of the drag on the fro .

steelbtexan
03-26-2011, 12:31 PM
Hagg = Barber

Depth guy, who will be good on ST's.

The Pencil Neck
03-26-2011, 01:08 PM
As a GM I don't generally value RBs very highly as there shelf life is generally short and a good scheme and blocking can make a run game.

Prospects come out of nowhere (Arian Foster) and gems can be found in many rounds.

However with the Dolphins run game in limbo with Williams and Brown likely not to be here next year the Dolphins have decided to add a back.

With their selection the Miami Dolphins select Jordan Todman, RB, Conneticut.

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x97/soxanddawgs/2010uconn/57018532.jpg

Good pick. I expected this guy to go 30-40 picks ago.

kiwitexansfan
03-26-2011, 01:22 PM
Good pick. I expected this guy to go 30-40 picks ago.

He probably should have. I think if you get him in a situation where he didn't have to do it all by himself he could be a very good #1 back.

steelbtexan
03-26-2011, 01:22 PM
Yep, a team like the Lions,49ers or Redskins will pick this guy much higher.

Dutchrudder
03-26-2011, 01:44 PM
On the Clock:

144.) Jacksonville Jaguars - Super Mario

145.) Oakland Raiders - Kulluminati

146.) Philadelphia Eagles - jgl35

147.) Minnesota Vikings - JCTexan

148.) Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Senor Stan

149.) Indianapolis Colts - ArlingtonTexan

150.) Philadelphia Eagles - jgl35



If Super Mario doesn't show up by 2pm, should we pick for him??

:kitten:

steelbtexan
03-26-2011, 01:57 PM
On the Clock:

144.) Jacksonville Jaguars - Super Mario

145.) Oakland Raiders - Kulluminati

146.) Philadelphia Eagles - jgl35

147.) Minnesota Vikings - JCTexan

148.) Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Senor Stan

149.) Indianapolis Colts - ArlingtonTexan

150.) Philadelphia Eagles - jgl35



If Super Mario doesn't show up by 2pm, should we pick for him??

:kitten:

Sure

LOL

Blake
03-26-2011, 02:28 PM
lol yall do realize the clock stops on the weekend right?

Kulluminatii
03-26-2011, 02:32 PM
lol yall do realize the clock stops on the weekend right?

Uhh....of course we do bro...of course we do. :whistle:



Sooooooo, with that being said, you gonna make your pick today or no? :D

Blake
03-26-2011, 02:33 PM
Either a wasted pick or a big-time steal.

Jeremy Beal, LB, Oklahoma

http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/slides/photos/000/531/989/92290486_display_image.jpg?1291042761

Bad combine and senior bowl, but his gametape is undeniably good.

Kulluminatii
03-26-2011, 02:36 PM
Either a wasted pick or a big-time steal.

Jeremy Beal, LB, Oklahoma

http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/slides/photos/000/531/989/92290486_display_image.jpg?1291042761

Bad combine and senior bowl, but his gametape is undeniably good.

I like the pick, not a big need for the Raiders but if he had fallen to the 6th round I may have grabbed him. Now to make my pick, got 2-3 players I'm trying to decide between, should probably have my pick in shortly.

Dutchrudder
03-26-2011, 03:01 PM
lol yall do realize the clock stops on the weekend right?

I'm just joking with ya :D

Kulluminatii
03-26-2011, 03:09 PM
With the 145th pick in the draft, the Oakland Raiders select...


http://image.cdnl3.xosnetwork.com/pics31/400/JG/JGDRUXAXYLEOAAW.20100225170116.jpg

Derek Newton, OT, Arkansas State

Analysis:Positives: Good initial quickness off the snap. Gains depth immediately with an efficient kick-slide. Long arms to reach the defender. Good lateral agility and balance to mirror the defender. Plays on the balls of his feet and with his knees bent. Shows good flexibility and at least moderate core strength to handle the bull rush. Good quickness and agility to block on the move in the running game. Shows a burst upfield and can re-direct. Good trap blocker due to his quickness and arm length. Beats the defender off the snap and can turn and seal the edge. Good recognition. Points out the blitzing defender and makes at least some of the line calls for this offense.

Negatives: Quick first step back off the snap, but takes too sharp of an angle when dropping back, giving the defender the edge. Thin arms with only moderate strength; unable to control the defender despite getting his hands on him. Better as a seal blocker moving in space than a drive blocker. Lacks the strength and too often the pad level to knock defenders off the ball. Would like to see nastiness in his play. Seems content with dancing rather than dominating.

kiwitexansfan
03-26-2011, 03:21 PM
With the 145th pick in the draft, the Oakland Raiders select...


http://image.cdnl3.xosnetwork.com/pics31/400/JG/JGDRUXAXYLEOAAW.20100225170116.jpg

Derek Newton, OT, Arkansas State

Analysis:

To the eyeball test, dude looks a little skinny for an OT, not surprised to read he lacks strength.

Dutchrudder
03-26-2011, 03:24 PM
To the eyeball test, dude looks a little skinny for an OT, not surprised to read he lacks strength.

Well then the Raiders will have to put him on the JaMarcus Russell Diet for a year. Then he will come back as a 320 pound offensive rock to anchor the O-line for years to come!

The Pencil Neck
03-26-2011, 03:31 PM
Either a wasted pick or a big-time steal.

Jeremy Beal, LB, Oklahoma

http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/slides/photos/000/531/989/92290486_display_image.jpg?1291042761

Bad combine and senior bowl, but his gametape is undeniably good.

CBS Sports has him ranked 147 on their list and in the Walter Mock, he went 156.

I think this is a nice spot for him but I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't go a little earlier because of his tape.

beerlover
03-26-2011, 03:47 PM
Either a wasted pick or a big-time steal.

Jeremy Beal, LB, Oklahoma

http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/slides/photos/000/531/989/92290486_display_image.jpg?1291042761

Bad combine and senior bowl, but his gametape is undeniably good.

what is this infatuation with DE's in the swamp called Jacksonville

jgl35
03-26-2011, 04:25 PM
The Eagles select Alex Henery K/P Nebraska.
Akers did not sign his tender. Rocca is also a FA though he did sign a tender.

Henery is a very unique player. I can not think of a kicker who can both kick and punt at an NFL level. Henery can.
Can hit the long FG and has kicked outdoors in the cold and wind at Neb. By being both the kicker and punter, Henery opens a roster spot for a position player.

kiwitexansfan
03-26-2011, 04:48 PM
The Eagles select Alex Henery K/P Nebraska.
Akers did not sign his tender. Rocca is also a FA though he did sign a tender.

Henery is a very unique player. I can not think of a kicker who can both kick and punt at an NFL level. Henery can.
Can hit the long FG and has kicked outdoors in the cold and wind at Neb. By being both the kicker and punter, Henery opens a roster spot for a position player.

Wouldn't bank on Henery being an NFL quality punter, but he is a very consistent and clutch kicker.

Blake
03-26-2011, 05:02 PM
what is this infatuation with DE's in the swamp called Jacksonville

Quentin Groves was traded to the Raiders, Derrick Harvey has been a colossal bust, Larry Hart and Austen Lane were 5th round draft picks last year. So they actually need a bit of help at DE. But I am going to give Beal a chance at OLB along with Martez Wilson, in their hybrid defense. Kerrigan will start at DE with Austen Lane.

Kulluminatii
03-26-2011, 05:38 PM
To the eyeball test, dude looks a little skinny for an OT, not surprised to read he lacks strength.

Well he's 6'5 311 lbs, so he could definitely could use another 10-20 pounds. He's isn't what comes to mind when you think of an ideal OT...but maybe in 2-3 years he'll be able to develop into one.


Well then the Raiders will have to put him on the JaMarcus Russell Diet for a year. Then he will come back as a 320 pound offensive rock to anchor the O-line for years to come!

Yup, that'll do the trick :D.

kiwitexansfan
03-26-2011, 06:02 PM
Well he's 6'5 311 lbs, so he could definitely could use another 10-20 pounds. He's isn't what comes to mind when you think of an ideal OT...but maybe in 2-3 years he'll be able to develop into one.

Yup, that'll do the trick :D.

So funny that in the NFL we are calling 300lb guys underweight, so different to real life.

SAMURAITEXAN
03-26-2011, 07:26 PM
So funny that in the NFL we are calling 300lb guys underweight, so different to real life.

So true Kiwi, just imagine me a normal size Japanese guy standing next to a Sumo wrestler.

Go Texans!!!

JCTexan
03-26-2011, 08:15 PM
With the 147th pick the Minnesota Vikings select...

http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r114/knight7225/AlabamavSouthCarolina016g2ggMivUl.jpg

Chris Culliver, FS, South Carolina

Showed good instincts as a free safety. While aggressive, Culliver was rarely out of position and showed the discipline to stay home on trick plays and misdirection. Reads the eyes of the quarterback and gets a good break on the ball. Normal acceleration with a late burst to close. Quick, active hands in press coverage. Understands zone concepts and due to his experience at free safety and cornerback, understands the role of each member of the secondary.

Blake
03-26-2011, 08:21 PM
Via Proxy Selection: Senor Stan selects

148.) Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Brandon Hogan, CB, West Virgina

On the clock:

149.) Indianapolis Colts - ArlingtonTexan

150.) Philadelphia Eagles - jgl35

151.) Detroit Lions - pbat488

152.) Washington Redskins - Trap_Star

153.) Seattle Seahawks - The Pencil Neck

154.) Seattle Seahawks - The Pencil Neck

beerlover
03-26-2011, 08:29 PM
with the 147th pick the minnesota vikings select...

http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r114/knight7225/alabamavsouthcarolina016g2ggmivul.jpg

chris culliver, fs, south carolina

showed good instincts as a free safety. While aggressive, culliver was rarely out of position and showed the discipline to stay home on trick plays and misdirection. Reads the eyes of the quarterback and gets a good break on the ball. Normal acceleration with a late burst to close. Quick, active hands in press coverage. Understands zone concepts and due to his experience at free safety and cornerback, understands the role of each member of the secondary.

good pick jc

JCTexan
03-26-2011, 08:45 PM
good pick jc

Thanks.

steelbtexan
03-26-2011, 08:48 PM
good pick jc

Agreed

Both Pronski and Culliver are great values at this point and I hope the Texans pick one of them in the 3/4 rd range.

The talent is there this yr on the defensive side of the ball. Rick and Gary just have to do their jobs.

Honoring Earl 34
03-26-2011, 08:57 PM
Agreed

Both Pronski and Culliver are great values at this point and I hope the Texans pick one of them in the 3/4 rd range.

The talent is there this yr on the defensive side of the ball. Rick and Gary just have to do their jobs.

Culliver is a gamecock .

beerlover
03-26-2011, 11:59 PM
Not to brag or anything but Move over Prince Amukamara, mock drafts predicting Tyron Smith to Cowboys

By JON MACHOTA / Special Contributor
Published 26 March 2011 01:38 PM
Related items When I last published a mock draft roundup on March 8, Prince Amukamara was the hot name linked to the Dallas Cowboys. Of the 13 mock drafts included, all 13 had the Cowboys taking the cornerback from Nebraska with their ninth overall selection.

However, things have changed quite a bit since then. During a recent gathering of projections, Tyron Smith has gained a considerable amount of momentum. In mock drafts compiled since March 16, Smith has overtaken Amukamara as the favorite to land in Dallas.

The 6-5, 315 pound offensive tackle from USC, who many consider to be the top blocker in this class, is scheduled to be one of the 30 players the Cowboys interview before the draft on April 28.

The dramatic change from Amukama’s name being chosen across the board is peculiar because it doesn’t appear that the defensive back has done much since early March to warrant a rise or fall in his stock. Some publications had the 6-0, 205 pounder falling while others had him being grabbed a pick or two before the Cowboys would have a chance at adding him to their secondary.

The defensive end position also produced a few possible future Cowboy candidates. Wisconsin’s J.J. Watt, North Carolina’s Robert Quinn and surprisingly, even Clemson’s Da’Quan Bowers were each mentioned as No. 9 picks in mock drafts. Bowers has been considered a top five pick and the best pass rusher in the draft by several analysts.


http://www.dallasnews.com/sports/dallas-cowboys/headlines/20110326-move-over-prince-amukamara-mock-drafts-predicting-tyron-smith-to-cowboys-.ece

kiwitexansfan
03-27-2011, 09:14 AM
Not to brag or anything but Move over Prince Amukamara, mock drafts predicting Tyron Smith to Cowboys



http://www.dallasnews.com/sports/dallas-cowboys/headlines/20110326-move-over-prince-amukamara-mock-drafts-predicting-tyron-smith-to-cowboys-.ece

Just quietly at this stage there are so many mocks with people going so many places that everyone has been selected by everyone at least once.

In saying that I hope you are all right and Smith does go before us so another defender falls to us.

beerlover
03-27-2011, 11:46 AM
Just quietly at this stage there are so many mocks with people going so many places that everyone has been selected by everyone at least once.

In saying that I hope you are all right and Smith does go before us so another defender falls to us.

Well at the time it seemed I was going against the grain. It was unanimous consensus Cowboys would select Prince Amukamara. When I found out I was going to be selecting for the Cowboys, my game plan was to look at as many angles as possible to fill their most pressing needs while snagging BPA with every pick. The key to this was nailing that OT with 1st pick. I was in the minority giving Tyron Smith a Top 10 grade, even on our group Big Board, last I checked he was slotted #13. Then I was able to focus on secondary needs (CB, Curtis Brown & CB Brandon Burton who I project could be one hell of a FS). With the 4th rd. pick took one of the drafts toughest inside OG's to fill out revamped Cowboys right side. Mario Harvey is my sleeper pick & Cowboys need inside LB help.

long story short, taking Tryon helped facilitate a very strong draft for Cowboy nation.

steelbtexan
03-27-2011, 12:24 PM
Well at the time it seemed I was going against the grain. It was unanimous consensus Cowboys would select Prince Amukamara. When I found out I was going to be selecting for the Cowboys, my game plan was to look at as many angles as possible to fill their most pressing needs while snagging BPA with every pick. The key to this was nailing that OT with 1st pick. I was in the minority giving Tyron Smith a Top 10 grade, even on our group Big Board, last I checked he was slotted #13. Then I was able to focus on secondary needs (CB, Curtis Brown & CB Brandon Burton who I project could be one hell of a FS). With the 4th rd. pick took one of the drafts toughest inside OG's to fill out revamped Cowboys right side. Mario Harvey is my sleeper pick & Cowboys need inside LB help.

long story short, taking Tryon helped facilitate a very strong draft for Cowboy nation.

You've done a great job filling most of the holes for the Cowgirls with great/good talent. JJ wont do as good a job in the war room.

Rd.1 Smith-love pick, Perfect RT as a rookie,has ability to move to LT with experience.
Rd.2 C.Brown-Meh, He has the ability to be a solid CB with some coaching.
Rd.3 Burton-He has more god given ability than Brown, Could turn out to be a very good CB, or at worst an upgrade at FS. Love pick
Rd.4 Schilling- very good player and an upgrade over Montrae Holland, I like Moffitt more. Matter of taste
Rd.5 Harvey-Steal of the draft, I believe he will be a 10 yr starter, dude is a playmaker.

Bah, JC Texan and BL have all had great Mock drafts. Job well done.

I also like JB/Steel B's- Carolina draft, LOL

beerlover
03-27-2011, 12:34 PM
You've done a great job filling most of the holes for the Cowgirls with great/good talent. JJ wont do as good a job in the war room.

Rd.1 Smith-love pick, Perfect RT as a rookie,has ability to move to LT with experience.
Rd.2 C.Brown-Meh, He has the ability to be a solid CB with some coaching.
Rd.3 Burton-He has more god given ability than Brown, Could turn out to be a very good CB, or at worst an upgrade at FS. Love pick
Rd.4 Schilling- very good player and an upgrade over Montrae Holland, I like Moffitt more. Matter of taste
Rd.5 Harvey-Steal of the draft, I believe he will be a 10 yr starter, dude is a playmaker.

Bah, JC Texan and BL have all had great Mock drafts. Job well done.

I also like JB/Steel B's- Carolina draft, LOL

thanks man, great minds think alike :toast2:

JCTexan
03-27-2011, 01:39 PM
You've done a great job filling most of the holes for the Cowgirls with great/good talent. JJ wont do as good a job in the war room.

Rd.1 Smith-love pick, Perfect RT as a rookie,has ability to move to LT with experience.
Rd.2 C.Brown-Meh, He has the ability to be a solid CB with some coaching.
Rd.3 Burton-He has more god given ability than Brown, Could turn out to be a very good CB, or at worst an upgrade at FS. Love pick
Rd.4 Schilling- very good player and an upgrade over Montrae Holland, I like Moffitt more. Matter of taste
Rd.5 Harvey-Steal of the draft, I believe he will be a 10 yr starter, dude is a playmaker.

Bah, JC Texan and BL have all had great Mock drafts. Job well done.

I also like JB/Steel B's- Carolina draft, LOL

Thanks. Do you like both the Vikings & Saints drafts?

beerlover
03-27-2011, 01:59 PM
Thanks. Do you like both the Vikings & Saints drafts?

Vikings draft made taking Gabbert, I think he could wind up being selected #1 overall? not a fan of Sheard, love Rackley & Culliver selections. projecting Ian in a 4-3 front different.

grade so far: above average

Saints need a RB, the position is undervalued in our mock draft. Austin is a steal, borderline first round talent. I agree that Acho is better suited to be a 4-3 RDE. Foster looks like a solid WILL.

grade so far: above average

steelbtexan
03-27-2011, 02:11 PM
Love the Saints draft

Looking at the Vikings draft, If Gabbert is what he's supposed to be this is a great draft. I love all of the picks. Sheard wasn't even a reach. If he lives up to his potential your Vikings mock will be the best in this draft. Other than Bah's based on sheer # of picks.

kiwitexansfan
03-28-2011, 10:58 AM
So where are we at with this?

I take it whoever is up as till 2pm to make their pick or we group pick it?

Blake
03-28-2011, 11:33 AM
So where are we at with this?

I take it whoever is up as till 2pm to make their pick or we group pick it?

149.) Indianapolis Colts - ArlingtonTexan (On the clock since 8am)

150.) Philadelphia Eagles - jgl35

151.) Detroit Lions - pbat488

152.) Washington Redskins - Trap_Star

153.) Seattle Seahawks - The Pencil Neck

154.) Seattle Seahawks - The Pencil Neck

Dutchrudder
03-28-2011, 01:21 PM
Colts draft so far:

Gabe Carimi, OT, Wisconson
Rodney Hudson OL, Florida State
Jacquizz Rodgers, RB, Oregon state
Ahamd Black, S, Florida

They should probably go with a front 7 position. They could use some help at DT.

Blake
03-28-2011, 01:29 PM
Colts draft so far:

Gabe Carimi, OT, Wisconson
Rodney Hudson OL, Florida State
Jacquizz Rodgers, RB, Oregon state
Ahamd Black, S, Florida

They should probably go with a front 7 position. They could use some help at DT.

Pick a DT then.

Blake
03-28-2011, 02:51 PM
Colts select: Cedric Thornton, DT, Southern Arkansas

Blake
03-28-2011, 02:52 PM
Via PROXY jgl35's eagles select: Dion Lewis, RB, Pittsburgh

Señor Stan
03-28-2011, 03:02 PM
Via PROXY jgl35's eagles select: Dion Lewis, RB, Pittsburgh

Dang it... nice pick

ArlingtonTexan
03-28-2011, 03:47 PM
Colts select: Cedric Thornton, DT, Southern Arkansas

Sorry, one of the few long gaps during the week where I am away from the computer totally.

jgl35
03-28-2011, 04:42 PM
This concludes the Eagles draft as they have no picks in the last two rounds.
What I wanted to do is get a starting guard and depth on the interior O. line. With Pouncey and Ijalana, I drafted a starter at RG and two players that can play more than one position along the line. Along with Mike McGlynn, the Eagles now have three young players on the interior line.

I took DB Gilchrist as he also can return kick-offs, and also to compete with Tervard Lindley for a starting CB position. Let me say here that I expect the Eagles to make a big run and sign Asomugha from Oakland if things return to normal. The Eagles will go after and sign high price free agents. The last name free agent CB was Samuel, who the Eagles signed.

Jarrett Safety was taken in case Quintin Mikell leaves in FA. The Eagles only carried 4 Safteys, so someone is needed.

Herzlich was too good a player to pass on, even with the health risk. The Eagles need help at OLB so this is also a position of need.

Henery was selected because Akers did not sign his tender. Henery is a cold weather, outdoor kicker, and one of the better ones to come out in quit a while.

Lewis will be a very good back up to LeSean McCoy.

kiwitexansfan
03-28-2011, 04:44 PM
This concludes the Eagles draft as they have no picks in the last two rounds.
What I wanted to do is get a starting guard and depth on the interior O. line. With Pouncey and Ijalana, I drafted a starter at RG and two players that can play more than one position along the line. Along with Mike McGlynn, the Eagles now have three young players on the interior line.

I took DB Gilchrist as he also can return kick-offs, and also to compete with Tervard Lindley for a starting CB position. Let me say here that I expect the Eagles to make a big run and sign Asomugha from Oakland if things return to normal. The Eagles will go after and sign high price free agents. The last name free agent CB was Samuel, who the Eagles signed.

Jarrett Safety was taken in case Quintin Mikell leaves in FA. The Eagles only carried 4 Safteys, so someone is needed.

Herzlich was too good a player to pass on, even with the health risk. The Eagles need help at OLB so this is also a position of need.

Henery was selected because Akers did not sign his tender. Henery is a cold weather, outdoor kicker, and one of the better ones to come out in quit a while.

Lewis will be a very good back up to LeSean McCoy.

Nice draft, you did the Eagles proud.

Blake
03-28-2011, 09:58 PM
Guys, some of yall are making this unbearably slow. Lets pick it up. Either make your damn pick or PM it to someone. This isnt rocket science.

151.) Detroit Lions - pbat488

152.) Washington Redskins - Trap_Star

153.) Seattle Seahawks - The Pencil Neck

154.) Seattle Seahawks - The Pencil Neck

155.) Atlanta Falcons - Group Pick

156.) New England Patriots - bah007

157.) Chicago Bears - drs23

158.) New York Jets - stingray

159.) Pittsburgh Steelers - ole miss texan

160.) Green Bay Packers -thunderkyss
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Texan4Ever
03-28-2011, 10:15 PM
Guys, some of yall are making this unbearably slow. Lets pick it up. Either make your damn pick or PM it to someone. This isnt rocket science.

151.) Detroit Lions - pbat488

152.) Washington Redskins - Trap_Star

153.) Seattle Seahawks - The Pencil Neck

154.) Seattle Seahawks - The Pencil Neck

155.) Atlanta Falcons - Group Pick

156.) New England Patriots - bah007

157.) Chicago Bears - drs23

158.) New York Jets - stingray

159.) Pittsburgh Steelers - ole miss texan

160.) Green Bay Packers -thunderkyss
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The Seahawks have Pmd me there pick(s).

pbat488
03-28-2011, 10:39 PM
With the 151st pick in the Texans Talk mock draft, the Detroit Lions select....


http://babcockandbabcock.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/Allen-2.jpg


Pierre Allen, DE, Nebraska

A solid player for a great Nebraska defense over the past couple of years, he reteams with Suh to make the Lions D-Line even more formidable. Learns from Vanden Douche the finer points of the game as he eases into the starting role within a couple of years with a more refined pass rush technique.

Detroit Lions draft so far:
1. Anthony Castonzo, OT, BC
2. Bruce Carter, OLB, UNC
3. Johnny Patrick, CB, Louisville
4. K.J. Wright, LB, Mississippi State
5. Pierre Allen, DE, Nebraska

steelbtexan
03-28-2011, 11:55 PM
Not bad

Love the Castonzo pick

Trap_Star
03-29-2011, 02:37 AM
the washington redskins select:

http://tnjn.com/content/storyimage/2010/09/26/Moore_game_winner.box.jpg

Denarius Moore, WR, Tenn

sleeper WR prospect...give him a step and he gone.

kiwitexansfan
03-29-2011, 08:19 AM
With the 151st pick in the Texans Talk mock draft, the Detroit Lions select....


http://babcockandbabcock.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/Allen-2.jpg


Pierre Allen, DE, Nebraska

A solid player for a great Nebraska defense over the past couple of years, he reteams with Suh to make the Lions D-Line even more formidable. Learns from Vanden Douche the finer points of the game as he eases into the starting role within a couple of years with a more refined pass rush technique.

Detroit Lions draft so far:
1. Anthony Castonzo, OT, BC
2. Bruce Carter, OLB, UNC
3. Johnny Patrick, CB, Louisville
4. K.J. Wright, LB, Mississippi State
5. Pierre Allen, DE, Nebraska

Allen wasn't one to leap off game film or terrorize quarterbacks but he is disciplined and holds up well at the point of attack. He'll work hard and show up every day.

Most draft preview sights have him as a 3rd or 4th rounder so you may have hit on a steal here.

Blake
03-29-2011, 09:40 AM
VIA PM PROXY THE PENCIL NECK SEAHAWKS SELECT

Jarriel King, OT, South Carolina
http://media.commercialappeal.com/media/img/photos/2009/01/15/15Hardy02_t607.jpg

Brandon Fusco, C, Slippery Rock
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/images/201012/20101218slipperyrock_500.jpg

Blake
03-29-2011, 09:41 AM
155.) Atlanta Falcons - Group Pick

156.) New England Patriots - bah007

157.) Chicago Bears - drs23

158.) New York Jets - stingray

159.) Pittsburgh Steelers - ole miss texan

160.) Green Bay Packers -thunderkyss