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JB
01-23-2011, 09:36 AM
I think this will be a very good game. Think the Packers will win late.

Dutchrudder
01-23-2011, 10:33 AM
Go cheeseheads! I predict a 34 to 16 win as jay cutler melts down and throws a bunch of INTs! :D

kiwitexansfan
01-23-2011, 11:12 AM
I expect the Packers to win but will be rooting for the Bears.

TheMatrix31
01-23-2011, 12:12 PM
I'll be rooting for the Packers. Not only do I want them to win, but I want them in place just in case, ughhhhhhh.....the Jets beat Pittsburgh.

Pollardized
01-23-2011, 12:45 PM
Da Bears!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I like Jay Cutler. I like Brian Urlacher. I like Lovie Smith. Go Bears!!!!!!!

Thorn
01-23-2011, 01:13 PM
I'll be rooting for the Packers. Not only do I want them to win, but I want them in place just in case, ughhhhhhh.....the Jets beat Pittsburgh.

Oh please no, not the Jets in the Super Bowl. Anything but that.

drs23
01-23-2011, 01:40 PM
I like the Pack in a close one. They need to hang onto the ball and rattle Cutler.

JB
01-23-2011, 02:10 PM
Rodgers is carving up the Bears!

7-0 Pack!

CloakNNNdagger
01-23-2011, 02:12 PM
The Packers look EXACTLY like the Texans.......................when the Texans are down in the 4th quarter by 20.:gun:

Mr teX
01-23-2011, 02:12 PM
Like clockwork...Ridiculous how efficient Rodgers runs that offense..

JB
01-23-2011, 02:13 PM
The Packers look EXACTLY like the Texans.......................when the Texans are down in the 4th quarter by 20.:gun:

Perhaps we will grow up a bit this year

Carr Bombed
01-23-2011, 02:15 PM
How the hell did Alex Smith go #1 ovrl and Aaron Rodgers plummet in the draft?

I wonder what it's like to be a 49ers fan and know that you passed on Aaron Rodgers for Alex Smith. Atleast with the Carr draft, there wasn't a stud QB taken after him. LOL, Joey Harrington was just as bad.

Mr teX
01-23-2011, 02:18 PM
How the hell did Alex Smith go #1 ovrl and Aaron Rodgers plummet in the draft?

I wonder what it's like to be a 49ers fan and know that you passed on Aaron Rodgers for Alex Smith. Atleast with the Carr draft, there wasn't a stud QB taken after him. LOL, Joey Harrington was just as bad.

They were talking about this on the radio this past week. I don't really remember rodgers' exact issue myself but they were saying he had some arm issues coming out (weak) & that he didn't really interview well etc.. also that he was a jeff tedford guy & those guys are known to have issues transitioning to the league.

Basically said that the years he spent on the bench he worked on getting his arm stronger & bulking himself up..said that the years he spent behind Favre really helped him alot.

JB
01-23-2011, 02:18 PM
Bears moving the ball also.

Showtime100
01-23-2011, 02:18 PM
First the Blackhawks lose, now if fortunes rolls the Bears lose. Good times. Let's see Chicago come up with a dumb song for this day.

As I post the Bears are doing a great job of answering. I love Championship weekend. :texanbill:

CloakNNNdagger
01-23-2011, 02:29 PM
How the hell did Alex Smith go #1 ovrl and Aaron Rodgers plummet in the draft?

I wonder what it's like to be a 49ers fan and know that you passed on Aaron Rodgers for Alex Smith. Atleast with the Carr draft, there wasn't a stud QB taken after him. LOL, Joey Harrington was just as bad.

They were talking about this on the radio this past week. I don't really remember rodgers' exact issue myself but they were saying he had some arm issues coming out (weak) & that he didn't really interview well etc.. also that he was a jeff tedford guy & those guys are known to have issues transitioning to the league.

Basically said that the years he spent on the bench he worked on getting his arm stronger & bulking himself up..said that the years he spent behind Favre really helped him alot.

Even though he came from a Pro college set, I remember the word with him coming out was he wasn't very athletic, lacked accuracy on longer passes, and showed poor pocket presence.

TexanSam
01-23-2011, 02:36 PM
How the hell did Alex Smith go #1 ovrl and Aaron Rodgers plummet in the draft?

I wonder what it's like to be a 49ers fan and know that you passed on Aaron Rodgers for Alex Smith. Atleast with the Carr draft, there wasn't a stud QB taken after him. LOL, Joey Harrington was just as bad.

Also, Niners had Mike McCarthy as their OC when they drafted Smith. They could have McCarthy and Rodgers right now!

thunderkyss
01-23-2011, 02:50 PM
Just curious to know if anyone watching the Bears defense notice any better play out of the DTs than what we've seen from Amobi & Cody?

Not that I necessarily disagree on Amobi's "bust" status. I do however wonder what the expectations of a 4-3 DT should be. More often than not, what I see from Amobi, imo, is pretty much the norm of what 4-3 defenses get out of that position.

I do understand expecting more from the player given his draft position. You take a DT at that spot, you expect Warren Sapp. I get that. But, you don't cut a player because he's not Warren Sapp. You don't bench a player because he's not Warren Sapp...... unless of course you have Warren Sapp on your team.

Anyway..... just saying.

Pollardized
01-23-2011, 02:54 PM
Man that Packers defense looks good. The Packers defensive coordinator might make a really good head coach...

thunderkyss
01-23-2011, 03:00 PM
How the hell did Alex Smith go #1 ovrl and Aaron Rodgers plummet in the draft?

I wonder what it's like to be a 49ers fan and know that you passed on Aaron Rodgers for Alex Smith. Atleast with the Carr draft, there wasn't a stud QB taken after him. LOL, Joey Harrington was just as bad.

Carr, Harrington, Smith...... all three started a significant number of games their first season in the NFL.

Aaron Rodgers was able to watch, learn, & study before picking up some bad, bad habits.

Of course this is just theory, & we'll never know how things may have turned out, if things went differently.

For one, had the 49ers drafted Aaron Rodgers #1 overall, that coaching/drafting staff at that time would have been under much more scrutiny than they were. Had it not made a difference, & Rodgers performed as poorly as Smith.... that staff may not have been around as long as they were.

It is curious though, that Alex Smith is considered a bust for the work he's done in San Francisco.... Martz however parlayed his time there to a job with the Chicago Bears.

TexanSam
01-23-2011, 03:05 PM
Is it really windy? 49 yard field goal is long but makeable. Or does the cold make that kick unlikely?

thunderkyss
01-23-2011, 03:09 PM
Man that Packers defense looks good. The Packers defensive coordinator might make a really good head coach...

It's kinda funny really.

The same was said when he was in Pittsburgh.

The same was said a few years after he was an actual head coach.

Things happened, head coach got blamed. He got fired.

So he goes to another team (actually another expansion team situation) truly made some decisions which warranted scrutiny of his ability....

& now, again....... he appears to have assembled a staff capable of getting talented young men play at an extremely high level. He did an amazing job dealing with injuries & distractions...

funny really...

thunderkyss
01-23-2011, 03:11 PM
How can you call that a 3-4 defense?

Their base set (judging by the frequency they use it) is two DL, 4 OLB, 5 DBs.

Showtime100
01-23-2011, 03:11 PM
3rd and 1, time out, telegraphed running play after the time out with a quarterback who's rolling doing the handoff. Sounds familiar.

Mr teX
01-23-2011, 03:12 PM
Carr, Harrington, Smith...... all three started a significant number of games their first season in the NFL.

Aaron Rodgers was able to watch, learn, & study before picking up some bad, bad habits.

Of course this is just theory, & we'll never know how things may have turned out, if things went differently.

For one, had the 49ers drafted Aaron Rodgers #1 overall, that coaching/drafting staff at that time would have been under much more scrutiny than they were. Had it not made a difference, & Rodgers performed as poorly as Smith.... that staff may not have been around as long as they were.

It is curious though, that Alex Smith is considered a bust for the work he's done in San Francisco.... Martz however parlayed his time there to a job with the Chicago Bears.

In year's past, i've been for throwing a qb in the fire if he's a 1st round draft pick. But as years have gone by, i'm kinda changing my tune. I'm seeing more & more of teams having guys do really well after they've sat for a year.

thunderkyss
01-23-2011, 03:20 PM
In year's past, i've been for throwing a qb in the fire if he's a 1st round draft pick. But as years have gone by, i'm kinda changing my tune. I'm seeing more & more of teams having guys do really well after they've sat for a year.

In this "what have you done for me lately" league, it's difficult for a coach to make that decision.

We were an expansion team, we won 4, 6, 7, then 2 games, with Tony Banks on the bench, all the while, setting records for most sacks given up by a team.

What were our expectations? Were we trying to win more games than that? Is that why we were "pressured" to start an inexperienced QB? Is that why we took the risk of ruining him?

Showtime100
01-23-2011, 03:23 PM
Wow. Was that off Driver's shoe?? Bad, bad luck on Rodgers.

The Pack get it back on a legit int. :splits:

Carr Bombed
01-23-2011, 03:27 PM
Cutler sucks. He should already have about 3 ints in the first half. He does not care is his WR is covered, double covered, or triple covered...he's just going to throw it up for grabs. :rolleyes:

Mr teX
01-23-2011, 03:28 PM
Who's GB's secondary coach? those guys are money when the ball is in the air... jesus.

Showtime100
01-23-2011, 03:28 PM
Cutler sucks. He should already have about 3 ints in the first half. He does not care is his WR is covered, double covered, or triple covered...he's just going to throw it up for grabs. :rolleyes:

I couldn't agree more. The replay shows he wasn't thinking when he threw the football.

CloakNNNdagger
01-23-2011, 03:30 PM
I couldn't agree more. The replay shows he wasn't thinking when he threw the football.


...............and he wasn't putting much thought into it BEFORE he threw......:gun:

thunderkyss
01-23-2011, 03:30 PM
Who's GB's secondary coach? those guys are money when the ball is in the air... jesus.

Funny you posted this right after Carr Bomb's assertion that the Packers should have several INTs by now.


Money?? surely you that in a way we don't......

I'm watching this on a DVR, I just noticed that INT off Driver's foot was by a LB. I wish our LBs would be that involved in the passing game...

Carr Bombed
01-23-2011, 03:30 PM
Who's GB's secondary coach? those guys are money when the ball is in the air... jesus.

They should make Jay Cutler their agent, because he's going to get them all new contracts before this game is over.

Mr teX
01-23-2011, 03:30 PM
Cutler sucks, but that particular play was just a great play by Shields imo. Dude high pointed the hell out of that ball.

thunderkyss
01-23-2011, 03:32 PM
That last INT, was because of the bump at the LOS. Had it not been for that, Knox would have flew by Shields.

Showtime100
01-23-2011, 03:34 PM
Damn. Jimmy Johnson took him some Viagra today or something.

Carr Bombed
01-23-2011, 03:35 PM
Cutler sucks, but that particular play was just a great play by Shields imo. Dude high pointed the hell out of that ball.

Yeah it was a great athletic play to get the pick, but Cutler should of never thrown the ball....the dude was covered. Jay just doesn't care, he'll still throw the ball. He's turned his WRs into DBs out there.

Mr teX
01-23-2011, 03:38 PM
That last INT, was because of the bump at the LOS. Had it not been for that, Knox would have flew by Shields.

Knox had about 1/2 a step on him but buck/aikman say that shields is 1 of the fastest guys in the league so...I dunno. One thing's for certain though, If this were our secondary, that would've either been a walk-in TD as Jackson would've fell down @ the LOS trying to bump or Quinn/Jackson would've just gotten run by.

Mr teX
01-23-2011, 03:40 PM
Yeah it was a great athletic play to get the pick, but Cutler should of never thrown the ball....the dude was covered. Jay just doesn't care, he'll still throw the ball. He's turned his WRs into DBs out there.

VY, Leinart & Cutler...That vaunted qb class is shaping up to be a joke right now.

JB
01-23-2011, 03:42 PM
Yeah it was a great athletic play to get the pick, but Cutler should of never thrown the ball....the dude was covered. Jay just doesn't care, he'll still throw the ball. He's turned his WRs into DBs out there.

That's the Martz offense.

rush2112mn
01-23-2011, 03:43 PM
Cutler has knee problems and bloody elbow going into halftime....

Showtime100
01-23-2011, 03:44 PM
Cutler has knee problems and bloody elbow going into halftime....

I heard his fingernails are dirty too. He's done. :D

JB
01-23-2011, 03:49 PM
Rodgers is having no problem with the tampa 2 zone D

TexanSam
01-23-2011, 03:53 PM
Bad news for Bears fans. Todd Collins has thrown 5 INTs in 27 pass attempts this year

Honoring Earl 34
01-23-2011, 03:57 PM
Cutler has knee problems and bloody elbow going into halftime....

In the words of IlliniJen ... he's a vajajay

Mr teX
01-23-2011, 04:03 PM
In other news, Peppers hasn't been much of a factor...he sucks & should be cut....:sarcasm:.....talking to you mario haters.

TexanSam
01-23-2011, 04:03 PM
Cutler is going to be blasted by the fans and media if he doesn't play. Unless it's something extremely severe, he should be out there. Your team is a playing for the friggin Super Bowl! Philip Rivers played with a torn ACL in the playoffs a few years ago. Suck it up.

Showtime100
01-23-2011, 04:03 PM
In the words of IlliniJen ... he's a vajajay

Yeah, I can't help but question his willingness, I mean ability to play right now. It seemed one of their coaches was asking the same question of him on the sidelines.

Showtime100
01-23-2011, 04:17 PM
Note to FOX: The movie industry called, they want their dramatic music score back. :gun: The dude that insists on that crap is getting fired for it someday.

Carr Bombed
01-23-2011, 04:27 PM
Cutler is going to be blasted by the fans and media if he doesn't play. Unless it's something extremely severe, he should be out there. Your team is a playing for the friggin Super Bowl! Philip Rivers played with a torn ACL in the playoffs a few years ago. Suck it up.

Tom Brady played with a stress fracture in his foot during the season and playoffs. Brett Favre played with a broke everything.

Rick Reilly is right...Jay Cutler doesn't care.

4Texans
01-23-2011, 04:30 PM
Go Bears! Haine can really make a name for
Himself in this game. A Colorado State player too.

rush2112mn
01-23-2011, 04:32 PM
Collins and Cutler both out now.....3rd stinger just got a td......go figure.....
thanks to their running game.....

Ryan
01-23-2011, 04:32 PM
I think we found our new 3rd string QB for next year. Colorado State.

4Texans
01-23-2011, 04:34 PM
Rogers felt that for sure!

Showtime100
01-23-2011, 04:34 PM
Cutler is going to be blasted by the fans and media if he doesn't play. Unless it's something extremely severe, he should be out there. Your team is a playing for the friggin Super Bowl! Philip Rivers played with a torn ACL in the playoffs a few years ago. Suck it up.

Tom Brady played with a stress fracture in his foot during the season and playoffs. Brett Favre played with a broke everything.

Rick Reilly is right...Jay Cutler doesn't care.

I agree with you both. Reminds me of a nickname from the Rockets back in the day....now just call him Jay Bearly Cares.

This game has gotten way interesting. Rodgers can't seem to drive another nail home. He seemed almost rattled that last drive, but I know better I think.

Carr Bombed
01-23-2011, 04:37 PM
Football is so soft today.

Pollardized
01-23-2011, 04:40 PM
Football is so soft today.

There could be a great Viagra marketing campaign behind that...

TexanSam
01-23-2011, 04:43 PM
Great field position here for the Packers. Get a FG at least to make it a two score game.

Carr Bombed
01-23-2011, 04:43 PM
Man Chicago's punter might be worse than Turk.

Mr teX
01-23-2011, 04:45 PM
Game sealing drive right here for Rodgers & GB..

TexanSam
01-23-2011, 04:48 PM
Game sealing drive right here for Rodgers & GB..

Packers took a play out of the Texans playbook there. 3rd and short and pass.

:kubepalm:

Carr Bombed
01-23-2011, 04:49 PM
Game sealing drive right here for Rodgers & GB..

...and they "Kubiaked" it up by getting too pass happy.

Carr Bombed
01-23-2011, 04:49 PM
Packers took a play out of the Texans playbook there. 3rd and short and pass.

:kubepalm:

LOL, glad I wasn't the only one thinking that.

Mr teX
01-23-2011, 04:51 PM
well, they've already been stuffed twice on 3rd & short..can't fault them for trying something different there.

JB
01-23-2011, 04:52 PM
Td bj raji!

edit: pick 6

Carr Bombed
01-23-2011, 04:53 PM
LOL one of the best things in football......the fat man TD dance. :spit:

Showtime100
01-23-2011, 04:53 PM
I don't know, on an earlier 3rd and 1 got stuffed on a run. Later on another 3rd and 1 they passed and got a pass interference for 23 yards. With Starks getting little on most short yardage situations I can't blame them, especially with Rodgers back there.

Wow. Boom goes the dynamite on Chicago. :turtle:

Mr teX
01-23-2011, 04:54 PM
big chop with the macarena in the end zone!!!

TexanSam
01-23-2011, 04:55 PM
Best TD celebration yet!

TexanSam
01-23-2011, 04:57 PM
Then Chicago scores. WTF Green Bay

MightyTExan
01-23-2011, 04:58 PM
http://i54.tinypic.com/4l5z4j.gif

Mr teX
01-23-2011, 04:58 PM
That was a top 5 cb getting beat right there by a 3rd stringer..it happens folks.

Carr Bombed
01-23-2011, 04:58 PM
Damn Chicago should've benched Cutler alot sooner.

Showtime100
01-23-2011, 04:59 PM
Screw the Seahawks "should they have made the playoffs or not," let's make the Jets and Steelers play two weeks from now instead.

:gun:

Carr Bombed
01-23-2011, 05:01 PM
Huge mistake going out of bounds there.

Carr Bombed
01-23-2011, 05:03 PM
I hope this goes to overtime, just so I can see how the new rules work out.

Mr teX
01-23-2011, 05:05 PM
This haine kid is really balling...someone desperate for a qb is gonna give up the farm for this kid if he leads them back.

Showtime100
01-23-2011, 05:06 PM
I'm pulling for the Pack but that was a b-a-d call on the grounding.

Carr Bombed
01-23-2011, 05:08 PM
I was pulling for the packers, but I like underdog stories so I hope this Haine kid can pull off the upset.

Showtime100
01-23-2011, 05:11 PM
I hope this goes to overtime, just so I can see how the new rules work out.

Lol, you just might get your wish. It's getting pretty serious!

Carr Bombed
01-23-2011, 05:14 PM
Ball game.

JB
01-23-2011, 05:14 PM
Over

Mr teX
01-23-2011, 05:14 PM
yeah, those db's are absolutely money when the ball is in the air..they'll have a field day against Sanchez.

Showtime100
01-23-2011, 05:15 PM
*Priceless*

Great job by Hanie. Last play notwithstanding.

Carr Bombed
01-23-2011, 05:15 PM
yeah, those db's are absolutely money when the ball is in the air..they'll have a field day against Sanchez.

You mean Roethlisberger.

Mr teX
01-23-2011, 05:17 PM
You mean Roethlisberger.

no..i think the jets will get the steelers....:whip:

Showtime100
01-23-2011, 05:18 PM
Cutler just bought himself a one-way ticket out of Chicago and into Oakland...lol.

Carr Bombed
01-23-2011, 05:20 PM
no..i think the jets will get the steelers....:whip:

We'll see, I just don't think Sanchez can handle the Steelers defense. I think it'll come down to who gets better QB play and I think Ben will put the Steelers over the top. Game starts in 10 minutes and it should be a good one. I think I'll go ahead and switch over to that thread.

Corrosion
01-23-2011, 05:27 PM
My player of the game is the GB punter (LoL) ... dude kept them pinned deep at almost every opportunity.

Mr teX
01-23-2011, 05:31 PM
My player of the game is the GB punter (LoL) ... dude kept them pinned deep at almost every opportunity.

Gotta be sam shields. Stopped a possible scoring drive at the end of the 1st half & sealed the game with another int. They are ridiculously solid back there..we need to hit them up for 1 of those cb's.

Carr Bombed
01-23-2011, 05:55 PM
edit

TheMatrix31
01-23-2011, 06:00 PM
Mike Martz's third down playcall was arguably worse than Chris Brown HB pass. Yeesh.

CretorFrigg
01-23-2011, 06:32 PM
Wow, I don't think Jay Cutler is as bad as you guys make him out to be. Yes, he had a bad game today, but he has dominated the latter part of this season. He didn't have good protection most of the game and was getting hit around. Cutler couldn't even step into most of his throws.

Carr Bombed
01-23-2011, 06:51 PM
Wow, I don't think Jay Cutler is as bad as you guys make him out to be. Yes, he had a bad game today, but he has dominated the latter part of this season. He didn't have good protection most of the game and was getting hit around. Cutler couldn't even step into most of his throws.

He has no discipline and makes some boneheaded decisions. Yes he played good over the second half, but he still had his "WTF" throws, some weeks he just had less "WTF" throws than others...it's the reason why his own fans can't completely trust him. He had room to step up on throws, but he's notorious to just keep back peddling and then throw off his back foot and it's not just the Packers game...he does that all the time. As soon as Haine came in, he was moving around and finding spaces to step into and complete passes.

Corrosion
01-23-2011, 07:18 PM
Wow, I don't think Jay Cutler is as bad as you guys make him out to be. Yes, he had a bad game today, but he has dominated the latter part of this season. He didn't have good protection most of the game and was getting hit around. Cutler couldn't even step into most of his throws.

He was outplayed by their emergency 3rd string QB ....

Wolf
01-23-2011, 07:20 PM
Jay Cutler is the Steve Francis of the NFL.. turnover, turnover, turnover.. windmill dunk (but hey, the dunk makes highlights)

(stole that line from LZ)

CretorFrigg
01-23-2011, 07:22 PM
He has no discipline and makes some boneheaded decisions. Yes he played good over the second half, but he still had his "WTF" throws, some weeks he just had less "WTF" throws than others...it's the reason why his own fans can't completely trust him. He had room to step up on throws, but he's notorious to just keep back peddling and then throw off his back foot and it's not just the Packers game...he does that all the time. As soon as Haine came in, he was moving around and finding spaces to step into and complete passes.

Everybody makes "WTF" throws at times. Cutler more so than others. But that's why he isn't regarded as an elite QB. But he's still in the upper 50% compared to other starting QBs around the league.

The problem with Cutler is that he always tries to force the ball to his receivers, which leads to a lot of interceptions. He needs to learn to throw the ball away. But that's what gunslingers do. Brett Favre has a lot of interceptions, but he's still regarded as a potential hall of famer.

It also doesn't help when you're in Mike Martz system which is notorious for being brutal for the QBs.

Carr Bombed
01-23-2011, 07:22 PM
Basically Jay Cutler is just a more consistent Rex Grossman with a stronger arm. They both do some horribly stupid crap though.

CretorFrigg
01-23-2011, 07:23 PM
He was outplayed by their emergency 3rd string QB ....

Sage Rosenfels has outplayed Matt Schaub before. But that doesn't make him the better QB. I remember when we were calling for Sage to start. That didn't happen, and now we're all glad Matt is the starter.

Thorn
01-23-2011, 07:27 PM
Sage Rosenfels has outplayed Matt Schaub before. But that doesn't make him the better QB. I remember when we were calling for Sage to start. That didn't happen, and now we're all glad Matt is the starter.

Hey I never.......yes I did.

Thorn :facepalm:

Carr Bombed
01-23-2011, 07:28 PM
Everybody makes "WTF" throws at times. Cutler more so than others. But that's why he isn't regarded as an elite QB. But he's still in the upper 50% compared to other starting QBs around the league.

The problem with Cutler is that he always tries to force the ball to his receivers, which leads to a lot of interceptions. He needs to learn to throw the ball away. But that's what gunslingers do. Brett Favre has a lot of interceptions, but he's still regarded as a potential hall of famer.

It also doesn't help when you're in Mike Martz system which is notorious for being brutal for the QBs.

That's the problem with Cutler and that's pretty much exactly what we've already said.

and Brett Favre got away with doing what he did, because during his prime he was throwing alot more TDs than INTs and when it came time to win the game, he would win it. You lost me with the Favre comparison....Cutler is no Favre. First of all if Cutler was anything like Favre he wouldn't of left the game. Favre carried his team and won games in his prime and when he was in his prime his teammates loved playing with him......while Cutler has that stupid ass pouty face on all the time. Not exactly revered in the locker room either.

Carr Bombed
01-23-2011, 07:30 PM
Sage Rosenfels has outplayed Matt Schaub before. But that doesn't make him the better QB. I remember when we were calling for Sage to start. That didn't happen, and now we're all glad Matt is the starter.

??? Nobody said Haine should start or is a better QB than Cutler.

CretorFrigg
01-23-2011, 07:32 PM
That's the problem with Cutler and that's pretty much exactly what we've already said.

and Brett Favre got away with doing what he did, because during his prime he was throwing alot more TDs than INTs and when it came time to win the game, he would win it. You lost me with the Favre comparison....Cutler is no Favre. First of all if Cutler was anything like Favre he wouldn't of left the game. Favre carried his team and won games in his prime and when he was in his prime his teammates loved playing with him......while Cutler has that stupid ass pouty face on all the time. Not exactly revered in the locker room either.

Check Cutler's stats. He has significantly more TD's than INTs. And that's including the experimental 2009 season when he was getting accustomed to Chicago.

You don't know what happened to Cutler's knee nor do you know him personally to say that he isn't revered in the locker room. We simply don't know what happened to his knee and can't call him out for that.

Mr teX
01-23-2011, 07:34 PM
Everybody makes "WTF" throws at times. Cutler more so than others. But that's why he isn't regarded as an elite QB. But he's still in the upper 50% compared to other starting QBs around the league.

The problem with Cutler is that he always tries to force the ball to his receivers, which leads to a lot of interceptions. He needs to learn to throw the ball away. But that's what gunslingers do. Brett Favre has a lot of interceptions, but he's still regarded as a potential hall of famer.

It also doesn't help when you're in Mike Martz system which is notorious for being brutal for the QBs.

Yeah, every qb makes boneheaded throws but he makes them far too much..+ any time you throw 20+ ints in a season & you're not a rookie or even a 2nd year player,you stink...period.

CretorFrigg
01-23-2011, 07:37 PM
Yeah, every qb makes boneheaded throws but he makes them far too much..+ any time you throw 20+ ints in a season & you're not a rookie or even a 2nd year player,you stink...period.

That was his first season in Chicago when he was getting accustomed to the coaches and the new scheme.

My point still stands: 104 TDs/79 INTs.

Carr Bombed
01-23-2011, 07:37 PM
Check Cutler's stats. He has significantly more TD's than INTs. And that's including the experimental 2009 season when he was getting accustomed to Chicago.

You don't know what happened to Cutler's knee nor do you know him personally to say that he isn't revered in the locker room. We simply don't know what happened to his knee and can't call him out for that.

If he doesn't have a torn ACL...I'm calling him out and we do know what his teammates think about him, because of the reports out of Denver. I'm sure if he moved to another team we'd here similar things come out of Chicago. He's a whiney ***** and I do know that, because we all watched him cry his way out of Denver. I done talking about the guy...it isn't worth my time.

Carr Bombed
01-23-2011, 07:38 PM
My point still stands: 104 TDs/79 INTs.

Umm..that's not really a great TD to INT ratio.

CretorFrigg
01-23-2011, 07:39 PM
Umm..that's not really a great TD to INT ratio.

That's taking into account when he was getting used to a new scheme in Chicago.

It's also not as bad as a lot of the people on the board was saying he is.

Carr Bombed
01-23-2011, 07:44 PM
That's taking into account when he was getting used to a new scheme in Chicago.

It's also not as bad as a lot of the people on the board was saying he is.

So Cutler can't get used to a new system without throwing a bazillion picks. That's not exactly a excuse.

Mr teX
01-23-2011, 07:50 PM
:texanbill:That's taking into account when he was getting used to a new scheme in Chicago.

It's also not as bad as a lot of the people on the board was saying he is.

You don't need a whole year to get acclimated to not throwing picks...that's part of being a good qb & making good decisions & that year he was extraordinarily terrible with bad decisions. He's really always been terrible with his decision making to be honest.

CretorFrigg
01-23-2011, 07:50 PM
If he doesn't have a torn ACL...I'm calling him out and we do know what his teammates think about him, because of the reports out of Denver. I'm sure if he moved to another team we'd here similar things come out of Chicago. He's a whiney ***** and I do know that, because we all watched him cry his way out of Denver. I done talking about the guy...it isn't worth my time.

What were his teammates supposed to say? "Yes, McDaniels is a control freak. I'm with Jay Cutler. Please cut me now."

Carr Bombed
01-23-2011, 08:02 PM
What were his teammates supposed to say? "Yes, McDaniels is a control freak. I'm with Jay Cutler. Please cut me now."

What are you talking about? LOL, his teammates comments had NOTHING to do with McDaniels as most were made when Shanahan was there. You need to go read the reports, because now you're just searching for excuses and grasping at straws.

There's a reason why everybody in the NFL is killing him on twitter right now, he's a notorious *******.

CretorFrigg
01-23-2011, 08:05 PM
What are you talking about? LOL, his teammates comments had NOTHING to do with McDaniels as most were made when Shanahan was there. You need to go read the reports, because now you're just searching for excuses and grasping at straws.

There's a reason why everybody in the NFL is killing him on twitter right now, he's a notorious *******.

Hm, I don't recall his teammates calling him out while Shanahan was there.

And yes, EVERYBODY knows he's an a-hole because we all know the media always portrays everybody correctly. :smiliepalm:

Mr teX
01-23-2011, 08:14 PM
Hm, I don't recall his teammates calling him out while Shanahan was there.

And yes, EVERYBODY knows he's an a-hole because we all know the media always portrays everybody correctly. :smiliepalm:
LOL, He's just got that a-hole look to be honest..
http://assets.espn.go.com/media/motion/2009/0806/dm_090806_nfl_cutler_sunday_convo.jpg

Carr Bombed
01-23-2011, 08:16 PM
Hm, I don't recall his teammates calling him out while Shanahan was there.

John Lynch and Elway....look it up

And yes, EVERYBODY knows he's an a-hole because we all know the media always portrays everybody correctly. :smiliepalm:

His former teammates don't work for the media and there's a reason why the media has that opinion of him....they have sources and stuff leaks out.

CretorFrigg
01-23-2011, 08:20 PM
John Lynch and Elway....look it up

Here's a quote from John Lynch:

"I like Jay, he's a friend of mine," Lynch said. "He had some growing up to do, probably still has some growing up to do. But in saying that, I think the Broncos erred in letting him go.

"This is a guy, in my mind, that's a once-in-every-15-year-type talent. He's got that kind of skill. I think he'll grow into the other things. I sometimes think during this whole ordeal, they tried to paint him as a bad guy, but he's not a bad guy at all. He's got some growing up to do, but hopefully he learned something from this whole ordeal and offseason."

Lynch said part of that maturation process for the 26-year-old Cutler is opening up.

Source: http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/news/story?id=4336504

Carr Bombed
01-23-2011, 08:48 PM
How did the broncos error in letting him go....he cried his way out of town? He wouldn't return ANY of their phone calls and became a malcontent.

CretorFrigg
01-23-2011, 09:28 PM
How did the broncos error in letting him go....he cried his way out of town? He wouldn't return ANY of their phone calls and became a malcontent.

:confused:

You asked me to look up quotes from John Lynch, so I did. You were talking about how his teammates don't revere him.