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Wolf
01-13-2011, 06:20 PM
There was something very different about the press conference yesterday at Reliant Stadium when new defensive coordinator Wade Phillips and Gary Kubiak met with local media.

I wasn't there but I've read the transcript and watched the video.

The difference was we had a coach at the podium speaking (from experience) with authority and confidence.

Yeah, the delivery was 'aw shucks,' (to re-coin an already worn out phrase) but the content seemed more believable than a Frank Bush or Richard Smith introductory presser.



We may not have the best head coach in the league, but we have two really good coordinators in Phillips and Kubiak.

Let's hope it works




http://www.examiner.com/houston-texans-in-houston/wade-phillips-confidence-a-breath-of-fresh-air

DBCooper
01-13-2011, 08:50 PM
Wade may not be a good head coach, but he's a hell of a Defensive Coordinator!

Now we have a great Offensive Coordinator in Kubiak and DC in Wade, we just need a head coach....................

Thorn
01-13-2011, 08:52 PM
We may not have the best head coach in the league, but we have two really good coordinators in Phillips and Kubiak.

Quote of the week, and worth repeating. :lol:

GP
01-13-2011, 09:31 PM
http://www.examiner.com/houston-texans-in-houston/wade-phillips-confidence-a-breath-of-fresh-air

Rep your way.

Reading aj's stuff is like a breath of fresh air every time he posts something.

Every day. I'm beginning to think Wade Phillips as HC isn't such a bad outcome as I had once thought. If it comes down to that.

And it makes me feel that maybe THAT is what McNair is doing: Basically hiring a guy who can push Gary Kubiak to new heights or completely off the edge of that cliff...according to how Kubiak chooses to respond to the challenge.

Texan_Bill
01-13-2011, 09:51 PM
Wade may not be a good head coach, but he's a hell of a Defensive Coordinator!

Now we have a great Offensive Coordinator in Kubiak and DC in Wade, we just need a head coach....................

:hmmm:

Not a very good head coach? :thinking: While I'm not disagreeing with your assertion, I wonder about his winning record % as a head coach.. Too much revisionist history, maybe??... Just sayin'!!

Jackie Chiles
01-14-2011, 12:49 AM
Nice article, only one thing i can't wrap my head around.

"Wade has a tough challenge ahead of him and a long way to go to resurrect the Texans defense, so expecting a major turnaround in a year might be wishful thinking."

Resurrect implies it was at one point living does it not?

Malloy
01-14-2011, 01:50 AM
Rep your way.

Reading aj's stuff is like a breath of fresh air every time he posts something.

Every day. I'm beginning to think Wade Phillips as HC isn't such a bad outcome as I had once thought. If it comes down to that.
And it makes me feel that maybe THAT is what McNair is doing: Basically hiring a guy who can push Gary Kubiak to new heights or completely off the edge of that cliff...according to how Kubiak chooses to respond to the challenge.

That's my take on it as well. In case we stink it up next year on offense, but out D shows clear signs of improving, I could see Kubiak removed and Wade promoted. It would provide the continuality that McNair so cherishes.

Hookem Horns
01-14-2011, 03:21 AM
I agree that the Texans now have two outstanding coodinators. The only piece missing is a solid head coach. We'll see if it is possible for a NFL team to win with that scenario.

Imagine Cowher as HC with Kubiak and Phillips as coodinators. That would never happen of course.

Every day. I'm beginning to think Wade Phillips as HC isn't such a bad outcome as I had once thought. If it comes down to that.


The following teams had the same line of thought at one time ... Denver Broncos, Buffalo Bills, Atlanta Falcons, and Dallas Cowboys. Fail, Fail, Fail, and Fail. Fail me once shame on you, fail me twice shame on me, fail me 4 times ... OK, we are talking Bob McNair here, it could happen.

GP
01-14-2011, 08:58 AM
The following teams had the same line of thought at one time ... Denver Broncos, Buffalo Bills, Atlanta Falcons, and Dallas Cowboys. Fail, Fail, Fail, and Fail. Fail me once shame on you, fail me twice shame on me, fail me 4 times ... OK, we are talking Bob McNair here, it could happen.

Yeah, but you have to factor in how friggin' worn down I am (by all of this).

Being a fan of this team is like watching the movie The Road, over and over again without ceasing. Have you seen that film? That's Texans fans life right there.

I can now actually entertain the idea of pulling the trigger on Wade as HC.

Dread-Head
01-14-2011, 09:04 AM
Wade may not be a good head coach, but he's a hell of a Defensive Coordinator!

Now we have a great Offensive Coordinator in Kubiak and DC in Wade, we just need a head coach....................


Kind of reminds me of a certain team in 1985 which had a head coach/offensive co-ordinator who knew what he was doing and a defensive co-ordinator who sent his men on the field as if they were going to war. The two men HATED each other with a passion, *BUT working both sides of the coin they lost ONE game that season and went on to win a Superbowl. :trophy:
I'm just sayin...

*The 'but' is large because I like big 'buts' and I can not lie...some other brothas can deny, but when round things in your face with an itty bitty waist you get sprung!

BigBull17
01-14-2011, 09:09 AM
Rep your way.

Reading aj's stuff is like a breath of fresh air every time he posts something.

Every day. I'm beginning to think Wade Phillips as HC isn't such a bad outcome as I had once thought. If it comes down to that.

And it makes me feel that maybe THAT is what McNair is doing: Basically hiring a guy who can push Gary Kubiak to new heights or completely off the edge of that cliff...according to how Kubiak chooses to respond to the challenge.

I'm not saying Wade was great in Dallas, but it sure as hell seems Garrett sabotaged him last year. Once he got the job, Garrett pounded the rock a whole lot. JJ didn't really stop it because Garret is his little protege.

GP
01-14-2011, 09:10 AM
Kind of reminds me of a certain team in 1985 which had a head coach/offensive co-ordinator who knew what he was doing and a defensive co-ordinator who sent his men on the field as if they were going to war. The two men HATED each other with a passion, *BUT working both sides of the coin they lost ONE game that season and went on to win a Superbowl. :trophy:
I'm just sayin...

*The 'but' is large because I like big 'buts' and I can not lie...some other brothas can deny, but when round things in your face with an itty bitty waist you get sprung!

Let's slow down before drawing THOSE comparisons, even in theory.

Till the break. Of. Dawn.

Dread-Head
01-14-2011, 09:12 AM
Let's slow down before drawing THOSE comparisons, even in theory.

Till the break. Of. Dawn.

I'm not sayin'....I'm just sayin'...

...babygotitgoingon!

GP
01-14-2011, 09:12 AM
I'm not saying Wade was great in Dallas, but it sure as hell seems Garrett sabotaged him last year. Once he got the job, Garrett pounded the rock a whole lot. JJ didn't really stop it because Garret is his little protege.

The scuttlebutt back when Garrett was hired was that he was being groomed for the job.

Then the Cowboys start tanking, and fans are all over it--Even saying Garrett is to blame, as well.

Then, like you said, they start playing like world beaters out there for Garrett as HC. LOL. Yeah, it does seem plausible that he was sandbagging it a bit.

Ole Miss Texan
01-14-2011, 09:13 AM
I'm really excited about Phillips as our DC. I'm of the thinking that Wade is HC of the Defense like many of you and that Kubiak/Smith/McNair should and has/will hand the reigns over to Wade on that side of the ball. I also like what Kubiak has done on the Offensive side and think these two guys and mesh together well and build a really good team.

But I'm kind of confused by some comments. "Kubiak is a good OC." What I hear from lot of people are the complaints about play calling, poor time management, etc. If Kubiak essentially runs the offense right now, how is that going to change if he's the "OC"? I thought we presumed he already was, more or less.

What I do see there being a difference in are personnel pick ups: draft, free agency, etc. I truly want to believe that Kubiak et al will seriously consider Wade's input on a prospect's talent but with Kubiak as HC a lot will still fall under him, as will staff additions.

In any event, I'm more excited about our coaching situation now than I ever have been. :goodluck:

GP
01-14-2011, 09:25 AM
But I'm kind of confused by some comments. "Kubiak is a good OC." What I hear from lot of people are the complaints about play calling, poor time management, etc. If Kubiak essentially runs the offense right now, how is that going to change if he's the "OC"? I thought we presumed he already was, more or less.

I have nothing bad to say about the offense that Kubiak has created here. For that, he receives 50 gold stars from this fan.

My problem with him stems from what I consider to be a lack of ability to detach from the playcalling duties on game day, as well as what I think is a lack of week-to-week tweaking of the game plan he builds for each Sunday's opponent.

I truly believe that Kubiak is so confident in his system and in his players on offense who run that system, that he thinks his system and his players can beat opponents without having to do any extra work on tweaking the game plan. And the emergence of Arian Foster has only furthered, IMO, this sort of arrogance within Kubiak's mindset.

So it leaves him scrambling all game long, trying to figure out how to adjust to what the opposing defense is doing, and he finds the answer in the second half of games. Instead of having a few backup plans in his back pocket, it appears he's going into each game with a casual, laid back attitude and approach to the game...then the fit hits the shan and we see what happens from there on out.

I just don't think he wants to be the guy I envision a head coach to be: The guy watching the action on the field, evaluating what his players are doing right and what they are doing wrong, watching for patterns on the field and thinking of ways to exploit them, actively coaching up his guys as much as he can. Instead, it seems like he's far away and consumed by playcalling.

Just my two cents.

DBCooper
01-14-2011, 09:27 AM
:hmmm:

Not a very good head coach? :thinking: While I'm not disagreeing with your assertion, I wonder about his winning record % as a head coach.. Too much revisionist history, maybe??... Just sayin'!!

Something happens to his players after a while, when he's head coach they just stop playing for him like they should.

I like the guy as a coach myself.

Ole Miss Texan
01-14-2011, 10:12 AM
I have nothing bad to say about the offense that Kubiak has created here. For that, he receives 50 gold stars from this fan.

My problem with him stems from what I consider to be a lack of ability to detach from the playcalling duties on game day, as well as what I think is a lack of week-to-week tweaking of the game plan he builds for each Sunday's opponent.

I truly believe that Kubiak is so confident in his system and in his players on offense who run that system, that he thinks his system and his players can beat opponents without having to do any extra work on tweaking the game plan. And the emergence of Arian Foster has only furthered, IMO, this sort of arrogance within Kubiak's mindset.

So it leaves him scrambling all game long, trying to figure out how to adjust to what the opposing defense is doing, and he finds the answer in the second half of games. Instead of having a few backup plans in his back pocket, it appears he's going into each game with a casual, laid back attitude and approach to the game...then the fit hits the shan and we see what happens from there on out.

I just don't think he wants to be the guy I envision a head coach to be: The guy watching the action on the field, evaluating what his players are doing right and what they are doing wrong, watching for patterns on the field and thinking of ways to exploit them, actively coaching up his guys as much as he can. Instead, it seems like he's far away and consumed by playcalling.

Just my two cents.

That's my point though. People say they want him as an OC, Wade as the DC and a new guy as HC. With the addition of Wade, we're presuming Kubiak will be focusing substantially more on Offense and some STs. So Kubiak won't be spending near as much time trying to patchwork an awful Defense, Wade will. Kubiak will be much more focused on offense (we're assuming). If he's already calling the plays, consumed by them even... I don't see that changing as he spends less time with the D. So how will your (and pretty much everybody's) concerns change? I don't think they will. The only thing I see is Kubiak as OC doing is the exact same thing he is now... with the HC occasionally (possibly) saying No.

I don't disagree with yall one bit, I think that'd be awesome. I just don't think his "issues" on playcalling, gameplanning, time management, all the other faults will disappear. Unless, he was spending so much time with the Defense he hadn't had the time to properly prepare the offense like he would want. Maybe with Kubiak as HC of the Offense and Wade as HC of the Defense, Kubes can spend more time gameplanning the O's stategy? Maybe that's a way he can improve on some of his deficiencies.

Dread-Head
01-14-2011, 10:23 AM
I agree that the Texans now have two outstanding coodinators. The only piece missing is a solid head coach. We'll see if it is possible for a NFL team to win with that scenario.

Imagine Cowher as HC with Kubiak and Phillips as coodinators. That would never happen of course.



The following teams had the same line of thought at one time ... Denver Broncos, Buffalo Bills, Atlanta Falcons, and Dallas Cowboys. Fail, Fail, Fail, and Fail. Fail me once shame on you, fail me twice shame on me, fail me 4 times ... OK, we are talking Bob McNair here, it could happen.

That would be too awesome to even contemplate.

El Tejano
01-14-2011, 11:00 AM
Rep your way.

Reading aj's stuff is like a breath of fresh air every time he posts something.

Every day. I'm beginning to think Wade Phillips as HC isn't such a bad outcome as I had once thought. If it comes down to that.

And it makes me feel that maybe THAT is what McNair is doing: Basically hiring a guy who can push Gary Kubiak to new heights or completely off the edge of that cliff...according to how Kubiak chooses to respond to the challenge.

Don't do that man. That is the same thing that Denver and Buffalo all thought and eventually it led to their demise. He gave them this false hope that he could lead their team by having such success as a DC. He's just not a head coach. Now you are thinking like Mcnair and that can't be good.

Of course Buffalo and Denver also had a tradition of winning before Wade came along and their definition of not getting it done was playoffs but no Superbowl and our definition of not getting it done is no playoffs.

Doppelganger
01-14-2011, 11:27 AM
I agree that the Texans now have two outstanding coodinators. The only piece missing is a solid head coach. We'll see if it is possible for a NFL team to win with that scenario.

Imagine Cowher as HC with Kubiak and Phillips as coodinators. That would never happen of course.



The following teams had the same line of thought at one time ... Denver Broncos, Buffalo Bills, Atlanta Falcons, and Dallas Cowboys. Fail, Fail, Fail, and Fail. Fail me once shame on you, fail me twice shame on me, fail me 4 times ... OK, we are talking Bob McNair here, it could happen.

I will address Denver, Buffalo, and Dallas. I will not address Atlanta since he was only there for 3 games.

Denver Broncos: 93: 9-7 playoffs
94: 7-9 no playoffs

Buffalo Bills: 98: 10-6 playoffs
99: 11-5 playoffs
00: 8-8 no playoffs

Dallas: Cowboys: 07: 13-3 playoffs
08: 9-7 no playoffs
09: 11-5 playoffs
10: 1-7fired in midseason

If you look at this list, he was the head coach for 8 full seasons, a half season, and then a three game stint with NO in '85(1-2) and a 3 game stint in Atl(2-1). In those 8.5 seasons, a team where Wade was the head coach went to the playoffs 5 of 8 times. In addition, outside of what happened this year(and we don't know how many wins the team would have had total) Wade's worst year was 7-9. Wade's team have won 10+ games 4 out of 8.5 times.

Kubiak has led the Texans to 0 playoff appearances in 5 years. He has never been a head coach elsewhere. Capers led the Carolina Panthers to the playoffs in '96(12-4 record) and never led another team to the playoffs as a head coach. Wade 4 more has playoff appearances than Kubiak and Capers combined.

He may not do a lot once he gets there, but he gets a team to the playoffs. He is like the defensive version of Marty Schotenheimer.

tedr
01-14-2011, 11:55 AM
I will address Denver, Buffalo, and Dallas. I will not address Atlanta since he was only there for 3 games.

Denver Broncos: 93: 9-7 playoffs
94: 7-9 no playoffs

Buffalo Bills: 98: 10-6 playoffs
99: 11-5 playoffs
00: 8-8 no playoffs

Dallas: Cowboys: 07: 13-3 playoffs
08: 9-7 no playoffs
09: 11-5 playoffs
10: 1-7fired in midseason

If you look at this list, he was the head coach for 8 full seasons, a half season, and then a three game stint with NO in '85(1-2) and a 3 game stint in Atl(2-1). In those 8.5 seasons, a team where Wade was the head coach went to the playoffs 5 of 8 times. In addition, outside of what happened this year(and we don't know how many wins the team would have had total) Wade's worst year was 7-9. Wade's team have won 10+ games 4 out of 8.5 times.

Kubiak has led the Texans to 0 playoff appearances in 5 years. He has never been a head coach elsewhere. Capers led the Carolina Panthers to the playoffs in '96(12-4 record) and never led another team to the playoffs as a head coach. Wade 4 more has playoff appearances than Kubiak and Capers combined.

He may not do a lot once he gets there, but he gets a team to the playoffs. He is like the defensive version of Marty Schotenheimer.

Good points. I think Wade gets a bad rap as far as being a head coach. Don't get me wrong, had the Texans fired Kubiak, Wade would not have been on my short list. However, his overall record is pretty good, and he did win a playoff game last year for the Cowboys. And, had it not been for the "Music City Miracle," he'd have at least two playoff wins. Ifs and buts, though.

If Gary gets canned next year during the season, there would be a lot worse things to happen than Wade taking over. Would I want him long-term? Don't know, but he has won where he's been.

GP
01-14-2011, 03:15 PM
Don't do that man...He's just not a head coach. Now you are thinking like Mcnair and that can't be good.

You have me all paranoid now. Thank you for the intervention.

:takes3showers:

Joe Texan
01-14-2011, 03:22 PM
Yeah, but you have to factor in how friggin' worn down I am (by all of this).

Being a fan of this team is like watching the movie The Road, over and over again without ceasing. Have you seen that film? That's Texans fans life right there.

I can now actually entertain the idea of pulling the trigger on Wade as HC.

Now I got to go rent it

Hookem Horns
01-14-2011, 04:54 PM
And, had it not been for the "Music City Miracle," he'd have at least two playoff wins. Ifs and buts, though.



We call that the "Immaculate Deception" around here. Wychek will go down as the only guy in NFL history with a TD pass on a kickoff return.

http://assets.nydailynews.com/img/2010/01/06/tl_nfl_titans_bills.jpg

Hervoyel
01-15-2011, 05:53 PM
Wade Phillips has basically lost every single team he's ever led. The Texans future interim head coach may be a heck of a defensive coordinator but he's a poor head coach. His record is padded by the fact that he's inherited a talented team and "led" it to being lousy on more than one occaission. Wade's had winning seasons for the same basic reason that Barry Switzer has a Super Bowl ring. Sheer dumb luck.

Our problem will be that once he replaces Kubiak it will take Bob McNair just as long to figure out that Wade can't do it as it will have for him to figure out that Gary can't do it.

FirstTexansFan
01-15-2011, 05:55 PM
Wade Phillips has basically lost every single team he's ever led. The Texans future interim head coach may be a heck of a defensive coordinator but he's a poor head coach. His record is padded by the fact that he's inherited a talented team and "led" it to being lousy on more than one occaission. Wade's had winning seasons for the same basic reason that Barry Switzer has a Super Bowl ring. Sheer dumb luck.

Our problem will be that once he replaces Kubiak it will take Bob McNair just as long to figure out that Wade can't do it as it will have for him to figure out that Gary can't do it.

Well as much as I hope you are wrong, I'm afraid you are right.

JB
01-15-2011, 06:04 PM
Wade Phillips has basically lost every single team he's ever led. The Texans future interim head coach may be a heck of a defensive coordinator but he's a poor head coach. His record is padded by the fact that he's inherited a talented team and "led" it to being lousy on more than one occaission. Wade's had winning seasons for the same basic reason that Barry Switzer has a Super Bowl ring. Sheer dumb luck.

Our problem will be that once he replaces Kubiak it will take Bob McNair just as long to figure out that Wade can't do it as it will have for him to figure out that Gary can't do it.

Well, if we have to have reality, I guess the off-season is the time for it...

GP
01-16-2011, 01:12 PM
Now I got to go rent it

You should, Joe. It's awesome. You would enjoy it a lot.

Little does Joe know...it's a movie set in post-apocalyptic America. A father and son are traveling alone, eating leaves and twigs, evading scoundrel thugs who are cannibals, and every five minutes features some sort of dialogue between the father and son about suicide. The whole movie is basically about how a constant state of despair can lead to an aloof, "normal" stance on taking your own life. It was so depressing, I stopped watching it about a 1/4th of the way through. Uggghhh...Yeah, Joe, go watch it and it will be a depiction of being a Texans fan right now. Of course, I am using extreme hyperbole here. But I digress...gotta' find the humor in it all, I suppose.

GP
01-16-2011, 01:20 PM
Wade Phillips has basically lost every single team he's ever led. The Texans future interim head coach may be a heck of a defensive coordinator but he's a poor head coach. His record is padded by the fact that he's inherited a talented team and "led" it to being lousy on more than one occaission. Wade's had winning seasons for the same basic reason that Barry Switzer has a Super Bowl ring. Sheer dumb luck.

Our problem will be that once he replaces Kubiak it will take Bob McNair just as long to figure out that Wade can't do it as it will have for him to figure out that Gary can't do it.

It's reverse psychology. Herv.

Bob knows all of this, see, and so he specifically hired Wade as d-coord so that he would take over a BAD team. The inverse will happen, and Wade will win here.

I'm sure these are the sorts of high-level discussions that are kicked around in the Bob McNair Houston Texans meetings when big decisions have to be made. LOL. I kid, I kid, so nobody go screaming at me for crying out loud. Geez.

TEXANRED
01-16-2011, 10:34 PM
Wade Phillips has basically lost every single team he's ever led. The Texans future interim head coach may be a heck of a defensive coordinator but he's a poor head coach. His record is padded by the fact that he's inherited a talented team and "led" it to being lousy on more than one occaission. Wade's had winning seasons for the same basic reason that Barry Switzer has a Super Bowl ring. Sheer dumb luck.

Our problem will be that once he replaces Kubiak it will take Bob McNair just as long to figure out that Wade can't do it as it will have for him to figure out that Gary can't do it.

Where do you get he lost his teams? So a guy who made Doug Flutie relevant and made Rob Johnson look like he had talent, is a horrible coach? Not to mention he had a winning record.

Denver? 2 seasons 1 with a playoff appearance. He was not there long enough to judge his head coaching or his drafting.

Then he goes to Dallas and even wins them a playoff game. Nobody wins in Dallas. Johnson did only cus of the Walker deal. But after that who else? The retard running the Zoo doesn't know the first thing about football.

Phillips has never been in the right organization that knew anything about football but Phillips still found a way to win.

axman40
01-16-2011, 10:47 PM
Bob McNair presents :
The Odd Couple
:kubepalm::wadepalm:

Lucky
01-16-2011, 10:57 PM
Phillips has never been in the right organization that knew anything about football....
Then Wade should feel right at home.

TEXANRED
01-16-2011, 11:26 PM
Then Wade should feel right at home.

I disagree. I think the fact that we didn't fire Kubiak was a good move. Offense is clicking and at the top of it's game. Running, passing, blocking. Fire Kubiak and you are starting completely over. New line, different back, and I really don't think Schaub would be a good QB in any other system.

Defense has talent and needed a coach to put it together.

Keeping Kubiak was the best option.

Lucky
01-17-2011, 06:41 AM
Running, passing, blocking. Fire Kubiak and you are starting completely over. New line, different back, and I really don't think Schaub would be a good QB in any other system.
So these guys would forget how to run, block, catch, or tie their cleats without Gary Kubiak? No other coach would want the offensive line, Arian Foster, or Matt Schaub?

I am going to disagree with that assessment.

FirstTexansFan
01-17-2011, 07:41 AM
So these guys would forget how to run, block, catch, or tie their cleats without Gary Kubiak? No other coach would want the offensive line, Arian Foster, or Matt Schaub?

I am going to disagree with that assessment.

They can do these things? What game did this occur? :)

TEXANRED
01-17-2011, 01:44 PM
So these guys would forget how to run, block, catch, or tie their cleats without Gary Kubiak? No other coach would want the offensive line, Arian Foster, or Matt Schaub?

I am going to disagree with that assessment.

I think certain players are built or suited for certain schemes. Like Myers couldn't start or play for a NYJ or a Steelers club. Pitts was a good Guard in the Capers system but, IMO, struggled in the zone scheme and had problems getting to the next level. Brown, and the argument could go either way, is suited more for the zone blocking and again not really a NYJ or Steeler.

Schaub? I am not much of a fan of his. Yeah I know he puts up numbers but to me he is just another McNabb or even a Chris Chandler. Sure he puts up numbers but does he win or make plays when it counts? Four years in and I say no he can't and only starts b/c Kubiak picked him. We pitched an O'fer in prime time this year and got stomped by the Cowboys. And, IMO, AJ does for Schaub what Moss did for Culpepper.

I hope Foster, like AJ is the real deal and not just a ZBS running back.

And it's the exact same discussion we are having now about the defense. Who fits what and were do they go and how are we going to use them.

Texecutioner
01-18-2011, 02:22 AM
Wade Phillips has basically lost every single team he's ever led. The Texans future interim head coach may be a heck of a defensive coordinator but he's a poor head coach. His record is padded by the fact that he's inherited a talented team and "led" it to being lousy on more than one occaission. Wade's had winning seasons for the same basic reason that Barry Switzer has a Super Bowl ring. Sheer dumb luck.

Our problem will be that once he replaces Kubiak it will take Bob McNair just as long to figure out that Wade can't do it as it will have for him to figure out that Gary can't do it.

How people actually think Wade is a good fit here is crazy Herv. He's just another Kubes on the defensive side of the ball where he loses his players from a lack of focus and discipline eventually and his soft demeanor rubs off on his players. He's a great DC on a team with a strong willed HC in place where discipline, focus, and accountability aren't issues and where those are strengths on the team. He's a terrible hire here and how well he does won't really matter when he'll lose these players soon enough along with Kubes on the offensive side of the ball. Rob Ryan or some other high energy and hard nosed DC would have been a much better hire since he's edgy hard nosed and demands more accountability, but he's to "gritty" for Bob Mcnair. We need to have the soft spoken classy sweethearts over in Texanville in Wade and Kubes. This is literally the perfect storm of what Bob wants in his coaching staff. If only Vermeil were still around to be the GM Mcnair would literally hurt himself in excitement.

Double Barrel
01-18-2011, 11:24 AM
Wade Phillips' confidence a breath of fresh air

I understand (and appreciate) AJ's perspective, but my take is that "breath of fresh air" is a relative term. A fart would be fresh air to a person choking from asphyxiation.

HOU-TEX
01-18-2011, 11:30 AM
I understand (and appreciate) AJ's perspective, but my take is that "breath of fresh air" is a relative term. A fart would be fresh air to a person choking from asphyxiation.

Unless it was one of mine from last night.

HOU-TEX + Steak = Paint peeling deadly gases

drs23
01-18-2011, 11:51 AM
Unless it was one of mine from last night.

HOU-TEX + Steak = Paint peeling deadly gases

You didn't save one for one of your famous Dutch Ovens?? :lol: :kitten:

gary
01-18-2011, 11:59 AM
If the Texans fire one good ol boy to hire another good ol boy in Phillips I'll be pissed.

HOU-TEX
01-18-2011, 12:06 PM
You didn't save one for one of your famous Dutch Ovens?? :lol: :kitten:

Oh yeah, the wife gave me a nice elbow to the rib cage during the night. I'm sure I'll get a scolding this evening

Hervoyel
01-19-2011, 01:24 PM
Oh yeah, the wife gave me a nice elbow to the rib cage during the night. I'm sure I'll get a scolding this evening

Just tell her that was Wade on his way into town.

:wadepalm:

J_R
01-21-2011, 08:15 PM
Sentinel Sports Now (http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/sports-sentinel-sports-now/2011/01/21/wade-phillips-picks-green-bay-packers-as-super-bowl-champions/) caught up with Wade Phillips for a chat about a variety of football topics, including Michael Vick, Cam Newton and, of course, his thoughts on whether or not he will ever be a head coach in the NFL again.

Howís your dad doing?

My dad [retired NFL coach Bum Phillips] is doing great. Heís still ranching and he drives his tractor everyday, heís 87-years-old. Heís out on his ranch in Texas and of course heís watching a lot of football games every week, especially the games Iím coaching. Now that Iím in Houston he has an opportunity to come down to Houston and see us play.

How did you get involved with the Shrine Bowl?

Actually [Shrine Game Executive Director] Harold Richardson and I coached together, in fact I was the best man in Haroldís wedding. Weíve been friends for a long, long time. Of course, I was out and he called me up and said he would you like to do this Shrine game?
I knew about the Shriners a little bit because you see them on T.V. and the parades and so forth, but for children and the childrenís hospital itís just amazing. When he told me about that, I was really glad to do it.

Out of the kids youíve been working with so far, has anyone stood out and impressed you?

Well, of course itís practice, but we have some good looking players here. Iím particularly impressed with all three quarterbacks we have. I think all of them are talented and have shown a lot of leadership in practice. The kid from Idaho, Nathan Enderle, has looked real good and has a real sharp arm. Jerrod Johnson, the kid from A&M is an outstanding athlete, Scott Tolzien is a really smart quarterback from the University of Wisconsin. So those kids have really impressed me.

The NFL draft is coming up soon, what is going to be the hot button position this year?

You know, I hadnít gotten into the draft yet as far as whatís out there. I know there are a lot of juniors that have declared for the draft. Thereís always offensive tackles, cornerbacks are always hard to find. I think corners and offensive left tackles are always especially a high priority for any team.

What is your thought on the NFL creating a rule that would punish agents for early contact?

I really donít know the answer to that. I know theyíre talking about a lot of that and certainly there is concern for everybody because they want to keep the image of the college game pristine. You hate the see the player punished. I donít know the answer particularly, I hope theyíre working on an answer.

Speaking of that, what were your thoughts on the Cam Newton controversy this season?

I didnít follow that much. I know heís a really outstanding player, I saw him play a few times and he certainly deserved the Heisman Trophy. I mean the guy was unbelievable as a player. But I donít know the particulars about it and really donít want to comment on it.

OK. Youíre with the Houston Texans now and Vince Young is available now. Could you see a situation where Vince Young could end up with the Texans?

Well, Iím sure heís going to be with a team. Somebodyís gonna have him next year, heís certainly a talented player. He can make a difference. I donít know which team heíll be with, but heís certainly a talented player.

But could you see him with the Texans?

Well I think he could be with any team. Heís talented enough and shown in his play enough, and won enough gamesÖI think itíd be up to him as to who he wants to go with rather than somebody else picking him.

What are your thoughts on the NFC playoffs, what team do you see coming out of there this weekend?

Well, I think Green Bay is playing better than anybody Iíve seen. But I picked New Orleans over Seattle (laughing) nobody knows for sure.

What about the Super Bowl? Who is your pick?

I think that Green Bay is the team. If I had to pick, thatís who Iíd pick overall. They look like theyíre playing the best of any team.

Now that Tom Brady and Michael Vick are both out, do you think that changes the mindset on the MVP race?

I donít know, I like Mike Vick myself. He just had such a great year and I got to coach him in Atlanta so Iím partial to him.

What was your experience like working with him?

Great. He really has great presence on the field. Heís calm on the sidelines when you talk to him about the next series and of course heís tremendously talented. I really enjoyed being around Mike.

Obviously you have a history with Dan Reeves in the coaching ranks. What would it mean to you to beat Dan this weekend?

(Laughs). Well, I think we both just want the kids on our teams to play well. Itís not about me beating Dan Reeves or him beating me. Number one itís about the Shriners and the Childrenís hospitals, but number two, itís about these kids playing the game and showing what they can do. I donít think weíll get a trophy for winning or losing the game.

Last question. Do you think youíll ever be a head coach in the NFL and if you had the opportunity would you want to?

Well, I would like to. You donít know if the opportunities are coming or not as far as head coaching is concerned. I think if they look at my record they would sayÖsometimes you get an image that you havenít won for whatever reason and thatís where they want to try somebody that can win. But my record is, we were 29-19 in Buffalo, and in the 10 years since theyíve only had one winning season and we were 34-22 with the Cowboys. So that was the same winning percentage as Tom Landry so I feel good about what I have done and I feel like Iím a winner as a head coach. And I think my record proves that out. But whether or not I get that opportunity again, you know thereís only 32 of them and those opportunities donít come around very often. And I think a lot of people say hey heís already had his chance. But Iím happy where I am. This is one of the best jobs Iíve had because itís an opportunity to do well in Houston

Htownsportsfan
01-21-2011, 10:02 PM
Lets face it, Wade may not have much of a personality, and he let the inmates run the asylum his last year in Dallas once the players realized the coach isnt in charge there Jerry is.

But Wade has a good pedigree.

Hell Bum created the defensive terminology for Bear Bryant to define all of the gaps and players assignments. All the talk about one gap vs two gap etc was created by Bum. Even More the Oilers were the first team to run the 3-4 full time when Bum was the DC under Sid Gillman. Running the 3-4 is in Wade's blood. Even before the hiring of Wade by the Texans I have read where Bum would send Wade out to evaluate talent when he was with the Oilers. I believe its in Bum's book as well.

Its a shame that the disappointment of Bob keeping Gary coupled with the way the Cowboys quit under Wade this season tempers what should be an encouraging feeling about finally having a credentialed DC.

Texanmike02
01-24-2011, 05:13 AM
Wade may not be a good head coach, but he's a hell of a Defensive Coordinator!

Now we have a great Offensive Coordinator in Kubiak and DC in Wade, we just need a head coach....................

I heard ND Kalu talking one day about the year that Philly went to the SB. He said the HC was the OC and the DC was the DC. He even said that he talked to Reid a total of four times in six years with the team. I just felt like that information should be shared in this thread somewhere.

Mike

TimeKiller
01-24-2011, 07:34 AM
Wade Phillips' breath is fresh with a confident air?

steelbtexan
01-24-2011, 07:47 AM
I think certain players are built or suited for certain schemes. Like Myers couldn't start or play for a NYJ or a Steelers club. Pitts was a good Guard in the Capers system but, IMO, struggled in the zone scheme and had problems getting to the next level. Brown, and the argument could go either way, is suited more for the zone blocking and again not really a NYJ or Steeler.

Schaub? I am not much of a fan of his. Yeah I know he puts up numbers but to me he is just another McNabb or even a Chris Chandler. Sure he puts up numbers but does he win or make plays when it counts? Four years in and I say no he can't and only starts b/c Kubiak picked him. We pitched an O'fer in prime time this year and got stomped by the Cowboys. And, IMO, AJ does for Schaub what Moss did for Culpepper.

I hope Foster, like AJ is the real deal and not just a ZBS running back.

And it's the exact same discussion we are having now about the defense. Who fits what and were do they go and how are we going to use them.

Chandler and McNabb both played in the SB.

If a good enough team was put around Matt I'm sure he could win a SB.

These playoffs have proven one thing to me. The Texans are along way from being a good team and it's truly ashame that Smithiak have done such a lousy job assembling talent in the 5 yrs they've been here.

steelbtexan
01-24-2011, 08:13 AM
If the Texans fire one good ol boy to hire another good ol boy in Phillips I'll be pissed.

That's exactly what BoB did. Hire the son of an icon and keep the PR machine spinning. Fortunately Good ol boy Phillips can coach a defense.

Unfortunately he's probably not going to be part of the draft process. Which along with inactivity in FA is one of the Texans main problems.

JB
01-24-2011, 08:21 AM
That's exactly what BoB did. Hire the son of an icon and keep the PR machine spinning. Fortunately Good ol boy Phillips can coach a defense.

Unfortunately he's probably not going to be part of the draft process. Which along with inactivity in FA is one of the Texans main problems.

Why don't you think he will be a part of the draft process?

steelbtexan
01-24-2011, 08:59 AM
Why don't you think he will be a part of the draft process?

Two reasons

1. In the article Phillips said he wasn't up to date on this yrs draft.

2. No asst coach has ever had any say in the draft before. If Smith says I really like this guy Phillips (with his personality) is going to say OK lets take him. Instead of fighting for who he really wants.

He will have about the same amount of input in the draft that he had in Dallas. He probably will make suggestions. But Smith and Kubiak are going to take who they want. With as hard headed as Kubiak and Smith seem to be I really dont see much changing in the war room pecking order.

I hope I'm wrong. Time will tell.

El Tejano
01-24-2011, 01:14 PM
Two reasons

1. In the article Phillips said he wasn't up to date on this yrs draft.

2. No asst coach has ever had any say in the draft before. If Smith says I really like this guy Phillips (with his personality) is going to say OK lets take him. Instead of fighting for who he really wants.

He will have about the same amount of input in the draft that he had in Dallas. He probably will make suggestions. But Smith and Kubiak are going to take who they want. With as hard headed as Kubiak and Smith seem to be I really dont see much changing in the war room pecking order.

I hope I'm wrong. Time will tell.

Correct me if I'm wrong but Frank Bush had a major say in drafting Brian Cushing and Kareem Jackson.

steelbtexan
01-24-2011, 01:29 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong but Frank Bush had a major say in drafting Brian Cushing and Kareem Jackson.

Really, that's news to me. I thought Smith was in charge of drafting the defense. If this is true that's more than enough reason to fire Bush.

Do you have a link saying that Bush had major imput in defensive players that were drafted? I would like to read it. If what you say is the case. What actually is Smiths job?

El Tejano
01-24-2011, 03:05 PM
Really, that's news to me. I thought Smith was in charge of drafting the defense. If this is true that's more than enough reason to fire Bush.

Do you have a link saying that Bush had major imput in defensive players that were drafted? I would like to read it. If what you say is the case. What actually is Smiths job?

Right after they drafted Cushing, they held a press conference with Frank Bush and he was talking about the reason he wanted draft him being that he reminded Bush of Bill Romanowski. "And I say that tongue and cheek" is what Bush said after comparing him to Romanowski.

Then we got Bush saying that he felt that Jackson was more NFL ready and that is why he petitioned for Jackson. ' The youngman from Boise St. is a fine player but we felt Kareem is ready to come in and start dayone'

Double Barrel
01-24-2011, 06:12 PM
Lets face it, Wade may not have much of a personality, and he let the inmates run the asylum his last year in Dallas once the players realized the coach isnt in charge there Jerry is.

But Wade has a good pedigree.

Hell Bum created the defensive terminology for Bear Bryant to define all of the gaps and players assignments. All the talk about one gap vs two gap etc was created by Bum. Even More the Oilers were the first team to run the 3-4 full time when Bum was the DC under Sid Gillman. Running the 3-4 is in Wade's blood. Even before the hiring of Wade by the Texans I have read where Bum would send Wade out to evaluate talent when he was with the Oilers. I believe its in Bum's book as well.

Its a shame that the disappointment of Bob keeping Gary coupled with the way the Cowboys quit under Wade this season tempers what should be an encouraging feeling about finally having a credentialed DC.

Cool stuff about Bum. I didn't know that info regarding the gap terminology and it being related to Bum.

You make a great point about Wade coming from good pedigree. One of my biggest criticisms of Kubiak is that he still seems to think like a backup QB. When the pressure is on, it is my perception that he's not the sharpest knife in the rack. So I'm hoping that Wade's coaching intelligence rubs off on Gary, since Wade has been a coach at many different levels for a long time.

I heard ND Kalu talking one day about the year that Philly went to the SB. He said the HC was the OC and the DC was the DC. He even said that he talked to Reid a total of four times in six years with the team. I just felt like that information should be shared in this thread somewhere.

Mike

My buds and I were talking about this scenario during the games yesterday. I wonder how much power/control Wade will have when the defense is playing regarding clock management and other HC duties?

It's not the ideal situation (re: two different coaches making game management decisions), but it is what it is and as Texans fans, we're just going to have to deal with it and figure out a way to hope for the best.

GP
01-25-2011, 09:31 AM
You know, I've had some time to think about this.

Wade Phillips has been coaching, and coaching at what I perceive to be "higher levels," for a long time. Longer than Kubiak. When I say "higher levels," I just mean that he's been a DC and he's been an HC and has just generally been doing this longer than Kubiak has. There's something to be said for longevity and having seen more of the NFL world than others have thus far.

The worst thing for Kubiak to have done was to hire a rookie DC, which he went out and did when he hired Frank Bush. I am on record (here) as having said that Frank Bush deserved a shot, and that it couldn't be worse than Richard Smith. However, it was a bad move. Richard Smith was not that great either.

But this might actually work out. In fact, regardless of what the history books say about Wade Phillips as a head coach...if (and that's a big IF) he somehow some day becomes Texans HC, then maybe it works out like Bum Phillips version 2.0. Who knows.

I just know that Gary Kubiak has lost me.

BullNation4Life
01-25-2011, 10:42 AM
Phillips is a good hire...