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kiwitexansfan
01-10-2011, 03:19 PM
Anybody looking forward to this tonight?

Interested to watch Cam Newton from a NFL draft perspective, haven't seen a whole game of his this year.

I have Auburn to win it.

Thoughts?

Any players to watch?

Mr teX
01-10-2011, 03:27 PM
It's a toughee for me..Auburn's defense isn't that good - Oregon can score damn near at will & run away from you if you let them get too far ahead - but Auburn has the best player on the field....could shape up to be a good 1.

The only guy of note to watch as far as we're concerned is Nick Fairley, the DT/NT for Auburn. Absolute beast in the SEC & he'll likely be in Oregon's backfield all night.

Blake
01-10-2011, 03:41 PM
If Oregon sticks with their game they can keep it close. If they get off their game cause Newton is scoring at will, it could be a blowout.

Final Prediction: 41 - 31 Auburn.

Will be watching QB Cam Newton, DT Nick Fairley, LB Casey Matthews, LB Josh Bynes and DE Brandon Bair.

gary
01-10-2011, 04:04 PM
I know the Texans should be watching Nick Fairley.

TexansLucky13
01-10-2011, 04:31 PM
My thoughts....

War FREAKIN Eagle!

P.S. - My dad sent this to me as soon as Auburn locked up the National Championship.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_shztFSOq0WA/TRJt1pqNgKI/AAAAAAAAATA/noiaKwr7VD4/s1600/Eagle%2BEating%2BDuck.bmp

Ole Miss Texan
01-10-2011, 04:39 PM
Prediction: Auburn wins meaning the SEC takes the National Championship 5 straight seasons (4 different schools). Amazing.

Dutchrudder
01-10-2011, 04:44 PM
I'm pulling for Oregon and their Flying V formation!

http://img.youtube.com/vi/-WZ0uRJOatQ/0.jpg


DOWN WITH THE SEC!!!!!

beerlover
01-10-2011, 04:51 PM
led by Houston own Darron Thomas the Ducks have a total of 7 kids who played High School Football in Texas, not to mention I grew up in Eugene, its really not hard @ all to pick sides.

Darron is just amazing young man who doesn't get the media attention, nor does he seek it but after today if Oregon is to make a game out of it he surely will be recognized.

If anyone want to console or congratulate him here is his facebook page http://www.facebook.com/pages/Darron-Thomas/140861002623050

as they say back home, GO DUCKS http://4horseradio.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/darron_thomas3.jpg

kiwitexansfan
01-10-2011, 06:00 PM
Cam Newton would make a fantastic TE.

beerlover
01-10-2011, 06:43 PM
Cam Newton would make a fantastic TE.

I think he was born to run the wildcat

Doppelganger
01-10-2011, 06:50 PM
I know the Texans should be watching Nick Fairley.

Fairley will go well before their pick. He is likely a top 5 with an outside chance of #1.

Nawzer
01-10-2011, 06:55 PM
I have not watched Auburn play all year, so this'll be the first time I get to see Cam Newton. On the other hand, I've seen what Oregon can do and that game they had against Stanford earlier in the season was a great game. From a neutral perspective I just hope its not a blowout and that it comes down to the wire.

gary
01-10-2011, 07:05 PM
Fairley will go well before their pick. He is likely a top 5 with an outside chance of #1.Probably so but still should be watching him.

TexanSam
01-10-2011, 07:10 PM
I'm rooting for Oregon but it's hard not to choose the SEC team as tough as that conference is. Hoping for a good game

STEEL BLUE TEXANS
01-10-2011, 07:44 PM
3 and out for Oregon followed by a bad punt. Auburn has great field position.

STEEL BLUE TEXANS
01-10-2011, 07:47 PM
Does Auburn always play this uptempo or are the tryin to take a page out of Oregon's book?

TexansLucky13
01-10-2011, 07:55 PM
There it is. Oregon, meet an SEC defense.

STEEL BLUE TEXANS
01-10-2011, 07:58 PM
Cam Newton gives it right back.

STEEL BLUE TEXANS
01-10-2011, 08:03 PM
Fairley beastin it out there. Forced the bad throw leading to the INT.

TexanSam
01-10-2011, 08:07 PM
These teams look like they haven't played in over a month.

Also, wtf is up with Oregon's shoes. need to lower the brightness setting on my tv

Dutchrudder
01-10-2011, 08:09 PM
That sack on cam should have been a fumble...

Has anyone seen the Auburn cheerleaders on Tv yet? I've only seen the ducks cheerleaders. I was wondering if it's a west coast deal

GlassHalfFull
01-10-2011, 08:10 PM
These teams look like they haven't played in over a month.

Also, wtf is up with Oregon's shoes. need to lower the brightness setting on my tv

Yes to both points. I considered rooting for Oregon, until I got a load of the shoes.


It looks like nobody wants this one. You take the ball, no. You take the ball. They are playing hot potato, not football.

Dutchrudder
01-10-2011, 08:12 PM
Yes to both points. I considered rooting for Oregon, until I got a load of the shoes.


It looks like nobody wants this one. You take the ball, no. You take the ball. They are playing hot potato, not football.

Or maybe the defenses are stepping up?

Ranger Tom
01-10-2011, 08:14 PM
Scoreless first quarter. Who'd have thought?

JB
01-10-2011, 08:17 PM
Nick Fairley is BEASTLY!!!

Texan4Ever
01-10-2011, 08:17 PM
I like some of the cornerbacks that I'm seeing, much better than what we (Texans) have on our roster.

toronto
01-10-2011, 08:19 PM
uh the over/under, which was 72(!) is definately in danger.

TexanSam
01-10-2011, 08:30 PM
Oregon seems to be trying to many trick plays. Not working against this defense

EDIT: and right as I say that they throw an 80 yard pass

Nawzer
01-10-2011, 08:38 PM
Great drive by Oregon. Maybe now we'll get the high scoring game we were expecting.

Texan4Ever
01-10-2011, 08:41 PM
Great drive by Oregon. Maybe now we'll get the high scoring game we were expecting.


I expect to see more points on the board as the game goes on because the defenses will get tired soon (if there not already tired).

Nawzer
01-10-2011, 08:50 PM
Wow. What a stop on 3rd down and then dropped pass on 4th down.

JB
01-10-2011, 08:52 PM
Wow. What a stop on 3rd down and then dropped pass on 4th down.

Newton tried to rush that throw & blew it.

Texan_Bill
01-10-2011, 08:56 PM
Well, that safety just trumped the fake two point conversion of Oregon... Interesting, intersting.. :thinking:

ReliantTexan
01-10-2011, 09:02 PM
Newton looks like he's just warming up everytime he hikes the ball.

Texan_Bill
01-10-2011, 09:03 PM
Brett Musburger is such an asshat.... The Cardinals have not been the Phoenix Cardinals since 1993!!! Dude, it's time to retire.

Honoring Earl 34
01-10-2011, 09:03 PM
Well, that safety just trumped the fake two point conversion of Oregon... Interesting, intersting.. :thinking:

This game is not well played , reminds me of a lot of first halves .

gwallaia
01-10-2011, 09:18 PM
Brett Musburger is such an asshat.... The Cardinals have not been the Phoenix Cardinals since 1993!!! Dude, it's time to retire.

Musberger's brain is as garbled as Lou Holtz voice.

TexanSam
01-10-2011, 09:22 PM
Musberger's brain is as garbled as Lou Holtz voice.

I think he called Cam Newton Tim Tebow at one point in the 2nd quarter.

Here's the Brent Musburger drinking game. From 2007 but some of it still applies...pretty funny
http://benmaller.com/2011/01/brent-musburger-drinking-game/

Texan_Bill
01-10-2011, 09:31 PM
That was pretty ****ing awesome!!!! :cry2: Brought a tear to my eye!!!

The1ApplePie
01-10-2011, 09:47 PM
How does V.Y. v.2 have the Heisman again?

How did Ohio State have 5 suspended players in a Bowl game?

**** the NCAA

Nawzer
01-10-2011, 10:06 PM
What a great game. A little bit of everything.

Dutchrudder
01-10-2011, 10:10 PM
Crazy goalline stand by Auburn. Fairley is looking more and more awesome...

Texan_Bill
01-10-2011, 10:10 PM
Take the points!!! Take the points!! While applaud Oregon's bravado..... Take the damn points!!!!

TexanSam
01-10-2011, 10:12 PM
Take the points!!! Take the points!! While applaud Oregon's bravado..... Take the damn points!!!!

I agree. Would have been within 6 points with a FG. Oregon getting too cute, might come back and kill them.

Fairley is kicking ass so far. Looks like a top 5 pick

STEEL BLUE TEXANS
01-10-2011, 10:16 PM
Wouldn't be surprised if the Panthers drafted Fairley #1 overall.

Blake
01-10-2011, 10:18 PM
Fairley will go well before their pick. He is likely a top 5 with an outside chance of #1.

Wouldn't be surprised if the Panthers drafted Fairley #1 overall.

I think yall might be giving Fairley a little too much cred here with #1 overall talk. I would agree top 5 though.

JB
01-10-2011, 10:18 PM
Dyer looking pretty good for a frosh rb.

TexansLucky13
01-10-2011, 10:28 PM
Fairley is a freaking monster

Texan_Bill
01-10-2011, 10:54 PM
If you're a Duck fan, thank that ref!! Nice screen!!

Texan_Bill
01-10-2011, 10:56 PM
Ouch!!!!!!!!!!!

TexanSam
01-10-2011, 10:56 PM
It seems that every time the Oregon coaches change the play from the sideline the play fails.

and now wasting a timeout. bummer

TexanSam
01-10-2011, 10:58 PM
2 pt conversion!! Wow!

Should have kicked the field goal last time they had it at the 1. Hope it doesn't come back to haunt them!

Texan4Ever
01-10-2011, 11:00 PM
Go ducks! Quack, quack, quack!

JB
01-10-2011, 11:04 PM
Wow!

TexansLucky13
01-10-2011, 11:05 PM
What a ridiculous play that was

TexansLucky13
01-10-2011, 11:07 PM
I'll take that over a field goal try that's for sure

Edit - WTF?

TexanSam
01-10-2011, 11:08 PM
Wow.

Texan_Bill
01-10-2011, 11:08 PM
I have no dog in thid hunt, that said this was a pretty good football game........ Congrats War Eagles!


Get the **** out of what is left outta our "sorta" Big XXII?????????


Eff you Nebraska....... WOW!! I Feel you are Texas' new Arkansas....... The Big XII has been raped by you the same way Arkansas raped the best conference ever, the South West Conference!!!



Okay, I'm a bit bitter................ and I'm okay with that.

Praise be to G*d!!!

TexansLucky13
01-10-2011, 11:12 PM
Yay

JB
01-10-2011, 11:14 PM
Congrats Auburn!

jaayteetx
01-10-2011, 11:14 PM
Ducks woulda taken the points earlier, auburn would've had to at least score a td to win.

Texan4Ever
01-10-2011, 11:23 PM
Sorry for spiling the party but doesn't Gene Chizik sound a bit disingenuous? Also, I believe the Patriots are the best football team in America not Auburn.

Nawzer
01-10-2011, 11:29 PM
Good game. Congrats to Auburn. And Nick Fairley made himself a boatload of money tonight.

ziggy29
01-10-2011, 11:32 PM
I guess Auburn fans can't complain about not winning the MNC in 2005 because of another team's tainted players who shouldn't have been allowed to play any more.

stingray
01-10-2011, 11:44 PM
Saban is now talking about the game and he looks pissed that Auburn won the game. He pretty much called Oregon soft!!!

Section516
01-10-2011, 11:53 PM
Casey Matthews looked good..Can't argue if its in the blood..Wouldn't mind him over with the Texans, can probably get him in the middle rounds..

beerlover
01-11-2011, 01:42 AM
yes it was a great game if Oregon could have somehow gotten them to overtime they would have won it, Newton was completely gassed while Thomas was coming on like the green hornet. The pick by Cliff Harris end of 1st half was killer, if they overturn the call (he had posssion) then Auburn doesn't get the ball back & score on the next play.

I would say Fairly is a top 3 pick, along with Peterson & Bowers, you choose the order, in any case of no concern to me cause the Texans will not get him. Cliff Harris is hands down the best shutdown cb I've seen this season, he's gonna be a heck of a NFL cb for somebody.

Dan B.
01-11-2011, 03:54 AM
Take the points!!! Take the points!! While applaud Oregon's bravado..... Take the damn points!!!!

And Oregon lost by three...

texanhead08
01-11-2011, 08:35 AM
The question is whats the over/under on the time frame when Auburn is stripped of the title and Cam's Heisman.

toronto
01-11-2011, 08:39 AM
I enjoyed this game more than the last great BCS game, USC/Texas. Nice to see some new blood playing for all the marbles. Fairley is a frigging beast. Kid reminds me so much of Haynesworth - needs a good coach to stay on top of him to keep him in shape and motivated. If that happens the kid is a monster stud.

Mr teX
01-11-2011, 09:09 AM
Fairley played well but the Oregon line did next to nothing to try to block him imo. I saw at least a couple of times where they barely touched him & he had a free run at the qb/rb. In addition to that, I just don't like the kid for some reason. He seems like a real turd to me. Potential trouble maker once he gets some change in his pocket..maybe im wrong though.

jaayteetx
01-11-2011, 09:19 AM
And Oregon lost by three...

I thought about that too, but if they kick the fg and then subsequently score the td, they would've gone for one and then Auburn woulda been down by two and still coulda kicked the fg to win the game.

disaacks3
01-11-2011, 09:21 AM
Casey Matthews looked good..Can't argue if its in the blood..Wouldn't mind him over with the Texans, can probably get him in the middle rounds.. Them matthews boys have bred well. I'm hoping the Texans can take the Aggie lineman version in a few years as well.

Fairley played well but the Oregon line did next to nothing to try to block him imo. I saw at least a couple of times where they barely touched him & he had a free run at the qb/rb. In addition to that, I just don't like the kid for some reason. He seems like a real turd to me. Potential trouble maker once he gets some change in his pocket..maybe im wrong though. No joke - I've never seen so many defensive lineman / linebackers come through UNTOUCHED in my life.

ChampionTexan
01-11-2011, 09:26 AM
I thought about that too, but if they kick the fg and then subsequently score the td, they would've gone for one and then Auburn woulda been down by two and still coulda kicked the fg to win the game.

They almost definitely still would have gone for two anyway. Prior to the PAT, they would have been up by one point late in the game. Being up by two is no better than being up by one, so there would have been zero risk in going for two, and if you made it, a FG only ties the game.

Even at that, who knows what other differences would have been created by a fg rather than a turnover on downs - you know, the whole "if a butterfly flaps it's wings in China" thing.

JB
01-11-2011, 09:39 AM
Them matthews boys have bred well. I'm hoping the Texans can take the Aggie lineman version in a few years as well.


Yep! I think he is going to be very good for a long time.

jaayteetx
01-11-2011, 09:43 AM
They almost definitely still would have gone for two anyway. Prior to the PAT, they would have been up by one point late in the game. Being up by two is no better than being up by one, so there would have been zero risk in going for two, and if you made it, a FG only ties the game.

Even at that, who knows what other differences would have been created by a fg rather than a turnover on downs - you know, the whole "if a butterfly flaps it's wings in China" thing.

ya, your prob right.

gary
01-11-2011, 10:09 AM
I saw both teams go for two and they did so more than once. Why was this?

rmartin65
01-11-2011, 10:12 AM
Fairley played well but the Oregon line did next to nothing to try to block him imo. I saw at least a couple of times where they barely touched him & he had a free run at the qb/rb. In addition to that, I just don't like the kid for some reason. He seems like a real turd to me. Potential trouble maker once he gets some change in his pocket..maybe im wrong though.

This. Kid is talented, no doubt, but last night he was unblocked on most of his plays behind the line of scrimmage. Dont get me wrong, he is a top 10 talent, but he is not the next Suh, Sapp, etc. Add in his attitude, and meh, I would not be terribly upset if the Texans passed on him if he were available. Depending on who they pick, of course.

JCTexan
01-11-2011, 10:22 AM
I saw both teams go for two and they did so more than once. Why was this?

Oregon had a surprise two point conversion early in the game to take an 11-7 lead. I don't know if anyone saw it coming, which is probably why it was successful. They went for another two point conversion late in the game because they were down two at the time. It was successful and it tied the game 19-19 with 2:33 left in the game. Auburn didn't try a two point conversion.

gary
01-11-2011, 10:30 AM
Oregon had a surprise two point conversion early in the game to take an 11-7 lead. I don't know if anyone saw it coming, which is probably why it was successful. They went for another two point conversion late in the game because they were down two at the time. It was successful and it tied the game 19-19 with 2:33 left in the game. Auburn didn't try a two point conversion.
I thought one team went for the conversion and did not convert but I was half asleep though.

JCTexan
01-11-2011, 10:42 AM
I thought one team went for the conversion and did not convert but I was half asleep though.

Nope. The scores were: Auburn 7-3, Oregon 11-7 (2 point conversion successful), Auburn 9-11 (safety), Auburn 16-11, Auburn 19-11, Oregon 19-19 (2 point conversion successful), Auburn 22-19.

There were a lot of failed 4th & goals though...

gary
01-11-2011, 10:50 AM
Nope. The scores were: Auburn 7-3, Oregon 11-7 (2 point conversion successful), Auburn 9-11 (safety), Auburn 16-11, Auburn 19-11, Oregon 19-19 (2 point conversion successful), Auburn 22-19.

There were a lot of failed 4th & goals though...
That's probably it then.

BigBull17
01-11-2011, 01:48 PM
They need to enjoy it, cause it'll be a vacant title in a few years.

GP
01-11-2011, 01:54 PM
Fairley played well but the Oregon line did next to nothing to try to block him imo. I saw at least a couple of times where they barely touched him & he had a free run at the qb/rb. In addition to that, I just don't like the kid for some reason. He seems like a real turd to me. Potential trouble maker once he gets some change in his pocket..maybe im wrong though.

For once, I agree with you. He wasn't being blocked. That's like watching a RB who never has to create his own rushing lanes (always has holes the size of a Ford truck to run through). Very deceiving when it's time to watch tape and judge it.

I'd rather have Blanc than Fairley. Put him right over the center and let him eat.

bah007
01-11-2011, 02:02 PM
Fairley played well but the Oregon line did next to nothing to try to block him imo. I saw at least a couple of times where they barely touched him & he had a free run at the qb/rb. In addition to that, I just don't like the kid for some reason. He seems like a real turd to me. Potential trouble maker once he gets some change in his pocket..maybe im wrong though.

The reason Fairley was unblocked is because Oregon wasn't running true zone read for most of the game.

In a zone read, the QB reads the movement of the backside DE. If the DE comes into the backfield, he gives to the RB. If the DE crashes down the line, he keeps it.

Oregon was running a midline option, which has all the same principles, except that you read the DT instead of the DE.

I guess they figured that they couldn't block Fairley so they would just let him go and block the people around him. As far as gameplanning goes it was the right idea. I would have done the same thing. The problem is that Thomas wasn't executing the play correctly.

He wasn't riding the give long enough. Meaning, he made his read too quickly and would either give or take before Fairley had even made his move. You're supposed to keep the ball in the RB's belly until the DT makes his move. He can't get both of you if you execute it correctly.

beerlover
01-11-2011, 02:32 PM
The reason Fairley was unblocked is because Oregon wasn't running true zone read for most of the game.

In a zone read, the QB reads the movement of the backside DE. If the DE comes into the backfield, he gives to the RB. If the DE crashes down the line, he keeps it.

Oregon was running a midline option, which has all the same principles, except that you read the DT instead of the DE.

I guess they figured that they couldn't block Fairley so they would just let him go and block the people around him. As far as gameplanning goes it was the right idea. I would have done the same thing. The problem is that Thomas wasn't executing the play correctly.

He wasn't riding the give long enough. Meaning, he made his read too quickly and would either give or take before Fairley had even made his move. You're supposed to keep the ball in the RB's belly until the DT makes his move. He can't get both of you if you execute it correctly.

dead-on analysis :goodpost:

overall I was so proud of Darron Thomas, as you pointed out, especially in the first half he hurried his reads which cost the Ducks, by the fourth quarter he settled in & played with a lot of poise for a 1st year starter.

Doppelganger
01-11-2011, 02:50 PM
For once, I agree with you. He wasn't being blocked. That's like watching a RB who never has to create his own rushing lanes (always has holes the size of a Ford truck to run through). Very deceiving when it's time to watch tape and judge it.

I'd rather have Blanc than Fairley. Put him right over the center and let him eat.

True, but he looked like a beast. He already had some hype coming into the game and then in the game looked beastly.

Without a true consensus #1, I think Fairley has put his name into the #1 spot consideration.

Mr teX
01-11-2011, 03:21 PM
True, but he looked like a beast. He already had some hype coming into the game and then in the game looked beastly.

Without a true consensus #1, I think Fairley has put his name into the #1 spot consideration.

I honestly see him as the DL version of Vernon Gholston. I don't really see anything overly spectacular about his game & i've watched him a few times this year.

silvrhand
01-11-2011, 03:52 PM
This. Kid is talented, no doubt, but last night he was unblocked on most of his plays behind the line of scrimmage. Dont get me wrong, he is a top 10 talent, but he is not the next Suh, Sapp, etc. Add in his attitude, and meh, I would not be terribly upset if the Texans passed on him if he were available. Depending on who they pick, of course.

obviously you haven't watched much SEC football all year long he has been doing this. So what he's got a bit of a nasty streak in him, I'll take a 15 yard penalty per game if the guy plays like a beast.

You aren't out there to make friends, he's not dirty he's just intimidating people.

rmartin65
01-11-2011, 08:47 PM
obviously you haven't watched much SEC football all year long he has been doing this. So what he's got a bit of a nasty streak in him, I'll take a 15 yard penalty per game if the guy plays like a beast.

You aren't out there to make friends, he's not dirty he's just intimidating people.

I watched a fair amount, as I scout the draft pretty heavily. That is why I know that he does stupid **** every game.

He is a talent, I am not disputing that. It is likely, almost a certainty, that he will go before the Texans pick. however, if he does drop, there are certainly players that I would take before Fairly.

I dispute the "he's not dirty he's just intimidating people" part. Shoving a guy's head into the ground after a tackle is a dirty play. And like one of the announcers (Kirk, I think) said, he does stuff in every game. I am all for getting tough people who dont take crap. I just dont want the guy to get penalties every game, and who will likely get suspended.

Blake
01-14-2011, 11:20 AM
I watched a fair amount, as I scout the draft pretty heavily. That is why I know that he does stupid **** every game.

He is a talent, I am not disputing that. It is likely, almost a certainty, that he will go before the Texans pick. however, if he does drop, there are certainly players that I would take before Fairly.

I dispute the "he's not dirty he's just intimidating people" part. Shoving a guy's head into the ground after a tackle is a dirty play. And like one of the announcers (Kirk, I think) said, he does stuff in every game. I am all for getting tough people who dont take crap. I just dont want the guy to get penalties every game, and who will likely get suspended.

I am not a fan of dirty players either. But sometimes they pay off if you can get them late in the draft or as a FA.

http://dubsism.files.wordpress.com/2010/06/blount_falcon_punch.gif?w=425&h=213

http://static.foxsports.com/content/fscom//img/2010/11/15/fairleyripsopenmurrarychin_20101115105401_0_0.GIF

rmartin65
01-14-2011, 11:40 AM
I am not a fan of dirty players either. But sometimes they pay off if you can get them late in the draft or as a FA.


Yep, sometimes they do. But you said it- late in the draft. I dont want to waste a top end pick on a guy who will most likely be suspended numerous times, and called for unsportsmanlike conduct at least once a game (average).

Again, Fairley is a legit talent... but I dont want him.

Ole Miss Texan
01-14-2011, 12:30 PM
Yep, sometimes they do. But you said it- late in the draft. I dont want to waste a top end pick on a guy who will most likely be suspended numerous times, and called for unsportsmanlike conduct at least once a game (average).

Again, Fairley is a legit talent... but I dont want him.

Nick Fairley: The next Albert Haynsworth? For better and/or worse.

bah007
01-14-2011, 02:35 PM
I am not a fan of dirty players either. But sometimes they pay off if you can get them late in the draft or as a FA.

There is also a huge difference between a guy like Blount (who was baited into making that stupid decision) and a guy like Fairley (who intentionally tries to injure people for no other reason than that he can).

And I'm not trying to defend Blount here. I was against drafting him when he came out too. But what Fairley does is worse than what Blount did.

He is a legit talent. I'll admit that. But I wouldn't want a guy like that on my team. The benefit may not end up equaling the cost.