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HOU-TEX
01-07-2011, 02:23 PM
The Broncos are seeking permission to interview Texans OC Rick Dennison for their head coaching vacancy.

VP of Football Operations John Elway confirmed the news Friday morning, also indicating that he believes Jim Harbaugh may ultimately choose between Stanford and Michigan. Elway mentioned ex-Giants head coach Jim Fassel as a candidate as well. The Broncos do not appear to be aiming high for their next coach. "Mark" Mularkey would've been a better pick than either.

http://www.rotoworld.com/Content/home_NFL.aspx

Thorn
01-07-2011, 02:25 PM
I'd like to see Dennison stay. Would this make him a first time HC if this happens?

HoustonFrog
01-07-2011, 02:26 PM
Was just going to report this from ESPN too.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5998906

Elway also said he's seeking permission from the Houston Texans to interview offensive coordinator Rick Dennison, a longtime Broncos assistant who has never been an NFL head coach, and is considering calling former Giants coach Jim Fassel, who tutored Elway in college and in the pros

HOU-TEX
01-07-2011, 02:30 PM
I want him to stay too. Hopefully Kubiak will turn over a lot more of the play-calling to Dennison next season. The least amount on Kubiaks plate the better chance of winning, IMO. Lock Kubiak in the offense's meeting room for the season.

Corrosion
01-07-2011, 02:35 PM
I'd like to see him stay as well not because he did such a great job - he did an adequate job first year in - But because his leaving would mean the 3rd OC for this offense in three seasons.

I think he did a great job with the running game although having Foster and Ward to tote the rock might make TB look smart.

The passing game looked to have taken a step back from a production standpoint although the numbers were close enough to those put up the year before with lil shanny.

BigBull17
01-07-2011, 02:37 PM
I'd like to see him stay as well not because he did such a great job - he did an adequate job first year in - But because his leaving would mean the 3rd OC for this offense in three seasons.

I think he did a great job with the running game although having Foster and Ward to tote the rock might make TB look smart.

The passing game looked to have taken a step back from a production standpoint although the numbers were close enough to those put up the year before with lil shanny.

I think Kubiak would be the OC. He is in all but name anyway.

Thorn
01-07-2011, 02:38 PM
Another reason for Dennison to stay is hopefully keeping Kubiak doing his head coaching chores, not being an OC and HC. If we get a new OC, you just KNOW Kubiak will be calling the plays.

IDEXAN
01-07-2011, 02:39 PM
Looks like there would have been a real opportunity for Kubiak to be the Broncos next HC had McNair fired him ?

Corrosion
01-07-2011, 02:40 PM
I think Kubiak would be the OC. He is in all but name anyway.

Its his system and he does have the final call but he's far from doing the things required of an OC.

drs23
01-07-2011, 02:42 PM
I think there's no way in hell the Texans deny permission knowing the ties there but as has been mentioned, I'd sure hate to see him go and have the 3rd OC in 3 years. Not a picture of stability IMO.

eriadoc
01-07-2011, 02:46 PM
I liked Elway a lot more when he was rumored to want Kubiak as his HC.

BigBull17
01-07-2011, 03:06 PM
Its his system and he does have the final call but he's far from doing the things required of an OC.

With an experienced assistant, he may just take over the mantle.

El Tejano
01-07-2011, 03:46 PM
Worse part if Dennison leaves is that most likely we will be dumb and hire from within which means Knapp would be the OC.

CloakNNNdagger
01-07-2011, 04:08 PM
If this occurs, there will be too much flux seen without a HC change for ONE season.:gun:

burro
01-07-2011, 04:16 PM
I've been curious as to what Dennison's true level of involvement was this past season (as in what the breakdown between plays called by Kubiak and plays called by Dennison looked like). Is Dennison just a placeholder or does he function as a legit OC with the typical responsibilities of an OC? Either way, yet another change at OC would probably be bad for the team. If for some reason he does leave, I can only hope that another big name, who likes to run the ball, can be brought in to relieve Kubiak of certain responsibilities. Nothing was more confusing about last season than Kubiak's insistence on abandoning the run when he had the league's leading rusher in the backfield.

:kubepalm:

CloakNNNdagger
01-07-2011, 05:20 PM
I think there's no way in hell the Texans deny permission knowing the ties there but as has been mentioned, I'd sure hate to see him go and have the 3rd OC in 3 years. Not a picture of stability IMO.

Elway, Broncos get permission to interview Houston's Rick Dennison
By Mike Klis
The Denver Post
Posted: 01/07/2011 01:34:45 PM MSTUpdated: 01/07/2011 02:54:44 PM MST


Rick Dennison was a Broncos assistant from 1995-2009. (Steve Nehf, The Denver Post)The Broncos are closing in on a third candidate for their head coaching position.

John Elway, the new boss of the Broncos' football department, said on his radio show Friday morning with Vic and Gary that he is in the process of seeking permission to interview Houston Texans offensive coordinator Rick Dennison about Denver's head job. The Texans have since granted permission



Read the rest (http://www.denverpost.com/commented/ci_17036156?source=commented-sports)

Thorn
01-07-2011, 05:27 PM
If this occurs, there will be too much flux seen without a HC change for ONE season.:gun:

A new OC and DC is a lot, I agree.

infantrycak
01-07-2011, 05:41 PM
A new OC and DC is a lot, I agree.

The OC is almost meaningless at this point. Everything offensive runs through Kubiak. He may give up initial play call to an OC like Shanahan did with him but he is who is in Schaub's earhole. Frankly I don't have a problem with that.

nero THE zero
01-07-2011, 05:55 PM
I thought permission was immaterial when interviewing for a raise in position?

Was this request for permission merely an unnecessary formality?

CloakNNNdagger
01-07-2011, 06:31 PM
I thought permission was immaterial when interviewing for a raise in position?

Was this request for permission merely an unnecessary formality?

If a team wants to interview an assistant coach who is still under contract with another team for its head coaching position, the current team is required to give permission for the interview as long as it happens between the end of the team's season and March 1. After March 1, teams can still ask, but the current team is not obligated to give permission.

GP
01-07-2011, 07:31 PM
So....

McNair fired Kubiak the Monday following the Jags game.

He begins a formal process with Bill Cowher, retaining all other coaches until further notice.

Elway begins formal process with Kubiak.

Win-Win.

Oh, except the one person who could have made it happen...chose to royally screw it all up. And the cherry on top is that the Broncos want our o-coord. Sure, John Elway--You can have our o-coord. His name is Gary Kubiak. Have him, please. Tell the kids that he's coming to town.

Instead, we got Bum's boy.

The way all these other teams are retaining their HC's, and how Harbaugh is with the 9ers, and how Cowher withdrew himself from the candidate pool so quickly (gee, I wonder why?) it just pisses me off all over again.

We were so friggin' close to becoming normal.

But no. Hell no. We got a plan! This is just the sort of chain of events that makes me laugh because there is no other course of action to take, as a fan.

Good Ship LOLilop.

DocBar
01-07-2011, 07:50 PM
GP, at least Denver didn't hire Cowher...yet. Leaves hope for next year. It's an unwritten rule that you let an assistant interview for a higher position. I would've been shocked AND disappointedm if Houston denied permission. I think Dennison did a pretty OK job last season and would improve next season, but I wouldn't hold a man back from bettering himself and getting such an opportunity.

GP
01-07-2011, 08:01 PM
GP, at least Denver didn't hire Cowher...yet. Leaves hope for next year. It's an unwritten rule that you let an assistant interview for a higher position. I would've been shocked AND disappointedm if Houston denied permission. I think Dennison did a pretty OK job last season and would improve next season, but I wouldn't hold a man back from bettering himself and getting such an opportunity.

Doc, I 100% want Dennison to go to Denver. Honest to goodness.

He isn't getting to do anything here but run practices and twiddle his thumbs on game day as Gary ultimately gets to radio the play into Schaub's ear.

The most remarkable thing, Doc, is that Bill Cowher has clamored publicly that he wants to be back in coaching. He's been shy when asked about the Texans. He's done just about all he can do.

I have a feeling that somehow, McNair and his people have stayed in contact with Bill Cowher's agent and have told him to hold on for one more year.

I mean, we just got what many people think is a pretty good defensive coordinator in Wade Phillips. What if Bill Cowher was here, too, alongside Wade Phillips?

That's a helluva' lot better "Dream Team" than Kubiak & Phillips, I'd say.

This is all so bizarre to me, that it has GOT to be something deeper than what's on the surface. However, it'd have to be a hiring of Phillips that Cowher could work with next year...IF this theory is to be plausible at all.

So that leaves me like the guy in Princess Bride who tries to guess which cup has the poison in it.

LOL.

Rey
01-07-2011, 08:17 PM
I really don't care if Dennison goes to Denver...

I don't even know how much of a role he plays on gameday, or even for the team period...

I'm pretty sure he does something...I'm just not sure what it is...

DocBar
01-07-2011, 09:12 PM
Doc, I 100% want Dennison to go to Denver. Honest to goodness.

He isn't getting to do anything here but run practices and twiddle his thumbs on game day as Gary ultimately gets to radio the play into Schaub's ear.

The most remarkable thing, Doc, is that Bill Cowher has clamored publicly that he wants to be back in coaching. He's been shy when asked about the Texans. He's done just about all he can do.

I have a feeling that somehow, McNair and his people have stayed in contact with Bill Cowher's agent and have told him to hold on for one more year.

I mean, we just got what many people think is a pretty good defensive coordinator in Wade Phillips. What if Bill Cowher was here, too, alongside Wade Phillips?

That's a helluva' lot better "Dream Team" than Kubiak & Phillips, I'd say.

This is all so bizarre to me, that it has GOT to be something deeper than what's on the surface. However, it'd have to be a hiring of Phillips that Cowher could work with next year...IF this theory is to be plausible at all.

So that leaves me like the guy in Princess Bride who tries to guess which cup has the poison in it.

LOL. Well, obviously you didn't take enough of the poison to make yourself immune, or you're just another smart ass Sicilian (j/k). The Dread Pirate Roberts never had such concerns. You have to ask yourself why wasn't there a bidding war for Cowher's services if he's such a hot commodity. Maybe he was just using his leverage with the media as a ploy to increase the interest in him. I see lots of coordinators promoted and a lot of coaches with records worse that Kubes being retained. That has to mean something.

wildroot
01-07-2011, 10:48 PM
I think there's no way in hell the Texans deny permission knowing the ties there but as has been mentioned, I'd sure hate to see him go and have the 3rd OC in 3 years. Not a picture of stability IMO.

I feel next years excuse rearing it's ugly head...

wildroot
01-07-2011, 11:02 PM
I see lots of coordinators promoted and a lot of coaches with records worse that Kubes being retained. That has to mean something.

Coaches with worse records being retained?
Cleveland, Broncos and Panthers all fired their coaches.
Bills just hired Gailey last year so he needs a couple years.
Cards just came off a recent SB so firing their coach after losing their HOF QB might be a little hasty.

Cinncy retained Lewis...yeah but I wouldn't call that "lots".

wildroot
01-07-2011, 11:09 PM
Doc, I 100% want Dennison to go to Denver. Honest to goodness.

He isn't getting to do anything here but run practices and twiddle his thumbs on game day as Gary ultimately gets to radio the play into Schaub's ear.

The most remarkable thing, Doc, is that Bill Cowher has clamored publicly that he wants to be back in coaching. He's been shy when asked about the Texans. He's done just about all he can do.

I have a feeling that somehow, McNair and his people have stayed in contact with Bill Cowher's agent and have told him to hold on for one more year.



Why would we put Cowher off for a year if he could be had now? What's the point of that? With Gary leading the team down the drain this year, it would have been real easy for Mcnair to pull the trigger. I can't see Gary making it this easy for him next year and any sliver of improvement this team makes, well Bob's gonna wet himself with excitement...there'll be no thought of a coaching change.

Goatcheese
01-08-2011, 04:18 AM
On the bright side if Dennison gets a HC job it would help us get our choice of OC. Being a Texans OC seems to be the fast track way to a HC gig. Calhoun, Sherman, and Dennison all got offers after 1 year, how often do you see that? Only Mini me stayed longer without getting an offer.

I'd still rather have him here coordinating the running game. Everyone we put back there looked good and Tate still needs to be coached up and get some experience in the system.

thunderkyss
01-08-2011, 09:42 AM
I'd like to see him stay as well not because he did such a great job - he did an adequate job first year in - But because his leaving would mean the 3rd OC for this offense in three seasons.


In '06 we had Sherman screwing up our OL. in '07 We had a new QB. In '08 we had Gibbs screwing up the OL. In '09 Pitts went down, Brisiel went down, & I think Kubiak said screw it, we're going pure ZBS. '10 we get Dennison.

If it's not one thing, it's been something else on the offense. For us to consistently put up numbers & points is truly an amazing feat & shows how good Kubiak is (as an offensive coordinator).

I don't want to deny a man a chance to be a HC, but damn......

If Kubiak/Smith really feel this is the end of the line for them, they would refuse.

If they can refuse.

OzzO
01-08-2011, 10:10 AM
.... You have to ask yourself why wasn't there a bidding war for Cowher's services if he's such a hot commodity. Maybe he was just using his leverage with the media as a ploy to increase the interest in him. ....

Maybe 'cause his bidding (rumors?) started at $10 mil / year. If so, that'd probably take the edge of being coveted by teams. What is the average salary for a head coach anyway... or maybe average for top 10 coaches?
:thinking:

As for the original post - ultimately, I don't think it'd be an issue if Dennison left as mentioned above - i'm sure offense runs through Kubiak anyway. Maybe it turns into a "Kubiak and Wade are OC/HC and DC/HC".

Wolf
01-08-2011, 11:46 AM
I hope Dennison stays, He did help get the running game turned around (along with Foster's great vision)

Mr. White
01-08-2011, 12:06 PM
Its his system and he does have the final call but he's far from doing the things required of an OC.

It sure seems like he does a whole lot of them. It's pretty obvious he's running the offense on gameday. The real question is what level is Dennison involved.

I won't argue with results, though. It seems like last year, he was trying too hard to incorporate Kyle Shanahan calls and Alex Gibbs calls. You could tell when Alex Gibbs got a play in, because that was when the offensive rhythm got killed.

From what they've said after this season, it sounds like Kubiak had almost zero involvement with the defense. It sounds like he let Bush run that whole side of the ball. Now it also sounds like Wade will get even more control than Bush had in that he'll get to pick his players.

Back to Dennison...I'd hate to lose him. The offensive dynamic was way better this season than any other year since Kubiak's been the HC.

Rey
01-08-2011, 01:11 PM
Back to Dennison...I'd hate to lose him. The offensive dynamic was way better this season than any other year since Kubiak's been the HC.

I am a bit confused here...

The Texans offense that I saw was not anything close to being consistently good this season.

Yes, they put up some good numbers...But most of those stats came when defenses started playing softer and started running the ball more on offense.

There were a couple of games where our offense just got flat shut down.

That said, I will not blame it all on them. Special teams didn't do a great job getting us easy scores or good field position. But if I have to grade the offense as a whole this season I would give them a C+ or B-.

And that is with the running game being an A++.

The Pencil Neck
01-08-2011, 01:22 PM
I am a bit confused here...

The Texans offense that I saw was not anything close to being consistently good this season.

Yes, they put up some good numbers...But most of those stats came when defenses started playing softer and started running the ball more on offense.

There were a couple of games where our offense just got flat shut down.

That said, I will not blame it all on them. Special teams didn't do a great job getting us easy scores or good field position. But if I have to grade the offense as a whole this season I would give them a C+ or B-.

And that is with the running game being an A++.

When Dennison came in, he said his focus was on improving the running game, improving the ability to pick up short yardage, and improving in the Red Zone.

We did all of that.

But to me, at times the passing attack seemed to be out of sorts. The passing attack seemed much sharper with Shanahan as the HC. OTOH, some of that "being out of sorts" really seemed to come down to 2 basic things:

1. Receivers dropping balls
2. Owen Daniels

We had a lot of drives killed because guys just flat out dropped the ball. We had a lot of TDs taken off the boards with guys not catching the ball.

And when OD was out or not feeling his best, the offense wasn't as smooth. When OD is there and feeling it, it opens up our passing attack.

And, personally, there were times we were throwing when I would have preferred that we would have been running.

Lucky
01-08-2011, 04:33 PM
OTOH, some of that "being out of sorts" really seemed to come down to 2 basic things:

1. Receivers dropping balls
2. Owen Daniels

Also, there were plenty of stretches where Schaub couldn't put anything on the ball. A lot of ducks came out of his hand this year. I don't think he was healthy for 16 games. And a possible 18 game schedule makes finding a real backup QB imperative.

thunderkyss
01-09-2011, 08:24 AM
So....

McNair fired Kubiak the Monday following the Jags game.

He begins a formal process with Bill Cowher, retaining all other coaches until further notice.


Yet Cowher is still not Coaching.

Are we to believe Houston is the only place he would coach for? He turned down Buffalo last year. He'd be one year closer to having that perfect situation if he took that job (with control over player personnel).

Then we've got to wonder about his confidence as a coach, if he will only take over specific situations.

What were his 3 teams anyway, NYGiants, Carolina, & Houston? All three teams, coaches on the hot seat, they know Cowher is interested, they all retain their HC?

Maybe they know something we don't.

ObsiWan
01-09-2011, 09:01 AM
Yet Cowher is still not Coaching.

Are we to believe Houston is the only place he would coach for? He turned down Buffalo last year. He'd be one year closer to having that perfect situation if he took that job (with control over player personnel).

Then we've got to wonder about his confidence as a coach, if he will only take over specific situations.

What were his 3 teams anyway, NYGiants, Carolina, & Houston? All three teams, coaches on the hot seat, they know Cowher is interested, they all retain their HC?

Maybe they know something we don't.
ummmm... part of that statement is not quite accurate. John Fox is out in Carolina and in fact may be interviewing for the Denver job (http://blogs.denverpost.com/broncos/2011/01/08/broncos-receive-formal-permission-to-interview-john-fox/6481/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+dp-blogs-broncos+%28Denver+Post:+Spo). However, your point remains even more valid; with Fox definitely gone, one has to ask why Cowher hasn't been sought after by the Carolina mgmt as Fox's replacement.

b0ng
01-09-2011, 10:05 AM
From what I've been reading, apparently Fox is the one that Denver wants the most. I think Dennison is probably safe unless Fox turns down the job or wants GM powers too.

Lucky
01-09-2011, 11:00 AM
However, your point remains even more valid; with Fox definitely gone, one has to ask why Cowher hasn't been sought after by the Carolina mgmt as Fox's replacement.
It's not valid. The owner doesn't want to spend the jack to bring in a proven winner. He prefers a young coordinator without head coaching experience that will take the job for peanuts. Like a 2006 Gary Kubiak.

dickieb
01-09-2011, 03:11 PM
Everyone knows that for free agents Houston is where they come to get their last big payday from a dumb ass organization and laugh all the way to the bank! I'm calling it now, even if we get Cowher next year with our luck he will somehow be a shell of his former self and be both the coach and GM do absolutely jack squat with our team, set us back 10 years and get the biggest coaching salary of all time while doing it.

P.S. - I'm only saying this so that I get proven wrong, cause it happens all the time!

DocBar
01-09-2011, 03:28 PM
It's not valid. The owner doesn't want to spend the jack to bring in a proven winner. He prefers a young coordinator without head coaching experience that will take the job for peanuts. Like a 2006 Gary Kubiak.

Do you really think McNair would worry about spending enough $$ to get Cowher? I'm not disagreeing, just find it kind of surprising. I think McNair just doesn't want to change right now. I think he really likes Kubiak and loves the offense. I'm not saying McNair is right or wrong for that. It's just my observation of the situation. I also think that McNair likes all the compliments he gets from other owners and coaches on his offense...as they use his team as astepping stone to the playoffs.

Pantherstang84
01-09-2011, 03:29 PM
It's not valid. The owner doesn't want to spend the jack to bring in a proven winner. He prefers a young coordinator without head coaching experience that will take the job for peanuts. Like a 2006 Gary Kubiak.

Absolutely. We are talking about the biggest sabre rattler of all of the owners here. Jerry Richardson is actually trying to float the idea that the teams are losing money under the current CBA.

Lucky
01-09-2011, 04:41 PM
Do you really think McNair would worry about spending enough $$ to get Cowher?
I was discussing Panthers owner Jerry Richardson. Concerning McNair's motivation regarding the coaching situation, I tend to side on the "McNair's an NFL rube" line of thinking. But, I can't totally dismiss the $$$ aspect based upon evidence.

J_R
01-10-2011, 01:59 AM
Dennison to interview Tuesday (http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/fb/texansfront/7373653.html)

Section516
01-11-2011, 12:44 PM
Dennison to interview Tuesday (http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/fb/texansfront/7373653.html)

Dennison considered favorite for HC job...

Others on the radar include Houston Texans offensive coordinator Rick Dennison -- considered by some, including ESPN NFL Insider Adam Schefter, to be the favorite -- Atlanta Falcons offensive coordinator Mike Mularkey, Green Bay Packers DC Dom Capers, former Giants head coach Jim Fassel and Jacksonville Jaguars offensive coordinator Dirk Koetter

http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/features/rumors

OzzO
01-11-2011, 01:13 PM
...-- Atlanta Falcons offensive coordinator Mike Mularkey, Green Bay Packers DC Dom Capers, former Giants head coach Jim Fassel and Jacksonville Jaguars offensive coordinator Dirk Koetter...

Oooh! Do THAT one!

Hmmm... can we then bring in Mularkey to be OC/assistant HC so we can have a "HC" an OC/aHC and a DC/aHC?

El Tejano
01-11-2011, 02:38 PM
We need Dennison to stay.

False Start
01-11-2011, 04:11 PM
He was quoted today as saying, "I'm orange and blue all the way through, I just work in Houston now."


:kubepalm:

El Tejano
01-11-2011, 04:16 PM
He's as good as gone then.

Dutchrudder
01-11-2011, 04:31 PM
Well, if Dennison is out who do we get to replace him? Mike Sherman? Josh McDaniels? The Colorado State coach? Matt Millen?

JB
01-11-2011, 04:36 PM
Well, if Dennison is out who do we get to replace him? Mike Sherman? Josh McDaniels? The Colorado State coach? Matt Millen?

Maybe we steal Harsin from Texas?

Doppelganger
01-11-2011, 04:38 PM
Well, if Dennison is out who do we get to replace him? Mike Sherman? Josh McDaniels? The Colorado State coach? Matt Millen?

How about Jim Fassell. He is not doing anything.

Thorn
01-11-2011, 04:41 PM
Well, if Dennison is out who do we get to replace him? Mike Sherman? Josh McDaniels? The Colorado State coach? Matt Millen?

Cower or bust!!!!11!!

JB
01-11-2011, 04:41 PM
Cower or bust!!!!11!!

:lol:

ChampionTexan
01-11-2011, 04:51 PM
Well, if Dennison is out who do we get to replace him? Mike Sherman? Josh McDaniels? The Colorado State coach? Matt Millen?

Tom Clements - QB coach for the Packers (don't know his contract status or if the Packers would grant permission, but he'd be my first choice if needed and available).

thunderkyss
01-11-2011, 06:51 PM
Well, if Dennison is out who do we get to replace him? Mike Sherman? Josh McDaniels? The Colorado State coach? Matt Millen?

Well more than likely take a Knapp.


:kubepalm:

Cjeremy635
01-11-2011, 07:36 PM
He was quoted today as saying, "I'm orange and blue all the way through, I just work in Houston now."


:kubepalm:

I was wondering what he had said. Bob Allen gave a hint to him saying something that may not be taken too well here in Houston. He said he's going to talk about it during the sports section on the news. I imagine it should be in the next 15 minutes or so. I'll post back on here if it's anything other than what you stated. That's the equivalent of a hailmary to me. It could help land him the job or it could backfire with the team here. Just depends on how he said it, the context it was in, and how the reaction of the team/fanbase here is. Sounds like he's trying to get the hell out of Dodge.

dtran04
01-11-2011, 07:53 PM
Work for Kubiak as OC for one year and you're almost guaranteed to move up in the ladder. Pretty good considering Kubiak is the real OC and the one calling the plays.

Carr Bombed
01-11-2011, 09:46 PM
Everyone knows that for free agents Houston is where they come to get their last big payday from a dumb ass organization and laugh all the way to the bank! I'm calling it now, even if we get Cowher next year with our luck he will somehow be a shell of his former self and be both the coach and GM do absolutely jack squat with our team, set us back 10 years and get the biggest coaching salary of all time while doing it.

P.S. - I'm only saying this so that I get proven wrong, cause it happens all the time!

Damn, with that point of view you might as well find the nearest skyscraper and jump.

You remind me of the posters who were laughing at the idea that Foster could be the answer or our starting RB just because of Chris Taylor. Just because we sucked in FA doesn't mean we can't hit big this season with a new defensive coaching staff and a new pipeline to different players.

P.S.

I doubt Cowher ever sucks at coaching. Don't really want him to have all G.M. control though...that never really works out.

gary
01-13-2011, 03:19 PM
I don't want Dennison if he does not want to be here.

DX-TEX
01-13-2011, 04:00 PM
John Fox takes Denver job. Guess Dennison stays?

Dutchrudder
01-13-2011, 04:15 PM
John Fox takes Denver job. Guess Dennison stays?

They still need an OC. Maybe Dennison would like to actually run the offense in another organization? I doubt he does all that much here with Kubiak controlling everything.

jaayteetx
01-13-2011, 04:16 PM
Seeing how he caught a case of foot n mouth disease, maybe a new locale might be good for him.

DexmanC
01-13-2011, 04:17 PM
They still need an OC. Maybe Dennison would like to actually run the offense in another organization? I doubt he does all that much here with Kubiak controlling everything.

Right. The Texans will have a "head coach" at each phase of the game:

Offense: Gary Kubiak

Defense: Wade Phillips

Special Teams: Joe Marciano

This is probably where the Texans want to go, anyway.

Thorn
01-13-2011, 04:23 PM
Right. The Texans will have a "head coach" at each phase of the game:

Offense: Gary Kubiak

Defense: Wade Phillips

Special Teams: Joe Marciano

This is probably where the Texans want to go, anyway.

Championship!!!11!

Pantherstang84
01-13-2011, 06:17 PM
I don't want Dennison if he does not want to be here.

Some of you people get butt hurt real easy. The dude wanted the be the HC in Denver and got caught up in the moment. Get over it.

gary
01-13-2011, 06:54 PM
Some of you people get butt hurt real easy. The dude wanted the be the HC in Denver and got caught up in the moment. Get over it.That statement sounds like a little more than just wanting the HC job.

SAMURAITEXAN
01-13-2011, 07:19 PM
Dennison played with Broncos as a player and coach except one year with the Texans. Basically, he spent all NFL years with the Broncos which explains why he came out saying things that he should of kept a little more friendlier comments to both sides.(Broncos and Texans) However, I kinda understand how he feels about the Broncos especially he had a chance to be HC where he spent most of years in the NFL. I guess you can say that he had a sentimental feeling toward the Broncos.

blitz90
01-13-2011, 08:35 PM
I hope Kubiak sets him straight w/that BS. Unacceptable.


He was quoted today as saying, "I'm orange and blue all the way through, I just work in Houston now."


:kubepalm:

beerlover
01-13-2011, 08:36 PM
:kubepalm:

gary
01-13-2011, 08:41 PM
I hope Kubiak sets him straight w/that BS. Unacceptable.
It was just a little to strong for my taste but he'll be staying put now and as long as he does his job I'll be happy but to each their own. It's over and done with now.

Texaninlild
01-13-2011, 08:47 PM
Some of you people get butt hurt real easy. The dude wanted the be the HC in Denver and got caught up in the moment. Get over it.

Some people have a difficult time with the English language and public education system in this country. Get over it. :wadepalm:

thunderkyss
01-13-2011, 08:58 PM
I hope Kubiak sets him straight w/that BS. Unacceptable.

I wonder if Kubiak said something similar when he was interviewing for the Texans the first time.

Besides, Kubiak has spent thousands of hours with the guy over the last 11 months. Kubiak shouldn't need some slip of the tongue to a Denver rag to know how dedicated he is.

J_R
01-13-2011, 09:06 PM
Sets him straight?! What? On what?


'Ok, now listen Rick. You're in the Texans organization. All this talk about you bleeding Broncos orange and blue, cut that @*#$ out. You're with the Texans -you bleed battle red, liberty white, and steel blue. Anything else and your $!* is fired!'

Ha come on! You think he cares about that? Heck no.

Denver, Houston. Houston, Denver.

It's all one big, happy family.

He wasn't out of line with his comments.

Exactly

GP
01-13-2011, 09:07 PM
Denver, Houston. Houston, Denver.

It's all one big, happy family.

He wasn't out of line with his comments.

Besides, he only runs the practices here--Which means he's already being punished enough as it is. Kubiak calls in the play to Schaub, so we know what percentage of plays make it from Dennison to Schaub: ______ (fill in the blank with your guesstimate).

I'm glad he said what he said. As it's been pointed out by a few others already, the guy has spent 99% of his time with the Broncos. I saw no harm in what he said.

Mr. White
01-13-2011, 10:20 PM
Some of you people get butt hurt real easy. The dude wanted the be the HC in Denver and got caught up in the moment. Get over it.

I'm with you. The guy's trying to get a job. People are getting too wound up over this.

Newsflash.....Every coordinator in the NFL wants to be a head coach somewhere else.

JB
01-13-2011, 10:22 PM
I'm with you. The guy's trying to get a job. People are getting too wound up over this.

Newsflash.....Every coordinator in the NFL wants to be a head coach somewhere else.

Except for :wadepalm:

HOU-TEX
01-14-2011, 10:19 AM
I'm with you. The guy's trying to get a job. People are getting too wound up over this.

Newsflash.....Every coordinator in the NFL wants to be a head coach somewhere else.

Heck, he might even be telling the truth. I've lived in the Fwood/Pland area my entire life. If I ended up being transfered or was offered a job I couldn't refuse and ended up in a different state, I'd do and say the same thing. After a few days of sobbing due to being away from Texas, I'd have no problem telling anybody and everybody that I'm a Texan through and through.

Personally, I could care less what he said. He's got a job to do here and he should do that job to the best of his ability.

gary
01-14-2011, 11:22 AM
Saying I just work in Houston sounds as if he might be a little put out with his current to me but whatever.

Second Honeymoon
01-14-2011, 11:26 AM
of course he thinks it sucks here. you know why? because it sucks here.

other coaches are in the playoffs, getting playoff bonuses, and competing for championships.

we are too busy worried about picking apart everything someone says to try and make ourselves feel better about being such a crap team.

the Texans (and some of their fans) have made their bed and now they need to lay in it. Being cheap, petty, and incompetent is no way to run a franchise...and it all starts up top.

Screw Bob and his losing franchise
Screw Kubiak and his bumbling stupidity and his lack of testicular fortitude
Screw the Texans...they will continue to suck until the mindset is changed from profit to winning

F You Bob

gary
01-14-2011, 11:33 AM
I might be upset and want to win but hell I don't go cussing anyone out over a football game. That is not worth it and childish to say the least.

infantrycak
01-14-2011, 12:37 PM
of course he thinks it sucks here. You know why? Because it sucks here.

Other coaches are in the playoffs, getting playoff bonuses, and competing for championships.

We are too busy worried about picking apart everything someone says to try and make ourselves feel better about being such a crap team.

The texans (and some of their fans) have made their bed and now they need to lay in it. Being cheap, petty, and incompetent is no way to run a franchise...and it all starts up top.

Screw bob and his losing franchise
screw kubiak and his bumbling stupidity and his lack of testicular fortitude
screw the texans...they will continue to suck until the mindset is changed from profit to winning

f you bob

vc!

gary
01-14-2011, 01:24 PM
vc!What does that stand for? Sorry, I don't know.

disaacks3
01-14-2011, 01:40 PM
Some of you people get butt hurt real easy. The dude wanted the be the HC in Denver and got caught up in the moment. Get over it. That's a major league faux pas and appears to show a lack of respect for your current employer. If Houston is "only where he works", then I wish him well somewhere else. I want the coaches here to feel something more about their jobs than "just a paycheck".

I wonder if Kubiak said something similar when he was interviewing for the Texans the first time.

Besides, Kubiak has spent thousands of hours with the guy over the last 11 months. Kubiak shouldn't need some slip of the tongue to a Denver rag to know how dedicated he is. So, what if Kubiak ISN'T so rock-solid sure about him? What if Kubiak had seen/heard things about his preparation that gave him nagging doubts?

ChampionTexan
01-14-2011, 02:09 PM
Well, at least we'll never hear the accusation that the only reason he hasn't been fired is because of he's an Aggie and has lots of home-town connections working for him.

thunderkyss
01-14-2011, 02:46 PM
So, what if Kubiak ISN'T so rock-solid sure about him? What if Kubiak had seen/heard things about his preparation that gave him nagging doubts?

If Kubiak is having second doubts about how Dennison does his job, he should fire him.

Shouldn't have to wait for him to say something stupid publicly.

DexmanC
01-14-2011, 02:49 PM
If Kubiak is having second doubts about how Dennison does his job, he should fire him.

Shouldn't have to wait for him to say something stupid publicly.

At this point, wouldn't surprise me if Kubiak thinks he owes Dennison for
coming here in the first place.

houstonspartan
01-14-2011, 03:33 PM
At this point, wouldn't surprise me if Kubiak thinks he owes Dennison for
coming here in the first place.

LOL. True.

I'm on the fence about this issue. Clearly, he tried to state his case for the job and used his experience/history with the franchise as a selling point. No harm in that. But, he stated it very poorly.

On the other hand, this franchise needs to look at itself. You don't come here to "win." You come here to make money. The Texans pay it's players and coaches very well, and everybody knows it.

Winning? That's another story.

But at least you'll have a nice lifestyle here.

DexmanC
01-14-2011, 03:56 PM
LOL. True.

I'm on the fence about this issue. Clearly, he tried to state his case for the job and used his experience/history with the franchise as a selling point. No harm in that. But, he stated it very poorly.

On the other hand, this franchise needs to look at itself. You don't come here to "win." You come here to make money. The Texans pay it's players and coaches very well, and everybody knows it.

Winning? That's another story.

But at least you'll have a nice lifestyle here.

Isn't that what Dunta said after he was aked about his "PayMe Rick"
sneakers? The players don't fear losing, because the Texans
are the easiest paycheck in the NFL. I'll be watching this team,
but I ain't predictin' SHIT.

GP
01-14-2011, 04:11 PM
If Kubiak is having second doubts about how Dennison does his job, he should fire him.

Shouldn't have to wait for him to say something stupid publicly.

Kubiak doesn't fire people. Silly TK, he thinks Kubiak would fire a friend himself.

I kid, TK. I kid...