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GP
01-03-2011, 04:58 PM
Question: Last time, you said you will interview several?
 
Kubiak: I will talk to several.
 
Question: Your decision solely?
 
Kubiak: All [have] a part of that process. Bob got ideas, Rick got ideas, I got ideas. We gotta come up with best group of guys.
 
Question: Final say?
 
Kubiak: We will all work together.

Unless houstonspartan transcribed it incorrectly, this is a blatant effort by Kubiak to not reveal who the HELL is in charge and has control of the operations here. Am I right, or am I wrong?

This is obviously a well-guarded and well-measured answer on Kubiak's behalf, but it would have been nice to know if the owner, the GM, the owner AND the GM, or if the HC is pulling the trigger on things now.

Does anyone have any other source material that can shed light on the decision-making process? That'd be nice to have a definitive answer, instead of us all sitting here debating it for 2011.

I don't think all three of them can come to a consensus on who to get as DC. My current theory is that the GM will have ultimately say, especially after Kubiak having to fire his friends (cue the theme song to "Friends" tv show).

Ole Miss Texan
01-03-2011, 05:04 PM
I would believe that Smith has the trump card over Kubiak. With that said, McNair has the trump card over Smith.

3. Kubiak has the final okay on anyone hired to his staff.
http://www.texansbullblog.com/sleeper-prediction-texan-dc-greg-robinson/featured-articles/

J_R
01-03-2011, 05:05 PM
Not because McClain said it but I believe it is Kubiak's final call. How I read into it when he says Rick and Bob got ideas; "Rick got ideas, Bob got ideas, I got ideas, so I'll listen to them on their input but ultimately is my final say".

dalemurphy
01-03-2011, 05:13 PM
Did you notice that Kubiak said, without saying, that Bernard Pollard is a goner? Kubiak has zero intention of having him back on the team. I found that interesting.

Runner
01-03-2011, 05:31 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if "final say" is situational. It has been before in this organization. The lack of a clear chain of command does not make for a smooth running ship.

Ole Miss Texan
01-03-2011, 05:41 PM
Did you notice that Kubiak said, without saying, that Bernard Pollard is a goner? Kubiak has zero intention of having him back on the team. I found that interesting.

He sure scooted around that question. Sounds like he's gone. Veteran CB + Veteran S needed from free agency.

ThaShark316
01-03-2011, 05:51 PM
Think of it like the movie Crimson Tide:

Rick Smith = Gene Hackman

Gary Kubiak = Denzel Washington...

Get it?

Runner
01-03-2011, 05:52 PM
He sure scooted around that question. Sounds like he's gone. Veteran CB + Veteran S needed from free agency.

Unless they decide to go young.

dc_txtech
01-03-2011, 05:56 PM
Unless houstonspartan transcribed it incorrectly, this is a blatant effort by Kubiak to not reveal who the HELL is in charge and has control of the operations here. Am I right, or am I wrong?

This is obviously a well-guarded and well-measured answer on Kubiak's behalf, but it would have been nice to know if the owner, the GM, the owner AND the GM, or if the HC is pulling the trigger on things now.

Does anyone have any other source material that can shed light on the decision-making process? That'd be nice to have a definitive answer, instead of us all sitting here debating it for 2011.

I don't think all three of them can come to a consensus on who to get as DC. My current theory is that the GM will have ultimately say, especially after Kubiak having to fire his friends (cue the theme song to "Friends" tv show).

Not that it's a big deal and it looks like an easy mistake to make but I believe that it was HoustonSportsFan09 who transcribed that in the presser thread. I only noticed because I rep the guy every week for doing that and think he should get his due credit.

Carry on:texflag:

houstonspartan
01-03-2011, 06:04 PM
Not that it's a big deal and it looks like an easy mistake to make but I believe that it was HoustonSportsFan09 who transcribed that in the presser thread. I only noticed because I rep the guy every week for doing that and think he should get his due credit.

Carry on:texflag:

I was just about to say the same thing. Thanks for the credit, but I'm not the one who transcribed the press conference. I do appreciate all of those on here that take the time to do so however.

GP
01-03-2011, 06:06 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if "final say" is situational. It has been before in this organization. The lack of a clear chain of command does not make for a smooth running ship.

Sort of like children who have a play date, and each one takes turns being "the boss" and "the employee" and "the customer."

Yeah, it's pretty eff'd up.

Malloy
01-03-2011, 06:15 PM
Unless they decide to go young.

aw.. I didn't need that :(

Malloy
01-03-2011, 06:23 PM
Missed the presser and it's not up yet. Quotes are though... I should wait until tomorrow.

datchapin
01-03-2011, 06:58 PM
Did you notice that Kubiak said, without saying, that Bernard Pollard is a goner? Kubiak has zero intention of having him back on the team. I found that interesting.

Haven't read the transcript, what did he say to suggest that. Then why Pollard?

dalemurphy
01-03-2011, 07:10 PM
Haven't read the transcript, what did he say to suggest that. Then why Pollard?

Here are the quotes:

(on whether he talked to SS Bernard Pollard about his free agency situation) You know, there were a few guys like that today. I met with every player today and visited with them briefly. There are guys that are listed as unrestricted free agents; there are guys that could be restricted depending on what happens with the CBA (Collective Bargaining Agreement). I think thats a very open book right now, so we dont know, but my conversation with Bernard was good. He did not play yesterday with his shoulder bothering him, but he has done his job for us, he has always played hard for us. Bernard is sitting, I would assume, in a good situation. Hes been a good football player, hes free, and well see what happens.

(on whether he wants SS Bernard Pollard back with the Texans next season) Hes done a good job for this football team, but we have to go back and what well start doing tomorrow morning is go back and evaluating our football season and looking at our players, and weve got to decide which direction we go, but Bernard has always done his job.



It was the tone as well. He was very measured in limiting his compliments and skirting the question. Barrett and I were both independently struck that it was a strong signal he was not coming back.

Cjeremy635
01-03-2011, 07:20 PM
I listened to it as well and got the same feeling about Pollard. Can't say I'm too upset about it. He has a cool personality and all, but the dude is a liability in our worst part on D, pass coverage. We need to trim the fat at a lot of positions this year. We can do better at that position and we must do it to improve.

dalemurphy
01-03-2011, 07:26 PM
I listened to it as well and got the same feeling about Pollard. Can't say I'm too upset about it. He has a cool personality and all, but the dude is a liability in our worst part on D, pass coverage. We need to trim the fat at a lot of positions this year. We can do better at that position and we must do it to improve.

I think Pollard was counted on to be a leader, particularly when they went super-young with the secondary. Instead of being accountable and helping the young guys, I think he played poorly in coverage and also diverted blame instead of taking responsibility for his mistakes. Kubiak wanted him to be accountable for his own mistakes and probably would've liked him to claim responsibility for some of Jackson's errors, as well. Instead, I saw Pollard yelling at a CB after a TD when Pollard clearly vacated his zone and helped cause the TD... not what Kubiak and company was looking for in leadership, I think.

(all that being said, I think Pollard is/can be a good player and was put in position to fail too often this season)

Lucky
01-03-2011, 07:33 PM
Haven't read the transcript, what did he say to suggest that. Then why Pollard?
Pollard's a FA and he doesn't know if Wade wants him or not. Wade very well might want Pollard back, as Phillips did have big, physical safeties suchas as Atwater and Dennis Smith with the Broncos.

Rey
01-03-2011, 07:34 PM
I don't see anything peculiar about what Gary said...

I will say that I don't think Rick Smith has more say than Kubiak in this regard...

What has HE done to earn that right?

Porky
01-03-2011, 08:29 PM
Don't worry about Pollard. Smithiak has their eye on Jack Sprat, a great little project safety from the Little Sisters of the Poor wheelchair college team in the 7th rd.

DoCRoN
01-03-2011, 09:22 PM
unless they decide to go young.


lol

Htownsportsfan
01-03-2011, 09:38 PM
There were many strange answers from Kubiak today in his press conference and on his coaches show on 610. During one segment on 610 he essentially said it was his call on DC as long as Mcnair didnt have an issue.

I have strange feeling the Wade hire is done and is just a formality. I might just being a bit conspiratorial but there were an aweful lot of the vague answers by Kubiak that seemed evasive. That along with the fact that Kollar is staying and has history with Wade. Some of Garys answers were just evasive enough it seems as though he knows who the DC will be but was putting on a show. Maybe he and Mcnair think it would be disrespectful to the fired coaches to already have a new DC which would indicate not only was the decision made some time ago but they were looking for a replacement before they were fired. It would also explain why Wade's sister would call into 610 after all the press regarding Wade being the new DC and spin it that he might get better offers and not want the Houston job. On Chron.com tonight there was an article with quotes from Wade indicating he was interested in the DC position. Everything seems just a bit to contrived. Generally I am a believer in the where there is smoke there is fire. All of the write up about Wade coming to Houston both locally and nationally had to have some source.

GP
01-03-2011, 11:36 PM
Whoever it was that was telling me that Bum's visit with Bob, days before the last game of this season, was a 100% sign that Bob was preparing the fans for such a move (Wade as DC) was, IMO, 100% correct.

I have to now admit that I was wrong. (cue the animated gifs, you jackholes!).

This has been a done deal for some time now.

They didn't do a very good job of selling the shenanigans, except to me. :choke:

BullNation4Life
01-03-2011, 11:46 PM
Pollard's a FA and he doesn't know if Wade wants him or not. Wade very well might want Pollard back, as Phillips did have big, physical safeties suchas as Atwater and Dennis Smith with the Broncos.

I think Pollard in a 3-4 would make Pollard a great fit. He is a "in the box" safety that can blitz and cause havoc around the line. Find a Ball hawk for FS and I think they might be ok there in the 3-4

Texanmike02
01-03-2011, 11:55 PM
Pollard's a FA and he doesn't know if Wade wants him or not. Wade very well might want Pollard back, as Phillips did have big, physical safeties suchas as Atwater and Dennis Smith with the Broncos.

That's the way I read it. Not that he doesn't have any desire... he doesn't have any say. I'm starting to think there was a conversation that went like this:

Bob: Gary, can you come into my office?
Gary: Sure.
Bob: What the HELL is this 6-10 SULLBHIT?
Gary: Its on me Bob. We had a good preseason of practice... and I th... I th... I th
Bob: No you tool, its NOT on you. You're a glorified OC. Its on the defense, don't you recognize that?
Gary: Well sure.
Bob: You run the office, you're lucky I didn't put assistant in front of your team title. Under no circumstances are you to go even LOOK at the defense.
Gary: Yes sir.

Mike

michaelm
01-04-2011, 12:00 AM
That's the way I read it. Not that he doesn't have any desire... he doesn't have any say. I'm starting to think there was a conversation that went like this:

Bob: Gary, can you come into my office?
Gary: Sure.
Bob: What the HELL is this 6-10 SULLBHIT?
Gary: Its on me Bob. We had a good preseason of practice... and I th... I th... I th
Bob: No you tool, its NOT on you. You're a glorified OC. Its on the defense, don't you recognize that?
Gary: Well sure.
Bob: You run the office, you're lucky I didn't put assistant in front of your team title. Under no circumstances are you to go even LOOK at the defense.
Gary: Yes sir.
Bob: Now squeal like a pig for me boy... SQUEEEEEALLL!

Mike

Fixed it.

Malloy
01-04-2011, 03:42 AM
Here are the quotes:


It was the tone as well. He was very measured in limiting his compliments and skirting the question. Barrett and I were both independently struck that it was a strong signal he was not coming back.

Fair enough, I've only read the transcript and this was not the feeling I got. Admitted Kubiak was being rather vague, but I could write that off as a 'Let's wait and see what the ned D-O wants' comment.

Tone of voice however, as an indicator of what a person says, is highly subjective, BUT since you actually listened to it, and I didn't, then I'm inclined to believe you :)