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CloakNNNdagger
01-03-2011, 11:44 AM
The total Texans paid attendance of 71,023 for yesterday's meaningless game was the sixth-highest crowd in Texans history. Four of the five largest were logged this season.

The total paid attendance for this season was a franchise-record 709,503. That surpassed the previous high of 705,947 set in 2004.

Nowhere do I see yesterday's actual turnstile attendance which was pitiful, but obviously a response to the team's pitiful overall performance........and the owner's oblivious "responses."

The PAID attendance record in light of quality of the product has afforded Uncle Bob the position to leave the message to fans..........."Let them eat cake."

Now, how did the original story using that line end??????.....................

DonnyMost
01-03-2011, 11:46 AM
Of course we set records this year.

Coming off the first winning season, spanking the division champ on opening day, 4-2 to start the year... people were losing their damned minds.

Next year will be markedly different in terms of enthusiasm, and not in a good way.

Kimmy
01-03-2011, 11:47 AM
I was wondering about that as well. They usually state it during the game at some point, and it was blatantly absent yesterday.

Ckw
01-03-2011, 11:50 AM
This is why Texans fans are weenies. Sorry, but I have very little respect for anyone that even showed up yesterday if you wanted Kubiak fired. The only way to have sent a message to Bob was to not show up as long as he continued his "We're on the right track on the Kubiak train" bull shit. If you are happy with Kubiak and are just happy to have football in Houston, fine go to the game. But if you actually wanted Kubiak gone, you were a fool to show up yesterday even if you did pay for the tickets.

What do we do? We set a freaking attendance record. I really am beginning to believe Houston fans are a joke. Makes me almost wish I wasn't born and raised here...

:mariopalm:

Double Barrel
01-03-2011, 11:51 AM
PSL's undermine the only weapon that fans have against inept and loser owners.

Houston Texans Marketing, Inc. is working overtime right now to get ready for the most important part of the year: season ticket renewals and sales.

Enjoy your "free gift", folks, because it's the highlight of every Texans season.

Kimmy
01-03-2011, 11:52 AM
snip --

What do we do? We set a freaking attendance record. I really am beginning to believe Houston fans are a joke. Makes me almost wish I wasn't born and raised here... --- snip



It was PAID attendance, not ACTUAL attendance. That is why CND mentioned the turnstiles in his post .... The stadium was a ghost town. Even some seats on the first freaking rows were empty ....

Malloy
01-03-2011, 11:56 AM
"Let them eat cake."

Now, how did the original story using that line end??????.....................

And they had cake ? ;)

houstonhurricane
01-03-2011, 11:56 AM
PSL's undermine the only weapon that fans have against inept and loser owners.

Houston Texans Marketing, Inc. is working overtime right now to get ready for the most important part of the year: season ticket renewals and sales.

Enjoy your "free gift", folks, because it's the highlight of every Texans season.

I cannot wait to read the letter and marketing materials they send me with the invoice for next season. "Dear Houstonhurricane, I know we stunk it up and kept our failing GM and coach, but don't worry, there is a decent chance that we won't end up starting 5-7 for the fifth year in a row because there will be certainly a lockout. Also, we have decided to raise ticket prices by 25% to keep up with the inflationary issues plauging the Asia markets. Please pay up immediately so Mr. McNair can pay Coach Kubiak and GM Smith their inflated salaries. Go Texans!"

NitroGSXR
01-03-2011, 11:58 AM
Bob!!!! They didn't count my 18 month old baby. Unable to get a babysitter, we brought him along with us. Add him to the end totals!! We are #1 fans!!

:-/

michaelm
01-03-2011, 12:04 PM
This is why Texans fans are weenies. Sorry, but I have very little respect for anyone that even showed up yesterday if you wanted Kubiak fired. The only way to have sent a message to Bob was to not show up as long as he continued his "We're on the right track on the Kubiak train" bull shit. If you are happy with Kubiak and are just happy to have football in Houston, fine go to the game. But if you actually wanted Kubiak gone, you were a fool to show up yesterday even if you did pay for the tickets.

What do we do? We set a freaking attendance record. I really am beginning to believe Houston fans are a joke. Makes me almost wish I wasn't born and raised here...

:mariopalm:


It wasn't actual attendance, but paid attendance that was that high. Virtually all of those tickets were sold months ago before the wheels fell off.
I was one of the people at the game (your lack of respect for my attendance not withstanding), and I can tell you that the actual crowd in no way came close to setting any kind of record.
BTW, yesterday's attendence will have zero effect on Kubiak's future, IMO. Zero.
I'm assuming that you're not a season ticket holder, otherwise you might take into account that some people have considerations that would make them attend the game. In my case, I have family that just wanted to go to the game. They don't have any reason to boycott for a coaching change.
I'm definately not going to deprive my six year old daughter of the experience just because I have a point to prove. She doesn't even know who Kubiak is yet...

thunderkyss
01-03-2011, 12:04 PM
PSL's undermine the only weapon that fans have against inept and loser owners.



This...

DoCRoN
01-03-2011, 12:09 PM
...Nowhere do I see yesterday's actual turnstile attendance which was pitiful...

Interesting you should mention that. We went to the game in Denver last weekend. They do an "attendance quiz" on the scoreboard towards the end of the game. Not a "paid attendance" BS quiz, but an actual "through the turnstile, butts-in-seats" quiz.

They put up 3 choices, yadda-yadda, then reveal the answer. You know how the reveal it? They say something like (lets assume 72,000 capacity):

"Today's game attendance is 66,347. That means that there were 5,653 NO SHOWS for today's game." This is followed by a chorus of boo's. Pretty awesome.

Ckw
01-03-2011, 02:51 PM
It was PAID attendance, not ACTUAL attendance. That is why CND mentioned the turnstiles in his post .... The stadium was a ghost town. Even some seats on the first freaking rows were empty ....

Thanks for the clarification. I should have read it a bit closer. My bad.

I hardly watched the game yesterday. Anger has set in and if the rumors are true and Kubiak is staying, apathy may be all that remains.

SheTexan
01-03-2011, 03:53 PM
It was PAID attendance, not ACTUAL attendance. That is why CND mentioned the turnstiles in his post .... The stadium was a ghost town. Even some seats on the first freaking rows were empty ....


The stadium was not a ghost town. Some empty seats on every level, but, definitely not almost empty!! Geeeezzzz!! The Bullpen was about full, even had our fair share of Jags fans, who were mighty quiet for a change.

What I did find quiet funny was the announcers tone of voice when he announced "and coach Gary Kubiak." It was so obvious he was displeased, I'm not sure he'll have a job next year IF GK comes back. The announcement was followed with all the boooooo's you Kubiak hater's love to hear. The team was not booooed, and a good reception during the announcement of ProBowl winners Vonta Leach and Arian Foster. AJ was on the sideline and they didn't mention him. That's one reason I try to leave the "politics" out of my love for the game. Watching those two boys get some much deserved attention just made me feel good. They deserved support from the fans, and that's they way it's suppose to be. They're not going to the playoffs, but, dammit, they are going to the pro-bowl and we should let them know we are proud of them.

Another PLUS for being at the game!! The fly over after the National Anthem sent chills all over me. Everyone around me was impressed, and a few even had tears in their eyes, myself included. A friend of mine, who sits behind me, and has a son in the Air Force, automatically put his hand over his heart! It was chilling to watch several guys grab their hats off their heads and place them over their hearts. How they timed that fly over so perfectly was simply amazing.

I don't go to the games to protest. I didn't do that when we were 2-14, and I wouldn't do it if we went 0-16. It does not mean I support what goes on in the FO, penthouse, or anyplace else where decisions are made that effect the politics of the game. Yesterday, I saw friends I will not see again until Aug or Sept. I visited with board members who travel to see their fav team. I watched kids getting their face painted, and pics taken. I enjoyed watching my grandchildren at the game and tailgate, having FUN! They could care less about all the talk about rally's and demonstrations, or where we fall in the friggin draft. I understand everyones frustration about coaching decisions, etc. BUT, for those of you who want to blast those that attended the game, remember, there's more to going to the games than being hard headed and staying at home just because a bunch of billionaires and millionaires don't do what I want them to do. Thinking about the positives helps take the edge off the negatives.

Kimmy
01-03-2011, 04:03 PM
The stadium was not a ghost town. Some empty seats on every level, but, definitely not almost empty!! Geeeezzzz!! The Bullpen was about full, even had our fair share of Jags fans, who were mighty quiet for a change.



It was empty, and quiet .... virtual ghost town during the 4th and we were winning. The bull pen is the same as the Red Rowdies - they will always be there whether anyone else is or not.

I agree with everything else you posted, my daughter served 4 years on the GW in Japan, the fly overs and national anthem always get me.

CretorFrigg
01-03-2011, 04:04 PM
It was empty, and quiet .... virtual ghost town during the 4th and we were winning. The bull pen is the same as the Red Rowdies - they will always be there whether anyone else is or not.

I agree with everything else you posted, my daughter served 4 years on the GW in Japan, the fly overs and national anthem always get me.

Yeah, it looked like it was really quite on TV.

SheTexan
01-03-2011, 05:48 PM
It was empty, and quiet .... virtual ghost town during the 4th and we were winning. The bull pen is the same as the Red Rowdies - they will always be there whether anyone else is or not.

I agree with everything else you posted, my daughter served 4 years on the GW in Japan, the fly overs and national anthem always get me.

Yes, fans did leave during the forth, but, up until then, it wasn't that bad. Apathy played a huge roll in fans leaving during the 4th, but, what's new? They do that EVERY game, regardless of what's going on. I guess I was just a little surprised at the turnout. I expected a lot lower attendance and expected to hear a lot more negatives, boo's and that sort of thing.

Speedy
01-03-2011, 06:29 PM
The stadium was not a ghost town. Some empty seats on every level, but, definitely not almost empty!! Geeeezzzz!! The Bullpen was about full, even had our fair share of Jags fans, who were mighty quiet for a change.

What I did find quiet funny was the announcers tone of voice when he announced "and coach Gary Kubiak." It was so obvious he was displeased, I'm not sure he'll have a job next year IF GK comes back. The announcement was followed with all the boooooo's you Kubiak hater's love to hear. The team was not booooed, and a good reception during the announcement of ProBowl winners Vonta Leach and Arian Foster. AJ was on the sideline and they didn't mention him. That's one reason I try to leave the "politics" out of my love for the game. Watching those two boys get some much deserved attention just made me feel good. They deserved support from the fans, and that's they way it's suppose to be. They're not going to the playoffs, but, dammit, they are going to the pro-bowl and we should let them know we are proud of them.

Another PLUS for being at the game!! The fly over after the National Anthem sent chills all over me. Everyone around me was impressed, and a few even had tears in their eyes, myself included. A friend of mine, who sits behind me, and has a son in the Air Force, automatically put his hand over his heart! It was chilling to watch several guys grab their hats off their heads and place them over their hearts. How they timed that fly over so perfectly was simply amazing.

I don't go to the games to protest. I didn't do that when we were 2-14, and I wouldn't do it if we went 0-16. It does not mean I support what goes on in the FO, penthouse, or anyplace else where decisions are made that effect the politics of the game. Yesterday, I saw friends I will not see again until Aug or Sept. I visited with board members who travel to see their fav team. I watched kids getting their face painted, and pics taken. I enjoyed watching my grandchildren at the game and tailgate, having FUN! They could care less about all the talk about rally's and demonstrations, or where we fall in the friggin draft. I understand everyones frustration about coaching decisions, etc. BUT, for those of you who want to blast those that attended the game, remember, there's more to going to the games than being hard headed and staying at home just because a bunch of billionaires and millionaires don't do what I want them to do. Thinking about the positives helps take the edge off the negatives.

BRAVO!!!

Must spread rep yadda yadda.

Despite the respect lost for me, like that means anything to anybody, which it doesn't, I was there too. And there were a LOT more people there than I expected. I've seen the building much, much more empty before. Yeah, folks cleared out in the 4th with the Texans leading, but so what? You jump their asses for leaving, you jump their asses for even being there, just freaking stop already.

Fans are NOT the reason this team is 9 years without playoffs. 90 consecutive sellouts are not the reason this team is 9 years without playoffs. It's bad enough to read through the drivel some of you have about coaches, players, schemes, owners, etc, but leave the fans out of it. They're not the ones who gave up a 72 yard drive in 45 seconds in New Jersey. They're not the ones who batted a Hail Mary into the hands of a receiver in Florida. They're not the ones who decided not to run the ball against Indy when that's how you owned them the 1st time. They're not the ones who couldn't make one single stop against Philadelphia after you got the lead.

So if you're going to jack up the fans for going to games, well, you've lost respect from me. There, do you see how stupid that sounds?

CloakNNNdagger
01-03-2011, 06:46 PM
From the Chronicle (http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/fb/texansfront/7363215.html):

The Texans proudly announced the attendance for Sunday's Houston-Jacksonville game as a robust 71,023, blithely ignoring the visual evidence that maybe 30 percent of that number declined to show up for a team of also-rans playing out the string on a disappointing season.The seats that were filled, however, were occupied by the hard-core fans, season ticket holders and tailgaters who will return in 2011 to Reliant Stadium regardless of who coaches and who plays for the Texans as they seek their first playoff berth.

Double Barrel
01-03-2011, 06:57 PM
The Texans proudly announced the attendance....

Sadly, attendance is the only thing that this franchise can be proud of...and beating the Cowboys on opening day, of course.

"Pride is a funny thing; it can make what is truly worthless appear to be a treasure."
~ Alice Hoffman

Andrew6
01-03-2011, 08:11 PM
i do have to say that it was the worst "Fan Appreciation" game. They didn't give anything out and players usually come around at the end but didnt. :(

SheTexan
01-03-2011, 08:48 PM
i do have to say that it was the worst "Fan Appreciation" game. They didn't give anything out and players usually come around at the end but didnt. :(

This is so true!! I saw Cush give away some of his stuff and slap hands with the fans, but, that was about all. BUT, this is not unusual for our players. They truly are NOT that fan friendly, esp after a game, win or lose. I could go into detail on that, but, at this point in time, who cares.

Kimmy
01-03-2011, 09:32 PM
BRAVO!!!
It's bad enough to read through the drivel some of you have about coaches, players, schemes, owners, etc, but leave the fans out of it. They're not the ones who gave up a 72 yard drive in 45 seconds in New Jersey. They're not the ones who batted a Hail Mary into the hands of a receiver in Florida. They're not the ones who decided not to run the ball against Indy when that's how you owned them the 1st time. They're not the ones who couldn't make one single stop against Philadelphia after you got the lead.

So if you're going to jack up the fans for going to games, well, you've lost respect from me. There, do you see how stupid that sounds?

Agreed ... and if I may add .....

I've had my season tickets for six years, my PSL for three. At the end of last year, we bought two more PSL's for a total of four. I have been to almost every game during that time, there has only been one game where our seats were empty and it was only due to an oversight on our part.

I am a die hard fan. I tailgate, I buy some form of merchandise at every single game, not including the things I buy from Target, Academy, etc. My car has pin-striping on it with the Texans logo on the fenders, I have a Texans room, I have a Texans tattoo. The only thing I listen to on the radio is 610 am (only until 11, and only during the season, sorry, I despise Jim Rome) and then Sirius NFL 124. I pretty much live for football. I am a Houston Texans FAN.

And guess what, if you just watch the games at home and never buy a thing but you love this team, YOU'RE A FAN TOO!

With all that being typed, if I chose NOT to go to a game or voice my displeasure, or give someone else props for doing the same that is MY CHOICE. It does NOT make me a bad fan or a bandwagon jumper.

What's crappy is when members here or self proclaimed pot stirrers begin to feel they have the right to bash others. This is NOT being a fan. This is not supporting your team or the community in which we all exist in.

I have NEVER called anyone out on this board for not going to a game, or planning to attend a rally or being pissed about the outcome of the last 8 years.

When you are a fan, you take the good with the bad.

If you get a little more worked up than someone else, who the freak cares? If it enrages you so, don't read them. But don't call out any other fan because their level of 'fandom' doesn't measure up to yours.

I used to read the Bullpen for the majority of the time. A friend told me about TT and how much better it was, and they were right. It has gotten so negative here, and I'm not typing negative gripes about players, coaches, etc; I'm typing about the personal BASHING of other members.

If I chose to boo, I can. If I chose to leave during halftime, I can. If I think that McNair is a stoooopid mothertrucker for keeping Kubiak and want to post about it, guess what, I can do that, too!

Doesn't mean I don't support my team or I am not a fan. This whole "don't let the modem hit you in the a$$ on the way out" crap has to stop.

I'm probably posting in the wrong spot, so move if needed.

/rant

I'm just typing ....

Kimmy
01-03-2011, 09:44 PM
And one last thought ... until we have a 1972 Dolphin'esque perfect season, no one will ever be happy. And even if we do, there will be game day threads b!ching about plays, and I will probably be one of them :)

SheTexan
01-03-2011, 09:58 PM
Agreed ... and if I may add .....

I've had my season tickets for six years, my PSL for three. At the end of last year, we bought two more PSL's for a total of four. I have been to almost every game during that time, there has only been one game where our seats were empty and it was only due to an oversight on our part.

I am a die hard fan. I tailgate, I buy some form of merchandise at every single game, not including the things I buy from Target, Academy, etc. My car has pin-striping on it with the Texans logo on the fenders, I have a Texans room, I have a Texans tattoo. The only thing I listen to on the radio is 610 am (only until 11, and only during the season, sorry, I despise Jim Rome) and then Sirius NFL 124. I pretty much live for football. I am a Houston Texans FAN.

And guess what, if you just watch the games at home and never buy a thing but you love this team, YOU'RE A FAN TOO!

With all that being typed, if I chose NOT to go to a game or voice my displeasure, or give someone else props for doing the same that is MY CHOICE. It does NOT make me a bad fan or a bandwagon jumper.

What's crappy is when members here or self proclaimed pot stirrers begin to feel they have the right to bash others. This is NOT being a fan. This is not supporting your team or the community in which we all exist in.

I have NEVER called anyone out on this board for not going to a game, or planning to attend a rally or being pissed about the outcome of the last 8 years.

When you are a fan, you take the good with the bad.

If you get a little more worked up than someone else, who the freak cares? If it enrages you so, don't read them. But don't call out any other fan because their level of 'fandom' doesn't measure up to yours.

I used to read the Bullpen for the majority of the time. A friend told me about TT and how much better it was, and they were right. It has gotten so negative here, and I'm not typing negative gripes about players, coaches, etc; I'm typing about the personal BASHING of other members.

If I chose to boo, I can. If I chose to leave during halftime, I can. If I think that McNair is a stoooopid mothertrucker for keeping Kubiak and want to post about it, guess what, I can do that, too!

Doesn't mean I don't support my team or I am not a fan. This whole "don't let the modem hit you in the a$$ on the way out" crap has to stop.

I'm probably posting in the wrong spot, so move if needed.

/rant

I'm just typing ....

I'll save you all the time and effort to figure out who she's talking about. That would be ME. Well, guess what! I've been a member of this board since the day Kevin started it, and I've NEVER seen so many two faced hypocrits in my life as I have this year. AND, I'm NOT pointing the finger at you Kimmy!! This is an OPINION board, or at least it use to be that way. But, for some reason some fans thinks their opinion is the only one that counts. If you don't HATE Kubiak you're an i*diot, if you don't wish death on Bob McNair than you're not a "true fan." If you don't boycot a game then your some kind of wuss, etc, etc, etc. This place USE to be FUN, and YES, I stir the pot, just to have some fun and try to ease some of the tension. I'm beginning to think I need to do what so many of my friends on this board have done, LEAVE!!

Just like Bob McNair, this is Kevins toy and it is his to do with as he pleases. Just like other fans on this board, it is MY choice to go or stay. This board has degressed trememdously since all the newbies came here from the old board, JMO, and esp since Vinny left. Truthfully, it's time for me to take a break, maybe a permanent one!!

Kimmy
01-03-2011, 09:59 PM
I'll save you all the time and effort to figure out who she's talking about. That would be ME. Well, guess what! I've been a member of this board since the day Kevin started it, and I've NEVER seen so many two faced hypocrits in my life as I have this year. AND, I'm NOT pointing the finger at you Kimmy!! This is an OPINION board, or at least it use to be that way. But, for some reason some fans thinks their opinion is the only one that counts. If you don't HATE Kubiak you're an i*diot, if you don't wish death on Bob McNair than you're not a "true fan." If you don't boycot a game then your some kind of wuss, etc, etc, etc. This place USE to be FUN, and YES, I stir the pot, just to have some fun and try to ease some of the tension. I'm beginning to think I need to do what so many of my friends on this board have done, LEAVE!!

Just like Bob McNair, this is Kevins toy and it is his to do with as he pleases. Just like other fans on this board, it is MY choice to go or stay. This board has degressed trememdously since all the newbies came here from the old board, JMO, and esp since Vinny left. Truthfully, it's time for me to take a break, maybe a permanent one!!


Was NOT speaking of you .... and not going to give the ones that do the pleasure of the attention, as that is what they want.

CloakNNNdagger
01-03-2011, 10:11 PM
Agreed ... and if I may add .....

I've had my season tickets for six years, my PSL for three. At the end of last year, we bought two more PSL's for a total of four. I have been to almost every game during that time, there has only been one game where our seats were empty and it was only due to an oversight on our part.

I am a die hard fan. I tailgate, I buy some form of merchandise at every single game, not including the things I buy from Target, Academy, etc. My car has pin-striping on it with the Texans logo on the fenders, I have a Texans room, I have a Texans tattoo. The only thing I listen to on the radio is 610 am (only until 11, and only during the season, sorry, I despise Jim Rome) and then Sirius NFL 124. I pretty much live for football. I am a Houston Texans FAN.

And guess what, if you just watch the games at home and never buy a thing but you love this team, YOU'RE A FAN TOO!

With all that being typed, if I chose NOT to go to a game or voice my displeasure, or give someone else props for doing the same that is MY CHOICE. It does NOT make me a bad fan or a bandwagon jumper.

What's crappy is when members here or self proclaimed pot stirrers begin to feel they have the right to bash others. This is NOT being a fan. This is not supporting your team or the community in which we all exist in.

I have NEVER called anyone out on this board for not going to a game, or planning to attend a rally or being pissed about the outcome of the last 8 years.

When you are a fan, you take the good with the bad.

If you get a little more worked up than someone else, who the freak cares? If it enrages you so, don't read them. But don't call out any other fan because their level of 'fandom' doesn't measure up to yours.

I used to read the Bullpen for the majority of the time. A friend told me about TT and how much better it was, and they were right. It has gotten so negative here, and I'm not typing negative gripes about players, coaches, etc; I'm typing about the personal BASHING of other members.

If I chose to boo, I can. If I chose to leave during halftime, I can. If I think that McNair is a stoooopid mothertrucker for keeping Kubiak and want to post about it, guess what, I can do that, too!

Doesn't mean I don't support my team or I am not a fan. This whole "don't let the modem hit you in the a$$ on the way out" crap has to stop.

I'm probably posting in the wrong spot, so move if needed.

/rant

I'm just typing ....

Excellent post. MSR

NitroGSXR
01-03-2011, 10:17 PM
I'll save you all the time and effort to figure out who she's talking about. That would be ME. Well, guess what! I've been a member of this board since the day Kevin started it, and I've NEVER seen so many two faced hypocrits in my life as I have this year. AND, I'm NOT pointing the finger at you Kimmy!! This is an OPINION board, or at least it use to be that way. But, for some reason some fans thinks their opinion is the only one that counts. If you don't HATE Kubiak you're an i*diot, if you don't wish death on Bob McNair than you're not a "true fan." If you don't boycot a game then your some kind of wuss, etc, etc, etc. This place USE to be FUN, and YES, I stir the pot, just to have some fun and try to ease some of the tension. I'm beginning to think I need to do what so many of my friends on this board have done, LEAVE!!

Just like Bob McNair, this is Kevins toy and it is his to do with as he pleases. Just like other fans on this board, it is MY choice to go or stay. This board has degressed trememdously since all the newbies came here from the old board, JMO, and esp since Vinny left. Truthfully, it's time for me to take a break, maybe a permanent one!!

I'm pretty sure she was not talking about you.

Rep if I can...

Kimmy
01-03-2011, 10:43 PM
snip --- I'll save you all the time and effort to figure out who she's talking about. That would be ME. Well, guess what! I've been a member of this board since the day Kevin started it, and I've NEVER seen so many two faced hypocrits in my life as I have this year. AND, I'm NOT pointing the finger at you Kimmy!! --snip

You're posting about Thunderkyss, right? See what I did? I stirred the pot. I said I wouldn't, but I did :chef::stirpot:

And TK, no prob with you. In fact, I think you get cracked on the most :(

thunderkyss
01-04-2011, 09:54 AM
I am a Houston Texans FAN.

And guess what, if you just watch the games at home and never buy a thing but you love this team, YOU'RE A FAN TOO!

With all that being typed, if I chose NOT to go to a game or voice my displeasure, or give someone else props for doing the same that is MY CHOICE. It does NOT make me a bad fan or a bandwagon jumper.

What's crappy is when members here or self proclaimed pot stirrers begin to feel they have the right to bash others. This is NOT being a fan. This is not supporting your team or the community in which we all exist in.


When you are a fan, you take the good with the bad.

If I chose to boo, I can. If I chose to leave during halftime, I can. If I think that McNair is a stoooopid mothertrucker for keeping Kubiak and want to post about it, guess what, I can do that, too!

Doesn't mean I don't support my team or I am not a fan.

Great post.... & I agree 100%

The line I draw, is when you root for this team to lose, just to promote your own personal agenda.

I can understand being alright with a loss, if it means a better draft position.

I can understand not caring if we win or lose.

I can understand believing the more we lose, the better the chance Kubiak is gone.

BUt... How can you say you love this team, the players... Andre, Owen, Schaub, Foster, Demeco, Mario, Pollard..... But you are rooting for them to lose.

Those guys want to win, no matter what the circumstances.

I believe a fan should as well.

But that's just me.

BigBull17
01-04-2011, 10:25 AM
The stadium was not a ghost town. Some empty seats on every level, but, definitely not almost empty!! Geeeezzzz!! The Bullpen was about full, even had our fair share of Jags fans, who were mighty quiet for a change.

What I did find quiet funny was the announcers tone of voice when he announced "and coach Gary Kubiak." It was so obvious he was displeased, I'm not sure he'll have a job next year IF GK comes back. The announcement was followed with all the boooooo's you Kubiak hater's love to hear. The team was not booooed, and a good reception during the announcement of ProBowl winners Vonta Leach and Arian Foster. AJ was on the sideline and they didn't mention him. That's one reason I try to leave the "politics" out of my love for the game. Watching those two boys get some much deserved attention just made me feel good. They deserved support from the fans, and that's they way it's suppose to be. They're not going to the playoffs, but, dammit, they are going to the pro-bowl and we should let them know we are proud of them.

Another PLUS for being at the game!! The fly over after the National Anthem sent chills all over me. Everyone around me was impressed, and a few even had tears in their eyes, myself included. A friend of mine, who sits behind me, and has a son in the Air Force, automatically put his hand over his heart! It was chilling to watch several guys grab their hats off their heads and place them over their hearts. How they timed that fly over so perfectly was simply amazing.

I don't go to the games to protest. I didn't do that when we were 2-14, and I wouldn't do it if we went 0-16. It does not mean I support what goes on in the FO, penthouse, or anyplace else where decisions are made that effect the politics of the game. Yesterday, I saw friends I will not see again until Aug or Sept. I visited with board members who travel to see their fav team. I watched kids getting their face painted, and pics taken. I enjoyed watching my grandchildren at the game and tailgate, having FUN! They could care less about all the talk about rally's and demonstrations, or where we fall in the friggin draft. I understand everyones frustration about coaching decisions, etc. BUT, for those of you who want to blast those that attended the game, remember, there's more to going to the games than being hard headed and staying at home just because a bunch of billionaires and millionaires don't do what I want them to do. Thinking about the positives helps take the edge off the negatives.

Yeah, I was kind of shocked how full it was. My buddy gave me some tickets and my girl and I had a nice little Sunday. I just casually watched for the first time in 4 years. My girl loved it cause I never got mad or turned into Angry Aaron. I was chill. I hate that they have broken my spirit that way.

Texan4Ever
01-04-2011, 12:30 PM
Not to hijack this thread but I had a question to some of you season ticket holders (PSLs?). Like the Lions did after there 0-16 season, do the Texans allow season ticket holders a chance to talk with coaches and staff about the direction the team is going and provide input on what they think needs to be done?

Just wondering, seems like the right thing to do for fans who spend some serious $$$ on season tickets.

TexansSeminole
01-04-2011, 12:55 PM
Yesterday, I saw friends I will not see again until Aug or Sept. I visited with board members who travel to see their fav team. I watched kids getting their face painted, and pics taken. I enjoyed watching my grandchildren at the game and tailgate, having FUN! They could care less about all the talk about rally's and demonstrations, or where we fall in the friggin draft. I understand everyones frustration about coaching decisions, etc. BUT, for those of you who want to blast those that attended the game, remember, there's more to going to the games than being hard headed and staying at home just because a bunch of billionaires and millionaires don't do what I want them to do. Thinking about the positives helps take the edge off the negatives.

I don't care if people go to the games, because it doesn't matter and its not my decision. The reason it doesn't matter is precisely what your talking about here, SheTexan. Its the amusement park feel that some people get. Its the "wow we are at a football game" feel. The "look at the smile on my son's face" feel. There will always be people like that willing to go to the games.

But, it would be good for you to know that ALOT of people aren't like that. People who don't have kids to bring to the game or message board buddies to huddle up with. Most people grab a friend or a girlfriend and head to the game, and winning is the #1 priority. Its not about watching a kid smile or anything like that. We simply want our team to win.

That's what I think your having such a hard time understanding. You go to the game and experience something different that the majority of people don't. Thats not what most fans do.