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Big Lou
12-27-2010, 10:54 PM
In light of the Denver Debacle, I decided to post a new, "Will Kubiak be fired at the end of the year?"

I'm going with yes, as I've stated before, ironically I think McNairs conservative approach drives the firing. Also I think this makes the most sense for the Marketing Department.

Can we put a bigger chin on the Texans Logo?

So everyone vote and we'll see who's wrong in a week or two!!!!!!

brakos82
12-27-2010, 10:55 PM
In light of the Denver Debacle, I decided to post a new, "Will Kubiak be fired at the end of the year?"

I'm going with yes, as I've stated before, ironically I think McNairs conservative approach drives the firing. Also I think this makes the most sense for the Marketing Department.

Can we put a bigger chin on the Texans Logo?

So everyone vote and we'll see who's wrong in a week or two!!!!!!

I see what you did there... :kitten:

Shaft75
12-27-2010, 11:05 PM
Can a mod please put a question mark at the end of the thread title? For the love of god... People might confuse this with a TN message board.

Norg
12-27-2010, 11:07 PM
I wonder If BOb already knows his decesion right now or his he still going over the hole season with his Front office and scouts

If u fire Kubes u might has well Fire The GM two

anywho i wonder if BOb has called COwer already and told him da plan he would only fire Kubes if he knew for certin Cower would come to houston

houstonspartan
12-27-2010, 11:10 PM
I wonder If BOb already knows his decesion right now or his he still going over the hole season with his Front office and scouts

If u fire Kubes u might has well Fire The GM two

anywho i wonder if BOb has called COwer already and told him da plan he would only fire Kubes if he knew for certin Cower would come to houston

Remember that sense of doom right before Dom Capers got fired? Everyone knew it was coming, the question was when. There was a black cloud over the team, fans, the media. You could just feel it coming.

That's how it feels now.

He's done.

Grforces
12-27-2010, 11:11 PM
Don't think he will be fired. I heard a couple of good points on the radio that make alot of sence. With the lockout that might be coming, that means no extra practices, TC might not be there, no OTA's, and maybe a shortened season. Also, putting Mario out for the season, not playing Johnson.
Hell, lets put something crazy out there and say that we threw the game on purpose because he knows that he won't be fired, and Kubes wants a good draft pick.
Im just trying to find all the exuses Mcnair will justify him being here next year.

Big Lou
12-27-2010, 11:13 PM
Can a mod please put a question mark at the end of the thread title? For the love of god... People might confuse this with a TN message board.

Damn that's cold man. I always feel so rushed when posting a poll during peak board hours since you have to hurry and add your poll choices before anyone opens the thread and thinks WTF, so I missed some punctuation....

Man I feel like Antonio Smith and Brian Cushing during the Tacks game, we're turning on each other!!!!! Can't we all just get along?!?!?!?!?!

Also isn't a Titans board sort of an Oxymoron? I mean Titans Fans would have to have 3-4 things to have a Message Board:

1. Electricity
2. Computer w/Internet Connection
3. Enough brain power to operate a computer
4. Possibly opposable thumbs to type effeciently

houstonspartan
12-27-2010, 11:14 PM
Don't think he will be fired. I heard a couple of good points on the radio that make alot of sence. With the lockout that might be coming, that means no extra practices, TC might not be there, no OTA's, and maybe a shortened season. Also, putting Mario out for the season, not playing Johnson.
Hell, lets put something crazy out there and say that we threw the game on purpose because he knows that he won't be fired, and Kubes wants a good draft pick.
Im just trying to find all the exuses Mcnair will justify him being here next year.

If the only reason someone can come up with to not fire the coach is because of a labor situation, that's even MORE of a reason to fire him. That is a terrible reason to keep a coach.

Just ask Dallas.
And Denver.
And Minneapolis.
And San Francisco.

J_R
12-27-2010, 11:16 PM
Yes he will be fired. Bob imo can no longer sell "We're so close!" or "We finished strong with a 4 game win streak to finish 8-8/9-7. We're gonna turn that corner next year."

Grforces
12-27-2010, 11:19 PM
If the only reason someone can come up with to not fire the coach is because of a labor situation, that's even MORE of a reason to fire him. That is a terrible reason to keep a coach.

Just ask Dallas.
And Denver.
And Minneapolis.
And San Francisco.

I feel the same way. I Just dont see it happening. Maybe I just dont want to be let down. Im already starting to think of the positives, I.E. DC/OC maybe new H/C. The draft.
Just think if he dosen't get fired how bad this offseason is going to suck! All we are going to hear is the same stuff we are hearing now.

Big Lou
12-27-2010, 11:23 PM
Don't think he will be fired. I heard a couple of good points on the radio that make alot of sence. With the lockout that might be coming, that means no extra practices, TC might not be there, no OTA's, and maybe a shortened season. Also, putting Mario out for the season, not playing Johnson.
Hell, lets put something crazy out there and say that we threw the game on purpose because he knows that he won't be fired, and Kubes wants a good draft pick.
Im just trying to find all the exuses Mcnair will justify him being here next year.

I think the Lock Out shouldn't be a reason. Even if a new coach is brought in and they can't practice as much, does McNair and the fan base expect a 14 win season in year one of a new regime? I don't see a Lock Out causing the season to be cancelled either.

I really could see Denver picking up Kubes either picking up his current contract or after he's canned, which means that he's off McNairs payroll either way.

I think this is the perfect oppurtunity for McNair to be a nice guy. He can dump Kubes and Gary gets to go to his second choice for coaching, and he gets to hire a new guy. Then Denver and Houston are both happy, and hell maybe we end up with a draft pick.

Shaft75
12-27-2010, 11:31 PM
Damn that's cold man. I always feel so rushed when posting a poll during peak board hours since you have to hurry and add your poll choices before anyone opens the thread and thinks WTF, so I missed some punctuation....

Man I feel like Antonio Smith and Brian Cushing during the Tacks game, we're turning on each other!!!!! Can't we all just get along?!?!?!?!?!

Also isn't a Titans board sort of an Oxymoron? I mean Titans Fans would have to have 3-4 things to have a Message Board:

1. Electricity
2. Computer w/Internet Connection
3. Enough brain power to operate a computer
4. Possibly opposable thumbs to type effeciently

Dude...

All I wanted was a question mark! It's all love, in the name of grammar. I'm not trying to rip your helmet off bro!

Grforces
12-27-2010, 11:33 PM
I think the Lock Out shouldn't be a reason. Even if a new coach is brought in and they can't practice as much, does McNair and the fan base expect a 14 win season in year one of a new regime? I don't see a Lock Out causing the season to be cancelled either.

I really could see Denver picking up Kubes either picking up his current contract or after he's canned, which means that he's off McNairs payroll either way.

I think this is the perfect oppurtunity for McNair to be a nice guy. He can dump Kubes and Gary gets to go to his second choice for coaching, and he gets to hire a new guy. Then Denver and Houston are both happy, and hell maybe we end up with a draft pick.

Ok, maybe im showing my football ignorance here, but picking up a draft pick for a coach? Does that really happen? I been reading it all over this board, but I thought it was sarcasm. Has it ever happened?

brakos82
12-28-2010, 12:27 AM
Ok, maybe im showing my football ignorance here, but picking up a draft pick for a coach? Does that really happen? I been reading it all over this board, but I thought it was sarcasm. Has it ever happened?

It did at least one time, then the NFL prohibited it.

Brisco_County
12-28-2010, 01:05 AM
There are times when you know that a coach is getting fired.

Every single Houston sports writer --most of whom defended Kubiak until this season-- has committed to the campaign to oust him. And the fans are in solidarity with the media.

After five years, we can't win anything. And the wins we had this year were ugly, except week one, which we only secured through a surprise tactic.

Kansas City, Atlanta, New Orleans, Houston. Which one of these is not like the others?

Four NFL coaches have already been canned, and the body count could probably reach ten, which dismisses concerns about a lockout deterring coaching changes.

Kubiak is done, and if he's not, we have an owner who's nuttier than Al Davis.

Malloy
12-28-2010, 04:02 AM
neither response would surprise me, but instead of hoping/expecting one result I'll much rather just... wait it out and see what happens.

I'm a fan, I can't help it, I'll cheer for this team if Kubiak stays, I'll cheer if we get a new HC... Hell I'd cheer if they brought back Capers! (As in, I would cheer for the team, NOT for getting Capers back!) :)

Corrosion
12-28-2010, 04:37 AM
Yes he will be fired. Bob imo can no longer sell "We're so close!" or "We finished strong with a 4 game win streak to finish 8-8/9-7. We're gonna turn that corner next year."

Oh but he can .... Just take a look at the numbers.


Rushing offense.

Passing Offense

Rushing Defense. Yes I said Defense.

#1 in 3rd down conversions </=1 yard.

3rd down conversion %.


Last I checked - Before the Titans game - they were no lower than 7th in any of those categories.

#1 RB in TD's , Yards rushing , yards from scrimmage.

AJ . 4th in recieving yards 4th in receptions despite mising 2 games so far.

Schaub - 4th in passing yards. One of only a handful of QB's to take every snap so far this season( as well as last year).


Thats the things McNair can sell while keeping Kubiak and saying how close the team is ....

I think they started playing for draft position after losing to the Ravens. Otherwise you dont have MW on IR and AJ sitting on the sidelines.

My theory is that they keep Kubiak and bring in some players to try to fix whats broken on the back end of the defense. With the thinking being that they do so many things well that the pass defense is the one thing keeping them from success. (I dont believe thats all thats wrong with the team but thats not the discussion here).

They've also lost a few games in heart breaking fashion .... I know it doesnt matter how you lose but thats not the point. We're talkin about Bob here. Our opinions dont matter , he believes we are close and those losses like Jacksonville , NY Jets and Baltimore support his belief at least to some extent.

You can add the above to the fact that there will likely be a strike shortened season (If there is one at all). There could be no OTA's and no training camp. That would make a coaching transition very difficult. For the most part , it would be throwing away another season to get the staff and systems in place .... Followed by more complaining by fans.

Toss in having to pay Kubiak for next season anyway .... And I really believe that he sticks around for another year.

SheTexan
12-28-2010, 04:41 AM
No, I don't think he will be fired! BUT, that does not mean I don't want him to be! I just think he will be given one more year, due to all the excuses that have been mentioned a zillion times.

Sure wish I had one of these!!:fortune:

Seņor Stan
12-28-2010, 06:44 AM
No, they're in the job for life club, lets all hug.

Sunshine, Lollipops, Rainbows AND Hugs!!! Wow!

DerekLee1
12-28-2010, 07:40 AM
It did at least one time, then the NFL prohibited it.

It happens, and it's still allowed. In 2003, after the Gruden deal, it was temporarily prohibited, but was apparently quietly reinstated, as in 2006 Herm Edwards was "traded" to the Chiefs. Actually "trading" coaches (for draft picks) doesn't really happen; instead, a coach will ask permission to interview with another team. If that coach is hired, the hiring team sends compensatory draft picks to the other party. Examples:


1997 Bill Parcels left the Patriots in favor of the Jets and the Patriots were compensated with a first, second, third, and fourth round pick

1998 Mike Holmgren leaves the Packers to become coach/GM of the Seahawks. Packers were compensated with a 2nd round pick.

2000 Parcels resigns, Bill Belichick ascends to the head coaches job for the Jets but opts instead to go to New England. The Jets were compensated with the Patriots number 1 draft pick

2002 Jon Gruden left Oakland to join Tampa and Oakland got Tampa's number 1 pick.

In 2006, Herm Edwards leaves New York Jets to sign with Kansas City. Edwards still had 2 years left on his contract with NY but was not as high profile as the other three ... so the Jets got only a fourth round pick for him.

rmartin65
12-28-2010, 07:57 AM
It happens, and it's still allowed. In 2003, after the Gruden deal, it was temporarily prohibited, but was apparently quietly reinstated, as in 2006 Herm Edwards was "traded" to the Chiefs. Actually "trading" coaches (for draft picks) doesn't really happen; instead, a coach will ask permission to interview with another team. If that coach is hired, the hiring team sends compensatory draft picks to the other party. Examples:


1997 Bill Parcels left the Patriots in favor of the Jets and the Patriots were compensated with a first, second, third, and fourth round pick

1998 Mike Holmgren leaves the Packers to become coach/GM of the Seahawks. Packers were compensated with a 2nd round pick.

2000 Parcels resigns, Bill Belichick ascends to the head coaches job for the Jets but opts instead to go to New England. The Jets were compensated with the Patriots number 1 draft pick

2002 Jon Gruden left Oakland to join Tampa and Oakland got Tampa's number 1 pick.

In 2006, Herm Edwards leaves New York Jets to sign with Kansas City. Edwards still had 2 years left on his contract with NY but was not as high profile as the other three ... so the Jets got only a fourth round pick for him.

****... If Denver took him we are looking at a 7th. Possibly giving up the 7th...

Texan_Bill
12-28-2010, 08:25 AM
I don't think he'll be fired, although I think he should be at this point.

At the same time, I refuse to vote because of the smarmy remarks attached to the vote. A simple yes or no would've sufficed.

Pantherstang84
12-28-2010, 09:48 AM
I don't think he'll be fired, although I think he should be at this point.

At the same time, I refuse to vote because of the smarmy remarks attached to the vote. A simple yes or no would've sufficed.

I agree with you. Just because someone thinks he will not be fired, does not mean the believe he shouldn't be fired. One thing I know for sure is that McNair loves him some Kubiak. That carries a lot of weight by itself.

Corrosion
12-28-2010, 07:29 PM
I don't think he'll be fired, although I think he should be at this point.

At the same time, I refuse to vote because of the smarmy remarks attached to the vote. A simple yes or no would've sufficed.

Thats funny TB , I didnt vote for the same reason .....

JB
12-28-2010, 07:34 PM
Thats funny TB , I didnt vote for the same reason .....

I suspect there is more than a few that did not vote for the same reasons.

drs23
12-28-2010, 07:37 PM
I suspect there is more than a few that did not vote for the same reasons.

Yup, +1

rmartin65
12-28-2010, 07:40 PM
Yup, +1

+2

I think he is gone.

Ghostform
12-28-2010, 07:48 PM
This looks like something that would be posted on the official boards.

anyway i think this year was his last.

Kaiser Toro
12-28-2010, 07:55 PM
This looks like something that would be posted on the official boards.

anyway i think this year was his last.

I was surprised it was resurrected after being dormant for ten hours, but that is the nature of message boards.

gary
12-28-2010, 07:56 PM
No need to call anyone names that is just taking things way to personally.

Corrosion
12-28-2010, 09:35 PM
This looks like something that would be posted on the official boards.

anyway i think this year was his last.

I havent been to the official boards in several years.

It along with many of the new posters who have joined here recently remind me of Clutchfans .... a bunch of melonheads.

I was surprised it was resurrected after being dormant for ten hours, but that is the nature of message boards.

The subjet matter is something we all want the answer to and all have an opinion on .... I'd like to see someone respond to my first post in the thread on what kinda hog Bob can sell next season if he keeps Kubiak.


The way the OP presented it is another thing all together.

Texan_Bill
12-28-2010, 09:47 PM
I havent been to the official boards in several years.

It along with many of the new posters who have joined here recently remind me of Clutchfans .... a bunch of melonheads.



The subjet matter is something we all want the answer to and all have an opinion on .... I'd like to see someone respond to my first post in the thread on what kinda hog Bob can sell next season if he keeps Kubiak.


The way the OP presented it is another thing all together.

Yeah, the OP's smarmy's comments were really hard to make it for me to vote..

Corrosion
12-28-2010, 09:59 PM
Yeah, the OP's smarmy's comments were really hard to make it for me to vote..

Im sure he thought it was funny at the time .... and considering that just about everyone thinks Kubiak should be gone I can see why he would.


I just didnt like how it was presented.