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Carr Bombed
12-20-2010, 04:33 PM
http://prod.www.texans.clubs.nfl.com/tv-media/videos/Kubiak-live-at-330-pm-CT/690c82f0-f6b6-4f21-ba5b-566e04ee3fd6

Section516
12-20-2010, 04:36 PM
I resign as Head Coach of the Houston Texans effective immediately..I apologize to all the fans that i have let down, the city of houston, Mr. Mcnair, and my team. Please, hire a competent coaching staff to replace me.

Gary Kubiak



Man can dream, right?

HoustonFrog
12-20-2010, 04:39 PM
They are drilling him and asking him some head scratchers too where he is like "what?"

Shaft75
12-20-2010, 04:39 PM
Barry Warner is trying to get him a little stirred up. Kubes politely disagrees. LOL

The1ApplePie
12-20-2010, 04:40 PM
Listened to a bit driving back from lunch.

He sounds like a guy that wants to get fired.

Being a guy that wants to get fired, I can sympathize

sandmanx
12-20-2010, 04:40 PM
I liked the way Barry Warner is asking about leadership and at least not lobbing softballs out to him. Kubes replies sound as scripted as the first 15 plays no matter what the question though, these pressers are almost useless to hold at this point.

Mr. White
12-20-2010, 04:45 PM
Wow. That was over quick.

I guess he didn't like Granato's question.

DX-TEX
12-20-2010, 04:45 PM
Just caught the end of it. Kubiak look upset when walking away from the podium to anyone else?

gary
12-20-2010, 04:45 PM
I feel bad for Gary he certainly lost in the video.

HoustonFrog
12-20-2010, 04:45 PM
From watching it, he almost had a grin of "who cares right now, nothing works." I think the dude is just waiting it out.

ArlingtonTexan
12-20-2010, 04:45 PM
I did just see Kubiak pick up his toys and walk away...

CloakNNNdagger
12-20-2010, 04:47 PM
Kubiak sounded like a beaten dog.

Pollardized
12-20-2010, 04:48 PM
I feel bad for Gary he certainly lost in the video.

I always feel bad for an Aggie who is down. But dadgummit Gary Kubiak did this to himself. He brought in his people, his players, he coached them, he let them fail repeatedly without repercussions. I think he is a good and admirable man, but he sucked as head coach of the Houston Texans...

Shaft75
12-20-2010, 04:48 PM
Wow. That was over quick.

I guess he didn't like Granato's question.

LOL. He never does. He displays a look of disgust when Granato has the mic.

DX-TEX
12-20-2010, 04:49 PM
Kubiak sounded like a beaten dog.



:hurrah:

ArlingtonTexan
12-20-2010, 04:50 PM
Barry Warner is trying to get him a little stirred up. Kubes politely disagrees. LOL

Warner always tries to ask a question or two with attitude. Really no need this week as Kubiak is pretty easy target to beat up on.

Jagsbch
12-20-2010, 04:51 PM
Listened to a bit driving back from lunch.

He sounds like a guy that wants to get fired.

Being a guy that wants to get fired, I can sympathize:spit:

sandmanx
12-20-2010, 04:51 PM
I feel bad for Gary he certainly lost in the video.

He had to know the team opened a big can of quit yesterday, and he still doesn't throw his players under the bus. He's a good guy, but the fact remains that he isn't head coaching material. Bob should do the right thing and go ahead and let Gary resign today.

Carr Bombed
12-20-2010, 04:52 PM
And now he has to go on 610 and do his radio show....

I bet the only thing he hates worse than Sundays is Mondays.

gary
12-20-2010, 04:52 PM
I always feel bad for an Aggie who is down. But dadgummit Gary Kubiak did this to himself. He brought in his people, his players, he coached them, he let them fail repeatedly without repercussions. I think he is a good and admirable man, but he sucked as head coach of the Houston Texans...
Right, but no matter who you bring in you just do not count on failing this much.

Carr Bombed
12-20-2010, 04:53 PM
He had to know the team opened a big can of quit yesterday, and he still doesn't throw his players under the bus. He's a good guy, but the fact remains that he isn't head coaching material. Bob should do the right thing and go ahead and let Gary resign today.

Why would Gary resign? He's got McNair on the hook, he just signed a extension last offseason. McNair is going to have to fire Kubiak if he wants to get rid of him.

DX-TEX
12-20-2010, 04:55 PM
Why would Gary resign? He's got McNair on the hook, he just signed a extension last offseason. McNair is going to have to fire Kubiak if he wants to get rid of him.

Did you see any of the press conference? Kubiak looked beat down and exhausted. Maybe its just the idea of Cowher coming but he didnt look or sound good at all.

sandmanx
12-20-2010, 04:56 PM
Why would Gary resign? He's got McNair on the hook, he just signed a extension last offseason. McNair is going to have to fire Kubiak if he wants to get rid of him.

By that I mean McNair give Gary the option to resign and still pay him out, since Bob likes things to be classy, but you're right though, Bob will probably have to fire him.

J_R
12-20-2010, 04:57 PM
Kubiak presser:

You hoped to make the playoffs. How bad do you feel?

DIsappointing. Had good team coming out of TC. Knew about tough schedule, Missed key players early but we weathered that. Very tough since 4-2 start. Still got a lot to play for.

What do you play for?

Same thing you play for every week. Pride. You got a job in the NFL. Should not change how we do our job.

Worried now about your job?

Answer it the same as I have before. (Not worried about my job)

What about Bob?

Like I told you's, Bob can say what he wants but he wants us to win games.

[Missed question]

Never with Bob by myself. Always Cal, Rick, Bob and myself. We review the team and where its at.

What did you think of Smith where he mentioned D didnt have each others back. Is that the case? Is that an issue?

Thats guys in the heat of the battle. If you look at the play, you'd see why he is mad. He is upset. One teammate trying to keep him calm. Antonio very emotional young man. Doesnt surprise me.

He said a guy doesnt have his back?

I cant answer questions for him. Hes a great teammate. He'd have to answer.

Given first half struggles, what is different preparing wise?

Game plan wise, same thing for 5 years now. Couple years ago, great first Q team and bad 3rd Q team. Always searching for perfection in this buisness. Not one area. All areas. When you give up 3 TDs, you wont play well as a team. Team didnt play well. We've been outscored 3:1 in football games so you'll be down for whatever reason. We're searching. We'll keep searching.

When your down, how does it change?

Throws your gameplan out the window real fast. You get down 21, your in hurry up mode and one personnel(whatever that personnel is).

With injuries Schaub has had, do you plan to start Dan or Matt?

No, if Matt can go he'll go. He is beat up but he'll go.

Would you like to evaluate other guys in some fashion?

Id like to but we got a game to win. If he's(Matt) available he'll play.

Arian forced out with back spasms?

No, ankle. Know nothing about the back spasms.

Code about not angling for another job?

What are you talking about?

Bill Cowher said he likes the Texans.

Hes a damn good coach. Dont know what your asking me.

Isnt there a code?

I dont know. I have no idea.

Looks like Matt is drifting this year. Whats going on there?

I would drift too. Protection not good enough yesterday.

Ive seen more enthusiasm at a funeral, where is the leadership? These guys are saying 57 more minutes and we're out of here.

I dont feel that. Games have started a lot like yesterday. A feeling of "Oh no, not again". I would disagree.

4th and 8th first series, how does Wilson get lost?

We pressured them. They had max protect. He gotta cover better but we gotta get better pressure.

What did you do different?

Didnt work so doesnt matter.

Do you get the "Oh no, not again" feeling?

I dont want to but you better do something when down 21-0. For me, I gotta find out how to get some snaps. We had a chance to get back in it but...ongoing thing. We're battling through it.

How do you view the D now?

We moved Frank down, are playing a lot of guys. D line has some new faces. Bottom line gotta play better.

Darryl suited better at the MLB? Not sure where he is suited best for but he is one of the best we got so he got to be out there.

Rest of ST, is there anyway to approach it?

No. Did not punt well. Covering hurt us. Penalties too. We're playing some starters there. It has been tough on Joe. Revolving door of who is available but part of the game.

5-7 last 3 years. Anything different?

No. I told them today, if I had a question about that, I'll tell them. We had guys playing hard and doing good things but sloppy in the first that it couldnt be overcome. Offensively up front, didnt play well.

Playing slow, is that giving best effort?

We looked slow and tired. They werent trying to go slow.

Marcus
12-20-2010, 04:59 PM
He already has a job waiting for him as an offensive coordinator with some team, just like Capers had a defensive job lined up for him.

They are not going screw that up by throwing players under the bus, or making some headline by being baited by some dipshit local reporter.

Just maintain your poise, stay classy, and play out the string.

DX-TEX
12-20-2010, 05:00 PM
Code about not angling for another job?

What are you talking about?

Bill Cowher said he likes the Texans.

Hes a damn good coach. Dont know what your asking me.

Isnt there a code?

I dont know. I have no idea.


Was this really asked??

sandmanx
12-20-2010, 05:02 PM
Was this really asked??

Jerome Solomon asked it.

Mr. White
12-20-2010, 05:03 PM
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DX-TEX
12-20-2010, 05:03 PM
Jerome Solomon asked it.

:hurrah::smiliedance::texanbill:

datchapin
12-20-2010, 05:19 PM
Jerome Solomon asked it.

That was really classless. Considering Cowher has stated many times he won't even talk about future possibilities until the season is over, what Solomon asked was irresponsible. Code, really? Stupid, guy should be fired. I can understand wanting to ask tough questions, but the guy crossed the line with those questions.

sandmanx
12-20-2010, 05:22 PM
That was really classless. Considering Cowher has stated many times he won't even talk about future possibilities until the season is over, what Solomon asked was irresponsible. Code, really? Stupid, guy should be fired. I can understand wanting to ask tough questions, but the guy crossed the line with those questions.

I agree. I never liked Solomon to begin with, and to ask that question was unprofessional. It's also a report 'from a source' and not even from Cowher himself. Maybe Cowher did say it to someone, but my guess is that he never meant for that to get out if it was the case, and it's silly to ask that question when Cowher didn't break any 'code' since it didn't come from his mouth directly to a reporter.

TheCD
12-20-2010, 05:23 PM
Throws your gameplan out the window real fast. You get down 21, your in hurry up mode and one personnel(whatever that personnel is).

This is typically a 1 RB allignment.



Would you like to evaluate other guys in some fashion?

Id like to but we got a game to win. If he's(Matt) available he'll play.

This tells me everything I need to know. A coach whose job is safe will not say he would like to evaluate guys but can't because he has to win now.


Code about not angling for another job?

What are you talking about?

Bill Cowher said he likes the Texans.

Hes a damn good coach. Dont know what your asking me.

Isnt there a code?

I dont know. I have no idea.

I didn't watch the video, so wtf is Solomon (sp?) saying here? I get he's trying to talk about the Cowher rumors, but reading it sounds like he's drunk off his ass and thinks he's making perfect sense (I've done that several times in my life to know).

DX-TEX
12-20-2010, 05:24 PM
That was really classless. Considering Cowher has stated many times he won't even talk about future possibilities until the season is over, what Solomon asked was irresponsible. Code, really? Stupid, guy should be fired. I can understand wanting to ask tough questions, but the guy crossed the line with those questions.

Now that the excitement of someone finally asking tough questions has worn off I agree bwith you. Guy already looked beaten down during the conference and I almost feel bad for him. Still want him gone though....

DX-TEX
12-20-2010, 05:27 PM
Here is some more:

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/fb/texansfront/7347829.html

Kubiak declined to comment on speculation that he’s going to be fired but said he hasn’t changed his feelings in that he’s more worried about his assistant coaches and players.

Starting three weeks ago, there were reports that former Steelers coach Bill Cowher has the Texans on his list of potential teams he’d like to coach. Cowher hasn’t confirmed or denied it publicly.

“I don’t know anything about that,” Kubiak said.

Linebacker Brian Cushing was asked if he thought Cowher could help the defense.

“Gary Kubiak and (defensive coordinator) Frank Bush are my coaches, and they’re the only ones I listen to,” Cushing said.

gary
12-20-2010, 05:28 PM
Gary should have said, look here you jacknut there is not any stinking code. You talk out of your butthole sometimes.

Andrew6
12-20-2010, 05:29 PM
Linebacker Brian Cushing was asked if he thought Cowher could help the defense.

“Gary Kubiak and (defensive coordinator) Frank Bush are my coaches, and they’re the only ones I listen to,” Cushing said.

Good answer

CloakNNNdagger
12-20-2010, 05:33 PM
That was really classless. Considering Cowher has stated many times he won't even talk about future possibilities until the season is over, what Solomon asked was irresponsible. Code, really? Stupid, guy should be fired. I can understand wanting to ask tough questions, but the guy crossed the line with those questions.

That was as tasteless a "Jock Shock" interview tactic as I've ever experienced. Kubiak's response diffused his sorry ass.

gary
12-20-2010, 05:36 PM
Gary should have said, look here you jacknut there is not any stinking code. You talk out of your butthole sometimes.I should have 99 percent of the time. What an asshat.

texanchris
12-20-2010, 05:36 PM
did any one hear him on 610? i missed the press conference and his appearance on 610

sandmanx
12-20-2010, 05:39 PM
did any one hear him on 610? i missed the press conference and his appearance on 610

610 played his press conference live. His show starts at 5:00pm.

Dishman
12-20-2010, 05:43 PM
Here is some more:

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/fb/texansfront/7347829.html


Liked how Cushing responded there. The Cowher talk really does seem out of line. The Chron employs some pretty lame writers.

IDEXAN
12-20-2010, 05:49 PM
Why would Gary resign? He's got McNair on the hook, he just signed a extension last offseason. McNair is going to have to fire Kubiak if he wants to get rid of him.
Exactly. Garys not doing his job, but he's still gonna get a multi-year, multi-million dollar payday anyway if McNair cans him, so why would Kubiak voluntarily walk away from all of that ? And already you've got to know Kubiaks got millions and millions in liquid assets stashed away, so I don't really feel too sorry for him. Not like I feel for a lot of people (including me), who've been let go in the past with maybe a couple weeks pay comin (if that), nothin in the bank, and no idea where I'd be working next ? I can only dream about having Kubiaks problems.
But you know what, I'm still not convinced that Kubiak loses his job even if he finishes 5-11 ?

Wolf
12-20-2010, 05:59 PM
That was as tasteless a "Jock Shock" interview tactic as I've ever experienced. Kubiak's response diffused his sorry ass.

Yep, when I read the questions, thought the same thing. I can see why the Texans normally don't give the Houston media info.

Double Barrel
12-20-2010, 06:56 PM
While seemingly classless by Solomon, this is nothing compared to the weekly grilling that coaches in New York or Philly have to hear. Kubiak would probably just skip to the chase and go into a fetal position in some of the tougher media markets.

Brisco_County
12-20-2010, 07:25 PM
Code about not angling for another job?

What are you talking about?

Bill Cowher said he likes the Texans.

Hes a damn good coach. Dont know what your asking me.

Isnt there a code?

I dont know. I have no idea.

This is local media trying to run a man out of town.

While seemingly classless by Solomon, this is nothing compared to the weekly grilling that coaches in New York or Philly have to hear. Kubiak would probably just skip to the chase and go into a fetal position in some of the tougher media markets.

True.

I won't defend Solomon, but Houston media has been more than fair after five years.

Wolf
12-20-2010, 08:09 PM
Well Kubiak didn't lie about not knowing about back spasms with Foster.

NFL .com is reporting spasms in the glute

(kinda sarcasm because Kubiak could have said that it wasn't back,but glute)

houstonspartan
12-20-2010, 11:33 PM
Sorry guys, but the media here has been more than genteel with Kubiak during his time here. Those questions were tough, and FAIR.

I just saw Jerome Soloman's question on tv, and thought his original question was fair. I thought his follow-up "code" question was a bit of a cheap shot and unnecessary, but oh well.

Kubiak has earned his very, very hot seat.

gary
12-20-2010, 11:38 PM
Sorry guys, but the media here has been more than genteel with Kubiak during his time here. Those questions were tough, and FAIR.

I just saw Jerome Soloman's question on tv, and thought his original question was fair. I thought his follow-up "code" question was a bit of a cheap shot and unnecessary, but oh well.

Kubiak has earned his very, very hot seat.
And he is angry you can tell as he should be.

texansdrummer
12-21-2010, 12:01 AM
I see nothing wrong with the questioning. If he were in any number of other markets, it could be far worse (I'll admit....I've typically been a Kubiak supporter, FYI).

He's probably not going to be fired, and will be forced to replace the defensive staff.

Having said that, if Cowher wants to come in, I'm all for it. Otherwise, I'd honestly let him go one more year on a REALLY tight leash. You gotta consider what's available out there and changes could upend your entire system. I think Cowher is more than smart enough to look at what's positive and not rebuild for the sake of rebuilding. This situation is FAR from what Kubes took over, IMO. With even a decent defense, our offense would arguably be even more effective. It's really difficult to be required to score 28+ points to win every game.

houstonspartan
12-21-2010, 12:28 AM
I see nothing wrong with the questioning. If he were in any number of other markets, it could be far worse (I'll admit....I've typically been a Kubiak supporter, FYI).

He's probably not going to be fired, and will be forced to replace the defensive staff.

Having said that, if Cowher wants to come in, I'm all for it. Otherwise, I'd honestly let him go one more year on a REALLY tight leash. You gotta consider what's available out there and changes could upend your entire system. I think Cowher is more than smart enough to look at what's positive and not rebuild for the sake of rebuilding. This situation is FAR from what Kubes took over, IMO. With even a decent defense, our offense would arguably be even more effective. It's really difficult to be required to score 28+ points to win every game.

Not to re-hash the "Fire Kubiak" debate too much, but a question: What's considered a "tight leash" going into next year? He was on a tight leash this year. If we give him one more year, on a "tight leash", will we fire him in the middle of the season if we tank again?

At this point, this isn't about personel and scheme. This is about flat-out leadership. The guy is a really, really poor leader.

Bob Allen asked him if he was worried about his job status. Kubiak responded that he wasn't, that he was more worried about the people he hired, and how a change would affect their careers.

But here's the thing: He has enabled his people so much, that many of their careers are likely ruined. What do you think the odds of Frank Bush ever becoming a defensive coordator again are? He'll get a job as a line coach somewhere, and that's about it.

Leaders let people do their jobs, but they don't enable bad behavior. They are fair, but they also hold people responsible. That's the real issue here.

Mr. White
12-21-2010, 12:49 AM
Tough shit if Gary didn't like the question. You guys are talking about NY and Philly writers, but Dallas writers are pretty quick to call a guy out as well. They try to give a guy a shot to the junk every time they ask a question.

Usually the Dallas coaches usually already know what's been written or said about them on the radio, so they're ready for the inevitable shot to the junk.

Bush league questions go with the territory. If you make more than a million per year and part of your job is getting your balls busted by the local writers, you don't have a whole lot to ***** about.

dtran04
12-21-2010, 02:45 AM
From Solomon's article, it sounded like he wasn't the one who asked the Cowher questions. Otherwise, he just wrote an article bashing himself.

BetaV1
12-21-2010, 06:55 AM
Gotta say, I give Kubes a lot of respect for the way he handles this press conference and some of the questions. In particular, the question regarding Cowher's comments about basically wanting Kubiak's job. As a reporter, that question was out of line and holds no real value. A question is suppose to draw an answer to clarify an issue that can do either way; everyone knows Kubiak will be upset about hearing that, so why does the question even belong?

Many of the other questions were spot on. Kubes was drilled. I know a lot of people are probably hoping for a Dennis Green/Herm Edwards meltdown, but that's likely not going to happen. He could've easily thrown Antonio Smith under the bus, but did not. To me, this press conference shows that Kubiak still has class.

Note: I'm not on the sunshine crew. Still would like to see Kubes go.

Señor Stan
12-21-2010, 07:15 AM
That was as tasteless a "Jock Shock" interview tactic as I've ever experienced. Kubiak's response diffused his sorry ass.

After reading today's article by Solomon, it's clear that he asked the question solely to get fodder for an article he already intended to write. Classless.

Spineless too, because he doesn't admit that he is the one that asked the question in the press conference.

Old School
12-21-2010, 07:27 AM
Gotta say, I give Kubes a lot of respect for the way he handles this press conference and some of the questions. In particular, the question regarding Cowher's comments about basically wanting Kubiak's job. As a reporter, that question was out of line and holds no real value. A question is suppose to draw an answer to clarify an issue that can do either way; everyone knows Kubiak will be upset about hearing that, so why does the question even belong?

Many of the other questions were spot on. Kubes was drilled. I know a lot of people are probably hoping for a Dennis Green/Herm Edwards meltdown, but that's likely not going to happen. He could've easily thrown Antonio Smith under the bus, but did not. To me, this press conference shows that Kubiak still has class.

Note: I'm not on the sunshine crew. Still would like to see Kubes go.

I agree completely with the UNbolded. As far as the bolded statement is concerned, it is sad that you have to have a disclaimer these days to keep from getting flamed. Rep your way

scourge
12-21-2010, 10:08 AM
From Solomon's article, it sounded like he wasn't the one who asked the Cowher questions. Otherwise, he just wrote an article bashing himself.

I'm pretty sure it was him. Here's the article, though. (http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/solomon/7348363.html)

He does act like it wasn't him, but I am almost certain he was the one. I also find it extremely odd that I read this article last night shortly after he posted it, and I am positive that it has been altered from what it had originally said. In the first one it was far more obvious that he was the guy asking.

I think it was classless, but DB has a good point. In places like NY and Philly this would be no big deal. I also find it intriguing that Cowher hasn't said anything about this yet. Another thing that is just as amusing is something that Jerome brought up. Uncle Bob hasn't made a statement, either. :thinking:

**edit**
One more thing about Solomon's article...
When told word leaked over the weekend that Cowher, who retired after winning the Super Bowl in 2006, is interested in a return to coaching and lists Houston as one of the top three teams he would like to coach, current Texans head coach Gary Kubiak took the high road.

Cowher won the Super Bowl in 2005. Went 8-8 in 2006 when he retired.

BetaV1
12-21-2010, 10:42 AM
I'm pretty sure it was him. Here's the article, though. (http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/solomon/7348363.html)
**edit**
One more thing about Solomon's article...


Cowher won the Super Bowl in 2005. Went 8-8 in 2006 when he retired.

Hate to be a picky about details here, but Solomon is actually correct: Superbowl XL between the Steelers and Seahawks was held on February 5, 2006. Despite the fact that the season started in 2005 is irrelevant to the date of which the Lombardi was actually won. If you ordered something in the mail on December 31, 2010, but don't get it in the mail until January 2, 2011, it means that you got your item in 2011, not 2010.

TheCD
12-21-2010, 10:44 AM
Hate to be a picky about details here, but Solomon is actually correct: Superbowl XL between the Steelers and Seahawks was held on February 5, 2006.

I think his point here is that Solomon states that Cowher retired after winning the Super Bowl, which he did not.

Double Barrel
12-21-2010, 10:45 AM
My grandmother had a beloved dog that she used to keep on a tight leash. He jumped the fence one day and hung himself by that leash. Sad story.

2010 season is that fence for Kubiak, IMO. Sad story, but it is what it is. Giving the man another chance is Einstein's insanity, and Double Barrel's definition of inept.

BetaV1
12-21-2010, 10:46 AM
I think his point here is that Solomon states that Cowher retired after winning the Super Bowl, which he did not.

Ah, then yes that is correct and my mistake. :)

scourge
12-21-2010, 10:51 AM
My grandmother had a beloved dog that she used to keep on a tight leash. He jumped the fence one day and hung himself by that leash. Sad story.

2010 season is that fence for Kubiak, IMO. Sad story, but it is what it is. Giving the man another chance is Einstein's insanity, and Double Barrel's definition of inept.

I believe this has happened to multiple dogs, and it is a very sad to see. That, or I had heard about your grandmothers dog at some point. Seemed like I had heard that several years back.

Lucky
12-21-2010, 10:54 AM
Hate to be a picky about details here, but Solomon is actually correct: Superbowl XL between the Steelers and Seahawks was held on February 5, 2006.
Solomon said that Cowher left after he won the Super Bowl in 2006. Cowher actually left after the 2006 season, and resigned in January, 2007.

houstonspartan
12-21-2010, 11:22 AM
My grandmother had a beloved dog that she used to keep on a tight leash. He jumped the fence one day and hung himself by that leash. Sad story.

2010 season is that fence for Kubiak, IMO. Sad story, but it is what it is. Giving the man another chance is Einstein's insanity, and Double Barrel's definition of inept.

Happened to a dog I had was a kid. I can still see his body hanging there. I'm still tramautized to this sad. Sad story.

Marcus
12-21-2010, 11:57 AM
I know I'm probably late to the party here, but I just got through reading Solomon's editorial.

Wasn't he the one who asked Kubiak the question about Cowher? And then he turns around and writes this article, saying Kubiak "must have been steaming inside when somebody asked him a question about Cowher".

I'm sorry. That goes way beyond classless. I don't care what the writers in Philly and New York do . . . if I was Kubiak today . . . I'd hunt Solomon down like a dog, and cold-**** that POS.

The1ApplePie
12-21-2010, 12:49 PM
I think his point here is that Solomon states that Cowher retired after winning the Super Bowl, which he did not.

Technically, it could be correct, since he retired a few years after, but still "after" winning the Super Bowl. But yeah, it is worded wrong.

I have been under the impression that the sport's page has very little editing at all. Most articles are filled with small errors that show little or no oversight.

The Chorn canned most of its copy editors years ago, so its no suprise.

Also, Solomon is a douche for asking that question, then writing this article.

GP
12-21-2010, 01:22 PM
If Solomon were to stick a knee out and trip Jacoby Jones before he made a TD, and it lost us the game, I would cheer Solomon for helping us secure Kubiak's dismissal.

I don't think what Solomon did was wrong. He's not a "journalist." Journalists write stories and present the facts of the story without letting bias creep into the story. Just the facts, in other words. An Op/Ed "opinion, editorial" guy, such as Solomon, is in it as an entertainment writer.

How he can be seen as being a bad guy for doing the "shock jock" thing is puzzling to me. If anything, he's showing he's not afraid of Gary Kubiak.

Look, the walls are tumbling down at Reliant. McNair needs to know that everyone, from the fans to the local media, smell blood in the water and the frenzy is going to happen as long as Gary Kubiak is head coach.

The Gary Kubiak experiment stopped the bleeding of Capers/Casserly. It clotted the wound, so to speak. But it's time for the next step. Time to rehab fully, and to get out of the hospital and back to the house.

Unless we're afraid of life away from the hospital. Because being able to push that button and have a nurse come bring you a Sprite and a bendy-straw has become a pretty cozy setup.

We have a hospital mentality, I'm afraid. It's nice being waited upon, but we've lost touch with the reality that we're well enough to go back into the wild and survive on our own.

TheCD
12-21-2010, 02:00 PM
How he can be seen as being a bad guy for doing the "shock jock" thing is puzzling to me. If anything, he's showing he's not afraid of Gary Kubiak.

I think the the that makes him look like a bad guy is that he did it and then blamed it on someone else.

Kind of like when I was 8 and would do something stupid and get a window broken and blame it on someone else (even though I have no siblings and no one else was home).

scourge
12-21-2010, 03:20 PM
If Solomon were to stick a knee out and trip Jacoby Jones before he made a TD, and it lost us the game, I would cheer Solomon for helping us secure Kubiak's dismissal.
I don't think what Solomon did was wrong. He's not a "journalist." Journalists write stories and present the facts of the story without letting bias creep into the story. Just the facts, in other words. An Op/Ed "opinion, editorial" guy, such as Solomon, is in it as an entertainment writer.

How he can be seen as being a bad guy for doing the "shock jock" thing is puzzling to me. If anything, he's showing he's not afraid of Gary Kubiak.
Look, the walls are tumbling down at Reliant. McNair needs to know that everyone, from the fans to the local media, smell blood in the water and the frenzy is going to happen as long as Gary Kubiak is head coach.

The Gary Kubiak experiment stopped the bleeding of Capers/Casserly. It clotted the wound, so to speak. But it's time for the next step. Time to rehab fully, and to get out of the hospital and back to the house.

Unless we're afraid of life away from the hospital. Because being able to push that button and have a nurse come bring you a Sprite and a bendy-straw has become a pretty cozy setup.

We have a hospital mentality, I'm afraid. It's nice being waited upon, but we've lost touch with the reality that we're well enough to go back into the wild and survive on our own.

I would guess you also approved of the reporter in Detroit a few years back asking Marinelli if his daughter should have married a better DC.

Not to mention your Solomon/Jones comment shows how pathetically classless you are.

Marcus
12-21-2010, 04:33 PM
I think the the that makes him look like a bad guy is that he did it and then blamed it on someone else.

I'm curious, GP. Is there something about the above quote that you can't quite comprehend? Or is it that you've finally revealed your true colors?

burro
12-21-2010, 04:57 PM
"What did you do differently?"
"uhhh....I can't tell you, it didn't work so it doesn't really matter."

That was pretty fail on Gary's part. Kubiak looks exhausted and in over his head. I think even Kubiak wants to see Kubiak gone, based on what I saw there.

Blake
12-22-2010, 10:40 AM
When told word leaked over the weekend that Cowher, who retired after winning the Super Bowl in 2006, is interested in a return to coaching and lists Houston as one of the top three teams he would like to coach, current Texans head coach Gary Kubiak took the high road.
“Well, he’s a damn good coach,” Kubiak said Monday afternoon. “I can’t do nothing about what he says.”

Was this really asked??

Jerome Solomon asked it.

So Solomon asked Kubiak about Cowher, then has the balls to write another article titled "What's with this Cowher love affair?"

What an asshole.

LINK (http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/solomon/7348363.html)

Mr. White
12-22-2010, 11:09 AM
I heard the question asked at the press conference. It didn't really sound to me like Solomon was trying to bait Kubiak, even though Kubiak got pissed off at the question.

Solomon had an agenda when he asked the question. It just isn't the agenda everyone seems to think it is.

He probably already had an article ready to go about Cowher breaking "the code." He just wanted a quote from Kubiak about it.

GP
12-22-2010, 01:32 PM
I would guess you also approved of the reporter in Detroit a few years back asking Marinelli if his daughter should have married a better DC.

Not to mention your Solomon/Jones comment shows how pathetically classless you are.

Uh, family stuff is off-limits.

Solomon asked a question regarding a football-related topic.

Yet you're trying to dress me down by making an apples-to-oranges comparison? Who is the classless one now?

Boo-hoo, boo-hoo! Solomon asked a provocative question! :pansies:

GP
12-22-2010, 01:39 PM
I think the the that makes him look like a bad guy is that he did it and then blamed it on someone else.

Kind of like when I was 8 and would do something stupid and get a window broken and blame it on someone else (even though I have no siblings and no one else was home).

How do YOU know that Solomon was trying to blame someone else?

Has anyone used FREE-THINKING skills around here? Just me? Huh?

What if Solomon was being facetious? Do you know what that is? It's when you play coy, acting as if you don't know the answer but yet you really do.

Should he have put quotes around "someone" to spell it out for you guys?

Do you think he's THAT dense that he would pull such a stunt, knowing full well that people read the transcript or watch the presser on the Internet and would know SOLOMON was the one who asked the question?

Knee-jerking goes both ways, and some people on here are trying to make Solomon look like a bad guy over what is essentially a VERY routine type of question-answer scenario in today's realm of sports entertainment. GASP! What a crude thing for him to do! LOL. Bob McNair's culture has seeped down, even into the message boards. Amazing.

Blake
12-22-2010, 01:56 PM
How do YOU know that Solomon was trying to blame someone else?

Has anyone used FREE-THINKING skills around here? Just me? Huh?

What if Solomon was being facetious? Do you know what that is? It's when you play coy, acting as if you don't know the answer but yet you really do.

Should he have put quotes around "someone" to spell it out for you guys?

Do you think he's THAT dense that he would pull such a stunt, knowing full well that people read the transcript or watch the presser on the Internet and would know SOLOMON was the one who asked the question?

Knee-jerking goes both ways, and some people on here are trying to make Solomon look like a bad guy over what is essentially a VERY routine type of question-answer scenario in today's realm of sports entertainment. GASP! What a crude thing for him to do! LOL. Bob McNair's culture has seeped down, even into the message boards. Amazing.

Anyone know what the record is for insulting the forum members in one post?

scourge
12-22-2010, 11:29 PM
Uh, family stuff is off-limits.

Solomon asked a question regarding a football-related topic.

Yet you're trying to dress me down by making an apples-to-oranges comparison? Who is the classless one now?

Boo-hoo, boo-hoo! Solomon asked a provocative question! :pansies:


The question that was asked about Marinelli's daughter was football-related because her husband was his DC at the time.



Who is the classless one now?

....

If Solomon were to stick a knee out and trip Jacoby Jones before he made a TD, and it lost us the game, I would cheer Solomon for helping us secure Kubiak's dismissal.



That would still be you...

GP
12-22-2010, 11:37 PM
The question that was asked about Marinelli's daughter was football-related because her husband was his DC at the time.

How was Solomon "out-of-bounds" for asking what he asked?

Let's try and keep it about the topic at-hand.

Answer: He didn't do a damn thing wrong. You want something to piss and moan about? How about the team, its players, and its coaches?

Because last time I checked, Solomon can't help or hurt us. In fact, God Bless Solomon for doing what I would have loved to have been able to do.

If that paints me as a bad person, then so be it. Gary Kubiak has had meat pitches thrown his way for 5 damn years here, until now. And he has the gall to smirk and throw daggers with his eyes when op/ed writers like Solomon dare to stray off the reservation? LOL. Okie dokie...

scourge
12-23-2010, 01:53 AM
How was Solomon "out-of-bounds" for asking what he asked?

Let's try and keep it about the topic at-hand.

Answer: He didn't do a damn thing wrong. You want something to piss and moan about? How about the team, its players, and its coaches?

Because last time I checked, Solomon can't help or hurt us. In fact, God Bless Solomon for doing what I would have loved to have been able to do.

If that paints me as a bad person, then so be it. Gary Kubiak has had meat pitches thrown his way for 5 damn years here, until now. And he has the gall to smirk and throw daggers with his eyes when op/ed writers like Solomon dare to stray off the reservation? LOL. Okie dokie...

wow... still clueless. What really "paints you as a bad person" is the Solomon/Jones comment.