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Goatcheese
12-19-2010, 02:14 PM
Nice backside contain Stupiak.

Mr. Texan
12-19-2010, 02:15 PM
cushing would have caught cj if he had his roids

fiasco west
12-19-2010, 02:15 PM
Must be fun to play against this defense!

Mr teX
12-19-2010, 02:15 PM
Where are all those "mario is overated" people? We've been gashed in the run game today.....on the edge no less right where he'd be.

gary
12-19-2010, 02:15 PM
Ward is to blame for the Shaub sack not Eric.

Thorn
12-19-2010, 02:15 PM
That should make it official. This season is over.

TexansBlood
12-19-2010, 02:16 PM
Time to play Black Ops.


If anybody wants to play on ps3 add me DeathByVenom49.

burro
12-19-2010, 02:16 PM
Nice backside contain Stupiak.

Dude, seriously, STFU. We get it. You think it's the players.

Mr teX
12-19-2010, 02:16 PM
Its officially COD black ops time...

fiasco west
12-19-2010, 02:16 PM
Where are all those "mario is overated" people? We've been gashed in the run game today.....on the edge no less right where he'd be.

Does Mario get 2 sacks a game? Thought so, he fails.

Wolf
12-19-2010, 02:17 PM
Well there is the 30+ points given up by the defense against the high powered tack offense

Dishman
12-19-2010, 02:17 PM
Nice backside contain Stupiak.

Those are his boys. If they suck when we he do something about replacing them?

texanchris
12-19-2010, 02:17 PM
down by 3 scores going into the fourth, here comes our comeback...

TexCanada
12-19-2010, 02:17 PM
I think the fat lady is getting the ole pipes warmed up

Goatcheese
12-19-2010, 02:17 PM
Dude, seriously, STFU. We get it. You think it's the players.

You have no idea how much I'm enjoying it. I've put up with soapers doing the exact same thing for years and now you're getting it back and can't stand it.

Rage some more!

tedr
12-19-2010, 02:17 PM
No comeback today...of course the sunshine club will say if we had only had Mario, things would have been different...

DexmanC
12-19-2010, 02:17 PM
Dude, seriously, STFU. We get it. You think it's the players.

The Texans are the only team expected to play well, in spite of having
a sorry coaching staff. Didn't you get the memo?

Ryan
12-19-2010, 02:17 PM
Can someone explain the Innegan to me? I know we all hate him but i don't see how that is an insult.

Big Lou
12-19-2010, 02:17 PM
Oh the agony of bieng a Texans Fan. Can we change the name of the team until they actually represent the state of Texas a little better.

Wolf
12-19-2010, 02:18 PM
Does Mario get 2 sacks a game? Thought so, he fails.

Doesn't he have a herniated disk that he has played with this season?

hradhak
12-19-2010, 02:18 PM
well there's the magic 30. once a team gets that we're done.

fiasco west
12-19-2010, 02:18 PM
LOL are the Titans trying to kick it to Slaton? What a return threat!

Pantherstang84
12-19-2010, 02:19 PM
Dude, seriously, STFU. We get it. You think it's the players.

Ignore list is a great feature fwiw. They are just trying to get under your skin.

Peldon
12-19-2010, 02:19 PM
Can someone explain the Innegan to me? I know we all hate him but i don't see how that is an insult.

Andre beat the F out of him.

FirstTexansFan
12-19-2010, 02:19 PM
Can someone explain the Innegan to me? I know we all hate him but i don't see how that is an insult.

They call him Innegan because AJ knocked the "F" out of him in the last game.

gary
12-19-2010, 02:19 PM
Texans need a quick strike.

michaelm
12-19-2010, 02:19 PM
OK, now this is more like it. We're finally down by 21 in the second half...


U, U, D, D, L, R, L, R, A, B, Select, Start

Comeback Fail Combo!

burro
12-19-2010, 02:19 PM
You have no idea how much I'm enjoying it. I've put up with soapers doing the exact same thing for years and now you're getting it back and can't stand it.

Rage some more!

We're getting it back? Is this a personal vendetta you're on or something? The difference between soapers and yourself is that there are a lot of us leaving comments to our effect. You're just one guy, which makes it borderline spam.

TheMatrix31
12-19-2010, 02:19 PM
Nice blocking, guy Kubiak put on the field...

Whatever happened to holding players accountable? It shouldn't only be coaches needing to be held accountable.

Ghostform
12-19-2010, 02:20 PM
Shouldnt expect to win consistently until the playoffs are 100% out of reach... Thats what Kubiak 101 has taught us.

fiasco west
12-19-2010, 02:20 PM
Doesn't he have a herniated disk that he has played with this season?

Was sarcasm, I think Mario is a beast.

FirstTexansFan
12-19-2010, 02:20 PM
Whatever happened to holding players accountable?

That would be the coaches job correct? :)

disaacks3
12-19-2010, 02:20 PM
Let's see if the Offense fully wakes up now...we're down three scores in the second half.....AGAIN.

Ryan
12-19-2010, 02:21 PM
They call him Innegan because AJ knocked the "F" out of him in the last game.


lol oh i see. Makes sense. :kitten:

hradhak
12-19-2010, 02:21 PM
man as much as it pains me to say, i'm getting to the point where I want to blow games so we get a better draft position.

Wolf
12-19-2010, 02:21 PM
Can someone explain the Innegan to me? I know we all hate him but i don't see how that is an insult.
http://www.puff.com/forums/vb/attachments/sports-forum/53472d1291146033-andre-johnson-vs-courtland-innegan-157074_1656231016427_1556651224_1505394_5500723_n. jpg

JB
12-19-2010, 02:22 PM
We're getting it back? Is this a personal vendetta you're on or something? The difference between soapers and yourself is that there are a lot of us leaving comments to our effect. You're just one guy, which makes it borderline spam.

What? Might makes right?

Goatcheese
12-19-2010, 02:22 PM
We're getting it back? Is this a personal vendetta you're on or something? The difference between soapers and yourself is that there are a lot of us leaving comments to our effect. You're just one guy, which makes it borderline spam.

It's only a majority because soapers keep running off the intelligent people.

Dishman
12-19-2010, 02:22 PM
Whatever happened to holding players accountable? It shouldn't only be coaches needing to be held accountable.

SO when will the coaching staff do that?

Oh that's right - they won't.

Wolf
12-19-2010, 02:22 PM
Was sarcasm, I think Mario is a beast.

Oh :facepalm: <----- wolf

Mr. Texan
12-19-2010, 02:23 PM
man as much as it pains me to say, i'm getting to the point where I want to blow games so we get a better draft position.

http://sports.ap.org/college-football/content/preview/2010/20100901/23/521e139cbea93f0ed50e6a706700adfd.jpg

FirstTexansFan
12-19-2010, 02:23 PM
What? Might makes right?

:lol:

Texan4Ever
12-19-2010, 02:23 PM
This defense is what kills us. If we only had a defense that could stop someone, our record would be much better then what it is. After this season, I don't care what we have to do, we need to get guys that play defense and get a better DC because Bush is NOT the answer.

kiwitexansfan
12-19-2010, 02:23 PM
It's only a majority because soapers keep running off the intelligent people.

There is truth in this. I know a number of posters who don't come round much anymore because of the haterade on the board.

I don't come on as often for this reason too.

TexCanada
12-19-2010, 02:24 PM
I have missed a lot of the game today because of bad links. Did Mario play?

mussop
12-19-2010, 02:24 PM
You have no idea how much I'm enjoying it. I've put up with soapers doing the exact same thing for years and now you're getting it back and can't stand it.

Rage some more!

Sounds like someone has issues admitting they were wrong!

Peldon
12-19-2010, 02:24 PM
I have missed a lot of the game today because of bad links. Did Mario play?

He's on IR.

JB
12-19-2010, 02:25 PM
I have missed a lot of the game today because of bad links. Did Mario play?

No, Mario is on IR.

Ryan
12-19-2010, 02:25 PM
I have missed a lot of the game today because of bad links. Did Mario play?


He got IR'd.

Mr teX
12-19-2010, 02:25 PM
Whatever happened to holding players accountable? It shouldn't only be coaches needing to be held accountable.

That's what i've been telling people in here. He has been holding players accountable. He's been sitting 1 scrub & putting in another. The problem is, the guys on the bench suck worse!!

Hopefully, Mcnair holds him accountable after this game & as i've said in other threads, we can't lose. If they get blown up, it makes him look worse, if they win it'll still be a fail for the season.

TheIronDuke
12-19-2010, 02:25 PM
I have missed a lot of the game today because of bad links. Did Mario play?

He's out for the season.

fiasco west
12-19-2010, 02:25 PM
http://sports.ap.org/college-football/content/preview/2010/20100901/23/521e139cbea93f0ed50e6a706700adfd.jpg

I hope so, either that or a DT that actually can get pressure. I mean how nice would that be?

TexCanada
12-19-2010, 02:26 PM
No, Mario is on IR.

Ok, good.

Hervoyel
12-19-2010, 02:26 PM
We're getting it back? Is this a personal vendetta you're on or something? The difference between soapers and yourself is that there are a lot of us leaving comments to our effect. You're just one guy, which makes it borderline spam.

Dude, Goatcheese is an asshole. You should put him in global ignore. It makes a world of difference.

burro
12-19-2010, 02:26 PM
What? Might makes right?

No, I'm only implying that without soapers there wouldn't be much of a forum left here. At least that's the impression I get, I don't see many pro-Kubiak people around, let alone people that seem to believe it's a lack of talent that contributes to bad schemes, poor preparation, and absence of accountability. But I digress. We're all frustrated and infighting isn't going to do anyone any favors.

Doppelganger
12-19-2010, 02:26 PM
OK, now this is more like it. We're finally down by 21 in the second half...


U, U, D, D, L, R, L, R, A, B, Select, Start

Comeback Fail Combo!

Sorry dude. It only gets you 30 lives in Contra. I wish it would give us 30 defensive players!!!

Pollardized
12-19-2010, 02:27 PM
Whatever happened to holding players accountable? It shouldn't only be coaches needing to be held accountable.

I'm all for it!!!

That's what the coaches are for, holding players accountable. If players don't do their job, they need to be replaced. They also need to be coached to play a scheme that works against their opponent.

disaacks3
12-19-2010, 02:27 PM
This defense is what kills us. If we only had a defense that could stop someone, our record would be much better then what it is. After this season, I don't care what we have to do, we need to get guys that play defense and get a better DC because Bush is NOT the answer. Would that be the same Defense that has trouble scoring in the first half? The same Defense that can't protect Schaub?

This is a full team effort at suck.

fiasco west
12-19-2010, 02:27 PM
this team is done.

Goatcheese
12-19-2010, 02:27 PM
I'm actually glad Babin is having such a good year. He never got a fair shot here.

michaelm
12-19-2010, 02:28 PM
Turk=suck

Stuttgarter
12-19-2010, 02:28 PM
There were still a chance of making the play off's at the start of the day, no matter how thin the chance were, it were there. It were time to stand up and be counted, to play for pride and the badge against a side who are playing for fook all. Yet looks what's come about. You have to ask questions, does the manager still have the backing of the team, is he still able to motivate them...or is everyone just sat about waiting for the change...

Rum.

TheMatrix31
12-19-2010, 02:28 PM
There is truth in this. I know a number of posters who don't come round much anymore because of the haterade on the board.

I don't come on as often for this reason too.

And if it wasn't for the fact that this board is the most active and therefore the quickest to get news and "thought" about the team, I would have stopped after a couple weeks.

Hervoyel
12-19-2010, 02:28 PM
this team is done.

Been done. Now they're just burning in the oven and nobody in the kitchen smells smoke apparently.

Goatcheese
12-19-2010, 02:29 PM
Dude, Goatcheese is an asshole. You should put him in global ignore. It makes a world of difference.

Please do. The more soapers that ignore me the fewer stupid replies I get.

hradhak
12-19-2010, 02:29 PM
We need a new punter. He's been terrible at times, and average at best for others. Our defense can't stop anyone, especially if they start at the 40 every time

Hervoyel
12-19-2010, 02:29 PM
Turk=suck

He's kicked well for us in the past but he finally ran out of gas this year. We need another punter. Add that to the list.

Pantherstang84
12-19-2010, 02:29 PM
Been done. Now they're just burning in the oven and nobody in the kitchen smells smoke apparently.

Damn Herv you are cracking me up today.:lol:

panamamyers
12-19-2010, 02:29 PM
Schaub just has that ability to get sacked, fumble, throw an int, or otherwise make a boneheaded play at juuuust the right time.

It's uncanny really.

disaacks3
12-19-2010, 02:30 PM
I'm actually glad Babin is having such a good year. He never got a fair shot here.

Uhmm, yeah he did, he also got a shot in Seattle, KC & Philly. The Titans are his FIFTH stop.

kiwitexansfan
12-19-2010, 02:30 PM
And if it wasn't for the fact that this board is the most active and therefore the quickest to get news and "thought" about the team, I would have stopped after a couple weeks.

Pretty much, its a news stop now not a place to come and enjoy.

Not to mention I think the language and general courtesy on here has gone south too.

Sad days really.

BetaV1
12-19-2010, 02:31 PM
For the Schaub haters, I hear Palmer may be on the market in a few weeks... :kitten:

Joe Texan
12-19-2010, 02:31 PM
Whenever we got a chance to extend the season be it a small chance but a chance we step up and make sure we do not get it.

kiwitexansfan
12-19-2010, 02:32 PM
I'm actually glad Babin is having such a good year. He never got a fair shot here.

Allegedly he had a rotten attitude. I think that is part of the job description in Nashville though so I guess that makes sense.

hradhak
12-19-2010, 02:32 PM
Pretty much, its a news stop now not a place to come and enjoy.

Not to mention I think the language and general courtesy on here has gone south too.

Sad days really.

very true. i was never very active, but I come on less and less than I used to for this reason.

Stemp
12-19-2010, 02:32 PM
Game is off. I'd rather watch women's basketball than this tripe.

Pantherstang84
12-19-2010, 02:32 PM
For the Schaub haters, I hear Palmer may be on the market in a few weeks... :kitten:

I say hold off on making major player changes until the coaching gets fixed.

panamamyers
12-19-2010, 02:33 PM
For the Schaub haters, I hear Palmer may be on the market in a few weeks... :kitten:

At least the Bengals have realized that Palmer was fool's gold. Knowing our front office, it will take twice as long for the Texans to realize this with Schaub.

It's going to be an uphill climb to create a winner with him at qb.

Hervoyel
12-19-2010, 02:33 PM
Uhmm, yeah he did, he also got a shot in Seattle, KC & Philly. The Titans are his FIFTH stop.


I disagree with you on his getting a fair shot here but I do think he had to grow up and get his head straight to reach his full potential. System that fits his talents helps too.

fiasco west
12-19-2010, 02:33 PM
Whenever we got a chance to extend the season be it a small chance but a chance we step up and make sure we do not get it.

Amazing.

If the game has any meaning in the second half of the season the Texans will fail. Happens every year.

TexCanada
12-19-2010, 02:34 PM
Game is off. I'd rather watch women's basketball than this tripe.

Be careful what you wish for. I've seen women's basketball games.

Goatcheese
12-19-2010, 02:34 PM
Uhmm, yeah he did, he also got a shot in Seattle, KC & Philly. The Titans are his FIFTH stop.

No he didn't. He started his rookie year and had to drop 30 lbs and learn a new position. His 2nd year he had a major shoulder issue that he tried to play through and when he finally got healthy the last 2 game he had 4 sacks. The next year Kubiak came and we moved back to the 4-3 where he lead the team in sacks as a backup and was traded after his best preseason in '07. That's not a fair shot.

axman40
12-19-2010, 02:34 PM
Whenever we got a chance to extend the season be it a small chance but a chance we step up and make sure we do not get it.
anti clutch!

JB
12-19-2010, 02:35 PM
At least the Bengals have realized that Palmer was fool's gold. Knowing our front office, it will take twice as long for the Texans to realize this with Schaub.

It's going to be an uphill climb to create a winner with him at qb.

So where were you last year? You made none of these Schaub bashing comments before the season, nor after wk 1.

TexCanada
12-19-2010, 02:35 PM
I'm cheering for a Miami comeback against the Bills so that they can keep their coach. Gives us a better shot at Cowher :) They are only down 3 now.

hradhak
12-19-2010, 02:35 PM
Allegedly he had a rotten attitude. I think that is part of the job description in Nashville though so I guess that makes sense.

It was clearly not a lack of coaching. He went through Philly as well where if anywhere I thought he'd flourish. He's lucky that someone gave him a shot after that many stops. Most players aren't that lucky.

Dishman
12-19-2010, 02:35 PM
Pretty much, its a news stop now not a place to come and enjoy.

Not to mention I think the language and general courtesy on here has gone south too.

Sad days really.


Is it not a reflection of the product on the field? Fans are frustrated with running in place or seeing the team fall on their face.

fiasco west
12-19-2010, 02:36 PM
So where were you last year? You made none of these Schaub bashing comments before the season, nor after wk 1.

He was quiet the whole thread, popped up when Matt threw the INT then again when he fumbled.

mussop
12-19-2010, 02:36 PM
Pretty much, its a news stop now not a place to come and enjoy.

Not to mention I think the language and general courtesy on here has gone south too.

Sad days really.

When people get shitty product things aren't going to be all rainbows and butterflies.

axman40
12-19-2010, 02:36 PM
http://dirtysanchez.mysbrforum.com/photos/l/rpc9443G.jpg (http://dirtysanchez.mysbrforum.com/photos/l/rpc9443G.jpg)
She will sing when the cake is done!

hradhak
12-19-2010, 02:37 PM
Is it not a reflection of the product on the field? Fans are frustrated with running in place or seeing the team fall on their face.

True but dissenting opinions and intelligent discussion are not as welcome. We've always had garbage on the field, but we've had good discussion until these last few weeks.

TheMatrix31
12-19-2010, 02:37 PM
Let's stop quoting panawhatever.

Napa Auto Parts
12-19-2010, 02:37 PM
No he didn't. He started his rookie year and had to drop 30 lbs and learn a new position. His 2nd year he had a major shoulder issue that he tried to play through and when he finally got healthy the last 2 game he had 4 sacks. The next year Kubiak came and we moved back to the 4-3 where he lead the team in sacks as a backup and was traded after his best preseason in '07. That's not a fair shot.

So let me see If I got this right Kubiak didn't give him a shot and now he is pro bowl bound. you make a better case than anyone to get another coach in here.

disaacks3
12-19-2010, 02:38 PM
I disagree with you on his getting a fair shot here but I do think he had to grow up and get his head straight to reach his full potential. System that fits his talents helps too.

No he didn't. He started his rookie year and had to drop 30 lbs and learn a new position. His 2nd year he had a major shoulder issue that he tried to play through and when he finally got healthy the last 2 game he had 4 sacks. The next year Kubiak came and we moved back to the 4-3 where he lead the team in sacks as a backup and was traded after his best preseason in '07. That's not a fair shot.


Wah, he had to learn a new position...he's neither the first nor the last player that will be happening to. He's finally grown up and started playing like he was expected to do originally. Shame his teammate VY can't do the same. I guess he'll have to go somewhere else to get HIS "fair shot" too?

So, what are you guys' reasons that he didn't make a dent at his other 3 interim stops? :cricket:

Pantherstang84
12-19-2010, 02:38 PM
http://dirtysanchez.mysbrforum.com/photos/l/rpc9443G.jpg (http://dirtysanchez.mysbrforum.com/photos/l/rpc9443G.jpg)
She will sing when the cake is done!
Dude that is wrong unless you are into that kind of thing.

fiasco west
12-19-2010, 02:38 PM
The officials saw it, what they didn't see was was Manning or Brady obviously.

Mr. Texan
12-19-2010, 02:39 PM
what has been seen cannot be unseen

FirstTexansFan
12-19-2010, 02:39 PM
Dude that is wrong unless you are into that kind of thing.

Man, I married this girl, she can cook a mean cake :)

Hervoyel
12-19-2010, 02:39 PM
I'm not a Schaub hater but I think he has a few limitations that our coaches seemingly refuse to try and scheme around. That confuses me because with very few exceptions QB's around the league all operate with limitations. I think you can win with him but we don't put him consistently in a position to succeed. That's what I think.

Dishman
12-19-2010, 02:41 PM
True but dissenting opinions and intelligent discussion are not as welcome. We've always had garbage on the field, but we've had good discussion until these last few weeks.

I agree, but I just think things are finally "coming to a head" with this organization. 9 seasons with no playoffs. Only a single lukewarm 9-7 win season during that span.

Mr. White
12-19-2010, 02:42 PM
Great throw by Kubiak.

Great catch by Kubiak.

Mr. Texan
12-19-2010, 02:42 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcxI6Y8EDTo

for those who missed it

Goatcheese
12-19-2010, 02:43 PM
Wah, he had to learn a new position...he's neither the first nor the last player that will be happening to. He's finally grown up and started playing like he was expected to do originally. Shame his teammate VY can't do the same. I guess he'll have to go somewhere else to get HIS "fair shot" too?

So, what are you guys' reasons that he didn't make a dent at his other 3 interim stops? :cricket:

Only played in 4 games with Seattle, 2 sacks in 4 starts with KC, 2.5 sacks as a backup for 12 games in Philly where the staff were rumored to like him. Now he's in Ten and tearing it up.

I would happily have kept him over Anthony Weaver.

fiasco west
12-19-2010, 02:43 PM
I'm not a Schaub hater but I think he has a few limitations that our coaches seemingly refuse to try and scheme around. That confuses me because with very few exceptions QB's around the league all operate with limitations. I think you can win with him but we don't put him consistently in a position to succeed. That's what I think.

Man I think this goes for most of the team. It's like we don't play to our strengths or attack the other teams weaknesses. Even last week Kubes said he put Schaub in a tough spot.

Pantherstang84
12-19-2010, 02:43 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcxI6Y8EDTo

for those who missed it

I have no words.

Mr. White
12-19-2010, 02:44 PM
Is it just me or does Jeff Fisher look like Kenny Rogers today?

Dishman
12-19-2010, 02:44 PM
Great throw by Kubiak.

Great catch by Kubiak.

The Houston Kubiaks?

Joe Texan
12-19-2010, 02:45 PM
This just in: First 50,000 fans in the stadium for the Jags game get a free Barf Bag

cdollaz
12-19-2010, 02:46 PM
The announcer (not sure which one), just proves he is a dumbass.

"There is no question they should bring Kubiak back."

GTF outta here!!!

Pollardized
12-19-2010, 02:46 PM
Uh, where is Foster?

fiasco west
12-19-2010, 02:46 PM
Hmmm what happened to Foster?

Joe Texan
12-19-2010, 02:46 PM
Alright make it 70,000:spin:

CloakNNNdagger
12-19-2010, 02:47 PM
Looked like an ankle.

JB
12-19-2010, 02:47 PM
Uh, where is Foster?

Hmmm what happened to Foster?

It looked like he hurt his ankle on the last play he was in.

Joe Texan
12-19-2010, 02:48 PM
Foster is the best Running back in the league we cannot take a chance on getting him hurt

gary
12-19-2010, 02:48 PM
Is Foster injured?

Dishman
12-19-2010, 02:48 PM
Hmmm what happened to Foster?

It looked like he had the wind knocked out of him the last time he carried the ball. Seems like it could be more than that now.

CloakNNNdagger
12-19-2010, 02:49 PM
It looked like he hurt his ankle on the last play he was in.


He was limping earlier in the game.

cdollaz
12-19-2010, 02:49 PM
Foster is the best Running back in the league we cannot take a chance on getting him hurt

...for the playoff run down the stretch.

fiasco west
12-19-2010, 02:49 PM
Looked like an ankle.

Damn, there goes my best fantasy player.

TexCanada
12-19-2010, 02:49 PM
...for the playoff run down the stretch.

For next year and the rest of his career...

Texan4Ever
12-19-2010, 02:50 PM
Would that be the same Defense that has trouble scoring in the first half? The same Defense that can't protect Schaub?

This is a full team effort at suck.


No, you're right that the team as a whole has failed during this game but overall in the season, its our defense that has hampered our chances of making it to the playoffs.

As for the offensive line, WTF happened today? The tackles are getting schooled and Duane Brown looks like he's holding on for dear life to prevent the end from getting to Schaub!

axman40
12-19-2010, 02:50 PM
TD kw

BetaV1
12-19-2010, 02:50 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcxI6Y8EDTo

for those who missed it

And if that right there doesn't convince you that coaching is the problem, then nothing will.

TheMatrix31
12-19-2010, 02:51 PM
Onside this ***** like Philly just did after scoring to make it 31-17 lol.

Doppelganger
12-19-2010, 02:51 PM
Whats up with all these offsides on Tennessee?

burro
12-19-2010, 02:52 PM
woot.

Pantherstang84
12-19-2010, 02:52 PM
And if that right there doesn't convince you that coaching is the problem, then nothing will.

Absolutely.

DexmanC
12-19-2010, 02:53 PM
"They just can't seem to put a complete game together." -- Kevin Harlan

fiasco west
12-19-2010, 02:53 PM
Great onside kick, none of our guys even went for it.

TheMatrix31
12-19-2010, 02:53 PM
Looked like holding on the Titans.

Pantherstang84
12-19-2010, 02:53 PM
Oh boy! Kubiak screwed up an onside kick.

fiasco west
12-19-2010, 02:54 PM
Looked like holding on the Titans.

Yep that one guy definitely was.

axman40
12-19-2010, 02:54 PM
Great onside kick, none of our guys even went for it.
It has to go 10 yards

TexCanada
12-19-2010, 02:54 PM
Great onside kick, none of our guys even went for it.

I don't think it went 10 yards

sandmanx
12-19-2010, 02:54 PM
Great onside kick, none of our guys even went for it.

It didn't go 10 yards. It would have been illegal touching if they did go for it.

Doppelganger
12-19-2010, 02:55 PM
Great onside kick, none of our guys even went for it.

They couldn't. The kick did not travel 10 yards. The kicking team has to kick the ball at least 10 yards before they can attempt to recover.

fiasco west
12-19-2010, 02:55 PM
Nah I personally don't care, go for the ball and worry about the penalties later. If you don't get it game is over anyways.

Wolf
12-19-2010, 02:56 PM
Whats up with all these offsides on Tennessee?

I was going to post the same thing. It is like they have extra motivation to get to Schaub

cdollaz
12-19-2010, 02:56 PM
One difference: Earl Campbell wasn't a POS as a person.

hradhak
12-19-2010, 02:58 PM
did the titans just go for it on 4th down? up 2 TDs?

DerekLee1
12-19-2010, 03:00 PM
Is Foster hurt?

burro
12-19-2010, 03:00 PM
At least we have AJ against Innegan in our favor. Frankly, I would try a couple of streak routes and see what happens.

Hervoyel
12-19-2010, 03:00 PM
Wah, he had to learn a new position...he's neither the first nor the last player that will be happening to. He's finally grown up and started playing like he was expected to do originally. Shame his teammate VY can't do the same. I guess he'll have to go somewhere else to get HIS "fair shot" too?

So, what are you guys' reasons that he didn't make a dent at his other 3 interim stops? :cricket:

Ok, first and foremost Jason Babin didn't draft himself in the first round. The Texans decided he was a first round pick because Capers and Fangio thought he could be Kevin Green II. We all know how that went but before we go into that I just want to say that I don't hold Jason Babin's draft position against him. He's a bust in the first round but who says he even belonged there?

Now, he plays LB for two years and doesn't exactly suck at it but doesn't exactly excel at it either. Capers gets the boot, Kubiak shows up and he gets told to bulk up because he's going back to DE. Fine, he does and he's looking slow but he rakes in 5 sacks. Better but not spectacular. 2006 season he drops weight to get quicker and has an excellent preseason, literally the best of his career but Kubiak and Smith haven't fixed the safety problem (and still haven't 4 years later but that's beside the point) and so since we're so deep at DE they trade Babin to Seattle for a lousy safety who happens to share a last name with a good player.

Seattle and then Kansas City both didn't see anything in him but in Philadelphia he played well coming off the bench and in fact made enough plays to get Tennessee's attention. This year is what it is. 45 tackles, 12 sacks (so far) and he's probably going to the Pro Bowl.

Could he have done that here? I tend to think so but early on we decided to give up on him and take a stab at a failed project at safety. Kubiak and Smith gave up on Babin after one 5 sack, 26 tackle season. Then they came along a couple of years later and drafted Conner Barwin who gave them exactly 4.5 sacks and 18 tackles. Part of the reason these two dipsticks never get anywhere is they keep making mistakes with players and having to go back and draft the same guy over again. We never develop anybody but obviously Tennessee figured out how to develop Babin.

Maybe "fair shot" is the wrong way to put it though. I just think that we had a player capable of this here who we drafted in the first round and our GM, HC, and then DC didn't have what it took to coach him up to this level. Jason Babin is the perfect example of why I'm not convinced that any of these players suck as much as some think. With this coaching staff tasked with developing them I doubt anyone here really knows what our roster holds.

burro
12-19-2010, 03:03 PM
I think NFL.com game center is acting up. Did Schaub really throw a -25 yard pass to Ward?

cdollaz
12-19-2010, 03:04 PM
Right about time for the Schaub/Texans Offense Stat-Pad Machine to get going.

TexCanada
12-19-2010, 03:04 PM
I think NFL.com game center is acting up. Did Schaub really throw a -25 yard pass to Ward?

No, something is wrong with the updates on NFL.com

Wolf
12-19-2010, 03:04 PM
Offsides again :hmmm:

TheMatrix31
12-19-2010, 03:05 PM
Jason Babin is sooooo good.

Hervoyel
12-19-2010, 03:05 PM
Right about time for the Schaub/Texans Offense Stat-Pad Machine to get going.

Excuse me son, around these here parts we call that "The Right Track (TM)"

CloakNNNdagger
12-19-2010, 03:05 PM
Announcer: "The Texans were LETHARGIC at the beginning......."

and they are what NOW???

Doppelganger
12-19-2010, 03:06 PM
When you are up 31-17 with less than 5 mins to go, you can afford to play "dumb"

fiasco west
12-19-2010, 03:06 PM
Ooh a Dickerson sighting, I like it.

Wolf
12-19-2010, 03:06 PM
Finally see Dickerson

axman40
12-19-2010, 03:06 PM
bleah!

Doppelganger
12-19-2010, 03:06 PM
DICKerson sighting

Jottoz
12-19-2010, 03:06 PM
That TD was on Dickerson!

Sorry to say it looks like we got another project receiver who needs to be coached up!

Hervoyel
12-19-2010, 03:06 PM
Jason Babin is sooooo good.

His 12 sacks agree with you.

JB
12-19-2010, 03:07 PM
Ball game. Maybe Dickerson learned a bit though.

fiasco west
12-19-2010, 03:07 PM
Pretty good catch, hopefully he gets more snaps the next two games. not like it matters anymore.

Wolf
12-19-2010, 03:07 PM
Announcer: "The Texans were LETHARGIC at the beginning......."

and they are what NOW???

Yeah, I said to the tv .. Which game are you talking about?

hradhak
12-19-2010, 03:08 PM
Dickerson needs some reps. I hope gets a few more the rest of the game

Mr teX
12-19-2010, 03:08 PM
Ok, first and foremost Jason Babin didn't draft himself in the first round. The Texans decided he was a first round pick because Capers and Fangio thought he could be Kevin Green II. We all know how that went but before we go into that I just want to say that I don't hold Jason Babin's draft position against him. He's a bust in the first round but who says he even belonged there?

Now, he plays LB for two years and doesn't exactly suck at it but doesn't exactly excel at it either. Capers gets the boot, Kubiak shows up and he gets told to bulk up because he's going back to DE. Fine, he does and he's looking slow but he rakes in 5 sacks. Better but not spectacular. Pot 2006 season he drops weight to get quicker and has an excellent preseason, literally the best of his career but Kubiak and Smith haven't fixed the safety problem (and still haven't 4 years later but that's beside the point) and so since we're so deep at DE they trade Babin to Seattle for a lousy safety who happens to share a last name with a good player.

Seattle and then Kansas City both didn't see anything in him but in Philadelphia he played well coming off the bench and in fact made enough plays to get Tennessee's attention. This year is what it is. 45 tackles, 12 sacks (so far) and he's probably going to the Pro Bowl.

Could he have done that here? I tend to think so but early on we decided to give up on him and take a stab at a failed project at safety. Kubiak and Smith gave up on Babin after one 5 sack, 26 tackle season. Then they came along a couple of years later and drafted Conner Barwin who gave them exactly 4.5 sacks and 18 tackles. Part of the reason these two dipsticks never get anywhere is they keep making mistakes with players and having to go back and draft the same guy over again. We never develop anybody but obviously Tennessee figured out how to develop Babin.

Maybe "fair shot" is the wrong way to put it though. I just think that we had a player capable of this here who we drafted in the first round and our GM, HC, and then DC didn't have what it took to coach him up to this level. Jason Babin is the perfect example of why I'm not convinced that any of these players suck as much as some think. With this coaching staff tasked with developing them I doubt anyone here really knows what our roster holds.

Hindsight is a mofo. I didn't like the Babin pick when Capers made it & i didn't like the Barwin pick either. Nobody was thinking about babin until this year. Nobody. Now all of a sudden b/c he shows up in our division & has a good year, now everybody's "see, i told you he was good" It is what it is...he bounced around the league for a reason..he wasn't good enough & frankly Tennessee has a history of doing things like that anyway as they've got the best DL coach in the league in Jim Washburn.

Mr. Texan
12-19-2010, 03:08 PM
oh great the cowboys won. this day keeps getting better :kitten:

BullsOnParade
12-19-2010, 03:09 PM
Right track my ass. See ya Kubes!

Goatcheese
12-19-2010, 03:10 PM
Hindsight is a mofo. I didn't like the Babin pick when Capers made it & i didn't like the Barwin pick either. Nobody was thinking about babin until this year. Nobody. Now all of a sudden b/c he shows up in our division & has a good year, now everybody's "see, i told you he was good" It is what it is...he bounced around the league for a reason..he wasn't good enough & frankly Tennessee has a history of doing things like that anyway as they've got the best DL coach in the league in Jim Washburn.

I wouldn't say "nobody" was thinking about him. I put him on my FA short list the last two offseasons. :spin:

BattleRedRaider
12-19-2010, 03:10 PM
The announcers made it seem like Tennessee won the game due to being more "fresh" with the extra days days off than Houston, but I don't believe that at all. This could've been the only game Houston had to play all year and the results would still be the same.

Hervoyel
12-19-2010, 03:10 PM
indsight is a mofo. Nobody was thinking about babin until this year. Nobody. Now all of a sudden b/c he shows up in our division & has a good year, now everybody's "see, i told you he was good" It is what it is...he bounced around the league for a reason..he wasn't good enough & frankly Tennessee has a history of doing things like that anyway as they've got the best DL coach in the league in Jim Washburn.

I was pissed off when they gave up on him, watched him bounce around through Seattle and KC, and saw him starting to light up in Philly. I knew he wouldn't be coming back here though, we'd already drafted him again in the form of Barwin. He (dissacks) asked a few pages back so that was my explanation. The guy can play and could have here if we had a worth a shit DL coach.... ever.

Kimmy
12-19-2010, 03:11 PM
Announcer: "The Texans were LETHARGIC at the beginning......."

and they are what NOW???

Could you prescribe something to this team for their allergy to the playoffs? Please?

BullNation4Life
12-19-2010, 03:11 PM
"Turn Out Tha Liiiights, the party's ovvvverrr..."

Thorn
12-19-2010, 03:12 PM
So when do the Draft threads start up? LOL

TexanSam
12-19-2010, 03:12 PM
Damn, Babin in their victory formation. ugh

FirstTexansFan
12-19-2010, 03:12 PM
I feel for AJ.. period

Mr. Texan
12-19-2010, 03:13 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4jGSvxCRp4

TexCanada
12-19-2010, 03:13 PM
So when do the Draft threads start up? LOL

They have been going for weeks already

axman40
12-19-2010, 03:13 PM
So when do the Draft threads start up? LOL
3-2-1
:kitten:

Goatcheese
12-19-2010, 03:14 PM
Could you prescribe something to this team for their allergy to the playoffs? Please?

Prescription - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQUjqjNJ1IU

MojoX
12-19-2010, 03:14 PM
Gotta love the classy move by Fisher, putting Babin into the victory formation so he can pose in front of the Texans. A consistently Bud Adamsesque move.

DX-TEX
12-19-2010, 03:16 PM
At least we broke the "Texans Cycle".

http://www.brady-quinn.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/ohnowesuckagain.jpg

Malloy
12-19-2010, 03:16 PM
Another horrible first half effort, another horrible day for the D.

Oh well, now I can relax and watch the remaining season without too many invested emotions :)

alphajoker
12-19-2010, 03:16 PM
What happened to Foster?

Ghostform
12-19-2010, 03:17 PM
Kubiak wont even hit his trademark 8-8 this season...hes below even his standards...

Kimmy
12-19-2010, 03:17 PM
I feel for AJ.. period

He deserves a better team. I would support him seeking a trade. Don't think there's an active player who deserves it more.

BullNation4Life
12-19-2010, 03:18 PM
Gotta love the classy move by Fisher, putting Babin into the victory formation so he can pose in front of the Texans. A consistently Bud Adamsesque move.

Sorry but I found that kinda humorous...

axman40
12-19-2010, 03:18 PM
Another horrible first half effort, another horrible day for the D.

Oh well, now I can relax and watch the remaining season without too many invested emotions :)
Always look on the bright side of life!
:specnatz:

BullNation4Life
12-19-2010, 03:18 PM
What happened to Foster?

He was favoring his ankle in the 2nd quarter, probably a sprain...

Pantherstang84
12-19-2010, 03:19 PM
He deserves a better team. I would support him seeking a trade. Don't think there's an active player who deserves it more.

If McNair does not get over his bromance with Kubes, I agree with you.

MojoX
12-19-2010, 03:19 PM
Sorry but I found that kinda humorous...

So did I... But for what it says about that organization kore than anything else.

BullNation4Life
12-19-2010, 03:19 PM
and they have the Christian Warrior next when they go to Denver....

Teboooooooow for the TD.....

BullNation4Life
12-19-2010, 03:20 PM
So did I... But for what it says about that organization kore than anything else.

oh I know it was a jab at the Texans organization for giving up on Babin, like you said wouldn't expect anything less form them...

Malloy
12-19-2010, 03:21 PM
Always look on the bright side of life!
:specnatz:

It's either that or my signature :)

alphajoker
12-19-2010, 03:22 PM
He was favoring his ankle in the 2nd quarter, probably a sprain...

Gotcha, thanks.

Koolaid Time
12-19-2010, 03:24 PM
Always look on the bright side of life!
:specnatz:

Can we nail Kubiak to a Cross?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlBiLNN1NhQ

Wolf
12-19-2010, 03:24 PM
Always look on the bright side of life!
:specnatz:

One could modify a Monty python song
texans play like shit... Always look at the bright side of life
:brando:

TexCanada
12-19-2010, 03:24 PM
Wow, Philly just won on a last second punt return TD

steelbtexan
12-19-2010, 03:47 PM
The announcers made it seem like Tennessee won the game due to being more "fresh" with the extra days days off than Houston, but I don't believe that at all. This could've been the only game Houston had to play all year and the results would still be the same.

Wilcotts thought the Texans were a playoff team before the season started. This may have something to do with his excuse making.

valleytexfan
12-19-2010, 04:55 PM
I feel like I did in 2005...and that sucks majorly. :(

Napa Auto Parts
12-19-2010, 07:14 PM
And to think we are were 4-2 what in the hell happened.

HJam72
12-19-2010, 07:20 PM
And to think we are were 4-2 what in the hell happened.

Kubiak outsmarted himself....for 2 months.

kiwitexansfan
12-19-2010, 09:36 PM
And to think we are were 4-2 what in the hell happened.

People realized how epicly awful our pass defense is and threw the ball with impunity. Rinse, repeat, season over.

chicagotexan2
12-20-2010, 08:59 AM
Yesterday was only the second time ever that I checked out well before the Texans game was over. The first time I kind of had an reason, but this time I just couldn't stomach anymore of this k-wrap. And hearing McNairs comments about the team being on the right track doesn't help. And I used to see a silver lining in a bad record because of the draft but that has sucked since 06. I wish I had a more eloquent word to describe my thoughts but this just sucks and I don't feel any passion about my team.

HOU-TEX
12-20-2010, 11:32 AM
I didn't think he was worthy of a new thread, but Turk has been absolutely dreadful. How friggin hard is it to find a damn punter that can punt over 30-35 yards?! Kickers and Punters piss me off as it is, but having one (or both) choking just pisses me right the heck off.

Our defense sucks as it is and Turk inability to punt the ball out of our own territory is ridiculous. He had punts of 23, 52, 42 (which netted 22 due to touchback) and 27 yards. Boy, that's consistency! Not!

I'm kinda pissed I even typed this much for a damn punter!