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CloakNNNdagger
12-12-2010, 08:43 PM
..........especially on the field!!!!!!

Jets strength coach Sal Alosi identified in tripping of Nolan Carroll (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/12/12/jets-strength-coach-sal-alosi-identified-in-tripping-of-nolan-carroll/)

The person on the Jets sideline who tripped Miami’s Nolan Carroll during today’s game has been identified as Jets strength and conditioning coach Sal Alosi, a 33-year-old former Hofstra linebacker who is in his ninth year as an NFL strength coach.

The Jets confirmed that Alosi was the man dressed in green who committed the dirty cheap shot as Carroll was running down the Jets’ sideline on a punt. And Dolphins players are calling on NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell to come down hard on Alosi.

“That is so dirty,” Dolphins linebacker Karlos Dansby told the Sun-Sentinel. ”Come on man. That’s dirty! It all trickles down hill. Their head coach [Rex Ryan] opened a can of worms over there, and now he’s got to fix it.”

Dansby was one of multiple Dolphins who said discipline is in order.

“They are going to handle it,” Dansby said. “I believe in Goodell! Goodell, come on man.”

Dolphins head coach Tony Sparano said the assistant coaches in the Dolphins’ booth saw the trip and were furious about it. Unfortunately, the officials missed it.

The Jets, however, were slow to admit Alosi’s responsibility. Greg Bishop of the New York Times reports that the team was at first pretending it didn’t happen. And Bart Hubbuch of the New York Post reports that security ushered Alosi away before reporters could ask him why he tripped Carroll.

But now that the Jets have admitted Alosi was the guilty party in one of the cheapest cheap shots we’ve seen in an NFL game, Goodell needs to make sure Alosi pays a heavy price for his action.

SEE VIDEO (http://thebiglead.com/index.php/2010/12/12/jets-coach-on-the-sideline-apparently-tried-to-trip-dolphins-player-on-punt-coverage/)

Showtime100
12-12-2010, 08:48 PM
..........especially on the field!!!!!!



SEE VIDEO (http://thebiglead.com/index.php/2010/12/12/jets-coach-on-the-sideline-apparently-tried-to-trip-dolphins-player-on-punt-coverage/)

I just saw this and I can't believe my senses.

And Dolphins players are calling on NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell to come down hard on Alosi

Hell yea. A life sentence from being on an NFL sideline would about do it.

Texecutioner
12-12-2010, 08:48 PM
Yeah, that takes being dirty to such pathetic levels. Just disgraceful actually.

gtexan02
12-12-2010, 08:51 PM
Unbelieveable. I agree with showtime. You can't act like a grownup, you get off the sidelines.

Ridiculous

Rey
12-12-2010, 08:52 PM
I saw it and I couldn't tell from the angle they showed. . . But the way he bent his leg I figured he did it

JB
12-12-2010, 08:52 PM
Shades of Woody Hayes...

CloakNNNdagger
12-12-2010, 09:01 PM
Shades of Woody Hayes...

Exactly. But why would you use your knee when you can use YOUR FIST??!! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEVJyf0ft3I).:bat:

NitroGSXR
12-12-2010, 09:03 PM
Lol. I hope the Jets fire him. We need a new S&C coach.

gtexan02
12-12-2010, 09:04 PM
I saw it and I couldn't tell from the angle they showed. . . But the way he bent his leg I figured he did it

Watch this one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h32GjasxOvU

The guy gets relatively injured as well

CloakNNNdagger
12-12-2010, 09:17 PM
Watch this one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h32GjasxOvU

The guy gets relatively injured as well


Goodell ought to give Carroll one "Free Kick."

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_4oai2QUlbUE/Ru7zzzjZnzI/AAAAAAAAA7c/NavBLvBGg2g/s400/a_kick_in_the_nuts.jpg

IlliniJen
12-12-2010, 09:20 PM
The Jets are a classless organization.

mootini
12-12-2010, 09:48 PM
Goodell ought to give Carroll one "Free Kick."

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_4oai2QUlbUE/Ru7zzzjZnzI/AAAAAAAAA7c/NavBLvBGg2g/s400/a_kick_in_the_nuts.jpg

LOL The Jets are falling apart! What's next. This dude is gonna get fined..BIG time.

gtexan02
12-12-2010, 09:56 PM
The funniest part was that the Jets tried to pretend it didn't happen at first.

There is CLEAR video evidence of everything that happens during NFL games.

This guy is a moron in addition to being a classless wuss

Texan_Bill
12-12-2010, 09:57 PM
Shades of Woody Hayes...

Damn, we old... That was exactly my first thought..


Then again, was it Woody Hayes that did that, or was it someone else?? Woody Hayes is known for *****-slapping some Clemson Linebacker in the Gator Bowl??

Showtime100
12-12-2010, 10:01 PM
Damn, we old... That was exactly my first thought..


Then again, was it Woody Hayes that did that, or was it someone else?? Woody Hayes is known for *****-slapping some Clemson Linebacker in the Gator Bowl??

Woody. Hell man, you managed to remember and forget all at the same time!!!

CloakNNNdagger
12-12-2010, 10:02 PM
Damn, we old... That was exactly my first thought..


Then again, was it Woody Hayes that did that, or was it someone else?? Woody Hayes is known for *****-slapping some Clemson Linebacker in the Gator Bowl??

Did you see my FIST video link response to JB's post??

edo783
12-12-2010, 10:36 PM
I've got a hunch the guy probably likes the job he used to have. Kind of sad. Probably more of just a reaction than any sort of malice, but his family will be the ones suffering for his dumb move.

Norg
12-12-2010, 10:43 PM
U know whats dirty Teh jets going like 70+ yards on us in like 34 seconds :gun:

Revolution
12-12-2010, 10:47 PM
The funniest part was that the Jets tried to pretend it didn't happen at first.

There is CLEAR video evidence of everything that happens during NFL games.

This guy is a moron in addition to being a classless wuss

Dude should be fired and not allowed another NFL job. Period.

Showtime100
12-12-2010, 10:47 PM
U know whats dirty Teh jets going like 70+ yards on us in like 34 seconds :gun:

I hated that it was flawless against us and not here tonight. Sanchez was off, and his recievers dropped passes during the crucial drive. It must just be the Texan in me that thinks that. You too, I'm sure. Sucks..lol.

CretorFrigg
12-12-2010, 10:50 PM
That's uncalled for. Can someone please say fired?

GP
12-14-2010, 03:07 PM
Uh oh. The plot thickens.

Zac thomas has chimed in and says the Jets players formed a wall of men, standing side-by-side along the chalk lined area where coaches stand...trying to basically make a buffer zone whereby a special teams gunner would end up running into the wall of players if he went too far out of bounds.

here's the text, and link to full story (http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/news/story?id=5919573):

On Day 3 of TripGate, former Miami Dolphins linebacker Zach Thomas accused the New York Jets of deliberately forming a human wall on their sideline to influence the Dolphins' gunner, Nolan Carroll.

The unfortunate episode became a national story because Carroll was purposely tripped by Sal Alosi, the Jets' strength and conditioning coach, but Thomas is part of a growing faction that believes Alosi wasn't acting alone.

"They had to be ordered to stand there because they're foot to foot," Thomas said Tuesday on Miami radio station WQAM. "There's four of them, side to side -- five of them, I mean -- on the edge of the coach's zone. They're only out there to restrict the space of the gunner.

"But there's more to it because I'm telling you, the only thing [Alosi] did wrong was intentionally put that knee out there. If he just stood there, there would never have been a problem, even if the guy got tripped. But there's more to this. He was ordered to stand there. No one is foot to foot on the sideline in the coach's box."

Actually, it was a six-man line, starting with Alosi and defensive lineman Marcus Dixon (inactive). It's believed the other four also were inactive players. They were in a tight formation, almost like soccer players preparing to defend a direct kick. Their toes were right up against the boundary, with Alosi positioned in the corner of the coaches' box.

Coincidence? When Carroll approached at full speed, not one of them flinched, suggesting it was a show of force that appeared to be orchestrated. Alosi and Jets officials denied that, claiming they don't coach that tactic -- an unsavory technique that is semi-prevalent around the league.
Everybody knows what happened next: Alosi infamously extended his left knee as Carroll ran by on a punt, causing the Miami rookie to fall on his face -- an "irresponsible" act (Alosi's word) that resulted in him being suspended without pay for the rest of the season and fined $25,000 by the Jets.

A close examination of the TV replay shows that Dixon was leaning in with his left shoulder, perhaps preparing for contact as well.

"Something is fishy," said an opposing personnel executive, speaking on the condition of anonymity.

The executive said the Jets have shown a penchant in recent weeks for using sideline personnel as a deterrent to gunners -- players sprinting the sideline in an attempt to get to the returner quickly -- adding that the Jets' sideline is conspicuously clear when their team is doing the punting.

One punt before the Carroll trip, Alosi and four others were lined up in a similar fashion. On that play, Dolphins gunner Reshad Jones came barreling into the sideline area. Because he didn't return immediately to the field, he was penalized for unsportsmanlike conduct. Even though they benefited from the penalty, the Jets responded as if their turf had been invaded.

"It was kind of curious," said a former longtime NFL special teams coach. "I mean, they had a bunch of guys lined up. It was unusual to say the least. If somebody ordered that, I'd be [ticked] off if I were Sal."

Former Buffalo Bill Steve Tasker, one of the greatest special teams players in history, said the Jets' tactic -- if intentional -- didn't bother him at all. He didn't condone Alosi's trip, but he has no problem with a team trying to defend its sideline to prevent a gunner from gaining field position.

"No question, you're not supposed to trip someone, but I think this is an overreaction," he said in a phone interview. "This isn't stealing signs or illegal taping or somebody sabotaging something. It was just a guy, reacting."

Tasker said he made a living out of running out of bounds as a gunner, using the sideline to escape blockers. One time, in a game against the Jets, he was so far out of bounds that he ran through the bench area to break free. Another time, he said he was tripped by former Giants punter Sean Landeta while running on the boundary.

"You think this is the first time [a trip] ever happened? Come on," Tasker said. "Guys were always giving me extra shoves. You don't want to see someone get hurt, but it's not a big deal. Why wouldn't you give a guy a forearm shiver? Everyone on the sideline is part of a team and they all want to win. Shoot, even the doctors are competitive.

"If [the Jets] are coached to do that, so what? Call a penalty on them. If a gunner is going to use the sideline as a weapon, like I did, why wouldn't you want to form a road block? There's nothing wrong with that as long as it's within the rules."

Because of Tasker, the league changed the rules, restricting the gunner -- aka the Steve Tasker Rule. On Monday, ESPN Senior NFL Analyst Chris Mortensen reported the NFL will send a memo to all 32 clubs as a reminder that they should adhere to league rules that require players, coaches and other personnel to remain the proper distance from the sidelines.

Jets coach Rex Ryan and general manager Mike Tannenbaum, while not defending Alosi's action, insisted their players aren't coached to crowd the sideline.

"Number one, I did not instruct anyone," special teams coach Mike Westhoff said in a statement issued by the team. "Number two, I was not aware. With all of the people on the sidelines, it would be inconsequential and I would not be involved in any way, shape or form."

Westhoff used to coach the Dolphins' special teams, and spent five seasons with Thomas. The former Pro Bowl linebacker said he couldn't recall anything like that happening in Miami, but said there's no doubt in his mind that Alosi was simply following orders

"Oh, sure, that's the reason the guy didn't get fired," Thomas told a FoxSports Radio in South Florida. "... There was somebody that ordered that for the sideline."

And Tasker is a tool bar, btw.

GP
12-14-2010, 03:09 PM
Buddy Ryan's kid is a chip off the old block, eh?

LOL.

Blake
12-14-2010, 03:57 PM
How dumb do you have to be to think you would get away with that? Dumbass.

Double Barrel
12-14-2010, 04:17 PM
Interesting. I never knew that gunners used the sideline as strategy.

Giant Tiger
12-14-2010, 08:31 PM
That has happened before... and the guy became a judge!

http://www.cfl.ca/article/the-story-of-the-1957-grey-cup

keyser
12-15-2010, 07:20 AM
That has happened before... and the guy became a judge!

http://www.cfl.ca/article/the-story-of-the-1957-grey-cup

That's interesting. I've often wondered exactly what would happen if, on some key play (think a pass dowfield as time expired or something), someone (player/coach/ball boy/whatever) ran out from the sidelines and tackled a guy who would otherwise be on his way to a touchdown. I'd assume there would be a 15 yard penalty, and the person doing the tackle might forever be banned from attending games, but I wonder if the stakes were high enough if someone just might do it someday... I've seen plenty of plays where it would be possible, and I'm kind of surprised that it hasn't happend yet (other than that Grey Cup example).

Dread-Head
12-15-2010, 08:28 AM
Buddy Ryan's kid is a chip off the old block, eh?

LOL.

Buddy would have "accidentally" thrown a big mug of coffee in the guys face.

JB
12-15-2010, 04:12 PM
The New York Jets have suspended Sal Alosi indefinitely after the team got "new information" that the strength and conditioning coach "instructed" five players to stand in a wall before he tripped Dolphins player Nolan Carroll on Sunday.

"Over the last day as we continued our investigation we discovered some new information," Tannenbaum said. "The players at the Miami game were instructed by Sal to stand where they were forcing the gunner in the game to run around them. Based on that new information we've suspended Sal indefinitely, pending further review."


This isn't the first time that Alosi has ordered players to line up, according to a player who was in the line.

"We've been doing that since the beginning of the year, standing right there. Sunday was not the first time that we'd been doing that," Jets tight end Jeff Cumberland said.

"I mean, throughout the season you know things are going to happen but you never expect this to happen."




Link (http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/news/story?id=5922926)


Yeah, like it was really this guy's call.


:mariopalm: Jets!

Speedy
12-16-2010, 10:51 AM
That's interesting. I've often wondered exactly what would happen if, on some key play (think a pass dowfield as time expired or something), someone (player/coach/ball boy/whatever) ran out from the sidelines and tackled a guy who would otherwise be on his way to a touchdown. I'd assume there would be a 15 yard penalty, and the person doing the tackle might forever be banned from attending games, but I wonder if the stakes were high enough if someone just might do it someday... I've seen plenty of plays where it would be possible, and I'm kind of surprised that it hasn't happend yet (other than that Grey Cup example).

I believe that if a player has a clear shot to the endzone on a play and someone from the sidelines makes a tackle or trips the guy or whatever, the penalty is to award the player with the TD.

IDEXAN
12-16-2010, 12:19 PM
Lot of people jumped on the Rex Ryan band-wagon before the season started, apparently thinking his foul-mouth language was cool or macho or whatever ? And that includes the New York media. Well now they're all coming
around to what the rest of us led by Coach Dungy saw, a big wind-bag,
full-of-crap guy who couldn't come close to backing up his mouth. And before this whole matter is over, he may be joining that 10% or so of the population that's unemployed.

NitroGSXR
12-16-2010, 12:40 PM
Lot of people jumped on the Rex Ryan band-wagon before the season started, apparently thinking his foul-mouth language was cool or macho or whatever ? And that includes the New York media. Well now they're all coming
around to what the rest of us led by Coach Dungy saw, a big wind-bag,
full-of-crap guy who couldn't come close to backing up his mouth. And before this whole matter is over, he may be joining that 10% or so of the population that's unemployed.

He can come coach the Texans ANYTIME.

Wolf
12-31-2010, 10:43 AM
FLORHAM PARK, N.J. (AP)—The New York Jets are paying for their sideline shenanigans.

The team was fined $100,000 by the NFL on Thursday for violating league rules when assistant coach Sal Alosi ordered players to form a sideline wall, then tripped Miami’s Nolan Carroll(notes) during a punt return earlier this month.

The discipline was in response to the actions of Alosi, the Jets’ strength and conditioning coach, and comments made by special teams coach Mike Westhoff, who accused other teams of employing similar sideline wall tactics.

“We will comply with the league’s decision,” the Jets said in a statement.

Alosi “placed players in a prohibited area on the sideline to impede an opposing team’s special teams players and gain a competitive advantage,” according to a statement by the league. The NFL called it “a competitive violation as well as a dangerous tactic.”

Five inactive players were ordered by Alosi to stand together nearly shoulder-to-shoulder on the sideline in New York’s 10-6 loss to Miami on Dec. 12. Tight end Jeff Cumberland(notes), one of the inactive players, said Alosi had told them to do that all season.

Alosi was first suspended without pay for the remainder of the season and fined $25,000 by the Jets for tripping Carroll, before being suspended indefinitely by the team after acknowledging he ordered the players to form the wall.

The league fine caps one of several incidents for which the playoff-bound Jets have made negative headlines during a wacky season.


http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=AhhS1WCGwcEIxNn_P.iJKUk5nYcB?slug=ap-jets-sidelinetrippingfine