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LikeMike
12-08-2010, 06:13 AM
Hi guys,

as you Im frustrated by the lack of progression of this team. We are probably gonna finish in the 7-9 to 9-7 range and miss the playoffs again... Doing some changes in the coaching staff is probably on the top of the priority list for most guys - but what about our roster? Where do we desperately need to add talent and how?

Id say we are pretty much set at QB, HB, FB, TE and probably WR on offense. The O-line is actually doing a pretty good job this year, but Id probably feel better, if we add on or two players here at the offseason. Perhaps draft one early and sign one as a FA.

Now to the defense - Id say we are set at DE. I know a lot of you guys are upset with the pass rush, but I think with Mario, Smith, Barwin and Anderson we have enough quality here. What we are missing is another force at DT - drafting DTs is pretty tough, Id love to sign a proven veteran here, but they are hard to get. Our LB corps looks pretty good when healthy, but I felt better, if we signed another promising project in the latter rounds.

Now to our secondary - the root of all that evil this year ;-). In my opinion, drafting a FS would be at the top of my priority list this offseason - if you can sign a great veteran, sure do that, but pretty often rookies at FS actually contribute more than rookies at CB. That`s why I wouldn`t draft another CB high this year (perhaps a 4th rounder), unless some big talent falls into our laps. But a big Free Agent signing here would definetly help.

On the ST side, we need a KR and PR - but I wouldn`t draft a dedicated returner like Holiday - perhaps just draft a young CB who is a good returner. Oh, and we definetly need a punter this year - Turk isn`t really having a good season, and we are definetly losing the match of field position.

So in my opinion, these are our biggest needs:

1. FS (draft 1st round if the talent is available)
2. DT (FA or trade)
3. CB (FA or trade)
4. O-Line (draft maybe even 2 players)
5. LB (draft)
6. P (draft)
7. returner (draft)

What do you guys think?

stingray
12-08-2010, 06:23 AM
Fix this black hole and everything will follow in line.

http://blogs.chron.com/fanblogtexans/Kubiak.jpg

Thorn
12-08-2010, 07:36 AM
Yeah, I'd start with a new coaching staff and see where they lead us.

FirstTexansFan
12-08-2010, 07:47 AM
I'd say their biggest holes are their arses... they seem to always have their heads in them... it's gonna require major surgery :)

Buffi2
12-08-2010, 08:02 AM
First priority and only thing that is going to come close to "fixing" this team is a new coaching staff.

After that, we can talk about players.

HOU-TEX
12-08-2010, 09:19 AM
Get the coaching fixed first. Then, put the defensive depth chart on the wall, grab a dart, throw it at the chart and wherever it hits....start there. IMO, there's not a position on that side of the ball that couldn't use an upgrade, especially DT. I'm tired of seeing DT's around the league create havoc in the trenches and then watch the Texans play.

It's so sad our defense is this bad when we've spent so much on that side of the ball. Ridiculous

HuttoKarl
12-08-2010, 09:25 AM
Yeah, I'd start with a new coaching staff and see where they lead us.

like

steelbtexan
12-08-2010, 09:29 AM
Fix this black hole and everything will follow in line.

http://blogs.chron.com/fanblogtexans/Kubiak.jpg

This

GP
12-08-2010, 09:47 AM
Starting the very first day after the last regular season game (since we won't be in the playoffs...again) I would fire the entire coaching staff, including the special teams coach. Gone. All of them.

I would have a mandatory meeting with all the players at Reliant and tell the players that we're going to start from scratch and if they desire to be a part of it, then stick around. If not, stop cashing the paychecks and go find work elsewhere. I'd take a real hard-line stance on it. I'd conduct the player meetings and ask them for input. "What's working? What isn't?" and "What do you think this team should focus on?" A lot of people here think this is rubbish to do these sorts of things. It CAN be rubbish if you don't manage that sort of meeting very well. If you go into it with the goal of trying to understand what they think, how they feel, and get insight as to what's going on, you can then find a coach based on knowing he can change those things.

Having ZERO coaches is not a bad thing. It doesn't communicate failure, or panic, etc. It says "You know what? Let's just stop everything. Let's erase the chalkboard and ask the players--the guys out there battling each week--for input and insight. They know a lot more than you can ever imagine. They have a shred of dignity and self-respect left. All men do. But it has to be encouraged to express itself. Openly. Honestly.

Then, I would take my information and guard it like precious treasure. Only I would know that information. And maybe my GM. Maybe. And then, I would begin interviewing anybody I felt had carried the scepter of leadership (with previous teams) in such a way that it would benefit my players and adjust the culture and way of doing things.

Also, gotta' hire a coach who would leave some things untouched. The running game is working really well. The stats prove it. The passing game has suffered this year after a steady increase each previous year, so it needs help again. One of the things Tommy Tuberville did wrong, IMO, is that he said he wasn't going to change anything and yet the key coaches on offense and defense were gone. Big mistake. He should have came in as more of an outside observer and someone who would act as sheriff and keep the law. At least for his first year. Keep things going like they were, as much as possible. But he couldn't resist putting "his" stamp on things. And he has failed miserably. The defense is worse than it was, and the offense has lost its signature style and flavor. 10 years of Leach's guys, building and adjusting all those years, getting it tweaked and primed for performance each Saturday, and they were ousted.

So the new guy has to be very aware of the existing things that are working and he has to be cautious about dismantling things too quickly.

We've given Gary 5 years. I can give the new guy a pass on his first year if it means ramping things up in year 2 and beyond.

Overall, I just want a coach the players will respond to.

The1ApplePie
12-08-2010, 09:51 AM
Offense:

WR (AJ is the best in the NFL, but his supporting cast are all bums)
Guard

Defense:

DT
FS
WLB

As for fixing it, just go BPA in the draft. Which means no more Kareem Jacksons over Dez Byrants or Amobi Okoyes over Patrick Willis

MFG16
12-08-2010, 10:15 AM
Offense:

WR (AJ is the best in the NFL, but his supporting cast are all bums)
Guard

Defense:

DT
FS
WLB

As for fixing it, just go BPA in the draft. Which means no more Kareem Jacksons over Dez Byrants or Amobi Okoyes over Patrick Willis

Who does Zac Diles get no love? I'm not saying we cant improve at that position but I think he is one of the most underrated players in the league. Im also so tired of people complaining about why We took Okoye over Willis. At the time DeMeco was coming off his DROY season and we were weak at DT. That would be like us taking a SAM Linebacker after Cushings DROY season. Besides its not like we knew Okoye would be terrible, we tried to fill a hole with a high potential high draft pick.

As for the holes on the current team:

1. Coaching
2. Safety
3. Cornerback (veteran)
4. WR
5. Speed (watching that eagles game made how slow the texans looked glaring)

BullNation4Life
12-08-2010, 03:23 PM
Fix this black hole and everything will follow in line.

http://blogs.chron.com/fanblogtexans/Kubiak.jpg

yup...

RagingBull
12-08-2010, 03:41 PM
I'd say their biggest holes are their arses... they seem to always have their heads in them... it's gonna require major surgery :)

Must spread rep...

Norg
12-08-2010, 08:05 PM
I dont get payed to figure out our problems !!!!!!!!!!!!!

I just know we need to get better in all 3 phases ............ Kube SPeak LOL

STEEL BLUE TEXANS
12-08-2010, 08:10 PM
New coach and GM.

DocBar
12-08-2010, 09:08 PM
I gotta say at DC. The league is FULL of HC's that are experts on 1 side of the ball and that's where their teams are best. Kubes is an offensive guy and we have a good offense. Slow as hell to start a game,yes, but still a good offensive squad.
Our D is in shambles. We have multiple #1 picks and still struggle. We need someone less system oriented and someone more player oriented to put guys where they need to be and able to play within themselves.

JB
12-08-2010, 09:22 PM
I gotta say at DC. The league is FULL of HC's that are experts on 1 side of the ball and that's where their teams are best. Kubes is an offensive guy and we have a good offense. Slow as hell to start a game,yes, but still a good offensive squad.
Our D is in shambles. We have multiple #1 picks and still struggle. We need someone less system oriented and someone more player oriented to put guys where they need to be and able to play within themselves.



There has also been lots of HC's that were experts on one side of the ball, that dominated on the other side... ie. Billick and the Ravens

gary
12-08-2010, 09:40 PM
New coaches, DT, and secondary.

imatexan
12-08-2010, 10:04 PM
1. New CB's and other defensive players.

2. New defensive coordinator.

Grams
12-09-2010, 05:51 AM
Biggest Hole - Head Coach

Fix - Bill Cowher

infantrycak
12-09-2010, 09:46 AM
There has also been lots of HC's that were experts on one side of the ball, that dominated on the other side... ie. Billick and the Ravens

Kind of. Billick only had one year where his O broke into the top 10 and he hovered around 20 the rest of the time.

JB
12-09-2010, 10:05 AM
Kind of. Billick only had one year where his O broke into the top 10 and he hovered around 20 the rest of the time.

That's what I was talking about. Billick is an offensive expert, but his offenses usually sucked.

But the defenses were dominant.

infantrycak
12-09-2010, 10:29 AM
That's what I was talking about. Billick is an offensive expert, but his offenses usually sucked.

But the defenses were dominant.

Sorry. Thought you were saying he was good on both sides.

DexmanC
12-09-2010, 01:06 PM
Kubiak's offense isn't dominant. The Texans dominate at nothing,
and just meander for 60 minutes. What do the Texans hang their
hat on? What's the bell cow?

Texanmike02
12-10-2010, 07:31 AM
Kubiak's offense isn't dominant. The Texans dominate at nothing,
and just meander for 60 minutes. What do the Texans hang their
hat on? What's the bell cow?

The running game?


Mike

Thorn
12-10-2010, 07:49 AM
The running game?


Mike

While we have the number 1 rusher in the league, we are far from being the number 1 rushing TEAM in the league. For just sheer yardage on the ground, the Chiefs are kicking everyones ass.

HOU-TEX
12-10-2010, 09:27 AM
Here's a quote from Ray Lewis during the weekly conference call. Tell me, is there anything he mentions that would make anyone think of the Texans defense? Heck no!

RayRay on playing with passion

(on how important passion is to a defense) I think passion is the reason why you have to play. That is the only way you could play defense. I dont think you could play defense with a lackadaisical attitude because defense is different. Were more kind of dictators, reacting on what offenses give us, or things like that. You got to always have to have a chip on your shoulder. Kind of be pissed off. I think, from my side, thats what the passion comes from. Like always just having a chip, whether its offensive coordinators drawing up game plans to trick him or manipulate him on this play or that play or whether somebody is saying, Im going to come knock him out. Thats what I think passion has to come from.

http://www.houstontexans.com/news/article-3/Quotes-Thursday-Practice/5e024b5a-314b-4e97-8b9d-45cfa4b7c7e9

steelbtexan
12-10-2010, 09:43 AM
The holes are the same as last yr

1. Management, McNair,Smithiak etc...

2. Personel same as last yr
a.Secondary
b.Pass rusher
c.Run Stuffing DT
d. Athletic WLB
D. Speedy Wr
E. Interior OL

Other than those little things the Texans are in great shape. IMHO

Fred
12-10-2010, 10:43 PM
...
I would have a mandatory meeting with all the players at Reliant and tell the players that we're going to start from scratch and if they desire to be a part of it, then stick around. If not, stop cashing the paychecks and go find work elsewhere...

And bring a big stack of applications to work to at Jack-in-the-Box for those who won't get with the program.

TEXANRED
12-11-2010, 12:13 AM
John Holmes couldn't fill all the Texans holes.

DexmanC
12-11-2010, 04:48 PM
John Holmes couldn't fill all the Texans holes.

To laugh at this statement, would require admitting knowledge of who
John Holmes is.

BigBull17
12-13-2010, 09:02 AM
Who does Zac Diles get no love? I'm not saying we cant improve at that position but I think he is one of the most underrated players in the league. Im also so tired of people complaining about why We took Okoye over Willis. At the time DeMeco was coming off his DROY season and we were weak at DT. That would be like us taking a SAM Linebacker after Cushings DROY season. Besides its not like we knew Okoye would be terrible, we tried to fill a hole with a high potential high draft pick.

As for the holes on the current team:

1. Coaching
2. Safety
3. Cornerback (veteran)
4. WR
5. Speed (watching that eagles game made how slow the texans looked glaring)

Zack Diles is a back up LB. Period. We need an upgrade at will. It's a sad truth.

TexCanada
12-14-2010, 11:01 AM
After watching last nights game I can't help but think that adding in a DT even half as good as Ngata could do this team wonders. If we added in a DT and FS by next season this D could be much improved. I'm going to stick with those as our biggest needs.

VTexan
12-14-2010, 11:45 AM
Step 1. Fire HC, DC, GM

Step 2. Hire HC,DC,GM

Step 3. Draft defense (nothing new here)

Step 4. SIGN CHAMP BAILEY (he's a FA and why would he stay in denver? he's still got the ability 9x probowler and he will be one this year. get this guy for 3 years and start quinn opposite side.


Step 5. ?????


Step 6. Profit

aussie_texan
12-14-2010, 07:41 PM
Hi guys
this is my first post on the forums. i have been a texan fan for a few years now down in australia.

just thought i would say since our massive losing streak i been looking at the off-season not because im less of a fan just that i see it as an opportunity to really take this team from a 7-9 or 8-8 team to a serious contender in this league.

From what i have seen in alot of mock drafts is that there probably wont be any or maybe just 1 FS going in the first round it seems that there arnt to many outside rahim moore and duenta williams. Unless they have incredible combines they will fall in the 2nd.

In my opinion FS is our main priority but i dont think we should draft them in the first round. Maybe get them in the 2nd or trade up in the 2nd to get them.

DT seems to have a few prospects especially if we land from 11-15 in the draft. players like paea come to mind.

If however we get a top 10 pick, i think we try go for one of the two corners.
But i have my reservations because i still feel that because we spent a 1st on a CB last year and that they are still young i would give them another year and probably add a veteran from FA.

OLB is clearly a problem because diles cannot be relied upon (im hoping for bruce carter from NC)

in the Draft i think we draft:
1st - a DT - paea
2nd - FS and OLB - williams and carter (because hopefully we can trade something with slaton jj and a pick) ..... only trade JJ if we get someone in FA
Then in later rounds draft a WR, O-line (C and G), P (not in that specific order).

in FA we should be looking at a speedy WR, C , and a veteran CB (i.e champ bailey).

if we can address either a DT, FS, OLB in FA that would be fantastic.
but unless we see some sort of change in coaching and or mentality from owners i dont see much happening in FA.

i know that was a massive message but i have been wanting to get that off my chest for a while.

GO TEXANS

aussie_texan
12-14-2010, 10:37 PM
what do you guys think??

ubecool454
12-15-2010, 11:39 AM
Hi guys,

as you Im frustrated by the lack of progression of this team. We are probably gonna finish in the 7-9 to 9-7 range and miss the playoffs again... Doing some changes in the coaching staff is probably on the top of the priority list for most guys - but what about our roster? Where do we desperately need to add talent and how?

Id say we are pretty much set at QB, HB, FB, TE and probably WR on offense. The O-line is actually doing a pretty good job this year, but Id probably feel better, if we add on or two players here at the offseason. Perhaps draft one early and sign one as a FA.

Now to the defense - Id say we are set at DE. I know a lot of you guys are upset with the pass rush, but I think with Mario, Smith, Barwin and Anderson we have enough quality here. What we are missing is another force at DT - drafting DTs is pretty tough, Id love to sign a proven veteran here, but they are hard to get. Our LB corps looks pretty good when healthy, but I felt better, if we signed another promising project in the latter rounds.

Now to our secondary - the root of all that evil this year ;-). In my opinion, drafting a FS would be at the top of my priority list this offseason - if you can sign a great veteran, sure do that, but pretty often rookies at FS actually contribute more than rookies at CB. That`s why I wouldn`t draft another CB high this year (perhaps a 4th rounder), unless some big talent falls into our laps. But a big Free Agent signing here would definetly help.

On the ST side, we need a KR and PR - but I wouldn`t draft a dedicated returner like Holiday - perhaps just draft a young CB who is a good returner. Oh, and we definetly need a punter this year - Turk isn`t really having a good season, and we are definetly losing the match of field position.

So in my opinion, these are our biggest needs:

1. FS (draft 1st round if the talent is available)
2. DT (FA or trade)
3. CB (FA or trade)
4. O-Line (draft maybe even 2 players)
5. LB (draft)
6. P (draft)
7. returner (draft)

What do you guys think?

I think you are pretty much on point here. The DT we should look at is Albert Haynesworth even with the "bad attitude". I don't think we need any LBs as we are set there with the emergence of Sharpton.

ubecool454
12-15-2010, 11:43 AM
Kubiak's offense isn't dominant. The Texans dominate at nothing,
and just meander for 60 minutes. What do the Texans hang their
hat on? What's the bell cow?

The Texans dominate on playing that sickening country western music that the cheerleaders cannot get down to and that the majority of the young crowd can't relate to. Mr. McNair cannot tell the difference between a football game and the rodeo.

TexCanada
12-15-2010, 11:46 AM
Hi guys
this is my first post on the forums. i have been a texan fan for a few years now down in australia.

just thought i would say since our massive losing streak i been looking at the off-season not because im less of a fan just that i see it as an opportunity to really take this team from a 7-9 or 8-8 team to a serious contender in this league.

From what i have seen in alot of mock drafts is that there probably wont be any or maybe just 1 FS going in the first round it seems that there arnt to many outside rahim moore and duenta williams. Unless they have incredible combines they will fall in the 2nd.

In my opinion FS is our main priority but i dont think we should draft them in the first round. Maybe get them in the 2nd or trade up in the 2nd to get them.

DT seems to have a few prospects especially if we land from 11-15 in the draft. players like paea come to mind.

If however we get a top 10 pick, i think we try go for one of the two corners.
But i have my reservations because i still feel that because we spent a 1st on a CB last year and that they are still young i would give them another year and probably add a veteran from FA.

OLB is clearly a problem because diles cannot be relied upon (im hoping for bruce carter from NC)

in the Draft i think we draft:
1st - a DT - paea
2nd - FS and OLB - williams and carter (because hopefully we can trade something with slaton jj and a pick) ..... only trade JJ if we get someone in FA
Then in later rounds draft a WR, O-line (C and G), P (not in that specific order).

in FA we should be looking at a speedy WR, C , and a veteran CB (i.e champ bailey).

if we can address either a DT, FS, OLB in FA that would be fantastic.
but unless we see some sort of change in coaching and or mentality from owners i dont see much happening in FA.

i know that was a massive message but i have been wanting to get that off my chest for a while.

GO TEXANS

I think you are bang on. Welcome to the board.

I believe (in almost any sport) that we should build on strength down the middle. A solid DT, MLB, and FS are the start to a good defense. Right now we only have one of those three and he is injured.

El Tejano
12-15-2010, 12:04 PM
These comments aren't just based on what I saw last game. These comments don't reflect the biggest need but they do reflect that something needs to be done quickly about these two positions.

WR and Kicker. I know we've got the best one in the game. However, KW and JJ have been inconsistent and outside of those two, we only got David Anderson. The inconsistency of KW and JJ have reulted in bad halves of football. I even took into consideration that the emergence of Arian Foster has resulted in less snaps for KW and JJ but then you go back and look and see how we tend to abandon the run, surely there are times for them to step up. If we want a consistent offense, we have to have guys that consistently get open and make the catches that are thrown to them.

Neil Rackers is only good inside 45. I realize that him having to kick a 50 yarder is a result of an offense that didn't execute. However, I'm not asking him to make all 50 yarders but at least look like he's got the leg to get it there. On top of that, he can't kick it in the endzone and things like what happened on Monday make it that way. We need a strong leg.

Honoring Earl 34
12-15-2010, 12:05 PM
The Texans dominate on playing that sickening country western music that the cheerleaders cannot get down to and that the majority of the young crowd can't relate to. Mr. McNair cannot tell the difference between a football game and the rodeo.

If they're gonna play country then they should play "Achy Breaky Heart" .

Ole Miss Texan
12-15-2010, 12:39 PM
I put this in another thread but think it's applicable here. My biggest thing is new DC/Secondary coach, plus some key draft picks and key veteran FA signings.


I really think Kubiak is going to stay as Head Coach. If that is the case, this is what I'd like to see happen this offseason and a few questions:

1. Hire Wade Phillips as Defensive Coordinator.
2. What's the deal with Gibbs? Do we need a new Secondary coach?
3. Phillips signs Marcus Spears as a pass rusher (FA).
4. Kubiak/Smith/Phillips sign Champ Bailey (FA) to add veteran leadership at CB.
5. Look for DT help, preferably a good NT and/or pass rusher.
6. Look for Safety help, we need someone with smarts and ballskills.

I think we need to get some veterans on this team on defense for a change. The time to do that is when there is a coaching change. Phillips would probably have some pull to get Spears. Bailey is an unknown but I havn't heard any rumors of contract negotiations with him/Denver and they're having a coaching change too. I think these could be two attainable veteran FA's. Again, when there's a coaching change, they tend to have a little pull with the F.O. to get at least 1 player or 2 that they really want. I think McNair/Smith like the CBs we have with Quin and Jackson and I'm sure they will improve, but I think McNair will be more willing to get some veterans back there after this season. A lot of it may do with Kubiak being on the hot hot seat. And although we've been saying this the last couple years, McNair is probably thinking THIS HAS TO BE THERE YEAR... or else.

Phillips sounds like a brilliant defensive guy. I don't know if we even necessarily have to switch to a 3-4 this offseason. We may play a lot of different formations next year. Come draft time, we need to draft the best playmakers that are available. If that's at WR, do it. If that's a DT, S... do it. We need difference makers on this team. Coupled with the veterans we have and will have added, it would be good. I also think Phillips gives McNair the flexibility if in a year or two, Kubiak gets canned we at least have a viable fall back guy for HC.

I don't change anything on Offense. Keep the staff. I would add some more depth through the draft and if there are any decent FA signings. Mainly interior OL help and WR. If there's a good prospect at WR, I'd take him. Jacoby pisses me off too much. I pray Holliday comes to form and is a stud KR/PR for us. A WR that could also return would be a huge plus.