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TimeKiller
12-07-2010, 09:11 AM
:cool: sigh.....

HOU-TEX
12-07-2010, 09:12 AM
:confused:

GuerillaBlack
12-07-2010, 09:17 AM
Came in this thread expected a top ten list. Got nothing.

Trap_Star
12-07-2010, 09:18 AM
"he's a good kid, he works very hard, but right now we have other kids in front of him that are doing a good job, but he'll get his opportunity...and that's what these league is about, taking advantage of opportunities."

-suckiak

TimeKiller
12-07-2010, 09:18 AM
nevermind

BigBull17
12-07-2010, 09:30 AM
I'm ready for "wish I had played the kid more". I'm tired of our team being so afraid of change that they refuse to give a guy a shot.

Vinnie
12-07-2010, 09:33 AM
I think we should give him a shot at DB.

IDEXAN
12-07-2010, 09:37 AM
He didn't attend Colorado State ?

HuttoKarl
12-07-2010, 09:44 AM
Because we have a glut of TE's and WR's already.

Hmmm...maybe they should have drafted some FS help.....or some good DL help....or some extra LB help.

Nah. We needed two TE's in this draft too.

Fuggin' morons.

V Man
12-07-2010, 09:44 AM
He didn't attend Colorado State ?

Rep sent...

Think this is the winner.

97roc
12-07-2010, 10:37 AM
You'll have to wait the last two games of the season to see him play. He'll have two good games but in the draft, Smithiak with the 2nd pick in the draft goes WR. After the lockout ends and season starts, Dickerson will be our #2 WR and we'll wonder why we wasted a second rounder.

Ryan
12-07-2010, 10:40 AM
Never give me the option to pick more then one in a poll, because i will choose all of them.

Mr teX
12-07-2010, 10:41 AM
Other, Dude can't stay healthy & he likely isn't ready either.

Blake
12-07-2010, 11:09 AM
Kubiak doesnt like his Scorin Dorin nickname, so he benched him. Plus Dorin has no ties with Colorado.

Hagar
12-07-2010, 11:57 AM
We're too stupid to play him.

TimeKiller
12-07-2010, 12:18 PM
Because we have a glut of TE's and WR's already.

Hmmm...maybe they should have drafted some FS help.....or some good DL help....or some extra LB help.

Nah. We needed two TE's in this draft too.

Fuggin' morons.
You think so? Let's take a look:

TE-
Owen Daniels-broken
Joel Dreesen-solid but not outstanding player
James Casey-highly athletic guy that never gets a shot.
Garret Graham-looks like OD, plays like OD....is sitting like OD.
Anthony Hill-for the time being, not broken. Give him 2 or 3 special teams plays, he'll be out in no time. If he stays healthy? **** 'em, we'll never play him especially after we draft another TE next year.

WR-
Andre Johnson-man/beast
Kevin Walter-inconsistent at best? Hasn't made a definitive impact this year.
Jacoby Jones-while it's nice that he is making catches for punt returns, he couldn't catch a cold quarantined in a room full of people with pnuemonia.
David Anderson-situationally, a good player. Realistically? Not a player.
Dorin Dickerson-won't get a shot to play a single down this year for some reason.

You'll have to wait the last two games of the season to see him play. He'll have two good games but in the draft, Smithiak with the 2nd pick in the draft goes WR. After the lockout ends and season starts, Dickerson will be our #2 WR and we'll wonder why we wasted a second rounder.
Winner.

Other, Dude can't stay healthy & he likely isn't ready either.
Haven't heard his name on any injury lists....

Mr teX
12-07-2010, 12:22 PM
You think so? Let's take a look:

TE-
Owen Daniels-broken
Joel Dreesen-solid but not outstanding player
James Casey-highly athletic guy that never gets a shot.
Garret Graham-looks like OD, plays like OD....is sitting like OD.
Anthony Hill-for the time being, not broken. Give him 2 or 3 special teams plays, he'll be out in no time. If he stays healthy? **** 'em, we'll never play him especially after we draft another TE next year.

WR-
Andre Johnson-man/beast
Kevin Walter-inconsistent at best? Hasn't made a definitive impact this year.
Jacoby Jones-while it's nice that he is making catches for punt returns, he couldn't catch a cold quarantined in a room full of people with pnuemonia.
David Anderson-situationally, a good player. Realistically? Not a player.
Dorin Dickerson-won't get a shot to play a single down this year for some reason.


Winner.


Haven't heard his name on any injury lists....

preseason he got nicked up 2 weeks straight i believe.

nut
12-07-2010, 12:28 PM
Texans coach Gary Kubiak says he believes seventh-round pick Dorin Dickerson "has got the body and the tools to be a (number) one or two (receiver) in this league."

Kubiak has never made a mistake and will never make a mistake. He is waiting for the right time to showcase Dickerson's talent.

thegr8fan
12-07-2010, 12:33 PM
we are saving him for our 'secret weapon' to be unleashed in the playoffs so we can go all the way and WIN the Superbowl.

Don't you know Kubiak is way smarter than the rest of the NFL Head Coach's, especially when it comes to picking players and the time to showcase them.

2slik4u
12-07-2010, 12:34 PM
Other.

Dont want to waste his redshirt on a wasted season.

beerlover
12-07-2010, 12:35 PM
Dorin Dickerson was a Rick Smith pick

Norg
12-07-2010, 01:39 PM
Has been been playing in some special Teams Maybe they seen how he sucked there and decided to not advance him

Becasue every single blocker on our ST has SUCKED

GuerillaBlack
12-07-2010, 01:45 PM
Wasn't Dorin injured for a couple of weeks? Not that it matters, since Kubiak would not have played him anyway. Dorin Dickerson is the new Arian Foster.

VTexan
12-07-2010, 02:12 PM
Dorin Dickerson is the new Arian Foster.

Was just about to post the same thought.


FINGERS CROSSED

DexmanC
12-07-2010, 02:33 PM
http://i47.tinypic.com/348j1pv.jpg

John Mclain asked Kubiak why Molden hasn't gotten playing time.

Kubiak responded, "We just haven't like what we see in practice, John."

Mcclain retorted, "Couldn't he be any worse than what's on the field?"

Kubiak, "We'll see, John."

eriadoc
12-07-2010, 04:46 PM
WR is not the easiest position in the NFL. There are a couple positions where players come in and routinely make immediate impact, but WR isn't one of them.

dc_txtech
12-07-2010, 05:05 PM
WR is not the easiest position in the NFL. There are a couple positions where players come in and routinely make immediate impact, but WR isn't one of them.

this

Texanmike02
12-07-2010, 05:13 PM
"Its on me"

Kubiak

Pantherstang84
12-07-2010, 06:46 PM
HOW DARE YOU QUESTION SMITHIAK? :sarcasm:

Speedy
12-07-2010, 07:05 PM
Could have sworn I saw Dickerson in the huddle recently. Jets game I think.

Pollardized
12-07-2010, 08:06 PM
He's never thrown a horrible-ass halfback pass, missed a kick he should have made, didn't go to Colorado State, no Broncos connection... Oh and his last name isn't Brown???????

Honoring Earl 34
12-07-2010, 08:17 PM
The kid ( in Kubiak's voice ) reminds me a lot of Arian Foster last year . Big , strong , fast , good hands , we just can't find a place for him except at CB or safety .

TimeKiller
12-07-2010, 11:11 PM
WR is not the easiest position in the NFL. There are a couple positions where players come in and routinely make immediate impact, but WR isn't one of them.

Marques Colston?

What's easier than catch ball, run with ball? Even Randy Moss can do that. Seriously though, what's easier than WR? Right Guard?

eriadoc
12-07-2010, 11:43 PM
Marques Colston?

What's easier than catch ball, run with ball? Even Randy Moss can do that. Seriously though, what's easier than WR? Right Guard?

Every year there are one or maybe two rookie WRs that come in and make an immediate impact. There are countless WRs that take two to three years to hit their stride. Most early round WRs seem to take a year or two to hit their stride. When you consider that the early round guys are going to get opportunities that guys like DD won't get right away (never mind the position shift), it's not too unusual.

People like to point to Marques Colston like he represents something other than what he really is - an anomaly. How many other 7th round WRs come in as a rookie and do what he did? Without looking it up, I'm going to step out on a limb and say zero. Rod smith had 22 receptions his first two years. Was Jimmy Smith a late round pick? I forget, but he also had 22 catches his first couple years.

Here are some recent examples of early round WRs:

Steve Smith CAR had 10 catches his rookie season and 54 his second year.
Ochocinco had 28 catches his rookie year.
TJ Houshmandzadeh had 21 catches his rookie year.
Reggie Wayne had 27 catches his rookie year.
Roddy White had 29 catches his rookie year and 30 his second.
Vincent Jackson played in 7 games as a rookie and had 3 total catches. He followed that up with 27 catches his 2nd year.
Brandon Marshall had 20 catches his rookie year.
Sidney Rice had 31 and 15 catches his first two years.
Steve Smith NYG had 8 catches his rookie year.

Just for kicks, peruse this list (http://www.drafthistory.com/positions/wr.html) and take a look at how many WRs just flat haven't made it in the NFL or have made very minimal impact. Honestly, after going through the list, Jacoby Jones even looks good. For contrast, take a look at the RB list (http://www.drafthistory.com/positions/rb.html). On defense, LBs pretty routinely make an immediate impact (http://www.drafthistory.com/positions/lb.html).

WRs just take a while.

burro
12-07-2010, 11:49 PM
Probably because Kubiak would rather explain all of his bad decisions at the end of the season than run the risk of making one in the middle of it. This isn't very logical, but neither is most of what Kubes and Co. does/doesn't do.

Ghostform
12-08-2010, 01:15 AM
Because Kubiak hasnt decided if he wants him to be the 10th string TE or 7th string WR. Kubiak also stated that we are weak at the TE position and need to draft 3 more in this years draft.

TimeKiller
12-08-2010, 07:39 AM
People like to point to Marques Colston like he represents something other than what he really is - an anomaly. How many other 7th round WRs come in as a rookie and do what he did? Without looking it up, I'm going to step out on a limb and say zero.
How many got a chance? I pointed to him because he represents exactly what you are saying doesn't happen. He blew up and DD has similar attributes/situation so that's obviously the first name that comes to mind.


Steve Smith CAR had 10 catches his rookie season and 54 his second year.
Ochocinco had 28 catches his rookie year.
TJ Houshmandzadeh had 21 catches his rookie year.
Reggie Wayne had 27 catches his rookie year.
Roddy White had 29 catches his rookie year and 30 his second.
Vincent Jackson played in 7 games as a rookie and had 3 total catches. He followed that up with 27 catches his 2nd year.
Brandon Marshall had 20 catches his rookie year.
Sidney Rice had 31 and 15 catches his first two years.
Steve Smith NYG had 8 catches his rookie year.
I'd be happy if they just acted like he was on this team. Really and truly, if his size/speed combo isn't enough to beat out DA...and his hands aren't enough to beat out JJ...then he needs to be cut so we can get somebody in who is a viable option.

El Tejano
12-08-2010, 07:56 AM
Dorin Dickerson can't catch the slant route.

Trail.Blazr
12-08-2010, 08:28 AM
"he's a good kid, he works very hard, but right now we have other kids in front of him that are doing a good job, but he'll get his opportunity...and that's what these league is about, taking advantage of opportunities."

-suckiak

I agree with this and a couple of similar posts, that he has too much talent in front of him to get any play yet. That said, it wouldn't have hurt my feelings to see him get a shot or two during the season and have JJ or DA sit, just to give the kid some real time and see how he responded.

VTexan
12-08-2010, 09:14 AM
Every year there are one or maybe two rookie WRs that come in and make an immediate impact. There are countless WRs that take two to three years to hit their stride. Most early round WRs seem to take a year or two to hit their stride. When you consider that the early round guys are going to get opportunities that guys like DD won't get right away (never mind the position shift), it's not too unusual.

People like to point to Marques Colston like he represents something other than what he really is - an anomaly. How many other 7th round WRs come in as a rookie and do what he did? Without looking it up, I'm going to step out on a limb and say zero. Rod smith had 22 receptions his first two years. Was Jimmy Smith a late round pick? I forget, but he also had 22 catches his first couple years.

Here are some recent examples of early round WRs:

Steve Smith CAR had 10 catches his rookie season and 54 his second year.
Ochocinco had 28 catches his rookie year.
TJ Houshmandzadeh had 21 catches his rookie year.
Reggie Wayne had 27 catches his rookie year.
Roddy White had 29 catches his rookie year and 30 his second.
Vincent Jackson played in 7 games as a rookie and had 3 total catches. He followed that up with 27 catches his 2nd year.
Brandon Marshall had 20 catches his rookie year.
Sidney Rice had 31 and 15 catches his first two years.
Steve Smith NYG had 8 catches his rookie year.

Just for kicks, peruse this list (http://www.drafthistory.com/positions/wr.html) and take a look at how many WRs just flat haven't made it in the NFL or have made very minimal impact. Honestly, after going through the list, Jacoby Jones even looks good. For contrast, take a look at the RB list (http://www.drafthistory.com/positions/rb.html). On defense, LBs pretty routinely make an immediate impact (http://www.drafthistory.com/positions/lb.html).

WRs just take a while.


that's cool and all but we aren't asking him to start. hell even be the 3rd receiver. We would just like to seem him once or twice.

eriadoc
12-08-2010, 10:15 AM
I'd be happy if they just acted like he was on this team. Really and truly, if his size/speed combo isn't enough to beat out DA...and his hands aren't enough to beat out JJ...then he needs to be cut so we can get somebody in who is a viable option.

that's cool and all but we aren't asking him to start. hell even be the 3rd receiver. We would just like to seem him once or twice.

I don't disagree with any of that, and I'd like to see DD get a shot as well. I was just refuting the notion that WR is the easiest position. Judging by past results, it's clearly not.

TimeKiller
12-08-2010, 04:27 PM
Dorin Dickerson can't catch the slant route.

How would you know that? Do you work for the Texans?

I don't disagree with any of that, and I'd like to see DD get a shot as well. I was just refuting the notion that WR is the easiest position. Judging by past results, it's clearly not.

Agree to disagree!

wagonhed
12-08-2010, 07:13 PM
I think it's pretty clear that RB is the easiest position to play, at least until your body breaks down. Other than that and maybe LB I'd definitely put receiver up there.

Btw this thread upsets me every time I see it. I can't believe we haven't been playing this guy instead of what we have.

GP
12-08-2010, 08:40 PM
Dorin Dickerson can't catch the slant route.

Tell me the last time we threw a slant pass.

I can't remember it.

$10 to the person who can identify the last time we threw a slant pass, and to which player was on the receiving end of the slant pass play.

I don't even think there has been one this season. Every freaking pass play is a long-developing, down-the-field play.

JB
12-08-2010, 08:43 PM
Tell me the last time we threw a slant pass.

I can't remember it.

$10 to the person who can identify the last time we threw a slant pass, and to which player was on the receiving end of the slant pass play.

I don't even think there has been one this season. Every freaking pass play is a long-developing, down-the-field play.

Your right. I don't recall a quick hitting slant in quite a while.

infantrycak
12-08-2010, 09:10 PM
You don't remember the quick slants because they aren't sexy and result in 60 yd TD's regularly. We have run a number of slants this year. We can argue (uselessly) about what percentage but they have definitely been run.

CretorFrigg
12-08-2010, 09:13 PM
You don't remember the quick slants because they aren't sexy and result in 60 yd TD's regularly. We have run a number of slants this year. We can argue (uselessly) about what percentage but they have definitely been run.

Slant routes are usually just short, high percentage passes that happens to be quite effective against man coverage. Like you said, slant routes don't result in TD's regularly.

...unless you're Santonio Holmes playing against the Texans' defense.

eriadoc
12-08-2010, 09:52 PM
Slant routes are usually just short, high percentage passes that happens to be quite effective against man coverage. Like you said, slant routes don't result in TD's regularly.

...unless you're Santonio Holmes playing against the Texans' defense.

Or Roy Williams. Or Seyi Ajirotutu.

pbat488
12-08-2010, 10:08 PM
the braintrust thought it was eric dickerson's son and were disappointed when he showed up for mini camp and told them he wasn't.

El Tejano
12-08-2010, 11:48 PM
Tell me the last time we threw a slant pass.

I can't remember it.

$10 to the person who can identify the last time we threw a slant pass, and to which player was on the receiving end of the slant pass play.

I don't even think there has been one this season. Every freaking pass play is a long-developing, down-the-field play.

We've thrown them enough this year. However I recall a preseason game where he basically helped us lose that game because he couldn't haul in 3rd and 5 catches from John David Booty. He was consistently letting the ball hit his body and not catching with his hands.

Add his injury and alot of valuable time will be missed on the field on Sundays.

GuerillaBlack
12-09-2010, 12:05 AM
We've thrown them enough this year. However I recall a preseason game where he basically helped us lose that game because he couldn't haul in 3rd and 5 catches from John David Booty. He was consistently letting the ball hit his body and not catching with his hands.

Add his injury and alot of valuable time will be missed on the field on Sundays.

That was the game where he made that one-handed catch on the sidelines.

TimeKiller
12-10-2010, 10:29 AM
Yeah. Judge him on his rookie preseason. That's probably why Jacoby Jones is still getting a shot....


All year we've gotten to watch no name guys make it big on our defense but we don't even get a shot to see anybody drafted below the 3rd round unless a wildfire of injuries occur.

GP
12-10-2010, 10:55 AM
I voted "We should've played this kid more...."

It's the Kubiak way: Glacial change. Slow and steady. Why run when you can walk? Etc. etc.

EDIT: LOL. And look how many other people voted similarly. We know what's up.

GP
12-10-2010, 10:59 AM
You don't remember the quick slants because they aren't sexy and result in 60 yd TD's regularly. We have run a number of slants this year. We can argue (uselessly) about what percentage but they have definitely been run.

Reply to JB's post. That was just prior to yours.

We haven't thrown slant passes, 'Cak. in a similar series of events, we also had not been throwing the screen pass for several games.

This team is jacked. It's like visiting Willy Wonka's factory..except you could actually see and touch his creations. Here? It's a philosophy by Kubiak that is getting weirder by the season.

texanfan2002114
12-10-2010, 11:10 AM
He has played this year and can't stay healthy. I know for 100% that he was on the field during f0r the game they worn pink gloves and shoes for breast cancer awareness because I have his gloves from that game.

BigBull17
12-10-2010, 11:22 AM
Reply to JB's post. That was just prior to yours.

We haven't thrown slant passes, 'Cak. in a similar series of events, we also had not been throwing the screen pass for several games.

This team is jacked. It's like visiting Willy Wonka's factory..except you could actually see and touch his creations. Here? It's a philosophy by Kubiak that is getting weirder by the season.

Yeah, we have one of the best screen teams in the NFL, yet we really don't like to use them against teams that bring heat. Don't expect them vs Baltimore.

TimeKiller
12-10-2010, 11:57 AM
He has played this year and can't stay healthy. I know for 100% that he was on the field during f0r the game they worn pink gloves and shoes for breast cancer awareness because I have his gloves from that game.

Maybe if you count special teams.....

I do not.

Hervoyel
12-10-2010, 12:53 PM
I find myself relieved that we haven't seen Dorin Dickerson yet. I wish we were still debating the relative merits of Kareem Jackson. I long for the day when we aren't expecting rookies to come in and save our asses and dread the idea that we need a 7th round WR converted from TE to help our passing game out.

Other teams have starters return year after year with all the experience that entails. We draft a slew of guys each year and pray that enough of them will be players ala the 2006 draft class to push us over the top and into the playoffs. That's just not the way this works.

For the players who are getting all the reps right now it's S*it or get off the pot time and as you all know many of them are flunking the test. We need veterans to perform not 7th round projects. Would Dorin Dickerson be playing for the Patriots, Steelers, or Ravens right now? It's unlikely and so he shouldn't be playing much if any for us at this point.

ArlingtonTexan
12-10-2010, 01:06 PM
I find myself relieved that we haven't seen Dorin Dickerson yet. I wish we were still debating the relative merits of Kareem Jackson. I long for the day when we aren't expecting rookies to come in and save our asses and dread the idea that we need a 7th round WR converted from TE to help our passing game out.

Other teams have starters return year after year with all the experience that entails. We draft a slew of guys each year and pray that enough of them will be players ala the 2006 draft class to push us over the top and into the playoffs. That's just not the way this works.

For the players who are getting all the reps right now it's S*it or get off the pot time and as you all know many of them are flunking the test. We need veterans to perform not 7th round projects. Would Dorin Dickerson be playing for the Patriots, Steelers, or Ravens right now? It's unlikely and so he shouldn't be playing much if any for us at this point.

Thanks for some logic on this subject.

Battle Red Flash
12-10-2010, 02:59 PM
Just like Casey last year.
"I should have got the kid on the field more last year, that's on me."

YOU BET IT IS.

Why has Casey not lined up at FB and thrown a pass? Not once? Ever?
If we cut Casey, the Pats pick him up and make him a star. Just watch.

NO IMAGINATION-IAK

DexmanC
12-10-2010, 03:49 PM
Just like Casey last year.
"I should have got the kid on the field more last year, that's on me."

YOU BET IT IS.

Why has Casey not lined up at FB and thrown a pass? Not once? Ever?
If we cut Casey, the Pats pick him up and make him a star. Just watch.

NO IMAGINATION-IAK

Good point. Belichick lauded Casey after the draft last season. If he's let
go by the Texans, he'd be immediately scooped by the Pats. Casey
is just the kind of player the Patriots always draft in the late rounds.

JB
12-10-2010, 03:52 PM
Good point. Belichick lauded Casey after the draft last season. If he's let
go by the Texans, he'd be immediately scooped by the Pats. Casey
is just the kind of player the Patriots always draft in the late rounds.



Belicheck would turn him into a pro bowl LB in 2 years...

bckey
12-10-2010, 04:19 PM
Dorin doesn't make as much as our other wr's so therefore he can't possibly be better.

eriadoc
12-10-2010, 05:37 PM
Look, a 7th round draft pick that's never played WR before is just not ready. The only reason this is a topic of discussion at all is because none of us have any faith in our current coaching staff. DD would not be getting playing time on a team that had a coach worth a damn, and frankly might be on a practice squad learning to play the position. Sure, he showed a couple flashes in the preseason, and I'm excited about the guy long term. But it's not an easy position to learn and he's never played it before. If we had any faith in Kubiak's ability to handle talent appropriately, we wouldn't even be talking about this, IMO.