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Mari-OWNED!
11-11-2010, 05:02 PM
http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.aspx?sport=nfl&id=3670

Texans claimed CB Jason Allen off waivers from the Dolphins.

It's nice pickup for a secondary in need of a talent infusion, though Allen isn't a great bet to make an immediate impact. The Texans seem intent on letting Kareem Jackson play his way through a rocky rookie season. With the ability to also play safety, Allen will be primarily a backup and special teamer in the short term.

jaayteetx
11-11-2010, 05:06 PM
Championship!!!

steelbtexan
11-11-2010, 05:08 PM
Well atleast they're trying.

Allen has played FS before.

Hervoyel
11-11-2010, 05:09 PM
Dude will look like Asomugha playing back there with our special needs kids.

silvrhand
11-11-2010, 05:09 PM
hey at least we got him, that's hopefully something to help us at FS.

brakos82
11-11-2010, 05:10 PM
Well, he's better than Vista.

jaayteetx
11-11-2010, 05:13 PM
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/fb/texansfront/7290339.html
To make room, Barber placed on IR.

TexansSeminole
11-11-2010, 05:13 PM
Well atleast they're trying.

Allen has played FS before.

Pretty poorly.

Been watching the Dolphins for years, this guy isn't going to be any better than Jackson or Quin. He will beat out McCain though, or should, but that isn't saying much considering McCain is getting worked on almost every play.

FYI, the Dolphins claimed Al Harris and waived Jason Allen (http://www.palmbeachpost.com/sports/dolphins/miami-dolphins-sign-veteran-cornerback-al-harris-and-1038122.html). Why can't we pick up Al Harris, instead of wait for a team to pick him up and take their castoff? :pissed:

Al Harris is exactly what the Texans need, a veteran who has been a great player and could still be. Not a veteran who was never any good, see new Texan Jason Allen.

Hervoyel
11-11-2010, 05:23 PM
Pretty poorly.

Been watching the Dolphins for years, this guy isn't going to be any better than Jackson or Quin. He will beat out McCain though, or should, but that isn't saying much considering McCain is getting worked on almost every play.

FYI, the Dolphins claimed Al Harris and waived Jason Allen (http://www.palmbeachpost.com/sports/dolphins/miami-dolphins-sign-veteran-cornerback-al-harris-and-1038122.html). Why can't we pick up Al Harris, instead of wait for a team to pick him up and take their castoff? :pissed:

Al Harris is exactly what the Texans need, a veteran who has been a great player and could still be. Not a veteran who was never any good, see new Texan Jason Allen.

Because we signed Ahman Green and Rick & Gary looked bad as a result.

JWarren14
11-11-2010, 05:27 PM
Pretty poorly.

Been watching the Dolphins for years, this guy isn't going to be any better than Jackson or Quin. He will beat out McCain though, or should, but that isn't saying much considering McCain is getting worked on almost every play.

FYI, the Dolphins claimed Al Harris and waived Jason Allen (http://www.palmbeachpost.com/sports/dolphins/miami-dolphins-sign-veteran-cornerback-al-harris-and-1038122.html). Why can't we pick up Al Harris, instead of wait for a team to pick him up and take their castoff? :pissed:

Al Harris is exactly what the Texans need, a veteran who has been a great player and could still be. Not a veteran who was never any good, see new Texan Jason Allen.

Are we ahead of Miami on Waivers? We have the same record, but better division record...

TexansSeminole
11-11-2010, 05:28 PM
Because we signed Ahman Green and Rick & Gary looked bad as a result.

Ahh, I see. Maybe with our stellar defensive coaching we can turn this "kid's" career around.

drewmar74
11-11-2010, 05:30 PM
Well atleast they're trying.

And this season started with such promise.....

painekiller
11-11-2010, 05:31 PM
Are we ahead of Miami on Waivers? We have the same record, but better division record...

My understanding was that Al Harris cleared waivers and was free to sign with anyone he wanted to. No one wanted to pick up Harris's 2+Million in salary was my understanding.

False Start
11-11-2010, 05:33 PM
And this season started with such promise.....

Yup. Its sad to have to say that.

Lets see what he can do, hell he couldn't possibly be worse than what they have now....... can he? :thinking:

brakos82
11-11-2010, 05:34 PM
Are we ahead of Miami on Waivers? We have the same record, but better division record...

Tried googling it, but all I got was week-old stuff about Randy Moss.

drewmar74
11-11-2010, 05:37 PM
He's gonna be shocked when he sees page 1 of the defensive playbook!

http://jellybelly.cachefly.net/Jelly-Belly/Downloads/ideasimages/BirthdayColoringPages/MrJB_FootballReceiver.jpg

"Okay, Texans! You can pass on sweets before dinner but don't let the opposition pass on you!"

False Start
11-11-2010, 05:48 PM
After his first practice he will be served this as his first meal. Its what all the DBs eat, gotta be a team player.


http://www.rubinville.com/dailydave/uploaded_images/burnt_toast-724090.jpg

CretorFrigg
11-11-2010, 05:55 PM
I'd like to welcome Jason Allen to our defense! Here's a sneak peak, Mr. Allen:

http://www.batailley.net/images/20090826165421__mg_5732.jpg

I'm fairly excited about this pick-up because we get to add another former first round draft pick into our defensive line-up! If draft positions were a fair indicator of a player's talent, we'd be unstoppable. Our arsenal of first rounders in this defense sure are abundant.

Anyways, earlier reports state that Jason Allen is constantly tested by opposing quarterbacks; he's also prone to slipping and is reportedly atrocious when it comes to zone defense due to his inability to read offenses. Tackling and man-defense are his forte. Kareem Jackson #2, anyone?

With that said, I'd like to give Rick Smith and Gary Kubiak some praise for attempting to patch-up our Swiss cheese/marshmallow defense. . . a couple weeks too late.

moonsh0t
11-11-2010, 06:31 PM
I'm fairly optimistic about this pick up. He's not going to fix our problems, but this has to be an improvement over McCain

Corrosion
11-11-2010, 06:38 PM
Well, he's better than Vista.

The same cant be said about the rest of the Texans Defense or lack there-of.


They are the one thing I can think of right now thats worse than Vista.

steelbtexan
11-11-2010, 06:45 PM
My understanding was that Al Harris cleared waivers and was free to sign with anyone he wanted to. No one wanted to pick up Harris's 2+Million in salary was my understanding.

Yep

This explains why Harris wasn't picked up off waivers.

Kinda like why Pollard wasn't picked up off waivers and instead signed as a FA after week 2. Pollards contract last yr became non garunteed. Like Harris' is for the Dolphins this yr.

Goatcheese
11-11-2010, 06:47 PM
When I saw the news flash that the Texans had signed Miami CB Allen I was really excited. Then I check and realized it was Jason Allen and not Will Allen and I died a little on the inside.

b0ng
11-11-2010, 06:52 PM
Best CB on the roster.

SheTexan
11-11-2010, 07:04 PM
Well, they needed to do something to calm the fans and media down. Doubt he'll be of much use because Kubiak is hell bent on keeping his "young" secondary, but, he at least did something to pacify the fans. Just a "front" IMHO, but, I'll try to think positive. :headhurts:

Thorn
11-11-2010, 07:48 PM
I'm not to exicited about this, but if he can help, then good. That defense can use any kind of help it can get at this point.

CloakNNNdagger
11-11-2010, 09:23 PM
Browsing the Fins MBs, a summary would be:

*Good STer

*Punishing and solid tackler

*Prototype size and more than adequate speed (4.39 40)

*A player who makes some great plays............generously sprinkled with lapses of concentration leading to toast material

*Safety may be the better consideration (less need for complicated decision tree............but scary if "lapse" occurs as "line of last resort."

*Sabin screwed him up by constantly switching him back and forth from CB to S.

*Glad they're not facing the Texans...............with a new coaching staff, they would worry that they would be playing against the second coming of Nnamdi Asomugha.

hradhak
11-11-2010, 09:50 PM
IIRC Al Harris is from Florida. So he probably went there because he wanted to be closer to home.

brakos82
11-11-2010, 09:51 PM
After his first practice he will be served this as his first meal. Its what all the DBs eat, gotta be a team player.


http://www.rubinville.com/dailydave/uploaded_images/burnt_toast-724090.jpg

http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb23/brakos82/texastoast.png

steelbtexan
11-11-2010, 10:10 PM
http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb23/brakos82/texastoast.png



LOL

This Allen move is the equivalent to scraping the back off the toast and putting jam on it. It tastes better but still tastes like burnt toast with jam.

GNTLEWOLF
11-11-2010, 10:30 PM
I see this as a PR move to calm the fans. The idea here being that they can say that the at least tried to make an improvement. also if they don't get significantly better, then they can feel good that the "staying with what they had " move was the right one all along and trying the free agency thing never works. This will of course be all that some fans need to say..."well see they tried to make an improvement" ...and " no team ever improves with free agents."
The upshot here is this is all part and parcell of the job saving move. No real progress made. No wins produced, but it looks like they are trying on paper.

Mr. White
11-11-2010, 10:31 PM
IIRC Al Harris is from Florida. So he probably went there because he wanted to be closer to home.

That was the word on Zeirlein's Twitter page yesterday. He said the Texans were going after Harris pretty hard.

NitroGSXR
11-11-2010, 10:38 PM
Browsing the Fins MBs, a summary would be:

*Good STer

*Punishing and solid tackler

*Prototype size and more than adequate speed (4.39 40)

*A player who makes some great plays............generously sprinkled with lapses of concentration leading to toast material

*Safety may be the better consideration (less need for complicated decision tree............but scary if "lapse" occurs as "line of last resort."

*Sabin screwed him up by constantly switching him back and forth from CB to S.

*Glad they're not facing the Texans...............with a new coaching staff, they would worry that they would be playing against the second coming of Nnamdi Asomugha.

:spit:

They're not referring to Gibbs now are they?

Hervoyel
11-11-2010, 10:57 PM
Since this was announced I've been wondering if he might end up being useful. We've sent players to other teams who ended up performing. Even Phillip Buchanon is still kicking around the league and having a good game now and then for the Redskins.

It's not like nobody ever turned their careers around after being given up on.

This guy just might surprise us. He probably won't and I think it's safest to assume nothing. No sense getting our hopes up. It's not entirely impossible though that he might help.

TexansSeminole
11-12-2010, 12:44 AM
*Sabin screwed him up by constantly switching him back and forth from CB to S.

From what I remember, and this is purely off memory, Jason Allen was Saban's first pick in the NFL draft. I remember that Saban tried to find a role for him on a pretty horrible defense and the guy really stood out by making poor plays. It was the first thing that really went wrong for Saban in Miami.

Goatcheese
11-12-2010, 12:52 AM
I see this as a PR move to calm the fans. The idea here being that they can say that the at least tried to make an improvement. also if they don't get significantly better, then they can feel good that the "staying with what they had " move was the right one all along and trying the free agency thing never works. This will of course be all that some fans need to say..."well see they tried to make an improvement" ...and " no team ever improves with free agents."
The upshot here is this is all part and parcell of the job saving move. No real progress made. No wins produced, but it looks like they are trying on paper.

You're reading way too much into this. He was claimed because Barber went on IR and they needed a body. They felt he was the best they could get at the moment.

TexansSeminole
11-12-2010, 12:54 AM
The upshot here is this is all part and parcell of the job saving move. No real progress made. No wins produced, but it looks like they are trying on paper.

Sounds so much like the political world it's scary.

I don't think that's what they are trying to do. I think they want to have a young team that they can build with so they go for young players, regardless of skill level. Brice McCain was a 7th rounder out of Utah with great measurables. He was relatively untested last year playing in a reduced roll. For some reason, the Texans come out this season and act like this guy is ready to be a starter or something with the way they've handled the cornerback situation. Not only is McCain young and not ready to be a nickel back but they also have 2 starters that are equally if not younger than McCain. The #4 cornerback is a rookie, and #5 has never been healthy for an entire season, or wait was he healthy for his rookie season? Doesn't matter because he saw zero meaningful time at cornerback.

I think Rick and Gary aren't interested in making big moves in free agency unless they absolutely steal the player. They've had a few bad free agent signings in the past, and their handling of the cornerback situation this year is proof enough. Everybody was talking about Dunta last year, but what about Reeves. Reeves played better (edit: at first I wrote more games :/, tired) than Dunta last year and fit more into what the Texans were going for and they still refused to resign him. I was all for letting Dunta go but when we didn't resign Reeves I was befuddled.

Jason Allen is like a lottery ticket. The guy had promise coming out of college, but has proven to be a mistake prone player at a position(s) where that isn't acceptable. Maybe he turns it on one day, maybe he plays well for 8 games and can save Kubiak's job (Pollard anyone?). Whatever he's cheap and young, why not?

TheMatrix31
11-12-2010, 03:33 AM
I'll take it.

Mean Machine
11-12-2010, 08:54 AM
I like this pick up.
THis guy is young and sometimes getting cut is that WAKE UP call some of these guys need to get their act together.
He was a 1st rounder so he obviously has talent, and maybe , just maybe he can prove he was worth that 1st round pick back in '06.
I feel the same way about Anderson on the def line. I would rather pick up young guys who MAY have a an upside, rather than somebody on the way down.

GO TEXANS!

gtexan02
11-12-2010, 08:57 AM
At least we didn't give up multiple picks to get him (Pburnt experience)

Thats improvement from the casserly era. We get washed up first round DBs who will probably perform even worse here than on the team that originally didn't want them, but now we get them for free.


DBs that come here midseason always seem to play really really well for the season they join and then fall off the face of the Earth. Lets hope Allen proves to be part of the trend for at least this season

Blake
11-12-2010, 09:23 AM
Where is he going to play? I thought he was a safety. Lets see if he can fill in up top.

Mr teX
11-12-2010, 09:39 AM
For all those crying about why we didn't get Al Harris..1st of all, the texans went after him pretty hard..or at least that's the word. 2nd, the guy was coming off a major knee injury & it's not even known what the guy will look like. 3rd, he's got family in miami & he wanted to go there & in that regard case closed.

For all the talk about getting a veteran in to help the young kids at cb, some of us sure are picky. What the hell did you think we'd be able to get at the mid point in the season Darrelle Revis? Sure the guy has had his share of issues, but i'm sure some thought the same thing about pollard when we picked him up off the street last year.

At the end of the day, I doubt Allen can be any worse than what we've ran with for 8 games & gotten torched with. If he makes even 1 or 2 more plays a game that our secondary wasn't making before, he's gonna be an improvement.

steelbtexan
11-12-2010, 10:12 AM
For all those crying about why we didn't get Al Harris..1st of all, the texans went after him pretty hard..or at least that's the word. 2nd, the guy was coming off a major knee injury & it's not even known what the guy will look like. 3rd, he's got family in miami & he wanted to go there & in that regard case closed.

For all the talk about getting a veteran in to help the young kids at cb, some of us sure are picky. What the hell did you think we'd be able to get at the mid point in the season Darrelle Revis? Sure the guy has had his share of issues, but i'm sure some thought the same thing about pollard when we picked him up off the street last year.

At the end of the day, I doubt Allen can be any worse than what we've ran with for 8 games & gotten torched with. If he makes even 1 more play or 2 a game that our secondary wasn't making before, he's gonna be an improvement.

If the Texans truly wanted Harris they could have gooten him by simply putting in a waiver claim on him and taken on his contract.

The fact that they didn't do this says

1. They really didn't want Harris.
2. They wanted to pick up Harris witout taking on his existing contract.

I like the Allen pickup BTW. He's young and cant be any worse than what we've seen through the 1st eight weeks of the season.

ArlingtonTexan
11-12-2010, 10:48 AM
If the Texans truly wanted Harris they could have gooten him by simply putting in a waiver claim on him and taken on his contract.

The fact that they didn't do this says

1. They really didn't want Harris.
2. They wanted to pick up Harris witout taking on his existing contract.I like the Allen pickup BTW. He's young and cant be any worse than what we've seen through the 1st eight weeks of the season.

There is the answer. Nobody in the NFL wanted to pay 3 million for old age and bad knees. Not going to kill them for passing on that gamble. More pissed that they did not have a true plan B for 2 rookies and 2 second year corners.

HOU-TEX
11-12-2010, 10:50 AM
Didn't want to start another negative thread. This is just ugly

Among NFL cornerbacks, only DeAngelo Hall (615) has allowed more receiving yards than Kareem Jackson's 580 this season.

Opposing QBs are 32-of-63 for 580 yards and four TDs against Jackson and 27-of-46 for 370 yards and three TDs against Glover Quin. The worst offender by far, though, is strong safety Bernard Pollard, who has been burned at a rate of 22-of-29 for 370 yards and seven TDs(!).

http://www.rotoworld.com/Content/home_NFL.aspx

thunderkyss
11-12-2010, 10:52 AM
Well, they needed to do something to calm the fans and media down. Doubt he'll be of much use because Kubiak is hell bent on keeping his "young" secondary, but, he at least did something to pacify the fans. Just a "front" IMHO, but, I'll try to think positive. :headhurts:

I'm thinking it's probably more of a health issue, most likely with Molden.

They say they have high hopes on him, but he can't even get on the field.

badboy
11-12-2010, 11:01 AM
"What a plan, what a plan what a mighty fine plan" sung by Robert "Bob" McNair.

nero THE zero
11-12-2010, 11:26 AM
Didn't want to start another negative thread. This is just ugly
http://www.rotoworld.com/Content/home_NFL.aspx
The worst offender by far, though, is strong safety Bernard Pollard, who has been burned at a rate of 22-of-29 for 370 yards and seven TDs(!).

Wow.

I'd be shocked to see him in a Texans' uniform next season.

drewmar74
11-12-2010, 11:30 AM
Wow.

I'd be shocked to see him in a Texans' uniform next season.

Yeah. That's really, really super bad.

I wonder if they'll continue to start him.... Of course, I don't know who else they could trot out there, but damn. That's bad.

Texan4Ever
11-12-2010, 11:34 AM
Wow.

I'd be shocked to see him in a Texans' uniform next season.



Maybe there WAS a reason why the Cheifs let him go?

TEXANS84
11-12-2010, 11:38 AM
Yeah. That's really, really super bad.

I wonder if they'll continue to start him.... Of course, I don't know who else they could trot out there, but damn. That's bad.

Nah, we'll continue to draft defense and continue to be the worst in the NFL.

Thorn
11-12-2010, 11:40 AM
For whatever reason, our defense sucks major ass. This is after spending a lot of high draft choices on it. Is it the coaching? Is it the front office drafting mistakes?

Whatever the **** it is, it's getting old. Teams just march up and down the field on us and all we ever hear is "We're gonna change **something**".

I can tell you what **something** I'd like to see changed. :pissed:

The1ApplePie
11-12-2010, 11:40 AM
Maybe there WAS a reason why the Cheifs let him go?

Pretty much.

His only game is hitting the **** out of people. With the new rules, that has been watered down.

Kind of like when they told Roy Williams he couldn't horse-collar people any more.

Its always good to have an enforcer on your defense though, and Pollard fits that well.

badboy
11-12-2010, 11:52 AM
For whatever reason, our defense sucks major ass. This is after spending a lot of high draft choices on it. Is it the coaching? Is it the front office drafting mistakes?
Whatever the **** it is, it's getting old. Teams just march up and down the field on us and all we ever hear is "We're gonna change **something**".

I can tell you what **something** I'd like to see changed. :pissed:
For the most part it is the same guy= Gary Kubiak makes the calls on draft day. There was a hint shortly after the last draft that the war room was split over drafting Tate rather than Toby Gerhart.

BigBull17
11-12-2010, 11:57 AM
Wow.

I'd be shocked to see him in a Texans' uniform next season.

When I read that my chin hit the floor. Time to move him to Will LBer. PLay Nolan at SS. 7 tds is WAY too many. I don't see how a t guy working at Wal-Mart could do worse than that. Un freakin believable.

thunderkyss
11-12-2010, 11:59 AM
Wow.

I'd be shocked to see him in a Texans' uniform next season.

Or they can get back to playing the downhill fast style we played last year..... let the back end take care of itself....

If the offense can become more consistent & put drives together, the defense would be may have more success, similar to what they had last year.

This playing scared stuff we're doing isn't working. Let's get back to what worked.

Mr teX
11-12-2010, 12:09 PM
Didn't want to start another negative thread. This is just ugly



http://www.rotoworld.com/Content/home_NFL.aspx

he's running down hill too damn fast. Somebody needs to tell him "hey bernard, you're a defensive back, not an lb, play the pass 1st dude!"

Yankee_In_TX
11-12-2010, 12:16 PM
Dude will look like Asomugha playing back there with our special needs kids.

Must spread rep, but I did literally laugh out loud.

Dishman
11-12-2010, 12:18 PM
For whatever reason, our defense sucks major ass. This is after spending a lot of high draft choices on it. Is it the coaching? Is it the front office drafting mistakes?

Whatever the **** it is, it's getting old. Teams just march up and down the field on us and all we ever hear is "We're gonna change **something**".

I can tell you what **something** I'd like to see changed. :pissed:

McNair just needs to clean house. :hides:

Errant Hothy
11-12-2010, 12:25 PM
Wow.

I'd be shocked to see him in a Texans' uniform next season.

To some of us this is not a surprise.

Me, and yes I'm bragging a little, for isntance.
http://www.texanstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=76479

Dread-Head
11-12-2010, 12:27 PM
It doesn't matter HOW good he is if he's working for BUSH!

Errant Hothy
11-12-2010, 12:31 PM
It doesn't matter HOW good he is if he's working for BUSH!

Don't all men work for bush?

jaayteetx
11-12-2010, 12:37 PM
Wow.

I'd be shocked to see him in a Texans' uniform next season.

How do you "target" a safety? How do we know some of those TDs they are crediting toward Pollard, aren't really on some other guy for blowing his assignment? Or vice versa for that matter. I don't trust stats like that. What I trust is what I see on the field, which is a defense last in too many catagories. Better start turning that around come Sunday is all I gots to say.

Mr teX
11-12-2010, 12:39 PM
It doesn't matter HOW good he is if he's working for BUSH!

2 different d-coordinators, a couple of different position coaches & gerber-age babies at cb.....................all this, & we basically still have the same issues we've had since before Kubiak. Do you really still think its bush?

BigBull17
11-12-2010, 12:43 PM
2 different d-coordinators, a couple of different position coaches & gerber-age babies at cb.....................all this, & we basically still have the same issues we've had since before Kubiak. Do you really still think its bush?

Yeah. Cause even with sub standard talent, we wouldn't look this bad with a decent coach.

Mr teX
11-12-2010, 12:47 PM
How do you "target" a safety? How do we know some of those TDs they are crediting toward Pollard, aren't really on some other guy for blowing his assignment? Or vice versa for that matter. I don't trust stats like that. What I trust is what I see on the field, which is a defense last in too many catagories. Better start turning that around come Sunday is all I gots to say.

maybe 1 or 2 of those TDs aren't exclusively on him, but too many times this year i've seen pollard leaning or flat out cheating some other way looking for a certain route in zone coverage & by doing that he's widened a hole that should've been squeezed down had he just played honest. The best example of that is Nick's 2nd TD in the Giants game. I truly belive he thinks he's quicker & faster than he really is b/c that's the only reason why you would continue to do that crap.

jaayteetx
11-12-2010, 12:49 PM
maybe 1 or 2 of those TDs aren't exclusively on him, but too many times this year i've seen pollard leaning or flat out cheating some other way looking for a certain route in zone coverage & by doing that he's widened a hole that should've been squeezed down had he just played honest. The best example of that is Nick's 2nd TD in the Giants game. I truly belive he thinks he's quicker & faster than he really is b/c that's the only reason why you would continue to do that crap.

That may be, maybe he feels like he has to "cheat" a little to make up for our young corners? Or maybe he just sucks, I dunno.

Mr teX
11-12-2010, 12:53 PM
Yeah. Cause even with sub standard talent, we wouldn't look this bad with a decent coach.

you sure about that? last year with better cb's & no real key injuries, we looked alot better as a defense...not stout, but way better than we look now. All of a sudden this year, we're terrible & only 1 thing has changed from last year....Cb's.

thunderkyss
11-12-2010, 12:56 PM
What I trust is what I see on the field, which is a defense last in too many catagories. Better start turning that around come Sunday is all I gots to say.

Did you know the Texans are ranked 10 in rushing defense?

I'm sure that has something to do with everyone throwing on us. Like the Colts are 5th in pass D because everybody (but us) runs on them.

Yards per attempt, we allow 4 yards per attempt. Just like the Ravens.

Just thought that was interesting.

BigBull17
11-12-2010, 01:42 PM
you sure about that? last year with better cb's & no real key injuries, we looked alot better as a defense...not stout, but way better than we look now. All of a sudden this year, we're terrible & only 1 thing has changed from last year....Cb's.

But there are absolutely no adjustments being made. Thats coaching. Our whole D stands in place until you snap the ball. We blandly rush four and drop everyone else in coverage. Or we run a blitz package that my nephew can see a mile away. We lack talent, thats true, but we don't adjust our game plan based off of the players we have.

beerlover
11-12-2010, 02:05 PM
Did you know the Texans are ranked 10 in rushing defense?

I'm sure that has something to do with everyone throwing on us. Like the Colts are 5th in pass D because everybody (but us) runs on them.

Yards per attempt, we allow 4 yards per attempt. Just like the Ravens.

Just thought that was interesting.

pretty easy decision for teams to make don't you think? test the 32nd pass & the 25th sack defense or run the rock aganst the #12 run defense :chef:

beerlover
11-12-2010, 02:08 PM
Allen is Domininque Barbers replacement now & going forward on special teams w/spot duty in secondary.

Mr teX
11-12-2010, 02:33 PM
But there are absolutely no adjustments being made. Thats coaching. Our whole D stands in place until you snap the ball. We blandly rush four and drop everyone else in coverage. Or we run a blitz package that my nephew can see a mile away. We lack talent, thats true, but we don't adjust our game plan based off of the players we have.


What adjustments can be made to stop Okoye from getting owned in the middle?

What exactly can you do from an adjustment stand point to get these guys to tackle better & close out on routes faster?

Disguising doesn't do much to help in that dept...especially when you're playing against the likes of a Manning & Rivers. They suck on defense mainly b/c they don't have enough guys who can get it done & b/c they don't have enough talent to dictate anything to the offense. Outside of mario, who else commands a double team/chip on the D-line? Who of the Lb/Db core does the quarterback try to avoid when the throwing the ball? the answer is nobody. There just aren't enough guys winning their 1 on 1 battles consistently, & that is talent moreso than scheme.

drewmar74
11-12-2010, 02:36 PM
Can we bring Gilbert Brown back out of retirement?

playa465
11-12-2010, 07:08 PM
What adjustments can be made to stop Okoye from getting owned in the middle?

What exactly can you do from an adjustment stand point to get these guys to tackle better & close out on routes faster?

Disguising doesn't do much to help in that dept...especially when you're playing against the likes of a Manning & Rivers. They suck on defense mainly b/c they don't have enough guys who can get it done & b/c they don't have enough talent to dictate anything to the offense. Outside of mario, who else commands a double team/chip on the D-line? Who of the Lb/Db core does the quarterback try to avoid when the throwing the ball? the answer is nobody. There just aren't enough guys winning their 1 on 1 battles consistently, & that is talent moreso than scheme.

Correct...sometimes I think we over-value our players on this team b/c we are fans and we tend to think we know them better since we follow them. Then after a season or 2 we start to slide over and see them for what they really are with a few exceptions. Every player that comes into the NFL won't be a star but the coaching MUST work with the players on development AND game planning. When it doesn't work something has to give and sometimes both (players and coaches).

Wolf
11-14-2010, 12:02 PM
he is showing to be inactive today

guess they couldn't dumb down the scheme quick enough

:sarcasm:


actually I am impatient right now for some kind of spark in the secondary
and ...oh never mind