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Kulluminatii
10-21-2010, 12:16 AM
Full article at http://www.myfoxhouston.com/dpp/sports/nfl/101020-jamarcus-russell-works-in-houston-for-2nd-chance-in-nfl
HOUSTON - Former Oakland Raiders quarterback JaMarcus Russell remains confident in his ability, convinced he will get a second chance in the NFL and remains committed to turning his football career around when he spoke with FOX 26 Sports Wednesday in Houston.

Russell has been working for the past two and a half months with former NBA head coach John Lucas in Houston.

As a player in the NBA Lucas had his own share of issues and has developed a tremendous track record for helping troubled athletes get back on track.

"He said he saw the devil and been back," Russell said. "Anybody that can get themselves out of that situation I think can go and tell me about it and warn me from the things he did done wrong and make sure I don't make those same mistakes.

"He came to Mobile, Alabama, take time out of his schedule just to come get little old me. I kind of say he's like my angel. God brought him to me."

The Raiders released Russell in May after three unsuccessful seasons in which he compiled a 7-18 record as a starting quarteback.

"I went and got him," Lucas said in an interview with FOX 26 Sports. "What I saw in him was me 33 years ago when I was out (playing in the NBA) in Golden State. "His troubles started there and so did mine after I left the Houston Rockets.

"I saw a lot of common denominators. We were both number one (overall draft) picks, but JaMarcus is working hard and doing really good."

One blip on Russell's radar concerns his arrest in Alabama in July for possession of codeine, a controlled substance.

However during a hearing in August a friend of Russell's took responsibility for mixing a drink with codeine that was found in Russell's home.

To date no one connected to the case has been indicted.

"That's something that's long gone," Russell said. "Guys in the NFL that came back had some things more serious than that. I think that's a minor setback."


All I can really say is I wish he had this type of dedication going into the NFL. He would have never been in this position had he been dedicated to playing professional football and improving himself as a quarterback. I think the guy should give the UFL a shot to show that he is dedicated to football, not money, and that he still has potential. It seems like he is hellbent on playing in the NFL, and only in the NFL...and I can't really bring myself to wish him well, but I do hope he at least gets a shot.

He does look considerably slimmer in this video (http://sports.sho.com/browse/video-portal-infl.html?id=643135749001).

Rey
10-21-2010, 12:23 AM
I forgot he even existed.

Kulluminatii
10-21-2010, 12:32 AM
I forgot he even existed.

Well he does, and he is in Houston...and your guys' backup QBs suck...and if Matt Schaub ever goes down....




...you guys see where I'm going with this right? :shades:

Rey
10-21-2010, 12:33 AM
Well he does, and he is in Houston...and your guys' backup QBs suck...and if Matt Schaub ever goes down Kubiak will re-activate himself before he puts Russell on the field..

Finished it for ya'...:rake:

DexmanC
10-21-2010, 12:38 AM
Interview Lady: "There are 32 teams in the NFL..."

Jamarcus: "31."

Kulluminatii
10-21-2010, 12:39 AM
Finished it for ya'...:rake:

But...but...Kubes can't throw a ball 70 yards on his knees!!! :fingergun:

The dude has a chip on his shoulder, thats for sure. When asked by the reporter what he would say to the 32 teams out there about how he's changed, he "corrected" her and said 31 :D.

Goatcheese
10-21-2010, 01:10 AM
I get the impression he's not a Raiders fan. :thinking:

Kulluminatii
10-21-2010, 01:16 AM
I get the impression he's not a Raiders fan. :thinking:

Hell, he should be our #1 fan after all that cash we gave him for doing practically nothing :mad:.

phantom17
10-21-2010, 03:37 AM
Hell, he should be our #1 fan after all that cash we gave him for doing practically nothing :mad:.

I feel your pain!

powerfuldragon
10-21-2010, 04:23 AM
john lucas is one of hte nicest guys you'll ever meet. good luck to JaMarcus Russell.

Señor Stan
10-21-2010, 07:09 AM
Well the Texans did work out Defensive Tackles yesterday....maybe he's on to something...

Thorn
10-21-2010, 07:37 AM
If Russell gets his head togeather, and thats a very big IF, he could be a player. There have been stranger things happen in the NFL than Russell making a come back. Just stack this one on the "I'll believe it when I see it" file.

thunderkyss
10-21-2010, 08:34 AM
People are different.

Some people play football their whole lives, because they're good at it. They are treated special if they are really good, from a very early age. Can you imagine the life of the starting QB at the leading party school in the USA?

So imagine being treated uber "special" & then getting millions upon millions to be treated uber "special" on a whole other level.

Around the high school age.. definitely during the college years, football becomes a means to support a certain lifestyle. I don't fault guys who enter the NFL for the money. Not even a guy like Jamarcus. I don't respect them or anything, but you definitely won't hear one condescending remark from me.

But he was able to continue that "party" life after college because of the money he was given, & just like in college, he really didn't have to do much to get it. I don't think he was a guy who played the game, because he wanted to prove anything, to be known as one of the best, to win a championship, to lead a team...

If he's got something to prove & wants back in, I'll watch & cheer him on. But if wants to come back because his nest egg is drying up... I won't have to watch long.

BigBull17
10-21-2010, 08:42 AM
But...but...Kubes can't throw a ball 70 yards on his knees!!! :fingergun:

The dude has a chip on his shoulder, thats for sure. When asked by the reporter what he would say to the 32 teams out there about how he's changed, he "corrected" her and said 31 :D.

Cause a 70 yard bomb from your knees is a great NFL skill...Al Davis is a nut, BTW.

silvrhand
10-21-2010, 09:29 AM
I saw the interview last night on inside the NFL.

- still won't admit to drug usage
- still doesn't or won't admit what went wrong with his NFL career
- refuses to play in the UFL
- refuses to play anything but QB..

Again the guy is shutting out all avenues of showing that he's committed to doing whatever it takes to play the game he says he wants to play...

BIG TORO
10-21-2010, 09:40 AM
But...but...Kubes can't throw a ball 70 yards on his knees!!! :fingergun:

The dude has a chip on his shoulder, thats for sure. When asked by the reporter what he would say to the 32 teams out there about how he's changed, he "corrected" her and said 31 :D.

That right threse shows me he had'nt changed much! If he had changed he would have recognized that the Raiders wanted and picked him number one over all, Invested alot of time and money on him and he threw it all away. If he had changed he would recognize he screwed up not the raiders and maybe he would show some respect for a team who once believed in him.

HOU-TEX
10-21-2010, 10:03 AM
The dude makes Vince Young look like a Rhodes Scholar by how dumb he is. IMO, an NFL QB must have the brains to be successful. Russell is a moron with a few talents that will end up wasted due to not taking advantage of yet another free ride for an athlete through College.

*Disclaimer: Dunno if I made sense or not, don't care. Got too much on my mind right now

Kulluminatii
10-21-2010, 11:18 AM
Cause a 70 yard bomb from your knees is a great NFL skill...Al Davis is a nut, BTW.

Can't say I disagree with you. I wasn't into CFB back in '07 when Russell was drafted, so I'm not sure if people expected Russell to be a #1 pick or if it was just Davis being Davis and reaching for a project player. What I do know is the Raiders skipped on players like Calvin Johnson, Adrian Peterson & Patrick Willis. :brickwall:

That right threse shows me he had'nt changed much! If he had changed he would have recognized that the Raiders wanted and picked him number one over all, Invested alot of time and money on him and he threw it all away. If he had changed he would recognize he screwed up not the raiders and maybe he would show some respect for a team who once believed in him.

I partly blame the Raiders for what happened with Russell. Like thunderkyss said, Russell has been treated differently throughout his entire life...and that didn't change when he was in Oakland. The guy was given an extremely long leash and he had a different set of rules set aside for him than the rest of the team. I'm pretty sure the Raiders knew about his codeine addiction, but they kept it a secret. When JaMarcus would show up late for practice, the Raiders would make an excuse. The guy was heavily spoiled in a dysfunctional organization that was desperate to find their next franchise QB.

The dude makes Vince Young look like a Rhodes Scholar by how dumb he is. IMO, an NFL QB must have the brains to be successful. Russell is a moron with a few talents that will end up wasted due to not taking advantage of yet another free ride for an athlete through College.


Well, judging by the guys' wonderlic scores, he's "smarter" than quite a few NFL QBs.


40 - Alex Smith
39 - Aaron Rogers
39 - Eli Manning
38 - Charlie Frye
37 - Tony Romo
36 - Drew Bledsoe
35 - Matt Leinart
35 - Kellen Clemens
33 - Tom Brady
33 - Steve Young
32 - Joey Harrington
32 - Patrick Ramsey
32 - Sage Rosenfels
31 - J.P. Losman
31 - Matt Schaub
30 - Phillip Rivers
29 - Brady Quinn
29 - Rex Grossman
29 - Marc Bulger
29 - Matt Hasselbeck
29 - Troy Aikman
29 - John Elway
28 - Drew Brees
28 - Peyton Manning
27 - Kyle Boller
27 - Ryan Leaf
26 - Jay Cutler
26 - Kyle Orton
26 - Carson Palmer
26 - Akili Smith
25 - Ben Roethlisberger
25 - Byron Leftwich
25 - Chad Pennington
24 - JaMarcus Russell
24 - David Carr
23 - Jason Campbell
22 - Tim Couch
22 - Trent Dilfer
22 - Brett Favre
20 - Michael Vick
19 - Tarvaris Jackson
19 - Bruce Gradkowski
19 - Derek Anderson
19 - A.J. Feeley
18 - Daunte Culpepper
17 - Aaron Brooks
17 - Vinny Testeverde
16 - Vince Young (6 on first try)
15 - Steve McNair
15 - Randall Cunningham
15 - Dan Marino
15 - Terry Bradshaw
14 - David Garrard
14 - Donovan McNabb
11 - Marcus Vick
10 - Jeff George
8 - Chris Leak

I'm guessing its his southern drawl that makes him sound dumber than he actually is. Then again, these scores don't mean much at all when it comes to playing QB in the NFL, as you can see by some of the great QBs who scored lower than Russell.

BigBull17
10-21-2010, 11:23 AM
Can't say I disagree with you. I wasn't into CFB back in '07 when Russell was drafted, so I'm not sure if people expected Russell to be a #1 pick or if it was just Davis being Davis and reaching for a project player. What I do know is the Raiders skipped on players like Calvin Johnson, Adrian Peterson & Patrick Willis. :brickwall:



I partly blame the Raiders for what happened with Russell. Like thunderkyss said, Russell has been treated differently throughout his entire life...and that didn't change when he was in Oakland. The guy was given an extremely long leash and he had a different set of rules set aside for him than the rest of the team. I'm pretty sure the Raiders knew about his codeine addiction, but they kept it a secret. When JaMarcus would show up late for practice, the Raiders would make an excuse. The guy was heavily spoiled in a dysfunctional organization that was desperate to find their next franchise QB.


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Yeah, there was very good talent in the top of that draft, sadly we passed some ourselves for the 14 year old "phoneme" Amobi Zerokoye. They never had a good coaching network, never held him accountable for anything, and he wasn't #1 overall pick material.

Goatcheese
10-22-2010, 10:14 AM
Well the Texans did work out Defensive Tackles yesterday....maybe he's on to something...

He's too slow and lacks the upfield quickness to play in our scheme. :kitten:

gtexan02
10-22-2010, 10:15 AM
Broke already? Dayum J Russel

Koolaid Time
10-22-2010, 12:47 PM
Wasn't "Purple Drank" 'invented' in Houston?

All the Houston rappers sing about it. Something like Houston is the "City of Syrup"?

drewmar74
10-23-2010, 11:29 PM
Something like Houston is the "City of Syrup"?

Syrup? Or Sizzzurp?

CloakNNNdagger
10-29-2010, 09:55 PM
JaMarcus Russell will not be indicted (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/10/29/jamarcus-russell-will-not-be-indicted/)

Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on October 29, 2010 3:09 PM ET
Well, JaMarcus Russell finally got some good news.

A Mobile, Alabama Grand Jury decided there was not enough evidence to indict the former No. 1 overall pick following his arrest in July 5th for possession of codeine syrup without a valid prescription, according to WKRG in Mobile.

It's hard to imagine this will speed up his return to the NFL, but we wouldn't count anything out. If Adam "Pacman" Jones can get three chances in the NFL (and make good on his third), then Russell is bound to wind up in some team's training camp in the next few years.

HOU-TEX
04-14-2011, 03:09 PM
Wow! Can you say, IT'S OVAH!!!

What a moron

The latest embarrassment for the former No. 1 overall pick: Russell’s “Life coach” John Lucas told Russell he would no longer work with him and asked Russell to leave Houston, according to Jason Cole of Yahoo! Sports.

Just think about that for a second. A man who is getting paid to help Russell, who makes a career out of rehabilitating athletes, gave up on the kid.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/04/14/life-coach-fires-jamarcus-russell/

Mr teX
04-14-2011, 03:19 PM
Wow! Can you say, IT'S OVAH!!!

What a moron



http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/04/14/life-coach-fires-jamarcus-russell/

Lol, "life" coach..that term/job cracks me up every time i hear it. I mean really, how does 1 become a life coach? How do you go about looking for & hiring a life coach? It is quite possibly one of the most ridiculous things i've ever heard of...........right up there with "open" marriage & unemployment "benefits"..

GlassHalfFull
04-14-2011, 03:23 PM
He was working out and running on the track at the school I work for. Which really surprised me, but makes sense not that I see he was working with Lucas. Lucas's sons went here.

gtexan02
04-14-2011, 03:56 PM
Wow, who is this guy that he can tell someone "you need to leave Houston"

Señor Stan
04-14-2011, 04:01 PM
Wow, who is this guy that he can tell someone "you need to leave Houston"

Was he sporting pink soap?

Texan4Ever
04-14-2011, 04:19 PM
Can JaMarcus Russel play OLB in our 3-4 scheme or will he be converted to TE? :ahhaha:

Texecutioner
04-14-2011, 04:49 PM
Lol, "life" coach..that term/job cracks me up every time i hear it. I mean really, how does 1 become a life coach? How do you go about looking for & hiring a life coach? It is quite possibly one of the most ridiculous things i've ever heard of...........right up there with "open" marriage & unemployment "benefits"..

Why? Some people need that the extra motivation and someone to micro manage them in order for them to have success in the areas that are important to them. Everyone is not that well organized and self motivated the way they need to be and I actually commend people that are willing to let go of their own personal ego and realize that they need some coaching or some sort of motivational direction to stay on the grind. It's just like with any job. Some people need to be micro managed for great production while some people work perfectly well without it.

As far as Jamarcus Russell goes, he's just been a lazy ass since he got out of college and this is no surprise.

gtexan02
04-14-2011, 04:51 PM
Was he sporting pink soap?

Its just a funny conversation to envision.

"Im firing you as my client. I don't want to work for you anymore. And I don't even want you in this city anymore either. You should just leave altogether."

Double Barrel
04-14-2011, 04:53 PM
Jamarcus Russell is the primary example of why the NFL needs a rookie cap and a no holdout policy.

CloakNNNdagger
04-14-2011, 04:55 PM
Can JaMarcus Russel play OLB in our 3-4 scheme or will he be converted to TE? :ahhaha:

Keep in mind, his playing weight was 260.

Russell, who lost his starting job in Oakland prior to his release and was arrested in July for possession of a controlled substance, cemented his reputation for poor work habits with two unimpressive showings at workouts with the Washington Redskins and Miami Dolphins in November. Russell showed up for the Redskins workout on Nov. 2 weighing 288 pounds. Two weeks later, Russell showed up for the workout with the Dolphins weighing 292 pounds.

Lucas became increasingly frustrated with Russell starting in December, when Russell’s work habits continued to deteriorate.

Mr teX
04-14-2011, 05:39 PM
Why? Some people need that the extra motivation and someone to micro manage them in order for them to have success in the areas that are important to them. Everyone is not that well organized and self motivated the way they need to be and I actually commend people that are willing to let go of their own personal ego and realize that they need some coaching or some sort of motivational direction to stay on the grind. It's just like with any job. Some people need to be micro managed for great production while some people work perfectly well without it.

As far as Jamarcus Russell goes, he's just been a lazy ass since he got out of college and this is no surprise.

I don't know maybe it is just the term itself. When i hear it i think of a little kid sitting with an adult asking "where do baby's come from?" or some other kid type question....then that visual immediately goes to an adult asking the same kind of question to another adult & i immediately wanna laugh at that whole scenario. I mean after all most well adjusted people's "life coaches" are their parents or some other adult figure that raised them right?

It just seems they could've thought of a better name for that kind of help other than life "coach".

Texecutioner
04-14-2011, 05:48 PM
I don't know maybe it is just the term itself. When i hear it i think of a little kid sitting with an adult asking "where do baby's come from?" or some other kid type question....then that visual immediately goes to an adult asking the same kind of question to another adult & i immediately wanna laugh at that whole scenario. I mean after all most well adjusted people's "life coaches" are their parents or some other adult figure that raised them right?

It just seems they could've thought of a better name for that kind of help other than life "coach".

Personally I think everyone of us could probably benefit from having a "life coach" just to keep us all well grounded and more on track with where we want to go in life. If we all had one we respected, most of us would probably be further on in life and better off. We all just have such strong egos and think that we don't need one and that we can handle ourselves better than what someone else can offer as sound advice and inspiration. I also don't think a parent or family member is the best choice for people in most cases. I think an outsider without any biases in your favor are probably much better. Just my thoughts on the idea of a life coach. :)

CloakNNNdagger
04-14-2011, 05:49 PM
I gave up on this worthless piece of humanity when last year I found out that
he tested positive for codeine right after being drafted by the Raiders.

Double Barrel
04-14-2011, 06:08 PM
I don't know maybe it is just the term itself. When i hear it i think of a little kid sitting with an adult asking "where do baby's come from?" or some other kid type question....then that visual immediately goes to an adult asking the same kind of question to another adult & i immediately wanna laugh at that whole scenario. I mean after all most well adjusted people's "life coaches" are their parents or some other adult figure that raised them right?

It just seems they could've thought of a better name for that kind of help other than life "coach".

I tend to agree with you. Maybe I'm misunderstanding the concept. Is it like a mentor type of thing?

My good friend & drummer of 20 years, Jungle Bob, is a life philosophy kinda' guy and brutally honest about things. He'll tell me that I'm being a dumbass when I need to hear it (and visa versa), and this is about as close as I'll ever get to a so-called "life coach". To each his own, though. :fingergun:

CloakNNNdagger
04-14-2011, 07:49 PM
I tend to agree with you. Maybe I'm misunderstanding the concept. Is it like a mentor type of thing?

My good friend & drummer of 20 years, Jungle Bob, is a life philosophy kinda' guy and brutally honest about things. He'll tell me that I'm being a dumbass when I need to hear it (and visa versa), and this is about as close as I'll ever get to a so-called "life coach". To each his own, though. :fingergun:

By some of the comments throughout this MB, I'd say we have quite a few "life coaches" to choose from right here.:spin:

steelbtexan
04-14-2011, 10:12 PM
Lol, "life" coach..that term/job cracks me up every time i hear it. I mean really, how does 1 become a life coach? How do you go about looking for & hiring a life coach? It is quite possibly one of the most ridiculous things i've ever heard of...........right up there with "open" marriage & unemployment "benefits"..

Cant rep you

Do you think Lucas would be my life coach?

LOL

steelbtexan
04-14-2011, 10:16 PM
I gave up on this worthless piece of humanity when last year I found out that
he tested positive for codeine right after being drafted by the Raiders.

Yeah, Russell being in the purple drank capital of the country. This is going to end well.

CloakNNNdagger
04-15-2011, 08:33 AM
Yeah, Russell being in the purple drank capital of the country. This is going to end well.

Lucas would find it hard to give up on a serial killer with a gun aimed at him. What makes you think that Russell hasn't revisited that party..........the final blow coming when Lucas got whiff of this?

Malloy
04-16-2011, 04:04 AM
Yeah, Russell being in the purple drank capital of the country. This is going to end well.

That was my first thought reading that he was i Houston... Right, that's gonna go down well :)