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TimeKiller
10-14-2010, 04:54 PM
On D:
I think they have to take advantage of another average QB. They started to let Gradkowski get some momentum but Bernard Pollard played fireman all by his onesy. This isn't either Manning or FRIGGIN Promo, this is a backup playing above his head. I think they'll really press for sacks, pressure and QB rattle-lizing. They have GOT to come out and produce on D, it is the 6th game already and they have yet to have a signature stand, play, game, ANYTHING. Send the house at this fool. Go evil maniac on the blitz button. Maybe he'll just start flinging out ducks so lame even the WORST PASSING DEFENSE IN THE LEAGUE gets a few picks. And speaking of that, can we NOT see a million 3 step passes against the D again? Can we stop playing like we're so afraid somebody might run past a defender (because THEY DO ANYWAY) that we can't play up or aggressively or with some just plain ol' F U? How 'bout some pride?!? Let's see it. At the very least, can we at least prove that the same game plan that's been used 6 weeks in a row has finally been figured out and we're forcing opposing OC's to think now?

On O:
CAN WE BE THE TEAM THAT THROWS A MILLION 3 STEP DROPS AND SCREENS AND DELAY HANDOFFS AND AGGRAVATE THE HELL OUTTA TEAMS' D?!?! Jeeeeeeeeez it works so well I got an idea, let's try this same shit that's getting Matt Schaub lit up, AJ shutdown and making the OL look like they eat too much friggin mayonaise! The Colts game has passed my friends and the Raiders will soon be distant too, it's time for the OL to have a game where they look like they care about their profession again. Bust some heads for Arian, keep Matt up and get his 2009 rythym going with a bunch of easy passes.

Special Teams:
Fire Steve Slaton. Hire me. I'll do it for $10,000 per return, additionally, if I don't make it to the 20 (don't worry, I'll make it) then I'll give back $1,000 per yard away. So if I hypothetical trip and fall at the 13, I have to give back 7 G's. But if I make it past the 50 I get $50,000 and if I get a TD I want season tickets for life.

kiwitexansfan
10-14-2010, 05:45 PM
Sorry to say it but if we hit the big blitz button our worst in history pass defense will make that record untouchable.

Our pass rushers are BAD, if we send more BAD pass rushers the QB will punish us, even Cassell. Big Blitzes = Big Plays and we already give up more than our fair share of those.

TimeKiller
10-14-2010, 05:52 PM
Yeah well how about we try the same thing every week? Sweet. Let's go lose us some dignity and a football game!

Texanmike02
10-14-2010, 05:53 PM
On D:
I think they have to take advantage of another average QB. They started to let Gradkowski get some momentum but Bernard Pollard played fireman all by his onesy. This isn't either Manning or FRIGGIN Promo, this is a backup playing above his head. I think they'll really press for sacks, pressure and QB rattle-lizing. They have GOT to come out and produce on D, it is the 6th game already and they have yet to have a signature stand, play, game, ANYTHING. Send the house at this fool. Go evil maniac on the blitz button. Maybe he'll just start flinging out ducks so lame even the WORST PASSING DEFENSE IN THE LEAGUE gets a few picks. And speaking of that, can we NOT see a million 3 step passes against the D again? Can we stop playing like we're so afraid somebody might run past a defender (because THEY DO ANYWAY) that we can't play up or aggressively or with some just plain ol' F U? How 'bout some pride?!? Let's see it. At the very least, can we at least prove that the same game plan that's been used 6 weeks in a row has finally been figured out and we're forcing opposing OC's to think now?

On O:
CAN WE BE THE TEAM THAT THROWS A MILLION 3 STEP DROPS AND SCREENS AND DELAY HANDOFFS AND AGGRAVATE THE HELL OUTTA TEAMS' D?!?! Jeeeeeeeeez it works so well I got an idea, let's try this same shit that's getting Matt Schaub lit up, AJ shutdown and making the OL look like they eat too much friggin mayonaise! The Colts game has passed my friends and the Raiders will soon be distant too, it's time for the OL to have a game where they look like they care about their profession again. Bust some heads for Arian, keep Matt up and get his 2009 rythym going with a bunch of easy passes.

Special Teams:
Fire Steve Slaton. Hire me. I'll do it for $10,000 per return, additionally, if I don't make it to the 20 (don't worry, I'll make it) then I'll give back $1,000 per yard away. So if I hypothetical trip and fall at the 13, I have to give back 7 G's. But if I make it past the 50 I get $50,000 and if I get a TD I want season tickets for life.

Dude. Wtf. I should neg rep you for that post. Didn't you watch the Giants game? We don't game plan anymore...

Mike

thunderkyss
10-14-2010, 06:02 PM
They have GOT to come out and produce on D, it is the 6th game already and they have yet to have a signature stand, play, game, ANYTHING.

Watch the game again. Or just go through the play-by-play. It is just wrong to say we haven't produced anything on Defense.

First, keep in mind there were only 6 defensive possesions where our offense did not go 3 & out. in those possesions, our defense gave up -3, 12, 6, 5, 12, & 14 yards (granted that last one was because they started taking a knee to end the game) and a field goal.

Also know that while we gave up 259 yards & 24 points in the first half, we only gave up 164 yards & 10 points in the second half (Granted they called off the dogs after the 2 minute warning).

Another nice Houston Texans defensive fact, is after the half, the Texans started on defense. That first defensive possession resulted in a forced punt. And forced INTs on the next two possessions.

With that forced punt (3 & out) our offense did nothing (as a matter of fact, Schaub fumbled the ball on the third snap into the half). With the forced INT, the offense did nothing. With the second forced INT they scored a TD, but it only took 2 plays (the defense put them on the 17 yard line)..... which led to our defense giving up the 45 yards and a field goal.

Our offense was then on the field for less than 2 minutes. Our defense holds on, giving up 12 yards & forces a punt.

Our offense goes 3 & out.... eat up all of 18 seconds...... our defense gives up 70 yards and a touchdown.

I'm not saying our defense is great. But if they had a little help from the offense, this would have been a very, very different game.

thunderkyss
10-14-2010, 06:08 PM
Sorry to say it but if we hit the big blitz button our worst in history pass defense will make that record untouchable.

Our pass rushers are BAD, if we send more BAD pass rushers the QB will punish us, even Cassell. Big Blitzes = Big Plays and we already give up more than our fair share of those.

It's almost as if some people don't watch the whole game. They look at the score, & just make shit up to explain the beating.

Texanmike02
10-14-2010, 06:25 PM
Watch the game again. Or just go through the play-by-play. It is just wrong to say we haven't produced anything on Defense.

First, keep in mind there were only 6 defensive possesions where our offense did not go 3 & out. in those possesions, our defense gave up -3, 12, 6, 5, 12, & 14 yards (granted that last one was because they started taking a knee to end the game) and a field goal.

Also know that while we gave up 259 yards & 24 points in the first half, we only gave up 164 yards & 10 points in the second half (Granted they called off the dogs after the 2 minute warning).

Another nice Houston Texans defensive fact, is after the half, the Texans started on defense. That first defensive possession resulted in a forced punt. And forced INTs on the next two possessions.

With that forced punt (3 & out) our offense did nothing (as a matter of fact, Schaub fumbled the ball on the third snap into the half). With the forced INT, the offense did nothing. With the second forced INT they scored a TD, but it only took 2 plays (the defense put them on the 17 yard line)..... which led to our defense giving up the 70 yards and a field goal.

Our offense was then on the field for less than 2 minutes. Our defense holds on, giving up 12 yards & forces a punt.

Our offense goes 3 & out.... eat up all of 18 seconds...... our defense gives up 70 yards and a touchdown.

I'm not saying our defense is great. But if they had a little help from the offense, this would have been a very, very different game.

Remove Mike from the sig block and put yours in there. Just wanted that sig on your post.

Mike

TimeKiller
10-14-2010, 08:55 PM
Watch the game again. Or just go through the play-by-play. It is just wrong to say we haven't produced anything on Defense.

First, keep in mind there were only 6 defensive possesions where our offense did not go 3 & out. in those possesions, our defense gave up -3, 12, 6, 5, 12, & 14 yards (granted that last one was because they started taking a knee to end the game) and a field goal.

Also know that while we gave up 259 yards & 24 points in the first half, we only gave up 164 yards & 10 points in the second half (Granted they called off the dogs after the 2 minute warning).

Another nice Houston Texans defensive fact, is after the half, the Texans started on defense. That first defensive possession resulted in a forced punt. And forced INTs on the next two possessions.

With that forced punt (3 & out) our offense did nothing (as a matter of fact, Schaub fumbled the ball on the third snap into the half). With the forced INT, the offense did nothing. With the second forced INT they scored a TD, but it only took 2 plays (the defense put them on the 17 yard line)..... which led to our defense giving up the 45 yards and a field goal.

Our offense was then on the field for less than 2 minutes. Our defense holds on, giving up 12 yards & forces a punt.

Our offense goes 3 & out.... eat up all of 18 seconds...... our defense gives up 70 yards and a touchdown.

I'm not saying our defense is great. But if they had a little help from the offense, this would have been a very, very different game.

Sweet, they were good for a half of football that didn't matter. So we'll give em a .5/5. 1/10 for all you mathletes out there. Go Texans.

I'd send at least 7 on every play. Until Cassel curled up like David Carr. At this point I could care less if they gave up 900 yards doing it, I'd just like to see a street fight.

Texan_Bill
10-14-2010, 09:09 PM
Gameplan for Chiefs?

Score early, score often!! And for the love of Pete, **** the "prevent 'D'"!!!

JB
10-14-2010, 09:15 PM
Also know that while we gave up 259 yards & 24 points in the first half, we only gave up 164 yards & 10 points in the second half (Granted they called off the dogs after the 2 minute warning).


So, if we would of played two good halfs (halves?), we would have only given up 328 yds & 20 points? O gee golly wow, we would have only lost by ten!

I don't care what the stats say, look at the scoreboard!

We lost badly at home. Time to move on. I understand that there are some positives with our team, but lets not try to paint a rosy picture here. We are sitting here 1-2 at home. They have to get that turned around, or kiss the season goodbye.

I normally agree with what you say, but I think you are reaching a bit too much. Our defense against the Giants sucked for one half, and was just bad the other.

Our offense against the Giants sucked the entire game.

Our team needs to come out and put on a dominating performance this Sunday and regain their and the fans confidence in this team.

If they don't, this board is going to blow up and flame 9500 computers to ash...

and lots of hopes and dreams with it.

thunderkyss
10-14-2010, 09:20 PM
Sweet, they were good for a half of football that didn't matter. So we'll give em a .5/5. 1/10 for all you mathletes out there. Go Texans.

I'd send at least 7 on every play. Until Cassel curled up like David Carr. At this point I could care less if they gave up 900 yards doing it, I'd just like to see a street fight.

I don't know if you'd know what you were looking at if you saw just that. & the point isn't that they played for a half. They were consistent throughout the game. Give them time..... heck if they would have ran a few more times, just to get time off the clock, letting the defense rest, this would have been a totally different game.

They lost their focus on the second defensive possession, they pressured the heck out of Manning, but he managed to toss the ball up & his TE made an excellent catch for a big play. They shut down the play side of the next run play, but Antonio SMith lost backside contain...

We'd like for that not to happen, but it happens. The offense gets the ball & throws an INT after being on the field for less than a minute.

Read my post again, if the offense didn't go three & out, the NYGiants got nothing.

thunderkyss
10-14-2010, 09:41 PM
So, if we would of played two good halfs (halves?), we would have only given up 328 yds & 20 points? O gee golly wow, we would have only lost by ten!

The point of my post wasn't to paint a rosey picture. My point is that it isn't true to say they've done nothing. TimeKiller said
On D:
They have GOT to come out and produce on D, it is the 6th game already and they have yet to have a signature stand, play, game, ANYTHING.

In the Giants game alone, you have several 3 & outs, a series for a -3 yards, & 2 forced INTs. I know that's not "great" but it should be enough for the offense to "produce" more than 10 points & 195 yards of offense.


I don't care what the stats say, look at the scoreboard!

We lost badly at home. Time to move on. I understand that there are some positives with our team, but lets not try to paint a rosy picture here. We are sitting here 1-2 at home. They have to get that turned around, or kiss the season goodbye.
You're not saying anything new. Nor are you saying anything that has anything to do with my post, as it pertains to this thread. Maybe I should just ***** & moan & post retarded crap you can agree with, regardless how accurate it may not be.

I normally agree with what you say, but I think you are reaching a bit too much. Our defense against the Giants sucked for one half, and was just bad the other.
What did you expect from our defense before the game?

Why?

If you expected much different than what you got, I don't know what to say. Surely you didn't expect us to get extremely better in a week?

I don't think I am the one reaching.

Our offense against the Giants sucked the entire game.
That's really my only point.

Our team needs to come out and put on a dominating performance this Sunday and regain their and the fans confidence in this team.
Why? Do we think a dominating win over the Chiefs really means that much. If we dominate the Chiefs (like we dominated the Bengals last year) all that means is that 6 games isn't enough to tell you anything. The Colts are after the bye, they are a good team. If we lose to them, people are just going to be talking about "the same ole Texans"

What we need to do, is win the game & get out as healthy as we got in. No need to throw up a bunch fo stats for the heck of it. I'm not saying we need to get a lead & go soft. Just saying there is no need for any dominating. We need to go into the bye no worse off than we are today. Go to Indy like that team that whupped their ass Wk 1, and bring that home to put on San Diego.

I'll take a two game win streak, Indy & San Diego, over a dominating win over KC (I still want that win). Two wins in a row against quality is what we need to do.

If they don't, this board is going to blow up and flame 9500 computers to ash...

and lots of hopes and dreams with it.

KC might finish the season 8-8 for all we know.

JB
10-14-2010, 09:46 PM
Sorry TK, I got so caught up in your post I forgot what you were responding to. Yes, our defense did do well in spots, and when they did, the offense responded with crap.

And you are right, as long as they get the win I will be happy.

drs23
10-14-2010, 10:27 PM
So, if we would of played two good halfs (halves?), we would have only given up 328 yds & 20 points? O gee golly wow, we would have only lost by ten!

I don't care what the stats say, look at the scoreboard!

We lost badly at home. Time to move on. I understand that there are some positives with our team, but lets not try to paint a rosy picture here. We are sitting here 1-2 at home. They have to get that turned around, or kiss the season goodbye.

I normally agree with what you say, but I think you are reaching a bit too much. Our defense against the Giants sucked for one half, and was just bad the other.Our offense against the Giants sucked the entire game.

Our team needs to come out and put on a dominating performance this Sunday and regain their and the fans confidence in this team.

If they don't, this board is going to blow up and flame 9500 computers to ash...

and lots of hopes and dreams with it.

1) Agreed. The season is quickly slipping away. Could be gone this weekend, IMO.

2) And that would be about what I watched. The WHOLE GAME.

3) I think this is the most important part. If this team looks (agian) like the one I've been watching, I'm thinking "What's up?" :thinking: Also, I don't recall the palms up "WTF?" looks on the field by the team before.? Too much too young too early? We all see the weaknesses. I'm looking for a confidence builder. I hope we get it Sunday. At Home.

HJam72
10-15-2010, 02:25 AM
Sorry to say it but if we hit the big blitz button our worst in history pass defense will make that record untouchable.

Our pass rushers are BAD, if we send more BAD pass rushers the QB will punish us, even Cassell. Big Blitzes = Big Plays and we already give up more than our fair share of those.

That is not necessarily true. QBs have a lower rating against our D when we blitz. In fact, it hurts their rating more than against most Ds (I mean compared to when we don't blitz). What we need to do is scheme wisely. In the Giants game, Cushing only blitzed twice. The result was two big plays for the D. I believe one was a sack (Cushing) and the other was an Int....caused by QB pressure from Cushing. At least one of those times, Mario dropped back into coverage. That's what our D didn't do enough. Maybe Demeco has lost his ability to get to the QB, IDK; but, Cushing hasn't.

Slot corner blitz makes Payton look stupid quite often, percentage wise.

I'm not saying that's what will specifically work against KC, but there's bound to be a blitz (or stunt) or two that will.

Blitz the Chefs!

HJam72
10-15-2010, 02:32 AM
So, if we would of played two good halfs (halves?), we would have only given up 328 yds & 20 points? O gee golly wow, we would have only lost by ten!

I don't care what the stats say, look at the scoreboard!

We lost badly at home. Time to move on. I understand that there are some positives with our team, but lets not try to paint a rosy picture here. We are sitting here 1-2 at home. They have to get that turned around, or kiss the season goodbye.

I normally agree with what you say, but I think you are reaching a bit too much. Our defense against the Giants sucked for one half, and was just bad the other.

Our offense against the Giants sucked the entire game.

Our team needs to come out and put on a dominating performance this Sunday and regain their and the fans confidence in this team.

If they don't, this board is going to blow up and flame 9500 computers to ash...

and lots of hopes and dreams with it.


What if we continue to win 1 of every 3 games at home and win ALL of our road games?

Then we go to the playoffs, play all our games on the road, win them all, go to the SB, get all "home-team" 'cuz it's a SB in Texas and we're in it....and lose to the Saints....cuz they're the visitors.

Or we could just go there and kick Dallas' @$$. :)

HJam72
10-15-2010, 02:38 AM
You do realize the problem is that Kubiak scripts all the defensive plays for the first 100 plays, don't you? He uses the same ones in every game. :)

I don't think it's gonna work. :cool:

Ryan
10-15-2010, 02:55 AM
Score more points then they do. :texflag:



Sorry i just had to.:kitten:

hradhak
10-15-2010, 06:33 AM
I agree with TK. The focus has largely been on our defense this past week when our offense really sucked the whole game. Our defense had some good drives with 3 and outs, but also got burned on some good plays and some lucky plays.

However, we aren't going to beat any team in the league if our offense only puts up 10 points. And our defense is going to look that much worse if they are on the field for 40 minutes a game. We can have a ball control offense, and I think it may be the best way to keep our defense off the field

TimeKiller
10-15-2010, 07:59 AM
I don't know if you'd know what you were looking at if you saw just that. & the point isn't that they played for a half. They were consistent throughout the game. Give them time..... heck if they would have ran a few more times, just to get time off the clock, letting the defense rest, this would have been a totally different game.

They lost their focus on the second defensive possession, they pressured the heck out of Manning, but he managed to toss the ball up & his TE made an excellent catch for a big play. They shut down the play side of the next run play, but Antonio SMith lost backside contain...

We'd like for that not to happen, but it happens. The offense gets the ball & throws an INT after being on the field for less than a minute.

Read my post again, if the offense didn't go three & out, the NYGiants got nothing.

I'll give you that the offense sucked a mighty one. Given. The OP was not exactly a ringing endorsement for the O but.....

But there is no explanation for the suckitude that occured on defense. Getting a few 3&O's on the way to giving up 27 is not a positive for me.

thunderkyss
10-15-2010, 08:19 AM
But there is no explanation for the suckitude that occured on defense. Getting a few 3&O's on the way to giving up 27 is not a positive for me.

I agree with this. I didn't mean for my post to come across as a ringing endorsement for our defense. I just wanted to point out that they were continually put in bad, bad positions. The positions only veteran dominating defenses would be able to get stops. Short fields, & no rest, & I'm sure they were feeling they weren't getting any help at all from the offense.

I don't think anyone here is so jaded to believe this is a dominating veteran defense. So why judge them as if they were?

Like I said, you can't find a series the offense was on the field for more than 3:50 seconds that our defense gave up anything. yards or points. If we didn't go 3 & out on offense, our defense did their job.

Is 3:50 too much to ask from the #1 running team in the league? I don't think so? Is it too much to ask from a top 10 QB & the best reciever in the league? I don't think so. & in my opinion, OD looked damn good.

The Giants aren't a dominating clicking offense..... I put them in the same league as the Chiefs, the Eagles, the Jags & Tennessee. If our O can give us some time, we should have good defensive performances against those teams.

To me, that means the season isn't lost.

Dallas_Texan
10-15-2010, 08:30 AM
I don't know why everyone thinks their pass defense is so bad that we will throw all over them?? They held Peyton to zero TDs until the end of the 4th last week. ....Just saying.

silvrhand
10-15-2010, 08:35 AM
This is a fired up positive KC team coming in, does the loss last week take some wind out of their sails?

This game makes me nervous, either we win or we get blown out..

Blake
10-15-2010, 08:56 AM
Gameplan for Chiefs?

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4107/5083902804_3cfab1795b.jpg

Well we know Kubiak doesnt change it up game to game.

HOU-TEX
10-15-2010, 09:05 AM
Re: Gameplan for Chiefs?

Win

Texan_Bill
10-15-2010, 09:09 AM
Win

QFT!! :kingkong:

Texas T
10-15-2010, 09:12 AM
Win

Damn beat me to it...

TimeKiller
10-15-2010, 11:42 AM
I agree with this. I didn't mean for my post to come across as a ringing endorsement for our defense. I just wanted to point out that they were continually put in bad, bad positions. The positions only veteran dominating defenses would be able to get stops. Short fields, & no rest, & I'm sure they were feeling they weren't getting any help at all from the offense.

I don't think anyone here is so jaded to believe this is a dominating veteran defense. So why judge them as if they were?

Like I said, you can't find a series the offense was on the field for more than 3:50 seconds that our defense gave up anything. yards or points. If we didn't go 3 & out on offense, our defense did their job.

Is 3:50 too much to ask from the #1 running team in the league? I don't think so? Is it too much to ask from a top 10 QB & the best reciever in the league? I don't think so. & in my opinion, OD looked damn good.

The Giants aren't a dominating clicking offense..... I put them in the same league as the Chiefs, the Eagles, the Jags & Tennessee. If our O can give us some time, we should have good defensive performances against those teams.

To me, that means the season isn't lost.

I guess that's what I need to see, some domination. Even or hell, ESPECIALLY if they're put in terrible situations. Put a label on this D of hard to beat instead of easy to throw on.

thunderkyss
10-15-2010, 12:55 PM
I guess that's what I need to see, some domination. Even or hell, ESPECIALLY if they're put in terrible situations. Put a label on this D of hard to beat instead of easy to throw on.

Again, not disagreeing.

After the Schaub fumble, they forced an INT. Our offense came onto the field, used less than 2 minutes and only moved 10 yards. Punt.

Defense answered the call again, got another INT, put the offense on the 17 yard line which led to our only TD.

We then allowed them to pick up 70 yards, but they tightened up & only allowed a field goal.

We've got Kansas City next, the bye, then the Colts. I'm hoping by the time we get to SanDiego at Reliant, our defense will be more consistent & we'll be able to go toe to toe with them, Baltimore, & the Jets.

To expect them to be there now is a little unfair, with the Cushing suspension, Wilson Injury (I really think he's been playing hurt), Barwin injury, & rookie CB.

.

hradhak
10-16-2010, 08:49 AM
Again, not disagreeing.

After the Schaub fumble, they forced an INT. Our offense came onto the field, used less than 2 minutes and only moved 10 yards. Punt.

Defense answered the call again, got another INT, put the offense on the 17 yard line which led to our only TD.

We then allowed them to pick up 70 yards, but they tightened up & only allowed a field goal.

We've got Kansas City next, the bye, then the Colts. I'm hoping by the time we get to SanDiego at Reliant, our defense will be more consistent & we'll be able to go toe to toe with them, Baltimore, & the Jets.

To expect them to be there now is a little unfair, with the Cushing suspension, Wilson Injury (I really think he's been playing hurt), Barwin injury, & rookie CB.

.

Not to mention Mario didn't look as good last week with the groin and shoulder stuff. Cushing missed some practice time this week as well. I'm hoping that AJ will be better after the bye as well. We're really going to need him then.

Speedy
10-16-2010, 10:44 AM
First of all, the 2 picks are making the 2nd half D look much better. As it should. Turnovers are part of what it's about. Getting off the field. The 6, -4(int), -5(int), 12 and 11 all look really nice, but a) the Giants already had a huge lead in the 2nd half, that was never in any danger of being threatened, and b) the 10 points they did score were on drives that started well into their own territory (29 -FG, 27 -TD).

Yes, of course the offense can put the D in bad situations, but that isn't anywhere near the reason the D is struggling. They don't put pressure on a QB and I don't care who you are, if you are playing QB in the NFL you're good enough to hit open receivers if you've got time to throw.

Yeah, you can talk about the 31 seconds the Texans had the ball with 10 minutes to go, but the D was only on the field for 5 plays before that. And you can't hold the 32 second TD drive against them.

The D is not good no matter how you break it down. This was just a game where the offense reached down to their sucktitude, and that spells blowout. Had the offense been clicking I have no doubt this would have a 41-38 type game.

The only thing good about that game was that it doesn't count in any tiebreakers, provided you even get there with that W-L thing that's pretty important.

I know no one thinks Cassel is all that, and maybe he's not, but if you give him time, Bowe and Chambers WILL be open, along with that TE Moeaki(sp?), and they will move the football.

Truthfully though, I'm more worried about them gashing the Texans with the run. Those run against numbers have steadily been going up. 112 yards a game and a 4.0 average per carry the last 3 games.

Nawzer
10-16-2010, 11:15 AM
As long as we don't give up more than 3000 passing yards in one game we should be fine.

Norg
10-16-2010, 10:52 PM
THe key to this game is simple Pass the ball 2 OD !!!!!! the cheifs will be to busy worring about KW and AJ to care about OD

Rey
10-17-2010, 12:02 AM
To expect them to be there now is a little unfair, with the Cushing suspension, Wilson Injury (I really think he's been playing hurt), Barwin injury, & rookie CB.


Not to mention Mario didn't look as good last week with the groin and shoulder stuff. Cushing missed some practice time this week as well. I'm hoping that AJ will be better after the bye as well. We're really going to need him then.

After reading this I have gotten the stranger urge to spit.



Every team deals with injuries, players missing, players suspended, players on PUP...

This stuff is not exclusive to the Texans.

I will not give them the benefit of using that stuff as a crutch and I doubt many of them would want us to. Look at any successful team and I can almost guarantee you will find that they have had their fair share of personnel problems.

Time to man up and play some damn football.

thunderkyss
10-17-2010, 01:51 AM
After reading this I have gotten the stranger urge to spit.



Every team deals with injuries, players missing, players suspended, players on PUP...

This stuff is not exclusive to the Texans.

I will not give them the benefit of using that stuff as a crutch and I doubt many of them would want us to. Look at any successful team and I can almost guarantee you will find that they have had their fair share of personnel problems.

Time to man up and play some damn football.

My point is they are young & trying to get it done with younger depth players. I'm not saying to use this as a crutch, but it's not like this is a veteran squad who has been playing together for years. More than half of the defense has been a Texan for less than 3 years. & many of them have been in this league for less than 2 years.

I'm not saying to use it as a crutch, just that it's something we should expect from such a young unit.

To expect these guys to be the Ravens, Vikings, Bears, Jets or even the NYGiants isn't fair this early in the season.

SAMURAITEXAN
10-17-2010, 02:04 AM
THe key to this game is simple Pass the ball 2 OD !!!!!! the cheifs will be to busy worring about KW and AJ to care about OD

Yeah, I would like to see an overdose of OD today until they stop us.

Go Texans!!!

Corrosion
10-17-2010, 03:56 AM
Im sorry I read this thread.

Malloy
10-17-2010, 05:17 AM
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4107/5083902804_3cfab1795b.jpg

Well we know Kubiak doesnt change it up game to game.

Where's the halfback pass?

Lucky
10-17-2010, 08:27 AM
Sorry to say it but if we hit the big blitz button our worst in history pass defense will make that record untouchable.

Our pass rushers are BAD, if we send more BAD pass rushers the QB will punish us, even Cassell. Big Blitzes = Big Plays and we already give up more than our fair share of those.
I couldn't disagree more. The Chiefs don't have an All Pro laden line. Pressure Cassell and force the ball out, by any means necessary. Give the secondary a chance to make a play. By playing vanilla, these guys have been sitting ducks.

Bush needs to cover up the center and TE with a linebacker and allow the DTs to go 1on 1 with the KC guards. The whole point of going with small DTs is to have them shoot the gaps and get up the field, correct? So get them up field, already. Play Pollard in the box and force KC to pass. If they can, well what's new? If they can't, the Texans win in a walk.

Offensively, don't be cute. Run Foster down their throats and then, play action to AJ. Keep it simple. The Texans have more talent than the Chiefs. Don't outsmart yourself, Kubiak.

Watch the game again. Or just go through the play-by-play. It is just wrong to say we haven't produced anything on Defense.
So what if the Texans defense had some good series? Overall, they have sucked. That's undeniable.

Where's the halfback pass?
That's not even funny, man. There hasn't been enough time to heal that open wound.

Alright, I admit I laughed my arse off.

DexmanC
10-17-2010, 10:37 AM
My point is they are young & trying to get it done with younger depth players.

This was a decision that came, ultimately, from Kubiak. Whatever the
result is, Kubiak has already placed his career with the Texans on the RESULT
of his choice to "go young."

No excuses.

Speedy
10-17-2010, 07:25 PM
Truthfully though, I'm more worried about them gashing the Texans with the run. Those run against numbers have steadily been going up. 112 yards a game and a 4.0 average per carry the last 3 games.

And it just got worse.

thunderkyss
10-17-2010, 11:15 PM
This was a decision that came, ultimately, from Kubiak. Whatever the
result is, Kubiak has already placed his career with the Texans on the RESULT
of his choice to "go young."

No excuses.

Again, it's no excuse. We're young, we know that. I believe they're also talented. I believe Kubiak also believes they are talented. It stands to reason we will get better as the year progresses.

They look bad in our first 6 games. & we're 4-2.

They should get better, we expect them to get better.

No excuses. I'm not looking for one. Kubiak isn't looking for one.