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bullseye
10-13-2010, 11:29 AM
Still not sure how I feel about the new tailgate policies. I see positives and negatives to both. However, one thing did change on Sunday that is definitely not positive. At 4'oclock our group began packing up. While we were packing, a cop on a golf cart came by and told us to turn down our music, pack up, and get out. So, we turned down the music and continued to pack up. Five minutes later another cop on a golf cart came by and told us we had 10 minutes to pack up and leave and to turn OFF our music while we did it. Within a few minutes after that, while we were collapsing our canopy, yet another cop on a golf cart came by and told us we needed to leave now.

This is easily the rudest we've ever been treated in 6 years of tailgating in the Platinum Lot. Not only was it obvious we were packing up and leaving (about 30 minutes earlier than normal), but it was the first time we've EVER been harassed about it. I understand the feeling on the part of the Texans to tighten the rules a bit, but this is ridiculous. We paid a tremendous amount of money, paid extra for the tailgating passes, followed all the rules, and were packing up an hour after the game like we were supposed to and were still harassed.

I must say, if this is a glimpse into the future, we will have to think long and hard about sinking so much time, energy and money into this organization. Apart from the product on the field, this is the first time I've had a bad taste in my mouth about a game day experience.


~LoneSpot

cuppacoffee
10-13-2010, 11:51 AM
I can understand your frustrations.

Texan fans expend lots of time and expense to add to their game day experience. Lately Texan fans efforts have not been rewarded by our teams (home games) on the field performance.

To go through all this only to be rewarded by pathetic play and now the apparent thankless treatment by the organization can't help but have a detrimental effect on their loyal fans.

Your treatment might be attributed to minimal employees on an ego trip. If that is the case a letter to management might help.

I am not that great a fan, but I have witnessed how great some of the Texans fans are. The loyalty they have given to this team deserves better treatment than what you have described.

:coffee:

gtexan02
10-13-2010, 11:55 AM
There is nothing more obnoxious than being told to do something more than once when you are already complying.

(It works in marriage that way as well)

I am convinced that the less power an individual has the right to deploy, the more vehemently he is going to deploy it. A golf cart riding tailgate security officer fits the bill as someone who is going to enjoy his power trip. If I were you, I would write to the Texans and make sure they realize that their employees are treating their customers so rudely.

If you had been doing anything wrong, thats one thing. But to be actively cleaning up and following rules only to be yelled at by 3 separate guys who obviously weren't communicating would have made me really upset.

Kudos to you for keeping your cool

HTown2ATX
10-13-2010, 11:58 AM
There is nothing more obnoxious than being told to do something more than once when you are already complying.

(It works in marriage that way as well)

LMAO..I remember those days..

Yankee_In_TX
10-13-2010, 01:51 PM
Bullseye - I wonder if someone (wrongfully or rightfully) complained about you? Because it sounds like it wasn't a coincidence.

ubecool454
10-13-2010, 08:45 PM
Still not sure how I feel about the new tailgate policies. I see positives and negatives to both. However, one thing did change on Sunday that is definitely not positive. At 4'oclock our group began packing up. While we were packing, a cop on a golf cart came by and told us to turn down our music, pack up, and get out. So, we turned down the music and continued to pack up. Five minutes later another cop on a golf cart came by and told us we had 10 minutes to pack up and leave and to turn OFF our music while we did it. Within a few minutes after that, while we were collapsing our canopy, yet another cop on a golf cart came by and told us we needed to leave now.

This is easily the rudest we've ever been treated in 6 years of tailgating in the Platinum Lot. Not only was it obvious we were packing up and leaving (about 30 minutes earlier than normal), but it was the first time we've EVER been harassed about it. I understand the feeling on the part of the Texans to tighten the rules a bit, but this is ridiculous. We paid a tremendous amount of money, paid extra for the tailgating passes, followed all the rules, and were packing up an hour after the game like we were supposed to and were still harassed.

I must say, if this is a glimpse into the future, we will have to think long and hard about sinking so much time, energy and money into this organization. Apart from the product on the field, this is the first time I've had a bad taste in my mouth about a game day experience.


~LoneSpot

Just pull out your camera and film the ***** next time. For some reason the real or rental cops hate to be filmed. I don't want to bash the cops but you guys were having to much fun and they had to work. You guys were showing off eating good food, having your drinky drinks and they have to work. I think they already ruined the tailgating but it will probably be worse. Where were these cops at when the guy got knocked out? Not there..thats trouble...it's easier to harrass you guys who are having just to much fun...come on and admit it...you saw the cops coming and starting have more fun just to rub it in..lol. I couldn't wait for the season to start but after two home games I feel like oh hum.

Yankee_In_TX
10-13-2010, 08:48 PM
I think they already ruined the tailgating but it will probably be worse.

I have yet to have anyone explain to me how the new policy has 'ruined tailgating.'

I've only been given concrete examples of inconveniences....?

For example, some of my folks were inconvenienced because they had to wait for 30 minutes at the gate (they park at the Crown Plaza).

I'm waiting for someone to say "The new policy actually destroyed my tailgate because ________."

ubecool454
10-13-2010, 08:55 PM
Bullseye - I wonder if someone (wrongfully or rightfully) complained about you? Because it sounds like it wasn't a coincidence.

Yankee I think you got it right. Some people hate to see others have fun. The people that probably complained on them are the same people who come to a football game and complain when others stand up or make noise. Those cops at the crosswalks can get pretty funky too.....it's not my fault they took that job and have to work.

ubecool454
10-13-2010, 09:01 PM
I have yet to have anyone explain to me how the new policy has 'ruined tailgating.'

I've only been given concrete examples of inconveniences....?

This is my point of view ......and correct me if I'm wrong....I take it that you are in a crew where most of the people that you tailgate with go in the games together...they ruined it for me because I bring my pit and just can't leave it sitting out there unattended. We had people that would have tickets and a lot of times would give them away just to tailgate. It's ruined for me because most of my crew that pit sitter are just gone to Astroworld to tailgate....so whats good for you may not be good for me. It's ok though...I was already spending to much time and money with this team...it feels ok to get home for the second half of the other NFL games.

Texan_Bill
10-13-2010, 09:03 PM
I have yet to have anyone explain to me how the new policy has 'ruined tailgating.'

I've only been given concrete examples of inconveniences....?

For example, some of my folks were inconvenienced because they had to wait for 30 minutes at the gate (they park at the Crown Plaza).

I'm waiting for someone to say "The new policy actually destroyed my tailgate because ________."

:foottap: How about me having to walk all the way down to West Gate, just to walk back to our spot? That sucked!!!

But thanks for working on another alternative with the Texans for that.

ubecool454
10-13-2010, 09:08 PM
:foottap: How about me having to walk all the way down to West Gate, just to walk back to our spot? That sucked!!!

But thanks for working on another alternative with the Texans for that.

Texan Bill ..Walking is good exercise and you can suck up all that good vitamin D from the Sun...just sayin

steelbtexan
10-13-2010, 09:14 PM
I have yet to have anyone explain to me how the new policy has 'ruined tailgating.'

I've only been given concrete examples of inconveniences....?

A welfare recipient/parking lot attendant (Harold Jerols) was very rude to my wife as well. And had to face her wrath. LOL

They are supposed to be there to help alliviate traffic problems and help solve problems. Not be power hungry a**es.

ubecool454
10-13-2010, 09:24 PM
A welfare recipient/parking lot attendant (Harold Jerols) was very rude to my wife as well. And had to face her wrath. LOL

They are supposed to be there to help alliviate traffic problems and help solve problems. Not be power hungry a**es.

If you were working for minimum wage and had to suffer by watching people have fun , eat and drink...you would have a attitude too.:worldpeace:

Texan_Bill
10-13-2010, 09:28 PM
Texan Bill ..Walking is good exercise and you can suck up all that good vitamin D from the Sun...just sayin

I suffer from high blood pressure, ulcerative colitis and I'm a 43 year old guy in the body of a 67 year old. **** that!! As far as vitamin D, I get plenty - from the sun and one or two of the 27 pills a day that I take. :choke:

JB
10-13-2010, 09:37 PM
I suffer from high blood pressure, ulcerative colitis and I'm a 43 year old guy in the body of a 67 year old. **** that!! As far as vitamin D, I get plenty - from the sun and one or two of the 27 pills a day that I take. :choke:


You do know that 22 of those are placebo's do you not?



:hides:

Yankee_In_TX
10-13-2010, 09:49 PM
This is my point of view ......and correct me if I'm wrong....I take it that you are in a crew where most of the people that you tailgate with go in the games together...they ruined it for me because I bring my pit and just can't leave it sitting out there unattended. We had people that would have tickets and a lot of times would give them away just to tailgate. It's ruined for me because most of my crew that pit sitter are just gone to Astroworld to tailgate....so whats good for you may not be good for me. It's ok though...I was already spending to much time and money with this team...it feels ok to get home for the second half of the other NFL games.

So your friends, who have game tickets but give them away because they would rather tailgate than go into the game, bailed on you to pay $20 to park at Atsroworld rather than pay $10 each for a tailgate ticket? Or am I misunderstanding?

Why not sell their tickets for $10 each to cover the $10 tailgating ticket cost?

JB
10-13-2010, 09:53 PM
This is my point of view ......and correct me if I'm wrong....I take it that you are in a crew where most of the people that you tailgate with go in the games together...they ruined it for me because I bring my pit and just can't leave it sitting out there unattended. We had people that would have tickets and a lot of times would give them away just to tailgate. It's ruined for me because most of my crew that pit sitter are just gone to Astroworld to tailgate....so whats good for you may not be good for me. It's ok though...I was already spending to much time and money with this team...it feels ok to get home for the second half of the other NFL games.

So your friends, who have game tickets but give them away because they would rather tailgate than go into the game, bailed on you to pay $20 to park at Atsroworld rather than pay $10 each for a tailgate ticket? Or am I misunderstanding?

Why not sell their tickets for $10 each to cover the $10 tailgating ticket cost?

:confused:

ubecool454
10-13-2010, 10:04 PM
So your friends, who have game tickets but give them away because they would rather tailgate than go into the game, bailed on you to pay $20 to park at Atsroworld rather than pay $10 each for a tailgate ticket? Or am I misunderstanding?

Why not sell their tickets for $10 each to cover the $10 tailgating ticket cost?

No they go in the games now but the main pit sitters didn't have tickets...but its ok. As long as Pappadeaux is right around the corner when I get out of the game I'm fine. Getting up at the crack of dawn to get ready to head to the stadium gets old...especially when we have back to back games. I actually had some energy left when I got home after the Giants game. I'm not going to whine about something I have no control over .....I would rather just say screw it than try to make "tailgating" work. They didn't bail on me..they had not other choice ...I'll probably do the monday night game at astroworld and walk over. I'll save my BBquing for cookoffs

MannyFresh
10-13-2010, 10:44 PM
A welfare recipient/parking lot attendant (Harold Jerols) was very rude to my wife as well. And had to face her wrath. LOL

They are supposed to be there to help alliviate traffic problems and help solve problems. Not be power hungry a**es.


Woah, easy there...last I heard, welfare recipients DIDN'T work much or at all. I'm sure those attendants are under the gun too with these new rules and have to be firm so the REAL 'free loaders'/thugs don't ruin everyone's fun including you and your wife. If you can't go that way, or park there, there's a reason why I'm sure. Having game day or season tickets doesn't give you the right at all to be judging folks or going off on the attendants who are WORKING and doing a thankless job so that your high and mighty self can park in the lot and enjoy your bbq/beer. Some people I swear.

Dread-Head
10-14-2010, 02:44 AM
I suffer from high blood pressure, ulcerative colitis and I'm a 43 year old guy in the body of a 67 year old. **** that!! As far as vitamin D, I get plenty - from the sun and one or two of the 27 pills a day that I take. :choke:

Each time I've met up with the blue crew I've walked from the train to their corner of the platinum lot. I guess were I to meet up with them for a subsequent game the walk wouldn't phase me.

Texan_Bill
10-14-2010, 09:25 AM
Each time I've met up with the blue crew I've walked from the train to their corner of the platinum lot. I guess were I to meet up with them for a subsequent game the walk wouldn't phase me.

Yeah, but you're a svelte young gentleman, not an old crusty curmudgeon like me. Hell, I'm sore half the week from just the walk to the stadium (from Blue Crew), up the ramps and then back to Blue Crew after standing in the Bull Pen for 3 hours.
:choke:

Pollardized
10-14-2010, 09:38 AM
I suffer from high blood pressure, ulcerative colitis and I'm a 43 year old guy in the body of a 67 year old. **** that!! As far as vitamin D, I get plenty - from the sun and one or two of the 27 pills a day that I take. :choke:

Is this one of the 27?

http://www.freakingnews.com/pictures/15000/Cialis--15183.jpg

Texan_Bill
10-14-2010, 09:47 AM
Is this one of the 27?

http://www.freakingnews.com/pictures/15000/Cialis--15183.jpg

Ummmm, no!! The junk works just fine! :texanbill: In fact, a little too well! :ant:

ubecool454
10-14-2010, 09:53 AM
Yeah, but you're a svelte young gentleman, not an old crusty curmudgeon like me. Hell, I'm sore half the week from just the walk to the stadium (from Blue Crew), up the ramps and then back to Blue Crew after standing in the Bull Pen for 3 hours.
:choke:

Texan bill you are not a old gentleman but if you are going thru all this pain I would suggest that you stay at home and watch the games before you really hurt yourself. No game and tailgating is worth that. You may need to take the time and get a good nutrionist to help you with your blood pressure because believe me...I know at the tailgate there is no healthy eating and a lot of drinking which is not something that is in your best interest right now. If you were my friend and tailgating with me I would have had to tell you some truth by now.....I'm sorry if this sounds mean but.... By the way...you can get that blood pressure down if you really want to. I just looked back and see that you are not but 43 years old....still a young man.

eriadoc
10-14-2010, 10:03 AM
Still not sure how I feel about the new tailgate policies. I see positives and negatives to both. However, one thing did change on Sunday that is definitely not positive. At 4'oclock our group began packing up. While we were packing, a cop on a golf cart came by and told us to turn down our music, pack up, and get out. So, we turned down the music and continued to pack up. Five minutes later another cop on a golf cart came by and told us we had 10 minutes to pack up and leave and to turn OFF our music while we did it. Within a few minutes after that, while we were collapsing our canopy, yet another cop on a golf cart came by and told us we needed to leave now.

This is easily the rudest we've ever been treated in 6 years of tailgating in the Platinum Lot. Not only was it obvious we were packing up and leaving (about 30 minutes earlier than normal), but it was the first time we've EVER been harassed about it. I understand the feeling on the part of the Texans to tighten the rules a bit, but this is ridiculous. We paid a tremendous amount of money, paid extra for the tailgating passes, followed all the rules, and were packing up an hour after the game like we were supposed to and were still harassed.

I must say, if this is a glimpse into the future, we will have to think long and hard about sinking so much time, energy and money into this organization. Apart from the product on the field, this is the first time I've had a bad taste in my mouth about a game day experience.


~LoneSpot

So tell us, how did it feel to pay for that treatment? :stirpot:

ubecool454
10-14-2010, 10:12 AM
So tell us, how did it feel to pay for that treatment? :stirpot:

LOL thats a good question...the tailgaters that didn't have tickets that got the boot wasn't paying for being bullied by the longarm of the law. I never had any problem with the law down there. If the law is messing with you, maybe you look like criminals.

Dread-Head
10-14-2010, 10:53 AM
Yeah, but you're a svelte young gentleman, not an old crusty curmudgeon like me. Hell, I'm sore half the week from just the walk to the stadium (from Blue Crew), up the ramps and then back to Blue Crew after standing in the Bull Pen for 3 hours.
:choke:

Aren't you three years OLDER than me? :thinking:

Ckw
10-14-2010, 04:49 PM
Woah, easy there...last I heard, welfare recipients DIDN'T work much or at all. I'm sure those attendants are under the gun too with these new rules and have to be firm so the REAL 'free loaders'/thugs don't ruin everyone's fun including you and your wife. If you can't go that way, or park there, there's a reason why I'm sure. Having game day or season tickets doesn't give you the right at all to be judging folks or going off on the attendants who are WORKING and doing a thankless job so that your high and mighty self can park in the lot and enjoy your bbq/beer. Some people I swear.

It's their JOB. They get PAID to be there. If they don't like it, look for another JOB.

That would be like me saying I had the right to be angry and rude to people when I worked at Best Buy and they were coming in to purchase a brand new, bad ass tv that I couldn't afford, and I got to watch the excitement in their face as I swiped their credit card and they were taking that beautiful piece of electronic equipment home to watch football.

Some people I swear.

MannyFresh
10-14-2010, 08:19 PM
It's their JOB. They get PAID to be there. If they don't like it, look for another JOB.

That would be like me saying I had the right to be angry and rude to people when I worked at Best Buy and they were coming in to purchase a brand new, bad ass tv that I couldn't afford, and I got to watch the excitement in their face as I swiped their credit card and they were taking that beautiful piece of electronic equipment home to watch football.

Some people I swear.

That made no sense whatsoever. I guess having tickets now gives us a license to bellittle anyone, workers out there included if we don't get our way or are so thinned skinned to take direction.

Ckw
10-14-2010, 09:07 PM
That made no sense whatsoever. I guess having tickets now gives us a license to bellittle anyone, workers out there included if we don't get our way or are so thinned skinned to take direction.

You obviously didn't put much effort in trying to comprehend my post.

You made the argument that tailgaters had no right to judge the parking attendants when they are doing "a thankless job" and have to sit and watch us have fun. I gave an example, and there are other suitable ones, of a job that is also pretty thankless yet it doesn't give the worker the right to be an asshole or to try and make all the paying ticket holders and tailgaters day suck just as much as their shitty job.

The examples given in this thread, such as the poster whose wife was treated so rudely or the other poster who was told 3 different times to leave even though he was clearly in the process of packing up to leave, are perfect reasons why these jerks in yellow jackets on a power trip need to be put in their place. It is not the ticket holders and tailgaters trying to belittle them. They try to belittle us and get on a power trip thinking because they work security at Reliant they have made it big time and can boss other people around.

Once again, do you happen to be one of these parking attendants?

Texan_Bill
10-14-2010, 09:09 PM
Texan bill you are not a old gentleman but if you are going thru all this pain I would suggest that you stay at home and watch the games before you really hurt yourself. No game and tailgating is worth that. You may need to take the time and get a good nutrionist to help you with your blood pressure because believe me...I know at the tailgate there is no healthy eating and a lot of drinking which is not something that is in your best interest right now. If you were my friend and tailgating with me I would have had to tell you some truth by now.....I'm sorry if this sounds mean but.... By the way...you can get that blood pressure down if you really want to. I just looked back and see that you are not but 43 years old....still a young man.

Nutrition isn't a problem. I've even lost 48 pounds in the last year and a half. My body is just tore up from years of abusing it. As far as the BP, I'm on medication that generally keeps it under control. In fact, most of the time, it's well below 120/80. It just tends to spike every once in awhile and my pulse rate gets outta whack. I will spike up to 139 over like 89 and have resting pulse rate over 100.

I used to subscribe to the theory: "live fast, die young, and leave a good looking corpse!"

Boy, was I a dumbass!!!

Aren't you three years OLDER than me? :thinking:

In actual years, yes. Physically, I'm 27 years, your elder. :gun:

ubecool454
10-15-2010, 03:12 AM
Hang in there Texan Bill you will be ok.

Joe Texan
10-15-2010, 11:51 AM
Each time I've met up with the blue crew I've walked from the train to their corner of the platinum lot. I guess were I to meet up with them for a subsequent game the walk wouldn't phase me.

Yea but Dread you would do very well in the IRON MAN while BiLL should only enter some liquid variety of the contest

Mean Machine
10-15-2010, 02:31 PM
We have been told MANY times to pack up and get out by numrous off-duty HPD/Harris County Sheriff/Constables..we do begin to pack up and then at precisely 2 hours after the game has ended, they head out on their golf carts, not to be seen.
Now this year, I msut admit we haven't stayed super late due to the heat and then the 2 crappy home losses.

unabated
10-17-2010, 09:48 AM
Woah, easy there...last I heard, welfare recipients DIDN'T work much or at all. I'm sure those attendants are under the gun too with these new rules and have to be firm so the REAL 'free loaders'/thugs don't ruin everyone's fun including you and your wife. If you can't go that way, or park there, there's a reason why I'm sure. Having game day or season tickets doesn't give you the right at all to be judging folks or going off on the attendants who are WORKING and doing a thankless job so that your high and mighty self can park in the lot and enjoy your bbq/beer. Some people I swear.

I don't guess you did any tailgating and/or going into the standium last week. The new policies and staff put in place out there were only there to cause grief for the fans of the Texans. I'm sure some efficiency "expert" came up with all these changes... this is a reaction to the over 20,000 extra fans during the Cowboys game and the subsequent fight in the parking lot later. What most were aggravated about before and after the game was the fact that there were parking lot attendants and security around the stadium who were there to cause problems for the fans and not assist the fans. It was as if the fans were an inconvenience for the staff. Poor customer service.

steelbtexan
10-17-2010, 10:06 AM
I don't guess you did any tailgating and/or going into the standium last week. The new policies and staff put in place out there were only there to cause grief for the fans of the Texans. I'm sure some efficiency "expert" came up with all these changes... this is a reaction to the over 20,000 extra fans during the Cowboys game and the subsequent fight in the parking lot later. What most were aggravated about before and after the game was the fact that there were parking lot attendants and security around the stadium who were there to cause problems for the fans and not assist the fans. It was as if the fans were an inconvenience for the staff. Poor customer service.

Poor customer service, to put it mildy, guess your employees can treat people any way they want when they work for a monoply.

Repped

awtysst
10-17-2010, 05:19 PM
How was it out there today?

Hopefully the TG was ok?

Texan_Bill
10-17-2010, 07:08 PM
I have to admit, the yellow jackets were in a really good mood this morning and they were fired up!!!

Props for a change!!

Kimmy
10-17-2010, 09:41 PM
At TLT (in the yeller lot) we had TWO people stay out, TWO! They said the "Nazi's" came by THREE times to check their tickets. Seriously? For two girls? On the last visit, one of our girls couldn't find her ticket (the other was in the bathroom) and she was told, "This will be the last game. Next time is ZERO TOLERANCE"

I just couldn't believe it. These two girls were harassed the entire game.

BTW - good job TLT on winning Tailgater of the Game ;)

silvrhand
10-18-2010, 09:38 AM
Poor customer service, to put it mildy, guess your employees can treat people any way they want when they work for a monoply.

Repped

Monopoly? I'm sorry the Texans do not have a monopoly.

Texanfan4ever
10-18-2010, 11:47 AM
One would think if they are so strict about their rules they made for the parking lot, they would be just as compliant of the rule they made for the roof!!!!! I think the top temp is 80??????84 at 11:30.......103 sitting in your seat in the sun! We were not happy and had to leave. Just saying! Thanks Bob!!!

Stemp
10-18-2010, 11:58 AM
One would think if they are so strict about their rules they made for the parking lot, they would be just as compliant of the rule they made for the roof!!!!! I think the top temp is 80??????84 at 11:30.......103 sitting in your seat in the sun! We were not happy and had to leave. Just saying! Thanks Bob!!!

They had to open it for the Army Golden Knights who parachuted into the stadium.

Joe Texan
10-18-2010, 12:10 PM
If youcannot man up in a little heat get out of the kitchen, this is a football game not the rodeo. I swear some people think that thier ticket is a ***** lisence and they use it for every word they spew. The tailgating went great with the Blue Crew again thank you Texans for listening to your season ticket holders

JT
10-18-2010, 12:11 PM
Well they should've closed on after they jumped in. Wait, didn't they get wiped out by the aliens on Independence Day? Crap no, it was the Black Knights my bad. LOL kidding

SheTexan
10-18-2010, 02:12 PM
Well they should've closed on after they jumped in. Wait, didn't they get wiped out by the aliens on Independence Day? Crap no, it was the Black Knights my bad. LOL kidding

Unfortunately, the NFL has the last say. I believe a team has up to 90 mins before the game to make a decision to open or close the roof. After the decision is made, they cannot change it unless the refs agree. I think nasty weather would be the only reason. Lightening and that sort of thing.

Texanfan4ever
10-18-2010, 02:18 PM
Unfortunately, the NFL has the last say. I believe a team has up to 90 mins before the game to make a decision to open or close the roof. After the decision is made, they cannot change it unless the refs agree. I think nasty weather would be the only reason. Lightening and that sort of thing.

I have heard the same thing. It is unreversible after they make it.Don't get me wrong, I loved the salute to the military. I just wish they could have come to an agreement with the NFL to close it after the salute.

Texanfan4ever
10-18-2010, 02:27 PM
If youcannot man up in a little heat get out of the kitchen, this is a football game not the rodeo. I swear some people think that thier ticket is a ***** lisence and they use it for every word they spew. The tailgating went great with the Blue Crew again thank you Texans for listening to your season ticket holders

Hey Joe,

I 'man up' every Sunday for this team, and my ticket is not a ***** license. My mom and I go to every game and it is hard for me in the sun, but my mother is a healthy 80, but she cannot sit there in that heat. So we left. She knows football better then most men and watches every play. There is no word spewing from me. Don't judge my situation if you are not aware of it.

Anyone who sits in the half of the stadium that is in the sun, knows what I am saying. Not everyone can handle that kind of heat.

Point is, there was no warning, and they didn't follow their own rule, so we were not prepared! It's as simple as that.

Joe Texan
10-18-2010, 02:45 PM
Hey Joe,

I 'man up' every Sunday for this team, and my ticket is not a ***** license. My mom and I go to every game and it is hard for me in the sun, but my mother is a healthy 80, but she cannot sit there in that heat. So we left. She knows football better then most men and watches every play. There is no word spewing from me. Don't judge my situation if you are not aware of it.

Anyone who sits in the half of the stadium that is in the sun, knows what I am saying. Not everyone can handle that kind of heat.

Point is, there was no warning, and they didn't follow their own rule, so we were not prepared! It's as simple as that.

Not directed at you alone I just hate hearing how ""it was hot" at a football game, if it were not for the rodeo we would not have a roof. And if you get hot there are multiple places in the stadium, ie the Bull Pen Bar that have TVs and all in airconditioned viewing pleasure. I sat up there with Irene, a young lady that said it was a little too warm for her, from 3 minutes to half time to the third quarter and we had a blast. I am amazed at all the people who complain, the Texans act on thier complaints and the same people complain that they answered thier complaint with action.

NitroGSXR
10-18-2010, 02:56 PM
Not directed at you alone I just hate hearing how ""it was hot" at a football game, if it were not for the rodeo we would not have a roof. And if you get hot there are multiple places in the stadium, ie the Bull Pen Bar that have TVs and all in airconditioned viewing pleasure. I sat up there with Irene, a young lady that said it was a little too warm for her, from 3 minutes to half time to the third quarter and we had a blast. I am amazed at all the people who complain, the Texans act on thier complaints and the same people complain that they answered thier complaint with action.

I sit facing the bullpen. The 100s, 200s, 300s, 400s, and 500s were...

...totally empty. All those empty seats after halftime stunned me. Our diehards were driven from their seats in hordes by the blinding sun yet I gotta review my mancard? Joe, it was hot.

Whatever, man. Whatever.

Kaiser Toro
10-18-2010, 03:00 PM
It was hot as Hades, the wife could not stand it. We left after the third quarter.

bignasty
10-18-2010, 03:05 PM
I can handle the heat, but what dum ass decided hey we going to leave the roof open and it is 84 outside the stadium at game time and still decide to wear our Dark uniforms. Shouldn't the HOME team switch to the white to help with that home field advantage...:thinking:

Ckw
10-18-2010, 03:08 PM
My wife and I were in the sun sweating our asses off. We stayed the whole game though. Regardless, it was a stupid decision. And Joe, you are wrong. I'd love to see some proof that we wouldn't even have a roof if it weren't for the Rodeo. I call BS on that one.

BIG TORO
10-18-2010, 03:22 PM
Well I was in the Bull Pen and it was hot, but I took my jersey off wearing my wife beater, turned my hat facing forward, pulled my pollarized shades out of my pocket, drank plenty of beer to stay hydrated, and I was A-OK! Honestly I didnt even break a sweat.:kingkong:

steelbtexan
10-19-2010, 04:17 PM
Monopoly? I'm sorry the Texans do not have a monopoly.

If you want to watch NFL football in Houston they do.

There was a whole different attitude in the yellow lot. We ran across Mr. Jerolds and he was very nice this week. The attendants didn't appear to take as much pleasure in doing their jobs and they moved the stupid cones so that finding a parking spot wasn't such an ordeal.

The tailgaiting was great as usual.

I would like to say thanks to Uncle BoB and the rest of the Texans org for listening to their fan base and making the needed corrections.

Mean Machine
10-20-2010, 10:28 AM
Well, the roof policy needs to be adhered to. Period. The stadium was built with a major flaw. There is NO circulation of air when the roof is open(generally) and the sun is bearing down on the fans creates a stagnant air atmosphere, basically like being in a terrarium.

I do like the brightness of when the roof is open, but I was shocked it was open vs kc. Hopefully and it will happen, even with global warming(!) as the season progresses it will cool off.
Go Texans!

Yankee_In_TX
10-20-2010, 10:44 AM
There is NO circulation of air when the roof is open(generally) and the sun is bearing down on the fans creates a stagnant air atmosphere, basically like being in a terrarium.


That's my opinion as well.

Texan_Bill
10-20-2010, 10:51 AM
One would think if they are so strict about their rules they made for the parking lot, they would be just as compliant of the rule they made for the roof!!!!! I think the top temp is 80??????84 at 11:30.......103 sitting in your seat in the sun! We were not happy and had to leave. Just saying! Thanks Bob!!!

Indeed, thank Bob!! If not for him, you wouldn't have been to game to ***** about in the first place. Perspective!

Thanks Bob, for honoring our military!!! Thanks Golden Knights, your display of professionalism was magnificent!!!

Vinnie
10-20-2010, 10:54 AM
My wife and I were in the sun sweating our asses off. We stayed the whole game though. Regardless, it was a stupid decision. And Joe, you are wrong. I'd love to see some proof that we wouldn't even have a roof if it weren't for the Rodeo. I call BS on that one.

No, he's right. They had a say in it when they originally planned the stadium. The Rodeo is big business and they always get their way. Remember how the roof magically got fixed right before Rodeo season after Ike?

Texan_Bill
10-20-2010, 11:25 AM
My wife and I were in the sun sweating our asses off. We stayed the whole game though. Regardless, it was a stupid decision. And Joe, you are wrong. I'd love to see some proof that we wouldn't even have a roof if it weren't for the Rodeo. I call BS on that one.

You're wrong for calling BS, because Joe is right. It was because of Rodeo's performances and the need to hang speakers and video boards that the roof was necessary. Proof is in the history.

But here it is in black and white if you need it:

Retractable Roof

One of most notable aspects of the design is the operable fabric roof. While the NFL prefers to play in open-air stadiums, the Houston Livestock Show and Rodeo has strict requirements to hold its events indoors under more controlled environments, and the Rodeo hangs massive speakers and video screens from the roof to enhance its rodeo and concert events. As a result of these opposing ideals, the need for a retractable roof was apparent from the start. The NFL could also take advantage of the roof during the hot pre-season and early season home games by offering a fully air-conditioned stadium for the spectators.


After studying multiple roof schemes, a uniquely simple solution was pursued for cost and maintenance reasons. The operable roof consists of two large panels that bi-part at the 50-yard line. Each panel slides on a track and rests over each end on two massive supertrusses that span the length of the field. It takes approximately 10 minutes to open or close the roof.



Linkage: HLS&R (http://www.hlsr.com/about/reliant-park.aspx)

Texan_Bill
10-20-2010, 11:26 AM
No, he's right. They had a say in it when they originally planned the stadium. The Rodeo is big business and they always get their way. Remember how the roof magically got fixed right before Rodeo season after Ike?

Absolutely. Actually Rodeo draws a helluva lot more people than the Texans do over 10 dates.

NitroGSXR
10-20-2010, 11:40 AM
Absolutely. Actually Rodeo draws a helluva lot more people than the Texans do over 10 dates.

Interesting. Then how come they don't have their own stadium? Probably because the rodeo isn't a big TV draw.

Texan_Bill
10-20-2010, 11:45 AM
Interesting. Then how come they don't have their own stadium? Probably because the rodeo isn't a big TV draw.

Because that would make absolutely no sense, nor would it be fiscally viable. That and you bring up a really good point about TV dollars.

To recap:
Rodeo - 21 dates + a couple of matinee shows
Texans - 10 dates.

Yankee_In_TX
10-20-2010, 11:53 AM
Interesting. Then how come they don't have their own stadium? Probably because the rodeo isn't a big TV draw.

Put them in the Dome and lets rebuild Reliant!!!! :kitten: Probably too late for that idea, huh....

Texan_Bill
10-20-2010, 11:53 AM
I just looked up HLS&R's attendance figures from earlier this year. They drew more than 2,000,000 people. The Texans with 10 dates x ~72,000 = ~ 720,000.

Texan_Bill
10-20-2010, 11:54 AM
Put them in the Dome and lets rebuild Reliant!!!! :kitten: Probably too late for that idea, huh....

:foottap:

Yankee_In_TX
10-20-2010, 11:55 AM
You're wrong for calling BS, because Joe is right. It was because of Rodeo's performances and the need to hang speakers and video boards that the roof was necessary. Proof is in the history.

But here it is in black and white if you need it:



Linkage: HLS&R (http://www.hlsr.com/about/reliant-park.aspx)

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y153/Meiintas/Pwned.jpg

:texflag:

disaacks3
10-20-2010, 12:02 PM
It was hot as Hades, the wife could not stand it. We left after the third quarter. The wife ditched the jersey by the end of the first quarter and rarely stood during the game. To her credit, she hung in there till it was over. I lost 3.5 pounds of water weight.

Well, the roof policy needs to be adhered to. Period. The stadium was built with a major flaw. There is NO circulation of air when the roof is open(generally) and the sun is bearing down on the fans creates a stagnant air atmosphere, basically like being in a terrarium.

I do like the brightness of when the roof is open, but I was shocked it was open vs kc. Hopefully and it will happen, even with global warming(!) as the season progresses it will cool off.
Go Texans! Yeah, it's the dead air that makes it worse. True open-air stadiums have far better circulation.

Texan_Bill
10-20-2010, 12:03 PM
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y153/Meiintas/Pwned.jpg

:texflag:

I wasn't trying to pwn anyone, I just spent 24+ months on that project (from initial design through punch lists)... Sat in on meetings with Steve Patterson (then, Senior Vice President Texans) and Peter Justl (Hermes Reed Architects)... I know a little bit of the history! :gun:

Yankee_In_TX
10-20-2010, 12:10 PM
I wasn't trying to pwn anyone, I just spent 24+ months on that project (from initial design through punch lists)... Sat in on meetings with Steve Patterson (then, Senior Vice President Texans) and Peter Justl (Hermes Reed Architects)... I know a little bit of the history! :gun:

But how often do I have a chance to post a picture like that?

Texan_Bill
10-20-2010, 12:12 PM
But how often do I have a chance to post a picture like that?

Right. I see you working.

Texan_Bill
10-20-2010, 12:22 PM
Reason for the roof?

http://www.ldsystems.com/rodeosfestivals/09events/hlsr/wide2.jpg

http://www.ldsystems.com/rodeosfestivals/09events/hlsr/concert2.jpg


Said video board!

http://www.ldsystems.com/rodeosfestivals/09events/hlsr/conceptual3.jpg

http://www.ldsystems.com/rodeosfestivals/09events/hlsr/EV-Xline.jpg

Said speakers!

Ckw
10-20-2010, 01:00 PM
No, he's right. They had a say in it when they originally planned the stadium. The Rodeo is big business and they always get their way. Remember how the roof magically got fixed right before Rodeo season after Ike?

You're wrong for calling BS, because Joe is right. It was because of Rodeo's performances and the need to hang speakers and video boards that the roof was necessary. Proof is in the history.

But here it is in black and white if you need it:



Linkage: HLS&R (http://www.hlsr.com/about/reliant-park.aspx)

Rep to both of you if possible. I just figured we would have a roof on the stadium anyway due to the weather in Houston. Thanks for the clarification.

Texan_Bill
10-20-2010, 01:23 PM
Rep to both of you if possible. I just figured we would have a roof on the stadium anyway due to the weather in Houston. Thanks for the clarification.

Just remember bro, before the Dome, the Oilers played outdoors at both Rice Stadium and Robertson (then Jeppesen) Stadium and the Colt .45's played outdoors at Colt Stadium.

Interesting bit of history regarding Colt Stadium. It was completely dismantled, shipped and re-constructed in Mexico. :D

eriadoc
10-20-2010, 01:26 PM
I'm beginning to think that the asshole :: golf cart ratio is higher than asshole :: normal person ratio.

JT
10-20-2010, 01:30 PM
Indeed, thank Bob!! If not for him, you wouldn't have been to game to ***** about in the first place. Perspective!

Thanks Bob, for honoring our military!!! Thanks Golden Knights, your display of professionalism was magnificent!!!


Or just make Military Day on a cooler day if wanna have em parachute in...better yet, just have em zip line in, or run across the field say "hut, hut, hut, hut, hut, hut, hut, hut....ala The Blue Brothers.

Kaiser Toro
10-20-2010, 01:58 PM
Or just make Military Day on a cooler day if wanna have em parachute in...better yet, just have em zip line in, or run across the field say "hut, hut, hut, hut, hut, hut, hut, hut....ala The Blue Brothers.

I love Military Day, look forward to it every year as it is the best added-value "on field" they do IMO. But if it entails opening of the roof, I like your idea. It just makes too much sense.

SheTexan
10-20-2010, 05:11 PM
I lasted until the half then watched the rest of the game in the Bullpen Pub! Would have been happier in my seats, but, I will not complain about last Sunday. Military Day is my fav, and watching those paratroopers reminds me so much of my brother who belonged to the 101st. It's emotional and very heart warming to watch them do their thang. Hopefully, they will make in later in the year next year, if we have a NEXT year, and everyone will be happy.

People comment all the time about the 50-80 rule. At one of the games last year it was 76 outside, open roof, and the temp in the Bullpen was 110+. The sun reflects off the removable seats, and the color is dark blue. Plus, as has been mentioned a hundred times, there is NO air flow in the lower section. I don't complain anymore, got tired of being ragged on so much by members of this board. If I can't take the heat, I'll move to a cooler area. Sorry that my section, which is suppose to be the FAN ZONE for the Texans, will be 80% empty. Reliant is NOT AN OPEN AIR STADIUM!!! It's simply a domed stadium with a hole in the roof.

MannyFresh
10-20-2010, 05:22 PM
Do the stadiums like LucasOil, U of Phnx, and others with that big ole window open or is that for show? Not sure if those types of designs should've been used instead of the kind we got or if even could support something like the rodeo. Nevertheless, we got what we got and the roof is open when its hot, hey, just retrofit some mists sprays and blow the AC colder.

NitroGSXR
10-20-2010, 05:44 PM
FOR GWALLAIA:

Any suggestions on how the Texans could fix Reliant Stadium? Massive oscilliating fans? Misting options without getting certain fans too soaked... unless we put them over the seats that are owned by brokers? I KNOW something CAN be done. That is the wonder of the human brain so architecturize that brain of yours, man!!!

Speedy
10-20-2010, 06:49 PM
Unfortunately, the NFL has the last say. I believe a team has up to 90 mins before the game to make a decision to open or close the roof. After the decision is made, they cannot change it unless the refs agree. I think nasty weather would be the only reason. Lightening and that sort of thing.

Or unless a balloon wipes out a transformer.

Sway
10-20-2010, 07:07 PM
this week we were in the yellow lot, and arrived about 8:15-8:30. At the gate they asked to see our tix (didn't do that for the Giants) and then I swear, every 10 or 15 mins someone in a golf cart drove right by to see what we're all doing. It's just the hubby and I, we didn't even HAVE a radio. Just our gear, and when people really started showing up, we moved the beanbag toss so folks could park. It bugged me being watched so closely. After the game, no one said anything, but again, they kept driving by. I think we finally pulled out at something like 4:45, but I also didn't look at my watch. We went back, pulled the grill back out, played ball, ate, and left. Personally, I wish the lots would open sooner, and stay open later. As much $$ as people spend, we oughta be able to enjoy ourselves. Not like Reliant has something planned for 7:00 after a game!

JGarza #70
10-21-2010, 09:43 AM
this week we were in the yellow lot, and arrived about 8:15-8:30. At the gate they asked to see our tix (didn't do that for the Giants) and then I swear, every 10 or 15 mins someone in a golf cart drove right by to see what we're all doing. It's just the hubby and I, we didn't even HAVE a radio. Just our gear, and when people really started showing up, we moved the beanbag toss so folks could park. It bugged me being watched so closely. After the game, no one said anything, but again, they kept driving by. I think we finally pulled out at something like 4:45, but I also didn't look at my watch. We went back, pulled the grill back out, played ball, ate, and left. Personally, I wish the lots would open sooner, and stay open later. As much $$ as people spend, we oughta be able to enjoy ourselves. Not like Reliant has something planned for 7:00 after a game!

^^^^^^^TOTALLY AGREE^^^^^^^

I personally do the same reheat after the game waiting for traffic to die down.. then pack it up and head out.. but in maroon.. they cops are not that bad.. they come by and let you know to pack it up bout 30 min before they shut down... but it has taken them 3yrs to be cool about the warning..:clown:

Yankee_In_TX
10-21-2010, 11:31 AM
or unless a balloon wipes out a transformer.

lmao!!!!!!!!

hobie
10-21-2010, 11:55 AM
Or unless a balloon wipes out a transformer.

Not sure how that could take down Optimus, but hey, on any given Sunday I guess.....

Texan_Bill
10-21-2010, 12:27 PM
Not sure how that could take down Optimus, but hey, on any given Sunday I guess.....

It happened... Believe it!!


FILO :whistle:

BullPenPhotos
10-21-2010, 12:48 PM
It happened... Believe it!!

Proof...
http://www.texansbullpen.com/04photogallery/Season/2004-09-12-Chargers-Texans/Fans/DSC_0390.JPG

TEXANS84
10-21-2010, 02:18 PM
Not sure how that could take down Optimus, but hey, on any given Sunday I guess.....

Oh yeah, it happened!!!

Somewhere from the Orange lot....FIL...something.

:kubepalm:

Hardcore Texan
10-21-2010, 02:37 PM
It was pretty damn hot but I had a lot of fun. I stayed in my seat in the sun for all but about 10-15 mins standing at the top of the stairs between Sect 115 and 116 in the 3rd quarter, after retreating to the shade during halftime. When the shade hit in the 4th quarter it was like heaven!

My father in law had spent about half the game on the smoker's deck in the shade watching on TV, it was good excuse for him after got real hot.

I love how good that A/C feels after tailgating so I'd prefer to have it closed when its hot but I understand why they made the exception this go around. I am also of the opinion it could be open no matter how cold it gets, football in fall/winter is a blast. I loved it when it was cold and even rained a bit at that Chicago game the season Ike hit.

texanmojo
10-21-2010, 04:20 PM
I am also of the opinion it could be open no matter how cold it gets, football in fall/winter is a blast. I loved it when it was cold and even rained a bit at that Chicago game the season Ike hit.

I did the Green Bay/Texans game a few years back...ZERO at kick off. Loved it.

Bottom line for us is Reliant has a crappy design. Houston always tries to be first in the dome/retractible roof game so we end up with the worst design in the end.

Thankfully I am in the shade...watching all you bull pen members bake.

Kaiser Toro
10-21-2010, 05:43 PM
I did the Green Bay/Texans game a few years back...ZERO at kick off. Loved it.

Bottom line for us is Reliant has a crappy design. Houston always tries to be first in the dome/retractible roof game so we end up with the worst design in the end.

Thankfully I am in the shade...watching all you bull pen members bake.

I was there and was just discussing my experience with a co worker today. Cold weather and football were made for one another.

SheTexan
10-21-2010, 06:03 PM
I was there and was just discussing my experience with a co worker today. Cold weather and football were made for one another.

I didn't go to GB, but, I totally agree cold weather and football go together. I watch all those "cold weather" teams play in the rain and snow and envy their fans. I know, sounds dumb, but, that's the type of game I enjoy. I'll never see either at Reliant! I sat through a friggin monsoon in KC last year and it was a BLAST, and that was in August. LOVE the rain and cold, but, hate the heat!!

Texan_Bill
10-21-2010, 09:22 PM
I was there and was just discussing my experience with a co worker today. Cold weather and football were made for one another.

I tried that cold weather thing once in "the Nati"!! It sucked!! It was brutally cold, and the chunks of ice hitting me in the back of my dome, didn't help!!

Then again, after a while, the chunks of ice warmed me up a little. IN fact, they heated me up a bunch! :bat:

No, seriously that stuff aside, it was brutally cold for me... I am a tropical people!

Joe Texan
10-21-2010, 11:36 PM
Or unless a balloon wipes out a transformer.

I know Nothing

Texan_Bill
10-21-2010, 11:52 PM
I know Nothing

Yeah you do.... FILO launched a UFO that took out a transformer, which shut down part of the video boards, sideline lights and many other electronics that day!! :D

Drew_Smoke
10-22-2010, 02:42 PM
Yeah you do.... FILO launched a UFO that took out a transformer, which shut down part of the video boards, sideline lights and many other electronics that day!! :D

I think we have all heard this story a few dozen times or more.

Dude had a big balloon tied up outside. During the game the wind blew it into a transformer causing a little stress on the system.

Anymore details I should've posted...? Feel free to pile on.

Tedc
10-22-2010, 02:51 PM
I think we have all heard this story a few dozen times or more.

Dude had a big balloon tied up outside. During the game the wind blew it into a transformer causing a little stress on the system.

Anymore details I should've posted...? Feel free to pile on.

Feeling sensitive today?

Midol may help.:kitten:

NitroGSXR
10-22-2010, 02:54 PM
I think we have all heard this story a few dozen times or more.

Dude had a big balloon tied up outside. During the game the wind blew it into a transformer causing a little stress on the system.

Anymore details I should've posted...? Feel free to pile on.
I haven't heard it. Gimme the fun version. I am already laughing.

Yankee_In_TX
10-22-2010, 06:05 PM
I haven't heard it. Gimme the fun version. I am already laughing.

The only thing I would add is there is now a rule (on the website I think?) that specifically prohibits balloons.

Texan_Bill
10-22-2010, 06:39 PM
The only thing I would add is there is now a rule (on the website I think?) that specifically prohibits balloons.

:kubepalm:

NitroGSXR
10-22-2010, 06:41 PM
The only thing I would add is there is now a rule (on the website I think?) that specifically prohibits balloons.
A little ballon like the ones you get from a clown? Or are we talking about giant tailgate ballon that got blown away?

COME ON MAN!

Speedy
10-22-2010, 07:04 PM
Sept. 12, 2004 - San Diego game.

It was a 94 degree day, the roof was closed. IIRC, the lights at Reliant went out sometime in the 2nd half. They rolled the roof back, to give more light, and finished the game outdoors.

Tedc
10-23-2010, 08:38 AM
Sept. 12, 2004 - San Diego game.

It was a 94 degree day, the roof was closed. IIRC, the lights at Reliant went out sometime in the 2nd half. They rolled the roof back, to give more light, and finished the game outdoors.

The ironic part of it was that we were playing the Chargers.:bravo:

How come we don't have a balloon smilie?

Drew_Smoke
10-23-2010, 10:30 AM
I haven't heard it. Gimme the fun version. I am already laughing.

He had a big ass balloon tied up at his tailgate. During the game while he was inside the wind blew it into a transformer or whatever.

He had some esplaining to do afterwards. I am not sure what the $$$ was on damage but I don't think they hit him with it.

So now there is a rule about balloons. Just when you think you thought of everything....