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Texans34Life
10-12-2010, 07:27 PM
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/10/12/texans-kick-tires-on-a-couple-of-quarterbacks/

Though the Houston Texans have three quarterbacks under contract, they spent part of Tuesday eyeballing two more.

Per a league source, Colt Brennan and Jarrett Brown tried out for the team on Tuesday.

The intentions aren't clear, but it could mean that Matt Leinart or Dan Orlovsky are on shaky ground.

The Texans also checked out four receivers: Reggie Brown, Derek Hagan, Dexter Jackson, and Demetrius Williams.

Texanmike02
10-12-2010, 07:34 PM
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/10/12/texans-kick-tires-on-a-couple-of-quarterbacks/

Though the Houston Texans have three quarterbacks under contract, they spent part of Tuesday eyeballing two more.

Per a league source, Colt Brennan and Jarrett Brown tried out for the team on Tuesday.

The intentions aren't clear, but it could mean that Matt Leinart or Dan Orlovsky are on shaky ground.

The Texans also checked out four receivers: Reggie Brown, Derek Hagan, Dexter Jackson, and Demetrius Williams.

Whew... I thought you said CORNERBACK...

Signed,
Everyone numbered 20-39.

CloakNNNdagger
10-12-2010, 07:41 PM
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/10/12/texans-kick-tires-on-a-couple-of-quarterbacks/

Though the Houston Texans have three quarterbacks under contract, they spent part of Tuesday eyeballing two more.

Per a league source, Colt Brennan and Jarrett Brown tried out for the team on Tuesday.

The intentions aren't clear, but it could mean that Matt Leinart or Dan Orlovsky are on shaky ground.
The Texans also checked out four receivers: Reggie Brown, Derek Hagan, Dexter Jackson, and Demetrius Williams.

Or someone feels that if the pass protection continues as last week, Schaub is more likely to watch upcoming games from his hospital bed.

Thorn
10-12-2010, 07:59 PM
Whew... I thought you said CORNERBACK...

Signed,
Everyone numbered 20-39.

:lol:

imatexan
10-12-2010, 08:21 PM
Maybe they are going to try and convert one of these players to a CB?
:lolrskates:

NitroGSXR
10-12-2010, 08:29 PM
I liked Colt Brennan from back in the day. Despite Tommy Chang breaking NCAA records before him, Brennan was a huge step up. He's a system QB with a decent deep ball... like Schaub was.

Texanmike02
10-12-2010, 08:33 PM
I liked Colt Brennan from back in the day. Despite Tommy Chang breaking NCAA records before him, Brennan was a huge step up. He's a system QB with a decent deep ball... like Schaub was.

What he really brings to the table is he would instantly become our best cover corner. :pirate:

Mike

(I wish I was completely kidding)

silvrhand
10-12-2010, 08:51 PM
or we trade a couple qb's for something else..

Nawzer
10-12-2010, 08:53 PM
or we trade a couple qb's for something else..

I was going to suggest the same idea. Maybe we're looking to trade for a corner. Teams like the 49ers could use a qb and maybe they're looking at Leinart and a wide receiver.

dtran04
10-12-2010, 08:55 PM
The Texans work out players every week. I wonder why PFT considers it news worthy to post about it? I assume every team in the league conducts workouts on days off (or at least it would be the smart thing to do).

silvrhand
10-12-2010, 09:05 PM
The Texans work out players every week. I wonder why PFT considers it news worthy to post about it? I assume every team in the league conducts workouts on days off (or at least it would be the smart thing to do).

Cause why would you waste your time working out QB's when we are probably one of the most stacked with talent at that position overall?

Texan_Bill
10-12-2010, 09:07 PM
Re: [PFT] Texans try out QBs and WRs


I'm not sure if that's worth a :facepalm:

or a

:wadepalm:

I think I would be more interested in talking to Lester Hayes and Aaron Glenn to come out of retirement! Hell, I'm ringing Deion Sanders number!!

THE NFL
10-12-2010, 09:11 PM
Cause why would you waste your time working out QB's when we are probably one of the most stacked with talent at that position overall?


HUH? The Texans are NOT stacked at QB.

devo-x
10-12-2010, 09:28 PM
Is Dan O. on his way out?

CretorFrigg
10-12-2010, 09:35 PM
We just signed Matt Leinart. It seems kind of odd that we're trying out QBs. The coaching staff must be concerned with the o-line's inability to protect the QB and also the quality of our back-ups. It seems like they don't have much faith in either Dan O. or Leinart.

As for trying out WRs, that's plausible. We were inundated with injuries to the WR position. I don't think Andre Johnson is back to 100% yet and Jacoby Jones' injury could be worse than we thought.

ArlingtonTexan
10-12-2010, 09:41 PM
Or we did not want to waste the time of the QBs on the current roster throwing to bunches of WRs so we "tried out" a couple of QBs to act as throwing machines.

Revolution
10-12-2010, 09:57 PM
Or we did not want to waste the time of the QBs on the current roster throwing to bunches of WRs so we "tried out" a couple of QBs to act as throwing machines.

Ding, ding, ding....we have a winner. Rep your way...

Joe Texan
10-12-2010, 10:20 PM
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A Quarterback, I got it lets put David Anderson (glue hands) at corner untill we get these Quarterbacks used to playing the position of Corner

drs23
10-12-2010, 10:30 PM
What he really brings to the table is he would instantly become our best cover corner. :pirate:

Mike

(I wish I was completely kidding)

Hell, start him! :texflag:

Big Lou
10-12-2010, 10:32 PM
I'm not sure if that's worth a :facepalm:

or a

:wadepalm:

I think I would be more interested in talking to Lester Hayes and Aaron Glenn to come out of retirement! Hell, I'm ringing Deion Sanders number!!

Oh man I was so thinking we need Aaron Glenn to come out of retirement, then I could where my 31 jersey again. He'd have to talk the Piss Knocker out of it though.

El Tejano
10-12-2010, 11:56 PM
Reggie Brown would be a nice fit and I always liked Colt Brennan.

Malloy
10-13-2010, 01:09 AM
or we trade a couple qb's for something else..

Beat me to it.

BigBull17
10-13-2010, 07:30 AM
We need receiver help if JJ isn't healthy. DA needs to not play significant minutes.

TEXANS84
10-13-2010, 08:50 AM
I smell a trade coming....more than likely involving Jacoby Jones.

drewmar74
10-13-2010, 09:01 AM
I smell a trade coming....more than likely involving Jacoby Jones.

Do you think he really has any value? Inconsistent hands and injured....

awtysst
10-13-2010, 09:08 AM
I smell a trade coming....more than likely involving Jacoby Jones.

What do you expect to fetch for JJ? He is very hot/cold.

TEXANS84
10-13-2010, 09:16 AM
Do you think he really has any value? Inconsistent hands and injured....

Last year of contract....injury should be fine by this weekend.

Jacoby (although at times has pan-hands) always has the ability to make the big play. If you look at last season on his receptions, he only had 27 receptions...turned it into 437 yards and 6 touchdowns. That's 22% of the time he's scoring when his hands touch the ball (if he can hold on to it).
His 16.2 YPC is not too shabby either.

Now I know, Jacoby scares the hell out of me sometimes holding the ball. But I also know that when he gets the ball in open space, he'll make something happen because of that big play ability.

drewmar74
10-13-2010, 09:22 AM
Last year of contract....injury should be fine by this weekend.

Jacoby (although at times has pan-hands) always has the ability to make the big play. If you look at last season on his receptions, he only had 27 receptions...turned it into 437 yards and 6 touchdowns. That's 22% of the time he's scoring when his hands touch the ball (if he can hold on to it).
His 16.2 YPC is not too shabby either.

Now I know, Jacoby scares the hell out of me sometimes holding the ball. But I also know that when he gets the ball in open space, he'll make something happen because of that big play ability.

You make good points. I just can't get past those hands.

I mean, every time he's back to field a kick I'm yelling "don't fumble, don't fumble, don't fumble!" at the TV.

Showtime100
10-13-2010, 09:22 AM
I smell a trade coming....more than likely involving Jacoby Jones.

Sounds good. Jones and Kubiak for who? :thinking:

Dutchrudder
10-13-2010, 09:32 AM
I'll take a stab at it:

Jacoby Jones and Matt Leinart to the Redskins for Albert Haynesworth and Andre Carter.

drewmar74
10-13-2010, 09:33 AM
Sounds good. Jones and Kubiak for who? :thinking:

A six pack of Shiner Black and a bag of pretzels.

BigBull17
10-13-2010, 09:37 AM
Do you think he really has any value? Inconsistent hands and injured....

However, he is a big play waiting to happen, either in the punt return game or as a deep threat. He struggles in the short passing game, but is explosive intermediate to long. He has value to teams, as does Lienart. I could see a Redskins trade, since Kubiak has Shanny's ear and can give him the scoop on Matt's progression. Haynesworth lacks a lot of value a the moment, so I could see the Haynesworth for JJ trade being a possibility.

silvrhand
10-13-2010, 09:57 AM
I'll take a stab at it:

Jacoby Jones and Matt Leinart to the Redskins for Albert Haynesworth and Andre Carter.

Oh man that would be kind of nice, but I doubt we would want to pay Haynesworth what he thinks he's worth, and man do we really need another motivational issue player with a coach that can't seem to motivate?

Dutchrudder
10-13-2010, 10:09 AM
Oh man that would be kind of nice, but I doubt we would want to pay Haynesworth what he thinks he's worth, and man do we really need another motivational issue player with a coach that can't seem to motivate?

AH wants to play DT in a 4-3 defense and he will get two opportunities to get back at the Titans. I think that is enough motivation and he is an instant upgrade over Shaun Cody.

Andre Carter used to be a 4-3 DE who had 11 sacks last year, but has now been converted to a 3-4 OLB and doesn't seem to be doing well with it. I figure he could do just about as well as Aaron Schobel would have done here. We need a DE to replace Connor Barwin and he could be the guy.


I wouldn't be surprised to see Steve Slaton or Derrick Ward thrown in too.

nero THE zero
10-13-2010, 10:12 AM
I smell a trade coming....more than likely involving Jacoby Jones.

That seems pretty implausible to me. Given the fact that Davis is on IR, Dickerson is a rookie, and AJ is hurt, I can't imagine us trading away our only legitimate deep threat who's a prominent player at (now) one of our most shallow positions.

TheCD
10-13-2010, 10:17 AM
AH wants to play DT in a 4-3 defense and he will get two opportunities to get back at the Titans. I think that is enough motivation and he is an instant upgrade over Shaun Cody.

Andre Carter used to be a 4-3 DE who had 11 sacks last year, but has now been converted to a 3-4 OLB and doesn't seem to be doing well with it. I figure he could do just about as well as Aaron Schobel would have done here. We need a DE to replace Connor Barwin and he could be the guy.


I wouldn't be surprised to see Steve Slaton or Derrick Ward thrown in too.

I like the possibility of us actually being aggressive in making this team better, but I think Ward is here for at least this season. While we need the help at DE right now, I personally don't see it happening unless Kubiak is in serious "win or I'm out" mode. Anything at DT would be an upgrade, and as long as Haynesworth produces we will let his antics slide (much like we do with Antonio). My concern is if we go after a DE, he will not only be situational based on passing downs (when Antonio kicks in), but what will be his role next season when we get Connor back? This season is showing that we are really hurting without him, and that he is a big part of what we want to do on defense.


I'm not an expert on this issue, but if I remember correctly Nate Clements has simply been ok for the 49ers, and they still think they have a shot at their division. I could see us sending a WR and RB (a la JJ and SS), and perhaps a draft pick for Clements...but that would mean that we would be conceding defeat on our CBs, which I don't think Kubiak will do.


My biggest hope is that we're trying to make a play for a good FS. People have been down on Pollard because of this coverage skills, but that doesn't bother me. He is a true SS and his strength should be primarily run-stopping with a competence in zone coverage. He fits great what we want to do, but he's trying to do too much...and that's why we need a FS to let him play within his strengths.

silvrhand
10-13-2010, 10:31 AM
I like the possibility of us actually being aggressive in making this team better, but I think Ward is here for at least this season. While we need the help at DE right now, I personally don't see it happening unless Kubiak is in serious "win or I'm out" mode. Anything at DT would be an upgrade, and as long as Haynesworth produces we will let his antics slide (much like we do with Antonio). My concern is if we go after a DE, he will not only be situational based on passing downs (when Antonio kicks in), but what will be his role next season when we get Connor back? This season is showing that we are really hurting without him, and that he is a big part of what we want to do on defense.


I'm not an expert on this issue, but if I remember correctly Nate Clements has simply been ok for the 49ers, and they still think they have a shot at their division. I could see us sending a WR and RB (a la JJ and SS), and perhaps a draft pick for Clements...but that would mean that we would be conceding defeat on our CBs, which I don't think Kubiak will do.


My biggest hope is that we're trying to make a play for a good FS. People have been down on Pollard because of this coverage skills, but that doesn't bother me. He is a true SS and his strength should be primarily run-stopping with a competence in zone coverage. He fits great what we want to do, but he's trying to do too much...and that's why we need a FS to let him play within his strengths.

I'd rather see us get talent at DT/DE, than I would go after CB/FS. No matter what if we don't start getting some type of pass rush it will not matter who you put at corner they are eventually going to get free. Two froathing at the mouth DL that want to rip heads off and crap down peoples back will go a long way to strengthing up our young secondary.

TheCD
10-13-2010, 10:34 AM
I'd rather see us get talent at DT/DE, than I would go after CB/FS. No matter what if we don't start getting some type of pass rush it will not matter who you put at corner they are eventually going to get free. Two froathing at the mouth DL that want to rip heads off and crap down peoples back will go a long way to strengthing up our young secondary.

I'm with you on the DT, we definitely need help there. But as far as DE, I'm just a little concerned that adding another one is going to hurt us in the long run rather than help. Anotonio is our all-purpose, with Connor being our pass-rushing specialist. If we get another it will help this year, but what would we do next?

I will agree that you can't have too much talent, but I don't think our coaching staff is the kind to use creative fronts/formations that would have 4 DE's on the field on passing downs. Because of that, I would feel as though we would be wasting a player/pick on another position of need if we were to do this.

TEXANS84
10-13-2010, 10:50 AM
That seems pretty implausible to me. Given the fact that Davis is on IR, Dickerson is a rookie, and AJ is hurt, I can't imagine us trading away our only legitimate deep threat who's a prominent player at (now) one of our most shallow positions.

I would sacrifice one of our 5 WR's for a defensive player that can apply pressure to the quarterback with no hesitation.

drs23
10-13-2010, 10:51 AM
I smell a trade coming....more than likely involving Jacoby Jones.

I guess I'm nieve and don't see the big picture, but how does trying out QBs and WRs tip off that a trade is in the air?

Serious question.

silvrhand
10-13-2010, 10:53 AM
I'm with you on the DT, we definitely need help there. But as far as DE, I'm just a little concerned that adding another one is going to hurt us in the long run rather than help. Anotonio is our all-purpose, with Connor being our pass-rushing specialist. If we get another it will help this year, but what would we do next?

I will agree that you can't have too much talent, but I don't think our coaching staff is the kind to use creative fronts/formations that would have 4 DE's on the field on passing downs. Because of that, I would feel as though we would be wasting a player/pick on another position of need if we were to do this.

I'm sorry Connor isn't a proven talent and we know nothing about the extent of his injury yet, so we can not assum he is going to make it back next year or that he can even play again. This might be why we are looking to trade now as well. I can not imagine that having another true DT, with another good DE would be a bad thing. Maybe Mario with all his injuries just can't play anymore?

silvrhand
10-13-2010, 10:55 AM
I guess I'm nieve and don't see the big picture, but how does trying out QBs and WRs tip off that a trade is in the air?

Serious question.

Why would we wast time trying out players otherwise?

gtexan02
10-13-2010, 10:57 AM
Jacoby and Leinart to the Cardinals for Antrel Rolle? :D

Thorn
10-13-2010, 10:58 AM
Why would we wast time trying out players otherwise?

Could be something as innocent as trying to upgrade players on the practice squad.

TheCD
10-13-2010, 10:58 AM
I'm sorry Connor isn't a proven talent and we know nothing about the extent of his injury yet, so we can not assum he is going to make it back next year or that he can even play again. This might be why we are looking to trade now as well. I can not imagine that having another true DT, with another good DE would be a bad thing. Maybe Mario with all his injuries just can't play anymore?

Understood. A guy won't necessariy come back from injury. My concern here is that we would pull current/potential talent away from other positions of need for a one-year stop-gap. If that doesn't turn out to be the case, great...but I don't think our coaching staff would utilize an abundance of talent to our advantage.


By the way...shame on you for that last sentence. If that's the case we all know who to blame for jinxing us! :rake:

silvrhand
10-13-2010, 10:58 AM
Could be something as innocent as trying to upgrade players on the practice squad.

If we are really worried about that I'm going down to the practice field and slapping Kubiak..

BigBull17
10-13-2010, 11:03 AM
Jacoby and Leinart to the Giants for Antrel Rolle? :D

Fixed it. He is a Gman.

Oh man that would be kind of nice, but I doubt we would want to pay Haynesworth what he thinks he's worth, and man do we really need another motivational issue player with a coach that can't seem to motivate?

I think it is possible, because Kubiak hears the whispers that he could be in trouble if the D continues to be awful.

Goldensilence
10-13-2010, 11:16 AM
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/10/12/texans-kick-tires-on-a-couple-of-quarterbacks/

Though the Houston Texans have three quarterbacks under contract, they spent part of Tuesday eyeballing two more.

Per a league source, Colt Brennan and Jarrett Brown tried out for the team on Tuesday.

The intentions aren't clear, but it could mean that Matt Leinart or Dan Orlovsky are on shaky ground.

The Texans also checked out four receivers: Reggie Brown, Derek Hagan, Dexter Jackson, and Demetrius Williams.

Jarrett Brown? Brennan might not be a bad project, yes he was a system QB but I think he's got the physical tools to be nice backup.

Help at WR? Interesting. None of them blow me way, but then again when you're mid-season scouring the waiver wire, you're not likely to be blown away at who is available.

I would love to see the FO make a move to bolster the team in the secondary. I think they're content to seeing what Anderson and Ogun. can do when they've gotten more reps.

nero THE zero
10-13-2010, 11:28 AM
Why would we wast time trying out players otherwise?

Pro-scouting.

We (and every other team) do it every week.

ArlingtonTexan
10-13-2010, 11:35 AM
Why would we wast time trying out players otherwise?

Teams (not just the Texans) regualrly try out players on Tuesdays, the names and position do not always get out, but this is par for the course work acros the entire NFL. Sometimes it is for immediate reasons like when we needed DEs, but often just to have direct knowledge of players if another injury or need emerges during the season.

WR has nothing to with trading, since Walter and Anderson are the only guys truly healthy. The Texans may need a body sooner than later.

El Tejano
10-13-2010, 11:44 AM
Teams (not just the Texans) regualrly try out players on Tuesdays, the names and position do not always get out, but this is par for the course work acros the entire NFL. Sometimes it is for immediate reasons like when we needed DEs, but often just to have direct knowledge of players if another injury or need emerges during the season.

WR has nothing to with trading, since Walter and Anderson are the only guys truly healthy. The Texans may need a body sooner than later.

I believe that this is all it is. I would add that knowing who's available in advance could allow us to know what kind of move we could make if a trade scenario came up (I can only hope we are that tedious as an organization).

Ex. If Detroit came to us and said, "hey Stafford is not going to be back for another two weeks and Shaun Hill needs a backup. You got a pretty good one listed as a 3rd stringer. You know damn well we aren't talking about Orlovsky so stop insisting. Seriously...quit it. We wan't Matt Leinart. Would you stop saying Dan? We are asking seriously for Leinart. How does a 4th rounder sound?
We complete the deal and then get on the phone to put one of the QBs we tried out on the roster.

I doubt that if there was a trade it would be for a CB. Kubiak has stated over and over that we are going to live with what we got. Besides why try to shore up a weakness, that makes too much sense.

beerlover
10-13-2010, 11:44 AM
I smell a trade coming....more than likely involving Jacoby Jones.

or Matt Leinart maybe both?

hot pickle
10-13-2010, 12:03 PM
derek hagan and demteirus williams are talented WR

J_R
10-13-2010, 12:10 PM
Appears they did want to sign LB Jamie Winborn

http://twitter.com/#!/jwyattsports/status/27259912185

jshabang
10-13-2010, 12:46 PM
I'll take a stab at it:

Jacoby Jones and Matt Leinart to the Redskins for Albert Haynesworth and Andre Carter.

now this is the type of moves u take a stab at when your defense is dead last and u want to prove to your swaying fanbase that u are committed to win and for them to hang in there

low risk high reward trades.......the texans have no risk in this.......if albert plays good great.......if not cut him with low cap number..........no harm no foul............for the guy who said we wouldnt wanna pay haynesworth......hes been paid already....handsomely....we wouldnt have much of a financial responsibility to him....redskins did it for us

and for those who say albert half plays.....albert haynesworth at 50% is light years better than what we have now in Cody and okam........i will take fat albert at 50% than any scrap heap DT we are running out there right now............period

plus his issue is he wants to play 4-3....not 3-4.....so thats half the battle right there....but anyone who can say with a straight face that a line with smith, haynesworth, okoye/mitchell, mario doesnt make u smile and scare the bejesus outta opposing quarterbacks is plain crazy....who do u double on a line like that?????????

ArlingtonTexan
10-13-2010, 05:18 PM
now this is the type of moves u take a stab at when your defense is dead last and u want to prove to your swaying fanbase that u are committed to win and for them to hang in there

low risk high reward trades.......the texans have no risk in this.......if albert plays good great.......if not cut him with low cap number..........no harm no foul............for the guy who said we wouldnt wanna pay haynesworth......hes been paid already....handsomely....we wouldnt have much of a financial responsibility to him....redskins did it for us

and for those who say albert half plays.....albert haynesworth at 50% is light years better than what we have now in Cody and okam........i will take fat albert at 50% than any scrap heap DT we are running out there right now............period

plus his issue is he wants to play 4-3....not 3-4.....so thats half the battle right there....but anyone who can say with a straight face that a line with smith, haynesworth, okoye/mitchell, mario doesnt make u smile and scare the bejesus outta opposing quarterbacks is plain crazy....who do u double on a line like that?????????

This is the kind of trade where one shoud ask why again should Redskins do this?