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dalemurphy
10-04-2010, 11:07 AM
I got in trouble with Barrett when I declared the game over at 31-14 only to see things get a little hairy in the fourth quarter. Overall, though, I was happy with the performance and I think the Texans showed their versatility and mental toughness. Here are some thoughts:

1. Rashod Butler is a highly servicable backup tackle. He doesn’t excel at anything. However, he also is never beat badly. Schaub never has to worry about getting hit from the blind side before his internal clock alerts him with Butler at LT. After about 3 seconds then he can pretty much expect Butler’s man to be slowly collapsing the pocket but probably still engaged with Rashad. Can’t ask for more than that from a backup! Also, Butler had a couple key back side cut blocks on some of the big zone runs, particularly on the 74 yard TD. On that play, both he and Wade Smith, cut the entire back side of the D-Line, allowing Foster and Leach a lot of room to operate in.

2. Great guard play yesterday! Wade Smith was excellent and Caldwell/Brisiel combined to have an absolutely dominate performance at RG.

3. Amobi Okoye’s ankle is healthy. CONTINUE READING (http://www.texansbullblog.com/texans-raiders-postgame-thoughts-dvr-review/news/)

NitroGSXR
10-04-2010, 11:15 AM
Pollard needs to stop hitting QBs so danged hard!

Houston_Fanatic
10-04-2010, 11:26 AM
Great analysis, as usual dalemurphy.

I liked how we came out throwing (didn't know at the time Foster had been benched). It seems like it takes Schaub some time to find a rhythm and when they start out with runnign the ball a lot at first he doesn't get that chance.

I also liked some of the offensive plays I saw. I heard they had to use some different plays because of missing some key players but I think they should do that more often.

Houston_Fanatic
10-04-2010, 11:27 AM
Pollard needs to stop hitting QBs so danged hard!

I disagree. I want opposing QB's to be worried about Pollard back there and get into their heads.

m5kwatts
10-04-2010, 12:03 PM
I think you're understating Antonio's performance. Wow. I must've rewatched his first sack of the game 10 times. He beats Loper off the line before Loper can even lift up his head. Literally, Antonio was tackling Gradkowski as Loper finally raised his head. That's called 5yr/$35 million dollar $12.5 million guaranteed burst off the line.

Also for as bad as Diles was, particularly vs. the tight end, he made a key play coming free on a blitz in the 2nd half. I remember it being a crucial forced incompletion.

Hardcore Texan
10-04-2010, 12:18 PM
I got in trouble with Barrett when I declared the game over at 31-14 only to see things get a little hairy in the fourth quarter. Overall, though, I was happy with the performance and I think the Texans showed their versatility and mental toughness. Here are some thoughts:

1. Rashod Butler is a highly servicable backup tackle. He doesn’t excel at anything. However, he also is never beat badly. Schaub never has to worry about getting hit from the blind side before his internal clock alerts him with Butler at LT. After about 3 seconds then he can pretty much expect Butler’s man to be slowly collapsing the pocket but probably still engaged with Rashad. Can’t ask for more than that from a backup! Also, Butler had a couple key back side cut blocks on some of the big zone runs, particularly on the 74 yard TD. On that play, both he and Wade Smith, cut the entire back side of the D-Line, allowing Foster and Leach a lot of room to operate in.

2. Great guard play yesterday! Wade Smith was excellent and Caldwell/Brisiel combined to have an absolutely dominate performance at RG.

3. Amobi Okoye’s ankle is healthy. CONTINUE READING (http://www.texansbullblog.com/texans-raiders-postgame-thoughts-dvr-review/news/)

I enjoyed reading that. I added your blog to my favorites.

El Tejano
10-04-2010, 12:29 PM
Was Ogunleye on the opposite sides when Mario and Smith lined up on the same side?

El Tejano
10-04-2010, 12:30 PM
I disagree. I want opposing QB's to be worried about Pollard back there and get into their heads.

Especially ones that like to take off and run it...hint hint!

dalemurphy
10-04-2010, 12:49 PM
Was Ogunleye on the opposite sides when Mario and Smith lined up on the same side?

Yes, both times Ogunleye was on the opposite side.

silvrhand
10-04-2010, 01:02 PM
I think you're understating Antonio's performance. Wow. I must've rewatched his first sack of the game 10 times. He beats Loper off the line before Loper can even lift up his head. Literally, Antonio was tackling Gradkowski as Loper finally raised his head. That's called 5yr/$35 million dollar $12.5 million guaranteed burst off the line.

Also for as bad as Diles was, particularly vs. the tight end, he made a key play coming free on a blitz in the 2nd half. I remember it being a crucial forced incompletion.

In my opinion Antonio Smith is the most consistent player on the DL right now.

Section516
10-04-2010, 01:04 PM
MW has been pretty money to date..

silvrhand
10-04-2010, 01:06 PM
MW has been pretty money to date..

Not going to get into this, but sorry Mario needs to learn how to bring his A game every game then I'll be glad to give him his props.

CloakNNNdagger
10-04-2010, 01:45 PM
Nice analysis and observations as usual.

Section516
10-04-2010, 01:46 PM
Not going to get into this, but sorry Mario needs to learn how to bring his A game every game then I'll be glad to give him his props.

This Season he seems to be bringing it every game so far...Sack per game (intentional grounding by Romo avoiding his in that game)

dalemurphy
10-04-2010, 03:13 PM
This Season he seems to be bringing it every game so far...Sack per game (intentional grounding by Romo avoiding his in that game)

I'm not attempting to discount Mario. That being said, A. Smith's energy is consistently higher and his ability and willingness to move around the entire d-line, allows Frank Bush to scheme pressure. Many of Mario's sacks this season are largely due to Antonio Smith's pressure when he lines up at DT.

infantrycak
10-04-2010, 04:33 PM
I'm not attempting to discount Mario. That being said, A. Smith's energy is consistently higher and his ability and willingness to move around the entire d-line, allows Frank Bush to scheme pressure. Many of Mario's sacks this season are largely due to Antonio Smith's pressure when he lines up at DT.

I think effort is very difficult for fans to judge. Smith looks peripatetic out there but that doesn't necessarily translate to a higher effort. He isn't as naturally gifted as Mario and uses a more hurried style to achieve what he does. Definitely agree Smith's performance helps Mario (and vice versa).

DexmanC
10-04-2010, 04:35 PM
I think effort is very difficult for fans to judge. Smith looks peripatetic out there but that doesn't necessarily translate to a higher effort. He isn't as naturally gifted as Mario and uses a more hurried style to achieve what he does. Definitely agree Smith's performance helps Mario (and vice versa).

This is definitely the case. Get two people to perform an activity. The guy
with high talent will be more productive, while looking like he's not trying at all.

dalemurphy
10-04-2010, 04:46 PM
This is definitely the case. Get two people to perform an activity. The guy
with high talent will be more productive, while looking like he's not trying at all.

I understand the point but do not entirely agree with it. I'm not comparing Mario's good plays with Smith's good plays. I'm referencing the plays where Mario is content to hand slap a TE or tackle while Smith is constantly working for an advantage on almost every play. That is what I'm referring to when I say "consistent energy". I'm not trying to bash Mario, though. Genuinely, it is an attempt to accomodate A.Smith.

Rey
10-04-2010, 04:56 PM
I'm not comparing Mario's good plays with Smith's good plays. I'm referencing the plays where Mario is content to hand slap a TE or tackle while Smith is constantly working for an advantage on almost every play.

When Mario sees that he's not going to get to the QB he tends to start playing the scramble or trying to get into position to jump up and possibly tip a ball.

I am almost positive that if the coaches told Mario to relentlessly go after the QB on every play he would play a bit differently.

But Mario is better against the run and he recognizes screens better than Smith.

If you look at the long screen pass that McFadden had early in the game (may have been their first drive) Mario feels McFadden release and he almost gets there to stop the play.

Basically, I think that Mario is a little more cerebral while Smith is a go, go, go guy.

dalemurphy
10-04-2010, 07:27 PM
When Mario sees that he's not going to get to the QB he tends to start playing the scramble or trying to get into position to jump up and possibly tip a ball.

I am almost positive that if the coaches told Mario to relentlessly go after the QB on every play he would play a bit differently.

But Mario is better against the run and he recognizes screens better than Smith.

If you look at the long screen pass that McFadden had early in the game (may have been their first drive) Mario feels McFadden release and he almost gets there to stop the play.

Basically, I think that Mario is a little more cerebral while Smith is a go, go, go guy.


I agree with basically all you are saying, but I think I am being misunderstood a little bit. I'm not suggesting that Smith is a better pass rusher. I am suggesting that through the first month, the combination of Smith's versatility (moving him all over the line) and his relentlessness has been the biggest key to the improvement of the pass defense.

BullNation4Life
10-04-2010, 10:46 PM
I got in trouble with Barrett when I declared the game over at 31-14 only to see things get a little hairy in the fourth quarter. Overall, though, I was happy with the performance and I think the Texans showed their versatility and mental toughness. Here are some thoughts:

1. Rashod Butler is a highly servicable backup tackle. He doesn’t excel at anything. However, he also is never beat badly. Schaub never has to worry about getting hit from the blind side before his internal clock alerts him with Butler at LT. After about 3 seconds then he can pretty much expect Butler’s man to be slowly collapsing the pocket but probably still engaged with Rashad. Can’t ask for more than that from a backup! Also, Butler had a couple key back side cut blocks on some of the big zone runs, particularly on the 74 yard TD. On that play, both he and Wade Smith, cut the entire back side of the D-Line, allowing Foster and Leach a lot of room to operate in.

2. Great guard play yesterday! Wade Smith was excellent and Caldwell/Brisiel combined to have an absolutely dominate performance at RG.

3. Amobi Okoye’s ankle is healthy. CONTINUE READING (http://www.texansbullblog.com/texans-raiders-postgame-thoughts-dvr-review/news/)

The Troy Nolan winning the starting job is a little premature. Nolan was in because Barber got hurt. Kubiak said today he will get more snaps but once Wilson is healthy, Wilson will be back on the field in his starting role. Let's hope not, Nolan by far is better....

GP
10-04-2010, 11:05 PM
The Troy Nolan winning the starting job is a little premature. Nolan was in because Barber got hurt. Kubiak said today he will get more snaps but once Wilson is healthy, Wilson will be back on the field in his starting role. Let's hope not, Nolan by far is better....

If Gary Kubiak is THAT dense, as to bench the guy with the hot hand, then Gawd help us all.

When you see THAT big of a jump in one game, it's absurdly obvious that you stick with it. Because you want players to see that coach gonna' play whoever deserves it.

This whole "Loyal to a fault" thing has to stop this year. I'm even to the point where if Jacoby Jones isn't going to catch footballs when they're essentially placed right into his hands, bench his butt too. Put someone in there who wants to catch passes on a consistent basis. And I'm as pro-Jacoby as they come around here.

This season can be a great one, if Kubiak cans the roster horsecrap.

dalemurphy
10-04-2010, 11:33 PM
The Troy Nolan winning the starting job is a little premature. Nolan was in because Barber got hurt. Kubiak said today he will get more snaps but once Wilson is healthy, Wilson will be back on the field in his starting role. Let's hope not, Nolan by far is better....

Kubiak did not say Wilson will returning to starting at FS. At least, I sure don't think he did.

imatexan
10-05-2010, 02:52 AM
Speaking of re-watching games, why does NFL rewind not have the Texans/Oakland game up!?

I want to watch it, again.

dalemurphy
10-05-2010, 05:12 AM
This is definitely the case. Get two people to perform an activity. The guy
with high talent will be more productive, while looking like he's not trying at all.

edit. sorry

barrett
10-05-2010, 03:01 PM
Kubiak did not say Wilson will returning to starting at FS. At least, I sure don't think he did.

Rotoworld is siting the chronicle as saying Kubiak expects Wilson to be "back" in week 5. Back as in Back-up is what I'm thinking.