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TheRealJoker
10-02-2010, 11:40 AM
Time for KW, JJ, and Dreesen to step up while our injured pro bowlers return to health. I'd love to see us utilize Casey and Graham a bit this week, along with whichever WR isn't covered by Aso. I think Anderson can come up big for us against the Oakland.

But most importantly of all, we need the OL to keep Schaub clean and Foster to run all over that Raider defense.

drs23
10-02-2010, 11:44 AM
Time for KW, JJ, and Dreesen to step up while our injured pro bowlers return to health. I'd love to see us utilize Casey and Graham a bit this week, along with whichever WR isn't covered by Aso. I think Anderson can come up big for us against the Oakland.

But most importantly of all, we need the OL to keep Schaub clean and Foster to run all over that Raider defense.

I agree. Jacoby needs to have a break-out game and develop some sticky hands. He and K-Dub need to have a big day and the Raiders need a steady diet of #23!

CloakNNNdagger
10-02-2010, 01:21 PM
We are not going to being able to get where we want to go if we intend to rely mostly on AJ and/or OD to win. Our other TEs and WRs will have to be ready whenever called upon to reliably give us game plan options. Put THEM in position to win games for us now AND later.

Pollardized
10-02-2010, 01:30 PM
We are not going to being able to get where we want to go if we intend to rely mostly on AJ and/or OD to win. Our other TEs and WRs will have to be ready whenever called upon to reliably give us game plan options. Put THEM in position to win games for us now AND later.

Exactly. I watched the colts game this past sunday, you could have wayne and clark smothered, manning finds collie. smother collie too? ok, manning finds some guy i've never heard of before for a TD. unbelievable how other teams find a way to get the ball to the open receiver, no matter who it is.

TimeKiller
10-02-2010, 02:05 PM
It would be nice to see the passing offense reclaim it's elite status, especially against a good D.

RTP2110
10-02-2010, 02:40 PM
I'm hoping to see Foster get at least 25 carries. I haven't watched Oakland at all, but they're allowing 4.6 per rush. If Foster can attract most of the attention, that may open stuff up for the passing game which will need the help if AJ and OD are out.

Lucky
10-02-2010, 03:19 PM
I think Anderson can come up big for us against the Oakland.
Why? Anderson has never had a big game in his 5 year career. His high total of catches is 5. His largest receiving day in terms of yardage is 65. Anderson hasn't scored in 24 games.

Anderson is the most overrated player on the Texans roster. Not just by Texan fans, but by Kubiak and the coaching staff. It's inexplicable to me that this guy who brings so little to the table gets a roster spot, year after year.

Conversely, Jacoby Jones may be on the verge of becoming a solid NFL WR. Jones has (5) games of 50+ receiving yards in his last 9 games. If AJ is out and the Raiders stick Nnamdi on Walter (I would), JJ could come up with his biggest day as a pro.

CloakNNNdagger
10-02-2010, 03:35 PM
Why? Anderson has never had a big game in his 5 year career. His high total of catches is 5. His largest receiving day in terms of yardage is 65. Anderson hasn't scored in 24 games.

Anderson is the most overrated player on the Texans roster. Not just by Texan fans, but by Kubiak and the coaching staff. It's inexplicable to me that this guy who brings so little to the table gets a roster spot, year after year.

Conversely, Jacoby Jones may be on the verge of becoming a solid NFL WR. Jones has (5) games of 50+ receiving yards in his last 9 games. If AJ is out and the Raiders stick Nnamdi on Walter (I would), JJ could come up with his biggest day as a pro.


Seems like we may catch a break for our offensive game.

Raider's injury report (http://www.mercurynews.com/raiders/ci_16222123?nclick_check=1):

For the Silver & Black, receiver Darrius Heyward-Bey joined the injury list with a groin strain.

Players questionable are: defensive tackles Richard Seymour (hamstring) and John Henderson (foot), cornerbacks Chris Johnson (ankle) and Jeremy Ware (ankle) and safety Hiram Eugene (hamstring).

barrett
10-02-2010, 03:43 PM
Why? Anderson has never had a big game in his 5 year career. His high total of catches is 5. His largest receiving day in terms of yardage is 65. Anderson hasn't scored in 24 games.

Anderson is the most overrated player on the Texans roster. Not just by Texan fans, but by Kubiak and the coaching staff. It's inexplicable to me that this guy who brings so little to the table gets a roster spot, year after year.

Conversely, Jacoby Jones may be on the verge of becoming a solid NFL WR. Jones has (5) games of 50+ receiving yards in his last 9 games. If AJ is out and the Raiders stick Nnamdi on Walter (I would), JJ could come up with his biggest day as a pro.

I don't disagree with you. I think Kubiak feels like he's a good "clutch" receiver. 22 of his 38 receptions last year were for 1st downs.

2009 - 22 of 39 were for 1st downs
2008 - 13 of 19 were for 1st downs
2007 - 09 of 12 were for 1st downs

Whatever that is, scheme, awareness, luck, I don't know, but it's a valid stat.

But no way he's due for a big game. He's just due for more of the same.

I have issues with Jones' hands this season. Last year he made some spectacular catches but he's been extremely frustrating this year. The worst part is, when he misses the ball it almost always seems to bounce into the air begging for a INT.

Lucky
10-02-2010, 03:55 PM
22 of 38 catches going for 1st downs is the lowest percentage (57%) among Texan WRs last season.

AJ 69 of 101 = 68%
Walter 33 of 53 = 62%
Jones 19 of 27 = 70%

The opposition has to be doing cartwheels when the Texans are targeting Anderson.

barrett
10-02-2010, 04:07 PM
If they do cartwheels then he's going to be able to run for the first!

Good point Lucky. I didn't bother to compare his numbers to the other WR's.

The crazy reality is I know I've heard a quote from Kubiak about how important having a "funny guy" like DA is to the team. Something I remember hearing when he got his extension.

houstonspartan
10-02-2010, 10:05 PM
Lucky,

Damn, now you have me really thinking about David Anderson. You have good points. I'd never really thought about his production before. Now that you mention it, he appears to be all smoke and mirrors.

I think a lot of us are caught up in his personality and don't really look at the player. And, because we have AJ, we really don't look at the other recievers as much.

Rey
10-02-2010, 10:22 PM
Anderson is the most overrated player on the Texans roster. Not just by Texan fans, but by Kubiak and the coaching staff. It's inexplicable to me that this guy who brings so little to the table gets a roster spot, year after year.


Generally, I agree.

In fact earlier today when I was watching some college teams I saw some receivers that I'd love to have replace DA.

I think you sell him a bit short though. He does have some value. He knows how to find open spots and he has reliable hands.

He and Kevin Walter had a bout the same Catch to Target Ratio.

Walter only averaged 1.8 yards more per catch and DA actually beat him pretty good in YAC with less catches.

We can definitely find a better player than him to put on the roster or to get his receptions, but I think he is a good player.

ArlingtonTexan
10-02-2010, 10:42 PM
The Texans aren't truly deep at either position, but have okay dudes(Jones and Walter), system guys (Anderson and Dressen), and unproven potential (Dickerson, Graham and Casey), once you get past AJ and a healthy Daniels. The depth isn't terrible like some positions, but running out Jacoby, Walter, Anderson and Dressen for more than a week or two is of little interest to me.

krocket
10-02-2010, 11:30 PM
Personally, I would like to see Dickerson step right into AJ's position and set it on fire. The rest of the game goes on.