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Kimmy
09-30-2010, 10:29 PM
Do you agree or disagree? Personally I would rather them limit it to parking passes only

gtexan02
09-30-2010, 10:31 PM
Whats the new rule?

JB
09-30-2010, 11:02 PM
Kimmy, I need to vote in two categories that you have listed. I hate the new rule, though I do see the reasons behind it. But, I don't have tickets or parking passes or PSL's. I get to go to the game sometimes thanks to the genorosity of TB. How do you let legitimate fans that are there to see the game in while keeping out the trouble makers? I have no idea. But I think there has to be a better solution than what they are implementing.

Ckw
09-30-2010, 11:04 PM
Maybe you should explain what this new limit is exactly. Methinks not everything knows what you are referring to.

houstonspartan
09-30-2010, 11:05 PM
I have been a PSL holder for 5 years. I was hanging out with some friends and got the email from the Texans on my phone. I looked down and damn-near let out a yell.

Fantastic idea. It took me an hour an a half to get into Reliant last weekend.

Stemp
09-30-2010, 11:11 PM
No one is allowed to tailgate without a ticket. Texans will now sell tailgating only tickets for $10 each, limit 4 per account, and only 2000 per game.

There are a lot of groups who have people without tickets who watch the game (and all the stuff) at the tailgate. Texans have one of the best tailgate atmospheres partially because non-ticket holders can still party.

Ckw
09-30-2010, 11:23 PM
This is complete bull ****.

This franchise continues to piss me off more and more every year. So if I want to go down to meet some friends that are season ticket holders and hang out with them at their tailgate, hope I can find some tickets but if not, watch the game on their tv, what is wrong with that?

I am getting to the point that I am ready to just say **** the Texans organization. I will root for the football players but like eriadoc, I kind of would like to get to the point that I do nothing to actually support the organization. They **** the fans every chance they get, raise ticket prices after losing and .500 seasons, and charge for every damn thing we do.

Hagar
09-30-2010, 11:44 PM
Hate it, hate it, hate it!

My tailgate has a cooking crew who does not go into the game. We've managed to buy an extra parking pass for them each year to get them and thier truck on the lot. That all screwed up now. **** the TEXANS.

They finally have some success after all these years and then they pull this bull****! Texans, it was the great tailgating and party that kept many of us coming back each year when you sucked (2-14 my ass).

Instead of hindering fans from coming on the lot, why don't you try selling tickets to Texans fans instead of Cowgirls.

Tailgate
10-01-2010, 01:23 AM
LOVE IT. I have been paying for season tickets since day one. Dont get me wrong, I am all about the tailgate, going all out, etc. But it has just gone too far. When is it enough people? I am sorry, getting in and out has become way too much of a hassle.... not to mention I have noticed an extra dose of riff raf have been flooding the lot areas more and more.

stingray
10-01-2010, 02:13 AM
LOVE IT. I have been paying for season tickets since day one. Dont get me wrong, I am all about the tailgate, going all out, etc. But it has just gone too far. When is it enough people? I am sorry, getting in and out has become way too much of a hassle.... not to mention I have noticed an extra dose of riff raf have been flooding the lot areas more and more.

This is exactly what I was going to say. Many of these shady characters didn't even wanna get out of the way when were trying to get out of the Blue Lot. I honked and they gave the screw you look. And it seems, the bigger the game the more shady the crowd gets.

Grams
10-01-2010, 05:04 AM
Question?

NowI do not tailgate, but then I also do not have tickets. My couch is very comfy.

But isn't the purpose of tailgating is that those going to the game and have tickets - to get together and enjoy the atmosphere before the game with other fans going to the game?

From what I read, they are having problems with people who do not have tickets. That stay in the parking lot and do not go into the game. If you don't have a ticket, why are they parking and taking up spots that those with tickets should be using?

If one does not have tickets to the game, why not have your own "tailgate" at home and invite friends over?

Texan_Bill
10-01-2010, 07:32 AM
Kimmy, I need to vote in two categories that you have listed. I hate the new rule, though I do see the reasons behind it. But, I don't have tickets or parking passes or PSL's. I get to go to the game sometimes thanks to the genorosity of TB. How do you let legitimate fans that are there to see the game in while keeping out the trouble makers? I have no idea. But I think there has to be a better solution than what they are implementing.

What's worse is that the extra ticket that I have for you on occasion, I am not the PSL owner. Therefore I can't email it to you ahead of time. I have 4 tickets total. Two that I have the PSL's for and two that I do not.

This is some Buuuuuuuuuuuuuuull ****e!

Texanmike02
10-01-2010, 07:38 AM
So wait. I am ok as long as I have a ticket period right? I hope this isn't saying that I must have a "tailgate ticket" in addition to the game ticket.

Mike

hobie
10-01-2010, 07:46 AM
So wait. I am ok as long as I have a ticket period right? I hope this isn't saying that I must have a "tailgate ticket" in addition to the game ticket.

Mike

Correct, a gameday ticket is like an all access... you are good, it is for those who do not have gameday tickets

BIG TORO
10-01-2010, 08:35 AM
I have to say I love it, It will make it alot less congested going in and out of stadium for paying customers! It will also keep tailgating alive for much longer, things were getting out of hand and all it would take would be one person getting shot and killed to end tailgating as a whole. This places responsibility on ticket owners.

HTown2ATX
10-01-2010, 08:39 AM
I put that I hate it but it's really just that I don't like it.

I don't have season tickets so when I do go to a game I have a ticket from someone so I could get in anyway. My only thing was that I liked wandering the masses of tailgaters and meeting people, eating, drinking, etc.....

I feel like that will be cut down now. So, was it really that bad aside from the YouTube video?

JB
10-01-2010, 11:05 AM
LOVE IT. I have been paying for season tickets since day one. Dont get me wrong, I am all about the tailgate, going all out, etc. But it has just gone too far. When is it enough people? I am sorry, getting in and out has become way too much of a hassle.... not to mention I have noticed an extra dose of riff raf have been flooding the lot areas more and more.

You are liable to to have a bigger hassle getting in now if they are checking every person for a gameday ticket.

Ckw
10-01-2010, 11:17 AM
You are liable to to have a bigger hassle getting in now if they are checking every person for a gameday ticket.

Exactly!!!!

We were rated the #1 tailgating spot in the country for a reason. Now this will significantly be cut down all in an effort for McNair the Miserable to make an extra $20k per game. Ridiculous!

And this is coming from a guy that has only "tailgated without a ticket" once in his whole life and that happened to be last week. I wasn't about to pay the ridiculous amounts people were charging for tickets so some buddies and I chipped in and got a parking pass, brought our flat screen, and had a blast tailgating with our Texan brethren. This is BS.

Hookem Horns
10-01-2010, 11:17 AM
So what would have happened to me on Sunday if this rule was being enforced? I came down from Austin with 2 friends. We had 2 tix and 1 yellow parking pass. Preston had my ticket in the Blue Lot. So would they have prevented me from coming in because I didn't have my ticket in hand yet?

You are liable to to have a bigger hassle getting in now if they are checking every person for a gameday ticket.

Yeah, what about this? Imagine how backed up traffic is going to be waiting for these people to check everyone's ticket and then have the delays of dealing with and arguing with people that don't have all of their tickets on them.

To me this sounds like them not liking the fact that a segment of people are coming out, getting a partial game day experience and them not banking off of those people.

eriadoc
10-01-2010, 11:23 AM
For a variety of reasons, I am no longer a PSL or season ticket holder. I have made it to a couple tailgates since I gave up my tickets, however, and I had a good time and felt connected to the team. This policy will just further my disconnect from the team, to be honest. At this point, I don't see myself doing much more than watching them on TV going forward, since I can't tailgate.

And people keep saying you can get a tailgate ticket, but sorry .... only 2000 available. Those will be gone in no time and probably scalped by the same types of ticket brokers that owned the seats next to me for years. So now you'll have Cowboy/Titan fans who bought a tailgate ticket from some broker, so they'll feel entitled to be there and act like a jackass.

Add this to the myriad of other minor things that they've done to annoy the fans, and I'm certainly not motivated to give them money, that's for sure.

hobie
10-01-2010, 11:26 AM
Exactly!!!!

We were rated the #1 tailgating spot in the country for a reason. Now this will significantly be cut down all in an effort for McNair the Miserable to make an extra $20k per game. Ridiculous!

And this is coming from a guy that has only "tailgated without a ticket" once in his whole life and that happened to be last week. I wasn't about to pay the ridiculous amounts people were charging for tickets so some buddies and I chipped in and got a parking pass, brought our flat screen, and had a blast tailgating with our Texan brethren. This is BS.

Let me stir the pot just a little...
"We were rated the #1 tailgating spot in the country for a reason. Now this will significantly be cut down"
OK, that and a cup of coffee gets you what??? Right, a cup of coffee.. Other than saying we are the best, what exactly do you personally get out of it. I mean bragging about it, ok, that is it.. And. What does it matter, please tell me. What if Houston had say the 4th best in the league, ok, so what. Would that mean KC ( not sure who 4th is, just go with me), would move up a spot and then the 2nd would be top tailgating place.. OK, again, that and a cup of coffee gets them what.. NOTHING..

Ok, remember, I am not attacking you, just wanted to see your response to the # 1 tailgate spot...why that really matters..

eriadoc
10-01-2010, 11:31 AM
Ok, remember, I am not attacking you, just wanted to see your response to the # 1 tailgate spot...why that really matters..

It matters because more fans can feel connected to the team than just those who buy tickets. When a team is winning, everyone will root for them. When they have not been a winning franchise, things like tailgating help overcome that to some degree, because the team is still providing a good experience to its fans. Now, it'll just be to its customers.

Double Barrel
10-01-2010, 11:32 AM
Let me stir the pot just a little...
"We were rated the #1 tailgating spot in the country for a reason. Now this will significantly be cut down"
OK, that and a cup of coffee gets you what??? Right, a cup of coffee.. Other than saying we are the best, what exactly do you personally get out of it. I mean bragging about it, ok, that is it.. And. What does it matter, please tell me. What if Houston had say the 4th best in the league, ok, so what. Would that mean KC ( not sure who 4th is, just go with me), would move up a spot and then the 2nd would be top tailgating place.. OK, again, that and a cup of coffee gets them what.. NOTHING..

Ok, remember, I am not attacking you, just wanted to see your response to the # 1 tailgate spot...why that really matters..

Because at least we're no. 1 in something. :evil: not anymore, tho'

The Texans need to have a new lot (i.e. Astroworld grounds) just for fans that aren't going to the game. Price the parking passes to pay for the security and porta-potties. This would stop the congestion in the regular lots and keep the riff-raff to a segregated area. :winky:

hobie
10-01-2010, 11:45 AM
Because at least we're no. 1 in something. :evil: not anymore, tho'

The Texans need to have a new lot (i.e. Astroworld grounds) just for fans that aren't going to the game. Price the parking passes to pay for the security and porta-potties. This would stop the congestion in the regular lots and keep the riff-raff to a segregated area. :winky:

That means you are talking about yourself.... :clap:

Ckw
10-01-2010, 11:48 AM
Let me stir the pot just a little...
"We were rated the #1 tailgating spot in the country for a reason. Now this will significantly be cut down"
OK, that and a cup of coffee gets you what??? Right, a cup of coffee.. Other than saying we are the best, what exactly do you personally get out of it. I mean bragging about it, ok, that is it.. And. What does it matter, please tell me. What if Houston had say the 4th best in the league, ok, so what. Would that mean KC ( not sure who 4th is, just go with me), would move up a spot and then the 2nd would be top tailgating place.. OK, again, that and a cup of coffee gets them what.. NOTHING..

Ok, remember, I am not attacking you, just wanted to see your response to the # 1 tailgate spot...why that really matters..

No worries. As eriadoc stated, it helps get other Texans fans in Houston involved and feeling like they are participating with the team even if they can't afford a ticket to a particular game. It was simply meant to be apart of my rant to show how popular tailgating is in Houston and how much fun tailgating is at Reliant.

Because at least we're no. 1 in something. :evil: not anymore, tho'

The Texans need to have a new lot (i.e. Astroworld grounds) just for fans that aren't going to the game. Price the parking passes to pay for the security and porta-potties. This would stop the congestion in the regular lots and keep the riff-raff to a segregated area. :winky:

Stellar idea. I could definitely go for this. Charge $10 per car or something like that and let everyone go over there and party it up.

hobie
10-01-2010, 11:49 AM
It matters because more fans can feel connected to the team than just those who buy tickets. When a team is winning, everyone will root for them. When they have not been a winning franchise, things like tailgating help overcome that to some degree, because the team is still providing a good experience to its fans. Now, it'll just be to its customers.

OK, but how does tailgating make the connection anymore to the team than a house party or going to a sportsbar and cheering with other fans? I do not think a real fan has to be at the game or tailgating to feel a connection. I get your point, but just because it is said that Houston has the best tailgating in the NFL doesn't mean anymore to me than reports saying we have the fattest city in the country...

hobie
10-01-2010, 11:56 AM
No worries. As eriadoc stated, it helps get other Texans fans in Houston involved and feeling like they are participating with the team even if they can't afford a ticket to a particular game. It was simply meant to be apart of my rant to show how popular tailgating is in Houston and how much fun tailgating is at Reliant.

And you are correct, it is a great experience, I take nothing from that ! But if that drops Houston to 3rd best tailgating in the NFL, that wouldn't matter, would it?? Since I tailgate and have ST, I cannot give my opinion from that side of the fence, but being told that you cannot do it anymore really upsets people who just go to tailgate..House party or meet a group at a sportsbar isn't the same? Cheering with same fans is a great time regardless of where you are I would think...

The1ApplePie
10-01-2010, 12:05 PM
As far parking at Astroworld, my company ran a lot out there at the Rodeo. We have a good relationship with some of the Reliant grounds people. A new company took it over and tried charging $20 for parking last weekend. They refused to give Reliant their cut, so they locked the gates on the other side of the bridge from Astroworld. I hope the people enjoyed walking.

Double Barrel
10-01-2010, 12:11 PM
That means you are talking about yourself.... :clap:

Hey now, I come from long line of riff-raff, from my g.g.grandfather who was on the bottom decks of the Titanic to myself, always at the back of the class (and I'm a marksman with a spit-ball, so watch out!).

I've been invited on several occasions to come to tailgates and watch the game on t.v. in the parking lot, but it just doesn't appeal to me. I'm not knocking it for others and to each his/her own, but it's just not my thing.

ATXtexanfan
10-01-2010, 12:31 PM
it sucks cause this was unorganized. they had to have known extra security was needed for one. also we have had mnf and no problems. i feel bad for those who enjoyed tailgating throught the game. i'm sure they will expand tailgate passes once the new law and order becomes routine.

Tailgate
10-01-2010, 12:53 PM
At this point, I don't see myself doing much more than watching them on TV going forward, since I can't tailgate.

You CAN tailgate, WITH a ticket. Its pretty simple... go to game, have a tailgate. I thought that was pretty much the idea? Watching them on TV is exactly what they want you to do instead of clogging up the parking lots for the people who do have the tickets.

hobie
10-01-2010, 01:21 PM
You CAN tailgate, WITH a ticket. Its pretty simple... go to game, have a tailgate. I thought that was pretty much the idea? Watching them on TV is exactly what they want you to do instead of clogging up the parking lots for the people who do have the tickets.

Quite the novel idea huh???!!

Blake
10-01-2010, 01:41 PM
To all the people who are pissed off about the new policy.

I am so sorry that you wont be able to drink, cook, tailgate or party for free. The Texans dont pay money to support thousands of free riders with Port-o-potties, parking staff, security, and other amenities that paying customers should get.

I shouldnt have to wait 30 minutes to use the bathroom because 1/2 the city wants to come and sit around in the parking lot.

It shouldnt take me over an hour to exit the parking lot.

It shouldnt take me 45 minutes to enter the stadium from the parking lot.


If you want to continue doing your thang in the parking lot, consider paying the $10 and move on.

:neener:

hobie
10-01-2010, 02:37 PM
To all the people who are pissed off about the new policy.

I am so sorry that you wont be able to drink, cook, tailgate or party for free. The Texans dont pay money to support thousands of free riders with Port-o-potties, parking staff, security, and other amenities that paying customers should get.

I shouldnt have to wait 30 minutes to use the bathroom because 1/2 the city wants to come and sit around in the parking lot.

It shouldnt take me over an hour to exit the parking lot.

It shouldnt take me 45 minutes to enter the stadium from the parking lot.


If you want to continue doing your thang in the parking lot, consider paying the $10 and move on.

:neener:

I knew you were the devil stirring up trouble !!
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eriadoc
10-01-2010, 07:13 PM
You CAN tailgate, WITH a ticket.

Uh huh. Good luck being one of the lucky 2000.


If you want to continue doing your thang in the parking lot, consider paying the $10 and move on.

I'd happily pay the $10 for a tailgating ticket. I've paid for parking passes, so it's obvious that the money isn't the issue. It's the availability.

Texan_Bill
10-01-2010, 07:22 PM
I knew you were the devil stirring up trouble !!
Posts: 6,014
Rep Power: 666

I could negative rep. him to get him off that number! :gamer:

J/K!


In any event, I'm pissed about the new policy but not for the same reason as others. I usually have an extra ticket and when I invite someone, I tell them to meet me in Blue Crew. They're responsible for their own parking, but come meet me and I'll give them the ticket. How will that work now? In JB's case, it's not practical to meet him ahead of time, because that silly sumbitch lives in the sticks. Do I take a chance and mail it to him? What if he's not sure he can make it until late Thursday evening?

Before someone replies with the old email the ticket it to him, I do NOT own the PSL on this particular ticket, so that's not an option.

Buffi2
10-01-2010, 08:13 PM
I like it. Toward the end of the season last year, I began to feel a bit uncomfortable getting to my car after the games. For the first time since year one 1 I actually was a bit frightened a few times when surrounded by dancing, screaming, sometimes antagonistic drunken fans.

After the Dallas game, I even went so far as to lock the doors to my truck while sitting in the parking lot and had decided it was too dangerous for this old female person to attend the games in the company of other old female persons. I either needed a body guard or stop going to the games. I'm hoping this new rule will help.

Speedy
10-01-2010, 08:34 PM
In any event, I'm pissed about the new policy but not for the same reason as others. I usually have an extra ticket and when I invite someone, I tell them to meet me in Blue Crew. They're responsible for their own parking, but come meet me and I'll give them the ticket. How will that work now? In JB's case, it's not practical to meet him ahead of time, because that silly sumbitch lives in the sticks. Do I take a chance and mail it to him? What if he's not sure he can make it until late Thursday evening?

This is a problem I now have to face too. Just love how the people who do it right are the ones that have to pay and are punished for the actions of few asshats.

Bull Pen 1
10-01-2010, 08:40 PM
I would have emailed it to you, no problem Hookem Horns.


So what would have happened to me on Sunday if this rule was being enforced? I came down from Austin with 2 friends. We had 2 tix and 1 yellow parking pass. Preston had my ticket in the Blue Lot. So would they have prevented me from coming in because I didn't have my ticket in hand yet?



Yeah, what about this? Imagine how backed up traffic is going to be waiting for these people to check everyone's ticket and then have the delays of dealing with and arguing with people that don't have all of their tickets on them.

To me this sounds like them not liking the fact that a segment of people are coming out, getting a partial game day experience and them not banking off of those people.

Texan_Bill
10-01-2010, 08:45 PM
This is a problem I now have to face too. Just love how the people who do it right are the ones that have to pay and are punished for the actions of few asshats.

I support this!!! :thumbup

Texan_Bill
10-01-2010, 08:46 PM
So what would have happened to me on Sunday if this rule was being enforced? I came down from Austin with 2 friends. We had 2 tix and 1 yellow parking pass. Preston had my ticket in the Blue Lot. So would they have prevented me from coming in because I didn't have my ticket in hand yet?

Exactly!

Texan_Bill
10-01-2010, 08:48 PM
So what would have happened to me on Sunday if this rule was being enforced? I came down from Austin with 2 friends. We had 2 tix and 1 yellow parking pass. Preston had my ticket in the Blue Lot. So would they have prevented me from coming in because I didn't have my ticket in hand yet?

Exactly!

************************

BTW, generally speaking, I get the spirit of the policy, but as Speedy said "why should we be punished?"

Bull Pen 1
10-01-2010, 08:53 PM
Send the ticket overnight (express), yes of course I work at the post office.

I could negative rep. him to get him off that number! :gamer:

J/K!


In any event, I'm pissed about the new policy but not for the same reason as others. I usually have an extra ticket and when I invite someone, I tell them to meet me in Blue Crew. They're responsible for their own parking, but come meet me and I'll give them the ticket. How will that work now? In JB's case, it's not practical to meet him ahead of time, because that silly sumbitch lives in the sticks. Do I take a chance and mail it to him? What if he's not sure he can make it until late Thursday evening?

Before someone replies with the old email the ticket it to him, I do NOT own the PSL on this particular ticket, so that's not an option.

Texan_Bill
10-01-2010, 08:54 PM
Send the ticket overnight (express), yes of course I work at the post office.

:facepalm: Bill!!!


Preston, I forgot you work for the postal system... :cowboy1:

Rey
10-01-2010, 08:57 PM
What did people do when their car broke down on the side of the road before cell phones were invented????

You guys that have to get tickets to people will be fine. You will adapt and find a way to get'r done.

Man has not survived this long only to hit a snag because they can't get tickets to their friends on gameday.

Bull Pen 1
10-01-2010, 08:57 PM
:facepalm: Bill!!!


Preston, I forgot you work for the postal system... :cowboy1:


Actually if you mail something from the surrounding area to and from Houston you will receive it the next day.

Speedy
10-01-2010, 09:28 PM
What did people do when their car broke down on the side of the road before cell phones were invented????

You guys that have to get tickets to people will be fine. You will adapt and find a way to get'r done.

Man has not survived this long only to hit a snag because they can't get tickets to their friends on gameday.

It's not about adapting. It's about making EVERYONE pay for the actions of a few morons. A few Cowboy morons at that. And it's about thinking that a policy is going to stop people from being and doing stupid things. It's not, and all this does is make this more of a pain in the ass for all of us who do this right.

Yes, tailgating will survive, we will find a way, but that doesn't make it right.

Rey
10-01-2010, 09:38 PM
It's not about adapting. It's about making EVERYONE pay for the actions of a few morons. A few Cowboy morons at that. And it's about thinking that a policy is going to stop people from being and doing stupid things. It's not, and all this does is make this more of a pain in the ass for all of us who do this right.

Yes, tailgating will survive, we will find a way, but that doesn't make it right.

Out of the few videos that I have seen, I have yet to witness any cowboy fans involved in any of the altercations.

I'm not saying that they didn't do their share...just saying that Cowboy fans couldn't have possibly been the main culprits????

And I understand what you were saying...I was halfway joking with my post...

But from my understanding the change wasn't just made in response to the altercations...It was a combination of things....Rowdy fans + people being jerks + lengthy waits to get out + some other stuff....

Not saying it's right, but at this point it is what it is.

JB
10-01-2010, 09:38 PM
Actually if you mail something from the surrounding area to and from Houston you will receive it the next day.

You're not familiar with the Conroe Post Office are you???

Ckw
10-01-2010, 09:55 PM
I too am fine paying money. Hell, they can charge me $10 or $15 for a tailgating pass, and I will have no problem. As others have said, the limited availability is the problem.

Also, this doesn't solve the problem of people wanting to meet at the game to get the ticket. Sure, in many cases, you can just mail the ticket, email it, or whatever. But what if someone cancels at the last minute, you call another friend, and they decide they want to come and meet you there? If a policy were implemented that charged all those without a ticket to pay for a tailgating pass, how is it fair for the friend to have to pay the $10 or $15 when he is about to get a ticket?

There are just far too many holes and problems with this setup.

Tailgate
10-01-2010, 10:01 PM
There are just far too many holes and problems with this setup.

We don't know how this "setup" is even going to go down yet.

BullPenPhotos
10-01-2010, 10:07 PM
This is a problem I now have to face too. Just love how the people who do it right are the ones that have to pay and are punished for the actions of few asshats.

Isn't this what we have to deal with the actions of a Democratly controlled congress? :thinking:

Dutchrudder
10-01-2010, 11:22 PM
I have no idea what this is about, but my couch is comfy, thanks for askin :D

SheTexan
10-02-2010, 12:34 AM
As I've said before, I like the policy. Those of us who take friends or family, we'll find a way to get them their ticket. If I have to make a choice of going out of my way on a Sat night to take a friend a ticket over having to deal with gangs and troublemakers, I'll make the trip to my friends house with a smile on my face, or meet him/her half way. I've had to "eat" the cost of tickets many times before, so if someone backs out on gameday, that's just tough luck. I can always hand a ticket to someone through the fence also, and they can walk in. Those of us who pay mega bucks for tickets and parking passes should feel relieved, I know I am. It WILL work out, we just have to be patient and let the process work.

cardiactgaters
10-02-2010, 07:27 AM
its good !!! :bravo:im in the orange lot by reliant arena alway a damn fight 3 rows down and trash !!!! left everwhere im glad it happened now my family and i i and a few friends with other season ticket holders can enjoy tailgating and the texans :fans:

thunderkyss
10-02-2010, 09:09 AM
I'm a little confused.

I park in Orange Lot, but because of the extra traffic, they parked me in the middle of Reliant Parkway. It didn't take me long to get in, didn't take me long to get out. So I really didn't see much of the problem.

But, I thought you coldn't drive in without a parking pass.... is it really possible for people to print up multiple parking passes? As convenient as that is, and as obvious as that has to be, if that did lead to the problem, wouldn't it be prudent to remove that privelidge?

Also, not all the tailgates are huge affairs. The big ones, taking multiple lots should be (IMHO) moved to designated areas closer to the stadium. That way they shouldn't be blocking the vehicles exiting Reliant.

Has any of you tailgaters who normally take up multiple spots ever had anyone check the number of parking passes you have? I don't know that they are checking, but I think they should be.

Finally.... For the tailgates that are drawing lots of people (& we all know who they are)... Reliant ought to be splitting the money with you. I don't know the numbers, But if there are 20 large tailgates total, there should be a weekly contest with 20 winners in the money. Large tailgates cost several hundreds of dollars in food alone, so if $10 a ticket, 2000 tickets don't cover the bill, they need to dip into some of that parking pass money to get at least a couple hundred to all the large, people (fans) gathering tailgates.

dbruder44
10-02-2010, 09:27 AM
I'm a little confused.

I park in Orange Lot, but because of the extra traffic, they parked me in the middle of Reliant Parkway. It didn't take me long to get in, didn't take me long to get out. So I really didn't see much of the problem.

But, I thought you coldn't drive in without a parking pass.... is it really possible for people to print up multiple parking passes? As convenient as that is, and as obvious as that has to be, if that did lead to the problem, wouldn't it be prudent to remove that privelidge?

Also, not all the tailgates are huge affairs. The big ones, taking multiple lots should be (IMHO) moved to designated areas closer to the stadium. That way they shouldn't be blocking the vehicles exiting Reliant.

Has any of you tailgaters who normally take up multiple spots ever had anyone check the number of parking passes you have? I don't know that they are checking, but I think they should be.

Finally.... For the tailgates that are drawing lots of people (& we all know who they are)... Reliant ought to be splitting the money with you. I don't know the numbers, But if there are 20 large tailgates total, there should be a weekly contest with 20 winners in the money. Large tailgates cost several hundreds of dollars in food alone, so if $10 a ticket, 2000 tickets don't cover the bill, they need to dip into some of that parking pass money to get at least a couple hundred to all the large, people (fans) gathering tailgates.

All the Texans need to do is scan the parking passes, as once you generate the on-line parking pass the hanging tag is deactivated, but they do not scan them, I know lots of people who basically make their single pass a double but only have one at the gate then just pull the tag off the bad one and spread out in the lot

OrangeLotPole8
10-02-2010, 09:57 AM
We have 3 extra spaces available for tailgating after all vehicles are parked. We are on the front row of the orange lot. I would say we get checked about 2-3 times per season to make sure that we have the correct amount of passes for our tailgate. We have never had a problem, but this past weekend was nuts! I know one group down from us that has 2 cars park on the white lines next to their tailgate where no car could possibly get in so they take an extra space without paying for it. It really pisses me off! I wish their number one concern would be to CHECK PARKING PASSES and HOW VEHICLES ARE PARKED!

Honoring Earl 34
10-02-2010, 10:12 AM
The folks who park outside and bring in a case of beer , start fights , aren't making the Texans one dime . The folks who pay 150 bucks for an 18 dollar parking pass and then straddle the lines so they have more room to party aren't responsible for a penny of the Texans profit . Anyone going to a game just to party in the parking lot is not who the Texans cater to and frankly if I don't have a ticket , I'm not going to the stadium because drinking at 8:00 am without a ticket means your a drunk . Drinking at 8:00 am with a ticket means your a fan . :drunk:

dbruder44
10-02-2010, 10:19 AM
The folks who park outside and bring in a case of beer , start fights , aren't making the Texans one dime . The folks who pay 150 bucks for an 18 dollar parking pass and then straddle the lines so they have more room to party aren't responsible for a penny of the Texans profit . Anyone going to a game just to party in the parking lot is not who the Texans cater to and frankly if I don't have a ticket , I'm not going to the stadium because drinking at 8:00 am without a ticket means your a drunk . Drinking at 8:00 am with a ticket means your a fan . :drunk:

Well thank god, I am not a drunk, just a fan, that is what I keep telling them at the Betty Ford Center

thunderkyss
10-02-2010, 11:01 AM
Another question. Has this been a chronic problem, or was this an isolated incident?

Does this happen for Colts & Titans games (other than the Cowboys, those are the teams I would think get the biggest draws)....

If this happened after that one game, and they put these limits & a $10 price tag on tailgating because of this one incident..

I think it's the wrong move.

Yankee_In_TX
10-02-2010, 11:56 AM
Another question. Has this been a chronic problem, or was this an isolated incident?

Does this happen for Colts & Titans games (other than the Cowboys, those are the teams I would think get the biggest draws)....

If this happened after that one game, and they put these limits & a $10 price tag on tailgating because of this one incident..

I think it's the wrong move.

IMHO (and I think the Texans agree) the parking lot crowd has been getting larger and more drunk since the Pats game of last year. What I call the 'free party' crowd. They don't come to enjoy tailgating, they come for a 'free party.'

OrangeLotPole8
10-02-2010, 12:04 PM
The point I am making here is that people use up parking that they are not entitled to. That is part of the reason we had people with parking passes with no place to park.

The folks who park outside and bring in a case of beer , start fights , aren't making the Texans one dime . The folks who pay 150 bucks for an 18 dollar parking pass and then straddle the lines so they have more room to party aren't responsible for a penny of the Texans profit . Anyone going to a game just to party in the parking lot is not who the Texans cater to and frankly if I don't have a ticket , I'm not going to the stadium because drinking at 8:00 am without a ticket means your a drunk . Drinking at 8:00 am with a ticket means your a fan . :drunk:

Yankee_In_TX
10-02-2010, 12:07 PM
The point I am making here is that people use up parking that they are not entitled to. That is part of the reason we had people with parking passes with no place to park.

What kind of issues do you see? I have heard the yellow shirts are pretty good about making sure people have enough passes for the space they are using?

Is that not actually the case?

Tailgate.Kidz
10-03-2010, 08:17 PM
The point I am making here is that people use up parking that they are not entitled to. That is part of the reason we had people with parking passes with no place to park.

this i agree with! though im not a season ticket holder, when i was walking to my tailgate party, i saw a mercedes yelling at a parking attendant cause there was no parking and was getting redirected for like 30 min she said. i know for a fact its cause people were taking up too many spaces with just one pass.

they should of directed every car coming on with the right amount of spaces they were entitle too

Norg
10-03-2010, 11:30 PM
Do other teams do this or is it just us ????


There goes our #1 tailgate team in the NFL status

seriously how do yall support this its going to be like ok now we tailgate but we sit there now all alone in a parking lot and the nearest car is like 8 feet away sounds boring to me

imatexan
10-04-2010, 01:15 AM
Do other teams do this or is it just us ????


There goes our #1 tailgate team in the NFL status

seriously how do yall support this its going to be like ok now we tailgate but we sit there now all alone in a parking lot and the nearest car is like 8 feet away sounds boring to me

Do you think that the 70,000+ fans that go to the game do not tailgate!?

Those are the main tailgaters and have been since the beginning, the tailgating scene will not change much.

Many teams have all sorts of limits on tailgating although I do not remember the specifics for each team.

Blake
10-04-2010, 09:13 AM
To all the people who are pissed off about the new policy.

I am so sorry that you wont be able to drink, cook, tailgate or party for free. The Texans dont pay money to support thousands of free riders with Port-o-potties, parking staff, security, and other amenities that paying customers should get.

I shouldnt have to wait 30 minutes to use the bathroom because 1/2 the city wants to come and sit around in the parking lot.

It shouldnt take me over an hour to exit the parking lot.

It shouldnt take me 45 minutes to enter the stadium from the parking lot.


If you want to continue doing your thang in the parking lot, consider paying the $10 and move on.

:neener:

I too am fine paying money. Hell, they can charge me $10 or $15 for a tailgating pass, and I will have no problem. As others have said, the limited availability is the problem.

Also, this doesn't solve the problem of people wanting to meet at the game to get the ticket. Sure, in many cases, you can just mail the ticket, email it, or whatever. But what if someone cancels at the last minute, you call another friend, and they decide they want to come and meet you there? If a policy were implemented that charged all those without a ticket to pay for a tailgating pass, how is it fair for the friend to have to pay the $10 or $15 when he is about to get a ticket?

There are just far too many holes and problems with this setup.

Did you really neg rep me for posting my position on this topic? We normally get along, but damn dude.

Dread-Head
10-04-2010, 10:06 AM
What's worse is that the extra ticket that I have for you on occasion, I am not the PSL owner. Therefore I can't email it to you ahead of time. I have 4 tickets total. Two that I have the PSL's for and two that I do not.

This is some Buuuuuuuuuuuuuuull ****e!



[in best fat guy from "Trading Places" voice]

"Yeah!"

dbruder44
10-04-2010, 10:53 AM
Do other teams do this or is it just us ????


There goes our #1 tailgate team in the NFL status

seriously how do yall support this its going to be like ok now we tailgate but we sit there now all alone in a parking lot and the nearest car is like 8 feet away sounds boring to me

Many teams made this change at the begining of the season, the Cardinals had some backlash but now there appears to be no issues, just a matter of people getting used to the rules.

Joe Texan
10-04-2010, 10:57 AM
The only people who this affects is non ticket holders touhgh titties

JB
10-04-2010, 10:58 AM
The only people who this affects is non ticket holders touhgh titties

Thanks Joe!



:sarcasm:

OrangeLotPole8
10-04-2010, 11:21 AM
The only people who this affects is non ticket holders touhgh titties

You are exctly right. If people want to tailgate simply pay the $10 and tailgate. Think about it, they are using the facilities and resources of the Houston Texans for free. I think they new policy will make the "game day" experience better for all season ticket holders.

HawgDawg
10-04-2010, 11:30 AM
To all the people who are pissed off about the new policy.

I am so sorry that you wont be able to drink, cook, tailgate or party for free. The Texans dont pay money to support thousands of free riders with Port-o-potties, parking staff, security, and other amenities that paying customers should get.

I shouldnt have to wait 30 minutes to use the bathroom because 1/2 the city wants to come and sit around in the parking lot.

It shouldnt take me over an hour to exit the parking lot.

It shouldnt take me 45 minutes to enter the stadium from the parking lot.


If you want to continue doing your thang in the parking lot, consider paying the $10 and move on.

:neener:

Exactly - but hard to understand for some folks....

OrangeLotPole8
10-04-2010, 12:01 PM
What kind of issues do you see? I have heard the yellow shirts are pretty good about making sure people have enough passes for the space they are using?

Is that not actually the case?

They do not check all of the people, we have been checked like 3 times in the last 2 years. I see people park over the lines to "take a spot" since another vehicle will not fit in. I see others just flat out use 4 spots when they have passes for 2 extra spaces. I saw people crossing Fannin into the orange lot with wagons filled with tents, tables and generators (along with 3 rolling coolers). The same people I saw just take them a tailgating spot without even having a vehicle. They have got to due a better job of checking passes!

OrangeLotPole8
10-04-2010, 12:02 PM
To all the people who are pissed off about the new policy.

I am so sorry that you wont be able to drink, cook, tailgate or party for free. The Texans dont pay money to support thousands of free riders with Port-o-potties, parking staff, security, and other amenities that paying customers should get.

I shouldnt have to wait 30 minutes to use the bathroom because 1/2 the city wants to come and sit around in the parking lot.

It shouldnt take me over an hour to exit the parking lot.

It shouldnt take me 45 minutes to enter the stadium from the parking lot.


If you want to continue doing your thang in the parking lot, consider paying the $10 and move on.

:neener:

VERY WELL SAID! You are repped!

SheTexan
10-04-2010, 03:01 PM
Go to Tenn where you have to tailgate behind some gas station or on some empty lot. Old Bud hasn't changed as far as I know.

Bob McNair rewarded ticket holders with the opportunity to "tailgate" and have a great pregame experience with friends and family, something we did not have in the past. Let's not mess it up by having the attitude we can do as we please, or we might find ourselves tailgating like our fine friends in Tenn! It's a simple rule, not that hard to follow. WHY is it the Texans's problem how you get your extra ticket to someone else? FIND A WAY!! Take responsibility for your own gameday experience, and don't blame the Texans for "inconveniencing" you.

I usually have two extra tickets for every game, and sometimes I don't know until Sat if they will be available for sale or give away. That's MY problem, not the Texans!! If I can't fix it, I eat the cost of the ticket. YES, we have lots of friends that show up at the tailgate looking for an extra ticket, and this will be hardest on them. I'll just start giving these folks a call on Sat night, and make arrangements to hand them a ticket through the fense on Sunday morning. It'll work out.

hobie
10-04-2010, 03:11 PM
Go to Tenn where you have to tailgate behind some gas station or on some empty lot. Old Bud hasn't changed as far as I know.

Bob McNair rewarded ticket holders with the opportunity to "tailgate" and have a great pregame experience with friends and family, something we did not have in the past. Let's not mess it up by having the attitude we can do as we please, or we might find ourselves tailgating like our fine friends in Tenn! It's a simple rule, not that hard to follow. WHY is it the Texans's problem how you get your extra ticket to someone else? FIND A WAY!! Take responsibility for your own gameday experience, and don't blame the Texans for "inconveniencing" you.
I usually have two extra tickets for every game, and sometimes I don't know until Sat if they will be available for sale or give away. That's MY problem, not the Texans!! If I can't fix it, I eat the cost of the ticket. YES, we have lots of friends that show up at the tailgate looking for an extra ticket, and this will be hardest on them. I'll just start giving these folks a call on Sat night, and make arrangements to hand them a ticket through the fense on Sunday morning. It'll work out.

Exactly... and if that is at the cost of "losing" the #1 tailgating spot in the NFL, who cares.. Maybe Bob needs to do a "golden ticket" promotion like Willy Wonka did and have 5 lucky winners per game !!

Ckw
10-04-2010, 03:31 PM
Did you really neg rep me for posting my position on this topic? We normally get along, but damn dude.

I will positive rep you the next chance I get. It has been a rough couple of days, and I have negative repped more in the last few days than I have the entire time I have been on this board. I think it has just been "that time of the year" for me...

The more I think about it and the more videos I have seen, the more ok I am with this change. Some of the parties have gotten out of control and the lots have become more and more "ghetto" and in turn, perhaps more dangerous. The change bothered me personally because the people I know and tailgate with are all perfectly good, civil people that maybe drink too much but never get out of control. But the fact is more and more people are coming in that are not the types we want hanging around the stadium.

Hope you will just ignore the negative rep. :handshake:

Yankee_In_TX
10-04-2010, 03:32 PM
They do not check all of the people, we have been checked like 3 times in the last 2 years. I see people park over the lines to "take a spot" since another vehicle will not fit in. I see others just flat out use 4 spots when they have passes for 2 extra spaces. I saw people crossing Fannin into the orange lot with wagons filled with tents, tables and generators (along with 3 rolling coolers). The same people I saw just take them a tailgating spot without even having a vehicle. They have got to due a better job of checking passes!

If thay haven't been then I agree, they need to.

hobie
10-04-2010, 04:31 PM
I will positive rep you the next chance I get. It has been a rough couple of days, and I have negative repped more in the last few days than I have the entire time I have been on this board. I think it has just been "that time of the year" for me...

The more I think about it and the more videos I have seen, the more ok I am with this change. Some of the parties have gotten out of control and the lots have become more and more "ghetto" and in turn, perhaps more dangerous. The change bothered me personally because the people I know and tailgate with are all perfectly good, civil people that maybe drink too much but never get out of control. But the fact is more and more people are coming in that are not the types we want hanging around the stadium.

Hope you will just ignore the negative rep. :handshake:

Man... it's hard to believe people really took it so bad... I mean it's just eatin,drinking and bs'in !!

Ryan
10-04-2010, 07:57 PM
I for one am ALL FOR THIS and absolutely love it. Last week was way out of control and they've got to put limits on this. If you happen to be one of the people without a ticket, tough luck, and i don't want to sound like an ******* with entitlement, but if i pay for parking and have a ticket to the game, i better have a freakin spot. There was at least over 100,000 people in that parking lot last Sunday, and it was far out of control. We arrived in the blue lot at 10 AM, and we had to physically move cones just to get a place and it was in the furthest row possible from the stadium. I've always had a disdain for some tailgaters that take up 5-10 spots on their little setup when they could easily do the same thing at home or use less space.

It's mainly the people that play loud ass music and are dancing around like idiots instead of watching the game or having common courtesy to move out of the damn way when we are leaving.

But this also has to do with the overall poor job the staff does of directing traffic and funneling people into stupid places. It's gotten worse and worse it seems every year with little to no improvement. They probably should have even opened the really expensive spots up front for the public because there was just that many people in attendance last week.

Texan_Bill
10-04-2010, 08:12 PM
Exactly - but hard to understand for some folks....

Hold up. I've been a PSL owner since day one. I also have other season tickets that I buy on a yearly basis. I'm pissed because I tend to give a ticket away every game and it's not always convenient to meet up with someone before Sunday to give them the ticket. I usually have them come meet me in Blue Crew for their ticket. Unfortunately, the ticket that I give away is not one of my PSL's, so I can't email it to that person...

So, let's not pigeon hole the situation and let's understand that there is more to it than that. I understand the spirit of the new rule, in keeping out unruly thugs, but it ain't that cut and dry!

HawgDawg
10-04-2010, 09:09 PM
Hold up. I've been a PSL owner since day one. I also have other season tickets that I buy on a yearly basis. I'm pissed because I tend to give a ticket away every game and it's not always convenient to meet up with someone before Sunday to give them the ticket. I usually have them come meet me in Blue Crew for their ticket. Unfortunately, the ticket that I give away is not one of my PSL's, so I can't email it to that person...

So, let's not pigeon hole the situation and let's understand that there is more to it than that. I understand the spirit of the new rule, in keeping out unruly thugs, but it ain't that cut and dry!

TexanBill, I think SheTexan addressed this earlier up in the thread, and think it applies here -

"WHY is it the Texans's problem how you get your extra ticket to someone else? FIND A WAY!! Take responsibility for your own gameday experience, and don't blame the Texans for "inconveniencing" you.

I usually have two extra tickets for every game, and sometimes I don't know until Sat if they will be available for sale or give away. That's MY problem, not the Texans!! If I can't fix it, I eat the cost of the ticket. YES, we have lots of friends that show up at the tailgate looking for an extra ticket, and this will be hardest on them. I'll just start giving these folks a call on Sat night, and make arrangements to hand them a ticket through the fense on Sunday morning. It'll work out. "

BobbleTexan
10-04-2010, 09:47 PM
I am with you SheTexan..you are on it. Have been looking at some other team websites and tailgating policies. All the ones I looked at indicated you can only have one space and tailgate directly behind your vehicle. None of them mentioned allowing purchase of two passes. Many also restricted to 8x10 spot only. A couple of teams had "family only" lots for non-alcohol. I would say that we have it pretty here in Houston. It is also my understanding that for example in Oakland they only have 3000 parking spots at stadium, must assume that you park in neighborhoods or whatever is available nearby. Also noted a few of the parking prices started at $25 and went up. Think we need to appreciate what we have and adjust to the new policy. I agree with Yankee that many people just come for the free party.
Go to Tenn where you have to tailgate behind some gas station or on some empty lot. Old Bud hasn't changed as far as I know.

Bob McNair rewarded ticket holders with the opportunity to "tailgate" and have a great pregame experience with friends and family, something we did not have in the past. Let's not mess it up by having the attitude we can do as we please, or we might find ourselves tailgating like our fine friends in Tenn! It's a simple rule, not that hard to follow. WHY is it the Texans's problem how you get your extra ticket to someone else? FIND A WAY!! Take responsibility for your own gameday experience, and don't blame the Texans for "inconveniencing" you.

I usually have two extra tickets for every game, and sometimes I don't know until Sat if they will be available for sale or give away. That's MY problem, not the Texans!! If I can't fix it, I eat the cost of the ticket. YES, we have lots of friends that show up at the tailgate looking for an extra ticket, and this will be hardest on them. I'll just start giving these folks a call on Sat night, and make arrangements to hand them a ticket through the fense on Sunday morning. It'll work out.

imatexan
10-04-2010, 10:01 PM
I am with you SheTexan..you are on it. Have been looking at some other team websites and tailgating policies. All the ones I looked at indicated you can only have one space and tailgate directly behind your vehicle. None of them mentioned allowing purchase of two passes. Many also restricted to 8x10 spot only. A couple of teams had "family only" lots for non-alcohol. I would say that we have it pretty here in Houston. It is also my understanding that for example in Oakland they only have 3000 parking spots at stadium, must assume that you park in neighborhoods or whatever is available nearby. Also noted a few of the parking prices started at $25 and went up. Think we need to appreciate what we have and adjust to the new policy. I agree with Yankee that many people just come for the free party.

My only argument is, since when are free parties a bad thing!?
:wesmantexanfan: hehe.

Ckw
10-04-2010, 11:11 PM
How about the Texans just use some of the millions they make off of us, the fans, and use that to help pay for more/better security guards to get in there and break up some of this nonsense and send out the riff raff...

Texan_Bill
10-05-2010, 09:21 AM
TexanBill, I think SheTexan addressed this earlier up in the thread, and think it applies here -

"WHY is it the Texans's problem how you get your extra ticket to someone else? FIND A WAY!! Take responsibility for your own gameday experience, and don't blame the Texans for "inconveniencing" you.

I usually have two extra tickets for every game, and sometimes I don't know until Sat if they will be available for sale or give away. That's MY problem, not the Texans!! If I can't fix it, I eat the cost of the ticket. YES, we have lots of friends that show up at the tailgate looking for an extra ticket, and this will be hardest on them. I'll just start giving these folks a call on Sat night, and make arrangements to hand them a ticket through the fense on Sunday morning. It'll work out. "

Find a way?? Really?? Great customer service. :ok:

It's their problem in that they want fannies in the seats... It's their problem that I am a paying customer and have to convince myself every year - WHY??. It's their problem that they knee-jerked because of one game over 8 + years.

Why is that or should it be "your problem"? Have you not had people meet you at your tailgate party to pick up the ticket? I would venture to say you probably have. The point is, is that's the norm not the exception..

Again, don't misunderstand. I get the spirit of the rule. I just think there are alternatives. Alternatives that shouldn't cost more money to those that do and want to do things the right way!

Anything to squeeze another buck out of us?? :rolleyes: Well, color me pissed off as well as unimpressed.

Blake
10-05-2010, 09:44 AM
I will positive rep you the next chance I get. It has been a rough couple of days, and I have negative repped more in the last few days than I have the entire time I have been on this board. I think it has just been "that time of the year" for me...

The more I think about it and the more videos I have seen, the more ok I am with this change. Some of the parties have gotten out of control and the lots have become more and more "ghetto" and in turn, perhaps more dangerous. The change bothered me personally because the people I know and tailgate with are all perfectly good, civil people that maybe drink too much but never get out of control. But the fact is more and more people are coming in that are not the types we want hanging around the stadium.

Hope you will just ignore the negative rep. :handshake:

I appreciate that. :handshake: And I agree that this is not fair for everyone. Especially the folks that come and respectfully have a good time rooting on the Texans. But if its between me (season ticket holder) having a good time, and tailgaters (non season ticket holders) having a good time, I will pick me everytime.

I want everyone to have fun. I really do. But the bottom line is that a little order is needed.

Texan_Bill
10-05-2010, 09:53 AM
I will positive rep you the next chance I get. It has been a rough couple of days, and I have negative repped more in the last few days than I have the entire time I have been on this board. I think it has just been "that time of the year" for me...

The more I think about it and the more videos I have seen, the more ok I am with this change. Some of the parties have gotten out of control and the lots have become more and more "ghetto" and in turn, perhaps more dangerous. The change bothered me personally because the people I know and tailgate with are all perfectly good, civil people that maybe drink too much but never get out of control. But the fact is more and more people are coming in that are not the types we want hanging around the stadium.

Hope you will just ignore the negative rep. :handshake:

You haven't negative repped me............... ever!! :foottap:

Blake
10-05-2010, 10:03 AM
Find a way?? Really?? Great customer service. :ok:

It's their problem in that they want fannies in the seats...

Maybe the Texans can up season ticket prices next year so we can get TB a personal ticket transfer liaison so he isn't so inconvenienced by this. If it means TB doesn't have to get off his ass and pass along the ticket then I am all for it.

Hell, lets get him a rickshaw while we are at it so he doesn't have to use his legs and walk to the stadium, cause you know "we want fannies in seats."

SheTexan
10-05-2010, 10:16 AM
Find a way?? Really?? Great customer service. :ok:

It's their problem in that they want fannies in the seats... It's their problem that I am a paying customer and have to convince myself every year - WHY??. It's their problem that they knee-jerked because of one game over 8 + years.

Why is that or should it be "your problem"? Have you not had people meet you at your tailgate party to pick up the ticket? I would venture to say you probably have. The point is, is that's the norm not the exception..

Again, don't misunderstand. I get the spirit of the rule. I just think there are alternatives. Alternatives that shouldn't cost more money to those that do and want to do things the right way!

Anything to squeeze another buck out of us?? :rolleyes: Well, color me pissed off as well as unimpressed.

Guess I'll have one of my fav friends pissed off at me, BUT, honey sweetie, sugarpie, etc, what does customer service have to do with this!? I completely understand your problem, and agree that we ALL have friends that we give tickets to at the tailgate, BUT, this is not all about US, the Blue Crew, who has, as far as I know, always abided by the rules. We're only a speck in the far corner of the platinum as far as this problem goes. It's not just this past game that started the change in policy either. Problems have been esculating bigtime over the past couple years. We're pretty isolated to tell the truth, and don't always hear about the crap that goes on in other lots, PLUS, most of us are on the lot before 8am and stay until they run us off, so we don't really deal with the parking issues either. I just don't think we can stick our head in the concrete and believe this is all about US, it's not! Personally, I don't think there's enough security in Houston to properly manage all the tailgates PLUS the 70,000+ fans inside the stadium. A huge headache for the Texans IMHO, one they don't HAVE to deal with, it they wanted to be like BUD!!

I don't know if you were a member of the Blue Crew when we use to meet behind Bennagins and car pool in together, but, that might be one solution, to meet somewhere before the game. If whoever you are giving a ticket to does not want to do that, then WHY is that the Texans problem and lack of customer service? That's a decision made by the customer, not the business. We'll just hash this out Sunday, and I dare you to piss off an old grandma!!:) J/K my friend. I DO understand what you are talking about.

Vinnie
10-05-2010, 10:23 AM
To all the people who are pissed off about the new policy.

I am so sorry that you wont be able to drink, cook, tailgate or party for free. The Texans dont pay money to support thousands of free riders with Port-o-potties, parking staff, security, and other amenities that paying customers should get.

I shouldnt have to wait 30 minutes to use the bathroom because 1/2 the city wants to come and sit around in the parking lot.

It shouldnt take me over an hour to exit the parking lot.

It shouldnt take me 45 minutes to enter the stadium from the parking lot.


If you want to continue doing your thang in the parking lot, consider paying the $10 and move on.

:neener:

Rep. I'd also like to add, :neener:

Stemp
10-05-2010, 01:38 PM
Actually, the Texans could elimate a lot of this by assigning spots to all the lots. Or charge an extra fee to be assigned a spot for the first 20 rows.

Mean Machine
10-05-2010, 01:43 PM
Now that is a GREAT idea!
Assign spots based on where your tailgate sets up this weekend.
Makes sense to me.

Yankee_In_TX
10-05-2010, 01:43 PM
Actually, the Texans could elimate a lot of this by assigning spots to all the lots. Or charge an extra fee to be assigned a spot for the first 20 rows.

paying more for my assiged spot >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> paying less and playing parking spot mad dash every week

Blake
10-05-2010, 02:42 PM
Actually, the Texans could elimate a lot of this by assigning spots to all the lots. Or charge an extra fee to be assigned a spot for the first 20 rows.

Now that is a GREAT idea!
Assign spots based on where your tailgate sets up this weekend.
Makes sense to me.

paying more for my assiged spot >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> paying less and playing parking spot mad dash every week

Lol What if someone parks in your spot? "Ill go get the parking staff!!!"

Parking Staff: We cant find the owner of the vehicle. You will just have to park somewhere else.

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Not to mention you would have people driving down your isle all damn day instead of for 30 minutes until the row fills up. NO THANKS!

:wadepalm:

disaacks3
10-05-2010, 02:49 PM
Lol What if someone parks in your spot? "Ill go get the parking staff!!!"

Parking Staff: We cant find the owner of the vehicle. You will just have to park somewhere else.

**************

Not to mention you would have people driving down your isle all damn day instead of for 30 minutes until the row fills up. NO THANKS!

:wadepalm: Not in the Platinum lot. If someone parks in my space, I go get a parking attendant and have it TOWED. That's part of those extra $$ I pay for an assigned space.

Blake
10-05-2010, 03:07 PM
Not in the Platinum lot. If someone parks in my space, I go get a parking attendant and have it TOWED. That's part of those extra $$ I pay for an assigned space.

How much is a plat lot parking pass?

disaacks3
10-05-2010, 03:09 PM
How much is a plat lot parking pass?

$45 /game (Yes, it's highway robbery)

Blake
10-05-2010, 03:12 PM
$45 /game (Yes, it's highway robbery)

Thats a nice feature to be able to have someone moved, I just cant imagine alot of people wanting to pay that kinda money for assigned parking. Plus not all lots are as close as the plat.

HawgDawg
10-05-2010, 03:16 PM
Why is that or should it be "your problem"? Have you not had people meet you at your tailgate party to pick up the ticket? I would venture to say you probably have. The point is, is that's the norm not the exception..


TB, actually we do a lot. I have them meet us at the CVS parking lot by a certain time, and if they aren't there, then they have to get their tickets (parking and game) handed through the fence. It is a little inconvenience for me, but I don't mind, and if they are late the first time, their ain't no second time!!

Also, I hear ya - I don't agree with the tailgate ticket approach either, and think it could have been handled differently. Something simple like must have a parking pass - after all, this is what this is all about. That and enforcing the rules already in place, and if someone causes problems, revoke the owner's privileges. And to handle the folks walking in, they must have a game ticket. Seems simple enough right?

Stemp
10-05-2010, 04:07 PM
Thats a nice feature to be able to have someone moved, I just cant imagine alot of people wanting to pay that kinda money for assigned parking. Plus not all lots are as close as the plat.

You don't have to charge as much as the platinum lot, but I imagine many of the tailgaters who take up too many spots get there early to do so. So if you relegate them to the back of the lot or force them to buy enough passes for the space they are taking, it would help. The Platinum lot is sold out and has a huge waiting list, so I'm betting there are a lot of people who would like to have the exact same spot every week.

Also, in the Platinum lot, your space is reserved till 30 minutes before kickoff. If you don't get there in time, you just have to find an open spot.

Yankee_In_TX
10-05-2010, 04:09 PM
$45 /game (Yes, it's highway robbery)

I think I say every week how much it is worth it. Especially when we get there at 7:05 (5 minutes after Platinum gates open) and know our space is safe.

disaacks3
10-05-2010, 04:43 PM
I think I say every week how much it is worth it. Especially when we get there at 7:05 (5 minutes after Platinum gates open) and know our space is safe. It's worth the no-hassle of "trying to find a spot" and not having to haul the cooler, chairs, etc. more than 50 feet.

My original parking was in Yellow - The hike to the (then) Blue lot for tailgating sucked hard...not to mention the haul back.

TxDavid
10-05-2010, 04:47 PM
I think I say every week how much it is worth it. Especially when we get there at 7:05 (5 minutes after Platinum gates open) and know our space is safe.

It was definitely worth it for the Cowboys game. I watched a bus take 30 minutes to round the corner at Kirby & Westchase.

Oh - and the extra hour of tailgating is a bonus too.

SheTexan
10-05-2010, 05:44 PM
$45 /game (Yes, it's highway robbery)

Worth every penny!!! Every Spring I grip about it, every gameday I thank the football gawds I paid up. I've had the same parking spot since preseason 2002. Though in the early years I had to fight biker babe for it on a couple of occassions!:)

It's nice not to have to wait in long lines, not worry about the yellow shirts telling me what to do, and just having the peace of mind knowing I don't have to worry about finding a parking space. I think blue is $35 anyway, so not that much diff IMHO for the convenience. PLUS, the atmosphere has improved tremendously over the past couple of years. Platinum is rocking more and more each year as more fans have started to tailgate. Yes,, it's a little pricey, but, well worth it. JMO!

Vinnie
10-06-2010, 12:28 PM
How hard is it to upgrade to Platinum? We're in blue. Is there a long waiting list?

Yankee_In_TX
10-06-2010, 12:36 PM
How hard is it to upgrade to Platinum? We're in blue. Is there a long waiting list?

Forget the waiting list. Call your ticket rep once a month, letting them know how excited you would be for a Platinum pass. There are never any 'available' but if you are truly friendly to your ticket rep when some come available they'll call you.

rush2112mn
10-06-2010, 01:36 PM
I think there has to be a limit.
I think if you walk into the Tailgate area....and you do not have a ticket to the game.....you should pay a fee to come into the tailgate area.

SheTexan
10-06-2010, 03:55 PM
Worth every penny!!! Every Spring I grip about it, every gameday I thank the football gawds I paid up. I've had the same parking spot since preseason 2002. Though in the early years I had to fight biker babe for it on a couple of occassions!:)

It's nice not to have to wait in long lines, not worry about the yellow shirts telling me what to do, and just having the peace of mind knowing I don't have to worry about finding a parking space. I think blue is $35 anyway, so not that much diff IMHO for the convenience. PLUS, the atmosphere has improved tremendously over the past couple of years. Platinum is rocking more and more each year as more fans have started to tailgate. Yes,, it's a little pricey, but, well worth it. JMO!

I might be wrong about the Blue lot cost. I was told by one friend the cost is 35 and by another the is 25. regardless, I'm glad I stayed in Platinum.

Joe Texan
10-06-2010, 04:45 PM
I pick up Billy every game abd we go in. JB you can meet me at fiesta and get in my truck problem solved.

Hervoyel
10-06-2010, 08:29 PM
I don't have tickets and don't tailgate which is why I chose "Don't have tickets or Tailgate" in the poll. It's also probably why I don't understand the fuss. Honestly, I don't think too many people envisioned this "problem" when the Texans brought tailgating to town. It would never occur to me to even go to Reliant Stadium on gameday without a ticket to the game. That thousands of people were doing it every home game never occurred to me either. I honestly thought all those people had tickets.

The parking lots are there so people going to the game can park their cars. The county and team allow the people parking there to have a party in the parking lot which is entirely cool. The last franchise was like "park, get in, watch the game, and don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out" so this is IMO obviously a step up.

I just don't get it. If you're not a customer (meaning you aren't buying a ticket to watch the game) then really who invited you to have a party in the parking lot? It's "Reliant Park" but it isn't a county or city park you know.

Requiring a ticket just makes sense.

JB
10-06-2010, 09:20 PM
Herv, that made way too much sense. I don't think the problem is in the policy being instituted, it's the timing and the method. It's surprising to me also that so many people would go hang out in a hot parking lot and not be able to watch the game. I would rather go to the beach, or stay at home.

But I don't think that it is being handled in the right way. This should have been addressed in the offseason.

Joe Texan
10-06-2010, 09:47 PM
JB they cannot handle what they did not know, they are reporting that 80000 people without a ticket were in the parking lot after the cowpuke game. It looked like a war zone with people walking five wide down the feeder to 610. They did not expect the low life Texan fans selling out to the cowboys and then selling thier parking seperate. The fans complained and the Texans acted plain and simple. No reason to get mad at the hand that is trying to help.

imatexan
10-06-2010, 11:21 PM
Any one else go to the game @Dallas in 2006?

I did and I remember there being tons of Texans fans, that was before we started having .500+ seasons as well.

Especially when it came to tailgating... even at Dallas, the Texans fans had better tailgate set ups.

Double Barrel
10-07-2010, 09:41 AM
I don't have tickets and don't tailgate which is why I chose "Don't have tickets or Tailgate" in the poll. It's also probably why I don't understand the fuss. Honestly, I don't think too many people envisioned this "problem" when the Texans brought tailgating to town. It would never occur to me to even go to Reliant Stadium on gameday without a ticket to the game. That thousands of people were doing it every home game never occurred to me either. I honestly thought all those people had tickets.

The parking lots are there so people going to the game can park their cars. The county and team allow the people parking there to have a party in the parking lot which is entirely cool. The last franchise was like "park, get in, watch the game, and don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out" so this is IMO obviously a step up.

I just don't get it. If you're not a customer (meaning you aren't buying a ticket to watch the game) then really who invited you to have a party in the parking lot? It's "Reliant Park" but it isn't a county or city park you know.

Requiring a ticket just makes sense.

I feel the same way, Herv. While I know a few people who do tailgate and watch the game on tv in the parking lot, I have never felt compelled to take them up on their invites to come with them. If I'm going to watch the game on tv, I'd just as soon do it on my own with all the creature comforts that home provides.

Heck, we've even set up our tailgate gear in the front yard, complete with canopy and various Texans flags. It was just like tailgating, with the obvious improvement of working bathrooms and the like.

Tailgating has always been fun, but it was always a perk of going to the game. The main point was always going to the game, never the tailgating itself.

Battle Red Flash
10-08-2010, 01:33 PM
LOVE IT. I have been paying for season tickets since day one. Dont get me wrong, I am all about the tailgate, going all out, etc. But it has just gone too far. When is it enough people? I am sorry, getting in and out has become way too much of a hassle.... not to mention I have noticed an extra dose of riff raf have been flooding the lot areas more and more.

Yes! Ditto.

Yankee_In_TX
10-09-2010, 12:03 PM
not to mention I have noticed an extra dose of riff raf have been flooding the lot areas more and more.

Dude, you do know that Texan Bill posts on here?