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CloakNNNdagger
09-24-2010, 10:50 AM
This is a remarkably insightful in-depth piece (http://cowboysblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2010/09/bob-sturm-why-cowboys-will-los.html)by a Cowboys writer (SportsDayDFW sports).

Here is a statistic that you may not be aware of from this year's Football Outsiders Almanac: Do not big blitz Matt Schaub: The Texans' quarterback averaged a league-best 10.7 yards per pass against big blitzes, which may be why only Indianapolis and Tennessee faced fewer big blitzes than Houston did.

JB
09-24-2010, 11:03 AM
Great Read CnD Thanks!


MSR

TexansBlood
09-24-2010, 11:19 AM
If they blitz us they will pay!

Goatcheese
09-24-2010, 11:27 AM
I hope they don't blitz us with Brown out. I'd like for Schaub to be healthy 5 weeks from now.

badboy
09-24-2010, 11:28 AM
If they blitz us they will pay!They will blitz and be fools if they did not. Both teams need to find out early of Butler can keep heat off Schaub. As Duane Brown knows it only takes one play to make you look real bad. The difference is this season we have a power back for Schaub to dump to. Foster can also catch. Look for TEs and quick passes to relieve the pressure. It will be up to Matt to see he doesn't get hit often. Hope he remembers to throw it away rather than eat it and maybe suffer a TO or being knocked from game. I really hope we do not have to find out how Orslovksy & Leinart are progressing.

infantrycak
09-24-2010, 11:33 AM
Schaub is very good against the blitz but credit also needs to go to the OL and particularly the RBs as well. This shows why Kubiak has such an emphasis on RBs blocking well.

gtexan02
09-24-2010, 11:36 AM
Interesting comments frm an ESPN article I read:

Stop Me Before I Blitz Again! Greg Olson of the Chicago Bears caught a 39-yard touchdown pass against a Dallas seven-man blitz; Steve Smith of the Panthers caught a 37-yard touchdown pass against a Bucs six blitz. But the Armageddon of the blitz came in the Houston at Washington collision.

On opening day, Redskins defensive coordinator Jim Haslett called a dozen safety blitzes against Dallas, a high number, and the Skins escaped with a one-point victory on the final snap. On Sunday, Washington held a comfortable 17-point lead over the visiting Texans late in the third quarter. Play straight defense, and victory is likely. Instead, Haslett called 19 blitzes on the 40 remaining Houston snaps; Washington lost in overtime. Houston ran 40 plays from the late third quarter on? That's the sort of thing that happens against a blitz-wacky defense. Blitz, blitz, blitz resulted in 526 yards of offense, 29 first downs and 30 points allowed.

If you were wondering why NFL teams don't blitz constantly -- listening to sportsyak, you'd think the blitz is a magic formula for instant success -- the Washington collapse against Houston is your answer.

The low point came with the Redskins leading 27-20, the Moo Cows facing fourth-and-10 on the Washington 34 just before regulation's two-minute warning. Washington did not need a sack or turnover, just an incompletion. The Skins blitzed, leaving Andre Johnson -- among the league's best players -- single-covered in the end zone by safety Reed Doughty. Johnson outleaped Doughty for the touchdown that caused overtime, a great catch. Three Skins defensive backs from the nickel package were standing in the center of the field covering no one, as the opposition's best player was single-covered in the end zone. This is the sort of thing that happens when a team blitzes too much.

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=easterbrook/100921_tuesday_morning_quarterback&sportCat=nfl

BigBull17
09-24-2010, 11:38 AM
Schaub is very good against the blitz but credit also needs to go to the OL and particularly the RBs as well. This shows why Kubiak has such an emphasis on RBs blocking well.

Yep, RB blocking is very important. I would honestly put Leech back there nest to Schaub in the gun. Dare you to approach the pepsi machine (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7U7GyRF_Xo).

Goldensilence
09-24-2010, 11:59 AM
Washington still got the Schaub 5 times. For the life of me the OL couldn't seem to figure out Landry on the safety blitz.

Good news is that it took bringing in a safety to get to him.

Also saw Schaub take some hits and get back up, note to rest of league, this isn't the ol "glass" Matt we saw a few seasons ago. This guy is tough.

Corrosion
09-24-2010, 12:41 PM
Interesting comments frm an ESPN article I read:

On Sunday, Washington held a comfortable 17-point lead over the visiting Texans late in the third quarter. Play straight defense, and victory is likely. Instead, Haslett called 19 blitzes on the 40 remaining Houston snaps; Washington lost in overtime. Houston ran 40 plays from the late third quarter on? That's the sort of thing that happens against a blitz-wacky defense. Blitz, blitz, blitz resulted in 526 yards of offense, 29 first downs and 30 points allowed.



http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=easterbrook/100921_tuesday_morning_quarterback&sportCat=nfl

The Skins defensive scheme in the second half was as bad as their first half offensive scheme was good .... I get the idea that it was overcompensation for their inability to run the ball and eat up clock.

BigBull17
09-24-2010, 12:43 PM
Washington still got the Schaub 5 times. For the life of me the OL couldn't seem to figure out Landry on the safety blitz.

Good news is that it took bringing in a safety to get to him.

Also saw Schaub take some hits and get back up, note to rest of league, this isn't the ol "glass" Matt we saw a few seasons ago. This guy is tough.

We completely underused the screen game. Slaton should have gotten some touches.

Number19
09-24-2010, 01:26 PM
This is a remarkably insightful in-depth piece (http://cowboysblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2010/09/bob-sturm-why-cowboys-will-los.html)by a Cowboys writer (SportsDayDFW sports).I agree - this is one of the best analysis I have ever read.

Something I have noticed by the TV commentators in the two previous games - and again here by writer Bob Sturm - is the recognition being given to Vonta Leach :

...Here is the name I want you to know: #44 Vonta Leach. You don't need to know many Fullbacks in the NFL anymore (many teams don't have any) but Leach is awesome in the way he is utilized in their running attack. He takes on your LB at the point of attack and seldom seems to lose...

I don't think there is any doubt that he is building a national reputation.

MarioWrecksIt
09-24-2010, 01:32 PM
I don't think there is any doubt that he is building a national reputation.

Ya, #### the Terminator!!

drs23
09-24-2010, 01:36 PM
This is a remarkably insightful in-depth piece (http://cowboysblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2010/09/bob-sturm-why-cowboys-will-los.html)by a Cowboys writer (SportsDayDFW sports).

Thanks CnD for the read. Really enjoyed it. Couple of great reads in the hyper-links as well.

I MSR also

bo orlando
09-24-2010, 01:49 PM
This is a remarkably insightful in-depth piece (http://cowboysblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2010/09/bob-sturm-why-cowboys-will-los.html)by a Cowboys writer (SportsDayDFW sports).


these stats about blitzing are a bit misleading. two of the major goals of blitzing are to force the quarterback and o-line into mistakes and turnovers, and to wear down the quarterback and o-line over the course of the game. i'm sure there's not a d-coordinator in the league who wouldn't trade giving up a few plays for one big interception or sack/fumble, or knocking the opposing quarterback out of the game altogether. obviousl, you have to decide what a favorable trade-off would be for you, meaning how big the plays you're allowing compared to the rewards you're getting, but to just cite an increase in yards-per-play on certain blitzes kind-of misses the point.

Shaft75
09-24-2010, 02:14 PM
these stats about blitzing are a bit misleading. two of the major goals of blitzing are to force the quarterback and o-line into mistakes and turnovers, and to wear down the quarterback and o-line over the course of the game. i'm sure there's not a d-coordinator in the league who wouldn't trade giving up a few plays for one big interception or sack/fumble, or knocking the opposing quarterback out of the game altogether. obviousl, you have to decide what a favorable trade-off would be for you, meaning how big the plays you're allowing compared to the rewards you're getting, but to just cite an increase in yards-per-play on certain blitzes kind-of misses the point.

I think they're just explaining how it may be foolish to blitz the Texans offense. And that we came back on their blitz happy asses. Yes, you're right about maybe giving up big plays, but timing is everything. Limit your blitzes to the right time and it could win you a game.

Blitzing your guys 50% in the second half is probably a little too much.

JWarren14
09-24-2010, 02:30 PM
Is this the guy that covers the cowboys for the Dallas Morning News, or is it just a fan blogger who writes for the paper.

If it's the guy who actually covers the cowboys then Big John needs to take some notes.

Well written.

infantrycak
09-24-2010, 03:03 PM
these stats about blitzing are a bit misleading. two of the major goals of blitzing are to force the quarterback and o-line into mistakes and turnovers, and to wear down the quarterback and o-line over the course of the game. i'm sure there's not a d-coordinator in the league who wouldn't trade giving up a few plays for one big interception or sack/fumble, or knocking the opposing quarterback out of the game altogether. obviousl, you have to decide what a favorable trade-off would be for you, meaning how big the plays you're allowing compared to the rewards you're getting, but to just cite an increase in yards-per-play on certain blitzes kind-of misses the point.

Really they are not misleading nor do they miss the point. The author is not reflecting generally on blitzing he is specifically addressing an individual QB's performance. All QB's face those situations - Schaub and Manning are very good at overcoming them and making the D pay for the gamble.

CloakNNNdagger
09-24-2010, 03:53 PM
Is this the guy that covers the cowboys for the Dallas Morning News, or is it just a fan blogger who writes for the paper.

If it's the guy who actually covers the cowboys then Big John needs to take some notes.

Well written.


Bob Sturm is host of BaD Radio on The Ticket 1310 AM Mondays through Fridays at 12-3 p.m. He also hosts The Ticket's Cowboys pregame show.

papashango
09-24-2010, 03:57 PM
Bob Sturm is host of BaD Radio on The Ticket 1310 AM Mondays through Fridays at 12-3 p.m. He also hosts The Ticket's Cowboys pregame show.

Yea Bob is a Packer fan. Not really a homer Packer fan. He's a realist. So in regards to the Cowboys you won't really see or hear him speak as a fan or as a hater. Just simply a spectator which makes for a good read IMO.

bo orlando
09-24-2010, 05:12 PM
Really they are not misleading nor do they miss the point. The author is not reflecting generally on blitzing he is specifically addressing an individual QB's performance. All QB's face those situations - Schaub and Manning are very good at overcoming them and making the D pay for the gamble.


they imply that it's foolish to blitz schaub because he'll burn you and specifically that the skins lost the game in part because of their blitzing. yet this ignores that schaub threw his interception as a result of the blitz, landry frequently disrupted the timing of our plays (and proved himself to have superb pass rushing skills), and schaub obviously has a history of fragility that is well-worth taking a chance on. and the colts last two losses are a big result of putting pressure on him, so citing statistics about a quarterback's yards-per-play against a blitz doesn't tell all the story.

The Pencil Neck
09-24-2010, 05:59 PM
they imply that it's foolish to blitz schaub because he'll burn you and specifically that the skins lost the game in part because of their blitzing. yet this ignores that schaub threw his interception as a result of the blitz, landry frequently disrupted the timing of our plays (and proved himself to have superb pass rushing skills), and schaub obviously has a history of fragility that is well-worth taking a chance on. and the colts last two losses are a big result of putting pressure on him, so citing statistics about a quarterback's yards-per-play against a blitz doesn't tell all the story.

It's not about yards per play but QB rating, which takes the interceptions and touchdowns as well as the yards and completion percentage into account. And Schaub has, over the course of his time with the Texans, always had a QB Rating that's over 100 against the blitz. IF he gets the ball out against the blitz, it's usually a favorable Texans result.

CloakNNNdagger
09-24-2010, 06:06 PM
It's not about yards per play but QB rating, which takes the interceptions and touchdowns as well as the yards and completion percentage into account. And Schaub has, over the course of his time with the Texans, always had a QB Rating that's over 100 against the blitz. IF he gets the ball out against the blitz, it's usually a favorable Texans result.

This is a principle that Garrett and Phillips will ignore this Sunday............adding to their string of poor decisions and game planning. :evil:

bo orlando
09-24-2010, 06:18 PM
It's not about yards per play but QB rating, which takes the interceptions and touchdowns as well as the yards and completion percentage into account. And Schaub has, over the course of his time with the Texans, always had a QB Rating that's over 100 against the blitz. IF he gets the ball out against the blitz, it's usually a favorable Texans result.

again, it's not necessarily about numbers. it's the d-coordinator taking a gamble that one or two big defensive plays will happen over the course of the game, like a pick-six or sack-fumble. i'm sure that haslett, like any other d-coordinator, is aware of schaub's success against the blitz (as well as the texans success on screens), but is also aware of schaub's penchant for stupid interceptions, his injury history, and how much the texan offense is dependent upon proper timing. i'm not saying schaub's not good against the blitz, i'm just saying that it's not as easily dismissible a strategy as you're making it sound.

The Pencil Neck
09-24-2010, 09:19 PM
again, it's not necessarily about numbers. it's the d-coordinator taking a gamble that one or two big defensive plays will happen over the course of the game, like a pick-six or sack-fumble. i'm sure that haslett, like any other d-coordinator, is aware of schaub's success against the blitz (as well as the texans success on screens), but is also aware of schaub's penchant for stupid interceptions, his injury history, and how much the texan offense is dependent upon proper timing. i'm not saying schaub's not good against the blitz, i'm just saying that it's not as easily dismissible a strategy as you're making it sound.

I wasn't making it sound like a stupid strategy.

It's a tool in the toolbox. And Wade Phillips' defenses are known for their reliance on the blitz and he's got a history of creating some damn good defenses. The best defenses in the NFL are normally defenses that can blitz and blitz well.

But there are some QBs that you've got to be very careful about how you blitz them. Peyton and Schaub are QBs that you've got to be careful with blitzing because they can turn it around on you and burn you.

Schaub's proven that he's a warrior who'll take the shot to get the ball out. He's not as fragile as lots of guys like to say he is. And those numbers that you dismiss as just numbers show that if you're going to blitz, there's a better possibility of you getting burned than there is of you consistently winning that bet.

BUT... it's just like Peyton. You've got to get pressure. You don't have any choice. You can't let Schaub get comfy in the pocket or he'll tear you up that way, too. So if you can't get pressure with your down linemen, you've got to blitz.

Texan_Bill
09-24-2010, 09:53 PM
I wasn't making it sound like a stupid strategy.

It's a tool in the toolbox. And Wade Phillips' defenses are known for their reliance on the blitz and he's got a history of creating some damn good defenses. The best defenses in the NFL are normally defenses that can blitz and blitz well.

But there are some QBs that you've got to be very careful about how you blitz them. Peyton and Schaub are QBs that you've got to be careful with blitzing because they can turn it around on you and burn you.

Schaub's proven that he's a warrior who'll take the shot to get the ball out. He's not as fragile as lots of guys like to say he is. And those numbers that you dismiss as just numbers show that if you're going to blitz, there's a better possibility of you getting burned than there is of you consistently winning that bet.

BUT... it's just like Peyton. You've got to get pressure. You don't have any choice. You can't let Schaub get comfy in the pocket or he'll tear you up that way, too. So if you can't get pressure with your down linemen, you've got to blitz.

I support this!!!