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Section516
09-17-2010, 11:08 AM
Value that is.. And maybe the best start ever

Players gripe about their contracts all the time. But after Sunday, it's hard to imagine anyone has a better case than Texans running back Arian Foster, who has rushed for 350 yards and five touchdowns in his first two NFL starts. Foster is scheduled to make $310,000 this season and $395,000 next season in what might be the best value contract in all of sports. Foster's fine fullback, Vonta Leach, earns considerably more from the four-year, $8 million contract he signed in 2007. Should Foster rush for 102 yards against Washington on Sunday, he would break Jonathan Stewart's record for most rushing yards in a player's first three NFL starts since the AFL-NFL merger in 1970. It's often pointed out when top draft picks are overpaid; every now and then, there is an undrafted free agent who is underpaid.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?columnist=schefter_adam&page=10spot/10week02

b0ng
09-17-2010, 11:27 AM
That is literally the most retarded "article" i have read.

"Yes this man who had a great first game as the RB1 for a team is now underpaid"

Allstar
09-17-2010, 11:36 AM
Didn't he start the Miami game last year?

Showtime100
09-17-2010, 11:42 AM
Didn't he start the Miami game last year?

I can't remember if he started but he was definitely running in the game..lol.

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/F/FostAr00/gamelog/

Hookem Horns
09-17-2010, 11:44 AM
This Arian Foster stuff is going a little too far. Let's let the guy at least have a half season under his belt as a starter before we start inducting him into the Hall of Fame. In that I am speaking about the national media also.

El Tejano
09-17-2010, 11:51 AM
This Arian Foster stuff is going a little too far. Let's let the guy at least have a half season under his belt as a starter before we start inducting him into the Hall of Fame. In that I am speaking about the national media also.

I agree. Good thing is it doesn't seem Foster is letting the media do this to him.

My first thought too was that he started that Miami game and he did. He was part of that 1st half massacre we were putting on Miami.

houstonspartan
09-17-2010, 11:58 AM
This Arian Foster stuff is going a little too far. Let's let the guy at least have a half season under his belt as a starter before we start inducting him into the Hall of Fame. In that I am speaking about the national media also.

Yeah. If he has a great season, I'm sure we will tear up his contract and open up the vault for him. But, let's wait and see how this goes.

CloakNNNdagger
09-17-2010, 12:04 PM
Yeah. If he has a great season, I'm sure we will tear up his contract and open up the fault for him. But, let's wait and see how this goes.

Oh No!! There goes another ankle!!!!!!!!!:foottap:

El Tejano
09-17-2010, 12:05 PM
Oh No!! There goes another ankle!!!!!!!!!:foottap:

It will be your fault man, sssshhhh!!!!

houstonspartan
09-17-2010, 12:16 PM
Oh No!! There goes another ankle!!!!!!!!!:foottap:

Whups. I meant vault. Fixed.

thunderkyss
09-17-2010, 12:19 PM
Value that is.. And maybe the best start ever

Players gripe about their contracts all the time. But after Sunday, it's hard to imagine anyone has a better case than Texans running back Arian Foster, who has rushed for 350 yards and five touchdowns in his first two NFL starts. Foster is scheduled to make $310,000 this season and $395,000 next season in what might be the best value contract in all of sports. Foster's fine fullback, Vonta Leach, earns considerably more from the four-year, $8 million contract he signed in 2007. Should Foster rush for 102 yards against Washington on Sunday, he would break Jonathan Stewart's record for most rushing yards in a player's first three NFL starts since the AFL-NFL merger in 1970. It's often pointed out when top draft picks are overpaid; every now and then, there is an undrafted free agent who is underpaid.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?columnist=schefter_adam&page=10spot/10week02

1) Thanks to this article, I'll be hoping Arian rushes for 102 yards in Sunday's game. Prior to this, I was just hoping for another good game. Now, I'm hoping he breaks another record.

2) I don't think this is trying to put him in the HOF. I think it's nice, that someone is looking at it, from the POV that this article does. We forget that not all these athletes are raking in millions. It's nice to see a guy earn a living in today's NFL.

3) :fans:

Thorn
09-17-2010, 12:31 PM
This Arian Foster stuff is going a little too far. Let's let the guy at least have a half season under his belt as a starter before we start inducting him into the Hall of Fame. In that I am speaking about the national media also.

LOL. You mean we can't vote him into the HOF yet?

I agree with you. Let's see him do this for a few more games. Good thing Arian has got a brain to go with his brawn, I'd hate to think of him getting the "big head" and demanding more money right off the bat.

I think he'll have a good season and the Texans will reward him with a nice contract in the off season. Depending on the lock-out that is.

Texan_Bill
09-17-2010, 12:31 PM
Didn't he start the Miami game last year?

Nope. I believe Moats started the game, but Foster did handle most of the load with 19 attempts.

The Pencil Neck
09-17-2010, 01:07 PM
Nope. I believe Moats started the game, but Foster did handle most of the load with 19 attempts.

I just pulled up the game and on the first play, Moats is in the backfield.

badboy
09-17-2010, 02:40 PM
Call me names if you will but I am happy, happy, happy to see a great running game especially from a UDFA. No I am not nominating him for HOF, but can't see any reason he should devolve to an average back either. Especially if the Oline continues as it did against the Colts. I am also hoping Slaton gets some yards and builds his confidence. I think holding on to the ball is almost more important for him than big yards. Would be good to have these two settled in at end of season and then know your 2nd round guy Tate (Thunder and Lightning in one body) will return for next season.

Thorn
09-17-2010, 02:59 PM
Call me names if you will but I am happy, happy, happy to see a great running game especially from a UDFA. No I am not nominating him for HOF, but can't see any reason he should devolve to an average back either. Especially if the Oline continues as it did against the Colts. I am also hoping Slaton gets some yards and builds his confidence. I think holding on to the ball is almost more important for him than big yards. Would be good to have these two settled in at end of season and then know your 2nd round guy Tate (Thunder and Lightning in one body) will return for next season.

Well, quite honestly, if Foster really is The Real Deal, and Slaton returns to his rookie year greatness, and Tate is everything he is supposed to be, I can almost assure you one of them will get traded for a nice draft pick. I can't see keeping three starting calibar RBs on a team that can pass so well.

Maybe I'm wrong, but I just don't see keeping all three IF Foster tears up the NFL and Slaton becomes his old self again.

GuerillaBlack
09-17-2010, 03:04 PM
Well, quite honestly, if Foster really is The Real Deal, and Slaton returns to his rookie year greatness, and Tate is everything he is supposed to be, I can almost assure you one of them will get traded for a nice draft pick. I can't see keeping three starting calibar RBs on a team that can pass so well.

Maybe I'm wrong, but I just don't see keeping all three IF Foster tears up the NFL and Slaton becomes his old self again.

Slaton would be the one most likely traded, I would think.

Maddict5
09-17-2010, 03:21 PM
But after Sunday, it's hard to imagine anyone has a better case than Texans running back Arian Foster, who has rushed for 350 yards and five touchdowns in his first two NFL starts. Foster is scheduled to make $310,000 this season and $395,000 next season in what might be the best value contract in all of sports.

i thought we gave him a two yr deal starting off?? when did we extend it to a 3 yr deal>

badboy
09-17-2010, 04:20 PM
i thought we gave him a two yr deal starting off?? when did we extend it to a 3 yr deal>Correct. I think the $395 is this season and he is RFA next season. A lot out there but little on his contract. He was an undrafted free agent and on an injury like Nolan first season but did play end of last year.
http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.aspx?sport=nfl&id=5469

Texecutioner
09-17-2010, 04:32 PM
That is literally the most retarded "article" i have read.

"Yes this man who had a great first game as the RB1 for a team is now underpaid"

Agreed. I saw this earlier. Really stupid article.


Let's let Foster keep playing well before handing him the rushing title already. Lord knows we don't need all of this extra media attention going to his head this early or the Texans team for that matter. They need to keep their heads down and keep working.

houstonspartan
09-17-2010, 04:47 PM
Agreed. I saw this earlier. Really stupid article.


Let's let Foster keep playing well before handing him the rushing title already. Lord knows we don't need all of this extra media attention going to his head this early or the Texans team for that matter. They need to keep their heads down and keep working.

Agree. Focus, focus, focus.

Let's not turn into the Saints, who are still partying from the Super Bowl.

The Pencil Neck
09-17-2010, 11:32 PM
I was just kinda poking around and I came up with this:

ProFootball Reference: Rushing Performances > 230 yards (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/play-index/pgl_finder.cgi?request=1&match=game&year_min=1960&year_max=2010&season_start=1&season_end=-1&age_min=0&age_max=99&league_id=&team_id=&opp_id=&game_type=R&game_num_min=0&game_num_max=99&week_num_min=0&week_num_max=99&game_day_of_week=&game_location=&game_result=&is_active=&is_hof=&c1stat=rush_yds&c1comp=gt&c1val=230&c2stat=&c2comp=gt&c2val=&c3stat=&c3comp=gt&c3val=&c4stat=&c4comp=gt&c4val=&order_by=pass_td)

In the entire history of the NFL, there have only been 20 performances where a running back has rushed for more yards than Arian put up in that game.

Some interesting tidbits:

Only O.J. Simpson put up more yards (273 yards and 2 TDs) and lost.

Corey Dillon, O.J. Simpson, and Jim Brown appear twice on the list. Some guys you'd expect to be on there more only appear once (Walter Payton, Barry Sanders, Emmitt Smith.)

Cookie Gilchrist had a MONSTER day with 243 yards and 5 TD's back in '63.

The oldest guy on the list is Tiki Barber who's the only guy to rush for that many yards over the age of 30.

And in 3 of those games (2 Jim Browns and 1 O.J. Simpson), the running also attempted a HB Pass. :kitten:

EDIT: I should mention that this is only since 1960 and only in Regular Season games.

TexansForTheW
09-18-2010, 12:39 AM
I hope he rushes for over 150 this weekend.

thunderkyss
09-18-2010, 09:16 AM
I hope he rushes for over 150 this weekend.

Three things I want to see this week, that will ease my mind, a little.

1) I want to see that OL toss the skins around, just to show that it was no fluke. Arian Foster to continue to make the right cuts, and good gains.

2) I want to see Matt find the open receivers, and make good throws. I'd like to see those drops go away as well. What we saw last week, was nothing like the passing game we saw last year, where the ball was always ahead of the receiver, and the receiver always plucked it out of the air with their hands. I don't remember any straight-up drops last season.

3) I want to see if our front four can continue to get pressure. There were a lot of new faces on Washington's OL last week, & McNabb isn't the machine Peyton is, we should see total domination paying off with turnovers.