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TimeKiller
08-29-2010, 10:44 AM
-The pass rush looking like a pass rush. Fast, mean, creative, destructive and successful. Oh and Paging Mr. Okoye, can I get a friggin sack on 3rd down?!?! How awesome was that? Very, in case you didn't know.

-Kareem Jackson, despite the flailing/diving/Ole thing he did was very sticky in coverage and had a heads up INT with a great return. Gotta say so far I'm pretty sold on his ability and the secondary's ability in general. It's not a blackhole back there anymore and it's really helping this D to look intimidating.

-Cowboys were absolutely gifted a few penalties that really, really had an effect on field position and ultimately the game....but in years past this type of occurence would take the life right outta the team. Last night it just seemed like they just didn't care and took care of bidniz on the next play. Kudos to the boys for level headed aggression.

-Tony Romo sucks.

-Arian Foster does not. Fosty's got no skill that sets him apart from anyone, save will power. He wills his way into yards, first downs, jukes guys completely out...just a player.

-The OL and Foster looked decent. That's all I'll ask for if the results are similar to what we saw last night.

-Jacoby Jones said GEEEEEEEEEEERONIMOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

-Our special teams is full of freak level athletes. McCain, Molden, Henry, Casey, Bentley, Barber.....just stock full of dudes who even if they aren't the greatest football players...they LOOK like football players you know? That's a big bad crew if you ask me.

-Cowboys fans are idiots. Whiny idiots.

Lucky
08-29-2010, 11:03 AM
Fosty's got no skill that sets him apart from anyone, save will power. He wills his way into yards, first downs, jukes guys completely out...just a player.

I think Foster's best skills are vision and instinct. Like a QB, a RB can see the field, or he can't. Foster can. I'd just like to see him hold the ball closer to his body.

Regarding our corners (Jackson/Quin/McCain), I think they will be better later in the year than they are now. There will be growing pains. There will be penalties. But, I think there will be some big defensive plays, too. The bottom line is that there must be a good, consistent pass rush for this defense to be successful.

gary
08-29-2010, 11:11 AM
I love what I saw but refuse to get overly excited because we have been down this road before.

GP
08-29-2010, 11:23 AM
1. JACOBY JONES:
Defense are in big trouble if Jacoby Jones starts as a WR for the Texans. Because he gets down field, and loses his man soooo easily. The play-action pass play where Jacoby drives his man (and the safety, by the way) one direction then plants his foot and goes the other direction is d-e-a-d-l-y. When you have Jacoby Jones' open-field speed and fluidity like that, it essentially makes for a hard day's work for DBs out there.

2a. ARIAN FOSTER:
This guy has tremendous balance when he makes his cutbacks and avoids tackles. The upper body stays centered and forward, and his lower body is doing the shifting and re-direction. And he's doing all this while still running upfield HARD. His vision is phenomenal. There was a play in the 3rd quarter, I think it was the TD right after the Kareem Jackson interception. We were near the goal line, and Foster runs the ball up the middle, and he slows down before getting to the line of scrimmage...baiting the LB to commit to the middle of he LOS, only to make a HARD cut to the right side of our OL and he was gone. BOOP! That was wicked sick. Baited the LB to commit, then popped out to the edge. Done.

2b. JEREMIAH JOHNSON and CHRIS HENRY:
Cut Chris Henry and bring in someone else. The guy is awful. Jeremiah Johnson is like a cross between Moats and Slaton. I was satisfied with his play, and I think he and Slaton can tote the rock if they have to. Chris Henry doesn't look like anything special to me. He consistently finds a way to hit a pile, pump his feet 1,000 times as if he's running the ropes drill, and get arm-tackled at the LOS. Hooray! LOL.

3. DEFENSE:
Swarming bees on crack cocaine. I can't name all the people who did great things. They all did great things. I will tell you this, Sheppard in the 4th quarter put a brutal move on #77 and left the guy standing there looking around wondering where Sheppard had gone, and Sheppard de-faced the QB McGee on that particular play. Should have been a flag for hitting the QB in the head, but oh well.

4. KICKERS:
So Kubiak says he wants to see how deep each kicker can drive the ball on kickoffs, eh? LOL. I am glad the head coach of this team laid out a challenge and is forcing this issue. Our kicks have not been deep enough, something many of you on here have been saying for a long time. I will say this for Kris Brow: He is a MUCH better tackler than Rackers is. He gets in there and plants a hit on the returner. Rackers sort of rolled up and tried to be a human speed bump out there. Both guys kicked FGs well. I'll say this: Keep both these guys on the roster. Seriously. If they push each other THIS well, then maybe it would be wise to keep 'em both when it comes late in the season. I know that's an extra spot on the roster. So what. Some teams have a kickoff kicker and a FG kicker. Why can't we? Might as well, especially if it pays off like it has this preseason. They both look equally good.

5. PLAYCALLING:
Overall, this was an aggressive playcalling game. I am more impressed thus far than I was with Kyle in the past. I think Dennison might actually have boosted our offense. I am verrrry comfortable with the guy calling the plays. And Kubiak looked like a head coach out there. He wasn't scanning the menu as far as the TV cameras were showing, at least. He was watching the field and intensely "into the game." That was a nice scene for this fan.

Overall, it felt like heaven last night. Last preseason game means nothing because it's scrub time (guys trying to make the team). Which means this game was our tune-up for the opener. I'm good with what we have. This was the perfect storm for us, but in a good way: We were at home, against the Cowboys who get "love" no matter how bad they are in a given year, we came off a horrible game last week, and we dominated our opponent in every single aspect of the game.

GP
08-29-2010, 11:24 AM
I think Foster's best skills are vision and instinct. Like a QB, a RB can see the field, or he can't. Foster can. I'd just like to see him hold the ball closer to his body.

Regarding our corners (Jackson/Quin/McCain), I think they will be better later in the year than they are now. There will be growing pains. There will be penalties. But, I think there will be some big defensive plays, too. The bottom line is that there must be a good, consistent pass rush for this defense to be successful.

In reply to the bolded above, read what I typed about Foster while you were typing your post.

I agree.

It's like a taller, heavier Domanick Davis. For real.

m5kwatts
08-29-2010, 11:34 AM
I laughed out loud at Jacoby's post-game quote here

(on Arian Foster's performance) "He's stepping up, once he stepped in on those last four games he picked up on a good foot and that's what we need. He's toting that thing, he's toting it like a loaf of bread."

TimeKiller
08-29-2010, 11:36 AM
I think Foster's best skills are vision and instinct. Like a QB, a RB can see the field, or he can't. Foster can. I'd just like to see him hold the ball closer to his body.

Regarding our corners (Jackson/Quin/McCain), I think they will be better later in the year than they are now. There will be growing pains. There will be penalties. But, I think there will be some big defensive plays, too. The bottom line is that there must be a good, consistent pass rush for this defense to be successful.
Oh definitely the bolded. If the CBs get any better, even with "growing pains" I'll be ecstatic. They are adequate right now, they are giving the front 7 enough time to be disruptive and at the same time, the front 7 is responding with disruptions and giving them chances to tip balls, get picks, be physical and really impact the game where before...their collective impact was collecting checks.

1. JACOBY JONES:
Defense are in big trouble if Jacoby Jones starts as a WR for the Texans. Because he gets down field, and loses his man soooo easily. The play-action pass play where Jacoby drives his man (and the safety, by the way) one direction then plants his foot and goes the other direction is d-e-a-d-l-y. When you have Jacoby Jones' open-field speed and fluidity like that, it essentially makes for a hard day's work for DBs out there.
Jacoby lining up with Walter and Johnson is stupid hard to deal with. Especially with Matty Ice slingin' the rock.

2a. ARIAN FOSTER:
This guy has tremendous balance when he makes his cutbacks and avoids tackles. The upper body stays centered and forward, and his lower body is doing the shifting and re-direction. And he's doing all this while still running upfield HARD. His vision is phenomenal. There was a play in the 3rd quarter, I think it was the TD right after the Kareem Jackson interception. We were near the goal line, and Foster runs the ball up the middle, and he slows down before getting to the line of scrimmage...baiting the LB to commit to the middle of he LOS, only to make a HARD cut to the right side of our OL and he was gone. BOOP! That was wicked sick. Baited the LB to commit, then popped out to the edge. Done.
I just rewatched his highlight video on ht.com like 6 times. He never has a huge hole, he just hits it with all his power. When he gets through the line he already sees his next victim or where the daylight is. When the ball is in his hands he just eats up yards and seemed very tough to bring down.

3. DEFENSE:
Swarming bees on crack cocaine. I can't name all the people who did great things. They all did great things. I will tell you this, Sheppard in the 4th quarter put a brutal move on #77 and left the guy standing there looking around wondering where Sheppard had gone, and Sheppard de-faced the QB McGee on that particular play. Should have been a flag for hitting the QB in the head, but oh well.

Yeah. I watched the Romo pitch disaster highlight over and over too and the defense is lined up like a 3-5-3 which I've never seen before...they had Okoye/Cody/ASmith with hands on the ground, Mario-Meco-Cush-Pollard-Barwin as a mega LB group or something with Quin/Wilson/Jackson playing deep. They say if Jones would've handled the ball he would've had a hold but what I saw was Okoye/Cody taking up blockers and one blocker getting free to nullify Mario but the thing is, he had Ryans outside and Cush up the middle to pick from and both were coming with bad intentions. The look clearly confused Jones who didn't even see the pitch. Had he caught it, saw the impending doom and decided to cut back he had Smith, Pollard and Barwin to look forward to. They clearly sold out on the run when they saw it and really took it to the 'boys.

Lucky
08-29-2010, 11:38 AM
It's like a taller, heavier Domanick Davis. For real.
Foster reminds me some of ex-Packer Dorsey Levens. A complete back. You don't realize he's beating you. Until he beats you.

infantrycak
08-29-2010, 11:38 AM
I will say this for Kris Brow: He is a MUCH better tackler than Rackers is. He gets in there and plants a hit on the returner. Rackers sort of rolled up and tried to be a human speed bump out there.

With one year less in the league Rackers has 35 tackles compared to Brown's 12.

Having said that, yes KB is aggressive in his tackles but Rackers has proven himself as well in making stops.

Kaiser Toro
08-29-2010, 11:41 AM
With one year less in the league Rackers has 35 tackles compared to Brown's 12.

Shenanigans or blasphemy? You decide. :kitten:

TimeKiller
08-29-2010, 11:42 AM
With one year less in the league Rackers has 35 tackles compared to Brown's 12.

How dare you fabricate stats to prove a point...


hehehe yankin your chain, that was a pretty nice hit on the returner though by KB, huh? certainly gave me a little shit talking fuel to the cowgirls fans behind us...

Kaiser Toro
08-29-2010, 11:46 AM
Foster reminds me some of ex-Packer Dorsey Levens. A complete back. You don't realize he's beating you. Until he beats you.

I am extremely happy that I "reached" for Foster in the sixth round of my draft on Friday night.

Watching our running game last night, was like watching the ZBS in Denver years ago. It finally looked like what I expected when Kubiak showed up. It appears the missing ingredient was finding the right back.

thunderkyss
08-29-2010, 12:02 PM
-Tony Romo sucks.

-Arian Foster does not. Fosty's got no skill that sets him apart from anyone, save will power. He wills his way into yards, first downs, jukes guys completely out...just a player.

-The OL and Foster looked decent. That's all I'll ask for if the results are similar to what we saw last night.


I remember a guy named Wali Lundy.

We didn't expect a whole lot from him, but his preseason performance (along with Vernand Morency's) had us thinking our run game would at least be decent).

I'm just saying, this is preseason.

dinkatoid
08-29-2010, 12:23 PM
I was kind of curious about 2 things:

1) I thought I had heard that we traded out Studdard for Wade Smith this game, and I know I saw Studdard out there with the 2nd unit (I am a bit hazy on some details, I had a fantasy draft that started most of the way though and had my attention split). Did it seem like maybe this helped fuel the line some? I know the Cowboys did not really look good in their pass rush, but I did see some nice pockets for Shaub to step up into.

2) I know a few people have mentioned this, but as good as our O looked, Shaub made some weird throws (like missing a screen by a large amount) and seemed to have an odd look on his face after he did it. Did anyone hear anything about him after the game?

On a side note, I love the more exotic looks. It is definitely not normal for us, but thats one reason why we play the preseason - to try new things out. Hopefully they found a few new tools they like and can throw them in here and there to mix it up some.

Norg
08-29-2010, 12:26 PM
DID pollard get into another fight with someone HAHAHAH i love it

thunderkyss
08-29-2010, 12:39 PM
DID pollard get into another fight with someone HAHAHAH i love it

Actually, it was Diles.

The Pencil Neck
08-29-2010, 12:51 PM
Yeah. I watched the Romo pitch disaster highlight over and over too and the defense is lined up like a 3-5-3 which I've never seen before...they had Okoye/Cody/ASmith with hands on the ground, Mario-Meco-Cush-Pollard-Barwin as a mega LB group or something with Quin/Wilson/Jackson playing deep. They say if Jones would've handled the ball he would've had a hold but what I saw was Okoye/Cody taking up blockers and one blocker getting free to nullify Mario but the thing is, he had Ryans outside and Cush up the middle to pick from and both were coming with bad intentions. The look clearly confused Jones who didn't even see the pitch. Had he caught it, saw the impending doom and decided to cut back he had Smith, Pollard and Barwin to look forward to. They clearly sold out on the run when they saw it and really took it to the 'boys.

They've been experimenting with this package all preseason. They've also been experimenting with a 3-4 alignment where the extra linebacker is one of the "athletic" DE's (Mario/Barwin/Nading) frequently lining up as an inside linebacker but also stunting a lot pre-snap moving inside and outside to overload and confuse the blockers.

This is not the old Richard Smith Defense. This thing looks modern.

And it was nice to see a CB blitz in the nickel.

The Pencil Neck
08-29-2010, 12:56 PM
I was kind of curious about 2 things:

1) I thought I had heard that we traded out Studdard for Wade Smith this game, and I know I saw Studdard out there with the 2nd unit (I am a bit hazy on some details, I had a fantasy draft that started most of the way though and had my attention split). Did it seem like maybe this helped fuel the line some? I know the Cowboys did not really look good in their pass rush, but I did see some nice pockets for Shaub to step up into.

2) I know a few people have mentioned this, but as good as our O looked, Shaub made some weird throws (like missing a screen by a large amount) and seemed to have an odd look on his face after he did it. Did anyone hear anything about him after the game?

On a side note, I love the more exotic looks. It is definitely not normal for us, but thats one reason why we play the preseason - to try new things out. Hopefully they found a few new tools they like and can throw them in here and there to mix it up some.

1) Wade Smith played with the 1's and he did a very good job. I think he's definitely an upgrade to Studdard. On the Right side, we played Caldwell for most of the time with the ones but Brisiel was out there for a couple of series as well. They played well, too.

2) There were some strange misses where it looked like Schaub and the receivers were out of synch. I'm not sure who had the misread. Hopefully, that's something they get worked out before the season starts.

The Pencil Neck
08-29-2010, 12:56 PM
Actually, it was Diles.

Diles got called for it but it was Pollard who was actually doing the jawing.

Big Lou
08-29-2010, 01:03 PM
I love what I saw but refuse to get overly excited because we have been down this road before.

I agree with you Gary. I was in a better mood this morning compared to last sunday, but I wasn't as pissed as some at last weeks performance.

This is Preseason, it could be an indicator it could be nothing. I just like watching the guys knock each other around until it counts.

The only thing about Preseason is i cringe every play thinking key guys are gonna get injured. As must as I see AJ, AF, MS, blowing up defenses I cring when they get the ball!!!!!!

thunderkyss
08-29-2010, 01:03 PM
They've been experimenting with this package all preseason. They've also been experimenting with a 3-4 alignment where the extra linebacker is one of the "athletic" DE's (Mario/Barwin/Nading) frequently lining up as an inside linebacker but also stunting a lot pre-snap moving inside and outside to overload and confuse the blockers.

This is not the old Richard Smith Defense. This thing looks modern.

And it was nice to see a CB blitz in the nickel.

They also tried to do some of this early last year. These formations would show up in those first three games, and if I remember right, some of our "big mistakes" came out of them.

When we simplified, I think these are the kind of things we took out.

Having a better idea who our base defensive personel are going to be, remember BArwin & Cushing were rookies last year, and having the basic packages down, I think we are all going to be pleasantly surprised with some of the exotics we are going to see on defense.

Last year, we were pretty awesome on defense, and we were mostly vanilla + attitude.

thunderkyss
08-29-2010, 01:07 PM
Diles got called for it but it was Pollard who was actually doing the jawing.

They called it on Diles, because while Pollard was doing the Jawing, Diles came in with a chest bump, and started the pushing.

Diles ignited the powder keg.

The Pencil Neck
08-29-2010, 01:09 PM
They called it on Diles, because while Pollard was doing the Jawing, Diles came in with a chest bump, and started the pushing.

Diles ignited the powder keg.

Ah. Didn't see that part.

Big Lou
08-29-2010, 01:15 PM
5. PLAYCALLING:
Overall, this was an aggressive playcalling game. I am more impressed thus far than I was with Kyle in the past. I think Dennison might actually have boosted our offense. I am verrrry comfortable with the guy calling the plays. And Kubiak looked like a head coach out there. He wasn't scanning the menu as far as the TV cameras were showing, at least. He was watching the field and intensely "into the game." That was a nice scene for this fan.







Whats with all the Shot Gun formations? Is that a Dennison thing, or just a Preseason thing. Kubes hardly ever runs the Gun, unless I'm losing it!

Yankee_In_TX
08-29-2010, 01:33 PM
I love what I saw but refuse to get overly excited because we have been down this road before.

I agree - I have now turned the panic light off and turned on the 'wait for regular season' light back on.

My biggest concern right now is still red zone

Oh, and $6 whiskey is a bad idea, even if it is going into a punch.

thunderkyss
08-29-2010, 01:38 PM
And Kubiak looked like a head coach out there. He wasn't scanning the menu as far as the TV cameras were showing, at least. He was watching the field and intensely "into the game." That was a nice scene for this fan.


You should watch the Indy at Indy game from last year. Kubiak wasn't reading the menu.

AT one point, he was giving it to Coach Joe.

DexmanC
08-29-2010, 02:25 PM
2a. ARIAN FOSTER:
There was a play in the 3rd quarter, I think it was the TD right after the Kareem Jackson interception. We were near the goal line, and Foster runs the ball up the middle, and he slows down before getting to the line of scrimmage...baiting the LB to commit to the middle of he LOS, only to make a HARD cut to the right side of our OL and he was gone. BOOP! That was wicked sick. Baited the LB to commit, then popped out to the edge. Done.


I believe I heard Phil Simms scream "WHOAA WHAT A CUT!!

ESAD2-14
08-29-2010, 02:49 PM
Ah. Didn't see that part.

I think Shaun Cody started that initial little scrum when he got in the face of one of the Cowboys (do not know who it was-but I liked seeing the attitude), Diles and Pollard wanted a piece to I guess.

DexmanC
08-29-2010, 02:52 PM
I'm rewatching the game on NFL.Preseason.com, and it sounds like
Gus Johnson was a Texans fan. He kept schooling Phil Simms all night
about the Texans.

This is one of the few times I'm glad Gus Johnson has called so many
Texans games over the years. He probably knows the team like the
back of his hand by now.

Malloy
08-29-2010, 03:15 PM
I was kind of curious about 2 things:

2) I know a few people have mentioned this, but as good as our O looked, Shaub made some weird throws (like missing a screen by a large amount) and seemed to have an odd look on his face after he did it. Did anyone hear anything about him after the game?


I wondered about this too, I think it's part of the new and improved 'get rid of the ball if the play is not there'.

GP
08-29-2010, 04:58 PM
Foster reminds me some of ex-Packer Dorsey Levens. A complete back. You don't realize he's beating you. Until he beats you.

He has that next gear that DD didn't have. Clears a tackler around the edge, and you can see his stride get one notch faster. As in INSTANTLY.

I also notice that he is picking his spots on how he goes down to the tacklers. One play, he saw the hits coming and he curled up, causing two Cowboys defenders to hit each other in the helmet(s). He's also going out of bounds when he needs to. Maybe this guy knows he can't grind himself into the ground. He acts like he wants 10 years out of his body, not 2.

thunderkyss
08-29-2010, 05:41 PM
Foster reminds me some of ex-Packer Dorsey Levens. A complete back. You don't realize he's beating you. Until he beats you.

I think you've got it. I knew he reminded me of someone, couldn't put my finger on it, but I think you've nailed it.


Dorsey Levens.

DexmanC
08-29-2010, 05:53 PM
I think you've got it. I knew he reminded me of someone, couldn't put my finger on it, but I think you've nailed it.


Dorsey Levens.

That's a name from the past. Nobody said that name like Pat Summeral.
"Five yards for Dorsey L-L-L-Levens."

El Tejano
08-29-2010, 06:22 PM
Here's my thoughts:

http://www.texanstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=74499

Texas T
08-29-2010, 06:42 PM
I agree - I have now turned the panic light off and turned on the 'wait for regular season' light back on.

My biggest concern right now is still red zone

Oh, and $6 whiskey is a bad idea, even if it is going into a punch.

I'm in the same place.

There definitely should have been more TDs-Red Zone was weak.

Oh yeah, you shoulda asked I learned about the $6 whiskey in high school!

Big Lou
08-29-2010, 07:02 PM
He has that next gear that DD didn't have. Clears a tackler around the edge, and you can see his stride get one notch faster. As in INSTANTLY.

I also notice that he is picking his spots on how he goes down to the tacklers. One play, he saw the hits coming and he curled up, causing two Cowboys defenders to hit each other in the helmet(s). He's also going out of bounds when he needs to. Maybe this guy knows he can't grind himself into the ground. He acts like he wants 10 years out of his body, not 2.


May they ran a sweep and AF was patiently running and then he gunned and really accelerated. I was shocked that he had that much speed left!!!

DexmanC
08-29-2010, 07:09 PM
I agree - I have now turned the panic light off and turned on the 'wait for regular season' light back on.

My biggest concern right now is still red zone


http://i47.tinypic.com/348j1pv.jpg
Dad gummit! What more can I do to show
you we'll be ready for Indy? The kids are battlin'
like no other! That's F@*#'in bulls*t!


Well. Sounds like Kubiak is tired of the criticism. Let's see if his boys
have "Da Fiyaaah" on opening day.

TimeKiller
08-29-2010, 10:04 PM
At the very least, I don't think Peyton Manning will be laughing when he brings all his flippity flop nonsense to the line, looks up and says "UH OH SPAGHETTIOS" with all these guys breathing down his neck. I really believe we have a chance to put it to the Colts in the first game. That team is Peyton Manning, if they get to him with all these crazy contraption defensive stances it wouldn't be much of a stretch to think our offense is going to steamroll their D.

DexmanC
08-29-2010, 10:18 PM
At the very least, I don't think Peyton Manning will be laughing when he brings all his flippity flop nonsense to the line, looks up and says "UH OH SPAGHETTIOS" with all these guys breathing down his neck. I really believe we have a chance to put it to the Colts in the first game. That team is Peyton Manning, if they get to him with all these crazy contraption defensive stances it wouldn't be much of a stretch to think our offense is going to steamroll their D.

You may have a point. It'll be interesting to see our corners press the
line, instead of giving a 10-yard cushion on 3rd and 7.

infantrycak
08-30-2010, 12:27 AM
He has that next gear that DD didn't have.

DD had a quicker 1st gear and AF has a bigger top gear (although still not a SS in that regard)

At the very least, I don't think Peyton Manning will be laughing when he brings all his flippity flop nonsense to the line, looks up and says "UH OH SPAGHETTIOS" with all these guys breathing down his neck. I really believe we have a chance to put it to the Colts in the first game. That team is Peyton Manning, if they get to him with all these crazy contraption defensive stances it wouldn't be much of a stretch to think our offense is going to steamroll their D.

This is pure surmise from watching Manning on the sideline but 1-15 or not I think for the last few years he has taken the Texans very, very seriously. Unfortunately that means the best QB in the game right now puts extra work in to prepare for games with us.

DexmanC
08-30-2010, 12:34 AM
This is pure surmise from watching Manning on the sideline but 1-15 or not I think for the last few years he has taken the Texans very, very seriously. Unfortunately that means the best QB in the game right now puts extra work in to prepare for games with us.

This is VERRY true. For two reasons.

#1 Peyton places extra emphasis on EVERY division game (according to interviews seen
on NFL.com).

#2 Peyton does NOT want the Texans to realize they are on equal
footing with the Colts.

This is by far the most interesting season I've seen the Texans
involved in, and it hasn't even started yet.

infantrycak
08-30-2010, 01:25 AM
This is VERRY true. For two reasons.

#1 Peyton places extra emphasis on EVERY division game (according to interviews seen
on NFL.com).

#2 Peyton does NOT want the Texans to realize they are on equal
footing with the Colts.

This is by far the most interesting season I've seen the Texans
involved in, and it hasn't even started yet.

On this one we may travel different routes but get to the same conclusion. I don't think people appreciate that as we sit here and discuss where Manning is among the top 5 QB's of all time that the "kids" (yes I said it and here is why) out on the field see him in an entirely different light. They don't know Staubach, Namath, Bradshaw, Tarkington, or Kelly. Manning is the measure of a QB for their football existence. It's pretty darn daunting to go up against who you grew up considering the best QB. But Manning is getting nervous. You can see it on the sidelines, how he talks to the refs, etc. He doesn't like Texans games anymore. He's pulled them out but the petulance/nervouseness factor has gone up exponentially.

Grams
08-30-2010, 06:11 AM
On this one we may travel different routes but get to the same conclusion. I don't think people appreciate that as we sit here and discuss where Manning is among the top 5 QB's of all time that the "kids" (yes I said it and here is why) out on the field see him in an entirely different light. They don't know Staubach, Namath, Bradshaw, Tarkington, or Kelly. Manning is the measure of a QB for their football existence. It's pretty darn daunting to go up against who you grew up considering the best QB. But Manning is getting nervous. You can see it on the sidelines, how he talks to the refs, etc. He doesn't like Texans games anymore. He's pulled them out but the petulance/nervouseness factor has gone up exponentially.

I think so too. We have come very close to beating them several times over the past few years. Manning knows we can beat him. Once our "kids" know that - watch out.

TimeKiller
08-30-2010, 07:51 AM
DD had a quicker 1st gear and AF has a bigger top gear (although still not a SS in that regard)



This is pure surmise from watching Manning on the sideline but 1-15 or not I think for the last few years he has taken the Texans very, very seriously. Unfortunately that means the best QB in the game right now puts extra work in to prepare for games with us.

Yeah, last year probably opened his eyes a little bit but it doesn't take much notice this D is moving around presnap, lining up in crazy forms, MAKING it confusing...even if their plays remain the same, we're equaling the BS Manning does presnap to hide what is really going on. I think Manning knows there are plenty of things he hasn't seen yet and when he stands across from it how's he gonna react?