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J_R
08-21-2010, 10:06 PM
Danny Clark INT

mariowillshine15
08-21-2010, 10:06 PM
Hooray turnover!

OzzO
08-21-2010, 10:06 PM
An INT! Shock!

ObsiWan
08-21-2010, 10:07 PM
Hey, the old man in the LB corps comes thru!!

C Madd
08-21-2010, 10:07 PM
Damn my feed is way behind. Guess I know what's about to happen.

Brandon420tx
08-21-2010, 10:07 PM
Get JJ out of there before DanO kills him

Ckw
08-21-2010, 10:07 PM
Well I guess I just need to start saying more good things about the Saints. I talk about how I wish we had Daniel instead of Orlovsky and he throws a pick. 1st Saints turnover too I think.

mariowillshine15
08-21-2010, 10:07 PM
and a new nickname is born

how the hell do you misthrow a 6-ft pass???

Well, at least he didn't one-hop it like he did last week

Yea he's making progress.

Going from terrible to horrible.

gary
08-21-2010, 10:08 PM
Troy Evans is a nice ST player.

J_R
08-21-2010, 10:09 PM
Kris Brown FG is good

mariowillshine15
08-21-2010, 10:09 PM
Are the coaches telling Dan-O to suck so we can get continue the kicking battle?

TwoTrill
08-21-2010, 10:09 PM
Troy Evans is a nice ST player.

former texan

OzzO
08-21-2010, 10:09 PM
Kris makes one.... the competition continues

TexanExile
08-21-2010, 10:09 PM
FG good. You're doing a heck of a job, Brownie.

Wait...can you say that in New Orleans (http://politicalhumor.about.com/od/bushismvideos/youtube/brownieheckjob.htm)?

Lucky
08-21-2010, 10:09 PM
Am I a bad fan to wish Brown had missed that FG?

Brandon420tx
08-21-2010, 10:09 PM
DanO' throws remind me of a Flak Cannon

Yankee_In_TX
08-21-2010, 10:10 PM
Anyone else worried about #80 and that hit he took?

sometexansfan
08-21-2010, 10:10 PM
Am I a bad fan to wish Brown had missed that FG?

If you are, I guess I am too haha.

mariowillshine15
08-21-2010, 10:10 PM
Am I a bad fan to wish Brown had missed that FG?

No you were not the only one thinking that.

I think if they pumped in some crowd noise he would of shat his pants and missed.

C Madd
08-21-2010, 10:10 PM
am i a bad fan to wish brown had missed that fg?

lol

OzzO
08-21-2010, 10:10 PM
Am I a bad fan to wish Brown had missed that FG?

Nope. I was thinking the same thing. Wondering if Brown was clinching just a bit till the ball went through.

Lucky
08-21-2010, 10:10 PM
Anyone else worried about #80 and that hit he took?
Not until you reminded me. Thanks for that.

Buffi2
08-21-2010, 10:11 PM
Am I a bad fan to wish Brown had missed that FG?

I was sortof hoping the same thing.

Yankee_In_TX
08-21-2010, 10:11 PM
Not until you reminded me. Thanks for that.

I like to pee in folks' cornflakes.

OzzO
08-21-2010, 10:11 PM
a dribble kick?

ObsiWan
08-21-2010, 10:12 PM
Am I a bad fan to wish Brown had missed that FG?

yes
while I know your motive, one should never want us to not get points

Lucky
08-21-2010, 10:13 PM
yes
while I know your motive, one should never want us to not get points
Because preseason results are important.

Buffi2
08-21-2010, 10:13 PM
Anyone else worried about #80 and that hit he took?

I was wondering if anyone had asked about him as I've been flipping back and forth between the other preseason games on NFL Network and wondered if I missed something. Yes, I'm concerned.

gary
08-21-2010, 10:13 PM
former texanYhea, lol

Yankee_In_TX
08-21-2010, 10:13 PM
No posts during commercials?

Yankee_In_TX
08-21-2010, 10:14 PM
I was wondering if anyone had asked about him as I've been flipping back and forth between the other preseason games on NFL Network and wondered if I missed something. Yes, I'm concerned.

HOPEFULLY he is fine - but I could see it be a thing where suddenly we hear late Monday he's going to miss time.

mariowillshine15
08-21-2010, 10:14 PM
No posts during commercials?

Well during the commercial i caught a case of the Texans Running backs and fumbled my keyboard.

My dog recovered.

TexanExile
08-21-2010, 10:14 PM
On my "real" TV I have the Ravens/Skins game's final minutes going. I bet our former offensive coordinator's wondering what happened to the Skins high octane performance from last week. 23-3 tonight, and they're the 3.

Lucky
08-21-2010, 10:14 PM
No posts during commercials?
Too busy pissing in cornflakes.

BullNation4Life
08-21-2010, 10:15 PM
One thing that concerns me with Rackers is his leg strength. 52yard FG and he barley made it. Brown has plenty of leg strength but his accuracy is a concern

Brandon420tx
08-21-2010, 10:15 PM
Barwin trying to go inside gave away the outside

ObsiWan
08-21-2010, 10:15 PM
Because preseason results are important.

no, because we need something positive from this offense

J_R
08-21-2010, 10:15 PM
Cant defend the screen

Yankee_In_TX
08-21-2010, 10:15 PM
Too busy pissing in cornflakes.

lmao - rep

Brandon420tx
08-21-2010, 10:16 PM
One thing that concerns me with Rackers is his leg strength. 52yard FG and he barley made it. Brown has plenty of leg strength but his accuracy is a concern

I'd rather the kicker have mmore accuracy than power anyway

Lucky
08-21-2010, 10:16 PM
no, because we need something positive from this offense
The offense was off the field on that FGA, no?

ObsiWan
08-21-2010, 10:16 PM
Cant defend the screen

we must be telegraphing our blitzes because they call or check to a screen pass every damned time we call one

Yankee_In_TX
08-21-2010, 10:17 PM
we must be telegraphing our blitzes because they call or check to one every damned time

Something is going on because they are.

Brandon420tx
08-21-2010, 10:17 PM
I love seeing us get dragged for a first down

J_R
08-21-2010, 10:18 PM
TD Arrington for Saints

mariowillshine15
08-21-2010, 10:18 PM
Well we made Ryan Fitzpatricks career a few years ago.

Next up Chase Daniels

OzzO
08-21-2010, 10:18 PM
Undrafted QB lighting yo @$$ up!

Pantherstang84
08-21-2010, 10:18 PM
Are we just running vanilla defense?

mariowillshine15
08-21-2010, 10:19 PM
Are we just running vanilla defense?

I think were running no defense.

Yankee_In_TX
08-21-2010, 10:19 PM
I give up, I need another beer and we're going to go watch Hot Tub Time Machine.

Brandon420tx
08-21-2010, 10:19 PM
Where is the sky is falling smilie the closest I could find earlier was the head on fire one

BullNation4Life
08-21-2010, 10:20 PM
Are we just running vanilla defense?

No they are getting their ass kicked

OzzO
08-21-2010, 10:20 PM
mcmanis returning!

BullNation4Life
08-21-2010, 10:21 PM
They are making Chase Daniels look like freaking Drew Brees...

ObsiWan
08-21-2010, 10:21 PM
The offense was off the field on that FGA, no?

They were off the field whether Brown made the kick or not. Are you saying they should have gone for it on fourth down??

If you wanted Brown to miss so Rackers would be ahead in this competition, I get that. I'd just rather see us get some points.

TexanExile
08-21-2010, 10:21 PM
One thing that concerns me with Rackers is his leg strength. 52yard FG and he barley made it. Brown has plenty of leg strength but his accuracy is a concern

Yeah, that's a fair point, but with this offense the problem hasn't been getting closer than the 52-yard FG range. Not finishing the drives is a bigger issue to me. Brown is stronger, but he was the worst 16-game kicker in the NFL last year. He only had 4 attempts from beyond 50 and missed 2 of them (http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?tabSeq=0&statisticCategory=FIELD_GOALS&season=2009&seasonType=REG).

I'll take Rackers' shorter range.

C Madd
08-21-2010, 10:21 PM
No posts during commercials?

Was too busy spilling my Newcastle :pissed:

gary
08-21-2010, 10:21 PM
Are we just running vanilla defense?Hey, I returned the rep to you.

euro-Texan
08-21-2010, 10:21 PM
This team will be lucky to see 7 wins

OzzO
08-21-2010, 10:21 PM
nice run to the outside by slaton

late hit offense?

HouTxFan
08-21-2010, 10:22 PM
Nice play DA!

WolverineFan
08-21-2010, 10:22 PM
Great run by Slaton and then the obligatory late hit that follows every good Slaton play. Great YAC by Anderson on the last play.

Pantherstang84
08-21-2010, 10:22 PM
Hey, I returned the rep to you.

Thanks. But you didn't have to.

Texanmike02
08-21-2010, 10:23 PM
Am I the only one who is tired of being the springboard for the saints?

Mike

mariowillshine15
08-21-2010, 10:23 PM
Slaton has no holes. The o-line is getting wrecked.

OzzO
08-21-2010, 10:24 PM
Time for some Booty and Jeramiah?

gary
08-21-2010, 10:25 PM
Thanks. But you didn't have to.I know, I just wanted to though.

C Madd
08-21-2010, 10:26 PM
My feed died :(

Brandon420tx
08-21-2010, 10:26 PM
Thank god, its the 4th quarter

ObsiWan
08-21-2010, 10:26 PM
Time for some Booty and Jeramiah?

http://store.liamshow.com/images/nobooty_undies.jpg

Lucky
08-21-2010, 10:27 PM
My feed died :(
My feed died!!! :)

No, it didn't. :(

Brandon420tx
08-21-2010, 10:27 PM
I still think DanO is going to get JJ killed

J_R
08-21-2010, 10:27 PM
Dan O leads us to a score

BullNation4Life
08-21-2010, 10:28 PM
Dan O not looking too bad....

mariowillshine15
08-21-2010, 10:28 PM
Nice touch on that pass from Dan-O

Brandon420tx
08-21-2010, 10:29 PM
Dan O not looking too bad....

I guess you didn't see hi shokput that screen

DexmanC
08-21-2010, 10:29 PM
Orlovsky looks much improved over last preseason.
Dude has a rocket arm. All he needs is the seasoning
in his headspace.

C Madd
08-21-2010, 10:30 PM
My feed died!!! :)

No, it didn't. :(

How unfortunate! :D
Did want to get to catch a glimpse of Jeremiah Johnson this game, though

Brandon420tx
08-21-2010, 10:31 PM
:chili:+:francis:=:firehair:

DexmanC
08-21-2010, 10:31 PM
My feed died :(

I'm watching via Preseason.NFL.com

They've REALLY outdone themselves with this product.

mariowillshine15
08-21-2010, 10:31 PM
More shoddy tackling.

mariowillshine15
08-21-2010, 10:32 PM
I'm watching via Preseason.NFL.com

They've REALLY outdone themselves with this product.

Is that sarcasm or is it that good?

ObsiWan
08-21-2010, 10:34 PM
come on defense, get a turnover

sometexansfan
08-21-2010, 10:34 PM
So after the pitiful pass rush we showed tonight, anyone think we should call up Schobel and beg him to play?

ObsiWan
08-21-2010, 10:36 PM
A Jacque Reeves sighting!!

Lucky
08-21-2010, 10:36 PM
Orlovsky looks much improved over last preseason.
Dude has a rocket arm. All he needs is the seasoning
in his headspace.
Good grief! Orlovsky's in his 6th season in the NFL. If he was going to get it, he would have gotten it by now.

J_R
08-21-2010, 10:36 PM
Saints go for it on 4th, they get it.

ObsiWan
08-21-2010, 10:36 PM
So after the pitiful pass rush we showed tonight, anyone think we should call up Schobel and beg him to play?

[does 180 and raises hand]

Brandon420tx
08-21-2010, 10:36 PM
Chase Daniels HOFamer?

Dwade
08-21-2010, 10:37 PM
4th and 1 and they bite on the play action

:facepalm:

ObsiWan
08-21-2010, 10:37 PM
Good grief! Orlovsky's in his 6th season in the NFL. If he was going to get it, he would have gotten it by now.

Totally agree.

Brandon420tx
08-21-2010, 10:38 PM
Wow, the Saints RB's run to space our RB's run into OLineman

mariowillshine15
08-21-2010, 10:39 PM
Good grief! Orlovsky's in his 6th season in the NFL. If he was going to get it, he would have gotten it by now.

Well he did play 4 years for the Lions.

That can scar a player for life.

Pantherstang84
08-21-2010, 10:39 PM
4th and 1 and they bite on the play action

:facepalm:

I give this game :facepalm: :facepalm:

brakos82
08-21-2010, 10:40 PM
Well he did play 4 years for the Lions.

That can scar a player for life.

Sounds like someone who played for us for 5 years. :kitten:

gary
08-21-2010, 10:40 PM
Zero D tonight whatsoever.

ObsiWan
08-21-2010, 10:40 PM
Wow, the Saints RB's run to space our RB's run into OLineman

It's called blocking, we should look into it

brakos82
08-21-2010, 10:40 PM
I give this game :facepalm: :facepalm:

I'll see your :facepalm: :facepalm: and raise you a :francis: and a :foottap:.

mariowillshine15
08-21-2010, 10:40 PM
Sounds like someone who played for us for 5 years. :kitten:

Lol

J_R
08-21-2010, 10:41 PM
Saints go for it on 4th, get it again

Lucky
08-21-2010, 10:41 PM
Well he did play 4 years for the Lions.

After which, the Texans gave him a $9 million contract. And who said Bob McNair is cheap? He'd probably give $20 mil to Chase Daniel, right about now.

Brandon420tx
08-21-2010, 10:42 PM
I hate that they keep going for it on 4th.
I hate even more that they keep succeeding

WolverineFan
08-21-2010, 10:42 PM
Great stick by Nolan there. Unfortunately, the NO RB's have holes everywhere. D-Line is getting abused and LB's are not filling.

brakos82
08-21-2010, 10:43 PM
Well, it's better than Vista.

OzzO
08-21-2010, 10:44 PM
I think NO has scored twice in the last two plays

mariowillshine15
08-21-2010, 10:44 PM
Schobels thinking ching ching baby

HouTxFan
08-21-2010, 10:44 PM
This game brought me back down to Earth. My bubble is definitely burst. :bubbles:

Brandon420tx
08-21-2010, 10:44 PM
We're never going to get a look at Dickerson at this rate

rmartin65
08-21-2010, 10:44 PM
Well, it's better than Vista.

I bet Vista could stop Daniels right now...

OzzO
08-21-2010, 10:44 PM
Well, it's better than Vista.


good one - it's all in the timing

mariowillshine15
08-21-2010, 10:44 PM
Wasnt that 3rd and goal?

J_R
08-21-2010, 10:45 PM
We're never going to get a look at Dickerson at this rate

Dickerson is ill and inactive tonight. Will not see him

mariowillshine15
08-21-2010, 10:45 PM
Nolan is bringing it. He's not playing like a sucka.

WolverineFan
08-21-2010, 10:45 PM
Man, Nolan took over that redzone stand. Made 3 really good plays right there. Love that kid.

OzzO
08-21-2010, 10:45 PM
a sack?


(the Texans defense has one of those?)

Brandon420tx
08-21-2010, 10:46 PM
Dickerson is ill and inactive tonight. Will not see him

I was wondering where he was, he was all I was looking forward to on offense for the second half

J_R
08-21-2010, 10:46 PM
Hartley FG for Saints. 38-20

Brandon420tx
08-21-2010, 10:46 PM
There must be a mistake, surely thats a touchdown

OzzO
08-21-2010, 10:47 PM
It's not, and don't call the Texans defense Shirley.

RazorOye
08-21-2010, 10:48 PM
I hate that they keep going for it on 4th.


one of the Saints offensive achilles heels has been short yardage situations, esp post-Deuce

with the injury to Hamilton, the Saints are trying to find someone who can handle that short yardage role. They signed Betts this week. Ivory and Hill are auditioning for the role.

Last season's NFCCG demonstrated just how crucial a situation this can be.

So I think it's a case of using these situations as they come up in the preseason to see if one of these backs can perform.

Brandon420tx
08-21-2010, 10:48 PM
What no onside kick?

mariowillshine15
08-21-2010, 10:49 PM
Johnson with a great return. Bye bye Holliday.

Dont forget your tricycle.

WolverineFan
08-21-2010, 10:49 PM
SO . . . . let's just take all our RB's and let them return kicks. Slaton and Johnson both with good returns tonight.

OzzO
08-21-2010, 10:49 PM
nice return by jerimiah! I thought he was gonna be stopped around the 12.

Brandon420tx
08-21-2010, 10:50 PM
one of the Saints offensive achilles heels has been short yardage situations, esp post-Deuce

with the injury to Hamilton, the Saints are trying to find someone who can handle that short yardage role. They signed Betts this week. Ivory and Hill are auditioning for the role.

Last season's NFCCG demonstrated just how crucial a situation this can be.

So I think it's a case of using these situations as they come up in the preseason to see if one of these backs can perform.

Its all good. I thought Dickerson was playing tonight and wanted to see him. Turns out I was wrong and he isn't so it didn't matter

ObsiWan
08-21-2010, 10:50 PM
one of the Saints offensive achilles heels has been short yardage situations, esp post-Deuce

with the injury to Hamilton, the Saints are trying to find someone who can handle that short yardage role. They signed Betts this week. Ivory and Hill are auditioning for the role.

Last season's NFCCG demonstrated just how crucial a situation this can be.

So I think it's a case of using these situations as they come up in the preseason to see if one of these backs can perform.

well, they won't be able to gauge those guys until they go up against a real NFL-quality D-line. This wasn't it.

Brandon420tx
08-21-2010, 10:51 PM
I don't even want the ball now. Just punt so the Saints can teach us how to run down a clock

mariowillshine15
08-21-2010, 10:51 PM
Foster has the starting gig now work on your interviews. uhhh uhhh uhhh spit it out junior!

OzzO
08-21-2010, 10:53 PM
I'm seriously not liking the game commentators.....

Lucky
08-21-2010, 10:53 PM
Foster has the starting gig now work on your interviews. uhhh uhhh uhhh spit it out junior!
Yes, he's certainly no Chris Johnson in that department.

ObsiWan
08-21-2010, 10:53 PM
Johnson with a great return. Bye bye Holliday.

Dont forget your tricycle.

They may give him one more shot next week, depending on what he does in practice this week.

J_R
08-21-2010, 10:53 PM
James Casey TD. Going back. Pass interefence

OzzO
08-21-2010, 10:53 PM
Casey with the TD... but offensive pass interference

mariowillshine15
08-21-2010, 10:53 PM
Ahhh the pick play. Reminds me of the phantom one they called against us vs. JAX.

Ughhh

OzzO
08-21-2010, 10:55 PM
Ah come on JJ - pull an AJ and go get that one.

ObsiWan
08-21-2010, 10:55 PM
Ahhh the pick play. Reminds me of the phantom one they called against us vs. JAX.

Ughhh

Graham needs more acting lessons

J_R
08-21-2010, 10:56 PM
David got popped

mariowillshine15
08-21-2010, 10:56 PM
David Anderson is a tough little dude.

Brandon420tx
08-21-2010, 10:56 PM
DanO really is trying to injure a receiver tonight

WolverineFan
08-21-2010, 10:56 PM
David got popped

But still made the catch. Dude is tough.

mariowillshine15
08-21-2010, 10:57 PM
DanO really is trying to injure a receiver tonight

Yea he's definitely not WR friendly.

OzzO
08-21-2010, 10:57 PM
ooh, DA got rocked a bit. 2 min warning Call next play - outside to DA for a TD

ObsiWan
08-21-2010, 10:57 PM
Ah come on JJ - pull an AJ and go get that one.

now if THEY had been on offense WE would have gotten a PI call

OzzO
08-21-2010, 10:58 PM
of course

mariowillshine15
08-21-2010, 10:59 PM
Johnson can barely get the ball before he's swamped. Damn the o-line stinks

ObsiWan
08-21-2010, 10:59 PM
Again, the Saints' D-line collapses our O-line

Brandon420tx
08-21-2010, 10:59 PM
just go for it

OzzO
08-21-2010, 10:59 PM
what the heck?

TexanExile
08-21-2010, 11:00 PM
ARGH. Orlovsky.

ObsiWan
08-21-2010, 11:00 PM
Wait, WHAT!?

WTF!?! What two men were moving?????

Brandon420tx
08-21-2010, 11:00 PM
Good, enough time for the Saints to march down again for a score

OzzO
08-21-2010, 11:01 PM
hit juuuuuuuust a bit early, but that's alright refs

J_R
08-21-2010, 11:01 PM
Thats gonna do it(even though it was over long ago)

OzzO
08-21-2010, 11:02 PM
so, we waited all week for this game, huh? Better show up for your home opener, Texans

ObsiWan
08-21-2010, 11:06 PM
hit juuuuuuuust a bit early, but that's alright refs

At first I thought so too. But my DVR showed that was pretty good timing.

gary
08-21-2010, 11:08 PM
Nolan makes the team.

ObsiWan
08-21-2010, 11:09 PM
That's enough of that

[Erases game from DVR]

Porky
08-21-2010, 11:13 PM
Wow. What a disappointment. I'm ready to :bat:

C Madd
08-21-2010, 11:13 PM
That's enough of that

[Erases game from DVR]

What game?

ObsiWan
08-21-2010, 11:15 PM
What game?

The Saints' scrimmage

Brisco_County
08-21-2010, 11:16 PM
edit: Ok, I've had a few to drink. I'm just not going to say any more.

ObsiWan
08-21-2010, 11:19 PM
At least I know now that we're not making the playoffs. Not from this division, and not with this schedule.

I'm not totally ready to completely write us off for the season. As I said last week, this is one of two tests. Let's see what they do against the Cowgirls
...at home.

DexmanC
08-21-2010, 11:22 PM
I'm not totally ready to completely write us off for the season. As I said last week, this is one of two tests. Let's see what they do against the Cowgirls
...at home.

Last season, test #1 was the Saints. Their second string exposed our
inability to stuff the run. In test #2, the Vikings picked up where the
Saints left off, and gashed us again. The Texans gave up 190 yards
today on the ground.

I'll hold off to see what they do against the Cowpokes. The Texans
have yet to show us that their preseason will be ANY different than
how they start the regular season. They MUST show well next week,
because they don't have the experience of being better this time
of year to call it "just preseason."

J_R
08-21-2010, 11:26 PM
Last season, test #1 was the Saints. Their second string exposed our
inability to stuff the run. In test #2, the Vikings picked up where the
Saints left off, and gashed us again. The Texans gave up 190 yards
today on the ground.

I'll hold off to see what they do against the Cowpokes. The Texans
have yet to show us that their preseason will be ANY different than
how they start the regular season. They MUST show well next week,
because they don't have the experience of being better this time
of year to call it "just preseason."

Exactly. We looked like **** last preseason too. Carried right over into the reg. season, right up until week 3 until things changed, whether that was due to Pollard, the light bulb went on, whatever but it carried over.

Anyhow, Listening to 610: Andre Ware: It's preseason, guys are tired. Just kinda toss this in the garbage. Not sure what you can learn.

J_R
08-21-2010, 11:31 PM
Danny Clark suffers some type of knee-strain

Nawzer
08-21-2010, 11:32 PM
We got beat by the Super Bowl champs. No big surprise there, but Texans better work on their tackling. Its all about the details and I'm sure practicing against the Saints all week was extremely beneficial for our guys.

MEGA SWATT
08-21-2010, 11:49 PM
We got beat by the Super Bowl champs. No big surprise there, but Texans better work on their tackling. Its all about the details and I'm sure practicing against the Saints all week was extremely beneficial for our guys.

We spotted them 14 points on turnovers. You can't do that to any team and expect to win. Turnovers, slow QB, sacks, penalties, poor blocking/tackling--just same ol crap.:kitten:

Alief
08-22-2010, 12:38 AM
Negatives outweigh the positives.....

Yankee_In_TX
08-22-2010, 12:49 AM
Positive news - Hot Tub Time Machine we great!

MojoMan
08-22-2010, 12:55 AM
We got beat by the Super Bowl champs. No big surprise there, but Texans better work on their tackling. Its all about the details and I'm sure practicing against the Saints all week was extremely beneficial for our guys.

Exactly right. The Texans got beaten by the super bowl champions in preseason. Shocker.

DexmanC
08-22-2010, 01:12 AM
Exactly right. The Texans got beaten by the super bowl champions in preseason. Shocker.

"Beaten" is not the appropriate verb. The Texans were "taken-out-to-the-
woodshed" by the Super Bowl Champions in preaseason is more appropriate.

THAT was the shocker. The "New-and-Improved" Texans didn't belong
on the same field as the Super Bowl Champions. Yet, they expect
to be a playoff team.

I have visions of the Colts shoving the run on the Texans, only
to pound them merciless with the playaction pass during week one.

I pray I'm wrong.

redwhiteANDblue
08-22-2010, 02:25 AM
Maybe this was just the result of too much ego? Maybe Texans had a mindset that they are already a dominant D because of the performance in the cards game and today they had a reality check. I expect Demeco and Pollard use this as a lesson and pump up the defense. You know, like use this embarrassment to fight harder the next game.

Just giving a thought out there. But I truly think that they weren't playing all out . Just looked weak. And today I learned that we are just a Stud DT away from being one of the beast defensive teams in the league.

THE NFL
08-22-2010, 02:44 AM
The Texans dont have a dominant defense. They better learn that quick. They are small. Big Olines will push them up and down the field if they dont figure it out.

TheMatrix31
08-22-2010, 06:15 AM
Dude, it's preseason guys.

Wolf
08-22-2010, 06:18 AM
well good thing Buffalo hung 34 on Indy (Indy gave up 31 to SF) ..so we have a chance in all this doom and gloom

:kitten::ant:

:runaway:

I personally am going to take the middle road here, I don't think the defense is going to be as bad as we saw tonight and I hope the defense will be more like what we saw in Arizona (but it is Arizona) so, I think it will be more in the middle.

Preseason is funny to me, how vanilla is vanilla when it comes to playing? Is one team playing more vanilla on offense than the other team is on defense? (or vice versa)? Coaches are (hopefully) working on player evaluations to get ready for the season..

Brandon420tx
08-22-2010, 09:14 AM
I just wish our vanilla was other teams Nepolitan

Houston_Fanatic
08-22-2010, 10:11 AM
I don't care that we lost (it's preseason) but I do care how flat and uninspired we looked out there.

I know it is tough to get motivated for a practice game that doesn't count, but they have a history of not getting their act together until Game 5 or 6 in the regular season so that has me concerned. Other payoff teams seem to be able to walk through pre-season and then bring it when it counts but the Texans have never done that. This would be a good year to start.

Thorn
08-22-2010, 10:21 AM
I don't care that we lost (it's preseason) but I do care how flat and uninspired we looked out there.

I know it is tough to get motivated for a practice game that doesn't count, but they have a history of not getting their act together until Game 5 or 6 in the regular season so that has me concerned. Other payoff teams seem to be able to walk through pre-season and then bring it when it counts but the Texans have never done that. This would be a good year to start.

This.

Buffi2
08-22-2010, 10:22 AM
"Beaten" is not the appropriate verb. The Texans were "taken-out-to-the-
woodshed" by the Super Bowl Champions in preaseason is more appropriate.

THAT was the shocker.

I agree. I didn't expect them to dominate or win. I did expect more than 12% 3rd down conversions and 20 minutes time of possession. I also expected the defense to do more than just go through the paces with no enthusiasm.

This game just reminded me of so many others. The good news is that it is pre season and I'm not going to be depressed for 2 days.

MojoMan
08-22-2010, 10:37 AM
Texans running game against the Saints - 14 carries for 48 yards. Ouch.

http://scores.espn.go.com/nfl/boxscore?gameId=300821018

Honoring Earl 34
08-22-2010, 10:58 AM
Well ... it's like this ... 320 ... 318 ... 343 trumps 283 and 305 .

GP
08-22-2010, 11:28 AM
OK, so last night I watched what appeared to be a scrimmage. When does the actual Saints-Texans preseason game start?

What a train wreck that was. Absolute garbage.

Thorn
08-22-2010, 11:38 AM
OK, so last night I watched what appeared to be a scrimmage. When does the actual Saints-Texans preseason game start?

What a train wreck that was. Absolute garbage.

I think what suprised me the most was the way they were able to run on our 1st team defense. Our first team defense is better than that. They were just sloppy and mentally unprepared for this pre-season game is my opinion.

If Dallas does this to our first team defense, then I'll be officially worried. I'm going to just wait and grumble about until then.

GP
08-22-2010, 11:40 AM
I think what suprised me the most was the way they were able to run on our 1st team defense. Our first team defense is better than that. They were just sloppy and mentally unprepared for this pre-season game is my opinion.

If Dallas does this to our first team defense, then I'll be officially worried. I'm going to just wait and grumble about until then.

I hear ya'.

I'm not spending much time today on posting about the Saints game. There's nothing more to say on it. Hardly any of our players appeared to be dialed into the game last night. So there's nothing to really examine or debate.

ArlingtonTexan
08-22-2010, 12:31 PM
I think what suprised me the most was the way they were able to run on our 1st team defense. Our first team defense is better than that. They were just sloppy and mentally unprepared for this pre-season game is my opinion.

If Dallas does this to our first team defense, then I'll be officially worried. I'm going to just wait and grumble about until then.

There is truth to this. Dallas first team offense has scored only one TD in three pre-seaon game and that on a 8 yeard drive, set-up by a turnover. The offense line is banged up and neither pass not run is working at all.

J_R
08-22-2010, 12:42 PM
Just about everything you needed to know about the Texans vs. Saints can be summed up by the Saints first drive of the game.

On their opening drive, the Saints cut through the Texans defense like a hot knife through butter with a combination of power, misdirection, traps, and cutbacks.

If you have the game DVR'd check out these plays (and then I recommend hitting the delete button):

13:11 of the first quarter, Saints 2nd and 6 from their own 43, If this is an example of the lighter, quicker Amobi Okoye, we are in deep trouble. Saints left guard Carl Nicks, who goes somewhere around 340, stood up (ate up) 290 lb. Amobi Okoye on a pass block that reminded me of the days when I tried to take on my older brother in the backyard.

12:55 Saints 3rd and 6 from their own 43 (the next play). Saints strong left, single setback (Bush). Texans in a nickel with Barwin, Smith, Okoye and Mario on the DL, Cushing and DeMeco at LB. Corners man up on the X, Y, and Z receivers and Wilson and Pollard in a cover-2. Cushing sets up 5 yds deep off the center and 59 is to his right over the TE. Barwin standing up - outside shoulder of RT, Smith playing the 1-tech (right shoulder of center). At the snap, Bush moves right to take a delayed handoff from Brees but Smith inexplicably crashes hard on the A-gap making him easy fodder for a guard trap (which is exactly what happened). Barwin bit on a 'pass block look' by Saints right tackle Zach Streif and took a hard outside rush - and in the process took himself completely out of the play, parting the Red Sea on the left side of the Texans defense. With Barwin out of the play, Streif was able to get downfield and block Brian Cushing. Pollard was deep (over the top help for Brice McCain who was man up on Marques Colston) and eventually came over to make the tackle but not after an 8 yard gain and a first down.

Another 3rd and 6 for the Saints at around the 11:00 minute mark gave the Texans another opportunity to get off the field. Texans show blitz and the Saints isolate Jeremy Shockey on Bernard Pollard. Pollard can't keep up with Shockey and as a result commits an ugly pass interference, extending the Saints drive.

On the ensuing 1st and 10, the Saints line up in an offset-I, lead back right, TE left, two WRs right. Antonio Smith is at RDE lined up at the 5-tech between the TE and LT. Earl Mitchell is head up on the LG. At the snap, the flow is to the right and Mitchell gets caught inside by Saints LT Jermon Bushrod, Smith gets a light chip from the TE and doesn't see Brees handoff to Pierre Thomas who starts right and then cuts back against the flow for another huge run.

After two more big gains helped by poor tackling by the Texans, the Saints lined up for a first and goal at the 9 yard line. Defensive tackle remains a major weakness on the Texans and this play was a good example why. Shaun Cody lined up at the 1-technique (center's left shoulder), and Amobi at the 3-tech ( RG's right shoulder). DeMeco was 5 yards deep over center. At the snap, the center takes Cody left and out of the play. The Saints RG lets Amobi come through clean (football instincts should kick in here) and he's easily trapped by the LG who fired over at the snap. Meanwhile, the Saints RG, Jahri Evans (all 318 lbs of him), makes a beeline for Ryans and takes him out of the play while Zach Streif takes out Brian Cushing.

The Texans offense scored four times in nine drives but their longest drive of the night was 3:53 and they lost the time-of-possession game by a whopping 40:00 to 20:00. The Texans had two lost fumbles (Foster and Holliday) and picked off the Saints one time (Clark).

The Texans were two for three in redzone efficiency but allowed the Saints to score four out of five times they visited the redzone


http://www.examiner.com/mma-in-houston/texans-are-one-big-easy-for-saints

Paul Kuharsky (http://espn.go.com/blog/afcsouth/post/_/id/14200/thoughts-on-saints-38-texans-20):

Impressive:
Neil Rackers
Steve Slaton
Danny Clark
Dan Orlovsky

Disappointing:
Defense
Interior D-line
Arian Foster
Texans
Pass Defense
Trindon Holliday
Texans O

OzzO
08-22-2010, 12:51 PM
Post game quotes (http://www.houstontexans.com/news/Story.asp?story_id=6300)

Holliday has a hurt thumb? Better get it fixed quick 'cause Slaton, Jones, and McManis all did well.

Kubiak (on rookie returner Trindon Holliday) "We are trying to find out if he can play with his thumb. We put him back there, and he practiced all week, but obviously it is a problem. If he can't hang on to the ball, we need to find somebody else to do it. He is obviously struggling with the thumb, in fairness to him."

(on the Texans' return game) "I was real impressed with Steve Slaton going back there. I was real impressed with (Sherrick) McManis, I thought he looked good. Jeremiah (Johnson) goes back at the end. I think we have some options there....

(on injuries to the Texans) "Danny Clark looks like the biggest one. He has some type of knee strain."

(on the severity of Danny Clark's injury) "No, I don't. I know he is the most significant of anybody that came out of the game. How bad? I don't know."

(Another area of game notes mentions :Clark "looks like he has some type of knee strain," per Kubiak)


Didn't see anything on AJ - so whatever happened must be fine.

Matt Schaub (on his reaction to the loss) "I don't think we have to panic. We still have two more preseason games to go and I feel we will be ready for the beginning of the season. I know a lot of us here in the locker room feel we could have had more intensity, but I'm not worried. We had a great week of practice. Now all we have to do is make sure we are ready once the real game begins."

J_R
08-22-2010, 04:50 PM
Kubiak conference just awhile ago:

Danny Clark status?

Lost some players with Adibi and Danny there for some time last week. Questionable going into next weeks game. Had bumps and bruises. Sprained knee basically

How did Spencer workout go?

Didnt go to it. Briefly talked to Rick. Worked out him and Ephraim. Just wanted to work them out should something come up later.

Seen enough from Earl to give him reps at 1?

He's getting reps there with 1s. He's playing and good level. Deserves more time. Sees how it goes.

Like what you saw from Steve Slaton?

Looked good out there. Looked at few guys for KR. Trindon had some issues. Gotta look at other guys.

How much do you look at this as it's just preseason and how much concern is there?

Got pushed around. They controlled clock. Wasnt good. Our attention to detail, effort, not what it needs to be. Got things to fix, issues to attend to.

Offensively, what did NO do?

Kept pounding away. Couldnt get off the field on 3rd down.

How did you feel about Wade?

Started the game, rotated some guys. Excellent chance to be a fine player.

K competition?

Both were good. Disappointing on kickoff. Both are better than that. New week ahead.

What is wrong with Holliday's thumb?

Def. an issue. Got ligament issue. Not sure what. Doctors thought he could play through. Handled well in practice, not in game. He will see a doc tomorrow.

How did yall turn it around last year after the bad start?

We stopped the run and didnt do that last night. They ran the ball well. Couldnt get off the field.

Surprised Daniel played well?

Looked good in practice. Makes good, quick decisions.

Now you're on national TV against America's team. What will you tell team?

Better not have to tell them anything. Spend a lot of time talking about issues we have, preparing for game, etc.

Unhappy with a lot of practices this year?

I wouldnt say that. Thought we had good practices against NO.

Is there anyone in front 7 that did something good?

Earl shows up with effort. Frank made some nice plays but hard to go anywhere when they ran the ball so well. Troy continues to stand out. Kareem was solid.

What was Nolan doing?

Aggressive. SOlid tackler. Our concern was mental aspect but hes showing progress.

[missed question]
I dont think we tackled well. They're gonna make plays. We didnt tackle well in space as a group. We couldnt get off the field. Too easy for them. Nothing scheme wise.

Dan O take another step forward?

Continues to improve. #s were good. I'm always on him. I want to see him become great, not just ok. I'll keep pushing him

Briesel at C? Status?

Mike was sick last week. Want him to work at G and battle there. Wanted to see him play C since Helms is out. Who is our backup C, who is our swing guy, etc. He played ok.

Other injuries?

Barwin, Bentley had ankle soreness. Should be fine. General soreness. Sharpton got a knee bruise, should be fine, Mario ankle sore, should be fine.. Decision time on Cushing situation soon.

[missed question]
Thought he would be back this week. Had a setback. Will let you know's later(assume Adibi?)Edit: It is Adibi.
McClain_on_NFL (http://twitter.com/McClain_on_NFL)

Texans were hoping to get back OLB Xavier Adibi but he's suffered setback with groin injury and won't be available.


What will tell you you're ready next week?

1s will play 3 Q's. We'll see where we're at.



"If we have the right guys, then they'll come back and play a lot better this week." - Coach Kubiak