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Cjeremy635
08-02-2010, 03:41 PM
No problem. It was a nice way to finish a short vacation. Friday, Saturday and Sunday where the first practices I've missed in a few years, but a little R&R on the beach was much needed.

Yeah, I went Friday and it was great. I would have liked to have gone back when they put the pads on, but you know how work is. :gun:

Regardless, only 12 days until our first preseason game. How f'in AWESOME is that!?!?!?!

:splits:

gary
08-02-2010, 03:42 PM
I saw him up close today it's there.

JB
08-02-2010, 03:47 PM
I saw him up close today it's there.

So are you saying he's bigger, or smaller or what?

Cjeremy635
08-02-2010, 03:54 PM
So are you saying he's bigger, or smaller or what?

He's saying he's smaller.

gary
08-02-2010, 03:54 PM
So are you saying he's bigger, or smaller or what?Smaller. Mom and I said to him you don't like quite the same and he basically said yhea. The good news is he is stll on his game pretty much and has my full support.

gary
08-02-2010, 04:08 PM
Sorry guys, perhaps I should not have brought this up it's no big deal I still love Cushing and think he's still going to a good player. I did not mean to start any debates once again. I hope you guys understand.

bignasty
08-02-2010, 04:10 PM
He should look slightly leaner(less bulk) due to MA training all off-season

gary
08-02-2010, 04:14 PM
Did not mean much by my comment. Sorry.

Cjeremy635
08-02-2010, 04:19 PM
Did not mean much by my comment. Sorry.

Don't be sorry, nobody is jumping on you. Everyone is going to have an opinion about how he looks or how his game is. The guy is under a microscope for what happened.

gary
08-02-2010, 04:35 PM
Don't be sorry, nobody is jumping on you. Everyone is going to have an opinion about how he looks or how his game is. The guy is under a microscope for what happened.Yhea, and it might be a combo of the offseason training and being off the PED's all together but to be truthful I am not sure.

76Texan
08-02-2010, 04:52 PM
:slapfight::hunter:

kiwitexansfan
08-02-2010, 04:57 PM
Some camp comments, some general news reporting in the chronic 8-2-10 (http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/fb/texansfront/7135113.html). And by general... don't mean McClain.

Love this snippet, I was SUPER high on Caldwell last year and need a lineman to become my favourite player now Pitts is gone.

kiwitexansfan
08-02-2010, 05:02 PM
Yhea, and it might be a combo of the offseason training and being off the PED's all together but to be truthful I am not sure.

Just for clarification has it been said that Cushing's suspension is for PEDs?

There are many banned substances that are not steroids.

Austrian
08-02-2010, 05:06 PM
Just for clarification has it been said that Cushing's suspension is for PEDs?

There are many banned substances that are not steroids.

He had a high hCG level in his blood and hCG can be used to get the testosterone levels back to normal after a PED circle.

rmartin65
08-02-2010, 05:09 PM
So when are the cut dates?

gary
08-02-2010, 05:11 PM
Just for clarification has it been said that Cushing's suspension is for PEDs?

There are many banned substances that are not steroids.
It's not quite PED's but a banned NFL substance here is what I have.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5172060

gary
08-02-2010, 05:13 PM
He had a high hCG level in his blood and hCG can be used to get the testosterone levels back to normal after a PED circle.Thanks.

dalemurphy
08-02-2010, 05:13 PM
So when are the cut dates?

There is a cutdown to 75 after the Cowboys game, I think: August 28th or 29th... then the cutdown to 53 is the day after Tampa, on September 3rd, I think.

IDEXAN
08-02-2010, 05:28 PM
Smaller. Mom and I said to him you don't like quite the same and he basically said yhea. The good news is he is stll on his game pretty much and has my full support.
Dang Gary, thanks, finally for the clarification because you had me going. I couldn't figure out if you're perception of him was as smaller or larger ?
I do know the Texans main web site lists him at 259, but they listed him at 263 at the end of last year, but I don't think you were talking about a mere 4 lbs ?
On another subject, I know it's early but does anyone have any concerns about our # 1 pick ? And wasn't one of the reasons for taking this particular corner was he had 30 starts (or was it 40 ?) in a big-time program in a big-time conference ? IIRC our 4th and 6th round cornerback draft picks (Quin & McCain) from last year each had a more auspicious start than Jackson ?

Honoring Earl 34
08-02-2010, 05:32 PM
Did not mean much by my comment. Sorry.

Gary ... you just think Cushing's smaller cause I was next to him .

gary
08-02-2010, 05:38 PM
Did you all think Brian's skin color had changed or maybe he turned into a girl? Lol, I am just joking.

Cjeremy635
08-02-2010, 06:01 PM
Dang Gary, thanks, finally for the clarification because you had me going. I couldn't figure out if you're perception of him was as smaller or larger ?
I do know the Texans main web site lists him at 259, but they listed him at 263 at the end of last year, but I don't think you were talking about a mere 4 lbs ?
On another subject, I know it's early but does anyone have any concerns about our # 1 pick ? And wasn't one of the reasons for taking this particular corner was he had 30 starts (or was it 40 ?) in a big-time program in a big-time conference ? IIRC our 4th and 6th round cornerback draft picks (Quin & McCain) from last year each had a more auspicious start than Jackson ?

It's a tough call. He's still green, but he's going against the best in the league....and AJ will make anyone look like a scrub. He's going to have to learn a lot in a short amount of time, but I don't think we'll get a clearer idea until the preseason starts and we can see him against normal receivers. I hope he turns out to be awesome, but I don't think he'll be a candidate for ROTY or anything like that. I think it'll be a feast or famine type thing with him. He'll do really bad and then really good. Hopefully he'll find that middle ground soon.

dalemurphy
08-02-2010, 06:08 PM
It's a tough call. He's still green, but he's going against the best in the league....and AJ will make anyone look like a scrub. He's going to have to learn a lot in a short amount of time, but I don't think we'll get a clearer idea until the preseason starts and we can see him against normal receivers. I hope he turns out to be awesome, but I don't think he'll be a candidate for ROTY or anything like that. I think it'll be a feast or famine type thing with him. He'll do really bad and then really good. Hopefully he'll find that middle ground soon.

I think it's impossible to judge a rookie one week into training camp. Obviously, I'd love to see him picking off passes and not gettin burned. But, aside from poor workout habits and being uncoachable, I wouldn't think any alarms are going to go off in the coaches heads just yet.

J_R
08-02-2010, 07:06 PM
NickScurfield (http://twitter.com/NickScurfield)
Martinez injured his hamstring on Saturday. Rookie WR Trindon Holliday is also out w/ a hamstring injury, leaving Texans w/ 7 healthy WRs

NickScurfield (http://twitter.com/NickScurfield)
The Texans have placed WR Glenn Martinez on injured reserve and signed WR London Crawford, whom they released on June 16

NickScurfield (http://twitter.com/NickScurfield)

Head coach Gary Kubiak says 3rd-rd pick DT Earl Mitchell "looks like a heck of a draft choice." He's been impressive in camp. #Texans (http://twitter.com/search?q=%23Texans)

drs23
08-02-2010, 07:13 PM
NickScurfield (http://twitter.com/NickScurfield)
Martinez injured his hamstring on Saturday. Rookie WR Trindon Holliday is also out w/ a hamstring injury, leaving Texans w/ 7 healthy WRs

NickScurfield (http://twitter.com/NickScurfield)
The Texans have placed WR Glenn Martinez on injured reserve and signed WR London Crawford, whom they released on June 16

NickScurfield (http://twitter.com/NickScurfield)

Head coach Gary Kubiak says 3rd-rd pick DT Earl Mitchell "looks like a heck of a draft choice." He's been impressive in camp. #Texans (http://twitter.com/search?q=%23Texans)


Is this a way to put off cutting him? IR doesn't count against the roster, eh?

J_R
08-02-2010, 07:16 PM
Is this a way to put off cutting him? IR doesn't count against the roster, eh?

Put off cutting him? Ehh I dont know about that. Anyhow, he's on IR now and is done for the season. And no, he doesnt count against the roster now that he's on IR. Crawford takes his spot on the 80 man roster. Expect Crawford to be cut come roster cut time ;)

The Pencil Neck
08-02-2010, 07:20 PM
Since he's on IR, that frees up a roster spot... hence our signing of Crawford.

But the only real reason Martinez was on the team was because of his special teams ability. Odds are, he was not going to make the team this year anyway. WR spots are like platinum this year. You've got to be a monstah to grab a spot on our WR corp.

J_R
08-02-2010, 07:33 PM
Rookie watch: Earl Mitchell (http://www.houstontexans.com/blog/index.asp?post_id=1280)

mexican_texan
08-03-2010, 01:50 AM
Did you all think Brian's skin color had changed or maybe he turned into a girl? Lol, I am just joking.

It's just GTL. He's from Jersey after all.

J_R
08-03-2010, 08:43 AM
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/fb/texansfront/7136502.html

Learning from the best

Rookie cornerback Kareem Jackson is getting a lot of practice time against receiver Andre Johnson. The idea is if Jackson, the first-round pick, can stick with Johnson, he can cover anyone.

"You've got to think about who (opposing receivers) we're getting him ready to play against," coach Gary Kubiak said. "We're going to line him up against No. 80 all day long.

"I told him in front of his teammates yesterday, 'A lot of guys might get a false impression where they're at as a player. You won't have that when you come out this camp because you'll working against one of the best.'"

M. Williams M.I.A

Defensive end Mario Williams missed another practice because of a hip injury. He got an injection in his hip. His status is day-to-day.

"He had the injection this morning," coach Gary Kubiak said. "We'll watch it (swelling in his hip) through (today) I'm sure. We've got to get the inflammation out of his hip. If we could do that, we'd feel better about putting him back to work.

"The bottom line it's too early in this thing. We going to get exactly the way we want it before we proceed forward. It's a preventative thing more than anything."

Slaton starting strong

Third-year running back Steve Slaton is off to a strong start in camp. He's showing no signs of the neck surgery he underwent in the offseason. He's trying to get back his starting job from Arian Foster.

Slaton is also returning kickoffs in practice.

"I've been impressed by the way he's been working," coach Gary Kubiak said. "We we have him back there working as a kick returner now. I think he's himself. He's got his confidence back. He enjoys being out here. I think that's important."

London calling

London Crawford, a 6-2, 203-pound wide receiver from Arkansas, was signed on Monday.

Glenn Martinez, who made the team as a backup receiver and return man last season, was placed on injured reserve because of a hamstring injury.

Mitchell 'explosive'

Defensive tackleEarl Mitchell, the Houstonian drafted in the third round out of Arizona, continues to impressive his teammates and coaches with his quickness, his athleticism and his relentlessness.

"He's built in a way that's kind of tough to stop if you're explosive," offensive tackle Eric Winston said. "He's a big (6-3, 300) defensive tackle, but he's got a low center of gravity.

He's going to be a tough player to stop because he's explosive off the ball. It's hard to get under him. He's going to be able to get some push. He's all about working, staying in it, not looking too far ahead."


Brown and Rackers go head to head

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/fb/texansfront/7136481.html

HOU-TEX
08-03-2010, 10:14 AM
I think Holliday ends up on the IR. Unless he's able to turn things around I just can't justify giving him a roster spot at this time. Placing him on the IR will keep him out of the reach of the other teams and allow him to concentrate on his job for next year.

Just a random thought. :)

Rey
08-03-2010, 10:34 AM
I think Holliday ends up on the IR. Unless he's able to turn things around I just can't justify giving him a roster spot at this time. Placing him on the IR will keep him out of the reach of the other teams and allow him to concentrate on his job for next year.

Just a random thought. :)

That may indeed happen...But...

If Little dude gets healthy in time to return a few kicks during the pre-season I don't think they will be able to keep him off the active roster...Unless they are just "faking" this whole hamstring thing as a ploy to get him on IR, I don't think they will be able to keep him off the roster...

Hands down, he is the best return man on the team...

If he shows that he's healthy enough, I think that it will benefit us a lot to go ahead an use his abilities.

I know a lot of people want to see him "do something else", but personally, I like players who are outstanding, no matter where their outstanding talents may lie. We kept a guy who just long snapped for years...The Bears initially just used Hester as a return man and he was definitely a game changing weapon. If we can eliminate the "long snapper" position and replace it with "return man" then I'm all for it.

Also, I do not know if I want Andre Davis on this roster anymore...Maybe we can trade him for something...

Brisco_County
08-03-2010, 12:03 PM
I think Holliday ends up on the IR. Unless he's able to turn things around I just can't justify giving him a roster spot at this time. Placing him on the IR will keep him out of the reach of the other teams and allow him to concentrate on his job for next year.

Just a random thought. :)

He'll be valuable as a return man. They won't keep him out a year just because he's not ready for WR.

kiwitexansfan
08-03-2010, 12:51 PM
Also, I do not know if I want Andre Davis on this roster anymore...Maybe we can trade him for something...

Andre Davis has a large cap number this year, I can't see him not getting cut even if it is only a money saving measure.

He is the 8th highest paid player with $3,450,000 being owed this year. You don't pay that sort of money to a backup WR and an average return man.

ObsiWan
08-03-2010, 01:00 PM
Originally Posted by GP http://www.texanstalk.com/forums/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.texanstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1483754#post1483754)
So....if JDB gets called upon to enter the game as our QB, is that technically considered "A Booty Call"?

:bender:

When he's traded , does that mean the Texans gave up the Booty ?

Stop it.

Stop it right now!
:spit:

J_R
08-03-2010, 01:23 PM
NickScurfield (https://twitter.com/NickScurfield)
The Texans' kicking competition between Kris Brown and Neil Rackers began today in front of the team. Brown: 5-of-6. Rackers: 6-of-6

NickScurfield (https://twitter.com/NickScurfield)
Brown's miss was close, hooked just left and maybe a bit short from 43 yards. Texans coach Gary Kubiak was impressed w/ both kickers today

Kaiser Toro
08-03-2010, 02:21 PM
I wonder if this is the first year Kubiak has watched kicks during TC.

beerlover
08-03-2010, 02:22 PM
NickScurfield (https://twitter.com/NickScurfield)
The Texans' kicking competition between Kris Brown and Neil Rackers began today in front of the team. Brown: 5-of-6. Rackers: 6-of-6

NickScurfield (https://twitter.com/NickScurfield)
Brown's miss was close, hooked just left and maybe a bit short from 43 yards. Texans coach Gary Kubiak was impressed w/ both kickers today

you mean he actually watched this time?

ChampionTexan
08-03-2010, 02:31 PM
I think Holliday ends up on the IR. Unless he's able to turn things around I just can't justify giving him a roster spot at this time. Placing him on the IR will keep him out of the reach of the other teams and allow him to concentrate on his job for next year.

Just a random thought. :)

IR means he can't participate in any practices (well, not without violating NFL rules anyway). I don't think that really does much for Holliday, or the Texans.

He was taken at the tail end of the 6th round. If he doesn't show enough to actually make the Texans 53 man squad, I seriously doubt that he will have shown enough to make the teams who passed on him 5 or 6 times get rid of someone who would otherwise make their 53 man roster just to bring him in.

dalemurphy
08-03-2010, 02:42 PM
http://www.texansbullblog.com/?p=480&preview=true

Here's a pretty good picture of Frank Okam... For those of you that haven't seen... He's a little hefty!

HOU-TEX
08-03-2010, 03:09 PM
IR means he can't participate in any practices (well, not without violating NFL rules anyway). I don't think that really does much for Holliday, or the Texans.

He was taken at the tail end of the 6th round. If he doesn't show enough to actually make the Texans 53 man squad, I seriously doubt that he will have shown enough to make the teams who passed on him 5 or 6 times get rid of someone who would otherwise make their 53 man roster just to bring him in.

I'm aware he can't practice with the team. It doesn't mean he can't practice by himself, back at LSU or another training facility. Supposedly Troy Nolan worked his butt off when he was IR'd.

It was a random thought I had, geez. IMO, IRing a player just seems like a good way to shelf a player without other teams getting him

PockyAF
08-03-2010, 07:09 PM
The Texans' kicking competition between Kris Brown and Neil Rackers began today in front of the team. Brown: 5-of-6. Rackers: 6-of-6

http://handsfrozentothesword.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/gladiator1.jpg

This is some serious business.

GP
08-03-2010, 07:27 PM
I wonder if this is the first year Kubiak has watched kicks during TC.

Well, it was only practice and not an actual game. So I'm sure he was watching.

GP
08-03-2010, 07:31 PM
IR means he can't participate in any practices (well, not without violating NFL rules anyway). I don't think that really does much for Holliday, or the Texans.

He was taken at the tail end of the 6th round. If he doesn't show enough to actually make the Texans 53 man squad, I seriously doubt that he will have shown enough to make the teams who passed on him 5 or 6 times get rid of someone who would otherwise make their 53 man roster just to bring him in.

JJ will not be returning punts and kicks, if I remember what some other posters had learned from Kubiak's statements around the time of the draft.

So that means someone has to do it. I think Trin makes the roster. He won't clear waivers if he's cut, IMO, so Practice Squad is not really an option. This will especially be true if he busts open several nice-looking punt returns in preseason. He'll have put himself on the radar of about 31 other NFL teams if he hits the waiver wire at final cuts. Every team looks for an edge, and I think Trin's punt return skills do exactly that. There were times when punters were shanking kicks out of bounds just to avoid letting Jacoby get a return off it.

The return game, especially on punts, is huge for us. Jacoby's punt returns have maneuvered us into great field position in the past. If we don't put Trin out there as at least a punt returner, then someone has a screw loose. Period.

Kimmy
08-04-2010, 12:34 PM
Went to the Battle Red Ladies practice today. I was watching OD run laps around the track, and his right calf looks a LOT smaller than his left. I took some video and pics, will try to post after the upload.

He came over after practice, said he was working hard to get back.

D. Brown came over (gave me his gloves), Trindon Holliday, Jacoby Jones, Kareem Jackson and a few others also came over.

The body language between the kickers is chilly, K Brown was always watching Rackers, he would turn his head to see if it was good. You can tell they are both competing.

It was really nice, no more than 50 people there.

Kimmy
08-04-2010, 12:52 PM
Quick video of Owen Daniels running during todays practice (8/4) (http://qik.com/video/10189197)

Rest of todays pics are here (http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=194266&id=678819590&l=ecb575937d)

ChampionTexan
08-04-2010, 01:40 PM
I'm aware he can't practice with the team. It doesn't mean he can't practice by himself, back at LSU or another training facility. Supposedly Troy Nolan worked his butt off when he was IR'd.

It was a random thought I had, geez. IMO, IRing a player just seems like a good way to shelf a player without other teams getting him

It wasn't my intent to ridicule the idea, I'm just saying if he can't make our 53 man roster as a returner, I don't think he's at risk of getting picked up by anyone else, and I'd much rather have him getting NFL coaching and NFL mentoring then heading off on his own.

HOU-TEX
08-04-2010, 02:18 PM
It wasn't my intent to ridicule the idea, I'm just saying if he can't make our 53 man roster as a returner, I don't think he's at risk of getting picked up by anyone else, and I'd much rather have him getting NFL coaching and NFL mentoring then heading off on his own.

I know, bro, it's coo. It's definitely going to be interesting to see how they hold on to Holiday, Dickerson and even Shelly Smith. I reckon it's a positive thing. We now have decent depth, making it more difficult for players to make the team.

It was just a random thought I had by shelving him on IR. Odds are, it'll end up being a dumb and useless thought. :)

Rey
08-04-2010, 02:30 PM
It wasn't my intent to ridicule the idea, I'm just saying if he can't make our 53 man roster as a returner, I don't think he's at risk of getting picked up by anyone else

I disagree...

If we cut Holiday, there is no way he makes it through waivers.

Kaiser Toro
08-04-2010, 02:45 PM
I know, bro, it's coo. It's definitely going to be interesting to see how they hold on to Holiday, Dickerson and even Shelly Smith. I reckon it's a positive thing. We now have decent depth, making it more difficult for players to make the team.

It was just a random thought I had by shelving him on IR. Odds are, it'll end up being a dumb and useless thought. :)

I thought about stashing him on Reserve PUP. He would lose three weeks of in season practice, but it gives everyone time to make the call for activation in week 7.

HOU-TEX
08-04-2010, 05:12 PM
I didn't want to start a new thread for this, but finally, the Texans preseason games will be in HD. I remember bitching last year of the poor quality.

"We are pleased to be taking a big step forward for our fans as we present our preseason games in high definition with new music, graphics and animations," Texans president Jamey Rootes said. "The passion for our team in Houston and across the region is at an all-time high, and we think that our broadcast upgrades, especially HD, will provide an even more exciting and engaging viewing experience for our fans."

http://www.houstontexans.com/news/Story.asp?story_id=6248

spurstexanstros
08-04-2010, 05:14 PM
How does tate look?

HOU-TEX
08-04-2010, 05:24 PM
How does tate look?

Good, but Foster looks much better. Things might change, but it'll be tough to unseat Foster as the starter at this point.

J_R
08-04-2010, 06:38 PM
NickScurfield (http://twitter.com/NickScurfield)
Just announced: The Texans have signed FB Jack Corcoran and placed FB Justin Griffith on IR w/ a spinal cord concussion/contusion

Ryan
08-05-2010, 01:29 AM
Anyone going to the Saturday practice? I shall be returning for the last open practice :fans:

Cjeremy635
08-05-2010, 10:13 AM
I didn't want to start a new thread for this, but finally, the Texans preseason games will be in HD. I remember bitching last year of the poor quality.



http://www.houstontexans.com/news/Story.asp?story_id=6248

Now if they can only keep Bob Allen from talking through the entire game. I swear that those guys could really care less about the game, as long as they get their "air time".

jaayteetx
08-05-2010, 10:15 AM
NickScurfield (http://twitter.com/NickScurfield)
Just announced: The Texans have signed FB Jack Corcoran and placed FB Justin Griffith on IR w/ a spinal cord concussion/contusion

ouch, that sounds bad.

HOU-TEX
08-05-2010, 10:26 AM
Now if they can only keep Bob Allen from talking through the entire game. I swear that those guys could really care less about the game, as long as they get their "air time".

Ha, yeah, that group is horrible. I can barely handle Joel Meyers, but Spencer Tillman is bad, real bad. I wonder if he uses the ol "apple and a road map" phrase? Betcha he does...

Austrian
08-05-2010, 10:32 AM
http://www.houstontexans.com/tv/index.asp?mm_file_id=4195&play_clip=y

HT.com Training camp live.

ObsiWan
08-05-2010, 05:00 PM
Anyone going to the Saturday practice? I shall be returning for the last open practice :fans:

I'm going to try and make it. Got my reservation printed out.

HouSportsWriter
08-05-2010, 05:08 PM
ryan im going maby we can meet up =d

Texan_Bill
08-05-2010, 05:10 PM
At 23 I had already served my country and then went off to school.


The other thing I would say to Amobi is that "You are paid a lot of money to produce - not make excuses".

SheTexan
08-05-2010, 05:17 PM
At 23 I had already served my country and then went off to school.


The other thing I would say to Amobi is that "You are paid a lot of money to produce - not make excuses".


Making excuses comes with the generation Amobi was born in Bill! He probably thinks he IS productive, just because he gets up in the morning and goes to camp. We owe him don't ya know! That seems to be the general attitude of kids these days. They want it all, but, only want to do half the work to get it.

Rey
08-05-2010, 05:43 PM
"From what I've seen so far, there is absolutely no problem with his strength. In fact, this camp compared to camp last year, he's playing quite a bit stronger. He's playing with better leverage, better technique. Again, it's always the same thing: We need to keep working to get better pass-rush techniques. But the way he's been playing the run, I'm really pretty pleased with how he's doing."
- Kollar on DT Amobi Okoye, who reported to camp at 283 pounds, 13 pounds lighter than his playing weight in 2009

http://www.houstontexans.com/news/Story.asp?story_id=6251

MojoMan
08-05-2010, 05:57 PM
A few words from Kubiak on Dan Orlovsky in the same article.

http://www.houstontexans.com/news/Story.asp?story_id=6251

"Up and down" was how Kubiak described the play of backup quarterback Dan Orlovsky, who signed last year as a free agent from the Detroit Lions. Orlovsky lost the No. 2 job to Rex Grossman in 2009 after a shaky preseason, but he has made strides in the Texans' offense in his second offseason in Houston. "He's doing a lot of the things much better than he did last year," Kubiak said. "There are still some lapses from the standpoint of being consistent, but when you're the guy that's not playing a lot every day, that's usually what happens. He's just got to find that level of consistency with his amount of reps."

From this and some comments I heard on the radio from someone reporting from training camp, it sounds like Orlovsky has been spotty at best. Hopefully Dan-O is able to pull it together during the rest of the preseason.

GlassHalfFull
08-05-2010, 06:02 PM
I am going to tonight's training camp. Debating about taking my camera, but will probably break down and take it.

From what I remember, you can bring your own water in, is that true?

And, who else is going to be there tonight? I am excited about getting my first taste of Texan's football for the season.

Maddict5
08-05-2010, 07:10 PM
haha what an awesome joke by kubiak giving trindon this instead of a stationary bike

http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt288/Maddict5/600xPopupGallery.jpg

drs23
08-05-2010, 08:26 PM
haha what an awesome joke by kubiak giving trindon this instead of a stationary bike

http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt288/Maddict5/600xPopupGallery.jpg

How do we know Kubiak did it?

TexanSam
08-05-2010, 08:49 PM
I'll be going to training camp on Saturday. How early should I get there for those who have gone this year? Has it filled up pretty quickly due to the printed tickets?

ObsiWan
08-05-2010, 08:57 PM
haha what an awesome joke by kubiak giving trindon this instead of a stationary bike

http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt288/Maddict5/600xPopupGallery.jpg
I don't know what's funnier, the little trike (note the pink pedals:) ) or the fact that Trin actually fits on it.
:lol:

Maddict5
08-05-2010, 09:49 PM
How do we know Kubiak did it?

well thats what trindon said he was told when he asked around (in the quotes yest i think).. just realised i missed the thread on it and im a day late :spin:

redwhiteANDblue
08-05-2010, 10:09 PM
I'll be going to training camp on Saturday. How early should I get there for those who have gone this year? Has it filled up pretty quickly due to the printed tickets?

Yeah I have the same question. What time should I bee there to get good seats? The day I went, the seats were all taken and I had to stand by the endzone and couldn't see much.

Rey
08-05-2010, 10:55 PM
Yeah I have the same question. What time should I bee there to get good seats? The day I went, the seats were all taken and I had to stand by the endzone and couldn't see much.

Depends on if you want to sit down or not...If you want to watch the big boys then you can walk around on the track and stand up...

The practice I went to wasn't too crowded and towards the end it was clearing out and plenty seats were available.

If you want an indication of how crowded it's going to be look at the Texans website and if the practice date doesn't say "sold out" then it probably won't be as crowded.

gary
08-06-2010, 09:34 AM
Number 15 has great hair and hands at the same time it's great. AJ had a few long bombs night he's just an all out freak but we already knew that.

Mike Kerns
08-06-2010, 10:03 AM
Funniest pictures I took last night

Pollard "coaching up" Brice McCain:
http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r289/Zepp1978/DSCF2753.jpg

McCain argues back:
http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r289/Zepp1978/DSCF2752.jpg

Pollard telling McCain to watch it or he'll knock the piss outta him:
http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r289/Zepp1978/DSCF2751.jpg

Pollard telling him some more after he walked away:
http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r289/Zepp1978/DSCF2750.jpg

No wonder Pollard is a fan favorite...

Mike Kerns
08-06-2010, 10:04 AM
Number 15 has great hair and hands at the same time it's great. AJ had a few long bombs night he's just an all out freak but we already knew that.

Pretty sure I was standing right next to you last night, Gary.

False Start
08-06-2010, 10:09 AM
No wonder Pollard is a fan favorite...

I wonder if McCain had piss running down his leg? :ahhaha:

SheTexan
08-06-2010, 10:16 AM
Yeah I have the same question. What time should I bee there to get good seats? The day I went, the seats were all taken and I had to stand by the endzone and couldn't see much.

I went last night, sold out crowd, and had no problem finding a good seat. I got there after they opened the gates and right before practice started. ONLY problem was finding parking! What a biatch!! Finally had to double park at the end of a row. Very tempting to NOT key a few cars and trucks that took up two spaces! How RUDE and disrespectful!!

gary
08-06-2010, 10:20 AM
Pretty sure I was standing right next to you last night, Gary.What do you look like?

False Start
08-06-2010, 10:22 AM
http://a.imageshack.us/img59/1530/pollardmccainpee.jpg

gary
08-06-2010, 10:24 AM
http://a.imageshack.us/img59/1530/pollardmccainpee.jpg
Where you there last night?

Mike Kerns
08-06-2010, 10:25 AM
http://a.imageshack.us/img59/1530/pollardmccainpee.jpg

LOL! Awesome! I approve of this modification.

Rep.

Mike Kerns
08-06-2010, 10:28 AM
What do you look like?

Just like the dude in my avatar.

JB
08-06-2010, 10:30 AM
Thanks for posting the pics Mike. Awesome!

Mike Kerns
08-06-2010, 10:31 AM
Thanks for posting the pics Mike. Awesome!

Plenty more here:

http://dontmesswithtexans.com/2010/08/06/rumblings-from-texans-training-camp-%e2%80%93-part-ii/

J_R
08-06-2010, 03:38 PM
From this morning's workout:


Texans coach Gary Kubiak (http://twitter.com/NickScurfield/status/20480039632)said it'll likely be until Monday when DE Mario Williams, DE Pannel Egboh and LB Danny Clark return to practice

LB Xavier Adibi (http://twitter.com/NickScurfield/status/20480427137) looks like he'll be out "a few weeks," per Kubiak. Brian Cushing will continue to start with the 1st team at SLB

HOU-TEX
08-06-2010, 04:48 PM
From what I understand from Kubiaks comments, tomorrow morning will be full pads.

JB
08-06-2010, 06:55 PM
Texans have added Monday am as another open practice

http://www.houstontexans.com/fanzone/2010TrainingCamp.asp

dalemurphy
08-06-2010, 07:02 PM
Texans have added Monday am as another open practice

http://www.houstontexans.com/fanzone/2010TrainingCamp.asp

awesome.

dalemurphy
08-06-2010, 07:04 PM
Plenty more here:

http://dontmesswithtexans.com/2010/08/06/rumblings-from-texans-training-camp-%e2%80%93-part-ii/

Thanks. Great pics!

by the way, I totally agree with you regarding the Schobel situation.

Lucky
08-06-2010, 07:05 PM
From what I understand from Kubiaks comments, tomorrow morning will be full pads.


http://www.rso.wmich.edu/ultimate/random/kool-aid-man.jpg

False Start
08-06-2010, 07:23 PM
LOL! Awesome! I approve of this modification.

Rep.

Thanks Frak! :cool:

J_R
08-07-2010, 12:46 AM
Unofficial depth chart out. Nothing surprising.

http://www.houstontexans.com/team/depthchart.html

The Pencil Neck
08-07-2010, 02:52 AM
Unofficial depth chart out. Nothing surprising.

http://www.houstontexans.com/team/depthchart.html

Actually, Deljuan Robinson behind Frank Okam is surprising. Most of the rest of it is as expected.

281
08-07-2010, 08:27 AM
i'm a little surprised to see reeves at third string behind molden... but it's encouraging to say the least.

76Texan
08-07-2010, 08:38 AM
I would like to ask the folks who went to TC if you've noticed whether we were in the 3-3 Defense some? And if so, who was doing what?

Any 3-4 at all?

MojoMan
08-07-2010, 08:52 AM
Unofficial depth chart out. Nothing surprising.

http://www.houstontexans.com/team/depthchart.html

In addition to Okam ahead of Robinson, and Molden ahead of Reeves, I am also surprised that Owen Daniels has been completely left off of the depth chart. There are several players with various injuries that are included on this chart, and Brian Cushing is on it, even though he will be out for the first four games. But Daniels is nowhere to be found. I am starting to get the sense that Owen Daniels could be out for a good while yet.

ChampionTexan
08-07-2010, 09:35 AM
In addition to Okam ahead of Robinson, and Molden ahead of Reeves, I am also surprised that Owen Daniels has been completely left off of the depth chart. There are several players with various injuries that are included on this chart, and Brian Cushing is on it, even though he will be out for the first four games. But Daniels is nowhere to be found. I am starting to get the sense that Owen Daniels could be out for a good while yet.

It might have more to do with him being on the Active PUP list, and therefore not available to practice/play until he's removed from it.

Given the Texans and Daniels have continued to maintain publicly that they are shooting for him to be ready in game 1, I doubt they'd leave him off the depth chart because they're concerned about a lengthier recovery time (even if they're concerned about a lengthier recovery time).

rmartin65
08-07-2010, 11:45 AM
Biggest surprise to me is Holliday being the 3rd string returner.

gary
08-07-2010, 12:35 PM
From what I have seen thus far Molden might start in game number one. Parsons has also looked good. I see Reevs as a keeper he played nicely last season he just has to remember to turn his head around which has always been the case with him and he's the only true vet CB left on the team. To this point I do not know if Jackson will start he has not shown a whole lot thus far but all of that may just change soon. There are five RB's on the roster I think the same three which are exspected to make the team pretty much will and one of the others are going to be placed on the PS for deapth purposes. If OD is ready to go at the start of the season then great but I'm not too worried about it some one will step in if a void remains to be open. The O line is pretty much a lock except for the LG spot between Casey and Mike but that is mainly because of Mike's foot is not holding up at this point. I see Jacoby Jones and Kevin Walter used as a 2a 2b type of combo with maybe Jones in the slot. The safties as you know are Wilson and Pollard follwed by Nolan and Barber just like it has been. I will tell you if Matt goes down this team is in deep doo doo no matter who the backup is because neither one of them compares to Matt even though right now I give the slight edge to Booty. Bye, Bye, Okam I hope.

small nizzle
08-07-2010, 01:24 PM
and the depth chart shows the ineptitude of the good ol boys smith and kubiak

first off many mistakes,

rackers should be ahead of brown by far ,and he isnt because of the money they gave brown

earl should be ahead of cody and okoye,and isnt because kubes is "loyal" to veterans

casey should be ahead of dreessen but isnt because of the denver ties of dreessen

reeves,molden,bennett should be ahead of kareem,but isnt because kareem might cry

white and smith should be ahead of myers but isnt because of denver ties again

barwin should be ahead of smith but isnt because of loyalty and money,and probably a under table promise

booty should be ahead of dan but isnt because of money paid to dan

basically ,half the chart is upsetting and wrong,and shows that denver,money,loyalty is more important than winning

thats why there isnt a playoff birth yet, bill cowher watch begins

ps:one schaub injury away from losing season

gary
08-07-2010, 01:32 PM
I think the roster is almost the same as 09 when we were just one win away from the playoffs. So, some just need to the facts.

Ryan
08-07-2010, 01:34 PM
Notes from today's practice:

Kareem Jackson certainly looked much better today. Got beat by AJ a few times, but that goes without saying, and got beat by K-Dub on a post route over the middle, but other than that looked much improved from the version i saw last week.

Glover Quin is still our #1 at this point in my opinion. Hopefully we won't keep the rookie on Reggie Wayne come week 1.

#42 Torri Williams had 2 picks today and another pass deflection. He was looking very promising, let's see if he makes the final cut.

Ben Tate looked much much better today as well. Got in and out of cuts very quickly and has the speed to match. Foster still looked the best, with Tate, Slaton, Henry, and J. Johnson following him.

In the kicking competition today, Rackers went 6-6 and Kris Brown went 4-6. They did one kick at 33, 38, 43, 48, and two at 53 from different angles. KB's misses came at 48 and 53 down the middle.

Orlovsky was making some solid throws, followed by some very questionable ones, like missing a wide open Chris Henry off of a play-action rollout. Didn't pay much attention when Booty was throwing.

Once again, failed to pay too much attention to the trenches, but no real excuses this time.

Barwin made a pick dropping into coverage today. Impressive, but not quite sure how i feel about him dropping into coverage in the first place.

Jacoby and K-Dub were neither really impressive today, but i think JJ looked better.

Dickerson blew by defenders on a streak route that got himself a TD...he keeps getting better and better. Didn't see too much today from Bobby Williams, the guy who Kubiak has been repping.

In other news, Pollard and Cushing knocked the piss out of people, Schaub looked good, and Andre Johnson is still a beast.

gary
08-07-2010, 01:39 PM
I am glad Jackson looked better today but I did not go today I'll be out there on Monday moring.

Tailgate
08-07-2010, 01:43 PM
and the depth chart shows the ineptitude of the good ol boys smith and kubiak

first off many mistakes,

rackers should be ahead of brown by far ,and he isnt because of the money they gave brown

earl should be ahead of cody and okoye,and isnt because kubes is "loyal" to veterans

casey should be ahead of dreessen but isnt because of the denver ties of dreessen

reeves,molden,bennett should be ahead of kareem,but isnt because kareem might cry

white and smith should be ahead of myers but isnt because of denver ties again

barwin should be ahead of smith but isnt because of loyalty and money,and probably a under table promise

booty should be ahead of dan but isnt because of money paid to dan

basically ,half the chart is upsetting and wrong,and shows that denver,money,loyalty is more important than winning

thats why there isnt a playoff birth yet, bill cowher watch begins

ps:one schaub injury away from losing season


You should totally start coaching or at least apply for a GM spot. Do you understand what the word unofficial means?

Wolf
08-07-2010, 01:45 PM
Some people on tates facebook made comments that Tate juked Cushing pretty good. any truth to that?(it wasn't tate that made the comment)

Texas T
08-07-2010, 01:46 PM
Notes from today's practice:

Kareem Jackson certainly looked much better today. Got beat by AJ a few times, but that goes without saying, and got beat by K-Dub on a post route over the middle, but other than that looked much improved from the version i saw last week.

Glover Quin is still our #1 at this point in my opinion. Hopefully we won't keep the rookie on Reggie Wayne come week 1.

#42 Torri Williams had 2 picks today and another pass deflection. He was looking very promising, let's see if he makes the final cut.

Ben Tate looked much much better today as well. Got in and out of cuts very quickly and has the speed to match. Foster still looked the best, with Tate, Slaton, Henry, and J. Johnson following him.

In the kicking competition today, Rackers went 6-6 and Kris Brown went 4-6. They did one kick at 33, 38, 43, 48, and two at 53 from different angles. KB's misses came at 48 and 53 down the middle.

Orlovsky was making some solid throws, followed by some very questionable ones, like missing a wide open Chris Henry off of a play-action rollout. Didn't pay much attention when Booty was throwing.

Once again, failed to pay too much attention to the trenches, but no real excuses this time.

Barwin made a pick dropping into coverage today. Impressive, but not quite sure how i feel about him dropping into coverage in the first place.

Jacoby and K-Dub were neither really impressive today, but i think JJ looked better.

Dickerson blew by defenders on a streak route that got himself a TD...he keeps getting better and better. Didn't see too much today from Bobby Williams, the guy who Kubiak has been repping.

In other news, Pollard and Cushing knocked the piss out of people, Schaub looked good, and Andre Johnson is still a beast.

This all sounds really promising.
I'm glad to hear that KJ keeps getting better (not that anyone thinks he'll be able to stop 'Dre)
Also happy about Tate's improvement. This looks to be our best running year yet!!

+Rep for keeping us in the loop-Thanks!

Tailgate
08-07-2010, 01:53 PM
I like this quote from Kubiak today...

(on if there is anything different that he could gauge right now with this team compared to past teams) "There's two things that jump at me right now. I like the way we're running the ball on offense. I like some of the things that we're doing. (offensive line coach) John (Benton) and (offensive coordinator) Rick (Dennison) are doing some of the things that we added. I like the fact that we've got a few backs that make some big plays. The biggest thing, and you'll probably see every day, is to see that the defense is so much improved every day. They're making plays every day. There's no highs and lows. They're very consistent at what they're doing and that's very pleasing."

http://www.houstontexans.com/news/Story.asp?story_id=6261

small nizzle
08-07-2010, 01:57 PM
at this point Im almost hoping that Kris Brown shanks a game costing field goal..(and it wouldnt be the first) just so I can say "I told you so" also for more to support me in the effort to put rackers ahead of brown

best case scenario,is in preseason brown shanks his first 2 fg and that way regardless of money owed to Brown, Kubiak will have NO CHOICE but to pick rackers

as of right now, im convinced kris brown has pics of kubes in a tutu

gary
08-07-2010, 02:02 PM
at this point Im almost hoping that Kris Brown shanks a game costing field goal..(and it wouldnt be the first) just so I can say "I told you so" also for more to support me in the effort to put rackers ahead of brown

best case scenario,is in preseason brown shanks his first 2 fg and that way regardless of money owed to Brown, Kubiak will have NO CHOICE but to pick rackers

as of right now, im convinced kris brown has pics of kubes in a tutu
Neg rep for this guy from me.

jaayteetx
08-07-2010, 02:18 PM
and the depth chart shows the ineptitude of the good ol boys smith and kubiak

first off many mistakes,

rackers should be ahead of brown by far ,and he isnt because of the money they gave brown

earl should be ahead of cody and okoye,and isnt because kubes is "loyal" to veterans

casey should be ahead of dreessen but isnt because of the denver ties of dreessen

reeves,molden,bennett should be ahead of kareem,but isnt because kareem might cry

white and smith should be ahead of myers but isnt because of denver ties again

barwin should be ahead of smith but isnt because of loyalty and money,and probably a under table promise

booty should be ahead of dan but isnt because of money paid to dan

basically ,half the chart is upsetting and wrong,and shows that denver,money,loyalty is more important than winning

thats why there isnt a playoff birth yet, bill cowher watch begins

ps:one schaub injury away from losing season

Man, little pessimistic are we? Its an UNOFFICIAL depth chart first off, so its not worth the paper it would be printed on. I'll address a couple of your concerns though, Bennett isn't even going to make this team so how do you figure he should be ahead of Jackson? As for a Schaub injury, do you realize Indy is one Manning injury away from a losing season as well? Cowher isn't coming here, relax bro.

Ryan
08-07-2010, 02:22 PM
Some people on tates facebook made comments that Tate juked Cushing pretty good. any truth to that?(it wasn't tate that made the comment)


Oh yeah, he did. I'm not sure if Cush was going full speed or not, but it certainly was a nice move.

gary
08-07-2010, 02:23 PM
Face it people our team stinks.

J_R
08-07-2010, 02:55 PM
The Texans’ sideline erupted when roookie cornerback Kareem Jackson (5-10, 197) laid out right tackle Eric Winston (6-7, 317) in the right flat on a screen pass. “That there was kind of tough,” Texans coach Gary Kubiak said afterward. “We know he’ll hit you. We saw him do it at Alabama. If you play for (defense backs coach) David (Gibbs) and you’re a corner, then you’re going to tackle.” Jackson got burned by Johnson early in practice on a route 20 yards down field, but the first-round draft pick rebounded to break up a pass from Dan Orlovsky to Jacoby Jones toward the end of practice.



Fullback Vonta Leach – AKA “The Hammer,” “Big Bruiser,” "Big Punisher" and a host of other nicknames related to being the 6-0, 263-pound hard hitter that he is – leveled cornerback Antwaun Molden on an outside stretch play to the left to clear a path for rookie running back Ben Tate. “We’re trying to get the running game going,” Leach said. “We’re trying to be physical at the point of attack and things. Every time you look up and read something, it seems like running back is the weakest link on our offense, so we’ve got to come out and we’ve got something to prove.”



Kickers Kris Brown and Neil Rackers alternated field goal attempts from the following distances: 32, 37, 42, 47 and 52 yards. Brown was 4-of-6, missing wide right from 42 and 52. Rackers was 6-of-6.


http://www.houstontexans.com/blog/index.asp?post_id=1301

Mr. Brown still seems to be struggling. 4-5 the first day, both Rackers 5-6 the next, Brown 4-6 today, iIrc.

J_R
08-07-2010, 03:45 PM
http://www.examiner.com/examiner/x-778-Houston-Texans-Examiner~y2010m8d7-Texans-training-camp-notes--Day-8?cid=sharing_twitter:778

JB
08-07-2010, 03:48 PM
at this point Im almost hoping that Kris Brown shanks a game costing field goal..(and it wouldnt be the first) just so I can say "I told you so" also for more to support me in the effort to put rackers ahead of brown

best case scenario,is in preseason brown shanks his first 2 fg and that way regardless of money owed to Brown, Kubiak will have NO CHOICE but to pick rackers

as of right now, im convinced kris brown has pics of kubes in a tutu

:lol:


No, actually that is sad, not funny

False Start
08-07-2010, 04:13 PM
The Texans’ sideline erupted when roookie cornerback Kareem Jackson (5-10, 197) laid out right tackle Eric Winston (6-7, 317) in the right flat on a screen pass. “That there was kind of tough,” Texans coach Gary Kubiak said afterward. “We know he’ll hit you. We saw him do it at Alabama. If you play for (defense backs coach) David (Gibbs) and you’re a corner, then you’re going to tackle.” Jackson got burned by Johnson early in practice on a route 20 yards down field, but the first-round draft pick rebounded to break up a pass from Dan Orlovsky to Jacoby Jones toward the end of practice.

Damn, Eric........ you might want to stop getting punked by rookies, and getting into fights. :heh:

b0ng
08-07-2010, 04:19 PM
I'm not really hearing much about the lines. Specifically, how are the interiors of each line?

edit: In my head small_nizzle is just richard justice's TT account.

JB
08-07-2010, 04:29 PM
I'm not really hearing much about the lines. Specifically, how are the interiors of each line?

edit: In my head small_nizzle is just richard justice's TT account.

that is funny right there! :lol:

gary
08-07-2010, 04:33 PM
The O line has looked alright when I have been out there. Nothing really too jaw dropping from the D line just alright at least from what I could see.

J_R
08-07-2010, 04:47 PM
I'm not really hearing much about the lines. Specifically, how are the interiors of each line?

edit: In my head small_nizzle is just richard justice's TT account.

From what I hear/read, sounds like they're still doing some mixing and matching in the interior, getting different looks. Nothing probably gonna change but who knows.

False Start
08-07-2010, 04:54 PM
edit: In my head small_nizzle is just richard justice's TT account.

Just maybe........ at least hes honest about it. :lol:

rmartin65
08-07-2010, 04:59 PM
Neg rep for this guy from me.

Yeah, I got him.

Anyway, glad to hear KJax is doing better. Actually it sounds like all the rookies are preforming alright at least. Except for McMannis (I know I misspelled that, sorry) and Smith, I dont hear anything about them, good or bad.

gary
08-07-2010, 05:07 PM
Yeah, I got him.

Anyway, glad to hear KJax is doing better. Actually it sounds like all the rookies are preforming alright at least. Except for McMannis (I know I misspelled that, sorry) and Smith, I dont hear anything about them, good or bad.
I'll try to watch them on Monday.

Lucky
08-07-2010, 05:16 PM
first off many mistakes
Yes, you have made many mistakes. But, it's training camp and I'm sure you will improve over the course of the season.

Notes from today's practice:

In the kicking competition today, Rackers went 6-6 and Kris Brown went 4-6. They did one kick at 33, 38, 43, 48, and two at 53 from different angles. KB's misses came at 48 and 53 down the middle.
Very nice report, and this looks like the accurate yardage (which is different than the practice report from the official site). Rackers' kicks look under control. Brown looks like he's trying to punch the ball through. This is no contest, Rackers should be given the job now and give Brown an opportunity to find a job elsewhere.

I would like to ask the folks who went to TC if you've noticed whether we were in the 3-3 Defense some? And if so, who was doing what?

Any 3-4 at all?
All I saw was 4-3 and Nickel, today. Though they did run some zone blitz (once on a Barwin interception of Schaub).

I'm not really hearing much about the lines. Specifically, how are the interiors of each line?

I thought the starting d-line missed Mario, though Barwin looks more like a true DE than last season. Despite the questioning of his "intensity", Williams impact is felt on the defense. Even during practice.

Okoye looks tiny for a DT. Small DTs have had success in the league over the years. And I'm talking relatively small, in comparison to their era. In the '70s, Alan Page played in the 240s when most of the DTs went in the 270 lb range. John Randle played at 265 lbs, when most went around 290 lbs. So maybe this can work for Amobi. But, I saw him stoned on a pass rush by Chris Myers. Maybe Myers has gotten much stronger over the off season? Else....well, draw your own conclusions.

The plays I focused on Mitchell usually were running plays. Which ended up with Earl either being run out of the play or pancaked. To me, Mitchell looks like pass rush specialist, at this point. We'll see. I will say that this was a very quiet day for DeMeco and the other MLBs. That's telling me that the DTs aren't doing their job of keeping the blockers off the 2nd level.

HouSportsWriter
08-07-2010, 06:31 PM
I had a blast!!!!!!!


I got to meet J.Jones,David Anderson Chris Myers , Antwaun Moldin and Dominic Barber

all signed my jersey =d

gary
08-07-2010, 06:38 PM
Mom came in and asked me if I was ready to go this morning I was not about to get out of bed. Bummer.

HouSportsWriter
08-07-2010, 06:41 PM
you can quote me on this ok


a freind and i was watching the offence stretch when jacoby jones came close to the o-line

i screamed "jacoby are you going to be our number #2 or #3"


he screamed back


"man all i want to do is win games"



thats what i want to here!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

HouSportsWriter
08-07-2010, 06:42 PM
Mom came in and asked me if I was ready to go this morning I was not about to get out of bed. Bummer.

i looked for you maby next year man =]

gary
08-07-2010, 06:44 PM
I have been going to all of them thus far and am going to go one more time.

The Pencil Neck
08-07-2010, 07:46 PM
Yeah, I got him.

Anyway, glad to hear KJax is doing better. Actually it sounds like all the rookies are preforming alright at least. Except for McMannis (I know I misspelled that, sorry) and Smith, I dont hear anything about them, good or bad.

Oh, no. McManis has been doing really good. He's pushing hard for a spot on the 53 (goodbye, Bennett) and even got some good reps with the 1's today from what I read.

Smith, I haven't heard good things about which is sad because I had high hopes for him.

gary
08-07-2010, 07:49 PM
I hope Fred is out.

rmartin65
08-07-2010, 07:57 PM
Oh, no. McManis has been doing really good. He's pushing hard for a spot on the 53 (goodbye, Bennett) and even got some good reps with the 1's today from what I read.

Smith, I haven't heard good things about which is sad because I had high hopes for him.

That is great to hear! Thanks.

I was high on Smith as well. Tough interior lineman with underrated athletic ability, I was hoping he would be a starting guard in a couple years, and getting a backup spot this year. Its not like the Texans line is really deep with talent.

gary
08-07-2010, 08:00 PM
I do not see Shelly hanging around.

HouSportsWriter
08-07-2010, 08:23 PM
guys i forgot to mention


"kickers"
brown was 4 - 6
rackers was 6 - 6

i think brown gets cut

gary
08-07-2010, 08:40 PM
guys i forgot to mention


"kickers"
brown was 4 - 6
rackers was 6 - 6

i think brown gets cut
Only to be blamed if the Texans do not make the playoffs next season. LOL

JB
08-07-2010, 08:41 PM
Only to be blamed if the Texans do not make the playoffs next season. LOL

Won't be blamed if he is doing his job.

edo783
08-07-2010, 09:15 PM
Mom came in and asked me if I was ready to go this morning I was not about to get out of bed. Bummer.

Geeezzzz, drunk again Gary??? Cut it back a bit man. LOL Say Hi to your mom and her sister for me. Fun ladies.

CloakNNNdagger
08-07-2010, 09:29 PM
Okoye looks tiny for a DT. Small DTs have had success in the league over the years. And I'm talking relatively small, in comparison to their era. In the '70s, Alan Page played in the 240s when most of the DTs went in the 270 lb range. John Randle played at 265 lbs, when most went around 290 lbs. So maybe this can work for Amobi. But, I saw him stoned on a pass rush by Chris Myers. Maybe Myers has gotten much stronger over the off season? Else....well, draw your own conclusions.

The plays I focused on Mitchell usually were running plays. Which ended up with Earl either being run out of the play or pancaked. To me, Mitchell looks like pass rush specialist, at this point. We'll see. I will say that this was a very quiet day for DeMeco and the other MLBs. That's telling me that the DTs aren't doing their job of keeping the blockers off the 2nd level.

Two thoughts.

First. Our lines are relatively small with questionable overall "strength." And Amobi's gotten even smaller. So now we're watching our two relatively light lines with questionable strength going at each other. What happens when these line compete against other teams' lines? Although that seems not to concern some, including Kubiak, it still concerns me. I'm not of the school that finesse/technique alone is likely to trump size and strength.

Second. We better have well-establish 1st team DL and OL by the second half of the preseason. If we're still tinkering with the lines into the beginning of the regular season like we have done in all years past, my concern level for a successful season will hit the red level relatively soon.

gary
08-07-2010, 09:34 PM
Geeezzzz, drunk again Gary??? Cut it back a bit man. LOL Say Hi to your mom and her sister for me. Fun ladies.It was a hangover.:kitten:

mexican_texan
08-08-2010, 12:23 AM
Is there reason to believe Molden actually is ahead of Reeves in the depth chart?

MojoMan
08-08-2010, 12:32 AM
Is there reason to believe Molden actually is ahead of Reeves in the depth chart?

Yes. And here it is:

http://www.houstontexans.com/team/depthchart.asp

painekiller
08-08-2010, 12:58 AM
Two thoughts.

First. Our lines are relatively small with questionable overall "strength." And Amobi's gotten even smaller. So now we're watching our two relatively light lines with questionable strength going at each other. What happens when these line compete against other teams' lines? Although that seems not to concern some, including Kubiak, it still concerns me. I'm not of the school that finesse/technique alone is likely to trump size and strength.

Second. We better have well-establish 1st team DL and OL by the second half of the preseason. If we're still tinkering with the lines into the beginning of the regular season like we have done in all years past, my concern level for a successful season will hit the red level relatively soon.

I agree totally with your 1st point. As for your second point, I think the coaches are rotating the guys to give each reps with each group. By seeing Brisiel snapping with the 1st team you are getting a chance to see how he can do if you need him to. Also it allows the coaches to see if a guy is truly carrying his weight or is the guys next to him cover up for the others mistake.

Plus I think they are trying to be smarter with the number of reps guys get so they can be fresher come week one of the season.

The Pencil Neck
08-08-2010, 01:13 AM
Is there reason to believe Molden actually is ahead of Reeves in the depth chart?

The first day of TC, when KJ hadn't signed, Molden played with the ones. Not Reeves.

That would lead me to suspect that Molden his higher on the depth chart that Reeves right now.

D-Frank
08-08-2010, 01:32 AM
when i went to0 camp it was only the 2nd day, but on THAT day Molden looked like our best cover cb. i dont know how things are lookin right now, i just go by what i hear.

playa465
08-08-2010, 03:58 AM
Two thoughts.

First. Our lines are relatively small with questionable overall "strength." And Amobi's gotten even smaller. So now we're watching our two relatively light lines with questionable strength going at each other. What happens when these line compete against other teams' lines? Although that seems not to concern some, including Kubiak, it still concerns me. I'm not of the school that finesse/technique alone is likely to trump size and strength.


I totally agree...plus I don't see many finesse teams on our schedule. I used to engage in debate over this on the other board alot, until it got old. The DL is what worries me the most...people mention smallish DTs have been successful in the past which is true, but if you look at those DTs they all had fierce intensity to go along with talent...where is that amongst our DTs? Big props to all who have shared info while visiting TC, looks like I may end up watching games from kimchi land again :cry2:

Allstar
08-08-2010, 05:33 AM
WR Andre Johnson

(on experience with CB Kareem Jackson) "It's been going good. When I see (CB) Kareem (Jackson) walking around, I just go and ask him if he's alright. You can kind of tell that he has a lot of information coming at him. A lot of installs and stuff goes on during training camp, all the offense and all of the defense. For me, being a veteran, I pretty much know the offense, so I don't have to think as much when I'm out there, but he does. I just try to talk to him and keep his spirits up. You can tell his mind is wandering a little bit when you see him walking around the locker room, so I always ask him if he's alright or if he has a question or anything. I talk to him about it and I just let him know I am going to work him every day and I told him he is going to make me better. By us going at each other every day, it's going to make us both better. I'm going to try to do everything I can do to make sure he is ready and be his coach."

(on being a teacher for CB Kareem Jackson) "When I go out there, I am going to try to beat him up every day. That's my approach and the way I approach every other defensive team. I give them everything I've got and they're going to do the same for me. It only makes us all better as a football team. We just go out and compete and when we go inside we talk about some of the things that happened and some of the moves we give them and some of the looks they give us so when we get on the field we can know what to expect."

God I love Andre.

kiwitexansfan
08-08-2010, 08:12 AM
God I love Andre.

Yep, not a better combination of character and talent in the NFL right now.

CloakNNNdagger
08-08-2010, 09:16 AM
WR Andre Johnson

(on experience with CB Kareem Jackson) "It's been going good. When I see (CB) Kareem (Jackson) walking around, I just go and ask him if he's alright. You can kind of tell that he has a lot of information coming at him. A lot of installs and stuff goes on during training camp, all the offense and all of the defense. For me, being a veteran, I pretty much know the offense, so I don't have to think as much when I'm out there, but he does. I just try to talk to him and keep his spirits up. You can tell his mind is wandering a little bit when you see him walking around the locker room, so I always ask him if he's alright or if he has a question or anything. I talk to him about it and I just let him know I am going to work him every day and I told him he is going to make me better. By us going at each other every day, it's going to make us both better. I'm going to try to do everything I can do to make sure he is ready and be his coach."

God I love Andre.

Speaks of the "greatness" we already appreciate in Andre.

I am fully aware that this is just the beginning of camp. But when I hear descriptions of Kareem being taken to task consistently not only by Andre, but by the other WRs............and then Andre gives a description of a man overwhelmed walking around dazed, I begin battling anxiety symptoms of my own. :shades:

IDEXAN
08-08-2010, 10:43 AM
First. Our lines are relatively small with questionable overall "strength." And Amobi's gotten even smaller. So now we're watching our two relatively light lines with questionable strength going at each other. What happens when these line compete against other teams' lines? Although that seems not to concern some, including Kubiak, it still concerns me. I'm not of the school that finesse/technique alone is likely to trump size and strength.

It's not a problem, it's the perfect lineup. So long as we are ahead and the opponent is placed in a position where they have to pass the ball and our
DLine is therefor in a position where they need to rush the passer.
Now if we are behind, ah oh ! A big burly OLine will just run over our little
narrow-azzed DLine with a 3 yards-and-cloud-of-dust strategy.

Lucky
08-08-2010, 12:25 PM
The first day of TC, when KJ hadn't signed, Molden played with the ones. Not Reeves.

That would lead me to suspect that Molden his higher on the depth chart that Reeves right now.
Barring injury, it looks to me as if Reeves and Bennett are out. Seems as if Gibbs just wants guys who only know his techniques. Which makes sense, because it's easier to learn something new than unlearn something. Molden was only under Hoke for a year, and he was injured for a big chunk of that. Not a lot to unlearn for him.

Quin
Jackson
McCain
Molden
McManis

That's how I see the CB position shaking out after camp and the preseason.

gary
08-08-2010, 12:36 PM
I am not sure I'd cut Reevs.

Honoring Earl 34
08-08-2010, 12:52 PM
when i went to0 camp it was only the 2nd day, but on THAT day Molden looked like our best cover cb. i dont know how things are lookin right now, i just go by what i hear.

Molden is very talented . At the combine he lifted 225 lbs 23 times , while running a 4.39 . He was an absolute beast on special teams before he got hurt . I used to think he made every tackle or so it seemed .

Trivia ... along with Ted Ginn jr , Molden's team held or holds the national 4x100 record for high scholol . Molden's fiance died at 21 of cancer . I adopted him last year as my player but will not adopt a player this year in case I'm a jinx .

HouSportsWriter
08-08-2010, 09:47 PM
a picture of the o line

http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u320/irockthesoxs/005.jpg

qb's warming up wr's
http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u320/irockthesoxs/010.jpg

my jersey now!

http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u320/irockthesoxs/017.jpg

Honoring Earl 34
08-08-2010, 10:41 PM
That # 68 is tall and skinny .

J_R
08-09-2010, 01:09 AM
68 is UDFA Steve Maneri. Former TE now T. 6'6 272

darnbni99a
08-09-2010, 02:37 AM
really good info in here..keep it coming!!

Shaft75
08-09-2010, 09:25 AM
Tate just limped off field. :(

Shaft75
08-09-2010, 09:37 AM
Tate came back in and immediately fumbled the ball. It was funny seeing him and okam fight over it. Kubiak called Tate over for a talk after it. I'm sure fumbles cause him to lose sleep at night.

While I was typing Tate hit a 20 yarder. Good burst through the hole.

Austrian
08-09-2010, 10:06 AM
Thanks Shaft. Rep for you and please keep it coming.

J_R
08-09-2010, 10:08 AM
Trindon Holliday, Pannel Egboh both back.

Rey
08-09-2010, 12:10 PM
Barring injury, it looks to me as if Reeves and Bennett are out. Seems as if Gibbs just wants guys who only know his techniques. Which makes sense, because it's easier to learn something new than unlearn something. Molden was only under Hoke for a year, and he was injured for a big chunk of that. Not a lot to unlearn for him.

Quin
Jackson
McCain
Molden
McManis

That's how I see the CB position shaking out after camp and the preseason.

Would we save any money by cutting Reeves?

I think McManis is going to have to show something in these games coming up to beat out Reeves for the last spot...I do agree that Bennett is as good as gone though.

Rey
08-09-2010, 12:15 PM
http://www.prosportsdaily.com/nfl/texans/

McCain, 23, admits at times he was lost on the field as a rookie. But this year in camp, McCain appears confident in each of his steps when covering receivers.

“Everything moves a lot slower for me this year, and I’m having a good time,” McCain said. “I think my game improved a lot in the offseason, and I’m hoping that shows on the field.”

The improvements he made in the offseason involved adding strength to complement his quickness.

Several times last season, McCain had his receiver covered but failed to make the tackle after the catch. He spent much of the offseason lifting weights and didn’t miss a day of the Texans’ offseason program.


That's good stuff.

Shaft75
08-09-2010, 12:43 PM
I ende up leaving a little early this time. They took the pads off around 9:30, so I really didn't want to stick around.

They were pumping in some crowd noise this practice, which was pretty cool to see. But overall it was a Monday on the job for the players, so understandably there wasn't a lot of intensity.

The 1's ran the ball alot, which is a good thing. I wasn't at all sold on Foster before, but today he really impressed me. He's just perfect for our system.

When I say there wasn't alot of intensity, you can always omit Pollard. That dude wakes up ready. He was out there pushing everyone to get better.

Man I wish you could put Pollards persona into Okam. Nobody could push that big boy off the line.

RipTraxx
08-09-2010, 01:10 PM
Kubes praise of Earl Mitchell is well deserved. That kid is lightening quick. Reminded me of John Randle. He was EXCELLENT in one on one drills.

HOU-TEX
08-09-2010, 03:49 PM
Kubes praise of Earl Mitchell is well deserved. That kid is lightening quick. Reminded me of John Randle. He was EXCELLENT in one on one drills.

That's where I noticed his burst off the ball. Unfortunately, I haven't seen it when they run team drills. Makes me think he's thinking too much rather than just firing off and getting to the ball. He's redirected too easily in the run game. I think he'll come around, but like someone else mentioned, he might only be a situational DT to start.

RipTraxx
08-09-2010, 04:36 PM
That's where I noticed his burst off the ball. Unfortunately, I haven't seen it when they run team drills. Makes me think he's thinking too much rather than just firing off and getting to the ball. He's redirected too easily in the run game. I think he'll come around, but like someone else mentioned, he might only be a situational DT to start.

In one on one drills his hand speed (getting the blockers hands off him) was like a blur.

There were a lot of "oooooh, aaahhhhs' from anyone that was watching him. Of course u dont get that reaction in group, b/c most people are watching the backs and recievers.

Tailgate
08-09-2010, 04:37 PM
Sweet.

(on the progression of the offensive line) "I was disappointed in it today. We came out sloppy. We're obviously playing a lot of people inside. I think our guard position is wide open. I don't think anybody has taken the job from the two that are starting nor have they solidified their situation. I think our two guard spots are wide open. I think it'll work itself out over the next few weeks."

http://www.houstontexans.com/news/Story.asp?story_id=6265

stevn8r
08-09-2010, 04:48 PM
re-tweeted by adam schefter


Adam_Schefter Sleeper alert RT @evansilva: Kubiak on Texans rookie Dorin Dickerson: "He's got the talent to be a (No.) one or two (WR) in this league."

does he look that good?

mariowillshine15
08-09-2010, 04:50 PM
re-tweeted by adam schefter



does he look that good?

Kubiak

(on WR Dorin Dickerson) "First of all, he's got his weight down a little bit. Obviously he's sitting there thinking he's a tight end coming out. Then we ask him to be a 222-pound wide receiver. So, I think he's got that under control. His conditioning levels are better. When you could run 4.3 something and be that size in this league and learn what you're doing, you could get dangerous real quick. He's got the body and the tools to be a one or two in this league. He's got a long way to go. He's flashed very early in this camp. He has slowed down a little bit. So hopefully he could come back here and do some good things against Arizona."

He's got all the tools

JB
08-09-2010, 04:52 PM
re-tweeted by adam schefter



does he look that good?

dude left off the end of that quote... the enite quote on Dickerson was:

(on WR Dorin Dickerson) "First of all, he's got his weight down a little bit. Obviously he's sitting there thinking he's a tight end coming out. Then we ask him to be a 222-pound wide receiver. So, I think he's got that under control. His conditioning levels are better. When you could run 4.3 something and be that size in this league and learn what you're doing, you could get dangerous real quick. He's got the body and the tools to be a one or two in this league. He's got a long way to go. He's flashed very early in this camp. He has slowed down a little bit. So hopefully he could come back here and do some good things against Arizona."

http://www.houstontexans.com/news/Story.asp?story_id=6265

edit: mariowillshine15 beat me to it.

stevn8r
08-09-2010, 05:05 PM
this is where he got the quote
http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.aspx?sport=NFL&id=5839

but he left this out
Texans coach Gary Kubiak says he believes seventh-round pick Dorin Dickerson "has got the body and the tools to be a (number) one or two (receiver) in this league."

"(But) he's got a long way to go," Kubiak conceded. The Texans are high on Dickeron's natural gifts, but he's going to have to excel as a special teams gunner to make the final roster. He'll be no better than a No. 5 receiver.


so there you have it!:texflag:

kiwitexansfan
08-09-2010, 05:33 PM
Hate to be a downer on Dickerson but till he proves otherwise I'm putting him in the Matt Jones (Jacksonville) category of natural athletic skills but has proven nothing box.

Matt Jones was supposed to be a game changer too.

The Pencil Neck
08-09-2010, 05:44 PM
Hate to be a downer on Dickerson but till he proves otherwise I'm putting him in the Matt Jones (Jacksonville) category of natural athletic skills but has proven nothing box.

Matt Jones was supposed to be a game changer too.

The difference is, the Jaguars took a chance on a very talented player for a position he'd never played before by picking him in the first round and we took a chance on a very talented player for a position he'd kinda dabbled around with by picking him in the seventh round.

The Jags had to try to force Matt Jones into their starting lineup as quickly as they could. We can take a little time with this guy... although if he flashes a lot during the pre-season, we're not going to be able to PS him

Rey
08-09-2010, 06:08 PM
The difference is, the Jaguars took a chance on a very talented player for a position he'd never played before by picking him in the first round and we took a chance on a very talented player for a position he'd kinda dabbled around with by picking him in the seventh round.

The Jags had to try to force Matt Jones into their starting lineup as quickly as they could. We can take a little time with this guy... although if he flashes a lot during the pre-season, we're not going to be able to PS him

Also, If I'm not mistaken Matt Jones had a few off the field incidents and maybe a drug problem.

Dude probably could have been better if he worked harder.

drs23
08-09-2010, 06:12 PM
The difference is, the Jaguars took a chance on a very talented player for a position he'd never played before by picking him in the first round and we took a chance on a very talented player for a position he'd kinda dabbled around with by picking him in the seventh round.

The Jags had to try to force Matt Jones into their starting lineup as quickly as they could. We can take a little time with this guy... although if he flashes a lot during the pre-season, we're not going to be able to PS him

I'm not sure he's safe on the PS as it is. There were too many comments about what a "steal" he was in the 7th. My 2c says if he is placed on the PS, he'll be plucked quickly.

The Pencil Neck
08-09-2010, 06:21 PM
Also, If I'm not mistaken Matt Jones had a few off the field incidents and maybe a drug problem.

Dude probably could have been better if he worked harder.

Did he have those off the field incidents prior to being drafted? I know he had a ton once he got to Jacksonville but I don't recall that being a "known" behavior.

The Pencil Neck
08-09-2010, 06:24 PM
I'm not sure he's safe on the PS as it is. There were too many comments about what a "steal" he was in the 7th. My 2c says if he is placed on the PS, he'll be plucked quickly.

There were some mocks that had him as high as the second round. The fact that he dropped to the 7th was pretty surprising.

I had him on my board as an undersized TE and I hadn't even considered him as a WR. And frankly, I didn't have us in the market for a WR or a TE -- so he was totally not on my radar. :)

Rey
08-09-2010, 06:36 PM
I didn't know that Andre had done some MMA training in the past...

(on doing handwork activities) "I did the MMA training like two seasons ago. I haven't really gotten back into it since then. Sometimes in the off-season, I'll do things like that where you do a lot of hand stuff. It all helps out when you do. At first you think, ‘Why am I doing this?' But, once you get out here on the field and guys shoot their hands and stuff at you and you're able to grab them and knock them down, then you'll realize that it all paid off for you."

http://www.houstontexans.com/news/Story.asp?story_id=6265

Maddict5
08-09-2010, 06:44 PM
I didn't know that Andre had done some MMA training in the past...



http://www.houstontexans.com/news/Story.asp?story_id=6265

where were you the last few yrs? AJ's always telling everybody about everything he does the big blabbermouth :choke: ;)


seriously i think thats the first anybody has heard of it

The Pencil Neck
08-09-2010, 10:03 PM
seriously i think thats the first anybody has heard of it

I wasn't surprised when I read this. I thought I'd read about it at some point a couple of years ago. But... that was a couple of years ago...

Texan_Bill
08-09-2010, 10:10 PM
At first you think, ‘Why am I doing this?' But, once you get out here on the field and guys shoot their hands and stuff at you and you're able to grab them and knock them down, .........


:texanbill: Nice!!

dtran04
08-09-2010, 11:54 PM
Has ANYONE ever been plucked off the Texans' practice squad? Or have the Texans ever plucked anyone from another team's practice squad? I can't think of any. Overall, roster spots are way too valuable to spend on some rookie that hasn't practiced at all with your team.

The Pencil Neck
08-10-2010, 12:23 AM
Has ANYONE ever been plucked off the Texans' practice squad? Or have the Texans ever plucked anyone from another team's practice squad? I can't think of any. Overall, roster spots are way too valuable to spend on some rookie that hasn't practiced at all with your team.

Yes. We've had a couple of guys plucked off our PS. And we've plucked a couple of guys off of other people's PS as well.

mexican_texan
08-10-2010, 12:59 AM
Has ANYONE ever been plucked off the Texans' practice squad? Or have the Texans ever plucked anyone from another team's practice squad? I can't think of any. Overall, roster spots are way too valuable to spend on some rookie that hasn't practiced at all with your team.
Yeah, Kenneth something, drafted out of..Hampton?...plays for the Jaguars.

TexansSeminole
08-10-2010, 01:20 AM
Yeah, Kenneth something, drafted out of..Hampton?...plays for the Jaguars.

Petteway I think his name was.

Austrian
08-10-2010, 02:32 PM
Mario was on the field today. Kubiak said he'll play 10 snaps against the Cards.

PS: After watching that 2009 Texans review form NFL films on HT.com I'm freaking pumped.

Rey
08-10-2010, 02:47 PM
I'm not sure he's safe on the PS as it is. There were too many comments about what a "steal" he was in the 7th. My 2c says if he is placed on the PS, he'll be plucked quickly.

Dorin has been running quite a bit with the second team offense...

I know that is not a huge feat for a WR, but it does say something. He's been coming in right behind AJ...

Right now, I'd say Andre Davis is in more danger of getting cut than Dickerson is of being put on the practice squad...

rmartin65
08-10-2010, 02:52 PM
Dorin has been running quite a bit with the second team offense...

I know that is not a huge feat for a WR, but it does say something. He's been coming in right behind AJ...

Right now, I'd say Andre Davis is in more danger of getting cut than Dickerson is of being put on the practice squad...

Bingo. Dickerson has been impressing everyone, and has tremendous upside to boot. Andre Davis is older, on the downside of his career, and relatively expensive.

HOU-TEX
08-10-2010, 02:58 PM
It sounds like Pollard's quiet counterpart is doing well. Let's hope he remains healthy.

Veteran Eugen Wilson, the starter at free safety, had a great practice. On consecutive plays, Wilson intercepted quarterback Matt Schaub on a pass intended for David Anderson and then deflected a pass intended for receiver Jacoby Jones. Wilson hasn't missed a step this camp, cementing his starting spot. - Jordan Godwin

http://blogs.chron.com/sportsupdate/archives/2010/08/camp_quick_hits_4.html

Brisco_County
08-10-2010, 04:01 PM
So last year's surprise upgrade was strong safety. Could this year's be free safety?

rmartin65
08-10-2010, 10:31 PM
Kubiak said they plan on keeping 5 or 6 CBs. There are currently 8 on the roster, "starters Glover Quin and Kareem Jackson and backups Brice McCain, Jacques Reeves, Antwaun Molden, Sherrick McManis, Fred Bennett and Mark Parson." per HT.com

Who do you all see making it?

Quinn
Jackson
McCain
Reeves
Molden
McManis

Parson to the PS. Molden gets the nod because he is a beast at special teams.

drs23
08-10-2010, 10:35 PM
Kubiak said they plan on keeping 5 or 6 CBs. There are currently 8 on the roster, "starters Glover Quin and Kareem Jackson and backups Brice McCain, Jacques Reeves, Antwaun Molden, Sherrick McManis, Fred Bennett and Mark Parson." per HT.com

Who do you all see making it?

Quinn
Jackson
McCain
Reeves
Molden
McManis

Parson to the PS. Molden gets the nod because he is a beast at special teams.

Fred=goner, Parson same or PS is my call. Bennett I think has gotta see the numbers game not in his favor.

Rey
08-10-2010, 11:12 PM
I think Luck mentioned it the other day ( I think I disagreed with him...kinda), but I could see them making a tough call and letting Reeves walk so that they would only have to carry 5 CB's...With all the TE's we have + Trindon + it sounds like they want to keep Henry as a fourth RB, I don't think we can afford to carry 6 CB's...

Rey
08-10-2010, 11:14 PM
Something interesting I read from Kubiak:

• Kubiak was asked which particular players he's looking forward to watching on Saturday. In order, he listed running back Chris Henry, rookie wide receivers Dorin Dickerson and Trindon Holliday and rookie defensive tackles Malcolm Sheppard and Earl Mitchell. "We've got to orchestrate the running back situation because there is no way you could play five, but (Henry) is definitely going to play in this game," Kubiak said. "I think obviously, we as an organization would like to see what this returner (Holliday) can do. He's really struggled offensively, but we know we brought him here to return punts and kicks. We expect him to get the majority of that in the game."

"I just like his strength and motor. He could go all day. He's a well-conditioned and very physical player. I expect him to show up on special teams recovering kicks and those types of things for Joe (Marciano). Our backup backs if Arian (Foster) is our starter and stays that way, then our (No. 2, No. 3 and No. 4) backs are going to have to play special teams."
- Kubiak, on RB Chris Henry

"He's got a long way to go there. That's not his fault. It's not like he's played there and played a lot and understands what's going on, but you have to do more things in this league… We've got to get him somewhat comfortable between now and this weekend so he could play some offensive football."
- Texans coach Gary Kubiak, on rookie KR/WR Trindon Holliday

http://www.houstontexans.com/news/Story.asp?story_id=6271

We already pretty much knew this, but Trindon has got to show off as a returner to make this team.

I think he will though...It's what he do...

Lucky
08-11-2010, 12:21 AM
Has ANYONE ever been plucked off the Texans' practice squad? Or have the Texans ever plucked anyone from another team's practice squad? I can't think of any.
I think Curry Burns was picked off the Texans practice squad by the Giants. Brad Lekkerkerker I believe was scooped up by Da Raiders in 2005, as well. There must have been many practice squaders the Texans picked up in the early years. Shantee Orr? Kevin Garrett? Anthony Maddox? Some DT signed off the Cowboys practice squad? Someone help me.

So last year's surprise upgrade was strong safety. Could this year's be free safety?
Funny that you mention that, because Pollard's ex-teammate Jarrad Page has asked to be traded (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/08/07/jarrad-pages-agent-calls-chiefs-vindictive/) from the Chiefs. From Page's agent:


"Jarrad Page (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.aspx?sport=NFL&id=4011) requested to be traded away from Kansas City after the third Pre-Season game last year (vs. Seattle Seahawks). We requested a trade again this year on 6/17/2010 for the second time. Beginning in the Pre-Season and continuing all year, Coach Todd Haley mishandled Jarrad last season causing him to end up on IR. (Jarrad never missed a game in his NFL career prior to last season). There has been interest for Jarrad and the Chiefs are blocking legitimate trades. Page is a 5th year RFA. The cancellation of the CBA did Page wrong. The Chiefs just drafted Eric Berry with the 5th pick, so Page would have to make a position switch to SS to stay in the starting lineup. What do the Texans think of Page? More specifically, what does his former DB coach David Gibbs think of Page? What would the Chiefs accept as trade? And, would the Texans consider Page an upgrade over current FS Eugene Wilson. To me, this is more interesting than the Schobel watch. :popcorn:

HOU-TEX
08-11-2010, 09:53 AM
This is kinda random, but does anybody else think our camp is lenient compared to around the league? I mean, from what I gather we've only had 2 full pad practices, a hand full of shells and the rest are helmets only. I was at the 2 full pad practices and left kinda disappointed at the lack of pads crackin (except my boy Leach). When the NFLN shows random camps around the league I always see full pads and all out tackling.

I'm likely reading too much in to this, but our past few season's haven't started out the best

drs23
08-11-2010, 10:19 AM
This is kinda random, but does anybody else think our camp is lenient compared to around the league? I mean, from what I gather we've only had 2 full pad practices, a hand full of shells and the rest are helmets only. I was at the 2 full pad practices and left kinda disappointed at the lack of pads crackin (except my boy Leach). When the NFLN shows random camps around the league I always see full pads and all out tackling.

I'm likely reading too much in to this, but our past few season's haven't started out the best

I've wondered about that myself. I've watched the clips of the other camps. I know it doesn't count but in HS we were popping each other until the walk through the day before the game and then right back at it Monday. I've heard GK say he doesn't like to go "live" inner squad to keep the injuries down. I guess we'll see Saturday.

Cjeremy635
08-11-2010, 11:10 AM
This is kinda random, but does anybody else think our camp is lenient compared to around the league? I mean, from what I gather we've only had 2 full pad practices, a hand full of shells and the rest are helmets only. I was at the 2 full pad practices and left kinda disappointed at the lack of pads crackin (except my boy Leach). When the NFLN shows random camps around the league I always see full pads and all out tackling.

I'm likely reading too much in to this, but our past few season's haven't started out the best

You think it's due to the heat? Do they go all out when they move to the bubble? Maybe they have a schedule and they get more aggressive as the season approaches? Maybe they are scared to death of the injury bug? Hell, I don't know, but I get what you're sayin'.

HOU-TEX
08-11-2010, 11:17 AM
You think it's due to the heat? Do they go all out when they move to the bubble? Maybe they have a schedule and they get more aggressive as the season approaches? Maybe they are scared to death of the injury bug? Hell, I don't know, but I get what you're sayin'.

There are a few teams that go at it in the heat. Might not be as hot as down here, but still hot. Nah, they don't do much in the bubble due to the turf. Probably a lot of ST's and walk-throughs.

I was at the Saturday practice when they were in full pads and mentioned to a buddy of mine that I was surprised how tame it seemed. I mentioned maybe they'd turn it up a bit on game week, but it doesn't seem like they have. Granted, I'm going by pictures and the such, but how much bangin can you do in helmets only.

Rey
08-11-2010, 11:19 AM
This is kinda random, but does anybody else think our camp is lenient compared to around the league? I mean, from what I gather we've only had 2 full pad practices, a hand full of shells and the rest are helmets only. I was at the 2 full pad practices and left kinda disappointed at the lack of pads crackin (except my boy Leach). When the NFLN shows random camps around the league I always see full pads and all out tackling.

I'm likely reading too much in to this, but our past few season's haven't started out the best

I don't think you're reading too much into it..

But I will say that they do have pre-season to get their bangin in...

Also, I think guys like Pollard and Leach are going to bring it no matter what...

Chris Myers could probably use a little extra contact though..

Cjeremy635
08-11-2010, 11:20 AM
There are a few teams that go at it in the heat. Might not be as hot as down here, but still hot. Nah, they don't do much in the bubble due to the turf. Probably a lot of ST's and walk-throughs.

I was at the Saturday practice when they were in full pads and mentioned to a buddy of mine that I was surprised how tame it seemed. I mentioned maybe they'd turn it up a bit on game week, but it doesn't seem like they have. Granted, I'm going by pictures and the such, but how much bangin can you do in helmets only.

Well, hopefully they are in full swing come week 1. They should have learned their lesson about getting off to a slow start by now. I think they'll be fine......I sure hope so anyways. If not, I may end up having a heart attack, stroke, or kicking the shit out of my TV this year. I can't afford to do any of those, so I'm depending on these guys to do their part.

:strangle:

HOU-TEX
08-11-2010, 11:24 AM
Well, hopefully they are in full swing come week 1. They should have learned their lesson about getting off to a slow start by now. I think they'll be fine......I sure hope so anyways. If not, I may end up having a heart attack, stroke, or kicking the shit out of my TV this year. I can't afford to do any of those, so I'm depending on these guys to do their part.

:strangle:

I hear ya. Last year I was killed emotionally after that titan MNF game. I'm trying to make it a point to stay emotionally grounded this season, but I have a feeling I'm going to be at the edge of my seat every second once the season begins.

I just hope they don't rip my heart out and trounce on it like last season.

Cjeremy635
08-11-2010, 11:28 AM
I hear ya. Last year I was killed emotionally after that titan MNF game. I'm trying to make it a point to stay emotionally grounded this season, but I have a feeling I'm going to be at the edge of my seat every second once the season begins.

I just hope they don't rip my heart out and trounce on it like last season.

I literally was getting "rage" when we were playing like crap. I had to actually keep telling myself to not take it so seriously. It's an odd thing to be so emotionally invested in something that you have no control over the outcome. Huh..... such is sports.

:fans:

HOU-TEX
08-11-2010, 03:27 PM
A couple humerous events in practice

Veteran strong safety Bernard Pollard has developed a reputation as the vocal leader of the defense, and sometimes, that's at the cost of others. Running back Arian Foster, a favorite target of Pollard's, ran up the middle, looking to score a touchdown, but second-year cornerback Glover Quin easily knocked Foster to the ground. Pollard yelled at Foster, "Get up, boy! That's a cornerback that hit you!"

At the beginning of Wednesday's practice, while all of the players still had plenty of energy, the defensive line had a little bit of fun. Defensive end Antonio Smith began singing, "I Believe I Can Fly" by R. Kelly. Defensive tackle Shaun Cody joined in the singing, and they sang together as loud as they could. Defensive end Connor Barwin didn't join them, but he couldn't stop laughing

http://blogs.chron.com/sportsupdate/archives/2010/08/camp_quick_hits_5.html

Vinnie
08-11-2010, 04:02 PM
Just saw this in an article on chron.com:

AJ impressed with Jackson
One day after he had an excused absence because of a death in the family, rookie cornerback Kareem Jackson returned to practice. He had been suffering from a tight hamstring but played through it.

Every day, Jackson covers Andre Johnson in practice. The coaches believe it's the ideal situation for Jackson to learn.

"When I see Kareem walking around, I ask him if he's all right," Johnson said. "You can kind of tell he's got a lot of information coming at him. A lot of installs — all the offense and defense - is done during camp.

"I try to talk to him and keep his spirits up. I always ask if he's got a question. I let him know I'm going to work him every day. I told him he's going to make me better. By us going at each other every day, it's going to make us both better. I'm going to try to do everything I can do to make sure he's ready."

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/fb/texansfront/7148181.html

Andre may be the leagues best player, period. Not just best WR in my honest opinion.

HOU-TEX
08-11-2010, 04:24 PM
Am I the only one that had no clue we released Glenn Martinez? I knew he was hurt, but didn't think we would release him already.

8/6/2010 Released WR Glenn Martinez.

http://www.houstontexans.com/team/Transactions.asp

rmartin65
08-11-2010, 04:25 PM
Am I the only one that had no clue we released Glenn Martinez? I knew he was hurt, but didn't think we would release him already.



http://www.houstontexans.com/team/Transactions.asp

Whoa, thats news to me. I guess they are higher on Dickerson and Holliday than people expected (this soon).

The Pencil Neck
08-11-2010, 04:27 PM
Am I the only one that had no clue we released Glenn Martinez? I knew he was hurt, but didn't think we would release him already.



http://www.houstontexans.com/team/Transactions.asp

Wow. No. I hadn't heard that. I knew that he'd kinda fallen from grace but I didn't realize he'd fallen all the way to the street.

HOU-TEX
08-11-2010, 04:28 PM
Whoa, thats news to me. I guess they are higher on Dickerson and Holliday than people expected (this soon).

Yeah, I figured he'd eventually be let go, but not this soon. McGobbler must've been at the movies choking down footlongs or something.

The Pencil Neck
08-11-2010, 04:29 PM
Yeah, I figured he'd eventually be let go, but not this soon. McGobbler must've been at the movies choking down footlongs or something.

McGlobular doesn't choke on footlongs. Twofeetlongs, maybe but footlongs... no.

mattieuk
08-11-2010, 04:32 PM
This is kinda random, but does anybody else think our camp is lenient compared to around the league? I mean, from what I gather we've only had 2 full pad practices, a hand full of shells and the rest are helmets only. I was at the 2 full pad practices and left kinda disappointed at the lack of pads crackin (except my boy Leach). When the NFLN shows random camps around the league I always see full pads and all out tackling.

I'm likely reading too much in to this, but our past few season's haven't started out the best

I may be wrong, but didn't we get penalized a couple of off seasons ago for having an offseason activity that was too hard? (Perhaps it was full contact during early OTAs or something...I can't remember).

So long as theres some pad cracking come gameday I'm happy. :fans:

HOU-TEX
08-11-2010, 04:32 PM
McGlobular doesn't choke on footlongs. Twofeetlongs, maybe but footlongs... no.

Touche'. He washes it down with a liter of Big Red then makes a run at a 40 gallon bucket of popcorn

JB
08-11-2010, 04:48 PM
Touche'. He washes it down with a liter of Big Red then makes a run at a 40 gallon bucket of popcorn

:lol:

mexican_texan
08-11-2010, 06:27 PM
Touche'. He washes it down with a liter of Big Red then makes a run at a 40 gallon bucket of popcorn

More like a brisk walk...no...brisk waddle.

CloakNNNdagger
08-11-2010, 06:44 PM
You think it's due to the heat? Do they go all out when they move to the bubble? Maybe they have a schedule and they get more aggressive as the season approaches? Maybe they are scared to death of the injury bug? Hell, I don't know, but I get what you're sayin'.

Injuries are more like to occur going all out in the bubble.

Lucky
08-11-2010, 08:03 PM
Am I the only one that had no clue we released Glenn Martinez? I knew he was hurt, but didn't think we would release him already.

I think he has to clear waivers so that he can be placed on injured reserve.

Cjeremy635
08-11-2010, 08:09 PM
Am I the only one that had no clue we released Glenn Martinez? I knew he was hurt, but didn't think we would release him already.



http://www.houstontexans.com/team/Transactions.asp

Wow, I didn't know that. I got his autograph after the first morning practice. Hate to see him gone, but not surprised.

painekiller
08-12-2010, 01:43 AM
Well, hopefully they are in full swing come week 1. They should have learned their lesson about getting off to a slow start by now. I think they'll be fine......I sure hope so anyways. If not, I may end up having a heart attack, stroke, or kicking the shit out of my TV this year. I can't afford to do any of those, so I'm depending on these guys to do their part.

:strangle:

IMO they have backed down from in camp due to the slow starts. I thought we camp out of camps the beat up and tired. IMO that is why we looked bad to start the season.

Plus the team has changed the players weight training and condition program. We are seeing less injuries to the big guys then we did in Kubiaks early time here.

When I watched the big guys in one on one drills on Monday I was shocked at how quick they where moving the guys. It was hot as hell and those guys where working quick.

Bum Phillips did not practice the guys at all in pads during the season and it helped them get through the year.

The team works fast, and conditioning is the real key to the 4th quarter. I am thinking we look better against Indy then we did against the Jets.

painekiller
08-12-2010, 01:47 AM
Am I the only one that had no clue we released Glenn Martinez? I knew he was hurt, but didn't think we would release him already.



http://www.houstontexans.com/team/Transactions.asp

That is a normal practice for the training camp IR. You place a player on the IR, he is done for the year with you. He gets his pay.

Or he can ask for his release with an injury settlement, and once he is recovered he is free to sign with another team.

76Texan
08-12-2010, 02:28 AM
IMO they have backed down from in camp due to the slow starts. I thought we camp out of camps the beat up and tired. IMO that is why we looked bad to start the season.

Plus the team has changed the players weight training and condition program. We are seeing less injuries to the big guys then we did in Kubiaks early time here.

When I watched the big guys in one on one drills on Monday I was shocked at how quick they where moving the guys. It was hot as hell and those guys where working quick.

Bum Phillips did not practice the guys at all in pads during the season and it helped them get through the year.

The team works fast, and conditioning is the real key to the 4th quarter. I am thinking we look better against Indy then we did against the Jets.You've been quite very consistent with your thoughts, which I've always appreciated.
Can you please elaborate a little more on these, thanks!

painekiller
08-12-2010, 09:02 AM
I went to Mondays practice but have not found time to get this up. Sorry.

Arian Foster is really looking solid as the top back, he really hits the backside hole well.

Henry is still flashing, I want to see him do that in a game. But he is looks to be playing his way onto the roster.

Tate had a fumble at the goal line were there was a scrum for the ball. Which the defense won, this prompted Schaub to shout out "Get in the F$*King huddle" to the whole offense. The man is a leader. BTW Tate is showing flashes of being a stud RB. He is just not consistent yet. I have noticed the improvement in him since day 1, so I am not going to worry.

Not that I think it will happen, but Henry maybe be practicing his way ahead of Slaton.

Mitchell is still a beast in practice. No one can stop him in one on one drills. He is not as noticeable in the group drills, I believe that will come with experience.

I want to point out I am seeing improvement in Dan Orlovski, he had a nice deep throw to a WR for long TD. Forgotten which WR it was. He still has his bad plays, but he is getting better.

Jacoby Jones had another very good day IMO. Made a great catch over the middle that was off target, which prompted a hand thump from Kubiak.

Dickerson is improving very fast, Day 1, I was not very impressed, but he has really jumped his level of play. I think we will see a lot of plays from him Saturday, as he should be working with the 2s.

Torri Williams SS has had a very solid camp, and he flashed on some plays in during the goal line drills. On one play he knocked the ball away and landed hard, tangled up with the WR. He was down for a few minutes, trainers came over and talked to him. When they were done with, Pollard came over and talked him, as Pollard was walking away from him he yelled back " you owe 25 bucks for that." I guess kangaroo court is alive and well and Pollard is the judge, I can see that. In regards to Williams, at worse he is a practice squad guy. He has potential, plus those Purdue safeties seem to be pretty good. Pollard, Rick Smith, and HOFer Rod Woodson all played there.

Jackson was not out there on Monday, which I have now learned was due to his hammy being tight.

I am so glade we went and got Schaub. He is at the top of the heap, and he is so comfortable in the system. it really shows.

And finally my Mr. Obvious point, AJ is a man among boys. he makes it look so easy, and yet supply WOW Moments all the time.

painekiller
08-12-2010, 09:03 AM
You've been quite very consistent with your thoughts, which I've always appreciated.
Can you please elaborate a little more on these, thanks!

Not sure my last post answered your question. Which part do you want me to elaborate on?"

HOU-TEX
08-12-2010, 10:30 AM
That is a normal practice for the training camp IR. You place a player on the IR, he is done for the year with you. He gets his pay.

Or he can ask for his release with an injury settlement, and once he is recovered he is free to sign with another team.

My understanding of the quote "Released Glenn Martinez" is he's gone, fired, cut, let go, etc. He wasn't IR'd or put on the waived/IR list. He's receiving 0 money from us now that he's been "released"

drs23
08-12-2010, 10:44 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by painekiller
That is a normal practice for the training camp IR. You place a player on the IR, he is done for the year with you. He gets his pay.

Or he can ask for his release with an injury settlement, and once he is recovered he is free to sign with another team.


My understanding of the quote "Released Glenn Martinez" is he's gone, fired, cut, let go, etc. He wasn't IR'd or put on the waived/IR list. He's receiving 0 money from us now that he's been "released"

So which is it? I asked this question kinda some time back but this particular scenario wasn't addressed. How would one find out for sure?

painekiller
08-12-2010, 11:21 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by painekiller
That is a normal practice for the training camp IR. You place a player on the IR, he is done for the year with you. He gets his pay.

Or he can ask for his release with an injury settlement, and once he is recovered he is free to sign with another team.




So which is it? I asked this question kinda some time back but this particular scenario wasn't addressed. How would one find out for sure?

I does read like he was outright released, I guess I am wrong on this one. I thought Kubiak said they had IR Martinez. And I can not find the actual quote of it.

JB
08-12-2010, 11:22 AM
My understanding of the quote "Released Glenn Martinez" is he's gone, fired, cut, let go, etc. He wasn't IR'd or put on the waived/IR list. He's receiving 0 money from us now that he's been "released"

Checking the transasction history, Martinez was placed on the reserved/injured list on 8/2. Then released on 8/6. I'm guessing they reached an injury settlement with him, and released him so he can move on.

HOU-TEX
08-12-2010, 11:31 AM
Checking the transasction history, Martinez was placed on the reserved/injured list on 8/2. Then released on 8/6. I'm guessing they reached an injury settlement with him, and released him so he can move on.

Possibly, but why? It was just a hammy, right? If he got to the point where he was cleared to practice, release him and pay nothing. I might be wrong of course, but that would be the best path to take for the Texans.

JB
08-12-2010, 11:34 AM
Possibly, but why? It was just a hammy, right? If he got to the point where he was cleared to practice, release him and pay nothing. I might be wrong of course, but that would be the best path to take for the Texans.

I think because of the drafting of Dickerson and Holiday, and the thoughts that he was not going to make the team made him expendable. And it may be that they just released him and had no settlement, but I don't know. Can they release an injured player with no compensation?

HOU-TEX
08-12-2010, 11:44 AM
I think because of the drafting of Dickerson and Holiday, and the thoughts that he was not going to make the team made him expendable. And it may be that they just released him and had no settlement, but I don't know. Can they release an injured player with no compensation?

Yeah, I knew he wouldn't make the team. I just thought the release came out of nowhere. I believe they can release a player without compensation. Maybe I-Cak can chime in here, but I read through Rotoworld everyday and have been seeing a lot of waived/injured players.

JB
08-12-2010, 11:56 AM
Yeah, I knew he wouldn't make the team. I just thought the release came out of nowhere. I believe they can release a player without compensation. Maybe I-Cak can chime in here, but I read through Rotoworld everyday and have been seeing a lot of waived/injured players.

That brings up another question... Why are some players released and others waived. What's the difference?

HOU-TEX
08-12-2010, 11:58 AM
That brings up another question... Why are some players released and others waived. What's the difference?

I wouldn't think there'd be a difference, but damn bro, quit making me think so dadgum much. :lol:

I-Cak?

infantrycak
08-12-2010, 12:21 PM
Yeah, I knew he wouldn't make the team. I just thought the release came out of nowhere. I believe they can release a player without compensation. Maybe I-Cak can chime in here, but I read through Rotoworld everyday and have been seeing a lot of waived/injured players.

Once the player is injured they can't just release him so they reach an injury settlement. The reason they may have done that here with a minor injury is they already knew he wasn't going to make the team and are going to let him catch on somewhere else. Pay him a little something and let him move on rather than having him wait to pass a physical and then release him.

That brings up another question... Why are some players released and others waived. What's the difference?

Release means immediately an unrestricted free agent. For the first I think 4 accrued seasons players have to go through waivers and then there is a draft order priority system where teams can claim the player with their current contract.

painekiller
08-12-2010, 01:54 PM
Possibly, but why? It was just a hammy, right? If he got to the point where he was cleared to practice, release him and pay nothing. I might be wrong of course, but that would be the best path to take for the Texans.

We don't know if he was paid.

The teams transaction history has removed the IR transaction, can a player refuse to go on the preseason IR?

JB
08-12-2010, 02:01 PM
We don't know if he was paid.

The teams transaction history has removed the IR transaction, can a player refuse to go on the preseason IR?

No it's still there on 8/2.. 8/2/2010 Signed WR London Crawford. Placed WR Glenn Martinez on the reserve/injured list.

painekiller
08-12-2010, 02:27 PM
No it's still there on 8/2..

I missed it when I scanned earlier, thanks

HOU-TEX
08-12-2010, 02:35 PM
Once the player is injured they can't just release him so they reach an injury settlement. The reason they may have done that here with a minor injury is they already knew he wasn't going to make the team and are going to let him catch on somewhere else. Pay him a little something and let him move on rather than having him wait to pass a physical and then release him.


I guess I'm being confused by different reports then. I see players being released from the IR without mention of compensation all the time. On the same sites I also see reports of players being released after injury settlements.

J_R
08-12-2010, 02:44 PM
Here is your "nothing" news of the day: McCain has gone from #41 to #21.

The Pencil Neck
08-12-2010, 02:51 PM
Here is your "nothing" news of the day: McCain has gone from #41 to #21.

But... but... but...

HOU-TEX
08-12-2010, 02:54 PM
Wasn't Moats the last to wear 21? Strange that he waited this long to grab it

infantrycak
08-12-2010, 03:06 PM
I guess I'm being confused by different reports then. I see players being released from the IR without mention of compensation all the time. On the same sites I also see reports of players being released after injury settlements.

My only guesses on that are inconsistent reporting or a player with a minor injury agreeing to be released without a settlement in order to start looking for another spot.

Brisco_County
08-12-2010, 03:08 PM
Funny that you mention that, because Pollard's ex-teammate Jarrad Page has asked to be traded (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/08/07/jarrad-pages-agent-calls-chiefs-vindictive/) from the Chiefs. From Page's agent:

Page is a 5th year RFA. The cancellation of the CBA did Page wrong. The Chiefs just drafted Eric Berry with the 5th pick, so Page would have to make a position switch to SS to stay in the starting lineup. What do the Texans think of Page? More specifically, what does his former DB coach David Gibbs think of Page? What would the Chiefs accept as trade? And, would the Texans consider Page an upgrade over current FS Eugene Wilson. To me, this is more interesting than the Schobel watch. :popcorn:

This is interesting. Is he worth trading for? I know he has picked off Manning a couple of times in his four year career, and he lays hits like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crgR-BGlf4c

I'm reading that the Lions are really going after him.

76Texan
08-12-2010, 03:46 PM
IMO they have backed down from in camp due to the slow starts. I thought we camp out of camps the beat up and tired. IMO that is why we looked bad to start the season.


Maybe you mistyped some words here or for some reason, I just do not understand what you were trying to say.

Perhaps you can rephrase it in a different way?

76Texan
08-12-2010, 03:52 PM
Torri Williams SS has had a very solid camp, and he flashed on some plays in during the goal line drills. On one play he knocked the ball away and landed hard, tangled up with the WR. He was down for a few minutes, trainers came over and talked to him. When they were done with, Pollard came over and talked him, as Pollard was walking away from him he yelled back " you owe 25 bucks for that." I guess kangaroo court is alive and well and Pollard is the judge, I can see that. In regards to Williams, at worse he is a practice squad guy. He has potential, plus those Purdue safeties seem to be pretty good. Pollard, Rick Smith, and HOFer Rod Woodson all played there.


If he play enough to make the team, whose place do you think he will take?

BTW, thanks again to all who reported from TC!

DexmanC
08-12-2010, 04:55 PM
Here is your "nothing" news of the day: McCain has gone from #41 to #21.

Didn't Deion Sanders wear #21? I believe that's who McCain
is emulating.

painekiller
08-12-2010, 05:35 PM
Maybe you mistyped some words here or for some reason, I just do not understand what you were trying to say.

Perhaps you can rephrase it in a different way?

Yes I was in a daze when I typed that and did not proof read my post.

I heard Kubiak discuss in an interview early in the offseason that he wanted to figure a way for them to avoid the slow start. Tired Legs I think he said. So I think Kubiak has come up some ways to get the team off to a better start.

In the past, this team was one of league leaders with guys on the IR, so replacing the strength coach and backing off on the teams practices appear to be related. But I am also using huge reading of the tea leaves and inferring something.

Hope this is more clear

painekiller
08-12-2010, 05:39 PM
If he play enough to make the team, whose place do you think he will take?

BTW, thanks again to all who reported from TC!

Right now I do not see the team keeping over 4 safeties, so I don't foresee him beating out Barber. or Nolan.

Rey
08-12-2010, 08:00 PM
(on how he's going to work his running back situation) "(RB) Arian (Foster) and (RB) Steve (Slaton) will basically play with the ones. Then we'll take a good long hard look at (RB Ben) Tate. He's probably going to play longer than anybody. Then (RB) Chris (Henry) and (RB) Jeremiah (Johnson) will finish the game."

(on DE Mario Williams) "Mario's picked up again this morning. He's doing very good; we'll rest up here the next 24 hours and he'll play. He'll play, like I said, 10 to 12 plays."

http://www.houstontexans.com/news/Story.asp?story_id=6275

DexmanC
08-12-2010, 09:32 PM
Looks like Tate hasn't earned the right to be called by his first name
by Kubes. If Kubiak is saying your first name, you know you're alright.

Tate recently graduated from "The Kid from Auburn" to "Tate."
Let's see if he can earn a "Ben" Saturday night.

Honoring Earl 34
08-12-2010, 09:58 PM
http://www.chron.com/sports/photogallery/2010_Texans_camp_Day_14.html#22864523