PDA

View Full Version : T.O. is a Bengal


Ryan
07-27-2010, 07:33 PM
CINCINNATI (AP)—The Cincinnati Bengals have agreed to a contract with receiver Terrell Owens(notes), who is expected to report to training camp in a couple of days, a person familiar with the situation tells The Associated Press.

Owens wanted to play for the Bengals, who offered a deal on Monday looking to add another deep threat to their offense. He accepted the offer on Tuesday, said the person who confirmed the deal, speaking on condition of anonymity because the team had made no announcement.

The Bengals report for training camp Wednesday in Georgetown, Ky. Owens is expected to arrive for the first day of workouts Thursday.

Receiver Chad Ochocinco(notes) is one of Owens’ close friends, and welcomed him on his Twitter feed. Ochocinco lobbied for the team to sign Owens and has dubbed the two of them Batman and Robin.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=Ar6uub_K_2fRrHu.IO7B5ZZDubYF?slug=ap-bengals-to

rmartin65
07-27-2010, 07:51 PM
Haha, the Bengals are going to implode. I actually feel bad for Palmer, even if he wanted him. TO and Chad Johnson (I refuse to call him ochocinco) spells death for any QB.

CloakNNNdagger
07-27-2010, 07:56 PM
Haha, the Bengals are going to implode. I actually feel bad for Palmer, even if he wanted him. TO and Chad Johnson (I refuse to call him ochocinco) spells death for any QB.

Well, now I'll if want to enjoy some comic relief, I can tune into the Cowboys and the Bengals.:brando:

b0ng
07-27-2010, 08:48 PM
I don't know, it could be a decent signing? I guess we'll see if Palmer was just injured or if he's done forever I suppose.

I do like this from the TD celebration aspect.

HouSportsWriter
07-27-2010, 09:09 PM
Who is t.o? nah im jokeing. I just never thought he would sign this year. lol

TexasBoY25
07-27-2010, 09:52 PM
Bengals were the best fit for T.O, now the Bengals have one to many WRs. I wonder who will be the odd man out. There offense look nice but their secondary is still weak. Good luck to both parties

JB
07-27-2010, 09:57 PM
Bengals were the best fit for T.O, now the Bengals have one to many WRs. I wonder who will be the odd man out. There offense look nice but their secondary is still weak. Good luck to both parties

Secondary is weak? With Joseph & Hall, Crocker & Williams there secondary is one of the leagues best.

Texecutioner
07-27-2010, 10:06 PM
Bengals were the best fit for T.O, now the Bengals have one to many WRs. I wonder who will be the odd man out. There offense look nice but their secondary is still weak. Good luck to both parties

How are the Bengals the best fit for TO? Why, because they'll swallow his crap and let him act like a diva along with his buddy who calls himself Ocho Cinco? Yeah, it might be the best fit for him personally, but it's by far one of the worst situations for that team to have TO there. You've got a HC that already lost that locker room years ago and had a shoving match with the other jack ass WR there, and the Bengals have thrown all caution to the wind when it comes to players by going after Matt Jones, Antonio Bryant, Pac Man Jones, and now TO. They're adding that with Chad Johnson of all people. How in the hell do you think that Palmer is going to deal with that? Palmer is no push over, I can assure you. This team will blow up again and Marvin Lewis has already shown that he can't control a team like this. He'll get the blame in the end and he'll lose his job. All the Bengals need to do now is sign Mike Vick and they will have accomplished "The Longest Yard." And before anyone comments back and says that TO isn't a criminal, he's actually worse. He kills teams locker rooms and starts conflicts with QB's. At least the criminals get suspended and get pushed away from the team to where they can't become toxic.

TexasBoY25
07-27-2010, 10:23 PM
Secondary is weak? With Joseph & Hall, Crocker & Williams there secondary is one of the leagues best.

I don't think they are, They have problems covering big name WRs and TEs.

TexasBoY25
07-27-2010, 10:28 PM
How are the Bengals the best fit for TO? Why, because they'll swallow his crap and let him act like a diva along with his buddy who calls himself Ocho Cinco? Yeah, it might be the best fit for him personally, but it's by far one of the worst situations for that team to have TO there. You've got a HC that already lost that locker room years ago and had a shoving match with the other jack ass WR there, and the Bengals have thrown all caution to the wind when it comes to players by going after Matt Jones, Antonio Bryant, Pac Man Jones, and now TO. They're adding that with Chad Johnson of all people. How in the hell do you think that Palmer is going to deal with that? Palmer is no push over, I can assure you. This team will blow up again and Marvin Lewis has already shown that he can't control a team like this. He'll get the blame in the end and he'll lose his job. All the Bengals need to do now is sign Mike Vick and they will have accomplished "The Longest Yard." And before anyone comments back and says that TO isn't a criminal, he's actually worse. He kills teams locker rooms and starts conflicts with QB's. At least the criminals get suspended and get pushed away from the team to where they can't become toxic.

The thing is that T.O is not going in to be the number 1 WR, he won't even be #2. He's going to come in and make plays when he can and that's it. The bengals are not asking him to have a 1000 yard season and help the offence to score TDs. T.O is there to keep playing, get paid and have fun with OchoCinco. If they don't win T.O will not become that diva, he proved that last year.

Texecutioner
07-27-2010, 10:46 PM
The thing is that T.O is not going in to be the number 1 WR, he won't even be #2. He's going to come in and make plays when he can and that's it. The bengals are not asking him to have a 1000 yard season and help the offence to score TDs. T.O is there to keep playing, get paid and have fun with OchoCinco. If they don't win T.O will not become that diva, he proved that last year.

You think that TO is going to be okay playing that type of role? :spit:


Man, TO would go bananas if he was the 3rd or 4th guy on a team where he has out produced every WR there. He's much better than everyone there other than Johnson. There is no reason why he wouldn't be the #1 or #2 WR if he's there. He still has proven way more than anyone else there. No team would pick up TO to be some 3rd or 4th string WR. They know that he'll bring problems if that happens to him on the depth chart. He'll be the #2 WR for sure starting alongside CJ. It will be a pretty nasty combination, but when things don't run smoothly man o man is Carson going to have some drama on his hands. And Bryant now becomes the odd man out, but he's getting paid any way. Lol! Man, the Bengals just don't ever learn.

TexasBoY25
07-27-2010, 11:09 PM
You think that TO is going to be okay playing that type of role? :spit:


Man, TO would go bananas if he was the 3rd or 4th guy on a team where he has out produced every WR there. He's much better than everyone there other than Johnson. There is no reason why he wouldn't be the #1 or #2 WR if he's there. He still has proven way more than anyone else there. No team would pick up TO to be some 3rd or 4th string WR. They know that he'll bring problems if that happens to him on the depth chart. He'll be the #2 WR for sure starting alongside CJ. It will be a pretty nasty combination, but when things don't run smoothly man o man is Carson going to have some drama on his hands. And Bryant now becomes the odd man out, but he's getting paid any way. Lol! Man, the Bengals just don't ever learn.

if Anthony Bryant is healthy then T.O will be #3 even if he likes it or not. If T.O wanted to be a Top WR for a team he would've taken the pay cut for the Rams or another team that need WR help. I don't think T.O will be any trouble for the Bengals

JB
07-27-2010, 11:12 PM
if Anthony Bryant is healthy then T.O will be #3 even if he likes it or not. If T.O wanted to be a Top WR for a team he would've taken the pay cut for the Rams or another team that need WR help. I don't think T.O will be any trouble for the Bengals

But Bryant is not healthy.

Texecutioner
07-27-2010, 11:19 PM
if Anthony Bryant is healthy then T.O will be #3 even if he likes it or not. If T.O wanted to be a Top WR for a team he would've taken the pay cut for the Rams or another team that need WR help. I don't think T.O will be any trouble for the Bengals

Why??

His history for causing problems is

Niners: Check
eagles: Check
Cowboys: Check
Bills: Check

He wasn't some little angel on the Bills either. He pouted and shouted at people on the sidelines the same way that he did on other teams. They were just such a bottom feeder team that the media left the situation alone after the 4th week of the season because it didn't matter what TO did to the Bills. They were a terrible team with or without his antics. TO's been the #1 guy on every team he's been on and he's been the most selfish WR to ever play in the NFL, and you think that right now he's all of a sudden going to be happy and okay with Bryant being ahead of him on the depth chart? No way is TO okay with that. He's better than Bryant for one, and for two he simply can't handle not taking the lime light. He thirsts for attention.

Lucky
07-27-2010, 11:22 PM
Did someone forget to wake Al Davis from his summer nap? Owens shoulda been a Raider.

CloakNNNdagger
07-27-2010, 11:24 PM
Greatest news of all....................TO is NOT a TEXAN!!!!!!!

JB
07-27-2010, 11:28 PM
Greatest news of all....................TO is NOT a TEXAN!!!!!!!

:woot2:

TexasBoY25
07-27-2010, 11:33 PM
Did someone forget to wake Al Davis from his summer nap? Owens shoulda been a Raider.

why the AL(:trophy::trophy::trophy:)Davis hate? Raiders are having a awesome offseason and can be this year's surprise team

thunderkyss
07-27-2010, 11:38 PM
Sah-Wheet
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a159/Thunderkyss/tosigcopy7sx.png

Lucky
07-27-2010, 11:39 PM
why the AL(:trophy::trophy::trophy:)Davis hate? Raiders are having a awesome offseason and can be this year's surprise team
Anytime is a good time for pie, er Al Davis jokes.

JB
07-27-2010, 11:42 PM
why the AL(:trophy::trophy::trophy:)Davis hate? Raiders are having a awesome offseason and can be this year's surprise team

Like they been saying for the Texans for the past 3 years....Show me!

TexasBoY25
07-27-2010, 11:46 PM
The things about Al Davis is you can love him or hate him but you know who he is and his history. getting back to the main topic, I see most of ya here dont like T.O but we should see at least half way into the season to see how he acts and what kind of numbers he is putting up

TexasBoY25
07-27-2010, 11:48 PM
Like they been saying for the Texans for the past 3 years....Show me!

I can only talk, Im not on that field. I can only hope and support but I do believe!!

Texans time is coming :texflag:

JB
07-27-2010, 11:55 PM
I can only talk, Im not on that field. I can only hope and support but I do believe!!

Texans time is coming :texflag:

That's right bud! All you can do is root for your team and curse your enemies.

I have loved and hated the Raiders through the years of my fandom. Usually hated. But they were always entertaining up until about '98

Texan_Bill
07-27-2010, 11:59 PM
Why??

His history for causing problems is

Niners: Check
eagles: Check
Cowboys: Check
Bills: Check

He wasn't some little angel on the Bills either. He pouted and shouted at people on the sidelines the same way that he did on other teams. They were just such a bottom feeder team that the media left the situation alone after the 4th week of the season because it didn't matter what TO did to the Bills. They were a terrible team with or without his antics. TO's been the #1 guy on every team he's been on and he's been the most selfish WR to ever play in the NFL, and you think that right now he's all of a sudden going to be happy and okay with Bryant being ahead of him on the depth chart? No way is TO okay with that. He's better than Bryant for one, and for two he simply can't handle not taking the lime light. He thirsts for attention.

You (and most people) forget, he also ****ed up the Ravens, too. :rake:

Texecutioner
07-28-2010, 12:34 AM
why the AL(:trophy::trophy::trophy:)Davis hate? Raiders are having a awesome offseason and can be this year's surprise team

I hate AL Davis for what he's done to the Raiders and how he does business. He may have had some successes here and there and be an old school guy, but he's screwed over a lot of coaches and players and tried to screw them out of money and on their contracts. He moves his team around and constantly threatens to do it again and again. He has no loyalty anywhere.

TexasBoY25
07-28-2010, 01:11 AM
I hate AL Davis for what he's done to the Raiders and how he does business. He may have had some successes here and there and be an old school guy, but he's screwed over a lot of coaches and players and tried to screw them out of money and on their contracts. He moves his team around and constantly threatens to do it again and again. He has no loyalty anywhere.

even teams like the 49ers, Cowboys and Steelers who have multiple SB championship dont always win, we all have our ups and downs. yeah we been down for seven season but Davis have more history on winning then anything else. The only coaches he didnt pay were Mike Shanahan and Lane Kiffin and right now i dont feel bad for Kiffin after what he has done since his firing. Davis has also done good, with the league, players, coaches, personel etc.. all Davis want to do is win

George Steinbrenner and Al Davis are soo alike

El Tejano
07-28-2010, 01:18 AM
So he signed a one year deal. If he doesn't work out you can cut him and TO is done for this league. That's the nice part of this deal for the Bengals. If he works out and is able to show professionalism while next to Chad, then he looks good again and everyone will want him.

powerfuldragon
07-28-2010, 03:57 AM
i don't know if the bengals will implode like some in this thread suggest, but one thing's for certain. cincinnati is gonna have an espn friendly season.

Blazing Arrow
07-28-2010, 04:17 AM
If he is around in round 20 of my fantasy draft I'll give him a look.

BIG TORO
07-28-2010, 08:26 AM
I think he is going to screw that team up, I heard on the radio this morning T.O. already tweeted "tell Ocho Cinco Batman is coming" insinuating that T.O. is Batman and Chad Johnson is Robin.



After screwing this team up then he will be a raider! :lol:

TimeKiller
07-28-2010, 08:52 AM
Something about T.O.....and.....a tiger can't change his stripes......

Sigh....I'm just too bored with T.O. to even make fun of him anymore.

Over/Under on the # of games it takes him to pout his way off the team, retire and become the next terrible personality to do halftime commentary on CBS is set at 9.5

TexasBoY25
07-28-2010, 11:28 AM
I think I was wrong about T.O, he might be a problem in Cincy. There are 2 million reasons...his contract is 2 mill but also have a extra 2 mill in incentives that look like this...
60 catches- $333k extra
100 catches- $333k more

900 yards- $333k extra
1300 yards- $333k more

10 TDs- $333k extra
14 TDs- $333k more

so it looks like T.O is going to want some stats, first problem is that the Bengals have too many WR, second..Chad also love stats and demands the ball all the time. trouble in cincy :voodoo:

CloakNNNdagger
07-28-2010, 11:53 AM
I think I was wrong about T.O, he might be a problem in Cincy. There are 2 million reasons...his contract is 2 mill but also have a extra 2 mill in incentives that look like this...
60 catches- $333k extra
100 catches- $333k more

900 yards- $333k extra
1300 yards- $333k more

10 TDs- $333k extra
14 TDs- $333k more

so it looks like T.O is going to want some stats, first problem is that the Bengals have too many WR, second..Chad also love stats and demands the ball all the time. trouble in cincy :voodoo:


It's the poor QB that's going to get the brunt when TO sees he's not reaching his incentives. :popcorn:

HOU-TEX
07-28-2010, 12:01 PM
I had forgotten the Bengals have Pacman in camp too. That organization's really beginning to piss me off. Carson's going to go insane

gtexan02
07-28-2010, 12:12 PM
I had forgotten the Bengals have Pacman in camp too. That organization's really beginning to piss me off. Carson's going to go insane

Carson was the one who wanted TO in the first place

Dutchrudder
07-28-2010, 12:31 PM
As far as I know, Chad Ochocinco and TO are the only two NFL players in the league who have reality TV shows of some sort. Chad has one where he tries to find a nice lady to hook up with, and TO has a show about the dramedy that is his life.

I think the clear winner in all of this is MTV.

TexasBoY25
07-28-2010, 12:37 PM
As far as I know, Chad Ochocinco and TO are the only two NFL players in the league who have reality TV shows of some sort. Chad has one where he tries to find a nice lady to hook up with, and TO has a show about the dramedy that is his life.

I think the clear winner in all of this is MTV.

VH1
also Chad have a iPhone app and T.O is now suppose to be getting one out too. Forget the Jets, HBO hard knocks should be the Bengals again

pissknocker
07-28-2010, 12:42 PM
Poor Jordan Shipley imagine starting your pro career as a wholesome Christian kid, with the idiots on that line. Colts only 4 hours away he could always stay over at his house!

StarStruck
07-28-2010, 02:05 PM
The way I see it is there will be no problems the at least the first two years, and now that TO is nearing the end of his career, his focus will probably be quite different. I can see going out with a bang and concentrating on the hall of fame. At any rate, when reviewing the schedules, I am quite pleased that neither the Cowboys or Texans will be facing that combination this year.

gary
07-28-2010, 02:08 PM
Talent wise this would work but the fact that all three men are clowns it won't work. I honestly think Marvin Lewis is not a bad coach. He knows how to coach but to be a good coach you have to have both talent on your team and control of the locker room. I fear Lewis might lose his job not because he or his team isn't good but things off of the field will begin to fall apart off the field and just become an epic fail. Lewis will be fired either fairly or unfairly you decide but it won't be long. Shipley has to now deal with at least three guys ahead of him on the deapth chart all three of which are pretty much head cases i.e. Kobe and MJ who are probably one of the greastest players of all time in their respected sport as you already know but they are also flat out jerks. Fans tend to look at all of this from a pure talent and winning stand point and guess what they are 100 percent correct in looking at it that way but this team is going to explode off of the field and blow up. That will just lead to other players and coaches having to take the blame for crap they were not even a part of i.e. Marvin, Palmer, and Shipley. But Carson is the one who was behind this move and it won't ever be good quite simply because their attiudes suck badly not at all because they are the ones who suck. Owens is on a downhill slide but might still be good enough the problem is his ego though and because of it I spell one word for this signing that word is trouble based on the past when he was on his own but now he'll have at the very least two partners in crime that can never be a good thing. I don't even see all of these three getting along to begin with this will be a great signing that looks perfect on paper sure but at the end of the day I spell mistake and nothing but JMO.

WWJD
07-28-2010, 02:10 PM
I think Chad and Terrell are good friends. Most likely that will be the team he will fit in well with if that's possible. One year deal, Carson wanted him, they throw the ball alot. Should be interesting .

Texecutioner
07-28-2010, 02:13 PM
The only coaches he didnt pay were Mike Shanahan and Lane Kiffin and right now i dont feel bad for Kiffin after what he has done since his firing.

What you think of Kiffin's actions after he left Oakland has nothing to do with his contract he had with the Raiders and the stipulations that went with it. It's a bad precedent for any NFL owner to screw over a player or a coach on a contract and drag them through a bunch of legal crap. That's called stealing actually and there's no justification for it especially when it happens multiple times. ANd after what Davis put Kiffin through while he was there and all of the medaling he did with the Jamarcus Russell situation, Kiffin deserves his money more than anyone.




Davis has also done good, with the league, players, coaches, personel etc.. all Davis want to do is win

How? By cheating his coaches out of money on their contracts, cheating multiple players out of money on their contracts, and holding cities for ransom with his franchise and constantly threatening to leave them? How many times has he been back and forth from Oakland to LA now? Hell, he's threatened to go back to LA several times in the last few years.

George Steinbrenner and Al Davis are soo alike

Steinbrenner is a far better owner than Al Davis will ever have imagined himself to be.

gary
07-28-2010, 02:19 PM
What you think of Kiffin's actions after he left Oakland has nothing to do with his contract he had with the Raiders and the stipulations that went with it. It's a bad precedent for any NFL owner to screw over a player or a coach on a contract and drag them through a bunch of legal crap. That's called stealing actually and there's no justification for it especially when it happens multiple times. ANd after what Davis put Kiffin through while he was there and all of the medaling he did with the Jamarcus Russell situation, Kiffin deserves his money more than anyone.






How? By cheating his coaches out of money on their contracts, cheating multiple players out of money on their contracts, and holding cities for ransom with his franchise and constantly threatening to leave them? How many times has he been back and forth from Oakland to LA now? Hell, he's threatened to go back to LA several times in the last few years.



Steinbrenner is a far better owner than Al Davis will ever have imagined himself to be.
Read my post above I think you'll enjoy it man.

HOU-TEX
07-28-2010, 02:28 PM
Carson was the one who wanted TO in the first place

Ok, so he's already going insane.....

gary
07-28-2010, 02:37 PM
Exactly, making others crazy and he has not even stepped onto the field yet. Lol.

Dutchrudder
07-28-2010, 02:39 PM
VH1
also Chad have a iPhone app and T.O is now suppose to be getting one out too. Forget the Jets, HBO hard knocks should be the Bengals again

MTV/VH1... Whatever. It's kinda sad that you know that much about either of them.

Texecutioner
07-28-2010, 02:51 PM
Talent wise this would work but the fact that all three men are clowns it won't work. I honestly think Marvin Lewis is not a bad coach. He knows how to coach but to be a good coach you have to have both talent on your team and control of the locker room. I fear Lewis might lose his job not because he or his team isn't good but things off of the field will begin to fall apart off the field and just become an epic fail. Lewis will be fired either fairly or unfairly you decide but it won't be long. Shipley has to now deal with at least three guys ahead of him on the deapth chart all three of which are pretty much head cases i.e. Kobe and MJ who are probably one of the greastest players of all time in their respected sport as you already know but they are also flat out jerks. Fans tend to look at all of this from a pure talent and winning stand point and guess what they are 100 percent correct in looking at it that way but this team is going to explode off of the field and blow up. That will just lead to other players and coaches having to take the blame for crap they were not even a part of i.e. Marvin, Palmer, and Shipley. But Carson is the one who was behind this move and it won't ever be good quite simply because their attiudes suck badly not at all because they are the ones who suck. Owens is on a downhill slide but might still be good enough the problem is his ego though and because of it I spell one word for this signing that word is trouble based on the past when he was on his own but now he'll have at the very least two partners in crime that can never be a good thing. I don't even see all of these three getting along to begin with this will be a great signing that looks perfect on paper sure but at the end of the day I spell mistake and nothing but JMO.

And no one's talking about Antonio Bryant in all of this. That guy's been a hot head for years and is making a lot more money than TO is. Why would they have signed Bryant for all that money if they were thinking that hard on TO? Just crazy. Three mal content WR's all on one team. These three are going to give Carson Palmer so much crap this year. Bryant won't be happy if he's at the #3 spot and neither will TO. Pac Man Jones is on this team and they also signed Matt Jones not that long ago, but he'll probably get cut after this.

And yeah, you're right Marvin Lewis isn't strong enough to handle this. He couldn't handle the implosion that this team had a few years ago and was almost fired. He finally gets the team back on track, and then Brown goes out and signs every trouble making guy on and off the field that he can. Just sad for Lewis, Palmer, and other Bengals fans. This team is going to be such a huge circus that crashes head on.

Texan4Ever
07-28-2010, 02:59 PM
I really hope that everything works out for the Bengals because their fans have been dying for a championship. Either T.O. will get his head in the game or he will suck and drag his team to hell.

gary
07-28-2010, 03:03 PM
And no one's talking about Antonio Bryant in all of this. That guy's been a hot head for years and is making a lot more money than TO is. Why would they have signed Bryant for all that money if they were thinking that hard on TO? Just crazy. Three mal content WR's all on one team. These three are going to give Carson Palmer so much crap this year. Bryant won't be happy if he's at the #3 spot and neither will TO. Pac Man Jones is on this team and they also signed Matt Jones not that long ago, but he'll probably get cut after this.

And yeah, you're right Marvin Lewis isn't strong enough to handle this. He couldn't handle the implosion that this team had a few years ago and was almost fired. He finally gets the team back on track, and then Brown goes out and signs every trouble making guy on and off the field that he can. Just sad for Lewis, Palmer, and other Bengals fans. This team is going to be such a huge circus that crashes head on.I don't know why Carson wanted this anyway and now Jordan is going to be caught up in all of this mess. Unreal. Rep headed your way if it let's me. EDIT it won't let me. Sorry about that.

El Tejano
07-28-2010, 03:29 PM
Saw a First Look show on ESPN. They have Herm Edwards, Skip Bayless, one reporter from Dallas Morning News and a reporter from a Buffal paper. Dang ESPN sounds pissed that TO signed with The Bengals!!! I mean everytime they say something good about TO they interupt with a "yeah but..."

I was just watching, thinking to myself 'what if TO signed with The Jets?' There probably would be a bit of a different tone then huh? More talk about how TO is going to be on Hard Knocks with all the other characters and how The Jets are now a for sure thing to win the Super Bowl.

TexasBoY25
07-28-2010, 06:37 PM
MTV/VH1... Whatever. It's kinda sad that you know that much about either of them.

aww don't cry little girl:facepalm:

TexasBoY25
07-28-2010, 06:58 PM
How? By cheating his coaches out of money on their contracts, cheating multiple players out of money on their contracts, and holding cities for ransom with his franchise and constantly threatening to leave them? How many times has he been back and forth from Oakland to LA now? Hell, he's threatened to go back to LA several times in the last few years.

how?!
First he is the main reason why the NFL is what it is now, he joined the AFL and NFL

History with players and coaches-
he drafted the first latino player- first latino QB
drafted the first black QB- when no one else did
hire the first latino coach- 2x SB champ
hire the first black coach- when no one else did
hire the first woman as chief executive

if you hate him as much as you do you will just keep working around all this history and winning and will keep looking for negative stuff. that is your opinion but Al Davis is already a H.O.F
:clap:

Texecutioner
07-28-2010, 07:14 PM
how?!
First he is the main reason why the NFL is what it is now, he joined the AFL and NFL

History with players and coaches-
he drafted the first latino player- first latino QB
drafted the first black QB- when no one else did
hire the first latino coach- 2x SB champ
hire the first black coach- when no one else did
hire the first woman as chief executive

if you hate him as much as you do you will just keep working around all this history and winning and will keep looking for negative stuff. that is your opinion but Al Davis is already a H.O.F
:clap:

You're the first Raider fan I've ever talked to that still reps AL Davis. It's astonishing actually. The guy single handedly kills this franchise year after year and you applaud him for it and, you've said it was okay to steal from his employees. You've got a lot of things pretty backwards man.

TexasBoY25
07-28-2010, 08:41 PM
You're the first Raider fan I've ever talked to that still reps AL Davis. It's astonishing actually. The guy single handedly kills this franchise year after year and you applaud him for it and, you've said it was okay to steal from his employees. You've got a lot of things pretty backwards man.

Al Davis is the Raiders, talking bad about Davis is talking bad about the Raiders and that is something I will never do. Good bad happy or sad I will be a Raider until I die. No owner out there will do things to make his franchise lose, Davis have over paid players, bring big name players in order to go back to his winning ways. It all comes down to the players on the field and how they play. 2010 WE WILL WIN BABY!!!

Rey
07-28-2010, 08:52 PM
I like the move for the Bengals. I think they'll be fine.

powerfuldragon
07-29-2010, 05:02 AM
this thread makes me want to listen to kraftwerk.

TexasBoY25
07-29-2010, 08:54 AM
Is #81 going to become a issue?? T.O is already crying about wanting to get #81 but that is also Anthony Bryants number and as of now Bryant is not selling his number and still wearing it during camp sessions

Kulluminatii
07-29-2010, 09:13 AM
Al Davis is the Raiders, talking bad about Davis is talking bad about the Raiders and that is something I will never do. Good bad happy or sad I will be a Raider until I die. No owner out there will do things to make his franchise lose, Davis have over paid players, bring big name players in order to go back to his winning ways. It all comes down to the players on the field and how they play. 2010 WE WILL WIN BABY!!!

I was with you until that part. Al Davis has made the Raiders what they are today (for better & worse)...but he definitely isn't the Raiders. The past 7 years will never erase the greatness he has achieved in the past, but it definitely has tarnished his legacy. The great know when to quit and give the reins over to someone else, Davis has yet to do that. He should have hired a GM a few years ago and the Raiders would have never sunk this low.

gary
07-29-2010, 11:50 AM
He missed his flight already that's never a good thing.

Blake
07-29-2010, 12:03 PM
Carson Palmer better step it up this season if he wants to keep everyone happy. Personally I thinkg CP is overrated as a QB. Sure he is tall and has a strong arm, but I am STILL waiting on a breakout fantasy season from him.

BIG TORO
07-29-2010, 12:14 PM
Is #81 going to become a issue?? T.O is already crying about wanting to get #81 but that is also Anthony Bryants number and as of now Bryant is not selling his number and still wearing it during camp sessions

David the Raiders arn't going to win jack right now, and al davis is as wrinkled as the pair I have hanging. Al did do alot for football in the past but the guy has screwed over alot of people, and his chances of seeing his team win another super bowl at his age are slim to None!

As far as TO's number he needs to where a big fat 0!

DexmanC
07-29-2010, 12:29 PM
How many talented castoffs have the Bengals picked up under the
reign of Marvin Lewis? Lots. Ochocinco had live webcam feeds
last year during training camp via his Ustream page (http://www.ustream.tv/ogochocinco). I got to see how Marvin
runs the show. Dude is a DISCIPLINARIAN and an excellent TEACHER.
His players love and respect him, and he's DEFINITELY the
unquestioned leader of the Bengals.

I don't see T.O. tearing the Bengals up, because they have
excellent leadership from Marvin on down.

CloakNNNdagger
07-29-2010, 12:38 PM
Is #81 going to become a issue?? T.O is already crying about wanting to get #81 but that is also Anthony Bryants number and as of now Bryant is not selling his number and still wearing it during camp sessions


NFLN: Terrell Owens buys rights to Bengals' No. 81 from Antonio Bryant (http://content.usatoday.com/communities/thehuddle/post/2010/07/nfln-terrell-owens-buys-rights-to-bengals-no-81-from-antonio-bryant/1)


Terrell Owens will again wear the No. 81 when he dons the jersey of the Cincinnati Bengals this season.

NFL Network analyst Warren Sapp reported that Owens paid an undisclosed amount to fellow Bengals WR Antonio Bryant for the right to wear the uniform number he's used his entire career.

Some of the money, Sapp reported, will be donated to charity.

Owens will be introduced as the newest member of the Bengals on Thursday.
Not all??? Some??? A dollar?? Nah, can't make expectations too high..... $.50

Yankee_In_TX
07-29-2010, 12:45 PM
So did T.O. make his flight today?

TexasBoY25
07-29-2010, 01:25 PM
David the Raiders arn't going to win jack right now, and al davis is as wrinkled as the pair I have hanging. Al did do alot for football in the past but the guy has screwed over alot of people, and his chances of seeing his team win another super bowl at his age are slim to None!

As far as TO's number he needs to where a big fat 0!

thanks for giving out my Identity, you want give out my number too?! I know for everyone here the Raiders suck, Al Davis is the worst owner in Sports history, etc.. Ya can talk, I'm going to stay quite and we'll start this conversation again mid season

CloakNNNdagger
07-29-2010, 02:34 PM
thanks for giving out my Identity, you want give out my number too?! I know for everyone here the Raiders suck, Al Davis is the worst owner in Sports history, etc.. Ya can talk, I'm going to stay quite and we'll start this conversation again mid season


Now my curiosity is really elevated. I'm running straight to the phone book...............Hmmmm.............Here's a "DAVID"........and a phone number...............Oh, here's another "DAVID"............and it has a phone number.........and another "DAVID"...................

ChampionTexan
07-29-2010, 02:40 PM
Now my curiosity is really elevated. I'm running straight to the phone book...............Hmmmm.............Here's a "DAVID"........and a phone number...............Oh, here's another "DAVID"............and it has a phone number.........and another "DAVID"...................

CnD -

That's way old fashioned. It's the internet age. All you've got to do these days is google "David".

Problem Solved.

CloakNNNdagger
07-29-2010, 02:40 PM
So did T.O. make his flight today?

Made it last night. May or may not make it to the field until tomorrow morning.

CloakNNNdagger
07-29-2010, 02:48 PM
CnD -

That's way old fashioned. It's the internet age. All you've got to do these days is google "David".

Problem Solved.

Ignorance is one thing, but all the studying in the world isn't gonna change stupid.

Dang, pay back is Hell. Just noticed your signature. Now you're trying to divulge MY identity. :strangle:

BigBull17
07-29-2010, 02:57 PM
The thing is that T.O is not going in to be the number 1 WR, he won't even be #2. He's going to come in and make plays when he can and that's it. The bengals are not asking him to have a 1000 yard season and help the offence to score TDs. T.O is there to keep playing, get paid and have fun with OchoCinco. If they don't win T.O will not become that diva, he proved that last year.

What part of T.O makes you think he can be a #3 part time wide out? He'll start to complain with that role.

Yankee_In_TX
07-29-2010, 03:05 PM
Made it last night. May or may not make it to the field until tomorrow morning.

I thought ESPN reported he missed it and was flying in today?

BIG TORO
07-29-2010, 03:23 PM
thanks for giving out my Identity, you want give out my number too?! I know for everyone here the Raiders suck, Al Davis is the worst owner in Sports history, etc.. Ya can talk, I'm going to stay quite and we'll start this conversation again mid season

:lol:lol! Davidthe one and only, now we all know who you are! You see if you become a full time Texan fan your wont have to worry about your team being a loser, and your conversations will go alot smoother on here.

By the way his whole name is David Emilio Federico Gonzales Rodriguez Garza Torres-Resendez Jr.

TexasBoY25
07-29-2010, 03:51 PM
:lol:lol! Davidthe one and only, now we all know who you are! You see if you become a full time Texan fan your wont have to worry about your team being a loser, and your conversations will go alot smoother on here.

By the way his whole name is David Emilio Federico Gonzales Rodriguez Garza Torres-Resendez Jr.

LoL you are a fool!!!
How are we losers ? :trophy: :trophy: :trophy:

Texecutioner
07-29-2010, 04:00 PM
LoL you are a fool!!!
How are we losers ? :trophy: :trophy: :trophy:

You're bragging about trophies that you probably weren't even alive for.


There is nothing to brag about for the Raiders right now. They've been the doormat of the league over the last decade. Until Al Davis bites the dust the Raiders will be a bottom feeder. He can't help himself from making irrational decisions all over the place.

TexasBoY25
07-29-2010, 04:11 PM
You're bragging about trophies that you probably weren't even alive for.


There is nothing to brag about for the Raiders right now. They've been the doormat of the league over the last decade. Until Al Davis bites the dust the Raiders will be a bottom feeder. He can't help himself from making irrational decisions all over the place.

Why you always have to come crush my dreams?? I'm a part-time Texans fan so I'm not gonna talk smack. But you right I just missed our 1983 superbowl championship but you know what I have witness a 12 win season so if all you have is a 9 win season at best you don't have much space to talk about bad teams

CloakNNNdagger
07-29-2010, 04:19 PM
I thought ESPN reported he missed it and was flying in today?

Sorry, Yankee, you are right on.:bravo:

Texecutioner
07-29-2010, 04:30 PM
Why you always have to come crush my dreams?? I'm a part-time Texans fan so I'm not gonna talk smack. But you right I just missed our 1983 superbowl championship but you know what I have witness a 12 win season so if all you have is a 9 win season at best you don't have much space to talk about bad teams

I'm not even trying to bag on the Raiders. I actually have rooted for the Raiders a lot in my years of being a football fan. I remember when they had Bo jackson and Marcus Allen in Art Shell's first stint as a HC. I also rooted for them when Gruden was there when they went to the SB. But since Gruden left, Al's butchered that team over and over and he's gotten worse and worse with his dealings with people he hires. There is no reason for me to believe that he's going to all of a sudden change his ways now and go back to making smart sound decisions or where he'll let someone else do it for him.

TexasBoY25
07-29-2010, 04:40 PM
I'm not even trying to bag on the Raiders. I actually have rooted for the Raiders a lot in my years of being a football fan. I remember when they had Bo jackson and Marcus Allen in Art Shell's first stint as a HC. I also rooted for them when Gruden was there when they went to the SB. But since Gruden left, Al's butchered that team over and over and he's gotten worse and worse with his dealings with people he hires. There is no reason for me to believe that he's going to all of a sudden change his ways now and go back to making smart sound decisions or where he'll let someone else do it for him.
:logo:
you win!! Al Davis is a *****, we need a GM and Raiders suck!
Let's get back to Texans :logo: talk
Go Texans!

infantrycak
07-29-2010, 05:31 PM
I also rooted for them when Gruden was there when they went to the SB.

Gruden went to the SB with the Bucs against the Raiders with Callahan as coach.

Kulluminatii
07-29-2010, 05:32 PM
Gruden went to the SB with the Bucs against the Raiders with Callahan as coach.

Ugh, that game was horrible to watch :brickwall:.

Texecutioner
07-29-2010, 05:48 PM
Gruden went to the SB with the Bucs against the Raiders with Callahan as coach.

Yeah, I meant to put the AFC Championship from the year before. Thanks for the correction.

infantrycak
07-29-2010, 06:04 PM
Yeah, I meant to put the AFC Championship from the year before. Thanks for the correction.

It wasn't meant to be ticky tacky. The whole thing just stands out because Gruden went from an almost SB team to an almost SB team and then you get the great debate of how much credit should he get.

TexasBoY25
07-29-2010, 06:23 PM
It wasn't meant to be ticky tacky. The whole thing just stands out because Gruden went from an almost SB team to an almost SB team and then you get the great debate of how much credit should he get.

as good as Tony Dungy was the Buccs traded their 1st and 2nd round picks from 2002, their 1st rounder from 2003, their 2nd rounder from 2004 and 8 million dollars in cash for Gruden. Yeah he deserved every credit, if it wasn't for Gruden no other team could of stopped Rich Gannon. Gruden knew his tricks, he knew our game.

thunderkyss
07-30-2010, 08:47 AM
I think I was wrong about T.O, he might be a problem in Cincy.

so it looks like T.O is going to want some stats, first problem is that the Bengals have too many WR, second..Chad also love stats and demands the ball all the time. trouble in cincy :voodoo:

I remember watching NFL Total Access after the Bengals played the Jets in the play-offs. They were of the consensus, that Cincy's biggest problem, is that they had no one to go over the middle. That was where Houshmandzada(sp) made his living.

That's what T.O. brings, that none of their other WRs bring.

So I don't believe it is going to be an issue of how many WRs the Bengals have, but the type.

& Terrell is the right type.

thunderkyss
07-30-2010, 09:14 AM
Shipley has to now deal with at least three guys ahead of him on the deapth chart all three of which are pretty much head cases i.e.

That's not exactly true. There are three wide receiver positions. The X, Y, & Z positions. Not many WRs in the league can play all three. Wes Welker may be the most versatile in the league right now, but he'll never play in Randy Moss's spot.

IMHO, Shipley won't be behind Ocho Cinco on the depth chart, because he does not play that position. Antonio Bryant does. T.O. is the only
X receiver that should be ahead of Shipley on the depth chart, a physical WR that can play on the L.O.S.

Then you have your slot (Y) receiver. It is totally possible, that Shipley could start as the Y.

Anyone of those receivers go down (due to injury), and Shipley is in (if he's deemed worthy).

So technically, there is only one receiver ahead of Shipley.


Fans tend to look at all of this from a pure talent and winning stand point and guess what they are 100 percent correct in looking at it that way but this team is going to explode off of the field and blow up.

I don't think that is fair. I simply don't believe his "antics" are as bad as what the media makes them out to be. I've never seen him complain about not getting the ball, when they were winning. When they are loosing, and they aren't throwing him the ball, I'm on the sideline complaining with him.
Owens is on a downhill slide but might still be good enough the problem is his ego though and because of it I spell one word for this signing that word is trouble based on the past when he was on his own but now he'll have at the very least two partners in crime that can never be a good thing. I don't even see all of these three getting along to begin with this will be a great signing that looks perfect on paper sure but at the end of the day I spell mistake and nothing but JMO.

Ocho Cinco has never got in any kind of trouble off the field. He jokes, he kids, he keeps the game light... ain't nothing wrong with that.

Terrell Owens has never got in any kind of trouble off the field. He's honest, he's determined, and he is dedicated to the game of football, and to winning. What could possibly wrong with that?

Antonio Bryant... I really haven't heard anything bad about him, since he threw the towel in Parcell's face. I don't know if there is a problem there.

All I can say....



Better get your popcorn ready.

thunderkyss
07-30-2010, 09:25 AM
thanks for giving out my Identity, you want give out my number too?! I know for everyone here the Raiders suck, Al Davis is the worst owner in Sports history, etc.. Ya can talk, I'm going to stay quite and we'll start this conversation again mid season

Not everyone here. I'm with you. I like owners like Jerry Jones, and Al Davis, and Like you I put them up there with Steinbrenner (sp). They've made some moves, some didn't work out. If you've been in this game as long as A.D. has, you're going to make some mistakes.

It's not like the KC Chiefs have been the beacon of all that is good in the NFL. They've had their up and down years as well.

Some people just let the media get into their heads, and tell them what to think.

I think Tom Cable is the perfect guy for the job that has become what the HC of the Oakland Raiders has become. Guy will knock you on your ass if you get out of line.

Al Davis is the man.

But forgive me, if I don't go on & on about it on a Texans MB.

TexasBoY25
07-30-2010, 12:14 PM
Not everyone here. I'm with you. I like owners like Jerry Jones, and Al Davis, and Like you I put them up there with Steinbrenner (sp). They've made some moves, some didn't work out. If you've been in this game as long as A.D. has, you're going to make some mistakes.

It's not like the KC Chiefs have been the beacon of all that is good in the NFL. They've had their up and down years as well.

Some people just let the media get into their heads, and tell them what to think.

I think Tom Cable is the perfect guy for the job that has become what the HC of the Oakland Raiders has become. Guy will knock you on your ass if you get out of line.

Al Davis is the man.

But forgive me, if I don't go on & on about it on a Texans MB.

I have to give your some respect & rep. I understand i am in the wrong website to talk about the Raiders but I have to stand in what I believe and who I am. but its cool there are others out there that supports us

El Tejano
07-30-2010, 03:04 PM
NFL Network was showing live scenes of his first practice in Cincy. This is almost worse than Favre watch.

TexasBoY25
07-30-2010, 03:29 PM
NFL Network was showing live scenes of his first practice in Cincy. This is almost worse than Favre watch.

The thing with that is that Adam Schefter and Chris Mortensen are going to every teams camp site and today they were at cincy. Mortensen will be at Texans camp tomorrow and Adam at the bears

gary
07-31-2010, 08:56 PM
That's not exactly true. There are three wide receiver positions. The X, Y, & Z positions. Not many WRs in the league can play all three. Wes Welker may be the most versatile in the league right now, but he'll never play in Randy Moss's spot.

IMHO, Shipley won't be behind Ocho Cinco on the depth chart, because he does not play that position. Antonio Bryant does. T.O. is the only
X receiver that should be ahead of Shipley on the depth chart, a physical WR that can play on the L.O.S.

Then you have your slot (Y) receiver. It is totally possible, that Shipley could start as the Y.

Anyone of those receivers go down (due to injury), and Shipley is in (if he's deemed worthy).

So technically, there is only one receiver ahead of Shipley.

I don't think that is fair. I simply don't believe his "antics" are as bad as what the media makes them out to be. I've never seen him complain about not getting the ball, when they were winning. When they are loosing, and they aren't throwing him the ball, I'm on the sideline complaining with him.


Ocho Cinco has never got in any kind of trouble off the field. He jokes, he kids, he keeps the game light... ain't nothing wrong with that.

Terrell Owens has never got in any kind of trouble off the field. He's honest, he's determined, and he is dedicated to the game of football, and to winning. What could possibly wrong with that?

Antonio Bryant... I really haven't heard anything bad about him, since he threw the towel in Parcell's face. I don't know if there is a problem there.

All I can say....



Better get your popcorn ready.TO has brought teams DOWN and acted a fool. The guy is good but he's a jerk. You may be right but Ownes already bitched about wearing 81 on his back. All three are great but complete clowns. He basically forced the Ravens to deal him to the EAGLES. And Bryant on one hand is injury prone. TO and Chad are both ball hogs too. Shipley having to deal with asshats was my main point here not the X, Y, and Z stuff because you're correct about that. Don't think Owens did not act up with the Bills last season you just did not here about it because the Bills are not too good of a team but it was present then as well. It must be why I have a friend who works for our Texans with a shirt which reads word for word want to cure lockeroom cancer cut TO which is pretty funny to me and exactly on target. I just laughed when he told me he ownes the shirt.:clap:

ubecool454
07-31-2010, 09:28 PM
Antonio Bryant... I really haven't heard anything bad about him, since he threw the towel in Parcell's face. I don't know if there is a problem there.

All I can say....



Better get your popcorn ready.

Antonio Bryant got released by Dallas because of the towel toss in Parcells face, then he couldn't get along with Nolan in SF, then he was tossed for failed drug test then he was tagged by the Bucs and stayed hurt all year. Now you heard something bad about him. He did have a super year in 2008 and thats about all thats good with him. T.O. can easily be the #2 WR on that team. Should be interesting and entertaining with T.O. and Chad

ubecool454
07-31-2010, 09:33 PM
TO has brought teams DOWN and acted a fool. The guy is good but he's a jerk. You may be right but Ownes already bitched about wearing 81 on his back. All three are great but complete clowns. He basically forced the Ravens to deal him to the EAGLES. And Bryant on one hand is injury prone. TO and Chad are both ball hogs too. Shipley having to deal with asshats was my main point here not the X, Y, and Z stuff because you're correct about that. Don't think Owens did not act up with the Bills last season you just did not here about it because the Bills are not too good of a team but it was present then as well. It must be why I have a friend who works for our Texans with a shirt which reads word for word want to cure lockeroom cancer cut TO which is pretty funny to me and exactly on target. I just laughed when he told me he ownes the shirt.:clap:

Shipley = Slot receiver. They will use him like the Texans use David Anderson.

gary
07-31-2010, 09:47 PM
Antonio Bryant got released by Dallas because of the towel toss in Parcells face, then he couldn't get along with Nolan in SF, then he was tossed for failed drug test then he was tagged by the Bucs and stayed hurt all year. Now you heard something bad about him. He did have a super year in 2008 and thats about all thats good with him. T.O. can easily be the #2 WR on that team. Should be interesting and entertaining with T.O. and ChadI do remember all of this I just did not want to go into all of these stories.

Shipley = Slot receiver. They will use him like the Texans use David Anderson.This I know. Just wanted to let you know not being smart with you here. Thank you.