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gwallaia
06-10-2010, 11:23 PM
Coogs will possibly play at Reliant for two years while construction is underway.

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/college/houston/7046830.html

b0ng
06-10-2010, 11:32 PM
I wish this would be good enough to propel them into a better conference than the C-USA but alas, I think it's too late for that.

:cry:

treduke
06-11-2010, 01:27 AM
they'll have the sweetest stadiums in c-usa! or maybe the "new" big 12?

gg no re
06-11-2010, 01:31 AM
Hopefully UH holds off on mucking up any parking situations related to this project until after I get my masters

gg no re
06-11-2010, 01:33 AM
Dear Rena Khator and UH administration,

Build some new parking lots before you destroy the ones around Robertson. Don't bungle this up again like you did with the new dorms.

Yankee_In_TX
06-11-2010, 10:20 AM
Dear Rena Khator and UH administration,

Build some new parking lots before you destroy the ones around Robertson. Don't bungle this up again like you did with the new dorms.

You mean destroying the business school/law school parking lot for un needed dorms, BEFORE a plan for dorm parking had been put into place?

And running headlines in the school paper like 'un-used parking spaces being wasted at TSU.'

Yeah, because as a commuter student I really want to park at a nearby college and shuttle over to the law school. It was such a joke. The powers that be's opinion was as long as there is a parking space SOME WHERE for each student on campus, the school is ok.

I said in on a lot of meetings about that, they just didn't care.

nero THE zero
06-11-2010, 12:01 PM
Hopefully UH holds off on mucking up any parking situations related to this project until after I get my masters

Agreed. I have a couple of years to go, so I don't think I'll be so lucky.

GuerillaBlack
06-11-2010, 12:51 PM
You mean destroying the business school/law school parking lot for un needed dorms, BEFORE a plan for dorm parking had been put into place?

And running headlines in the school paper like 'un-used parking spaces being wasted at TSU.'

Yeah, because as a commuter student I really want to park at a nearby college and shuttle over to the law school. It was such a joke. The powers that be's opinion was as long as there is a parking space SOME WHERE for each student on campus, the school is ok.

I said in on a lot of meetings about that, they just didn't care.

This is where Metro's light rail line comes in. Lets hope it finishes before the stadium opens. It'll improve mobility around UH and TSU greatly. There are actually two lines that will cross UH now that I think about it. That may be why they are a little lax on the parking situation.

Yankee_In_TX
06-11-2010, 01:41 PM
This is where Metro's light rail line comes in. Lets hope it finishes before the stadium opens. It'll improve mobility around UH and TSU greatly. There are actually two lines that will cross UH now that I think about it. That may be why they are a little lax on the parking situation.

If I am a commuter student - IE I may drive down to campus for one or two classes at a time, I surely don't want to have to park and wait on a train.

That's their problem, despite being a 'working man's' school and commuter campus, they're trying to act like they are not.

Just too darned unsafe to be a normal campus IMHO.

gg no re
06-11-2010, 06:57 PM
If I am a commuter student - IE I may drive down to campus for one or two classes at a time, I surely don't want to have to park and wait on a train.

That's their problem, despite being a 'working man's' school and commuter campus, they're trying to act like they are not.

Just too darned unsafe to be a normal campus IMHO.

FYI my SGA buddies tell me that when UH is finished with all the campus remodeling in 2020 with new parking garages and all that crap, we're gonna enjoy a net gain of +200 parking spaces

b0ng
06-12-2010, 11:42 PM
Are you guys saying that you aren't feeling good about a new stadium + renovations to Hoffeinz? (Not like it'll actually happen)

gg no re
06-13-2010, 01:51 AM
Are you guys saying that you aren't feeling good about a new stadium + renovations to Hoffeinz? (Not like it'll actually happen)

We aren't excited that it's the UH administration in charge of it.

Yankee_In_TX
06-13-2010, 02:02 PM
Are you guys saying that you aren't feeling good about a new stadium + renovations to Hoffeinz? (Not like it'll actually happen)

As I am no longer a student there, I don't care how bad it messes up parking and traffic for student :kitten: I'm all for a new stadium!!

gwallaia
06-13-2010, 09:26 PM
Are you guys saying that you aren't feeling good about a new stadium + renovations to Hoffeinz? (Not like it'll actually happen)

I'm feeling good about it!

Hooston Texan
06-15-2010, 10:02 AM
I'd love to see UH's facilities upgraded, but this plan is right out of a Steve Martin SNL skit: How to Have a Million Dollars and Not Pay Taxes.

We could call this plan, "How to Build/Renovate Outdated Athletic Facilities for $160 Million". It's steps are:
First, get $160 million.
Second, start building things to look like these pretty drawings.

The money part is going to be far, far easier said than done. Hopefully, they'll come through, but this is not going to be the easiest time to raise money.

Hookem Horns
06-19-2010, 11:36 AM
Man, I come to Spain 3 weeks ago, all of last week had little access to the internet, I come back to Madrid where I now have access and see all this stuff that has happened in college football since I left.

So the Big 12 almost imploded and then it didn't? Nebraska and Colorado have left and ESPN is saying out of all of this Texas came out a winner? Maybe the school and the program fiscally but not the fans. I would rather see Texas in a conference with better teams. We are still stuck with Baylor, Iowa State, etc.

OK, so why I am I posting this in this thread? Because MAYBE this finally the thing that puts UH in the Big 12. I have been wanting that for years. So is there any talk of that now? Surely Houston can get in now and have a chance to become a national power again.

GuerillaBlack
06-20-2010, 11:09 AM
If I am a commuter student - IE I may drive down to campus for one or two classes at a time, I surely don't want to have to park and wait on a train.

That's their problem, despite being a 'working man's' school and commuter campus, they're trying to act like they are not.

Just too darned unsafe to be a normal campus IMHO.

I see what you're saying. UH's plan is to become less of a commuter school though. I think it can happen, as it has been happening to UT-Arlington for a couple of years. UH is in a better position than they are.

Yankee_In_TX
06-22-2010, 03:57 PM
I see what you're saying. UH's plan is to become less of a commuter school though. I think it can happen, as it has been happening to UT-Arlington for a couple of years. UH is in a better position than they are.

Then they would have to close the 5th ward. The UHPD updates are scary as Hell. violent daylight mugging, violent night mugging, violent sexual assualt, dead bum, all before Tuesday!

Texan_Bill
06-22-2010, 08:42 PM
TCU and UH - Big XII makes sense to me. Steal Arkansas from the SEC as their not really happy. I know that makes it 13, but surely we can invite another team...... *SIGH* I guess I'm just wanting to see a lot of the SWC teams back together... Silly me.....


*remembers*

Arkansas (1915-1991)
Baylor (1915-1996)
Houston (1971-1975 played but not eligible for football title, 1976-1996)
Oklahoma (1915-1919)
Oklahoma A&M (1915-1925) I believe that's now OSU.
Rice (1915-1917 provisional, 1918-1996)
Southern Methodist (1918-1996)
Texas (1915-1996)
Texas A&M (1915-1996)
TCU (1923-1996)
Texas Tech (1956-1957 played but not eligible for football title, 1958-1996)

Rice and SMU have some work to do do, but......... anything is possible.

mexican_texan
06-22-2010, 09:23 PM
Then they would have to close the 5th ward. The UHPD updates are scary as Hell. violent daylight mugging, violent night mugging, violent sexual assualt, dead bum, all before Tuesday!

It's not safe, but I LOVE the fitness center.

From what I understand, the light rail will destroy the surrounding neighborhoods with higher taxes. I'll admit, it's a bit disturbing to drive around UH and see mansions in between horrible neighborhoods.

Mr teX
06-23-2010, 10:24 AM
For those screaming about parking, that's a problem at most campuses even those who seemingly have plentiful parking. Anyone who's had to hitch hike to class from 1 of Texas A&M's parking lots on the outskirts of campus can tell you that.

Everyone's also making the assumption that this all started because of conference realignment and whatnot which can't be further from the truth imo. This has been a long time coming but got pushed to the front burner because Tom "crazy hair" Penders skewered the school in the press about hophienz's garbage facilities right before the NCAA tournament this year.School officials got egg on their face and now have vowed to do something about it come hell or high water, when in reality, something should've been done about it a long time ago.

Another thing is that you're going to have campus crime no matter what campus you're at & i have a hard time believing that UH's is significantly higher than any other campus's just b/c it's located next to a poor neighborhood with a bad reputation from the 80's. Especially with how open University campuses are these days. I went there for 5 years, parked all over the place & didn't come close to having anything happening to me. Ditto for many of my friends who went there. As someone said in one of their comments to the article "poor people aren't out to get you folks."

Obviously as a UH alum, I like the idea even if the stadium will only seat a maximum of 50,000 it just needs to happen. Everyone knows that the big time money in college sports is located in a schools football program & if upgrading the facilities helps us to gain entrance into a better conference thereby getting some meaningful college football & basketball games back in town, i'm all for it. Yeah, it's a commuter's school In a big city, but that doesn't mean we can't compete reasonably well. Miami & USC over the years have shown us that you can.

Texan_Bill
06-23-2010, 10:49 AM
For those screaming about parking, that's a problem at most campuses even those who seemingly have plentiful parking. Anyone who's had to hitch hike to class from 1 of Texas A&M's parking lots on the outskirts of campus can tell you that.

Everyone's also making the assumption that this all started because of conference realignment and whatnot which can't be further from the truth imo. This has been a long time coming but got pushed to the front burner because Tom "crazy hair" Penders skewered the school in the press about hophienz's garbage facilities right before the NCAA tournament this year.School officials got egg on their face and now have vowed to do something about it come hell or high water, when in reality, something should've been done about it a long time ago.

Another thing is that you're going to have campus crime no matter what campus you're at & i have a hard time believing that UH's is significantly higher than any other campus's just b/c it's located next to a poor neighborhood with a bad reputation from the 80's. Especially with how open University campuses are these days. I went there for 5 years, parked all over the place & didn't come close to having anything happening to me. Ditto for many of my friends who went there. As someone said in one of their comments to the article "poor people aren't out to get you folks."

Obviously as a UH alum, I like the idea even if the stadium will only seat a maximum of 50,000 it just needs to happen. Everyone knows that the big time money in college sports is located in a schools football program & if upgrading the facilities helps us to gain entrance into a better conference thereby getting some meaningful college football & basketball games back in town, i'm all for it. Yeah, it's a commuter's school In a big city, but that doesn't mean we can't compete reasonably well. Miami & USC over the years have shown us that you can.

It's just a wrong perception. UH doesn't even rank in the top 50 of most violent crime ridden schools. The perception (which is wrong) comes from a high profile murder; The homeless guy that was shot at a bus stop...

100 Most Dangerous American Colleges (http://www.american-school-search.com/colleges/dangerous)

Dilema in the 3rd Ward: How Safe is UH? (http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/metropolitan/6470044.html)

Mr teX
06-23-2010, 10:57 AM
It's just a wrong perception. UH doesn't even rank in the top 50 of most violent crime ridden schools. The perception (which is wrong) comes from a high profile murder; The homeless guy that was shot at a bus stop...

100 Most Dangerous American Colleges (http://www.american-school-search.com/colleges/dangerous)

Dilema in the 3rd Ward: How Safe is UH? (http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/metropolitan/6470044.html)

Good Post TB. I see michigan is high on the list which doesn't surprise me since this guy along with one of his buddies was roaming their campus as a felon in the prime of his bank robbing career.
http://www.streetgangs.com/movies/pics/chaz.jpg

Texan_Bill
06-23-2010, 11:17 AM
Good Post TB. I see michigan is high on the list which doesn't surprise me since this guy along with one of his buddies was roaming their campus as a felon in the prime of his bank robbing career.
http://www.streetgangs.com/movies/pics/chaz.jpg

I saw a documentary about this guy and his crew at Michigan. Nice inmate program. Send them to college unsupervised... BRILLIANT!!

Goldensilence
06-23-2010, 12:34 PM
It's just a wrong perception. UH doesn't even rank in the top 50 of most violent crime ridden schools. The perception (which is wrong) comes from a high profile murder; The homeless guy that was shot at a bus stop...

100 Most Dangerous American Colleges (http://www.american-school-search.com/colleges/dangerous)

Dilema in the 3rd Ward: How Safe is UH? (http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/metropolitan/6470044.html)

Interesting article with some surprising colleges making the top 100.

Dartmouth
Princeton
Cornell
Yale
Harvard
Vanderbilt

Granted I don't know their grading system.

Yankee_In_TX
06-23-2010, 12:55 PM
It's just a wrong perception. UH doesn't even rank in the top 50 of most violent crime ridden schools. The perception (which is wrong) comes from a high profile murder; The homeless guy that was shot at a bus stop...

100 Most Dangerous American Colleges (http://www.american-school-search.com/colleges/dangerous)

Dilema in the 3rd Ward: How Safe is UH? (http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/metropolitan/6470044.html)

I disagree with the rankings.

1. Never heard of most of those schools.

2. Most list 'forcible sex offenses.' While not condoning things like sexual assault and rape, a lot of students at big schools put themselves in the bad situation. I don't mean people deserve things, but that they make choices to get to the bad situation. With U of H crimes people get nailed walking to their cars. You can't not go to your car. My perception is that crime at U of H is more violent and random than most 'real' schools on that list.

The wife and I still get police blotter e-mails, it is scary crap.

Yankee_In_TX
06-23-2010, 12:59 PM
For those screaming about parking, that's a problem at most campuses even those who seemingly have plentiful parking. Anyone who's had to hitch hike to class from 1 of Texas A&M's parking lots on the outskirts of campus can tell you that.

Most schools are't commuter schools. U of H is dedicated to the 'working man' and 'night classes.' Unless that has changed, most students do not live on campus and therefore parking should be more readily available IMHO.

When I drove to Ohio State my senior year it was a nightmare finding parking. However, that was my choice. There was PLENTY of acceptable on and off campus housing withing walking/biking distance of the school. As for a long hike from one class to the next, OSU had a shuttle system for 'west campus.' Maybe A&M needs one :) (the entire rest of the campus is 12 minutes walking one end to the other)

eriadoc
06-23-2010, 02:24 PM
With U of H crimes people get nailed walking to their cars. You can't not go to your car. My perception is that crime at U of H is more violent and random than most 'real' schools on that list.

The wife and I still get police blotter e-mails, it is scary crap.

Yep. I don't give a damn what statistics say. I'll tell y'all what I said in a letter to campus security: your safety statistics don't do one bit of good for the people who have been robbed, raped, and killed. Your "security cameras" are in actuality "forensics cameras". Learn the difference, for all our sakes.

Stats don't mean much when you're one of the ones having to walk to the car with your head on a swivel.

Texan_Bill
06-23-2010, 05:07 PM
I disagree with the rankings.

1. Never heard of most of those schools.

2. Most list 'forcible sex offenses.' While not condoning things like sexual assault and rape, a lot of students at big schools put themselves in the bad situation. I don't mean people deserve things, but that they make choices to get to the bad situation. With U of H crimes people get nailed walking to their cars. You can't not go to your car. My perception is that crime at U of H is more violent and random than most 'real' schools on that list.

The wife and I still get police blotter e-mails, it is scary crap.

*sigh*

Ummmmm Forcible sex offenses are much more violent than having someone gank your laptop.

Thanks for proving the articles correct by using the term "perception". I think you're just a little miffed because Ohio State was on one of the lists. ;)

Texan_Bill
06-23-2010, 05:12 PM
Yep. I don't give a damn what statistics say. I'll tell y'all what I said in a letter to campus security: your safety statistics don't do one bit of good for the people who have been robbed, raped, and killed. Your "security cameras" are in actuality "forensics cameras". Learn the difference, for all our sakes.

Stats don't mean much when you're one of the ones having to walk to the car with your head on a swivel.

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight... Yeah because crime statistics don't mean a damn thing. :rolleyes:


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Well all the little scaredy cats can avoid going to Coogs games but I'll keep going. Whaaaaaaaaaa :cry2:

eriadoc
06-23-2010, 05:28 PM
Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight... Yeah because crime statistics don't mean a damn thing. :rolleyes:

Sure they mean something - to the people who weren't victims.

The part that pisses me off about the UH situation is that there are things they could be doing, but they refuse.

GuerillaBlack
06-23-2010, 05:43 PM
TCU and UH - Big XII makes sense to me. Steal Arkansas from the SEC as their not really happy. I know that makes it 13, but surely we can invite another team...... *SIGH* I guess I'm just wanting to see a lot of the SWC teams back together... Silly me.....


*remembers*

Arkansas (1915-1991)
Baylor (1915-1996)
Houston (1971-1975 played but not eligible for football title, 1976-1996)
Oklahoma (1915-1919)
Oklahoma A&M (1915-1925) I believe that's now OSU.
Rice (1915-1917 provisional, 1918-1996)
Southern Methodist (1918-1996)
Texas (1915-1996)
Texas A&M (1915-1996)
TCU (1923-1996)
Texas Tech (1956-1957 played but not eligible for football title, 1958-1996)

Rice and SMU have some work to do do, but......... anything is possible.

What was the point of this breakup again? The monies?

Texan_Bill
06-23-2010, 05:56 PM
What was the point of this breakup again? The monies?

Well, it really started with a bunch of recruiting violations throughout the conference. Most severe was SMU, was the biggest offender of all, being sentenced the "Death-Penalty". Subsequently, Arkansas bailed and other than Texas and Texas A&M attendance had started to dwindle.

Texan_Bill
06-23-2010, 06:01 PM
Sure they mean something - to the people who weren't victims.

The part that pisses me off about the UH situation is that there are things they could be doing, but they refuse.

Other than having 500 cameras, 45 Campus police officers, 19 security officers and separate parking lot security, what more can they do?? I guess maybe they could hire a few more cops.

Texan_Bill
06-23-2010, 06:03 PM
Look, I'm not suggesting that the 3rd Ward is completely safe. Just don't wander north of Elgin or west / Southwest (i.e.) TSU.

At A&M I had 0 things happen. At SHSU my vehicle was burglarized twice. At UH, 0, nada...

Yankee_In_TX
06-23-2010, 06:10 PM
*sigh*

Ummmmm Forcible sex offenses are much more violent than having someone gank your laptop.

Thanks for proving the articles correct by using the term "perception". I think you're just a little miffed because Ohio State was on one of the lists. ;)

Are you kidding me? With all the couch burning, petty theft, minor in possessions, etc., at one of the country's largest universities I would ASSUME OSU would be on the list. Also an urban campus.

I'd like to see a comparison of violent and random crimes. I think U of H would be comparatively very dangerous. I could be wrong, but we may never know.

Texan_Bill
06-23-2010, 06:23 PM
Are you kidding me? With all the couch burning, petty theft, minor in possessions, etc., at one of the country's largest universities I would ASSUME OSU would be on the list. Also an urban campus.

I'd like to see a comparison of violent and random crimes. I think U of H would be comparatively very dangerous. I could be wrong, but we may never know.

There were several large schools not listed. I don't think Notre Dame or Nebraska were listed, although not urban campuses. I don't think the size of the school mattered as I thought it was based on per capita incidents.

Actually I would too... Until then, any opinion (including the misperception that UH is maven for violent crime) is just speculation.


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Like I said, if you don't wander north of Elgin and too far west and a little south (Close to TSU), you are no more at risk than just about any other college campus.

Texan_Bill
06-23-2010, 06:31 PM
BTW, here is a link to University of Houston Department of Safety 2008 Annual Security Report (http://www.uh.edu/police/UHDPS_Annual_Report_2008.pdf), that every University is required to submit by October of each year.


*EDIT*

Compare to LSU: Louissina State University Security Report (http://appl003.lsu.edu/PubSafety/lsupolice.nsf/$Content/Clery+Info/$file/2009+Annual+Security+Report.pdf) (covering the same 3 year period).

UH's student population is slightly larger than that of LSU's, but close enough for comparison's sake.

Mr teX
06-23-2010, 07:31 PM
I disagree with the rankings.

1. Never heard of most of those schools.

2. Most list 'forcible sex offenses.' While not condoning things like sexual assault and rape, a lot of students at big schools put themselves in the bad situation. I don't mean people deserve things, but that they make choices to get to the bad situation. With U of H crimes people get nailed walking to their cars. You can't not go to your car. My perception is that crime at U of H is more violent and random than most 'real' schools on that list.

The wife and I still get police blotter e-mails, it is scary crap.

The most violent crimes committed on college campuses were committed by students. i.e. people who "belonged" on campus.

I'm sure if polled at the time, people at the university of texas in the 60's would've thought their campus was pretty safe until Charles Whitman decided to climb a building and shoot at people. I would wager that the majority of VA tech students thought the same prior to Seung hui Cho in 2007.

But as far as people getting "nailed" walking to their cars at UH, how do you even know the people committing these crimes are from the 3rd ward area?

I only say that to get to my larger point: doesn't matter where you're at, safety is an illusion anywhere you go, especially at places like college campuses which are completely open for anyone from anywhere to walk up & do their worst. Bottom line is you should take the same precautions you would walking around ANY campus as if you were walking around in a large parking lot for a Wal-Mart, Costco or any other mini-mall.

Like TB, im not saying that the surrounding area is like the hamptons, but it's not "Cops: city under seige" either.

Mr teX
06-23-2010, 07:37 PM
BTW, here is a link to University of Houston Department of Safety 2008 Annual Security Report (http://www.uh.edu/police/UHDPS_Annual_Report_2008.pdf), that every University is required to submit by October of each year.


*EDIT*

Compare to LSU: Louissina State University Security Report (http://appl003.lsu.edu/PubSafety/lsupolice.nsf/$Content/Clery+Info/$file/2009+Annual+Security+Report.pdf) (covering the same 3 year period).

UH's student population is slightly larger than that of LSU's, but close enough for comparison's sake.

Not even close...

Texan_Bill
06-23-2010, 09:01 PM
Not even close...

Talk to me... What do ya mean "Not even close"??

gg no re
06-23-2010, 09:18 PM
Just want to point out that just the perception of UH being a dangerous campus is bad enough for the school's image, regardless of statistics, facts, or real talk.

Pretty much no way to fix that in the mind of the average person until Third Ward gets demolished.

eriadoc
06-23-2010, 09:19 PM
Bottom line is you should take the same precautions you would walking around ANY campus as if you were walking around in a large parking lot for a Wal-Mart, Costco or any other mini-mall.


Not permitted to by the school.

Texan_Bill
06-23-2010, 09:27 PM
Just want to point out that just the perception of UH being a dangerous campus is bad enough for the school's image, regardless of statistics, facts, or real talk.

Pretty much no way to fix that in the mind of the average person until Third Ward gets demolished.

The average person should spend time on campus before thinking such perceptions are reality. I wonder how many people actually looked at the side by side security reports of UH and LSU that I posted?

I looked at crime map (forget where), but actually the HBU area had more reported murders in it's surrounding areas than that of UH.

Texan_Bill
06-23-2010, 09:28 PM
Not permitted to by the school.

:mcnugget: WTF does that mean??

Mr teX
06-23-2010, 09:33 PM
Talk to me... What do ya mean "Not even close"??

i meant the numbers for burglary for LSU is pretty much double what UH had... at least that's what i saw in my brief glance at the statistics.

Texan_Bill
06-23-2010, 09:45 PM
i meant the numbers for burglary for LSU is pretty much double what UH had... at least that's what i saw in my brief glance at the statistics.

Right. I gotcha. Were or are you surprised that LSU's student pop, is less than UH's?? Isn't it funny that LSU is in Baton Rouge, which is a college town while UH is in the "ghetto"???

JB
06-23-2010, 09:54 PM
Right. I gotcha. Were or are you surprised that LSU's student pop, is less than UH's?? Isn't it funny that LSU is in Baton Rouge, which is a college town while UH is in the "ghetto"???

Kinda did me, but then again, LSU is in Baton Rouge, and UH is in Houston...

Mr teX
06-23-2010, 09:59 PM
Right. I gotcha. Were or are you surprised that LSU's student pop, is less than UH's?? Isn't it funny that LSU is in Baton Rouge, which is a college town while UH is in the "ghetto"???

i actually was..with it being THE big state school of Louisiana and all. Regardless, it just goes to what you and i have been saying. Doesn't matter where you're at, criminal turds are everywhere. I'd be interested to see what USC's looks like as their campus is located right next to the infamous Watts neighborhood.

eriadoc
06-23-2010, 10:20 PM
:mcnugget: WTF does that mean??

Let's just say that if you wanted to mug me, your chances of survival would skyrocket if you did it on the UH campus vs. if you tried it damn near anywhere else. I'll leave it at that.

Texan_Bill
06-23-2010, 11:02 PM
Let's just say that if you wanted to mug me, your chances of survival would skyrocket if you did it on the UH campus vs. if you tried it damn near anywhere else. I'll leave it at that.

Really?? Where's the evidence of that??? :rolleyes:

Texan_Bill
06-23-2010, 11:04 PM
i actually was..with it being THE big state school of Louisiana and all. Regardless, it just goes to what you and i have been saying. Doesn't matter where you're at, criminal turds are everywhere. I'd be interested to see what USC's looks like as their campus is located right next to the infamous Watts neighborhood.

Exactly!!! There are some people with some sort of agenda to prove a point.....................
and yet, they can't!

eriadoc
06-24-2010, 12:19 AM
Really?? Where's the evidence of that??? :rolleyes:

LOL, give it some thought.

Yankee_In_TX
06-24-2010, 08:45 AM
We can all agree to disagree.

But when I was at OSU there weren't 1-3 gunpoint muggings weekly. ESPECIALLY not daylight muggings in broad open parking lots.

There were way too many time when my wife or I were in a parking lot +/- 30 minutes before or after a violent crime happened in that specific lot.

So my perception because of that is there is a greater chance of a random crime happening to me between my building and the car than at other schools. Whether it has to do with the third ward or not I have no idea, but I think it's not an entirely untrue assumption? But if it is the student body committing those crimes, then UH has some serious issues to address.

As for the Wal-Mart comparison, that would be like if a particular Wal-Mart had a mugging a week, apples and oranges IMHO.

Yankee_In_TX
06-24-2010, 08:46 AM
LOL, give it some thought.

I assume you and Bill are missing each others sarcasm, because even the Yankee knows what you mean :)

Texan_Bill
06-24-2010, 08:51 AM
Absolutely we can agree to disagree. Although, you brought a knife to a gun fight, because my shit was backed up... :thisbig:


:specnatz:

nero THE zero
06-24-2010, 10:35 AM
We can all agree to disagree.

But when I was at OSU there weren't 1-3 gunpoint muggings weekly. ESPECIALLY not daylight muggings in broad open parking lots.

There were way too many time when my wife or I were in a parking lot +/- 30 minutes before or after a violent crime happened in that specific lot.

So my perception because of that is there is a greater chance of a random crime happening to me between my building and the car than at other schools. Whether it has to do with the third ward or not I have no idea, but I think it's not an entirely untrue assumption? But if it is the student body committing those crimes, then UH has some serious issues to address.

As for the Wal-Mart comparison, that would be like if a particular Wal-Mart had a mugging a week, apples and oranges IMHO.

Exaggerations won't help your case.

I've been in attendance at UH for 5 years now, for both my Bachelor's and Master's degrees, and worked in the library (O'Quinn) of the school you attended for half of that time.

While the crime is awful, and much worse than the naysayers are portraying it as, and the Third Ward is, in fact, ghetto, as opposed to how the naysayers are trying to portray it (I don't know how you could claim to the contrary with a straight face), the amount of crime isn't even close to "1-3 gunpoint muggings weekly."

Hyperbole like that tends to take credibility from an otherwise valid argument.

Yankee_In_TX
06-24-2010, 12:10 PM
Hyperbole like that tends to take credibility from an otherwise valid argument.

I wish I had the weekly safety bulletin e-mails still.

even if it wasn't that many, it was enough to make me (and my wife when she attended) constantly freaked out.

But, I'll stop my U of H bashing, go Coogs :)

Texan_Bill
06-24-2010, 12:55 PM
Exaggerations won't help your case.

I've been in attendance at UH for 5 years now, for both my Bachelor's and Master's degrees, and worked in the library (O'Quinn) of the school you attended for half of that time.

While the crime is awful, and much worse than the naysayers are portraying it as, and the Third Ward is, in fact, ghetto, as opposed to how the naysayers are trying to portray it (I don't know how you could claim to the contrary with a straight face), the amount of crime isn't even close to "1-3 gunpoint muggings weekly."

Hyperbole like that tends to take credibility from an otherwise valid argument.

I NEVER said the 3rd Ward can't be dangerous. I was merely pointing out the on-campus crime is no worse than any other campus. I did a side by side with LSU and the crime reports are fairly similar. Mix in the fact that UH has a larger student pop than LSU and also that UH is located in an urban area v. Baton Rouge which is a typical college / Capital town (i.e. Austin, Columbia S.C., etc.)

Texan_Bill
06-24-2010, 01:00 PM
I wish I had the weekly safety bulletin e-mails still.

even if it wasn't that many, it was enough to make me (and my wife when she attended) constantly freaked out.

But, I'll stop my U of H bashing, go Coogs :)

You should've went to South Texas College of Law! ;)

Yankee_In_TX
06-24-2010, 01:28 PM
You should've went to South Texas College of Law! ;)

Is downtown Houston any safer? :-P

Texan_Bill
06-24-2010, 02:40 PM
Is downtown Houston any safer? :-P

No, but at least it was a lot closer to where you lived. :fingergun:

76Texan
06-24-2010, 04:28 PM
Where is UT School of Business located in Houston?
It made your list, TB!

Yankee should have moved to the Woodlands, changed his profession to nursing, and attended the Lone Star College! http://www.texanstalk.com/forums/images/icons/icon10.gif

76Texan
06-24-2010, 04:38 PM
I was at UH studying and working between 1977-1986 and knew over a thousand people. One of my supervisor has a husband who was with HPD and knew the area well.

Given that computing time being a premium back then, my friends and I had to spend late nights on campus throughout the years, with many all-nighters.

Never heard of much that can raise any hair!
Worst thing: I learned that a couple of basketball players were kicked off the team for carrying gun (Braxton Clark and Benny Anders.)
Anders was the next Clyde Drexler. (He was in the same class with Olajuwon.)

Guy was called "Mr Instant Offense".
Had a better outside shot than Drexler.
Shoot free throw better.
Can pass the ball.
Can play tight man on man defense (didn't have it when he first played as a freshman though; all he cared at the beginning was to score.)
Can sky and dunk with the best of them.
Can put on some crazy moves to the basket.
Heir apparent to the Glyde.
We would have won a couple of Champsionship with him next to Akeem.
Dang it!

Texan_Bill
06-24-2010, 08:24 PM
Where is UT School of Business located in Houston?
It made your list, TB!

Yankee should have moved to the Woodlands, changed his profession to nursing, and attended the Lone Star College! http://www.texanstalk.com/forums/images/icons/icon10.gif

:lol: :thumbup

I mean, Sorry Ryan!!

Texan_Bill
06-24-2010, 08:26 PM
I was at UH studying and working between 1977-1986


Sounds like you and I had the same academic advisor!! :cool:

JB
06-24-2010, 08:27 PM
Sounds like you and I had the same academic advisor!! :cool:

lol:

Texan_Bill
06-24-2010, 09:26 PM
lol:

Funny, huh??? :heh:


BTW, give me a call...

Koolaid Time
06-24-2010, 10:05 PM
Worried about crime?

Arm yourself.

Best to be judged by 12 than carried by 6.

Texan_Bill
06-24-2010, 10:59 PM
Worried about crime?

Arm yourself.

Best to be judged by 12 than carried by 6.

:thumbup

SAMURAITEXAN
06-25-2010, 05:17 AM
I was at UH studying and working between 1977-1986 and knew over a thousand people. One of my supervisor has a husband who was with HPD and knew the area well.

Given that computing time being a premium back then, my friends and I had to spend late nights on campus throughout the years, with many all-nighters.

Never heard of much that can raise any hair!
Worst thing: I learned that a couple of basketball players were kicked off the team for carrying gun (Braxton Clark and Benny Anders.)
Anders was the next Clyde Drexler. (He was in the same class with Olajuwon.)

Guy was called "Mr Instant Offense".
Had a better outside shot than Drexler.
Shoot free throw better.
Can pass the ball.
Can play tight man on man defense (didn't have it when he first played as a freshman though; all he cared at the beginning was to score.)
Can sky and dunk with the best of them.
Can put on some crazy moves to the basket.
Heir apparent to the Glyde.
We would have won a couple of Champsionship with him next to Akeem.
Dang it!

Yeah! I remember him well. He was special and wonder what he is doing now. Such a waste of talent. I thought his last name was Sanders?

Texan_Bill
06-25-2010, 09:13 AM
I was at UH studying and working between 1977-1986 and knew over a thousand people. One of my supervisor has a husband who was with HPD and knew the area well.

Given that computing time being a premium back then, my friends and I had to spend late nights on campus throughout the years, with many all-nighters.

Never heard of much that can raise any hair!
Worst thing: I learned that a couple of basketball players were kicked off the team for carrying gun (Braxton Clark and Benny Anders.)
Anders was the next Clyde Drexler. (He was in the same class with Olajuwon.)

Guy was called "Mr Instant Offense".
Had a better outside shot than Drexler.
Shoot free throw better.
Can pass the ball.
Can play tight man on man defense (didn't have it when he first played as a freshman though; all he cared at the beginning was to score.)
Can sky and dunk with the best of them.
Can put on some crazy moves to the basket.
Heir apparent to the Glyde.
We would have won a couple of Champsionship with him next to Akeem.
Dang it!

Larry Micheaux and Michael Young, FTW!!!

Yankee_In_TX
06-25-2010, 11:18 AM
Worried about crime?

Arm yourself.

Best to be judged by 12 than carried by 6.

Illegal to carry a gun on campus....

Texan_Bill
06-25-2010, 11:22 AM
Illegal to carry a gun on campus....

Like he said, better to be judged by 12.... :shades:

Dan B.
06-25-2010, 12:19 PM
Baton Rouge is a pit. UH may be in the ghetto of Houston, but all I saw in Baton Rouge was one big ghetto.

Texan_Bill
06-25-2010, 12:22 PM
Baton Rouge is a pit. UH may be in the ghetto of Houston, but all I saw in Baton Rouge was one big ghetto.

To me it's typical small town, Louisiana. I never felt threatened there and walked around town after dark with no worries. I would NOT stray in the 3rd Ward though after dark, alone.

Yankee_In_TX
06-25-2010, 12:23 PM
Like he said, better to be judged by 12.... :shades:

That's the Yankee in me. WOuld I be banned from the board if I said I have never fired a gun? :)

eriadoc
06-25-2010, 12:56 PM
That's the Yankee in me. WOuld I be banned from the board if I said I have never fired a gun? :)

Hey, we're Texans here, and hospitality is our gig. I'd just invite you shooting. :)

New_Texans
06-25-2010, 06:32 PM
I go to UH and I work in the call center, so im sorry if I've been bugging you alumni with my Tier 1 rhetoric.


Go Coogs!

and please donate :D lmao. but yeah i really do work there and I sit and ask ppl for money on the phone for 3 and half hours.

Texan_Bill
06-25-2010, 10:33 PM
Whose House?

COOGS HOUSE!

awtysst
06-26-2010, 01:32 PM
Just want to point out that just the perception of UH being a dangerous campus is bad enough for the school's image, regardless of statistics, facts, or real talk.

Pretty much no way to fix that in the mind of the average person until Third Ward gets demolished.

Yep. Agreed. As others have posted, people should go into the community before they say anything, but as you have pointed out, its not gonna happen. Perception is Third ward is a dangerous place, so people will not go there to really see it. Only until there is a major renovation project will people consider going in. But a major restoration project will basically transform the Third Ward into something else anyway.

New_Texans
06-27-2010, 03:11 AM
Yep. Agreed. As others have posted, people should go into the community before they say anything, but as you have pointed out, its not gonna happen. Perception is Third ward is a dangerous place, so people will not go there to really see it. Only until there is a major renovation project will people consider going in. But a major restoration project will basically transform the Third Ward into something else anyway.

USC is in the middle of a very dangerous LA ghetto yet that school doesnt get the same 'bad campus' rap as UH =/. Third ward shouldn't be demolished and a lot of the robberies that happen on campus are committed by students too.

Add the light rail, add more recognition to UH and add the Tier 1 status to the University, the school suddenly looks a lot better.

awtysst
06-27-2010, 11:58 AM
USC is in the middle of a very dangerous LA ghetto yet that school doesnt get the same 'bad campus' rap as UH =/. Third ward shouldn't be demolished and a lot of the robberies that happen on campus are committed by students too.

Add the light rail, add more recognition to UH and add the Tier 1 status to the University, the school suddenly looks a lot better.

I don't know anything about the USC neighborhood. But the perception of UH is that it is not safe. I don't know if a light rail is worth it. I mean how much did the light rail in the medical center cost? Is it used enough to justify the cost? What does "Tier 1 status" mean?

gg no re
06-27-2010, 12:41 PM
What does "Tier 1 status" mean?
From all the campaign bombing that I've been getting from UH, tier status relates to the amount of funding the university gets from the state, which means better things for the campus.

IIRC, Rena Khator in December that UH is now in consideration for Tier 1 status or something like that.

Koolaid Time
06-27-2010, 07:05 PM
Where is UH going to get the money to build the new football stadium?

1. John O'quinn's Estate.
2. Massive fundraising shakedown of Alums.
3. Issue Bonds backed by a major increase in the student activity fees.

They couldn't get the $35 million to for the EndZone Club, so $160 million seems to be a stretch.

New_Texans
06-28-2010, 04:21 AM
Where is UH going to get the money to build the new football stadium?

1. John O'quinn's Estate.
2. Massive fundraising shakedown of Alums.
3. Issue Bonds backed by a major increase in the student activity fees.

They couldn't get the $35 million to for the EndZone Club, so $160 million seems to be a stretch.

Well I can tell you that, for a month that I've worked in the UH Call Center, I've raised about 7,000 dollars from calling alumni. This year im pretty certain the call center alone has raise at least a million dollars. Now, these are the people calling and being annoying on the phone. The alumni association raises a lot more money than we do. Also, we called Donnie Avery the other day, he didn't answer his phone.

I also think this year alone alumni have donated 100 million dollars plus toward the Tier 1 initiative. So, donations are helping a lot and like I said, if we call you or send you a thing in a mail give it a look and consider donating anything helps.

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06-29-2010, 08:49 AM
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06-29-2010, 08:58 AM
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06-29-2010, 11:35 AM
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06-29-2010, 11:46 AM
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