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barrett
06-07-2010, 06:24 PM
http://msn.foxsports.com/video?vid=2c51df3f-d8c2-439b-9c50-99078ae8cf24&from=foxsports_en-us_videocentral

In the aftermath of everything it would seem that Glazer, the very first guy to throw #56 under the bus (and perhaps fairly, who knows) has warmed back up to training Cushing.

This is huge because before the P.E.D. suspension, Brian was in the process of convincing several Texans players to take a trip out to S.D. to try it out. It could completely change the way they play. Now that the bridge has apparently been repaired, that could still happen.


Here's (http://msn.foxsports.com/video?vid=ddb1a65c-c4e4-4df8-8be8-7aff4dfe1a54&from=foxsports_en-us_videocentral) just the portion on Cushing. If you don't wan't to watch the part on the ring girls and more about MMA.

barrett
06-07-2010, 06:38 PM
By the way, I have tried and tried for the last month to downgrade my opinion of this guy in light of so many questions about him, but the reality of it is I just can't. I am so glad that Brian Cushing is a Houston Texan.

False Start
06-07-2010, 06:38 PM
Cool video, thanks for the link. :cool:

JB
06-07-2010, 06:42 PM
Arianny Celeste is so freakin hot!

76Texan
06-07-2010, 06:49 PM
Nice vid!

Hey, guess I'm not so crazy after all when I said last year that I thought football players can benefit a lot from Judo, Taekwondo, or some kind of martial art that teaches the use of hands, arms, legs, hips... the whole body ... to your advantage.

barrett
06-07-2010, 06:55 PM
The part that makes the most sense to me is that it's strength that could translate to the field. I remember many people on here talking about free weights versus machines now that Cedric Smith is here.

This seems to totally fit into that same line of thinking.

blitz90
06-07-2010, 07:21 PM
Who cares about Cushing, did yall see Arianny and Rachel? Dayumn

Carr Bombed
06-07-2010, 07:22 PM
Here's (http://msn.foxsports.com/video?vid=ddb1a65c-c4e4-4df8-8be8-7aff4dfe1a54&from=foxsports_en-us_videocentral) just the portion on Cushing. If you don't wan't to watch the part on the ring girls and more about MMA.

That was the best part of the video. :)

SheTexan
06-07-2010, 08:16 PM
Nice vid!

Hey, guess I'm not so crazy after all when I said last year that I thought football players can benefit a lot from Judo, Taekwondo, or some kind of martial art that teaches the use of hands, arms, legs, hips... the whole body ... to your advantage.


It's called dancing John!! lol Just ask Jerry Rice, Emmitt Smith, Ocho Chinco, Jason Taylor, and probably a couple others I can't remember.

I remember back in the OLD day when football players took ballet classes to improve balance.

gtexan02
06-07-2010, 08:29 PM
Cushings legs are skinny lol

b0ng
06-07-2010, 08:38 PM
Jay Glazer looks like a gigantic douche.

JB
06-07-2010, 08:40 PM
Isn't it funny how Glazer was trying to distance himself from Cushing not a month ago?...

Carr Bombed
06-07-2010, 08:41 PM
Jay Glazer looks like a gigantic douche.

I LOL'd when he said when Cushing came in he couldn't throw him around. From the very first time Cushing met Glazer, Brian could've folded him up like a pretzel if he really wanted to. Glazer is a clown.

b0ng
06-07-2010, 08:45 PM
Isn't it funny how Glazer was trying to distance himself from Cushing not a month ago?...

Jay Glazer trains with Karo Parisyian (or however you spell his name) which has tested positive for pain killers by the NSAC. Basically what I'm getting at is Jay Glazer is a douche.

EDIT: Carr Bombed is right. The only thing redeeming about Glazer is occasionally he'll scoop everybody on a football story.

eriadoc
06-07-2010, 11:46 PM
Why would Jay Glazer want to take the risk of training a player that has serious health issues, and/or tumors?

:hides:

IDEXAN
06-08-2010, 06:14 AM
I am so glad that Brian Cushing is a Houston Texan.

You may feel that way, but I bet not a single day has gone by since the steroid news broke about Cushing that the Texans owner and Smith & Kubiak haven't regretted their decision to draft him with what they know now vs. what they didn't/should've back in April of 2009.

pbat488
06-08-2010, 06:26 AM
You may feel that way, but I bet not a single day has gone by since the steroid news broke about Cushing that the Texans owner and Smith & Kubiak haven't regretted their decision to draft him with what they know now vs. what they didn't/should've back in April of 2009.

Yeah, who wouldn't rue the day they selected a two time defensive rookie of the year...

On to the thread subject, is it stated anywhere or known if this footage of Cushing training was before or after the hoopla regarding the hGC?

TimeKiller
06-08-2010, 07:29 AM
You know what? **** Jay Glazer. Ain't got a MMA training facility in Houston? They oughtta just set one up under Reliant next to the gym.

If a guy puts his hands on you, chop them off with extreme prejudice!!!

TheRealJoker
06-08-2010, 08:05 AM
You know what? **** Jay Glazer. Ain't got a MMA training facility in Houston? They oughtta just set one up under Reliant next to the gym.

If a guy puts his hands on you, chop them off with extreme prejudice!!!

Brian Cushing needs to hook up with former UFC # 1 LW Yves Edwards. Lives in Austin now but makes the trip to Houston frequently (family).

Wolfiegrrl
06-08-2010, 09:51 AM
I get the feeling that Glazer is back tracking because Cushing showed him the evidence of what is going on with Cushing's body. The biggest proof for me that Brian hasn't used some supplement or what not is the fact that the kid hasn't reduced in size at all. Look at last year's OTA pictures and this year's. Most PED users will loose size.

Glazer is not stupid. Cushing has the connections to bring me a LOT of clients. I certainly would love to see the defense getting some of those moves hammered down.

HOU-TEX
06-08-2010, 09:58 AM
I get the feeling that Glazer is back tracking because Cushing showed him the evidence of what is going on with Cushing's body. The biggest proof for me that Brian hasn't used some supplement or what not is the fact that the kid hasn't reduced in size at all. Look at last year's OTA pictures and this year's. Most PED users will loose size.

Glazer is not stupid. Cushing has the connections to bring me a LOT of clients. I certainly would love to see the defense getting some of those moves hammered down.

And who's to say he isn't cycling right now? The off-season is when those that use do their cycling. I'm not saying he is, just saying we haven't a clue what's in his blood right now.

b0ng
06-08-2010, 10:01 AM
And who's to say he isn't cycling right now? The off-season is when those that use do their cycling. I'm not saying he is, just saying we haven't a clue what's in his blood right now.

Aren't NFL pee-pee tests year round? I would think that cycling now would be just as foolhardy as cycling any time?

JB
06-08-2010, 10:02 AM
And who's to say he isn't cycling right now? The off-season is when those that use do their cycling. I'm not saying he is, just saying we haven't a clue what's in his blood right now.

Since he got busted isn't he on a mandatory testing program?

pbat488
06-08-2010, 10:04 AM
And who's to say he isn't cycling right now? The off-season is when those that use do their cycling. I'm not saying he is, just saying we haven't a clue what's in his blood right now.

Aren't NFL pee-pee tests year round? I would think that cycling now would be just as foolhardy as cycling any time?

Since he got busted isn't he on a mandatory testing program?

Hopefully, even if not mandatory by the NFL, Cush is doing them on his own just to prove to everyone that he is clean.

TimeKiller
06-08-2010, 10:07 AM
And who's to say he isn't cycling right now? The off-season is when those that use do their cycling. I'm not saying he is, just saying we haven't a clue what's in his blood right now.

Why would he cycle and not be lifting? He said in the video he wanted to get out of the gym for a while...

b0ng
06-08-2010, 10:44 AM
You may feel that way, but I bet not a single day has gone by since the steroid news broke about Cushing that the Texans owner and Smith & Kubiak haven't regretted their decision to draft him with what they know now vs. what they didn't/should've back in April of 2009.

This is literally the most retarded "opinion" I have heard in the last few days and I believe I read a Second Honeymoon "bob is cheap" rant in that time.

texansdrummer
06-08-2010, 02:43 PM
You may feel that way, but I bet not a single day has gone by since the steroid news broke about Cushing that the Texans owner and Smith & Kubiak haven't regretted their decision to draft him with what they know now vs. what they didn't/should've back in April of 2009.

Riiiiight. That's why this article is on the Texans website:

http://www.houstontexans.com/blog/index.asp?post_id=1181

Let me guess....their just doing to this to boost his value before a trade.
:sarcasm:

IDEXAN
06-08-2010, 03:36 PM
Riiiiight. That's why this article is on the Texans website:

http://www.houstontexans.com/blog/index.asp?post_id=1181

Let me guess....their just doing to this to boost his value before a trade.
:sarcasm:

I'm not talking about fan support, which tends to "circle the wagons" when one of their favorites is under attack.
I'm talking about the ownership & management, who have their butts hanging out there with the big financial investment and very high Draft pick they have in Cushing. And in the last few weeks they all discovered there's a
much deeper down-side with Cushing than they ever knew before. And trust me, they don't like that much uncertainty.

CloakNNNdagger
06-08-2010, 09:11 PM
It's called dancing John!! lol Just ask Jerry Rice, Emmitt Smith, Ocho Chinco, Jason Taylor, and probably a couple others I can't remember.

I remember back in the OLD day when football players took ballet classes to improve balance.

..............and wore pantyhose to keep warm..........and supported.:)

thunderkyss
06-09-2010, 06:46 AM
Isn't it funny how Glazer was trying to distance himself from Cushing not a month ago?...

What's funny, is when Rachelle introduces Brian, she opens, "It's sad that Jay Glazer had to break the news on one of the players he trains... He still continues to do everything he can..."

Basically, Jay is saying he wasn't wrong.

b0ng
06-09-2010, 10:05 AM
I'm not talking about fan support, which tends to "circle the wagons" when one of their favorites is under attack.
I'm talking about the ownership & management, who have their butts hanging out there with the big financial investment and very high Draft pick they have in Cushing. And in the last few weeks they all discovered there's a
much deeper down-side with Cushing than they ever knew before. And trust me, they don't like that much uncertainty.

When throwing around the terms "regret drafting him" and "high draft pick" it makes me think you are just throwing out exaggerations. Kubiak only cares that his DROY isn't out there for 4 games. "High Draft Pick" makes it sound as though he was top 5 when in fact he was the 15th. The difference in salary between the 15th and the 1st pick is about the size of the Grand Canyon, so the financial investment, while not nil, is definitely not something that's going to keep McNair awake and sweating.

Basically Cushing has to prove himself, just like he did his rookie year, and show that yes he belongs in the NFL even without his "supplements". To say that this is making Smith and McNair have extreme bouts of regret and makes them wish he was some other player is pretty silly. I will say that there is no way they went from high fiving each other last year to drowning their sorrows this offseason. I'm more than willing to say that the Texans front office is supportive of Cushing until he proves on the field that he does not deserve the support of the team (or gets tossed from the league for substance).

This is why I think that opinion is still one of the most retarded opinions I have read in the last few days, and I had to go read some Dickie Justice because I nominated him for a "Douche of the Year" award earlier this week.

b0ng
06-09-2010, 10:12 AM
Since I'm double posting, after looking up Cushing's contract on rotoworld to make sure that he didn't sign some ridiculously high deal, did anybody notice Cushings sack numbers in the last 4 weeks?

SEA - 1 sack
STL - .5 sack
MIA - 1 sack
NE - 1 sack

3.5 sacks in the last 4 weeks? Think Frank Bush figured out some schemes at the end of the year that allowed Cushing to monster the QB? Hopefully it'll be a sign of things to come.

barrett
06-09-2010, 10:30 AM
Yeah, who wouldn't rue the day they selected a two time defensive rookie of the year...

On to the thread subject, is it stated anywhere or known if this footage of Cushing training was before or after the hoopla regarding the hGC?


Other than the massive disclaimer to introduce the segment there is no way of knowing if the actual footage is from before or after but the piece itself is certainly done post-suspension.


I'm not talking about fan support, which tends to "circle the wagons" when one of their favorites is under attack.
I'm talking about the ownership & management, who have their butts hanging out there with the big financial investment and very high Draft pick they have in Cushing. And in the last few weeks they all discovered there's a
much deeper down-side with Cushing than they ever knew before. And trust me, they don't like that much uncertainty.

I'm sure they don't like the uncertainty, but that's quite a bit different than suffering massive regret. The guy is special. His performance on the field will likely have to be backed up with more of the same before people feel comfortable admitting / accepting that he's a special player. (after all, he may not perform at the same level, that to me would be all the proof I need.) But here's the thing that keeps me squarely in camp "Cush" the guy is special in practice and in the locker room. He as well as Bernard Pollard and Antonio Smith have brought a swagger and an intensity to this team that cannot be measured. I think both the front office, as well as the coaching staff feel much the same that I do.

I think they feel very fortunate to have a guy like Cushing, warts (on his thyroid) and all.

thunderkyss
06-09-2010, 12:57 PM
3.5 sacks in the last 4 weeks? Think Frank Bush figured out some schemes at the end of the year that allowed Cushing to monster the QB? Hopefully it'll be a sign of things to come.

It appears to be a sign that our best LB rushing the passer, is also our best in coverage (he also leads the LBs in INTs)... I don't know how comfortable I am with that.

barrett
06-09-2010, 01:01 PM
You know I don't typically think of any of those 3 as "good in coverage" to be honest. 'Meco is suspect due to his speed. I don't think of Diles as particularly fast or agile in the open field and Cushing got his interceptions from tips except for the Cincy game clincher (which was and incredible catch) if I remember correctly.

Buffalo was a tip, Seattle? I can't remember

They all seem like smart sound tacklers who can make up for being just okay in pass defense.

scourge
06-09-2010, 01:14 PM
Does it say anywhere that Glazer and he have made up? I ask, because in the video Glazer states that this is 2 months after getting with Cushing.

Brian started training with them in early March, so when the steriod thing broke it had already been 2 months. I am pretty sure that this video was pre-suspension.

beerlover
06-09-2010, 01:26 PM
If true it would be cool to see new video of Cushing throwing Jay Glazer thru the window this time, at least it would be a start :slapfight:

eriadoc
06-09-2010, 01:32 PM
You know I don't typically think of any of those 3 as "good in coverage" to be honest.

Dallas Clark agrees with you.

El Tejano
06-09-2010, 02:41 PM
Dallas Clark agrees with you.

Dallas Clark is going down this year!

b0ng
06-09-2010, 02:53 PM
You know I don't typically think of any of those 3 as "good in coverage" to be honest. 'Meco is suspect due to his speed. I don't think of Diles as particularly fast or agile in the open field and Cushing got his interceptions from tips except for the Cincy game clincher (which was and incredible catch) if I remember correctly.

Buffalo was a tip, Seattle? I can't remember

They all seem like smart sound tacklers who can make up for being just okay in pass defense.

I thought he got a legit INT on Manning?

infantrycak
06-09-2010, 05:21 PM
I thought he got a legit INT on Manning?

He did, nice jumping one like against Palmer.

Lucky
06-09-2010, 08:48 PM
Dallas Clark agrees with you.
What team had success covering Clark with a LB? Guys like Clark & Daniels make their living off of coordinators being stupid.

JB
06-09-2010, 09:03 PM
What team had success covering Clark with a LB? Guys like Clark & Daniels make their living off of coordinators being stupid.

My thoughts as well. No one shut down Clark last year with a LB. And not sure anyone did at all, though I don't recall him having a big game in the SB.

barrett
06-10-2010, 03:41 AM
I thought he got a legit INT on Manning?

He did. Well, not to be super nit picky (except that's exactly what I'm doing) but, Eli's brother did throw it well behind his receiver. Was still legit though. You're right.

What team had success covering Clark with a LB? Guys like Clark & Daniels make their living off of coordinators being stupid.

My thoughts as well. No one shut down Clark last year with a LB. And not sure anyone did at all, though I don't recall him having a big game in the SB.

Although he had his way with Cushing in the first game, they knocked the piss out of him in the second game and he started laying down by the 3rd quarter. Literally, laying down to avoid getting the piss knocked out of him. How on earth we lost that game I'll never know because I can't muster the strength to go back and watch.

Kubiak mentioned in his speech today that they have to be more physical against the Colts. I think they figured that out last year in the second game. You could make a point that the Texans offense is a finesse offense but let me tell you something that is fact, The Colts offense is unquestionably one and the Texans D is unquestionably NOT!

god I can't wait for opening day when Kevin Bentley, Adibi or Danny Clark get to knock the piss out of Dallas Clark!

eriadoc
06-10-2010, 07:47 AM
What team had success covering Clark with a LB? Guys like Clark & Daniels make their living off of coordinators being stupid.

You're right, of course, but there's a difference between expecting to "shut down" Dallas Clark vs. allowing him to catch like a dozen balls in the first half alone. Something in between would be acceptable. I'm as big a Cushing fan as the next guy, but no one can objectively claim that Cush didn't find out what being a rookie against Manning was all about that day.

IDEXAN
06-10-2010, 01:34 PM
I'm sure they don't like the uncertainty, but that's quite a bit different than suffering massive regret. The guy is special. His performance on the field will likely have to be backed up with more of the same before people feel comfortable admitting / accepting that he's a special player
I still keep coming back to this - why would he juice (and he juiced, if you don't think so then you're in denial and therefor unwilling to accept the reality of the situatuin), if it dosen't provide him with an important benefit(s) and if he dosen't juice anymore then how can we expect to see the same player we saw last year ?
And I would think the Texans brass is closer to feeling "massive regret" about Cushing than just a nagging uncertainty about his future here and in the league. Frankley I wouldn't be as surprised to hear the league announch a 2nd suspension as I was to hear the news of the first one, would you ? "Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice.........".
Basically Brian is on double-secret probation for me for some time.

barrett
06-10-2010, 02:04 PM
I still keep coming back to this - why would he juice (and he juiced, if you don't think so then you're in denial and therefor unwilling to accept the reality of the situatuin), if it dosen't provide him with an important benefit(s) and if he dosen't juice anymore then how can we expect to see the same player we saw last year ?
And I would think the Texans brass is closer to feeling "massive regret" about Cushing than just a nagging uncertainty about his future here and in the league. Frankley I wouldn't be as surprised to hear the league announch a 2nd suspension as I was to hear the news of the first one, would you ? "Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice.........".
Basically Brian is on double-secret probation for me for some time.

Dude,

You can't make statements like that without coming off like a boob. "Truth", which you are claiming to somehow know even though you know full well that you don't, isn't defined by what you perceive to be obvious. Your belief that it's fact doesn't make it any less speculative. It means you believe yourself. Hooray. Good for you.

There is some factual information out there. You can look at it and form your own opinion. So can I. I don't know if he "juiced" or didn't "juice". Neither do you. I haven't formed an opinion. I haven't found reasonable doubt to be eliminated.

That's not even the point of why I'm posting a reply. I just get so tired of opinions being stated as fact that I felt compelled to say something.

Yesterday, Cushing's head coach told a room full of people that he thinks Brian is one of the best football players in the NFL.

During Cushing's press conference / meathead reading show, Rick Smith, Gary Kubiak and LB coach Johnny Holland were all in attendance showing support (according to John McClain). Where you get this sense that they are just swimming in regret seems unfounded but I suppose that's somewhat consistent for you.

The one point that I will give you credit for is that the reaction to a second suspension would be less surprising because we have a history to go on now. But that's it.

And again, for the 100'th time, I'm not saying he didn't do anything wrong. I'm saying I don't know. Neither do you.

JB
06-10-2010, 02:32 PM
Dude,

You can't make statements like that without coming off like a boob. "Truth", which you are claiming to somehow know even though you know full well that you don't, isn't defined by what you perceive to be obvious. Your belief that it's fact doesn't make it any less speculative. It means you believe yourself. Hooray good for you.

There is some factual information out there. You can look at it and form your own opinion. So can I. I don't know if he "juiced" or didn't "juice". Neither do you. I haven't formed an opinion. I haven't found reasonable doubt to be eliminated.

That's not even the point of why I'm posting a reply. I just get so tired of opinions being stated as fact that I felt compelled to say something.

Yesterday, Cushing's head coach told a room fool of people that he thinks Brian is one of the best football players in the NFL.

During Cushing's press conference / meathead reading show, Rick Smith, Gary Kubiak and LB coach Johnny Holland were all in attendance showing support (according to John McClain). Where you get this sense that they are just swimming in regret seems unfounded but I suppose that's somewhat consistent for you.

The one point that I will give you credit for is that the reaction to a second suspension would be less surprising because we have a history to go on now. But that's it.

And again, for the 100'th time, I'm not saying he didn't do anything wrong. I'm saying I don't know. Neither do you.

Good Post. Especially agree with the bolded.

beerlover
06-10-2010, 02:59 PM
Kubiak stated he thinks Brian is one of the best in the buisness & at a young age. that buisness of course is football at least that's the way I heard it.

Since I immerse myself (amongst many others here, who do a fine job I might add) the gravity of miss on my part (09 draft) has forced me to really examine the finer, less obvious points in projecting College players to NFL. This whole substance abuse thing has & probably always will be @ the very heart of the Brian Cushing saga, but what I've learned first hand is his committment to excellence is unsurpassed. He spends his offseason taking care of his body (monitoring enhancements ever stricter) & investing time/resources to get only better (MMA training).

I just hope people don't give up on his driven character as a source of mistaken identity (cheater) but as a leader of a Texans defense & the community of how hard work does pay off.

barrett
06-10-2010, 03:05 PM
Kubiak stated he thinks Brian is one of the best in the buisness & at a young age. that buisness of course is football at least that's the way I heard it.

Since I immerse myself (amongst many others here, who do a fine job I might add) the gravity of miss on my part (09 draft) has forced me to really examine the finer, less obvious points in projecting College players to NFL. This whole substance abuse thing has & probably always will be @ the very heart of the Brian Cushing saga, but what I've learned first hand is his committment to excellence is unsurpassed. He spends his offseason taking care of his body (monitoring enhancements ever stricter) & investing time/resources to get only better (MMA training).

I just hope people don't give up on his driven character as a source of mistaken identity (cheater) but as a leader of a Texans defense & the community of how hard work does pay off.

Damn fine way to put it BL.

Texecutioner
06-10-2010, 03:10 PM
Dude,

You can't make statements like that without coming off like a boob. "Truth", which you are claiming to somehow know even though you know full well that you don't, isn't defined by what you perceive to be obvious. Your belief that it's fact doesn't make it any less speculative. It means you believe yourself. Hooray. Good for you.

There is some factual information out there. You can look at it and form your own opinion. So can I. I don't know if he "juiced" or didn't "juice". Neither do you. I haven't formed an opinion. I haven't found reasonable doubt to be eliminated.

That's not even the point of why I'm posting a reply. I just get so tired of opinions being stated as fact that I felt compelled to say something.

Yesterday, Cushing's head coach told a room full of people that he thinks Brian is one of the best football players in the NFL.

During Cushing's press conference / meathead reading show, Rick Smith, Gary Kubiak and LB coach Johnny Holland were all in attendance showing support (according to John McClain). Where you get this sense that they are just swimming in regret seems unfounded but I suppose that's somewhat consistent for you.

The one point that I will give you credit for is that the reaction to a second suspension would be less surprising because we have a history to go on now. But that's it.

And again, for the 100'th time, I'm not saying he didn't do anything wrong. I'm saying I don't know. Neither do you.

It's a fact that he tested positive for a banned substance and he's been the most looked at player regarding steroids throughout his entire college career. Whether it was steroids or not he cheated and most likely did throughout college as well. Texans fans need to stop lowering themselves to the homerism of acting like Cushing is some victim that got a bad test. I'm sure he'll still be a great football player and a great player to root for on this for a very long time. But he clearly broke the rules and took banned substances and that is fact.

barrett
06-10-2010, 03:29 PM
It's a fact that he tested positive for a banned substance and he's been the most looked at player regarding steroids throughout his entire college career. Whether it was steroids or not he cheated and most likely did throughout college as well. Texans fans need to stop lowering themselves to the homerism of acting like Cushing is some victim that got a bad test. I'm sure he'll still be a great football player and a great player to root for on this for a very long time. But he clearly broke the rules and took banned substances and that is fact.

Just thought I'd point out some of your opinions that you perceive to be fact. I'm glad that you believe you too. Confidence is always good to have.

I'm not saying you're wrong. I'm saying you don't know if you're right. Neither to I.

IDEXAN
06-10-2010, 03:44 PM
It's a fact that he tested positive for a banned substance and he's been the most looked at player regarding steroids throughout his entire college career. Whether it was steroids or not he cheated and most likely did throughout college as well. Texans fans need to stop lowering themselves to the homerism of acting like Cushing is some victim that got a bad test. I'm sure he'll still be a great football player and a great player to root for on this for a very long time. But he clearly broke the rules and took banned substances and that is fact.
Agree with most of what you've said here, except I'm still at a loss to understand why you and others think Cushing will continue to be a steller player (or a "great football player" as you say) as he was last year without his juice ? If he can be one without the juice, why even mess with it in the first place ? Look at the money it's already cost him.

Texecutioner
06-10-2010, 03:46 PM
Just thought I'd point out some of your opinions that you perceive to be fact. I'm glad that you believe you too. Confidence is always good to have.

I'm not saying you're wrong. I'm saying you don't know if you're right. Neither to I.

He tested positive for a banned substance. What is so hard to understand about that? It's a fact, not an opinion.

Texecutioner
06-10-2010, 03:57 PM
Agree with most of what you've said here, except I'm still at a loss to understand why you and others think Cushing will continue to be a steller player (or a "great football player" as you say) as he was last year without his juice ? If he can be one without the juice, why even mess with it in the first place ? Look at the money it's already cost him.

It's just my guess and my projected opinion. I could be wrong, but as a Texans fan and as a Cushing fan I certainly hope that I'm not wrong.

I think he'll continue to be a great player because his instincts were spectacular last season. For a LB he looked like a freaking ball hawk. There were games where he literally flew around the field from sideline to sideline and from the line of scrimmage to where he'd be all the way down the field knocking a pass down or making a tackle on a WR where I'd wonder how the hell he ever got down there. I still think that he'll be able to hit pretty hard as well. He's got such a football players mentality and strong work ethic as well. I just don't think it's going to hinder him that much.

And when I consider some of the stuff he's learning in MMA as far as being a martial artist, well that's got to help to some degree. Those workouts they do in MMA are ruthless. I train here and there and mainly in Mui Thai, but I've trained in plenty of other MMA techniques and it's by far the toughest type of training out there. It will help his conditioning big time and should help him with leverage as well when taking guys down to the ground.

I understand your concerns about how he'll play and I think they are legit questions, but I just think that Cush is going to come back as a beast.

texansdrummer
06-10-2010, 04:05 PM
He tested positive for a banned substance. What is so hard to understand about that? It's a fact, not an opinion.

Actually, the FACT is that he tested out of the NFL's acceptable range of a naturally-occurring substance that may or may not be a result of taking a banned substance.

The test itself does not detect a banned substance, however, results that are "out of he normal range" can certainly indicate that something may be amiss.

(Once while running a drug screen at my work, a test indicated that a female patient had some indicators that were "out of the normal range". She was actually pregnant and did not know it.)

Texecutioner
06-10-2010, 04:23 PM
Actually, the FACT is that he tested out of the NFL's acceptable range of a naturally-occurring substance that may or may not be a result of taking a banned substance.

The test itself does not detect a banned substance, however, results that are "out of he normal range" can certainly indicate that something may be amiss.

(Once while running a drug screen at my work, a test indicated that a female patient had some indicators that were "out of the normal range". She was actually pregnant and did not know it.)

Okay then Cushing was trying to be mommy then. Go ahead and live in your fantasy land of denials that any Texan player could have ever done anything wrong, but NFL players taking that drug are taking it for one reason and one reason only. And the fact that this is about a player who has been the poster child for alleged steroids since he was in HS makes this even more of a no brainer. This positive test just confirmed what most people's speculation had already been for years. Now does that mean he isn't still a beast that works harder than your average football player? In reality we both know if he was a Titan or Jared Allen or some other majorly hated player on this board, he's be the laughing stock around here and called a cheater. But since it's Cushing and since he wears a Texans logo, it's not true even though a positive test is involved. Whatever. No point in continually arguing this. He's suspended for 4 games just like he or anyone else that breaks the rules should be. I can't wait for him to come back and set the league on fire again though.

barrett
06-12-2010, 03:53 AM
He tested positive for a banned substance. What is so hard to understand about that? It's a fact, not an opinion.

atta-boy. Thats much better.