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ThaShark316
03-04-2005, 12:39 PM
Texans | Interested in Lehr - from www.KFFL.com
Fri, 4 Mar 2005 10:18:19 -0800

Lee Rasizer, of the Rocky Mountain News, reports the Houston Texans are interested in free agent OG Matt Lehr (Rams) at the center position.


Hmmmm....I'm not gonna look in to this much, cuz Lehr isn't a starter. Prolly just as a backup C.

Marcus
03-04-2005, 12:42 PM
Hmmmm....I'm not gonna look in to this much, cuz Lehr isn't a starter. Prolly just as a backup C.

Still would be better than McKinney.

texanfan2002114
03-04-2005, 12:51 PM
Still would be better than McKinney.


I agree!! McKinney should move back to guard and let someone else become center!!

ThaShark316
03-04-2005, 12:59 PM
McKinney sucks more than a Hoover...that said, I gotta know more about Lehr.

TEXANS84
03-04-2005, 01:01 PM
So Todd Washington who got a contract extension last year I guess would fall out of the equation.

V Man
03-04-2005, 01:01 PM
This doesn't make sense, you could get a center in the draft with one of our 3 round picks that is better than McKinney, why send that money on a free agent who can't even start for the team he was on.

texasguy346
03-04-2005, 01:10 PM
I'm thinking the same thing as V Man. Near as I can tell he was with the Cowboys for a few years, and then it looks like he was brought in last year to help out a very weak Rams OLine. If you recall they were so desperate that they were trying to lure some guys out of retirment. I assume if we did sign him he'd be nothing more than a backup at C and G. I think we could find a good backup C or G in the draft, but perhaps Lehr is cheap and willing to come in just to compete and will be nothing more than training camp fodder.

Vinny
03-04-2005, 01:29 PM
First of all, you *can* get a player at any position in the draft. Rookie Centers and the NFL are not something you want to see when you are fighting for the playoffs. Washington is a scrub and has lead feet. He is a miserable pass protector.

The bottom line: Center is a weakness on the team. We are looking at one as far as we know. You put together the very best team you can possibly put together before the draft. THEN when the draft rolls around you are not panicing and picking for pure need and reaching.

Some of you guys will complain about anything (not aimed at anyone, but we are turning into one heck of a negative fan base lately).

Honoring Earl 34
03-04-2005, 01:36 PM
:hmmm: How many rookie centers would be better than McKinney . The position is a little bit more complex than snapping the ball. In the 3rd or 4th rd if a center you like is on the board take him but you can't pencil him in right away .

V Man
03-04-2005, 01:37 PM
I know you *can* get any position in the draft. My point is that the Texans could spend their money better ways than going after a player who can't even start for the team he was on. I would rather go with a rookie than sign that particular player.

Vinny
03-04-2005, 01:39 PM
I know you *can* get any position in the draft. My point is that the Texans could spend their money better ways than going after a player who can't even start for the team he was on. I would rather go with a rookie than sign that particular player.Perhaps they are looking to upgrade the starter and the reserve? The combo of McKinney/Washinton may be the wost combo in the league.

V Man
03-04-2005, 01:41 PM
Perhaps they are looking to upgrade the starter and the reserve? The combo of McKinney/Washinton may be the wost combo in the league.

Agreed, but Rasizer (in my opinion, and we all have one) isn't an upgrade.

Errant Hothy
03-04-2005, 01:46 PM
As bad as McKinney is/was last year, Lehr isn't any better. In fact he may be worse. I know the name sounded familar, but couldn't place till somebody mentioned teh team from Arlington. If y'all think we complained about McKinney, just change his name to Lehr and that's how it sounded hear in Dallas before he left. This, if it happens, is more than likely a move to solidify the back-up spot; or to push Washington.

If this deters the front office from drafting a Center in April, I may start to lose faith in them.

Vinny
03-04-2005, 01:46 PM
Agreed, but Rasizer (in my opinion, and we all have one) isn't an upgrade.That's fine. If you notice, I gave no opinion on the player. I just am trying to express that we should keep an open mind about our moves and the speculated moves.

UberDork
03-04-2005, 02:16 PM
The guys seems like at least solid backup material for the present. I looked around a little and he was ranked around the 3rd best OG prospect in 2001. Brandt from NFL.com listed him as the center for the under 25 team last June. The guy sounds athletic and he is young. We have to get young athletic guys...he is both. Maybe he is well suited for the Zone blocking system. I think we shouldn't be so quick to draw conclusions. But then again...What else is there to do during the offseason. :wacko:

BornOrange
03-04-2005, 04:32 PM
Bold stuff from Casserly, I guess if you can ask your best defensive player to seek a trade, then I guess it's not problem to tell Mckinney to take a seat!

:thumbup
Casserly isn't seeking to trade Dunta Robinson, who by the end of the year was definitely the best defensive player on the Texans.

southtexan
03-04-2005, 07:50 PM
First of all, you *can* get a player at any position in the draft. Rookie Centers and the NFL are not something you want to see when you are fighting for the playoffs. Washington is a scrub and has lead feet. He is a miserable pass protector.

The bottom line: Center is a weakness on the team. We are looking at one as far as we know. You put together the very best team you can possibly put together before the draft. THEN when the draft rolls around you are not panicing and picking for pure need and reaching.

Some of you guys will complain about anything (not aimed at anyone, but we are turning into one heck of a negative fan base lately).
Yes, some guys will complain just about anything, I do understand that we're building a team and that takes some time but some people want a superbowl contender is 3 years, that's impossible. The o-line will be better than last year and the team will be better than last year also, I do believe CC knows what he is doing.

texan279
03-10-2005, 04:01 PM
Texans | Hold Preliminary Talks with Lehr - from www.KFFL.com
Thu, 10 Mar 2005 13:05:39 -0800

Jeff Legwold, of the Rocky Mountain News, reports the Houston Texans have conducted preliminary negotiations with free agent OL Matt Lehr (Rams).


From STLOUISRAMS.com

Pro Highlights:The Cowboys believe they addressed their long-term future at either guard or center when they selected Matt Lehr (pronounced LAIR) with the 137th overall pick in the 2001 NFL Draft. Lehr combines good athleticism with excellent technique to dominate his man at the line of scrimmage. His quickness and strength were big reasons Virginia Tech was able to establish Big East rushing records during his junior and senior campaigns. Lehr worked at guard and center during his first professional season to provide the Cowboys with a more versatile reserve lineman. Entering his second season, the Cowboys are looking to move Lehr to the starting center position to replace departed veteran Mark Stepnoski.

College Highlights:As a senior, Lehr earned second-team All-Big East and All-America honors while allowing only half a sack and five quarterback pressures and leading the team with 57 knockdown blocks. His performance throughout the season also earned him selection to play in the Hula Bowl. Lehr started all 12 games as a junior at left guard and surrendered only one sack and just three quarterback pressures to earn second-team All-Big East honors and help take the Hokies to the BCS National Championship game. After seeing practice time at guard and tackle during spring workouts of his sophomore year, Lehr injured his ankle during preseason practice and missed Techs first two games. He saw his first action of the year in the third week and midway through the season he moved into the starting lineup.

Blake
03-11-2005, 11:08 AM
I want this deal to fall through so we wont "HAVE TO DRAFT" Baas #2.

Im confused. You want the deal to not happen, so we dont have to draft baas?

F-minus67
03-11-2005, 11:39 AM
Well, at least there will be some one to push McKinney for a change.

Hervoyel
03-11-2005, 12:47 PM
Lehr is average not starting material :thumbdown

I think you spelled "McKinney" wrong on that post. ;)

We need a better center, I don't care how we do it. I'd like to see the Texans hunting one down as their top priority. If he's not there in free agency then in the draft.

powda
03-11-2005, 03:43 PM
Texans | A Finalist for Lehr - from www.KFFL.com
Fri, 11 Mar 2005 13:07:26 -0800

Lee Rasizer and Jeff Legwold, of the Rocky Mountain News, report the Houston Texans are likely a finalist to sign free agent OL Matt Lehr (Rams), who is expected to make a decision over the next few days.

Meloy
03-11-2005, 04:05 PM
I think you spelled "McKinney" wrong on that post. ;)

We need a better center, I don't care how we do it. I'd like to see the Texans hunting one down as their top priority. If he's not there in free agency then in the draft.

If Lehr can't beat Steve for starter, would we waste $ getting Lehr? Other posts indicate good centers can be drafted 4th to 5th round. I think we have McKinney for 2 more years. Would it not be smarter to draft low and work the guy in as Steve's contract closes? If Lehr can be the starter, I agree to get him. But that would be a lot of moolah tied up @ that position. :hmmm:

Vinny
03-11-2005, 04:13 PM
Matt Lehr, Brandt's under-25 team (http://www.nfl.com/news/story/7459988) and Kiper's Top offensive linemen (http://espn.go.com/melkiper/s/2001/0404/1167501.html) in draft a couple of years ago. OFFENSIVE GUARDS

1. Steve Hutchinson, Michigan -- According to my ratings, Hutchinson has been in an elite group since early in the season, proving to be a model of consistency along the Wolverines' offensive line from his LG position. Along the way, he assisted QB Drew Henson and RB Anthony Thomas, both of whom posted huge numbers during the 2000 campaign. With the ability to operate at RT in the NFL, Hutchinson is a great deal more than just a pure guard. That's why he carries such an elite grade according to my ratings. Drafted by Seattle, first round (17th)

2. Mike Gandy, Notre Dame -- Late-developing standout, really coming into his own over the last two seasons in South Bend. Remember, at the prep level in Texas, he operated at TE and DE. When you combine his solid senior year with his impressive showing at the Senior Bowl practices, it shouldn't surprise anyone if Gandy ends up in the second round of the draft like I'm expecting. Drafted by Chicago, third round (68th)

3. Matt Lehr, Virginia Tech -- Underrated trenchman, operating at both guard spots while also seeing some action at LT in practice. The 6-foot-2, 289-pounder is quick, athletic and tough; in the NFL, he could ultimately land at the center position, showing the ability to anchor a line. Drafted by Dallas, fifth round (137th)

AlexVanderpool
03-11-2005, 06:02 PM
That was years ago...one of my friends who is a cowgirl fan (im ashamed to admit it) basically said that he was very inconsistent and not starting material.

Though i firmly believe that the center position was the weakest last year, i hope we dont overpay this guy the way this 3 team finalist thing looks like we will.

Vinny
03-11-2005, 06:04 PM
Brandt's piece was last year. Not years ago. NFL News

Brandt's under-25 team: Offense

Gil Brandt By Gil Brandt
NFL.com Senior Analyst

(June 29, 2004) -- Did you know there were 40 first-time Pro Bowl players selected to last season's big game on the little island? Never before have so many newcomers, be it selected by the fans or added due to injuries, been a part of the NFL's all-star game.

That says a lot about the young talent in the NFL today. Every year we're treated to a bumper crop of rookies. Some of them come in right away and make an impact, others take a few years to develop before they become great.

TEXANS84
03-11-2005, 07:24 PM
Texans | A Finalist for Lehr - from www.KFFL.com
Fri, 11 Mar 2005 13:07:26 -0800

Lee Rasizer and Jeff Legwold, of the Rocky Mountain News, report the Houston Texans are likely a finalist to sign free agent OL Matt Lehr (Rams), who is expected to make a decision over the next few days.

TexansTrueFan
03-11-2005, 07:52 PM
hmm is they guy even any good ?

Vinny
03-11-2005, 08:14 PM
Doesn't matter anymore. He is now a Falcon.Atlanta Falcons: The club filled a hole along its offensive line by reaching a three-year deal with former Rams guard Matt Lehr.

Terms of deal weren't available, but it is believed to be worth a little more than $1 million a year. Lehr, whom the Rams claimed off waivers from the Cowboys last season, will fill the void along the offensive line created by Roberto Garza.

Garza was close to reaching an agreement on a contract with the Ravens Thursday but they had concerns about his knee and didn't give him a contract. The Ravens opted to sign Keydrick Vincent of the Steelers to a three-year, $4.64 million contract.

Lehr has the flexibility to play guard for the Falcons and possibly center if they need him in the future. The Texans, Broncos and Falcons were the final three teams trying to convince Lehr to sign a contract.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2010348

TexansTrueFan
03-11-2005, 09:01 PM
well i guess this thread is pretty much over !!!

TexanFanInCC
03-12-2005, 08:08 PM
lehr, the former offensive guard of the broncos, signed a 3 yr deal with falcons... :thumbdown