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ArlingtonTexan
04-24-2010, 02:32 PM
zone body for the OL

sometexansfan
04-24-2010, 02:33 PM
A player from Colorado State? Shocking.

texasguy346
04-24-2010, 02:33 PM
A Texans draft without a CSU player is like a day without sunshine.

b0ng
04-24-2010, 02:33 PM
I am just so angry I wanted them to grab another TE. That is it, I am turning in my fan card and I am now going to only root for teams who draft according to how I feel they should draft.

Honoring Earl 34
04-24-2010, 02:35 PM
I am just so angry I wanted them to grab another TE. That is it, I am turning in my fan card and I am now going to only root for teams who draft according to how I feel they should draft.

A TE from CSU ?

kiwitexansfan
04-24-2010, 02:35 PM
This pick wins the draft.

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b0ng
04-24-2010, 02:37 PM
A TE from CSU ?

A TE from CSU who also played for A&M for one year.

EDIT: With Bronco connections.

Wolf
04-24-2010, 02:41 PM
National Football Post: Adds some power to the Texans zone-blocking scheme. Can win at the point of attack and should be able to fight for a starting job down the line.


http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/draft/team?team=nfl.t.34&round=

pbat488
04-24-2010, 02:41 PM
Haha, Mayock skipped analysis of Smith and went straight form #186 to #188, Dwyer.

wagonhed
04-24-2010, 02:41 PM
This is the first pick this year that actually has me rolling my eyes... but then again, at least it is a need position.

Maddict5
04-24-2010, 02:42 PM
awesome pick

Dutchrudder
04-24-2010, 02:43 PM
Why did they skip out on Dwyer when they could have gotten this guy 10 picks later???

kiwitexansfan
04-24-2010, 02:45 PM
This is the first pick this year that actually has me rolling my eyes... but then again, at least it is a need position.

This is possibly the best pick in the draft for us, value wise.

Fastest and strongest guard in the combine.

Think Bruce Campbell with no hype and CSU connections.

kiwitexansfan
04-24-2010, 02:45 PM
Why did they skip out on Dwyer when they could have gotten this guy 10 picks later???

Because Shelley is a better player.

Dutchrudder
04-24-2010, 02:47 PM
Because Shelley is a better player.

Is this a joke? An OG from Colorado State is that highly rated? Seriously?

treduke
04-24-2010, 02:47 PM
yeah the texans were really high on sage steele and cindy brunson but shelley
smith's ability to be both an anchor and a sideline reporter is was led then to pick smith!

Maddict5
04-24-2010, 02:51 PM
Is this a joke? An OG from Colorado State is that highly rated? Seriously?

we're in the mid 6th rd. i dont think thats 'highly rated'. dwyer was just overrated

Wolf6151
04-24-2010, 02:53 PM
Nothing like 6th round CSU scrubs to make our very weak O-line better. Very disappointed that this franchise has never put any importance on the O-line. I just shake my head in disbelief.

That's 4 bad picks in a row when this draft started off so well, simply amazing. It must require alot of effort to screw up this bad.

stingray
04-24-2010, 03:10 PM
Nailed this pick. The only one.

http://www.texanstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=70487

ChampionTexan
04-24-2010, 03:15 PM
This is a shameless ploy to give ESPN a reason to do a story on us:

http://assets.espn.go.com/media/motion/2009/1213/CHI_NFL_SHELLY_SMITH_RECAP.jpg

Dutchrudder
04-24-2010, 03:18 PM
This is a shameless ploy to give ESPN a reason to do a story on us:

http://assets.espn.go.com/media/motion/2009/1213/CHI_NFL_SHELLY_SMITH_RECAP.jpg

eh... Erin Andrews would have been a much better pick.

Maddict5
04-24-2010, 03:20 PM
Nothing like 6th round CSU scrubs to make our very weak O-line better. Very disappointed that this franchise has never put any importance on the O-line. I just shake my head in disbelief.

That's 4 bad picks in a row when this draft started off so well, simply amazing. It must require alot of effort to screw up this bad.

child please....

bckey
04-24-2010, 03:23 PM
I like this pick. Maybe this guy can win a guard spot this year.

TimeKiller
04-24-2010, 04:55 PM
Meh.

At best?

Jackie Chiles
04-24-2010, 05:26 PM
Meh.

At best?

6th round, What did you expect exaclty, Iupati?

GP
04-24-2010, 06:14 PM
This pick wins the draft.

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I am holding you accountable for this pick. :foottap:

You must have seen this guy play. You seem to know a lot about him.

So please share why you made this pick.

kiwitexansfan
04-24-2010, 06:17 PM
I am holding you accountable for this pick. :foottap:

You must have seen this guy play. You seem to know a lot about him.

So please share why you made this pick.

Just what I read about him.

People wanted a OG, we got one that fits the ZBS perfectly, plays with attitude and is a real athlete.

What more can you ask for from a late round pick?

That and I love interior lineman.

Caldwell was my man crush from last draft too.

ArlingtonTexan
04-24-2010, 07:48 PM
eh... Erin Andrews would have been a much better pick.

was he/she available in the draft also?

Dutchrudder
04-24-2010, 08:07 PM
was he/she available in the draft also?

Why wouldn't she be available? With legs like that we could let her compete for Kris Brown's job.

ArlingtonTexan
04-24-2010, 08:13 PM
Why wouldn't she be available? With legs like that we could let her compete for Kris Brown's job.

Just trying to figure out if you knew that pic was of ESPN reporter Shelley Smith

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shelley_Smith

Dutchrudder
04-24-2010, 08:29 PM
Just trying to figure out if you knew that pic was of ESPN reporter Shelley Smith

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shelley_Smith

http://ants.planet.ee/trap/o%20rly%20a%20clever%20ruse.gif

GP
04-24-2010, 09:39 PM
After all the hard work and diligence of rounds 1-5, Kubiak goes and selects a guy from CSU in the 6th.

He took care of business in rounds 1-5, and smoked a cigarette after drafting a CSU guy. Then promptly fell asleep without even cuddling with Smith.

Wolf
04-25-2010, 01:35 PM
Shelley Smith and Cole Pemberton started alongside one another for three years at CSU and in the East-West Shrine Game in January.

Now, they're heading into the NFL together, hoping to earn roster spots with the Houston Texans.

Smith, a 6-foot-3, 300-pound guard, was selected Saturday by the Texans in the sixth round of the NFL Draft, while Pemberton, a 6-7, 315-pound tackle, agreed soon after the draft ended to a free-agent deal with the texans




Smith was the only player from a school in Colorado selected in this year's draft, going to the Texans with the 18th pick in the sixth round, No. 187 overall. His stock in the draft went up after he attended the combine, where he ranked among the top five offensive linemen in three of the six agility tests. His 34-inch vertical leap was second-best, his 9-foot, 4-inch broad jump was fourth-best, and his 5.11-second 40-yard dash was the fifth-best.

Texans coach Gary Kubiak, whose sons Klint and Klay played with Smith at CSU, said Smith can play either guard or center in the NFL.

"He'll be fine; he'll make the team," CSU offensive coordinator and offensive line coach Pat Meyer said. "He's just got to stick to it and be himself."

Pemberton was considered a possible seventh-round draft choice but now gets a chance to earn a spot on a Texans roster that has four other former CSU players on its roster - receiver David Anderson, tackle Mike Brisiel, tight end Joel Dreesen and defensive end Jesse Nading. John Benton, a former CSU line coach and co-offensive coordinator, is the Texans' offensive line coach, Fort Collins native and ex-CSU player Rick Dennison is the offensive coordinator, and Marc Lubick, a CSU assistant for the past five seasons, is a first-year offensive assistant with the team.


http://www.coloradoan.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=20104250329

rmartin65
04-25-2010, 02:15 PM
We are becoming Colorado State South. Interesting.

I am excited about Smith and the UDFA though. I think they both play with the certain nastiness this line needs.

threetoedpete
04-25-2010, 02:53 PM
6th round, What did you expect exaclty, Iupati?

Agreed. They would have had to give up the farm to move up and Take Earl Thomas or Iupati. they did what they always do draft players to create competition at the sore spots. I wanted Iupati in the worst way. I take this pick as a message to me not to panic. The o-line will be ok. If Mitchell and Dorin and Ben Tate work out, this will be a very rich draft. Bottom line is these players are the ones who will give us enough of a lift to win the division.

dalemurphy
04-25-2010, 03:12 PM
This guy is a good athlete. He's strong, fairly explosive, and has good size. In addition to that, he's been a 3-4 year starter. He has a lot of experience in the zone blocking system. And, despite struggling with an injury last season, he didn't give up any sacks... so, he's been productive. I don't know why he's a 6th round pick. But, based on that information, I would be very surprised if he isn't immediately a qualified backup and perhaps he can push one of these three interior guys.

If so, that's pretty darn good for a 6th round pick.

Blake
04-25-2010, 03:45 PM
This guy is a good athlete. He's strong, fairly explosive, and has good size.

That aint no joke.

Out of all the offensive linemen at the combine, this shows his explosiveness.

34" vertical jump. Good enough for #2 at the combine.

9' 4" broad jump. Good enough for #4 at the combine.

5.11 40 yard dash. Good enough for #5 at the combine.

TheRealJoker
04-25-2010, 04:40 PM
This guy has Kasey Studdard's nastiness (you've gotta have a mean streak with a name like Shelley) with the athleticism we covet for the ZBS.

Great value in the 6th round.

sbalderrama
04-25-2010, 05:50 PM
We are becoming Colorado State South. Interesting.


This must be my fault. I went to school at CSU, lived in Ft. Collins/Boulder/Denver for a long time and moved to Houston the same year Kubiak did.

WolverineFan
04-25-2010, 07:53 PM
Admittedly didn't know much about this guy. I was hoping for a guy like Mike Johnson, but all I'm hearing is good things about him.

TheRealJoker
04-25-2010, 08:02 PM
Admittedly didn't know much about this guy. I was hoping for a guy like Mike Johnson, but all I'm hearing is good things about him.

Mike Johnson is a better fit for a power blocking OL.

WolverineFan
04-25-2010, 08:04 PM
Mike Johnson is a better fit for a power blocking OL.

That's not what I heard or saw but oh well.

Multiple time all-conference player for Alabama, who runs the ZBS.

TheRealJoker
04-25-2010, 08:31 PM
That's not what I heard or saw but oh well.

Multiple time all-conference player for Alabama, who runs the ZBS.

http://www.draftcountdown.com/ScoutingReports/OG/Mike-Johnson.php

Strengths:
A large frame with long arms --- Is technically sound --- Understands positioning and angles --- Natural knee bender --- Gets a good push in the run game --- Can anchor in pass protection --- Is able to control defenders once locked on --- Will work to the second level --- Excellent motor --- Tough --- Smart with terrific instincts and awareness --- Great work ethic --- Versatile --- Durable --- A ton of high - quality experience.

Weaknesses:
Not a great athlete --- Heavy feet --- Questionable balance --- Is not overly quick or agile --- Footwork needs refinement --- Will get caught reaching --- Struggles in space --- Needs to get stronger --- Isn't stout at the point of attack --- Not very violent or physical --- Limited upside.

Notes:
A three-year starter for the Crimson Tide and owns the school record for games played with 54 --- Named 1st Team All-SEC in 2009 and 2nd Team in 2008 --- A 1st Team All-American in 2009 --- Never missed a game in college, a streak that included 41 consecutive starts --- Saw extensive action at both tackle and guard and has demonstrated the ability to hold his own outside in a pinch --- Certainly not flashy but a solid all-around blocker with excellent intangibles --- Can compete for a starting job but should at the very least be a versatile valuable backup.

keyser
04-25-2010, 10:23 PM
We are becoming Colorado State South. Interesting.

I am excited about Smith and the UDFA though. I think they both play with the certain nastiness this line needs.

When I first heard of Smith, I was pretty ambivalent. I thought this was just a "we're picking a CSU player" pick (does any other team draft CSU players?!?), and probably a reach, but was happy to finally have an OL pick (plus, it was only a 6th round pick). However, after looking at him more, I'm starting to think this was a really good pick. It was not a reach (if any 6th round pick could be called a reach) - he was among the group of better players left on the board at the time. It was a position of need (to me, one of our biggest needs - I'm still upset we didn't address OL earlier in the draft). And, the CSU connection means that they are already more familiar with him than a general prospect - while this can lead to bias in selecting players, it can also be a benefit once they're here.

beerlover
04-26-2010, 12:51 AM
CSU nothing much more to say other than he had a great combine so he went about the right spot.

The Pencil Neck
04-26-2010, 12:59 AM
When I first heard of Smith, I was pretty ambivalent. I thought this was just a "we're picking a CSU player" pick (does any other team draft CSU players?!?), and probably a reach, but was happy to finally have an OL pick (plus, it was only a 6th round pick). However, after looking at him more, I'm starting to think this was a really good pick. It was not a reach (if any 6th round pick could be called a reach) - he was among the group of better players left on the board at the time. It was a position of need (to me, one of our biggest needs - I'm still upset we didn't address OL earlier in the draft). And, the CSU connection means that they are already more familiar with him than a general prospect - while this can lead to bias in selecting players, it can also be a benefit once they're here.

No, no, no.

It means much, much more than that.

CSU runs an offense set up by Alex Gibbs. This guy already has several years of experience... in our system. This guy is about as close to a plug and play situation as we're going to get. I seriously expect this guy to challenge for one of the guard spots and be an upgrade.

I'm very excited by this pick.

maddogmrb
04-26-2010, 10:15 AM
Good pick at a position of need.

Ole Miss Texan
04-26-2010, 02:09 PM
I'm excited about this pick. Sure jokes can be made about the school he played for, I get it. We pick up all the Bronco and Colorado St. castoffs. Whatever. But looking at it from a football player / positional need / draft value standpoint, what more could you ask for? Would everybody be excited about this if he had Alabama or Miami next to his name?

Guy fits the ZBS, has the nastiness we want in a player and has the athleticism to warrant the pick. It's a 6th round pick and we take a "flyer" on a guy who might provide depth to the OL (an area of need) as a young player and develop into a potential starter. There's not too many OG's in this draft with his 'skillset' that are as coveted by a team like the Texans.

Rey
04-27-2010, 02:16 PM
Shelley Smith, G, Colorado State
Sixth round (187th overall)

Strahm: "We tried to address this issue in the draft early, but there were very few interior linemen. It was very thin in the position, and we were very fortunate in our sixth round pick to get him. 6-3, 300 pounds, from Westview High School in Phoenix. Three-year starter. Captain. Has got a degree. He's got great toughness. He's athletic. He's got good lateral range with good C.O.D. (change of direction). He can strike and sustain his run blocks. He's got good mobility for a big interior kind of lineman, good in-line strength. He's got power to gain what we call movement off the line, so he'll come out and do that. We see this guy having a chance to soak at that position and eventually help us interiorly."


http://www.houstontexans.com/news/Story.asp?story_id=6136

TimeKiller
04-29-2010, 11:28 AM
Possible OL starters?

Brown-Smith-Myers-Caldwell-Winston?
Butler-Smith-White-Brisel-Pemberton backups?

Blake
04-29-2010, 11:35 AM
I think Shelley Smith will be a practice squad body.

OL = 8 (Brown, Butler, Studdard, Myers, W. Smith, Brisiel, Caldwell, Winston)

Brown - Studdard - Myers - Brisiel - Winston
Butler - W. Smith - W. Smith - Caldwell - Butler

dalemurphy
04-29-2010, 11:38 AM
I think Shelley Smith will be a practice squad body.

OL = 8 (Brown, Butler, Studdard, Myers, W. Smith, Brisiel, Caldwell, Winston)

Brown - Studdard - Myers - Brisiel - Winston
Butler - W. Smith - W. Smith - Caldwell - Butler

There is no way we go into the season with only 8 Oline... unless, a ninth (chester pitts) is on PUP... otherwise, we are going to have 9 OLmen.

HOU-TEX
04-29-2010, 11:47 AM
I think Shelley Smith will be a practice squad body.

OL = 8 (Brown, Butler, Studdard, Myers, W. Smith, Brisiel, Caldwell, Winston)

Brown - Studdard - Myers - Brisiel - Winston
Butler - W. Smith - W. Smith - Caldwell - Butler

Unless he stinks it up big time in camp, I don't think Shelley would be put on the PS where any team could grab him.

This team will have several difficult decisions to make when it comes down to roster space. The TE, RB, Oline, DT, CB and WR positions should all have decent competitions. It's a good thing!

The Pencil Neck
04-29-2010, 11:57 AM
Possible OL starters?

Brown-Smith-Myers-Caldwell-Winston?
Butler-Smith-White-Brisel-Pemberton backups?

Brown-Smith-Caldwell-Brisiel-Winston

Or...

Brown-Smith-Caldwell-Myers-Winston
(Remember, Myers was used primarily at RG at Denver, iirc.)

This is assuming that Caldwell's stint at guard was an attempt to teach him the line calls in game situations without having him actually at the C position. And that all this "he's got the body of a guard" stuff is just BS.

But if it's not BS, then I think we get your original line.

The question now is... which Smith starts and which Smith is a backup. :kitten:

Blake
04-29-2010, 12:08 PM
Unless he stinks it up big time in camp, I don't think Shelley would be put on the PS where any team could grab him.

This team will have several difficult decisions to make when it comes down to roster space. The TE, RB, Oline, DT, CB and WR positions should all have decent competitions. It's a good thing!

If they took him off our PS they would have to sign him to their 53 man roster. And I think we still get first option to sign him to ours first.

steelbtexan
04-29-2010, 12:13 PM
No, no, no.

It means much, much more than that.

CSU runs an offense set up by Alex Gibbs. This guy already has several years of experience... in our system. This guy is about as close to a plug and play situation as we're going to get. I seriously expect this guy to challenge for one of the guard spots and be an upgrade.

I'm very excited by this pick.

I hope you're right.

I dot think you can use the words quck and explosive to describe any of the vets on the interior OL.

Hopefully Smith can replace Studdard at some point next season.

I would move Winston inside to OG and start Butler.

badboy
04-29-2010, 12:20 PM
There is no way we go into the season with only 8 Oline... unless, a ninth (chester pitts) is on PUP... otherwise, we are going to have 9 OLmen.Did Chester Pitts sign anywhere yet? I know he made a visit or two but I've not seen anything on him for a while.

Blake
04-29-2010, 01:40 PM
Did Chester Pitts sign anywhere yet? I know he made a visit or two but I've not seen anything on him for a while.

Nothing yet. I think he is gonna be a last minute signing by someone since he is not even 100% yet.

CloakNNNdagger
04-29-2010, 05:31 PM
Did Chester Pitts sign anywhere yet? I know he made a visit or two but I've not seen anything on him for a while.

Nothing yet. I think he is gonna be a last minute signing by someone since he is not even 100% yet.

Pitts signed with the 49ers.

JB
04-29-2010, 05:41 PM
Pitts signed with the 49ers.

link?

Austrian
04-29-2010, 05:43 PM
Pitts signed with the 49ers.

I'm not seeing it anywhere, do you have any link?

sometexansfan
04-29-2010, 05:49 PM
Pitts signed with the 49ers.

He's not listed on their roster, so it looks like he's still a FA.