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Errant Hothy
04-24-2010, 01:27 PM
And the winner is....

The Colorado State guy obviously!

Board go boom?

treduke
04-24-2010, 01:27 PM
shelly smith any info guys?

Maddict5
04-24-2010, 01:27 PM
No CSU guys thus far. I bet we take at least one. Looked at NFL.com and they show OG Shelley Smith available.

rep. good call

Wolf
04-24-2010, 01:28 PM
No CSU guys thus far. I bet we take at least one. Looked at NFL.com and they show OG Shelley Smith available.

repped you on that .. Good call

kiwitexansfan
04-24-2010, 01:28 PM
Now for a S with our other 6 round pick and everyone will be happy.

texasguy346
04-24-2010, 01:28 PM
shelly smith any info guys?

He had better be tough with a name like Shelley.

TheRealJoker
04-24-2010, 01:29 PM
No CSU guys thus far. I bet we take at least one. Looked at NFL.com and they show OG Shelley Smith available.

Great call!!!

stingray
04-24-2010, 01:29 PM
I always tought they would pick Shelley Smith. Makes sense.

Honoring Earl 34
04-24-2010, 01:29 PM
and Shelly Smith it is.

Looks mean .

http://cdn0.sbnation.com/imported_assets/354626/final4-shelleysmith.jpg

Hoss
04-24-2010, 01:29 PM
Shelley Smith OG...other then two picks this draft is TEH SUCK!!!!

Thorn
04-24-2010, 01:29 PM
shelly smith any info guys?

found this

Pass blocking: Strong initial contact, able to anchor against most tackles. Will bend at the waist and lean too far forward to engage or rest his hands instead of moving his feet; will lose his balance against quicker NFL tackles. Once a rusher falls, will work to keep him on the ground. Gets pushed back initially but anchors before giving up too much ground. Adept at punching inside with one hand, then moving to double on the edge on combo block. Keeps his head on a swivel while helping the center when no one is head-up against him. Aware of inside blitzes, and switches men quickly to pick them up.

Run blocking: Average strength at the point of attack; won't turn men out of the hole but rarely gets beat, either. Not dominant up front but gets some push. Moves to second level to knock out the MIKE linebacker quickly and effectively. latches onto his target and sustains throughout the play, and sometimes through the whistle. Will do what it takes to eliminate linebacker, holding inside of the jersey when necessary.

Pulling/trapping: Very good feet to get out of his stance, behind the line and greet defenders whether trapping inside or getting out on the edge. Will explode into linebacker in space and sustain the block when his hands are in contact. Will punch at times, knocking back defender but allowing him to return to the ball. Effective cut blocker.

Initial Quickness: Adequate off the snap in pass pro; does not get beat immediately. Will need to improve at the next level firing off the ball as a run blocker when facing better competition.

Downfield: Very good mobility, able to head 25-30 yards downfield to block. Plays with enough nastiness to plant a defensive back or linebacker into the turf and stay on them. Will get off one block to follow running back downfield and find another target. Misses defenders coming from the inside and gets too picky in his downfield targets, allowing the tackle to be made.

Intangibles: Veteran of 31 starts was looked to as one of the leaders on the offense. Ankle injury that caused him to miss first part of 2009 should not be an issue. Plays hard every snap, willing to protect and back up teammates on the field.

Dash
04-24-2010, 01:29 PM
10 picks till Pike? I'm hoping.

rmartin65
04-24-2010, 01:30 PM
I like it!!! The type of player the Texans like on the line. Mobile, and he has a bit of a mean streak. First pick of the day that I am enthused about.

Thorn
04-24-2010, 01:30 PM
LOL, Dwyer goes right after our pick.

kiwitexansfan
04-24-2010, 01:30 PM
I like this write up!

LINK (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/557128)

Overview
Despite missing the first three games of 2009 with an ankle injury suffered in preseason practice, Smith earned honorable-mention All-Mountain West honors because of his strength and athleticism.

Smith redshirted coming off an all-state high school career in Arizona on both sides of the line, then played sparingly in 2006. He earned the starting left guard spot in 2007, then turned his game up a notch as a junior, receiving second-team all-conference accolades.

Smith's ability to move defenders at will and get out in front of run plays will gain him fans among NFL offensive line coaches, especially those using zone-blocking schemes. The fact he was among the quickest (5.03-second 40, 1.74 10-yard split) and strongest (26 reps) guards at the combine means scouts will also be on board when coaches want to select him sometime Draft Saturday.

Wolf
04-24-2010, 01:30 PM
steelers get JD

Dash
04-24-2010, 01:30 PM
Shelley Smith OG...other then two pick this draft is TEH SUCK!!!!

Nah its been pretty solid.

texasguy346
04-24-2010, 01:31 PM
Looks like he was graded as a mid 4th round pick on NFL.com.

Grams
04-24-2010, 01:31 PM
Pro Potential ... He could flourish with the right team and the right system. He might not be a bulldozer for a power-running team, but with his great quickness and athleticism he’d be perfect for a West Coast offense. He didn’t allow a sack last season and has the feet and movement to handle interior pass rushers at the next level. Most importantly, he’ll be great for teams looking make things happen on the outside with the ability to move fluidly when he’s on the move. Going into the season, he’s projected to be a fifth rounder in the 2010

pbat488
04-24-2010, 01:31 PM
Effective cut blocker.


This plus being a CSU guy, too hard to pass for Smithiak!

kiwitexansfan
04-24-2010, 01:32 PM
Guy sounds like a beast, strongest, fastest OG in the draft.

texasguy346
04-24-2010, 01:32 PM
I wouldn't mind the Texans picking up Zac Robinson or Jevan Snead if they go undrafted.

awtysst
04-24-2010, 01:32 PM
He had better be tough with a name like Shelley.

Dads, this is why you name your sons Sue or Shelly
:hides:

kiwitexansfan
04-24-2010, 01:33 PM
Dads, this is why you name your sons Sue or Shelly
:hides:

Or Jayne...

http://whiteafrican.com/wp-content/Firefly%20-%20Serenity%20-%20Jayne.jpg

treduke
04-24-2010, 01:34 PM
http://www.espnmediazone3.com/us/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/Smith_Shelley.jpg

kiwitexansfan
04-24-2010, 01:35 PM
The Raiders getting their insurance pick for when McClain busts.

The Pencil Neck
04-24-2010, 01:35 PM
Trindon Holliday, LSU?

I've got him as KR.

texasguy346
04-24-2010, 01:36 PM
I wonder if Stafon Johnson will get drafted.

awtysst
04-24-2010, 01:36 PM
Dwyer goes. Where are all the gloom and doomers telling us how foolish the Texans are for passing on Dwyer?!

texasguy346
04-24-2010, 01:36 PM
The Raiders getting their insurance pick for when McClain busts.

They also traded away Kirk Morrison. Looks like they drafted a replacement.

kiwitexansfan
04-24-2010, 01:37 PM
Bills should draft Pike.

gary
04-24-2010, 01:37 PM
I hope they go wideout.

kiwitexansfan
04-24-2010, 01:38 PM
Dwyer goes. Where are all the gloom and doomers telling us how foolish the Texans are for passing on Dwyer?!

Stupid Texans, now Dwyer is a Steeler. Steelers always draft great backs.

Man we suck.

Is that what you had in mind?

texasguy346
04-24-2010, 01:40 PM
Blair White and Antonio Brown are still on the board. Two WRs I think could be pretty good.

awtysst
04-24-2010, 01:40 PM
Stupid Texans, now Dwyer is a Steeler. Steelers always draft great backs.

Man we suck.

Is that what you had in mind?

Thank you sir!

Hoss
04-24-2010, 01:40 PM
haha bills still passing up on QB!!!lol

Honoring Earl 34
04-24-2010, 01:41 PM
Stupid Texans, now Dwyer is a Steeler. Steelers always draft great backs.

Man we suck.

Is that what you had in mind?

I bet they make him a guard .

TexCanada
04-24-2010, 01:41 PM
Blair White and Antonio Brown are still on the board. Two WRs I think could be pretty good.

White could be nice replacement for Andre Davis possibly

Errant Hothy
04-24-2010, 01:41 PM
Matt Dodge, P, ECU.

JB
04-24-2010, 01:41 PM
I would not have thought that Briscoe would have lated so long

kiwitexansfan
04-24-2010, 01:42 PM
I bet they make him a guard .

Or a LB.

TexansBull
04-24-2010, 01:42 PM
He had better be tough with a name like Shelley.

I bet he is. Did you ever hear of that guy named Sue?

TheRealJoker
04-24-2010, 01:42 PM
I watched Blair White quite a bit this season. David Anderson clone and a hell of a player. I certainly woudn't mind having him here.

gary
04-24-2010, 01:44 PM
Blair White and Antonio Brown are still on the board. Two WRs I think could be pretty good.I'd take either one at this point.

Hoss
04-24-2010, 01:44 PM
3 more picks away...any bets?

Thorn
04-24-2010, 01:44 PM
I'm sticking around long enough to see what we get for Travis Williams, then off to the store. I think it would be hilarious if we picked up another DT here.

Hoss
04-24-2010, 01:45 PM
I'm sticking around long enough to see what we get for Travis Williams, then off to the store. I think it would be hilarious if we picked up another DT here.

:facepalm:Thorn!

Jackie Chiles
04-24-2010, 01:46 PM
I'm sticking around long enough to see what we get for Travis Williams, then off to the store. I think it would be hilarious if we picked up another DT here.

hahaha, hes so bad we can't remember his name. I like it.

texasguy346
04-24-2010, 01:46 PM
Wow the guy the Ravens just drafted is listed as 6'7" and 360 lbs. Combine him with Cody and they have nearly half a ton with those two picks alone.

texasguy346
04-24-2010, 01:46 PM
There went Antonio Brown to the Steelers.

Mike Kerns
04-24-2010, 01:47 PM
Myron Freaking Rolle, please.

TexCanada
04-24-2010, 01:48 PM
I'll guess its Pike

Hoss
04-24-2010, 01:48 PM
myron freaking rolle, please.

+1...

kiwitexansfan
04-24-2010, 01:49 PM
Wow the guy the Ravens just drafted is listed as 6'7" and 360 lbs. Combine him with Cody and they have nearly half a ton with those two picks alone.

I think the Texans are the anti-Ravens in our draft philosophy.

texasguy346
04-24-2010, 01:49 PM
Myron Freaking Rolle, please.

I'd like Rolle or McCarthy. If they go WR I'd like Blair White.

Jackie Chiles
04-24-2010, 01:50 PM
Trade it for a future pick. Repeat next year and the next until we wind up with a 1st rounder for TJ.

The Pencil Neck
04-24-2010, 01:50 PM
There are still some "known" players hanging around.

Although we might be able to get him in the 7th or as an UDFA, isn't John Estes from Hawaii a good fit for a ZBS at center?

TexCanada
04-24-2010, 01:51 PM
Trade it for a future pick. Repeat next year and the next until we wind up with a 1st rounder for TJ.

I like this plan, very sneaky

Thorn
04-24-2010, 01:52 PM
Oh hell, I just realized I got his name wrong! LOL

Stupid Thorn, can't even insult someone right. :kitten:

pbat488
04-24-2010, 01:52 PM
c'mon rolllleeee

Grams
04-24-2010, 01:53 PM
Texans pick again - commercial again

pbat488
04-24-2010, 01:53 PM
anyone else watching on ESPN notice the Texans fan at Radio City Music Hall when showing the fans cheering for Kiper?

and of course, commercial during Texans pick...

Jackie Chiles
04-24-2010, 01:54 PM
Oh hell, I just realized I got his name wrong! LOL

Stupid Thorn, can't even insult someone right. :kitten:

That was the greatest insult you could have given.

gary
04-24-2010, 01:54 PM
Pick is in.

pbat488
04-24-2010, 01:54 PM
Trindon Holliday!

texasguy346
04-24-2010, 01:54 PM
They took Holliday.

The Pencil Neck
04-24-2010, 01:54 PM
Holliday!!!

I like it! :)

stingray
04-24-2010, 01:54 PM
Trinton Holliday.

TexCanada
04-24-2010, 01:54 PM
Trindon Holliday, that should make some people around here happy

mariowillshine15
04-24-2010, 01:54 PM
Holliday! Boo ya!

Grams
04-24-2010, 01:54 PM
Holiday - LSU

Errant Hothy
04-24-2010, 01:54 PM
Trindon Holliday c'mon on down.

Jackie Chiles
04-24-2010, 01:54 PM
Nice pick, Trindon Holliday.

Thorn
04-24-2010, 01:54 PM
huh? ****, well, here I go off to google again.

kiwitexansfan
04-24-2010, 01:54 PM
Hey, I threw that guys name out.

I must be a freaking genius!

Good pick up.

Maddict5
04-24-2010, 01:54 PM
TRINDON! a sexy pick. i like it just watched his youtube highlights again half an hour ago

Mailman
04-24-2010, 01:55 PM
Great pick imo. Dude's a burner!

TheRealJoker
04-24-2010, 01:55 PM
Andre Davis' replacement?

Porky
04-24-2010, 01:55 PM
Good pick! The guy can blaze. Fastest at the combine. Tiny but can be a demon on returns I would think.

Honoring Earl 34
04-24-2010, 01:55 PM
huh? ****, well, here I go off to google again.

World class sprinter .

texasguy346
04-24-2010, 01:55 PM
Looks like JJ and Davis won't be returning kicks anymore (provided Holliday makes the team).

Mike Kerns
04-24-2010, 01:56 PM
A kick returner. Wow. Are we so good to make specialist picks now?

5'5", 166?

The1ApplePie
04-24-2010, 01:56 PM
Dat speed!

Jackie Chiles
04-24-2010, 01:56 PM
Andre Davis' replacement?

I believe so.

Thorn
04-24-2010, 01:57 PM
World class sprinter .

yep, first two places I hit said the same thing, he's gonna be a real burner on kick returns. This is a nice pick for the 6th round.

The Pencil Neck
04-24-2010, 01:57 PM
A kick returner. Wow. Are we so good to make specialist picks now?

5'5", 166?

Yes.

This could be a stellar pick.

Mike Kerns
04-24-2010, 01:57 PM
Looks like Jacoby may be getting more time as a WR and less time as a return man.

bigfan77801
04-24-2010, 01:57 PM
I'm just going to stop watching ESPN, and come here.

kiwitexansfan
04-24-2010, 01:57 PM
I saw 4.21 for his 40 time.

That is FAST!

kiwitexansfan
04-24-2010, 01:58 PM
I'm just going to stop watching ESPN, and come here.

You should have been here all along my man.

Thorn
04-24-2010, 01:58 PM
Looks like Jacoby may be getting more time as a WR and less time as a return man.

If that's true, I have to wonder where Andre Davis fits in now?

Maddict5
04-24-2010, 01:58 PM
A kick returner. Wow. Are we so good to make specialist picks now?

5'5", 166?

your really looking at 90% backups/cuts at this stage. he has a really good chance at being an impact player a few times every game

The Pencil Neck
04-24-2010, 01:58 PM
I saw 4.21 for his 40 time.

That is FAST!

Think Jerome Mathis but scarier.

Let's hope his head is on straighter than Jerome's was.

TheRealJoker
04-24-2010, 01:59 PM
A kick returner. Wow. Are we so good to make specialist picks now?

5'5", 166?

Are we so bad that we expect to find contributors on offense/defense in the 6th round outside of a specialty role?

Maddict5
04-24-2010, 01:59 PM
If that's true, I have to wonder where Andre Davis fits in now?

andres still a useful backup. plus its not like he's just a kr- hes a good gunner also

Porky
04-24-2010, 02:00 PM
Doesn't this guy weigh like 160 and is all of 5' 5"? Damn good pick, but my question is how can he stay healthy. He's going to get laid out on returns. He's so fast, he better out run them all. And I think Davis is officially on notice. I could also see him used as someone in trick play packages. The 6th round has been brilliant. Almost makes up for the 4th! :kingkong:

phantom17
04-24-2010, 02:00 PM
I like this pick! He could also be a slot receiver, when they go "empty backfield"! I think this could be a nightmare to the opposing D!

Jackie Chiles
04-24-2010, 02:00 PM
Let's hope his head is on straighter than Jerome's was.

Shouldn't be difficult.

TheRealJoker
04-24-2010, 02:01 PM
10 bench press reps at 225 for that size is pretty impressive imo.

Mike Kerns
04-24-2010, 02:01 PM
4.21 40 time...

When this guy hits 88 miles per hour…you’re gonna see some serious ****…

gary
04-24-2010, 02:01 PM
Are there two more picks or just one?

Mike Kerns
04-24-2010, 02:01 PM
Are we so bad that we expect to find contributors on offense/defense in the 6th round outside of a specialty role?

Touche.

Thorn
04-24-2010, 02:02 PM
Are there two more picks or just one?

one in the 7th

texasguy346
04-24-2010, 02:02 PM
We have just one more pick left.


Looks like the Texans love the SEC.

ChampionTexan
04-24-2010, 02:02 PM
A kick returner. Wow. Are we so good to make specialist picks now?

5'5", 166?

Without saying yes or no, I don't think you have to be all that good to look to fill a specialist role with a 6th round pick.

phantom17
04-24-2010, 02:02 PM
4.21 40 time...

When this guy hits 88 miles per hour…you’re gonna see some serious ****…

A Steel Blue Blur!

Errant Hothy
04-24-2010, 02:02 PM
We have just one more pick left.


Looks like the Texans love the SEC.

And is there anything wrong with that?

Maddict5
04-24-2010, 02:03 PM
10 bench press reps at 225 for that size is pretty impressive imo.

nowhere near as impressive as mccluster whos less than 10 lbs heavier & did 20 reps

Thorn
04-24-2010, 02:03 PM
Later yall. Need. Beer. Food.

texasguy346
04-24-2010, 02:04 PM
And is there anything wrong with that?

Nope. Especially considering how good the SEC has been to us thus far.

Mailman
04-24-2010, 02:05 PM
Anyone questioning this pick needs to check their cynicism at the door because getting a little guy with ELITE speed at this stage in the draft could be a brilliant move. Trindon Holliday could make an immediate impact on this team in the KR game.

awtysst
04-24-2010, 02:06 PM
If that's true, I have to wonder where Andre Davis fits in now?

I think he is cut now. He gave very little value as a KR. This move allows JJ to focus on just being a WR. Good pick.

awtysst
04-24-2010, 02:06 PM
Anyone questioning this pick needs to check their cynicism at the door because getting a little guy with ELITE speed at this stage in the draft could be a brilliant move. Trindon Holliday could make an immediate impact on this team in the KR game.

and punt return game I think. Plus he can be a gunner on special teams.

Mike Kerns
04-24-2010, 02:07 PM
Holliday is on 610am right now.

Mike Kerns
04-24-2010, 02:08 PM
I think he is cut now. He gave very little value as a KR. This move allows JJ to focus on just being a WR. Good pick.

Agreed. I think Davis is done.

brakos82
04-24-2010, 02:08 PM
I'm surprised Al didn't take him in the 2nd. :kitten:

Dash
04-24-2010, 02:11 PM
Wow like the Holliday pick.

One more shot at a developmental QB.

Hoss
04-24-2010, 02:11 PM
I'm surprised Al didn't take him in the 2nd. :kitten:

:peek:

treduke
04-24-2010, 02:15 PM
well there goes pike!

kiwitexansfan
04-24-2010, 02:15 PM
Third QB taken by the Panthers this draft..... thats playing the odds.

Maddict5
04-24-2010, 02:16 PM
Mike Mayock, NFL Network
197 -- Texans -- KR Trindon Holliday

Holliday is really an interesting pick for the Texans. He's one of the smallest players in college football, but arguably the fastest. His primary use will be on special teams as a return man. But, over time, he could develop into a slot receiver and someone you try and get the ball to on reverses and bubble screens. He's a play-maker in space.

only pick hes covered in ages. pro texans conspiracy!

Dash
04-24-2010, 02:16 PM
There goes Pike. =/

Wolf
04-24-2010, 02:17 PM
Third QB taken by the Panthers this draft..... thats playing the odds.

true

kinda strange but I guess one will go to practice squad

The1ApplePie
04-24-2010, 02:17 PM
Another QB to the Panthers

The Pencil Neck
04-24-2010, 02:18 PM
I think Edwards is a WR prospect.

Pike and Clausen in the same draft. Hmmm. That's called Banging A Need, I guess.

TexanBacker93
04-24-2010, 02:19 PM
We have 1 FB on the roster... TEs = FBs on this team. So, not only do the TEs tend to be very envolved in special teams play, they also account for two positions on the offensive field. With Anthony Hill's injury, OD's contract situation, they are going to take some of these guys... If he was a highly rated FB, would you be okay with it? That's essentially what we just took.

I'm not against the pick as much as I'm worried that it could mean they aren't looking at keeping OD around long term. It might be the smart NFL move, but I like OD and would hate to see him somewhere else.

kiwitexansfan
04-24-2010, 02:22 PM
Myron Rolle gone.

AJ can eat that nerds lunch anyway.

TexanBacker93
04-24-2010, 02:23 PM
I think he is cut now. He gave very little value as a KR. This move allows JJ to focus on just being a WR. Good pick.

This would be the perfect year to cut people like that. No cap means the hits don't hurt. Well, they might hurt McNair's pocket a little.

treduke
04-24-2010, 02:26 PM
Myron Rolle gone.

AJ can eat that nerds lunch anyway.

http://chicagonerds.com/wp-includes/images/ogre_nerds.jpg

Xcellerator
04-24-2010, 02:27 PM
Donovan Warren is still on board. Great value in the 7th. Would like an OL or S here too.

El Tejano
04-24-2010, 02:34 PM
My best left:
David Pender CB Purdue
Justin Woodall S Alabama
Lagarette Blount RB Oregon
Jeff Owens DT Georgia
Brandon Deaderick DT Alabama
Jevan Snead QB Ole Miss
Zac Robinson QB Oklahoma St.

dalemurphy
04-24-2010, 02:35 PM
Alex Henderson, RB, Northern Arizona!!!! please?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxZVcujNhOg

TheRealJoker
04-24-2010, 02:38 PM
nowhere near as impressive as mccluster whos less than 10 lbs heavier & did 20 reps

Must be one of many reasons he went early in the 2nd!!!

kiwitexansfan
04-24-2010, 02:42 PM
Calloway is solid value for the 7th.

The Pencil Neck
04-24-2010, 02:44 PM
Calloway is solid value for the 7th.

Still a lot of guys we thought were going earlier still out there.

LonerATO
04-24-2010, 02:44 PM
Every time I switch back to NFLN from ESPN they keep showing those horrible Golden Coral commercials. I swear to Sunny Jesus that in the span of 10 minutes I saw their lame commercial 4 times!

LonerATO
04-24-2010, 02:45 PM
My best left:
David Pender CB Purdue
Justin Woodall S Alabama
Lagarette Blount RB Oregon
Jeff Owens DT Georgia
Brandon Deaderick DT Alabama
Jevan Snead QB Ole Miss
Zac Robinson QB Oklahoma St.

Snead should have waited another year and is more than likely going to be a undrafted

kiwitexansfan
04-24-2010, 02:47 PM
I'm pretty sure over the last 3 days I've posted about 400 times.

I am almost certain Wednesday I was under 4000 posts.

treduke
04-24-2010, 02:49 PM
Snead should have waited another year and is more than likely going to be a undrafted

i concur!

Hoss
04-24-2010, 02:49 PM
http://www.nfl.com/draft/2010/profiles/brandon-carter?id=496998
Brandon carter is still on the board??I thought he was gone already.

ObsiWan
04-24-2010, 02:49 PM
Nice pick, Trindon Holliday.

how come this picture springs to mind?
http://www.disneydreaming.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/mighty-mouse.jpg

rmartin65
04-24-2010, 02:50 PM
I want to see Jeff Owens here in the 7th. Strong NT type, but has the same size as the other Texans DTs. I could see a QB here as well. Hell, this last round (Smith and Holliday) energized me a bit. Smith can be a real nasty player in the trenches, something this team needs. I could see him getting decent playing time by the second half of the season. Holliday is a little speed demon who will allow us to jettison Davis. And give him 5-10 plays on offense, and watch the D squirm.

The Pencil Neck
04-24-2010, 02:50 PM
http://www.nfl.com/draft/2010/profiles/brandon-carter?id=496998
Brandon carter is still on the board??I thought he was gone already.

He is still on the board.

ObsiWan
04-24-2010, 02:52 PM
I saw 4.21 for his 40 time.

That is FAST!

so how did he get past Al Davis?

...Al probably just fired somebody because he missed getting the fastest guy at the Combine

kiwitexansfan
04-24-2010, 02:52 PM
I want to see Jeff Owens here in the 7th. Strong NT type, but has the same size as the other Texans DTs. I could see a QB here as well. Hell, this last round (Smith and Holliday) energized me a bit. Smith can be a real nasty player in the trenches, something this team needs. I could see him getting decent playing time by the second half of the season. Holliday is a little speed demon who will allow us to jettison Davis. And give him 5-10 plays on offense, and watch the D squirm.

Reverses, fake reverses, screens, draws..... if nothing out his speed will be a great misdirection tool because you have to respect it.

TexCanada
04-24-2010, 02:52 PM
I want to see Jeff Owens here in the 7th. Strong NT type, but has the same size as the other Texans DTs. I could see a QB here as well. Hell, this last round (Smith and Holliday) energized me a bit. Smith can be a real nasty player in the trenches, something this team needs. I could see him getting decent playing time by the second half of the season. Holliday is a little speed demon who will allow us to jettison Davis. And give him 5-10 plays on offense, and watch the D squirm.

Jeff Owens would be nice, but I have a feeling he isn't a Smithiak player

kiwitexansfan
04-24-2010, 02:52 PM
so how did he get past Al Davis?

...Al probably just fired somebody because he missed getting the fastest guy at the Combine

He only takes the ones that look the part too.

5-9 160 doesn't look like a Raider.

TexCanada
04-24-2010, 02:53 PM
Reverses, fake reverses, screens, draws..... if nothing out his speed will be a great misdirection tool because you have to respect it.

Ya even if he is just a distraction on a few plays to get the defense leaning towards him a little bit.

LonerATO
04-24-2010, 02:53 PM
http://www.nfl.com/draft/2010/profiles/brandon-carter?id=496998
Brandon carter is still on the board??I thought he was gone already.

pass on that pos

phantom17
04-24-2010, 02:54 PM
so how did he get past Al Davis?

...Al probably just fired somebody because he missed getting the fastest guy at the Combine

LOL! A. Davis probably jumped out from his coffin!

kiwitexansfan
04-24-2010, 02:54 PM
Ya even if he is just a distraction on a few plays to get the defense leaning towards him a little bit.

What the heck, send him deep to uncover AJ underneath.

The options are limitless.

kiwitexansfan
04-24-2010, 02:55 PM
I'm tired just following the draft, the guys in the war room must be knackered.

stingray
04-24-2010, 02:56 PM
so how did he get past Al Davis?

...Al probably just fired somebody because he missed getting the fastest guy at the Combine

He actually did get the fastest guy in the draft. Jacoby Ford.

TexCanada
04-24-2010, 02:57 PM
I'm tired just following the draft, the guys in the war room must be knackered.

Ya it would be a pretty tiring weekend, chances are they only slept an hour or two over the past two nights

stingray
04-24-2010, 02:58 PM
Has anyone noticed if you are watching NFL Network that Jamie Dukes and Jim Mora don't like each other. They are like oil and water.

kiwitexansfan
04-24-2010, 02:59 PM
He actually did get the fastest guy in the draft. Jacoby Ford.

Well that would be a close run thing.

I think they both won their share of races.

The Pencil Neck
04-24-2010, 02:59 PM
Has anyone noticed if you are watching NFL Network that Jamie Dukes and Jim Mora don't like each other. They are like oil and water.

Yeah. That's pretty funny. They both try to talk over the other one and they flat out do not agree.

stingray
04-24-2010, 02:59 PM
Well that would be a close run thing.

I think they both won their share of races.

I meant to say combine. But you're right, it would be a good race.

kiwitexansfan
04-24-2010, 03:01 PM
Ok, one last time everyone.

Who ya got?

dalemurphy
04-24-2010, 03:02 PM
Ok, one last time everyone.

Who ya got?

alex henderson rb

kiwitexansfan
04-24-2010, 03:02 PM
I'm going to go Doug Worthington, Ohio State, DT

The Pencil Neck
04-24-2010, 03:03 PM
Ok, one last time everyone.

Who ya got?

Jeff Byers, OG
Jeff Owens, DT
Vince Oghobasse, DT
Sergio Render, OG
Andre Anderson, RB
Jon Estes, C
Joique Bell, RB

TexanBacker93
04-24-2010, 03:05 PM
Who thinks we go with that FS from Colorado St. in the 7th?

I'm pretty sure the coaching staff is familiar with him.

kiwitexansfan
04-24-2010, 03:05 PM
Showtime people....

pbat488
04-24-2010, 03:05 PM
Lonyae Miller

Xcellerator
04-24-2010, 03:05 PM
Donovan Warren!

Errant Hothy
04-24-2010, 03:06 PM
Well the punters I liked are gone, so give me a fat guy.

TheRealJoker
04-24-2010, 03:06 PM
Hunter Lawrence? LOL

pbat488
04-24-2010, 03:08 PM
BPA. Can't complain getting him in 7th.

GuerillaBlack
04-24-2010, 03:08 PM
What's up with these TE's?

Hoss
04-24-2010, 03:08 PM
another effin te!!!!!

dalemurphy
04-24-2010, 03:08 PM
another TE... makes sense!

Errant Hothy
04-24-2010, 03:08 PM
How about another TE. Dorin Dickerson.

At 6' 4", 2226 lbs he's more like a Coltson-esqe WR then a true TE.

LikeMike
04-24-2010, 03:08 PM
Another TE? Now that`s funny... at least he`s great value in the 7th...

LonerATO
04-24-2010, 03:08 PM
Board implodes in 3.2.1

Xcellerator
04-24-2010, 03:08 PM
Another TE! Dickerson is rated 7.7 on nfl.com.

HouSportsWriter
04-24-2010, 03:08 PM
wtfffffffffffffffffffffffffff te!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! why not legernat blont!

TexCanada
04-24-2010, 03:08 PM
Alright, a need pick again lol. TE!

The Pencil Neck
04-24-2010, 03:08 PM
LOL.

Dorin Dickerson.

He was up near the top of my board but... I didn't expect us to take another TE.

That's... Funny.

gtexan02
04-24-2010, 03:08 PM
lol, thats all I can say.


I think this is a PURE value pick. This guy was a 3rd or 4th round grade available in the 7th

Wolf
04-24-2010, 03:08 PM
TE LOL


Smithiak picks TE's as much as Casserly/capers picked QBs

kiwitexansfan
04-24-2010, 03:09 PM
It has become an annual tradition to double tap the TE tree.

Dorin Dickerson is probably spending time at FB or at the most HB.

No way I want to see him on the LOS.

He has some mad skills though.

The Pencil Neck
04-24-2010, 03:09 PM
I mean.

Kid's a player, though.

This is a BPA type of pick.

Mailman
04-24-2010, 03:09 PM
Did we draft his as a fullback?

pbat488
04-24-2010, 03:09 PM
wtfffffffffffffffffffffffffff te!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! why not legernat blont!

Head-On, apply directly to forehead. Head-On, apply directly to forehead. Head-On, apply directly to forehead...

TexCanada
04-24-2010, 03:10 PM
He sounds like he is just an athlete that doesn't really have a defined position yet, at least thats what one thing I just read said. Could be TE/WR/HB/FB

Jackie Chiles
04-24-2010, 03:10 PM
BPA. Can't complain getting him in 7th.

Agreed, BPA by a longshot probably. He could be a great STs guy with that speed and disposition.

TexanBacker93
04-24-2010, 03:10 PM
I thought he'd take Klint Kubiak before another TE. I should have known better. Why did this guy drop so much?

Xcellerator
04-24-2010, 03:10 PM
Dickerson runs a 4.4 40. That's fast.

djohn2oo8
04-24-2010, 03:10 PM
They should have just drafted Tight Ends in every round, it seems like they did anyway

rmartin65
04-24-2010, 03:10 PM
I dont care if he was BPA. Another freaking TE? What are we trying to do, field a team of TEs? This is asinine. I came to terms with the other one. But this is unforgivable.

The Pencil Neck
04-24-2010, 03:10 PM
NOW...

Which of these guys do we get as UDFA?

Mailman
04-24-2010, 03:10 PM
TE LOL


Smithiak picks TE's as much as Casserly/capers picked QBs

"Dickerson is an athlete that has lined up everywhere from tight end to wide receiver to linebacker to fullback. He has never taken a position and taken it over although he has shown flashes everywhere he lined up. He will probably end up as a fullback/H back that is used in situations and can line up in a variety of positions. He is athletic and catches the ball well but is not going to threaten many secondaries down the middle. He has decent straight line speed as a fullback but lacks a big burst as he hits the hole. He is not apt to be the kind of fullback that you want to be the lead blocker in a power running game."

kiwitexansfan
04-24-2010, 03:10 PM
OK.

We should be able to run some really nice 3 TE sets this year.

TexCanada
04-24-2010, 03:11 PM
It says he ran a 4.4 40

treduke
04-24-2010, 03:11 PM
:facepalm:i cant wait to see this new 5 tight end set that kubes is working on

Mailman
04-24-2010, 03:11 PM
I dont care if he was BPA. Another freaking TE? What are we trying to do, field a team of TEs? This is asinine. I came to terms with the other one. But this is unforgivable.

Unforgivable?

Back away from the hyperbole keyboard....it's a 7th round pick.

drs23
04-24-2010, 03:12 PM
Blount UDFA?

kiwitexansfan
04-24-2010, 03:12 PM
We just drafted James Casey 2.0.

The Pencil Neck
04-24-2010, 03:12 PM
Is this guy a ST pick?

Or are we looking at him as a slot guy?

pbat488
04-24-2010, 03:12 PM
Unforgivable?

Back away from the hyperbole keyboard....it's a 7th round pick.

http://media.ebaumsworld.com/picture/Shrooms/unforgiveable.JPG

Dan B.
04-24-2010, 03:12 PM
Is this the TE that ran a 4.40 40? Interesting picks with the last two.

TexCanada
04-24-2010, 03:12 PM
We just drafted James Casey 2.0.

isn't this 3.0? I thought we got 2.0 earlier this draft

Wolf
04-24-2010, 03:12 PM
LMAO.. I think it is just my POV but boy it seems that they DO NOT like talking about the Texans much


either a commercial or like now .. rich called an audible and they are talking about Blount

HouSportsWriter
04-24-2010, 03:12 PM
i want to bring in blont as a undrafted free agent

The Pencil Neck
04-24-2010, 03:13 PM
Chavous said he was trying out as a WR at the Senior Bowl.

LikeMike
04-24-2010, 03:13 PM
So what do you guys think, how many TEs will we pick up as UFA?

Well it seems like one of those 2TEs might end up as FB, the other as HB in short yardage situations... but with guys like Warren still on the board I don`t understand this pick.

But really, you can`t argue much about a 7th round pick that is clearly one of the best players available...

kiwitexansfan
04-24-2010, 03:13 PM
:facepalm:i cant wait to see this new 5 tight end set that kubes is working on

I tell you, Dickerson and Casey can line up outside, Daniels and Graham tight.

That is some real run blocking ability without sacrificing ability to catch.

TheRealJoker
04-24-2010, 03:13 PM
I can't help but wonder how a guy with his measurables falls to the seventh round... What does the tape show?

Maddict5
04-24-2010, 03:13 PM
totally not a need at this stage but great value pick there

JB
04-24-2010, 03:13 PM
isn't this 3.0? I thought we got 2.0 earlier this draft

No, that was OD 2.0

Mailman
04-24-2010, 03:14 PM
If you calm down enough to simply read his profile, you'll realize that the Texans are certainly drafting him because they think he's the best athlete left on the board and will give them versatility. They are always looking for guys like this to contribute on special teams.

Pocky
04-24-2010, 03:14 PM
wtfffffffffffffffffffffffffff te!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! why not legernat blont!

Dey turk urd jerbssss!???!?!?

Maybe the Texans view him as a WR; after all, he is 220lbs, 6'1, and runs a 4.40. Not to mention playing the WR position in the Senior Bowl practices/game.

TexCanada
04-24-2010, 03:14 PM
I like these versatile guys in the late stages of the draft. Some of these guys are just pure athletes that haven't found their niche yet. I'm not saying that they will necessarily work out, but its worth a shot for a 7th rounder.

Thorn
04-24-2010, 03:15 PM
Just got back. Another TE, LOL. He seems a good player for a 7th round pick though.

dalemurphy
04-24-2010, 03:16 PM
I like these versatile guys in the late stages of the draft. Some of these guys are just pure athletes that haven't found their niche yet. I'm not saying that they will necessarily work out, but its worth a shot for a 7th rounder.

Perhaps he's versatile enought to play FS? Apparently he played some LB in college. If he ran a 4.40 and can jump 3.5 feet in the air, then maybe he can play a little centerfield?

JB
04-24-2010, 03:17 PM
Dey turk urd jerbssss!???!?!?

Maybe the Texans view him as a WR; after all, he is 220lbs, 6'1, and runs a 4.40. Not to mention playing the WR position in the Senior Bowl practices/game.

6'4" 226lbs 4.4

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2010/profiles/dorin-dickerson?id=497222

rmartin65
04-24-2010, 03:18 PM
Unforgivable?

Back away from the hyperbole keyboard....it's a 7th round pick.

No, it is. 7th rounders are for depth. Not drafting a player that will never see the field. We have 7 players (OD, Leach, Dreeson, Hill, Casey, Graham and Dickerson) to fill the FB and TE spots. Where are we going to cut to fit all these guys in?

LikeMike
04-24-2010, 03:20 PM
I can smell the end of Owen Daniels in Houston...

dalemurphy
04-24-2010, 03:20 PM
No, it is. 7th rounders are for depth. Not drafting a player that will never see the field. We have 7 players (OD, Leach, Dreeson, Hill, Casey, Graham and Dickerson) to fill the FB and TE spots. Where are we going to cut to fit all these guys in?

Easy, we just have a 53 man roster with only 2 safeties on it. No problem! Safeties aren't really important anyway. That will open up two roste spots!

dalemurphy
04-24-2010, 03:21 PM
I can smell the end of Owen Daniels in Houston...

What if there is a trade in the works? unlikely, but possible.

Jackie Chiles
04-24-2010, 03:21 PM
Perhaps he's versatile enought to play FS? Apparently he played some LB in college. If he ran a 4.40 and can jump 3.5 feet in the air, then maybe he can play a little centerfield?

Would not be surprised to see them give him a shot at WLB. FB as well and ST monster. Football player.

mariowillshine15
04-24-2010, 03:22 PM
Watching him on tape on ESPN he runs like a WR. Sorta like a smaller Vernon Davis.

I love the pick.

Maddict5
04-24-2010, 03:22 PM
I dont care if he was BPA. Another freaking TE? What are we trying to do, field a team of TEs? This is asinine. I came to terms with the other one. But this is unforgivable.


Mike Mayock, NFL Network
Here's a few of the recent picks that have caught my eye:

Denver drafted one of my favorite players in all of college football, Syd'quan Thompson. He's one of the most physical cornerbacks I've watched on tape. He's got quick fit, he's a tough kid, and he competes on every single snap of every single game. The problem is that you can't run 4.7 or 4.75 at his size and expect the NFL to draft you high. He will compete for a roster spot because of his intangibles and his toughness. An old-time GM once told me that short and slow is bad for a CB.

After that, with the very next pick the Rams took George Selvie from South Florida. He had a huge sophomore season followed by injuries and the arrival of Jason Pierre-Paul this season. His stock fell, but he's a tough and competitive kid who can get after the QB.

After Selvie, the Texans took Dorin Dickerson, who I had given a second-round grade to. He's an undersized H-back with explosive skills. He caught 49 passes for Pitt this season, 10 of which went for TDs. I knew my evaluation of him was too optimistic, but I don't understand why he fell all the way to the seventh round. He's an athletic mismatch, and I think the Texans got a steal.

rmartin65
04-24-2010, 03:25 PM
Mike Mayock, NFL Network
Here's a few of the recent picks that have caught my eye:

Denver drafted one of my favorite players in all of college football, Syd'quan Thompson. He's one of the most physical cornerbacks I've watched on tape. He's got quick fit, he's a tough kid, and he competes on every single snap of every single game. The problem is that you can't run 4.7 or 4.75 at his size and expect the NFL to draft you high. He will compete for a roster spot because of his intangibles and his toughness. An old-time GM once told me that short and slow is bad for a CB.

After that, with the very next pick the Rams took George Selvie from South Florida. He had a huge sophomore season followed by injuries and the arrival of Jason Pierre-Paul this season. His stock fell, but he's a tough and competitive kid who can get after the QB.

After Selvie, the Texans took Dorin Dickerson, who I had given a second-round grade to. He's an undersized H-back with explosive skills. He caught 49 passes for Pitt this season, 10 of which went for TDs. I knew my evaluation of him was too optimistic, but I don't understand why he fell all the way to the seventh round. He's an athletic mismatch, and I think the Texans got a steal.

Right, he is a hell of an athlete. But why did we take a TE in the 4th? There are only so many roster spots for the position. I understand BPA, but we have so many talented players now that people are not going to get the ball.

Porky
04-24-2010, 03:25 PM
I actually like the pick a lot. LOL. He's not a true TE so relax people. He could potentially play TE, HB, FB or WR. Much like the last pick, speed to burn and a terrific athlete. I thought he was a mid round pick, maybe in the 4th. Great value as a 7th. Boom or bust type - not in relation to where he was picked as much as just a guy who either isn't going to find a home position and could be gone quickly or could really develop and be a major contributor. I like these types of "athletes with trememdous upside" picks late in the draft rather than drafting for someone you think might be limited physically and hoping they hang on to back up somewhere.

LonerATO
04-24-2010, 03:25 PM
What if there is a trade in the works? unlikely, but possible.

I thought with the drafting of Graham and the fact that OD has yet to get a deal could mean that he could be traded for a FS or DT. I thought the current TE's were fine and this team had other needs, but who knows.

El Tejano
04-24-2010, 03:26 PM
I'm cool with the other TE because of the fact that it looks like a BPA pick. A 6th rounder isn't going to have much of a chance to get on the team but he may be a situational type player. I don't believe the TEs say anything about OD but I think it says much about the other ones on the roster. Dreesen, although good, wasn't too productive and had surgery. Hill had surgery. The team may have felt that since the TE we selected last year (his name escapes me right now) has now learned the TE position and we can now put him in the backup FB/HB position now and use him for what we selected him for - to be the versatile pick we liked.

JB
04-24-2010, 03:26 PM
Right, he is a hell of an athlete. But why did we take a TE in the 4th? There are only so many roster spots for the position. I understand BPA, but we have so many talented players now that people are not going to get the ball.

And could you ever say that about the Texans before?

Dan B.
04-24-2010, 03:26 PM
I actually like the pick a lot. LOL. He's not a true TE so relax people. He could potentially play TE, HB, FB or WR. Much like the last pick, speed to burn and a terrific athlete. I thought he was a mid round pick, maybe in the 4th. Great value as a 7th. Boom or bust type - not in relation to where he was picked as much as just a guy who either isn't going to find a home position and could be gone quickly or could really develop and be a major contributor. I like these types of "athletes with trememdous upside" picks late in the draft rather than drafting for someone you think might be limited physically and hoping they hang on to back up somewhere.

I like taking these types of chances in the 6th or 7th, not the 3rd (JJ anyone?)

TexanBacker93
04-24-2010, 03:27 PM
Perhaps he's versatile enought to play FS? Apparently he played some LB in college. If he ran a 4.40 and can jump 3.5 feet in the air, then maybe he can play a little centerfield?

I like the way you are thinking. A couple inches taller than Earl Thomas and Eric Berry, but faster.

TheRealJoker
04-24-2010, 03:28 PM
Easy, we just have a 53 man roster with only 2 safeties on it. No problem! Safeties aren't really important anyway. That will open up two roste spots!

Do we really even need 2?

;)

El Tejano
04-24-2010, 03:28 PM
Right, he is a hell of an athlete. But why did we take a TE in the 4th? There are only so many roster spots for the position. I understand BPA, but we have so many talented players now that people are not going to get the ball.

Matt's pretty good at distributing the ball, Andre just wants to win. If he's open, he'll get the ball.

TexanBacker93
04-24-2010, 03:29 PM
Right, he is a hell of an athlete. But why did we take a TE in the 4th? There are only so many roster spots for the position. I understand BPA, but we have so many talented players now that people are not going to get the ball.

New rule put in place this season is a team can have extra roster spots, but they have to carry at least 10 TEs to get them.

One thing this administration understands that the previous one didn't is that you have to give your QB some weapons.

The Pencil Neck
04-24-2010, 03:29 PM
Right, he is a hell of an athlete. But why did we take a TE in the 4th? There are only so many roster spots for the position. I understand BPA, but we have so many talented players now that people are not going to get the ball.

This guy takes Glenn Martinez' spot as a WR/ST player.

How about that? Does that make it easier to swallow?

rmartin65
04-24-2010, 03:29 PM
And could you ever say that about the Texans before?

No, but it is a problem now. Especially when you consider the holes in the middle of both lines (D and O).

JB
04-24-2010, 03:33 PM
Perhaps they are planning to trade OD & DA for Haynesworth

rmartin65
04-24-2010, 03:33 PM
This guy takes Glenn Martinez' spot as a WR/ST player.

How about that? Does that make it easier to swallow?

Damn, that is the second time you have calmed me down. This is spooky. If this happens, I am cool with it. Davis gets cut, Holliday takes return duties.

WR- Johnson, Jones, Walter, Anderson, Holliday, Dickerson

TE- OD, Dreeson, Hill, Graham

FB- Leach, Casey

I could live with it. I still thing one of the picks should have been at another position, but I could live with it.

LonerATO
04-24-2010, 03:36 PM
nvm Kyle Kennedy is a tool

Pocky
04-24-2010, 03:41 PM
6'4" 226lbs 4.4

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2010/profiles/dorin-dickerson?id=497222

6'1 3/8 (http://www.draftcountdown.com/ScoutingReports/TE/Dorin-Dickerson.php)

The Pencil Neck
04-24-2010, 03:41 PM
Damn, that is the second time you have calmed me down. This is spooky. If this happens, I am cool with it. Davis gets cut, Holliday takes return duties.

WR- Johnson, Jones, Walter, Anderson, Holliday, Dickerson

TE- OD, Dreeson, Hill, Graham

FB- Leach, Casey

I could live with it. I still thing one of the picks should have been at another position, but I could live with it.

Also, we don't know about Hill's health. We've got Dickerson and Casey who can cover two spots.

You line up with Dickerson in the slot, Casey at FB, and OD at TE. Then you add AJ and KW. Damn. Who you gonna cover?

texasguy346
04-24-2010, 03:42 PM
The Post Draft press conference is getting ready to start.

link (http://www.houstontexans.com/tv/index.asp?mm_file_id=4067&play_clip=y)

kiwitexansfan
04-24-2010, 03:43 PM
6'1 3/8 (http://www.draftcountdown.com/ScoutingReports/TE/Dorin-Dickerson.php)

6'4" is when he is wearing his stilletos.

texasguy346
04-24-2010, 03:43 PM
Right, he is a hell of an athlete. But why did we take a TE in the 4th? There are only so many roster spots for the position. I understand BPA, but we have so many talented players now that people are not going to get the ball.

Given his size and speed I think he's going to be moved to WR and play in the slot. We'll see though.

texasguy346
04-24-2010, 03:46 PM
Kubiak just said that they'll play Dickerson as a WR.

"Line him up behind Andre and let him learn from the best" - Kubiak

kiwitexansfan
04-24-2010, 03:48 PM
Kubiak just said that they'll play Dickerson as a WR.

"Line him up behind Andre and let him learn from the best" - Kubiak

Well they do like their WRs to be able to block and who can block better than an ex-TE?

rmartin65
04-24-2010, 03:50 PM
Damn it, I wanted Owens. Stupid Eagles...

utahmark
04-24-2010, 03:50 PM
OK.

We should be able to run some really nice 3 TE sets this year.

we could run some 5 te sets if we want.

kiwitexansfan
04-24-2010, 03:52 PM
Damn it, I wanted Owens. Stupid Eagles...

Yeah, those Eagles have been banging that DL this draft.

ObsiWan
04-24-2010, 04:08 PM
What's up with these TE's?

because most of the current guys have injury questions
O.D.
Hill
Dreesen
and Casey isn't a true TE