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76Texan
04-23-2010, 01:47 PM
Wk. 1 Kareem vs. VTech

Tyrod Taylor is a dual threat QB, averaging over 5.5 yd/carries,
but his passing game is not among the top tier.

In general, Brent Musburger, the announcer summed it up best:
Jackson was on the receivers like a blanket.
A very clean game in which he did everything right.
Taylor had to look elsewhere, thus taking him longer to find the receivers,
resulting in incompletions.
He broke off one pass.
He mirrors the receivers well, understands how to use the sideline.
Sometimes too efficient for his own good
(Almost pulls in an INT, but since the QB had to throw it to the outside,
Kareem just did not have enough room, especially with the WR there.)
Kareem works hard to fight off the blockers
to try to get to the runners and other receivers.
He is successful in this task more often than any receivers
I've seen this year and last.
He would not back down from any receiver or TE or even lineman.
His hand techniques are good in both the run and pass.
He did not record any tackle in this game, but he set the edge well.

He commands different approach in press coverage.
He changes up his stance from time to time.
Sometimes he would jam the receiver.
Sometimes he would backpedal.
Sometimes he would turn and run.
Sometimes he would do the shuffle.
Sometimes he plays up but gets back quickly.
Sometimes he plays off but comes up at the last moment.
Due to these variations, he's able to hide his intention well.
He's a good candidate to get off the receiver to come in on the corner blitz,
or to contain the run.
With a quick fist step and burst, he can catch the LT in surprise.
And he's plenty strong and physical to bull rush a blocking back.
The results would show in later games.
This was only the first game of the season
and he appeared to be ready for the next level already.
And he didn't even play defense in high school.

For all these reasons, the runners mostly go in other directions.
In the second half, the QB barely looked his way.
This explains the lack of stats on his part.

As with any DB that I have seen, he does have bad tapes.
(More game review coming, anybody wants to help?)
That's one of the reasons why I had him in very early in the second.
The other is that I only went with his 4.48 speed.
I wasn't aware that he had been clocked as low as 4.41

If he can run between 4.41 and 4.48, I don't think this pick is a risk at all.

I'm about to finish the Ark game, and will get to the Tenn game next

El Tejano
04-23-2010, 01:57 PM
Wk. 1 Kareem vs. VTech

Tyrod Taylor is a dual threat QB, averaging over 5.5 yd/carries,
but his passing game is not among the top tier.

In general, Brent Musburger, the announcer summed it up best:
Jackson was on the receivers like a blanket.
A very clean game in which he did everything right.
Taylor had to look elsewhere, thus taking him longer to find the receivers,
resulting in incompletions.
He broke off one pass.
He mirrors the receivers well, understands how to use the sideline.
Sometimes too efficient for his own good
(Almost pulls in an INT, but since the QB had to throw it to the outside,
Kareem just did not have enough room, especially with the WR there.)
Kareem works hard to fight off the blockers
to try to get to the runners and other receivers.
He is successful in this task more often than any receivers
I've seen this year and last.
He would not back down from any receiver or TE or even lineman.
His hand techniques are good in both the run and pass.
He did not record any tackle in this game, but he set the edge well.

He commands different approach in press coverage.
He changes up his stance from time to time.
Sometimes he would jam the receiver.
Sometimes he would backpedal.
Sometimes he would turn and run.
Sometimes he would do the shuffle.
Sometimes he plays up but gets back quickly.
Sometimes he plays off but comes up at the last moment.
Due to these variations, he's able to hide his intention well.
He's a good candidate to get off the receiver to come in on the corner blitz,
or to contain the run.
With a quick fist step and burst, he can catch the LT in surprise.
And he's plenty strong and physical to bull rush a blocking back.
The results would show in later games.
This was only the first game of the season
and he appeared to be ready for the next level already.
And he didn't even play defense in high school.

For all these reasons, the runners mostly go in other directions.
In the second half, the QB barely looked his way.
This explains the lack of stats on his part.

As with any DB that I have seen, he does have bad tapes.
(More game review coming, anybody wants to help?)
That's one of the reasons why I had him in very early in the second.
The other is that I only went with his 4.48 speed.
I wasn't aware that he had been clocked as low as 4.41

If he can run between 4.41 and 4.48, I don't think this pick is a risk at all.

I'm about to finish the Ark game, and will get to the Tenn game next

Hey, did you just describe a "lock down" corner?

kiwitexansfan
04-23-2010, 02:00 PM
Really appreciate the effort 76

Hardcore Texan
04-23-2010, 02:14 PM
How are you getting these games to watch?

76Texan
04-23-2010, 02:23 PM
How are you getting these games to watch?
http://www.tenyardtorrents.com

You just need to register and spend time to read the instructions.

76Texan
04-23-2010, 02:32 PM
Hey, did you just describe a "lock down" corner?

In this particular game, yes!

76Texan
04-23-2010, 02:33 PM
Really appreciate the effort 76
Thanks! I really enjoy doing it!

gtexan02
04-23-2010, 03:22 PM
Was reading his article, and found this interesting:


Seattle picked cornerback Antoine Cason of Arizona at No. 27 in 2008 and signed him to a five-year contract worth $12 million.

A year ago, Vontae Davis of Illinois went to Miami at No. 25 and got $13.3 million for five years with $7.35 guaranteed. Cornerback Alphonso Smith went fifth in the second round and got $4.93 million for four years with a $2.15 million signing bonus.



Read more: http://www.macon.com/2010/04/22/1102654/chasing-a-dream-westside-product.html#ixzz0lx8jehet


We'll probably have to pony up a little more since its an uncapped year and we picked him at 20 instead of mid 20s, but good jumping off points

http://www.macon.com/2010/04/22/1102654/chasing-a-dream-westside-product.html

Brisco_County
04-23-2010, 03:38 PM
Thanks for doing this. This is the kind of substance I look for on these boards.

MFG16
04-23-2010, 03:43 PM
Was reading his article, and found this interesting:



We'll probably have to pony up a little more since its an uncapped year and we picked him at 20 instead of mid 20s, but good jumping off points

http://www.macon.com/2010/04/22/1102654/chasing-a-dream-westside-product.html

Antione Cason was drafted by the Chargers not the Seahawks..i woulnd't trust that article.

badboy
04-23-2010, 03:44 PM
Should be a little less than $15million for 5 years which is his first season but if any good at all over the five years becomes a very good deal for team.

HOU-TEX
04-23-2010, 03:55 PM
Likely half of what we would've had to pay Dunta. Let's hope he ends up to be one of our CB's for several years to come.

76Texan
04-23-2010, 05:22 PM
Thanks for doing this. This is the kind of substance I look for on these boards.
Thx!
There are lotsa contributors on this board, especially the jokers who make the day lighter!

76Texan
04-23-2010, 05:26 PM
Week 4 - Kareem vs. Arkansas, one of the top passing team in the country.
The Hogs led the SEC in passing with a very deep receiving corp
and a capable QB.
QB Ryan Mallett is a strong candidate for the NFL in the near future.

Stats: 2 tackles, 3 assists, 2 pass breakups.

1. Jams receiver at the LOS and keeps in check, shows good hand technique.
2. Reads the run well and comes up quickly into the backfield;
even though he gets shoved off by the RB (not too badly and he has good angle),
able to get RB to run backward then horizontally 4-5 yd behind LOS,
allowing teammate to clean up for a 3yd loss.
3. Mirrors receivers well on two plays;
forcing the QB to go short on one, resulting in an incompletion.
4. Works hard trying to get off blocks on running plays,
setting the edge on one forcing runner to go wide east-west.
5. Disguises/shows a blitz well, bursting off very quickly on the snap count,
causing movement by the LT for a false start penalty.
6. Tight coverage on a pass play in press-man forcing the receiver to the sideline;
QB had to throw the ball to the outside and therefore incomplete.
7. Gets off receiver and throws his body into the pile on a running play.
8. Would change his stance here and there before the snap,
not tipping the receiver whether he's in press coverage or playing off-man.
9. Locks step with receiver on the slant route,
knowing the point where his man would try to make his cut
and adjust accordingly. Well done.
10. Allowing a first down on 3rd and 6; possibly a bait.
He was looking at the QB the whole time and started shuffling away from receiver,
inviting the throw; at the start he did not attempt wholeheartedly to cover the WR tightly.
The safety came right up and laid a hit on the receiver sending him to the sideline.
A little sooner on the safety's part and there would have been a good chance to jarr the ball loose.
The play started on the Ark 24 yd line so it's as good as any time for a trap.
(20 yd gain).
10. Turns and runs in press man but gets back up quickly
on a come-backer (5yd supposedly if completed.)
WR knew he was gonna to be hit and dropped the ball.
11. First bad tape here. Gets burned on a fade route for a TD.
looks like he guessed a different play and maybe
he was a little overconfident that he can make up for it.
The QB made a good throw and Kareem just couldn't recover.
(Manning would love this, grr!
This one looks like a classic Manning-Harrison fade route.)
12. Saves a TD by making the tackle on a WR not under his watch.
13. Gets off the block and join in on a 4yd TFL.
14. Allows a short comebacker, which is not something too bad.
15. Makes a great diving play 'almost and oh so close' to an INT;
the WR puts a hand in there and barely pokes the ball out.
16. Another tackle in run support forcing a punt.
17. Tight coverage on a pass play.

Bama won 35-7 and Kareem gave up the only TD, haha!
Seriously folks, I have seen worse tapes from Haden and Earl Thomas.
Next up, I'm going to go with the OleMiss game in week 6.
(I'm skipping some of the lesser competitions!)

Jackie Chiles
04-23-2010, 05:29 PM
Bama won 35-7 and Kareem gave up the only TD, haha! Seriously folks, I have seen worse tapes from Haden and Earl Thomas.
Next up, I'm going to go with the OleMiss game in week 6.
(I'm skipping some of the lesser competitions!)

So far so good then I assume? Two games in how do you feel about the pick?

Ole Miss Texan
04-23-2010, 05:33 PM
Bama won 35-7 and Kareem gave up the only TD, haha!
Seriously folks, I have seen worse tapes from Haden and Earl Thomas.
Next up, I'm going to go with the OleMiss game in week 6.
(I'm skipping some of the lesser competitions!)


I'll save you the time.
Snead locks in on Shay Hodge from the snap... Jackson reads the QB... jumps the pass and Pick 6. :gun:

LOL

76Texan
04-23-2010, 05:39 PM
So far so good then I assume? Two games in how do you feel about the pick?

Oh, I've seen many more games than 2.
I watched about 9 Bama game the last 3 years.

Like I said, I would have put Kareem in the first round if I knew he can run faster than the 4.48 that was posted.
(And also, I'm one who is careful. Most of the time I would give some player a lower grade. I would end up having only like some 20 players in the first round, haha!)

The review of the OleMiss game will be a fun one to read.
I'm already done with most of it.
Hopefully I can post it tonight.

I also have many of the notes from the Tenn game as well.

76Texan
04-23-2010, 05:39 PM
i'll save you the time.
Snead locks in on shay hodge from the snap... Jackson reads the qb... Jumps the pass and pick 6. :gun:

Lol
hahaha!

gary
04-23-2010, 05:42 PM
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5goIAJHBe91KGJU2wlrUGyc4hNXKQD9F908EO0

76Texan
04-23-2010, 05:48 PM
He's confident, isn't he, Gary?!

gary
04-23-2010, 05:50 PM
I love his attiude already.

76Texan
04-23-2010, 05:52 PM
When you meet him, make sure he knows that Manning-Harrison fade route!

gary
04-23-2010, 05:54 PM
I will. By the way, have you moved yet?

76Texan
04-23-2010, 07:45 PM
Week 6 - Kareem vs. Ole Miss

QB Snead was highly regarded out of HS with a very strong arm,
but for some reasons had dissapointed many with his inconsistency.
Transferred out of UT as McCoy came in.
I've heard a lot of hypes about him the previous year.
Before the season start, some even sai that he will be among the top draftees.
I didn't buy it of course.

Shay Hodge is not a very fast receiver but he's more than capable (70 catches).
And then they have McCluster out of the backfield (40 catches avg. over 12yd.)

1. Continues to show that he can turn and run with receivers.
He can turn in or out (left or right) either way w/smooth hips.

2. Covers Hodge and pins him to the sideline.
Hodge has to work to prevent an INT.

3. Reads the run quickly and gets off the receiver to join in the run stop
limiting the runner to less than 2yds.

4. Good coverage on his man with good angle so he can see the QB,
forcing Snead to throw an incomplete pass to the hot RB out of the backfield.

5. Plays off-man in good coverage forcing Snead to,
basically, throw the ball into the ground.

6. Feels the attempted cut block from the WR and simply jumps over it
without even looking.

7. Good tight coverage (announcer's comment) and almost breaks off a slant pass (8yds), timing his jump well.

8. Continues to blanket any receiver hecovers throughout the game
whether the ball is thrown his way or not; always works to get off the block.

9. Quickly gets off his man from back deep to cut down McCluster in the open field.

10. When playing off-man, pays attention to the other side of the field,
ready to support as the extra safety.

11. From the 9yd line, excellent coverage on a fade route;
Snead basically throws the ball high and way out of bound.

12. Shows the ability to stop quickly on a short curl route.

13. OleMiss threatens the redzone again. Ball at the 10.
Kareem with excellent coverage on another fade route in the endzone,
taking good angle so he can see the ball.

14. Plays 5yd off-man and backpedaling.
Reads the QB and the receiver for a slant.
Jumps ahead of the play, intercepts the ball at the 5
and returns it 95yd for a TD.
(Announcer: "That's a DB who has done his homework...
He ran that route better than Shay Hodge (the receiver)".

15. On 3-13, gets off the receiver quickly to cut down the QB
in the open field stopping him 3yd shy of the first down.

16. Blocked by a receiver and a lineman downfield and still able to disengage from both, taking the runner (off a highly successfull screen pass) out of bound, saving yet another TD.

17. Shows great awareness switching from his man to the slot receiver;
breaks off another slant pass, timing it exceptionally well.

Bama won 22-3 and Kareem saved 3 TDs and even scored one for his team.
Now, that's a shutdown corner and a difference maker, no doubt about it.

The only question remains:
Can he do it at the next level?

Esoom
04-24-2010, 02:30 AM
This pick is looking better and better with each film review you post. I'm very excited about seeing this guy play in the NFL.

Goatcheese
04-24-2010, 03:37 AM
Scouts Inc 1-2nd round CB Grades

7th 93 Joe Haden
20th 93 Kareem Jackson
27th 90 Devin McCourty
29th 92 Kyle Wilson
32nd 85 Patrick Robinson
34th 87 Chris Cook
50th 69 Javier Arenas

So, (atleast according to one scouting service) we got a corner just as good as Joe Haden 13 picks later.

m5kwatts
04-24-2010, 03:44 AM
Scouts Inc 1-2nd round CB Grades

7th 93 Joe Haden
20th 93 Kareem Jackson
27th 90 Devin McCourty
29th 92 Kyle Wilson
32nd 85 Patrick Robinson
34th 87 Chris Cook
50th 69 Javier Arenas

So, (atleast according to one scouting service) we got a corner just as good as Joe Haden 13 picks later.

Unfortunately we'll have to wait until Haden's deal is signed before they can even begin discussion for KJ. Hopefully Cleveland gets his deal done quickly.

HJam72
04-24-2010, 10:31 AM
Wk. 1 Kareem vs. VTech


Sometimes he would jam the receiver.
Sometimes he would backpedal.
Sometimes he would turn and run.
Sometimes he would do the shuffle.
Sometimes he plays up but gets back quickly.
Sometimes he plays off but comes up at the last moment.
Due to these variations, he's able to hide his intention well.


Good... I like it when players are told to stay way back and backpedal, backpedal, backpedal....and they don't freaking listen. :) :bravo:

Crimson14Tide
04-25-2010, 11:37 PM
Ah, tenyardtorrents is one of the greatest things to ever grace the internets....pretty good analysis there, 76.

Texan_Bill
04-25-2010, 11:44 PM
Wk. 1 Kareem vs. VTech

Tyrod Taylor is a dual threat QB, averaging over 5.5 yd/carries,
but his passing game is not among the top tier.

In general, Brent Musburger, the announcer summed it up best:
Jackson was on the receivers like a blanket.
A very clean game in which he did everything right.
Taylor had to look elsewhere, thus taking him longer to find the receivers,
resulting in incompletions.
He broke off one pass.
He mirrors the receivers well, understands how to use the sideline.
Sometimes too efficient for his own good
(Almost pulls in an INT, but since the QB had to throw it to the outside,
Kareem just did not have enough room, especially with the WR there.)
Kareem works hard to fight off the blockers
to try to get to the runners and other receivers.
He is successful in this task more often than any receivers
I've seen this year and last.
He would not back down from any receiver or TE or even lineman.
His hand techniques are good in both the run and pass.
He did not record any tackle in this game, but he set the edge well.

He commands different approach in press coverage.
He changes up his stance from time to time.
Sometimes he would jam the receiver.
Sometimes he would backpedal.
Sometimes he would turn and run.
Sometimes he would do the shuffle.
Sometimes he plays up but gets back quickly.
Sometimes he plays off but comes up at the last moment.
Due to these variations, he's able to hide his intention well.
He's a good candidate to get off the receiver to come in on the corner blitz,
or to contain the run.
With a quick fist step and burst, he can catch the LT in surprise.
And he's plenty strong and physical to bull rush a blocking back.
The results would show in later games.
This was only the first game of the season
and he appeared to be ready for the next level already.
And he didn't even play defense in high school.

For all these reasons, the runners mostly go in other directions.
In the second half, the QB barely looked his way.
This explains the lack of stats on his part.

As with any DB that I have seen, he does have bad tapes.
(More game review coming, anybody wants to help?)
That's one of the reasons why I had him in very early in the second.
The other is that I only went with his 4.48 speed.
I wasn't aware that he had been clocked as low as 4.41

If he can run between 4.41 and 4.48, I don't think this pick is a risk at all.

I'm about to finish the Ark game, and will get to the Tenn game next

Thanks John!!! Awesome breakdown, but I've got two questions A) Are you back in Country? and B) How the hell does your wife let you pull off all this evaluation??? :D


Repped!

76Texan
04-26-2010, 01:24 PM
Week 8 - Kareem vs. Tenn
Jonathan Crompton is a good solid QB but not spectacular.
Tenn ha a couple of receivers that show promises.


1. Gets beat on a quick slant off a nice move by the WR for 14yds
(third play of the game, I think.)
2. Gets beat on a same slant again,
this time for 27yds against Hardesty who lined up at wide out.

It just looks like he wasn't ready at the start of this game.
Maybe he thought the QB wouldn't challenge him so early in the game.

3. Basically having a fight with the WR on a run play.
4. Good coverage on a fade route, taking the WR away from the play.
5. Reads the play well and almost gets an INT;
the ball just high over his fingertips.
6. Sets the edge and gest off the wide-out quickly to stop the slot receiver,
keeping him in bound and the clock running.
This forces Tenn into a missed 47yd FG try just before the half.

7. Gets off the Wide-out quickly to assist in the run stop for short yardage up the middle.
(ie., he had to cover a further distance than if the runner comes his way.)
8. Reads the run quickly and bulls into the pulling LG 4yd in the backfield,
and actually knocks the guy backward some. The runner has to cut back inside.
9. One of those CBs you can use to blitz off the edge since he has a great burst and first step.
10. Again, gets off the wideout quickly to come up and help stop the RB for a loss.
11. Solid coverage on a short 4yd quick pass.

12. Too much time (no pressure) and a clean pocket for the QB on the play action fake.
Jackson was forced to run deep with the WR and probably was leaning toward guarding the corner route as there was supposed to be safety help in the middle.
The receiver stopped quickly on the square-in instead (around 14yds).
A well-time pass was impossible to cover without help, I would think.
The Tides had played run and sent 8 men charging the line.
The middle was wide open. No LB support and the QB had a clear view.
Also, the lone safety had gone even deeper and to the other side of the field
to help the other CB and took a very bad angle on the way back.
This allowed the receiver to gain another 18yd down the other sideline.

It's not as good a play as a CB can have, but it should only have been a 20yd gain at most instead of 33yd as it was.

13. Fights off the receiver to assist in the run stop.
14. Just misses the QB on the corner blitz.
Wipes at the feet but the QB manages to keep his balance.
15. Tight coverage, forcing the QB to look elsewhere and finally dump the ball away.
16. Good coverage on a fade route.
17. Good coverage on the sideline forcing the QB to go elsewhere (incompletion).
18. Breaks off a slant pass with a good read and a good jump.

76Texan
04-26-2010, 01:27 PM
Thanks John!!! Awesome breakdown, but I've got two questions A) Are you back in Country? and B) How the hell does your wife let you pull off all this evaluation??? :D


Repped!

A. Yeah I'm back that's how I have the time.
B. This way she can keep me at home instead of spending time skiing in Colorado! :snowday:

76Texan
04-26-2010, 01:31 PM
Ah, tenyardtorrents is one of the greatest things to ever grace the internets....pretty good analysis there, 76.

I'm looking at a few of your guys.
How is Vlachos foot injury coming along?
He played extremely well last year at C.
#57 looks ready to have another good year, maybe a 1st or 2nd rd comes next draft.

Our RB and WR situations are pobably set (hopefully) so I scratched out some of your other players. (I had liked Julio Jones since the year before).

76Texan
04-27-2010, 06:52 PM
wk 5 vs. Kentucky
WR Cobb is a dual threat who takes the ball and run a lot.
WR Chris Matthews is 6'5

Kareem was hardly challenged, and he played like a lock-down corner again.

1qtr
1. Got off his man to assist in a run stop forcing a punt.

2. Possibly saved a TD run.
The right side of the line lost it badly;
the LBs also lost containment.
Kareem did all he could, taking the right angle to avoid the blocking WR to get back to the outside to seal the edge.
He got a stiff arm on the helmet, but managed to do more than enough to help the runner out of bound.
The safety was late both in recognition and recovery. That one could have gone yards.


3rd qtr 0:47
Broke up a long pass along the sideline.
Receiver pulled on his jersey shoulder and got away with it.
Jackson had inside position and a very good chance at an INT there.


4th qtr.

On 3rd and 1 at the goal line, his assignment was to play outside the LT and get penetration against the power formation.
He did it well and beat the blocking FB to the punch, penetrating 2yd into the backfield at the POA.
The Tides ( #41, #36, #32), however, lost outside containment badly as the RB cut to the sideline on the TD run.

On 3rd and 15, defended a long pass on the sideline extremely well.
Looked back to locate the ball; timed the jump and reached his hand right between
both those of the receiver as he tried to catch the ball.
No chance for a catch there.

With 1:27 to go and the Tides leading 38-20
Gave up a cheap 7yd pass on a little curl route.

The stats from the NCAA did not give Kareem 2 Pass Defended in this game,
probably ruling that the passes were out of bound.

The LSU game is next.
I have also rewatched these games: S. Carolina, Auburn, Florida (this year and last).

JB
04-27-2010, 07:09 PM
Thanks for the info and all the hard work! So, what is your impression so far?

76Texan
04-27-2010, 07:22 PM
He will soon become our #1 CB.

How he will handle the best in the NFL, nobody knows for sure.

But:
He doesn't make unthink-of mistake like Bennett.
He can locate the ball, something Reeves only learned later on in his career.
He's more adept at the outside than Quin or McCain.
He's as agressive as Dunta.
He tackles as good as if not better than those guys.

That should answer most if not all questions the fans might have.

D-Frank
04-27-2010, 08:01 PM
thanks 76 i really appreciate your work

76Texan
04-28-2010, 11:31 AM
thx D-Frank.

week 10 vs. LSU

3-4 QB up the middle for 3, tackled by Kareem.
Can't see what happened here (video is messed up),
but a CB stopping the run up the middle short of a first down is worth mentioning. This will show up again in another game.

3-12 Let Tolliver run back toward safety; looking for an INT,
but ball thrown right in middle of double coverage, nothing doing.
No chance for a catch.

1-10 at @LSU 20 - Played the slant to the inside and got beat;
WR shielded the ball well and made a nice move back to the outside after catching the ball.
41yd pass play. Safety played too high trying to be too aggressive on the slot receiver (covered by OLB)
and missed the tackle. Shoulda been at most a 20yd gain.
Kareem recovered (after slipping and falling,) came back to make the stop
along with LB McClain.
Too aggressive of a defensive call here (safety and CB both attacking the play).
But it was on the LSU 20yd line so it's understandable.

3-7 Good coverage, forcing the QB to pull up and run.

3-4 Good coverage, forcing QB to throw the ball away.

1-10 Got off his man quickly and cut off RB Scott for a one yd loss.

1-10 Scott ran up the middle, big hole.
Then #13 and #27 both missed the tackle; Kareem chased down the runner and saved a TD;
Arenas joined him immediately.

3-10 Good coverage (along with nickel back, and probably safety as well) taking away both receivers;
allowing #57 to sack the QB (a little over 2 secs.)

2-14 Good coverge along the sideline; QB threw the ball away.

Kareem had one bad play, but recovered.
It was a great move by the receiver at any level.
This also looks like an over-agressive defensive play called by the Tides.
But it was at the Tigers 20.
They had to punt the ball away a few plays later.

76Texan
04-28-2010, 04:56 PM
wk 7 vs. S. Car

Garcia is a Sophomore, but a very solid QB.
The Gamecoks has a couple of big receivers.
Jeffery 6'3-217 - This guy is going to be good. Caught 3 TDs vs Kentucky.
The Gamecoks spread the ball around so he's still under the radar.
Gurley 6'5-227
Also, Barnes is 6'4 and Moe is 6'1
If they can find some replacement O-linemen they could be a surprise next year.

1-10 Kareem played an 8-yd slant exceptional tight and was called for PI.
Kareem barely had one hand on the receiver, I don't think it affected the pass which he broke off.
You want your CB to play like this; how else are they going to break off the slant pass against a big receiver?
A little penalty for small yardage on an aggressive play is acceptable, I would think.

1-10 Started out playing the slant but recognize dquickly that the WR was going to block the LB on an end run.
He got back quickly to the outside, got in good postion, squared up, and took on the runner with a perfect form tackle.
4yd gain. Miles is a RB with 4:4 speed. If he gets past that block, he will be gone along the sideline.
The thing with Kareem is that he makes a lot of things look easy that I even overlooked them several times,
especially the first time.
We don't think of the implication of the play, how he saved a potential TD run like this one.

2-20 Good coverage, QB had to pull up and run

1-10 Got beat on a slant to Jeffery.
Both safeties were late to help in the middle.
51 yd gain.
No wait a minute!
The receiver pushed off of Kareem to get separation (a straight hand in the chest, no doubt about it)
That's clearly shoulda been offensive Pass Inteference.

1-10 Got off receiver to set the edge, taking on the pulling LG;
RB Miles had to cut back inside for a one yd loss

1-10 Jail break.
Kareem got off his man to shove the running QB out of bound.

1-10 Got off his man and delivered a big blow to a big TE (Saunders 6'5-280)

1-10 Got off his man and came in on a blitz.
He beat the blocking back to the inside and was held (no call).

3-10 Good coverage. QB pulled up and ran but was sacked for -5
Punt

2-2 Played back to help the nickel keeping an eye on the slot receiver.
Quick swing pass to the wide-out in the flat.
Jackson came up quickly, making sure he sealed the edge.
Receiver made a good cut inside, Kareem showed flex hips and good lateral movement
in making the tackle - 3yd gain.

3-20 Jammed the big receiver then located the ball and went in front for an INT along the sideline.
The 6'3 Jeffery had to play DB and broke off the pass up high.
(Announcer: "Stephen Garcia has to thank Jeffery..."
Punt

Tides led 20-6 with a couple of minutes left.

2-1 Good coverage; Garcia didn't dare to throw.
Sacked for -7 on the run. Second coverage sack of the game.

3-8 Garcia threw the fade to a place where only a good, tall receiver can catch: outside and high.
Great one handed catch by Jeffery. Only need one foot in bound in the NCAA.
Nothing any DB can do here.

2 and goal - Good coverage in the end zone, getting ready to jump the route for an INT.
Garcia knew better and went with the TE low in double coverage, incomplete.

3-goal - Good coverage; Garcia threw the ball away.

4-goal - Got off his man and almost got an INT over the big TE, showed good recognition skill.
Saved a TD there.

That's 3 consecutive redzone plays with excellent coverage.
Jackson definitely spent quality time in the film room and applies to the game very well.

He looks solid game after game after game,
and I promise you more tapes will show the same thing.

He had fewer bad tapes than any DB drafted the last two years.

The Pencil Neck
04-28-2010, 11:11 PM
Dude.

STOP.

You're getting me psyched up.

:fans:

JB
04-28-2010, 11:32 PM
Dude.

STOP.

You're getting me psyched up.

:fans:

Serious! He's got KJ sounding like ASO, Revis & Ronnie Lott rolled into one...:breakdance:

will742
04-29-2010, 03:06 AM
Just re-iterating what has already been said.. excellent work 76Texan, you help make this off-season go by just a little faster for the rest of us. Much appreciated!

+rep

thunderkyss
04-29-2010, 09:11 AM
He will soon become our #1 CB.

How he will handle the best in the NFL, nobody knows for sure.

But:
He doesn't make unthink-of mistake like Bennett.
He can locate the ball, something Reeves only learned later on in his career.
He's more adept at the outside than Quin or McCain.
He's as agressive as Dunta.
He tackles as good as if not better than those guys.

That should answer most if not all questions the fans might have.

I think you're doing a great job, and I'm enjoying reading your thread. However, somethings aren't adding up.

1) You're describing a big-time player playing for a big-time program, yet he was almost forgotten, if not for a great Combine performance. How can that be?

2) Again, we're talking about the National Championship team, I'm seeing a lot of mistakes by a lot of other guys, but our guy performing like a champ. :texflag: Not that I don't trust your analysis, but what are the odds?

3) Do you have roadrunner, or DSL? it takes forever for me to download a game with my DSL.

Again, Great job, great thread, & please don't take anything I said the wrong way.

Blake
04-29-2010, 09:15 AM
Rep. Thanks 76Texan.

Ole Miss Texan
04-29-2010, 10:37 AM
I think you're doing a great job, and I'm enjoying reading your thread. However, somethings aren't adding up.

1) You're describing a big-time player playing for a big-time program, yet he was almost forgotten, if not for a great Combine performance. How can that be?

2) Again, we're talking about the National Championship team, I'm seeing a lot of mistakes by a lot of other guys, but our guy performing like a champ. :texflag: Not that I don't trust your analysis, but what are the odds?

3) Do you have roadrunner, or DSL? it takes forever for me to download a game with my DSL.

Again, Great job, great thread, & please don't take anything I said the wrong way.

Some other things to consider. Whose to say he hasn't been highly regarded by the NFL scouts and teams for a while? His "draft stock" with Draft Fans was rising pretty rapidly nearing the draft.... People never differentiate 'draft stock' from the Draft Fans' perspective vs. what's really going on with Team Scouts and Front Offices (partly b/c its kept hush hush for obvious reasons).

But Joe Haden, Kareem Jackson, Devin McCourty, Kyle Wilson and Patrick Robinson (all 1st round picks) are different players. They fit different teams, different schemes, etc. I have a feeling a lot of NFL Scouts have had their eye on Jackson for a while and for the teams whose scheme he fit, I bet they've liked him a lot. He didn't just "jump up" all of a sudden in teams eyes... he's been there.

But you do raise a good point for us fans... why didn't we see it? Why did he go 'unnoticed'? My reasoning... rather rationalization is 3-Fold: (1) We watch TV and so often the Secondary is not shown until the WR makes a big play or the DB makes a stop... we don't see the play develop in viewing the DB's. (2) Fans take notice of big plays- good or bad. Jackson had 3 interceptions his freshman season and 1 each of his last two years. He wasn't seen making the big Taylor Mays hits... but what it sounds like he was doing is playing the game how a pro CB should. Fans don't like the "solid but unspectacular" type of player but coaches do. They eat up the guy that does what he's supposed to do, doesn't necessarily get noticed and forces the other team to punt. (3) Devin Hester, err I mean Javier Arenas. When you see Jackson play, he seems really really solid but fans want excitement- that's what TV wants, that's entertaining. Arenas is electric and one of the best return guys in the nation. That's who fans wanted to see, we wanted the big play, and thats who the announcers wanted to talk about and the cameras focused on.

beerlover
04-29-2010, 10:59 AM
Some other things to consider. Whose to say he hasn't been highly regarded by the NFL scouts and teams for a while? His "draft stock" with Draft Fans was rising pretty rapidly nearing the draft.... People never differentiate 'draft stock' from the Draft Fans' perspective vs. what's really going on with Team Scouts and Front Offices (partly b/c its kept hush hush for obvious reasons).

But Joe Haden, Kareem Jackson, Devin McCourty, Kyle Wilson and Patrick Robinson (all 1st round picks) are different players. They fit different teams, different schemes, etc. I have a feeling a lot of NFL Scouts have had their eye on Jackson for a while and for the teams whose scheme he fit, I bet they've liked him a lot. He didn't just "jump up" all of a sudden in teams eyes... he's been there.

But you do raise a good point for us fans... why didn't we see it? Why did he go 'unnoticed'? My reasoning... rather rationalization is 3-Fold: (1) We watch TV and so often the Secondary is not shown until the WR makes a big play or the DB makes a stop... we don't see the play develop in viewing the DB's. (2) Fans take notice of big plays- good or bad. Jackson had 3 interceptions his freshman season and 1 each of his last two years. He wasn't seen making the big Taylor Mays hits... but what it sounds like he was doing is playing the game how a pro CB should. Fans don't like the "solid but unspectacular" type of player but coaches do. They eat up the guy that does what he's supposed to do, doesn't necessarily get noticed and forces the other team to punt. (3) Devin Hester, err I mean Javier Arenas. When you see Jackson play, he seems really really solid but fans want excitement- that's what TV wants, that's entertaining. Arenas is electric and one of the best return guys in the nation. That's who fans wanted to see, we wanted the big play, and thats who the announcers wanted to talk about.

he snuck under my radar simply because the way he declared for the draft just inside the underclassman declaration window. can't really explain it he kinda waffled back & forth for two weeks leading up to his decision. also the Texans never showed a great deal of interest in him other than sitting in a mass interview session @ the combine with everyteam in attendance. The Texans never brought him to Relient for a personel workout or took him aside @ Alabama Pro-Day. The Texans worked behind the scenes like a clandestine covert operation not allowing anything or anyone to tip their hand.

the other point Ole Miss brings up is a good one too, about how different CB fit different schemes. This is the reason Haden wasn't on my radar, in hindsight maybe Kyle Wilson reminded them too much of Dunta Robinson (I know he did me) Patrick Robinson just wansn't physical enough & Devn McCourty (who I thought was their target) not as mentally ready to start right away. Kareem is a big, thick press-corner, very solid in run support with good enough feet & hips to hang on a receivers side, ran a sub 4.5 forty @ combine, being a three year starter, underclassman coming out of the SEC receiving excellent coaching & winning program tipped the scales in his favor.

76Texan
04-29-2010, 12:13 PM
OleMiss and Beerlover explain it very well, better than I think I would be able to.

I admit I was among those who underappreciated KJ a bit when I watch the Tides play. I was biased to a certain degree due to all the hypes, and with my own thinking that any secondary player for Bama is helped by the front 7, not to mention the fact that other players look more flashy.

But I still had Kareem among the DBs that I wanted for the Texans.

I've been thinking about it since after the draft, just as the comparison Kyle/Dunta was spot on, I was a little biased in the same way when I watched Wilson. But now I'm thinking, oh why did he fly to the ball looking so athletic (or with style, however one wants to describe it) and Jackson looks quite plain so often. Now I see that KJ beat his man to the punch (how Madden wants his player to play), and that's how it looks simple and plain.
But a DB (or any defender for that matter) has to work hard and also has to have the skill and athleticism to do that. Plus the football IQ and the pre-game preparation that it take.

And I was a little biased toward McCourty for the reason that he can play the tall receiver well and his 4.38 speed. And I wasn't aware that Rutgers actually ranked highly in sacks and TFLs.

In the meantime, for some reason, I thought KJ's top end speed is only 4.48
and that concerns me a bit. But obviously I like him enough to have him among the 3 CBs I'd like for the Texans to draft.

As long as fans don't expect him to be Superman, playing for all eleven guys on the field, KJ should become a very solid player for us.
Also, allow him the time to get acquainted with all these high-caliber receivers in the NFL as well as the rules. These guys will use their hands and arms and bodies to advantage, even cheat at times.

I hate to raise expectation, maybe I should bring everyboy back down to earth, lol.

76Texan
04-29-2010, 12:24 PM
I think you're doing a great job, and I'm enjoying reading your thread. However, somethings aren't adding up.

1) You're describing a big-time player playing for a big-time program, yet he was almost forgotten, if not for a great Combine performance. How can that be?



To answer this question, I will do the Miss. St. game.
Jackson is a man forgotten alright!

.........

The Bulldogs is more of an run-oriented team
They have a big receiver O'neal Wilder 6'5-215,
but the smaller guy Bumphis is more active and a speedy guy who almost returned a KO for a TD (but stepped out of bound)..

In this game, the QB is 9-17
Six passes went to the RB Dixon.
Two fo Dumphis (24 and 4 yd)
One to Wilder (12yd)

This game is a wash, I just wanted to see how Kareem does agaisnt a big RB.

Kareem tallied 4 solo tackles and 2 assists.

2-7 Got off his blocker to tackle Dumphis on the 24yd pass.
Dumphis had made a DB missed.

3-4 Got off his man and went into the backfield to limit Dixon to one yard tying up both of his feet.
Punt

3-6 Got off his blocker to tackle Dixon on an 18yd screen.
A LB 13 Corey had missed a tackle.
Took on Dixon in the open field and cut him down effectively.

The Bulldogs QB never even look at Jackson.
Even when they run to his side, they want a receiver to take him downfield as far as possible.
The only way Kareem can make a play was to go get it.
And so he did, ending up with 4 solos and 2 assists.
And he stopped the two longest pass plays that were not his primary responsibility.
(Not his responsibilty is probably more like it.)

How do one record a Pass Defended (let alone an INT) when the ball is never thrown your way?

Ole Miss Texan
04-29-2010, 02:21 PM
Nice...

Another thing being talked about is how he faced tough competition in the SEC. Typically the offenses in this conference aren't really known for their aerial attacks but more about rushing the ball. Look at the RB's he faced on a weekly basis during his 3 years of starting: Knowshon Moreno, Darren McFadden, Felix Jones, Ben Tate, Dexter McCluster, Montario Hardesty, Anthony Dixon, Charles Scott, Jacob Hester, etc.

Obviously a CB's main responsibility is to cover WR's but in the NFL and particularly on the Texans, they're asked to support the run as well. Sounds like he's been able to do that fairly well against tough run-happy teams - and just as importantly, he's been able to stay healthy and not miss any games.

76Texan
04-29-2010, 05:57 PM
Alright, now if I may ask a question, what do you folks expect your RCB to be able to do on a reverse.

Standard formation pro-offense and 4-3 base defense.

dalemurphy
04-29-2010, 06:03 PM
Alright, now if I may ask a question, what do you folks expect your RCB to be able to do on a reverse.

Standard formation pro-offense and 4-3 base defense.

The opposite of what Dunta did in Buffalo... He needs to contain the play and then try and make the tackle.

Ole Miss Texan
04-29-2010, 06:04 PM
Alright, now if I may ask a question, what do you folks expect your RCB to be able to do on a reverse.

Standard formation pro-offense and 4-3 base defense.

1. If his guy is receiving the ball, I'd want him to make sure it's not a double reverse and if it was, contain his end and tackle for a loss. (wr running towards him)

2. If his guy is receiving the ball, I'd like him to track him down either from behind the line of scrimmage but more likely for a small gain and make the tackle on the opposite side of the field. (wr running away)

3. If his guy is not receiving the ball, I'd like him to get off the block, get in the backfield and tackle the other WR for a loss. (wr running towards him)

In all cases, wrap up the WR, force the fumble, recover the ball and run it in for a TD. ;)

76Texan
04-29-2010, 06:06 PM
Nice...

Another thing being talked about is how he faced tough competition in the SEC. Typically the offenses in this conference aren't really known for their aerial attacks but more about rushing the ball. Look at the RB's he faced on a weekly basis during his 3 years of starting: Knowshon Moreno, Darren McFadden, Felix Jones, Ben Tate, Dexter McCluster, Montario Hardesty, Anthony Dixon, Charles Scott, Jacob Hester, etc.

Obviously a CB's main responsibility is to cover WR's but in the NFL and particularly on the Texans, they're asked to support the run as well. Sounds like he's been able to do that fairly well against tough run-happy teams - and just as importantly, he's been able to stay healthy and not miss any games.
You are partially right there OleMiss.

But it's not that the SEC were not effecitve in the passing attack.
It's that their passing Defense were very good.

Check out the stats at ncaa.org
The SEC were good in pretty much everything.

As I promised I want to bring folks back down to earth, I also promise that I haven't presented everything KJ can do.

By the time I'm good and done with this thread, the scout(s) who was responsible for this draft should at least deserve some recognition... Even though it's fairly obvious if one does all his homework, that this one was a no-brainer for a team who needs a starting CB.

76Texan
04-29-2010, 06:16 PM
1. If his guy is receiving the ball, I'd want him to make sure it's not a double reverse and if it was, contain his end and tackle for a loss. (wr running towards him)

2. If his guy is receiving the ball, I'd like him to track him down either from behind the line of scrimmage but more likely for a small gain and make the tackle on the opposite side of the field. (wr running away)

3. If his guy is not receiving the ball, I'd like him to get off the block, get in the backfield and tackle the other WR for a loss. (wr running towards him)

In all cases, wrap up the WR, force the fumble, recover the ball and run it in for a TD. ;)
OK let me rephrase this.

His guy does not receive the ball, but instead try to take him deep.

And it doesn't matter what offensive formation it was.
The receiver will try to take the RCB (KJ) deep.

The TE is on the strong side, away from the RCB.

76Texan
04-29-2010, 06:30 PM
Let's take an example, and see how the RCB did.
In this one, the WR didn't go long, but the DB played back already.
The guy you saw coming up at first is a safety.

Just under 8 mins to play in the fourth.
After the Ben tate's TD run.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBxrjT6ViCU&feature=related

Austrian
04-29-2010, 07:49 PM
I know off-topic, but that Tate fumble made me cringe. Funny stuff Tate fumbles and McMannis recovers it.

76Texan
04-30-2010, 03:50 PM
I know off-topic, but that Tate fumble made me cringe. Funny stuff Tate fumbles and McMannis recovers it.
I haven't watched the entire game but McMannis looked pretty good on a few series that I saw.

Honoring Earl 34
04-30-2010, 03:53 PM
I haven't watched the entire game but McMannis looked pretty good on a few series that I saw.

I posted this in another thread but think it's worth mentioning , he could only do the benchpress from the East West Shrine game until the draft . He never got a chance to run , jump , or do drills .

76Texan
04-30-2010, 04:00 PM
Let's take an example, and see how the RCB did.
In this one, the WR didn't go long, but the DB played back already.
The guy you saw coming up at first is a safety.

Just under 8 mins to play in the fourth.
After the Ben tate's TD run.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBxrjT6ViCU&feature=related

It might be obvious that I'm trying to go somewhere with this.
ie., to see how a CB does on a reverse.

In this game, the receiver Zachery (Auburn) hasn't got time to get up to speed due to all the bodies in front of him.

First of, both the RDT and RDE (93 Mafuli and 94 Browne) weren't fooled.
They both cam back and forced Zachery to the outside.

The Wildcats played 3 deep. with the 4th guy the safety #17 Phillips, played up at the start but dropped back quickly.
#44 Tate went out and blocked him (good block Tate).
But still, Zachery was forced to slow down as he took a wider angle to the outside.

The WR #89 Adams and the LB #57 Williams were also in the way.

Now take a look at the RCB (in place of KJ) was taken by the LT #73 clear to the sideline.

All this allowed the other safety #10 the time to pursue and push Zachery out of bound. (LCB McManis showed up right afterward.)

Yet, it was still a 50yd run.

76Texan
04-30-2010, 04:01 PM
I posted this in another thread but think it's worth mentioning , he could only do the benchpress from the East West Shrine game until the draft . He never got a chance to run , jump , or do drills .

We have plenty of time to look at him later, yeah!
First impression was pretty good.

76Texan
04-30-2010, 04:09 PM
More on the reverse.

The same receiver Zachery 6-1-211.
Reported 40 time out of college 4.56
Unofficial current time 4.46
This time against Arkansas.

The Razorbacks weren't fooled either.
There were also tons of guys in front of the play,
making it hard for Zachery to get up to speed.

Again, the LT #73 took on the RCB (imagine KJ again) and drove him way out of the play, very early.

The OLB and both safeties were in pursuit without blockers.
They forced him toward the sideline.

Another LB (who had dropped back to check on the TE), came over and gave Zachery an ankle swipe, upsetting his balance.

This gave some time to the LCB to pursue and ran Zachery out of bound.

Still, that play went for 60 yds.

76Texan
04-30-2010, 04:16 PM
And as Dale Murphy had mentioned, this is Dunta against Owens and the Bills on the reverse.

http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2009110101/2009/REG8/texans@bills#tab:watch

76Texan
04-30-2010, 04:31 PM
And this is KJ "bad" tape on the same reverse against the same guy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fim4rPGfcu0

But there are a lot of difference.
Whatcha think?

JB
04-30-2010, 04:45 PM
And this is KJ "bad" tape on the same reverse against the same guy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fim4rPGfcu0

But there are a lot of difference.
Whatcha think?

I think that was a really good play design by Auburn. Not a whole lot KJ could do. Where was the safety & OLB?

Ole Miss Texan
04-30-2010, 05:25 PM
Jackson saw what was happening and was in "fairly" decent position - I think most CB's would be in this spot when they're getting blocked by a LT 15 yards downfield though!

Instead of him waiting there with the tackle between him and the ballcarrier, I would like to see him get on the other side as soon as he saw what was going on and then get ready for a nice form tackle.

JB
04-30-2010, 05:28 PM
Jackson saw what was happening and was in "fairly" decent position - I think most CB's would be in this spot when they're getting blocked by a LT 15 yards downfield though!

Instead of him waiting there with the tackle between him and the ballcarrier, I would like to see him get on the other side as soon as he saw what was going on and then get ready for a nice form tackle.

His problem was his receiver carried him inside, when he came back there was the LT that did a minor holding

thunderkyss
04-30-2010, 05:52 PM
Let's take an example, and see how the RCB did.
In this one, the WR didn't go long, but the DB played back already.
The guy you saw coming up at first is a safety.

Just under 8 mins to play in the fourth.
After the Ben tate's TD run.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBxrjT6ViCU&feature=related

Was that Sherrick McManas?? Was that Sherrick getting beat on all those other plays?

Austrian
04-30-2010, 06:32 PM
Was that Sherrick McManas?? Was that Sherrick getting beat on all those other plays?

McMannis is #24. He plays on the right side. All big plays were on the corner on the left. (even the long runs) The only highlight they showed from the right side was the fumble recovery of McMannis.

edit: One run to the right. McMannis was engaged on a blocker but managed to shove Tate OB for a gain of about 15.

76Texan
04-30-2010, 06:46 PM
McMannis is #24. He plays on the right side. All big plays were on the corner on the left. (even the long runs) The only highlight they showed from the right side was the fumble recovery of McMannis.

edit: One run to the right. McMannis was engaged on a blocker but managed to shove Tate OB for a gain of about 15.

yeap!

Our new CB looks pretty good, doesn't he?

76Texan
04-30-2010, 06:50 PM
His problem was his receiver carried him inside, when he came back there was the LT that did a minor holding
Nice catch!

It's near impossible to see from the youtube video.

But from the game tape, when you slowed it down, you can see the LT pulled on his shoulder jersey. There was a lost momentum (very slightly) and it also caused KJ to fall on one knee, but he managed best he can to reach for the runner.

But let's disregard this, I still think KJ did a very decent job.

JB
04-30-2010, 06:57 PM
Nice catch!

It's near impossible to see from the youtube video.

But from the game tape, when you slowed it down, you can see the LT pulled on his shoulder jersey. There was a lost momentum (very slightly) and it also caused KJ to fall on one knee, but he managed best he can to reach for the runner.

But let's disregard this, I still think KJ did a very decent job.

I think he did too. Certainly a lot better than Dunta's flail at Owens

76Texan
04-30-2010, 07:04 PM
Jackson saw what was happening and was in "fairly" decent position - I think most CB's would be in this spot when they're getting blocked by a LT 15 yards downfield though!

Instead of him waiting there with the tackle between him and the ballcarrier, I would like to see him get on the other side as soon as he saw what was going on and then get ready for a nice form tackle.

First thing first.
Pretty much the whole team bought the run fake to the other side.
Auburn had blockers to seal off the backside on every level.
The RDE and the ROLB both had it bad; they were fooled and they were sealed off to make the matter worse.
Your containment started right there.

Next comes the safety; he also bought the fake badly.
And when he came back, he was cut down by the WR that KJ had avoided.
But that's not all. He got up and got in the way of the LB who finally came back and was knocked down terribly again.
This slow the LB down (I think it was McClain) and there goes the closest pursuit.

KJ put on a fake move to the outside of the LT then swirled past him to the inside. The runner cut to the outside. KJ actually did a zigzag thingy in that scenario (which means flex hips and good footwork); if not for that hold from the LT, IMHO, he would have made the tackle.

But at any rate, he still did enough to slow down the guy for the cavalry to arrive.

Too bad the LB and the safety got tangled up as I had described.
Arenas and another defender (either the other safety or another LB) did arrive but both overran the play as the runner cut back inside.

IMO, KJ gave a lot of guys enough time to get there, but none did anything to rectify their errors to begin with.

And as the other 2 examples showed, this time Zachery had the whole open field. Even if we marked this as "bad tape" for KJ, it could also be marked as a good run by Zachery who had shown that he can do it, even in traffic.

76Texan
04-30-2010, 09:56 PM
Alright, I'm gonna do something a little different as I remembered the bad tapes on Haden that I have mentioned before against S. Carrolina, a team which Kareem played very well against.

Good for comparison.Haden vs. S. Car

1st half

1-10 Pass Inc. under pressure; throw away
2-10 Pass Inc. under pressure; ball batted down
3-10 Ball tipped at the line; WR Brown caught it for 7
Good job by Haden to switch from his man to make the tackle.
But he had time to see the play.

1-10 Run play for 4yd.
Haden lined up at OLB position, was responsible for the alley
And filled it uncovered, what he was supposed to do.
3yd run, 4yd run First down
1-10 Run play one yd loss.
2-11 Pass Interference gators
1-10 Haden played tight in press man coverage and broke off a pass.
But lots of hands on the receiver though: arm around, hand on hip, pushing,
Jersey grabbing, all very subtle. Ref let them play, fine.
2-10 Tipped ball again; Incomplete
3-10 Screen pass to TE for 13
3yd run
8yd QB scramble due to pressure First down
3yd QB keeper
2-7 QB Hit, forcing an underthrow, inc.
3-7 WR ran a quick in and out pass Haden and caught the ball for 24yds.
His momentum carried him out of bound.
A better throw and the receiver would have a chance with the safety
For a potential bigger play.
1-10 WR wide open 17yd pass play.
1 and goal, 1yd TD run up the middle.

So after that third down conversion from the Gators 42, the Gamecocks were able to score a TD


6yd run, 13 yd run
3yd run
Bad exchange, RB fumbled recovered by Florida

3yd QB draw
2-7 Haden played off-man, a least 3yd behind the first down marker
Quick swing pass to receiver who ran 14yds for the first down.
Haden needed help from the LB to bring the runner down.
Not the surest tackle there.
1-10 Pressure, throw away
2-10 Haden showed blitz too clearly, QB simply threw over him for 13yds.
3yd run
20 yd pass play
1-10 @ Fla 11 Haden was picked off clean by the wide-out.
Quick bubble pass to the slot man but stopped by the LB for 3yds
2-7 Haden started out in good position just outside endzone with help from safety.
Garcia scrambled away from LB Spike to buy time.
As the QB rolled left, the TE simply got past Haden to the corner for a TD.
Similar to how a Power Forward or Center (in basketball)
taking inside position over the defender.
But Haden never did use his body to block out.
Instead, he allowed the TE to loop around him easily.
TD.

1-10 Quick pass for 5 to the slot man; Haden was neutralized by the wide- out.
2-5 Similar to the run before where Haden was uncovered and responsible for the alley.
For some reason, he didn’t step up to fill it.
The RDE got off the LT and had a hand on the runner, but he bursted free.
Haden didn’t get him until a 13yd gain was in the book.
1-10 Under pressure, QB scrambled right and completed a 15yd pass.
1-10 Pass Inc. with not much time left in the half, QB wasn’t patient enough.
Probably wanted to stop the clock as well.
2-10 with 19 secs to go.
Haden never disguised the blitz.
The receiver made a signal but the RB didn’t bother to pick him up.
Garcia never took a look either, seems like nobody heard the WR.
Haden (from the slot) jumped on the QB who fumbled the ball.
SC recovered the ball as time ran out.

In the first half, the QB was under pressure early at least 6 times and had to throw the ball away. He also had the ball batted down twice at the line. He also had to scramble around and the Gamecocks also suffered a fumble due to bad exchange.

76Texan
04-30-2010, 10:01 PM
In the second half, Garcia would be pressured a whole lot more.
More batted balls. He would be sacked 5 more times.
He also encountered a bad snap, a pass deflected for an INT.
There were numerous penalties on the Oline.
And don’t forget all the dropped balls throughout the game.
In all Garcia ran around 13 times for a net loss of 21yds.

Haden was never under duress in the second half.


Bad snap 4yd loss
2-14 False start half the distance to the goal
2-15 Quick pass dropped by receiver
3-15 Ball batted down
Punt

13yd pass to TE
2yd QB draw
2-8 Ball batted down, still catchable but dropped.
3-8 Blitz thru the middle and sack – no time
Punt

3yd run
2-6 running play for 13 yds up the middle.
Good effort by Haden to come in for the tackle;
Safety was right there along with LBs coming back.
1-10 Quick pass for 9yds.
Again, Haden showed blitz early, WR signaled.
This time, the RB stayed to block;
Garcia threw over Haden for 9yds.
2-1 QB keeper for 2 and the first down
5yd run, 3yd quick pass
3-2 RB ran into the blitz no gain.
4-2 QB ran for 6 and a first down
1-10 Inc. pass thrown long and out of bound.
Miscommunication WR/QB
Also Garcia was hurried by the blitz.
2-10 False start
2-15 Another blitz, 3 defenders up the middle.
QB took a hard hit to complete a 12yd screen to the TE

(4th qtr)
3-3 Ball deflected at the line, INT Gators.


1-10 sack for 10yd loss on a blitz – QB never had the time
2-20 Only a 3 man rush and the LDE was in garcia’s face.
He dumped a pass to the RB in the flat;
the NT got off his man quickly and chased him toward the sideline.
The RB saw Haden coming up and dove to the sideline
(also to avoid the hit from the NT).
Somehow Haden was credit with a force fumble (huh?)
with the RB recovered the ball. He was already on the line and the ground caused the fumble. The ball was on the outside to start with; there was no chance of anything.
3-18 Just a 3-man rush and the QB got sacked right away
Punt


1-10 QB got sacked again as he started to set his feet.
2-14 false start half distance to the goal
2-18 Under pressure throw away
– perhaps due to good coverage from the other CB
3-18 Draw play no gain
Punt

Gators led 24-14
3yd run
quick pass for a first down
1-10 zone blitz sacked for 9yd loss in just over 2 secs.
2-19 Under pressure throw away.
3-19 With 2:14 left trailing 14-24, Garcia was desperate.
Haden played off-man on the TE who lined up at wide out on the right.
TE ran a flag route (in and out) past Haden to the inside than zig out to the sideline.
Haden sat back in the zone from the start
(a called play, perhaps to watch for the slot receiver who might cut underneath to the outside.)
Poor recognition by the QB who threw the ball right at Haden for a simple TD. Perhaps he thought Haden would follow the slot receiver who had ran toward the middle.
The TE was wide open with a throw over the top.
The safety would come over but wouldn’t be able to stop the first down.
The Gators had a 3-man line and rushed 3.
Clearly they were in prevent defense.
Good job by Haden (?) but IMHO, it was more the result of a bad play by the QB

Honoring Earl 34
04-30-2010, 10:03 PM
Who's the winner .

76Texan
04-30-2010, 10:04 PM
So, how do you think of Haden's play in that game?
Was he deserving of the Defensive Player of the Game Honor?
That was what he got!

Anyway, I highlighted some of the running plays where Haden was washed out to warn of a trend.

When we come to the SEC Championship game, it would prove to be among the main differences that favor the Tides.

Stay tuned!

JB
04-30-2010, 10:13 PM
So, how do you think of Haden's play in that game?
Was he deserving of the Defensive Player of the Game Honor?
That was what he got!

Anyway, I highlighted some of the running plays where Haden was washed out to warn of a trend.

When we come to the SEC Championship game, it would prove to be among the main differences that favor the Tides.

Stay tuned!

Cain't hardly wait!

76Texan
05-04-2010, 12:32 PM
I wanted to tone down on Kareem Jackson, but he makes it very hard for me to do so.

vs. Auburn after that reverse.

1-10 Good coverage. KJ had outside position on a throw to the deep left corner.
Pass overthrown; otherwise KJ would be the one with first shot at the ball.

2-10 Play action fake, QB draw for 13yds.
KJ made the tackle.
What's so special about a CB stopping a 13yd draw play?
You just have to roll the tape and watch it in slow motion.

This guy has excellent field vision and possesses the natural instinct, the smart,
and the athleticism to play the game.
He shows tremendous flexibility in the hips, the ability to turn and run with ease.
(in the Florida game, he shows that he can turn one way and then turn back the other way
without breaking stride, making it look so simple as if he was running a straight line all that time.)
He also shows great footwork and balance.
And he knows how to use his arms and hands to advantage in fighting off blockers.

In this play, he was backpedaling but kept his eyes on both the QB
and the RB (Tate) who lined up away and drifted outside for a possible screen pass.
KJ broke off the receiver immediately and had to avoid the ref
as well the downfield lineman #57 to get to the QB.
Both safeties would join him, the first one was about 4-5 steps late in his start.
KJ had read his key well when he saw the RG #57 pulled behind C and started downfield
(that can't be a long pass.)
Neither of the safeties did recognize the play until the QB was well in his strike on the run
even though they were not obstructed by anything.
They weren't threatened by any receivers deep either.
(One LB had stepped up to check on Tate, the other dropped with the TE; the Tides were in nickel.
The middle was wide open.)

1-10 And unlike Haden, when the receiver slowing down on his slant route, KJ knew something was going on.
Sure enough, the receiver wanted to seal off the back side for another reverse.
KJ got up in the alley making sure the edge was protected.
Then he squared up and waited for the runner to commit himself before he went for the tackle.
(All this was in constant motion, not like he had all day to sit there and wait).
It was a 3yd run, only because the Jack LB #32 was washed out by the FB, slowing McClain down in pursuit.
That could have been a negative play.

Now come the fun play.
2 and goal at the Tides' one-yd line.
Auburn in power formation with an extra lineman outside the RT; the TE outer most.
The FB behind, between the extra tackle and the TE.
RB Tate in the backfield.

KJ lined up just outside the TE but did not follow when the TE released.
Instead, he head straight upfield, started to penetrate to the inside.
But he quickly realized that the FB and the play was going outside on a stretch run.
KJ changed direction on a dime (WOA that move right there wins the Dancing with the Stars contest).
He beat the FB to the punch with a combination of great footwork and handwork and a show of physicality.
(The guy is some 230 lbs).
Tate was forced back inside for no gain.
That would have been a TD for sure.

Next series.
3-5 KJ played off-man, but quickly stepped back up ready to jump the route.
The QB pulled the ball back just in time and went elsewhere for an incompletion; overthrow.
Punt

1-10 Another reverse; and the Tides lost containment again up front.
And as usual, the safety #4 got washed out by a receiver's block.
Again, KJ set the edge outside the LT #73 and made the tackle.
A 13yd gain. Unspectacular? You bet; but he also saved a TD right there.

Same series
1-10 Only 2 secs but still a coverage sacked. Guess why? Good coverage again by KJ.
The QB wanted to pass, but hesitated, then wanted to try again, then saw the Jack LB charging.
He pulled back and tried to brace for the hit; didn't matter; fumble, Tides recovered.

Next series.

1-10 Complete pass to WR Adams 27yd along the sideline.
He was about 5yds past KJ, caught the pass, then stepped out of bound as the safety arrived.
Different camera angles did not show enough of the play.
What I saw at the start was that KJ had good position on the receiver, pinning him to the sideline.
The receiver started to make his move to the inside; there were contacts.

The announcers, for some reason, didn't see the play either.
"... KJ, I believe (I think) fell down... You can see KJ obviously a little baffled by what happened.
Either he fell or he was expecting help over the top."

IMO, what the announcer referred to as "a little baffled" stemmed from the fact that KJ looked back at the side judge when the play was finished. I think KJ wanted an offensive pass interference call.

I didn't see the move from the receiver as really sudden to cause KJ to cross himself
and trip.

At any rate, the Tides forced an out soon afterward.

Halftime.

76Texan
05-04-2010, 12:56 PM
2nd Half

3-1 Screen pass to Tate on the other side of the field.
KJ first one to get there on the tackle for a 3yd-loss.
How'd that happen?

KJ showed intention to blitz from RCB (where he plays pretty much exclusively),
and that ought to tip the Tiges, right?
Obviously, they were so concerned, they wanted two guys blocking him,
even at the risk of optioninng the Jack LB #32
And KJ beat both the FB and the LT (one after the other).

#32 had a straight line to the QB, forcing him to hurry his throw, behind Tate.
Tate had to turn around to catch the ball and made a nice spin move to get past the LDE back toward the inside.
KJ made the tackle from behind for the loss.

Late in the third quarter, KJ would shake off both the receiver and the LT to make the tackle on another reverse; this time limiting it to just a 2yd gain.

Then on 2-13, the QB was forced to pull up and run as KJ was in good coverage again.

4th quarter

2-9 Pitch out to Tate on a stretch run left, stopped for a 7yd loss by Guess Who???
Another great play by KJ.
He was playing 5yds off-man, but read the play like a book.
Came up quickly, flew past the receiver, made sure he set the edge outside the LT,
set his feet and made a nice tackle.
Announcer: "KJ does a great job. They had Burns (WR) trying to block him on the outside.
KJ went by him as if he wasn't even there".

That made it 3rd and 16.
The Tides unloaded McClain and Arenas to sack the QB on the next play forcing a punt.

Tides led 26-21 with 1:24 left to go.
Auburn last chance.
KJ contributed 2 good plays as the Tides went to prevent and Auburn ran out of time.

1. Good coverage on the deeper route, forcing the QB to go short with the underneath receiver.
KJ came right up along with #32; the receiver saw them coming and dropped the ball.

2. KJ dropped deep in the zone. He was the furthest man (among a trio) from the receiver, yet flew in quickly and made the tackle. Excellent recognition skill.

76Texan
05-06-2010, 04:18 PM
Alright, here comes the SEC Championship game.

I'd like to present Joe Haden first this time.
See what you think about where he was drafted at!?!
He's hardly involved in any passing play... for a reason.

Haden vs. Alabama


3-4 Bama WR Julio Jones ran a slant inside from the slot.
Haden with decent coverage, but Jones dropped the ball.
Shoulda been a first down.
Haden had one of his hand on the receiver just the same as KJ (in another game) but this time, no PI was called.

2-7 Ball thrown into double coverage.
Pretty good coverage by Haden; but without the safety, it's most likely a 17yd catch.
Haden played it correctly, utilizing safety help.
Lots of hands on the body though.

1-10 Ingram 7yd run left end. (a little less than 7 mins to go in the first qtr).
On playside, Haden was driven way away into the parking lot by Julio Jones (and I mean it).

1 and goal at the 7.
Ingram TD up the middle.
Jones clearly was ready to block but Haden made no attempt to do anything.
He would at least had a chance at Ingram had he tried to get involved in the play.
He took off a lot of plays this way in the game.

2-10 Richardson found nothing up the middle.
He bounced outside and met Haden 2yd behind the LOS with a stiff arm
and shook off Haden's arm tackle. Safety saved the day coming over to push runner out of bound after 7yd.
Haden played the weakside uncovered (no receiver).
His responsibility was to protect the alley and turn any run back to the inside.
He failed miserably even with good position 2yd into the backfield.

1-10 Again, Haden played weakside on the run play.
He got cleared off by the TE and lost total containment.
25yd run for Richardson.
Haden tried to come back and promptly missed a tackle.
(The safety had caused the RB to lose balance and another defender had also arrived.)

3-2 Ingram off LT for 5 and a first down.
Here it clearly shows Haden's weakness.
The Tides often moved the receiver Jones inside to block, disregarding Haden.
This time, Jones would take on the OLB (in a 5-man front) and clear him to the outside.
It is true that the safety Wright came up and missed the tackle.
But Haden was also right there, but he simply was not ready nor strong enough for it.

In running plays he continued to get neutralized or killed by the receiver.
He was very passive most of the time even when unblocked.
This guy is far from physical in the run game;
he will be a liability if he doesn't work on his strength.

The Tides were content to exploit other guys in the passing game and Haden in the running game
on the way to a convincing 32-13 win.

76Texan
05-06-2010, 04:57 PM
Now it's Kareem jackson's turn

vs. Florida 09 SEC Champiosnhip

2-8 KJ with Good coverage; Tebow went the other way.
3-8 Good coverage everywhere; Tebow threw the ball away.

Punt

Bama led 9-0

1-10 Played the option well, staying with the pitch man while controlling the QB;
Tebow had to turn up the middle for no gain.
Announcer was praising KJ.

KJ was also aware of the situations, running down/passing situation.
He reads the QB, RB and WR well.
If the WR makes a move to block, KJ knows to get off
and promptly find the runner instead.
It showed on another running play, and throughout the game.

2-10 Jammed the WR at the line and locked steps with him.
Tebow waited and waited and finally dumped a swing pass to Nelson for a loss of one.

3-12 Good coverage on the slant in good position to jump the route if throw underneath;
Tebow threw high and long to keep the ball away from KJ, almost intercepted by the safety
(just off his hands); pressure was on.

FG 9-3 Bama

1-10 Good coverage on the WR Hernandez locking step while locating the ball;
Tebow had to throw outside, absolutely no chance for a catch.
Both announcers were praising now.
One: "Here's play fake; and good coverage from KJ down the left side line...
Boy, was he covered from the get go."
Two: "And he stays so disciplined. He stays with the bump and run coverage...
That's perfect technique!"

2-10 A 14yd option pitch on the other side was negated by a holding penalty.
But here you can see the difference; unlike KJ,
the safety #4 didn't stay with the pitchman James and thus allowed the big run.
Tebow was already covered by he Jack LB #32 Anders (and Cody and McClain).

2-11 Both the MLB and OLB didn't account for the RB; they both dropped back to follow the TE.
KJ was locking steps with the WR; he read the swing pass and came right back up.
He sealed the edge, cut off in the direction where the RB Moody wanted to go (outside).
Moody tried to put on the brake and slipped. KJ made the tackle for a loss of 3.
This could have been a long gainer with KJ the lone defender in the area.

3-14 KJ switched quickly to the slot receiver who ran the wheel route together with the wide-out.
Tebow looked and looked, and finally had to go the other way as pressure started to come.
Pass almost intercepted by the other CB.

Punt
Bama led 12-3 now

2-1 Broken play. Tebow wanted to go right but can't.
He turned around to the left side.
#2 made a good cut block, KJ still managed to jump over him and just missed Tebow at the ankles.
The OLB was cut down cleanly by #55; McClain was late in pursuit.
The safety took forever to come up. 23yd run.
I don't think he can do any better than that.
Not too many guys can avoid that cut block where the blocker had such good angle and timing.

1-10 Tebow up a big hole in the middle;
KJ got off his blocker to make the tackle.
These two big runs here, with Haden, would have been much bigger.

Later, Tebow baited Arenas for a TD pass
Bama lead shrunk to 12-10 but they would score to go back up 19-10

Tides got beat in the middle in zone coverage.
WR Cooper ran a slant to the middle and went pass the safety
and both LBs without anybody even noticing him.
The other safety and a DB finally came and both overran Cooper.
KJ had switched to another WR who ran a corner route from the other side.
Now he had to come over to save the TD. 59yd gain.

FG Bama led 19-13 at the half.

76Texan
05-06-2010, 04:58 PM
2nd half

1-10 KJ got off his man to stop Tebow on a 3yd run.

3-7 Tight coverage to stop the WR a yard short of the first down.
(KJ had to make sure first that the receiver wouldn't run past him to take a longer pass.)
Punt

Bama TD to lead 26-13

2-12 KJ jumped in front of the receiver to deny the pass.
"Kareem Jackson who is having a BIIIIG game in the secondary"
(Announcer emphasized the word "BIG".)

Tebow would be pressured on the next play and threw an incompletion.
Punt

A long drive found the Tides atop 32-13 early in the 4th.

1-10 Good coverage, forcing Tebow to go somewhere else, and get hit as he threw the ball;
the fumble was overturned as they rule his arm just started its forward motion.

2-10 Screen pass to Hernandez; safety missed the tackle.
KJ got off his man and set his feet to stop the WR.

Two plays later, Tebow made a bad decision and threw an INT.

9:42 same score

1-10 Tight coverage; KJ broke off a slant to Cooper in the middle.
Tebow would never look his way again for the rest of the game.

LikeMike
05-06-2010, 08:13 PM
Thank you very much for this... judging him by your write ups kinda make him sound like a shutdown corner with great run support abilities. How did this guy from a major organisation fly under the radar?

thunderkyss
05-07-2010, 09:07 PM
Now it's Kareem jackson's turn

vs. Florida 09 SEC Champiosnhip


Great work.

Again... how was this guy off so many radars?

Rey
05-07-2010, 09:09 PM
Great work.

Again... how was this guy off so many radars?

Who is "so many" ?

I think that most teams had him as a 1st or 2nd rd. talent.

76Texan
05-07-2010, 11:47 PM
The question of KJ being "under the radar", I can see, is legitimate.
Even as I watched a lot of his games before the draft, I still missed lots and lots of things.
It's just impossible trying to watch too many players at the same time.
Not counting the offense, I still had to watch Cody, McClain, and Arenas.
Then I had to give some attentions to the future, noting guys like #57 DT, #24 CB/nickel back.
And there were other guys on that Defense who might be good enough as backup or situational players.
True that I watched some plays many times, but I still missed a lot.
Even as I concentrated on just one player (KJ) for these reviews, I had to go back at least two times for each play. And I found that I still missed some of the first, or second look.

Other posters had also pointed out many other valid reasons.

I will try to give some more:
The way the Tides defense was set up, they were content to let KJ play one-on-one with any receiver on his side.
Pretty much, he had 1/3 of the field to cover.

If you notice, in my reviews, it was always "KJ with good coverage... the QB had to go somewhere, which resulted in an incompletion, or an INT"

And never "The QB, on second look, pass to the receiver on KJ's side".

On the second or third read (in college), the QB are bound to make more mistakes; therefore, other guys had more chance to make plays on the ball.
On the other hand, the QB never went to KJ on the second look; he never gets the benefit of any mistakes.
Not only that, the QBs were more careful with their throw to his side as compared to their throws to other sides (all on first reads).

76Texan
05-08-2010, 12:36 AM
And look, I only describe a "near to shut down" corner at the collegiate level.
Last year, he did not play against the elite receivers that are "destined" to become killers in the NFL.

Even though the 3 guys that were drafted all have potential and some other receivers will very likely be drafted next year.

We still don't know how he can hang with the best in the NFL.
(He did practice wih a very good one, Julio Jones, whose future I think is very bright.)

What we know is that KJ is a very solid-and-sound player.
He only will improve on techniques and learn more tips and tricks on how to play at the higher level.
If he's going to be beat, it will be against good players "very" mostly (I think).

And that he's a very very good run-support defensive back.

IMHO, his floor is much better than Haden; their ceilings unknown.
Some think that since Hayden is a year younger, he has higher ceiling.
I'd say Hayden would have to improve a lot to reach that lofty ceiling.

76Texan
05-08-2010, 12:40 AM
And while everybody is hot on the Cush's latest, let me just complete the KJ series while I have some time.


vs. UT National game


1-10
Kareem read and played the pitch well; McCoy had to turn up the middle for no gain.
McCoy was hurt and went out, replaced by Gilbert.


1-goal at Bama 2-1/2
Kareem was moving with the motion man
(how the Tides use him at times; it will be seen again.)
Kareem was able to penetrate just outside LT;
this, together with outside containment prevented the 1st down.


2-goal just inside the one; power formation.

Again, Kareem followed the motion man #24;
this time he would penetrate outside RT,
warded off #24, and cut down the FB #33 at the POA just behind the LOS.
This allowed #57 to stop #31 for a 1/2 yd loss.
WOA, a CB who is good at the goal line, who is this guy?!?

3-goal just outside the one; power formation.
Gilbert rolled out to the right for a pass.
Kareem followed the motion man #24 who went into the right corner.
He would play back and #27 would play in front of the receiver;
Gilbert had to throw the ball away.
Well played, Kareem, well played!

FG.

In 3 consecutive plays near the goal line, KJ contributed greatly to prevent the TD.
The Horns could have been successful in any of those instances.
That was as good as any LB or safety can play.
But a CB?


2nd qtr

Tides led 7-6

1-10
Kareem good coverage

3-10
Nobody open for gilbert; good coverage Kareem

Punt

Tides 14-6 now

1-10 Ulastoski pulled outside TE. Good lead block on an end run.
Safety came up but got swept off by FB, hindered McClain and 32 in pursuit.
28yd run.
Kareem was setting the edge to wait for help.
Can he do better? Don't think so. Can't expect too much.


3-5
Kareem protected the rear on WR Shipley.
Tides had two guys reading the play in front, LB 27 and CB Arenas.
INT for Arenas. Kareem also had a chance for the INT had Arenas not caught it.

Thomas continued not to look so hot on run support on several plays (3)
But also made one good tackle.

Punt.

Punt

Tides FG to lead 17-6
Then wow, freak play, bad shuffle pass by Gilbert.
Bama 24-6 at the half.

76Texan
05-08-2010, 01:44 AM
2nd half

1-10 9yd run
Kareem was so so on this play.


1-10 gd coverage kareem

2-10
gd coverage Kareem on the slant showing smooth hips, incomplete.

Penalty on Horns
2-25 Inc.
3-25
Kareem got cut by the slot man; but IMO he set the edge, a little too agressively.
Main problem was with the safety taking wrong angle again.
Again, you can afford an aggressive play on 3-25 when you're supposed to have help.
Anyway, it was a Punt.

Tides also punt

1-10
kareem with great coverage pinning WR to the sideline.


Punt
Punt

Punt
Punt


3-8
kareem (with great awereness) came over from the other side to deliver a big blow on 84 to prevent a big gain.

2-10 kareem gd coverage
but Gilbert threw a TD pass in the middle due to a bad play by Arenas & #23

24-13 Tides

Horns recovered the onside kick

1-10
I disagree with the announcer here.
Kareem did look back at the ball as he put out his hand and he never did quite make contact with Shipley.
The official was right there and had a clear view.
Great coverage and distraction by Kareem on the incomplete pass.
The call was correct.

3-11 on UT 41
Kareem with tight coverage.
He looked back at the ball as he made contact with the receiver to break off the play.
Again, the official was right there. The announcer wanted a PI.
The WR#9 actually put a hand on KJ to push off first.
It was a bang bang play.
A complete pass would give the Horns a first down at the 43.
A no-call was about right.
I think it was a smart play by Kareem, looking back at the ball quickly.
Incomplete.
Sorry Horns' fans.
Punt

4th qtr

The Horns missed McCoy but Gilbert did a good job
(as long as he doesn't try to challenge KJ, that is!)
The Tides played very conservative without Ingram.

1-10 KJ good coverage, QB had to pull up and run and sacked or no gain.
Actually, Shipley should have been called for a face mask pulling on Kareem like that.
Announcer: "(QB) is looking off to his left to Shipley.. but unfortunately Shipley's trying to go against Kareem Jackson and he can't shake it; KJ is all over him; eventually there's nothing the young QB can do with his football..."

.....
Gilbert would go elsewhere to move the Horns downfield and scored.

2-13
TD to #8 over #23;
good coverage kareem on the other side.
2 pt conversion pass to #4 over 27

Tides lead now only 24-21 with over 6 mins to go.

Horns get the ball back with 3:14 to go.
They made a mistake optioning the Jack LB 32 Anders for the third time in the game.
He had a clear path to the QB, fumble, Tides recovered at the 4.

Everything else is academic.

......

The good news for Horns fans is that the LT that the Texans picked up as UDFA played an excellent game.

He totally neutralized the DE, and destroyed the Jack LB 32
I just don't agree with optioning #32 (or anybody) deep in your own territory with a young QB who hardly ever play.

If Ulatoski can play like that in every game (something I haven't looked at) he would have been the first tackle drafted. What's the scoop here, Horns fans?!?

LikeMike
05-08-2010, 01:44 PM
I don`t know how much you`ve seen of Kyle Wilson and Devin McCourty, but how would you rank the 1st round CBs?

Oh, and if you`re up to some more tape watching and analyzing, I´d be really interested in what you think about Earl Mitchell...

76Texan
05-14-2010, 12:05 PM
I don`t know how much you`ve seen of Kyle Wilson and Devin McCourty, but how would you rank the 1st round CBs?

Oh, and if you`re up to some more tape watching and analyzing, I´d be really interested in what you think about Earl Mitchell...
I've been out of the pocket. Just got back.

I had watched 7 games that Mitchell played.
I need some time to organize some stuffs, so I don't think I can get to it until next week.

As far as the CBs, instead of ranking them, (I think OleMissTexan said it best) it can also be looked at as how they fit with each team.

The Texans like to play press man coverage often, so KJ is a perfect fit.
Also, he played almost exclusively on the right side (Dunta's side).

Kyle Wilson played all over the place, including the slot. That versatility is good for the long run, but KJ's multiple reps at one spot make him more ready to play.

McCourty played a lot of cover 2 at Rutgers where the CB often gives the receiver a good bit of cushion. He does play man coverage from time to time but not a lot.

Both guys are fast; they all can cover well, but KJ is the best at run support and tackling.
He's almost always in good position where as Wilson and McCourty did take poor angles many times. And they don't always set their feet before making the lunge at the ball carier.

drewmar74
05-14-2010, 04:20 PM
I've been out of the pocket. Just got back.

I had watched 7 games that Mitchell played.
I need some time to organize some stuffs, so I don't think I can get to it until next week.

As far as the CBs, instead of ranking them, (I think OleMissTexan said it best) it can also be looked at as how they fit with each team.

The Texans like to play press man coverage often, so KJ is a perfect fit.
Also, he played almost exclusively on the right side (Dunta's side).

Kyle Wilson played all over the place, including the slot. That versatility is good for the long run, but KJ's multiple reps at one spot make him more ready to play.

McCourty played a lot of cover 2 at Rutgers where the CB often gives the receiver a good bit of cushion. He does play man coverage from time to time but not a lot.

Both guys are fast; they all can cover well, but KJ is the best at run support and tackling.
He's almost always in good position where as Wilson and McCourty did take poor angles many times. And they don't always set their feet before making the lunge at the ball carier.


Thanks a ton for this information. Great stuff!

JB
05-17-2010, 09:30 PM
Nice quote from Jacoby on Jackson

"He's aggressive," Jones said. "I like that. He's good. He can run, he's very athletic, and he's smart. He doesn't mess up twice."

And from Kubes

"He looked good," Texans coach Gary Kubiak said. "He went right to work with the first group from day one. We have very high expectations for him. He'll have to earn his keep, and I don't have any doubt he'll do that."

http://www.houstontexans.com/news/Story.asp?STORY_ID=6165

Playoffs
05-19-2010, 12:12 AM
This is great stuff, 76. :thumbup

b0ng
05-19-2010, 01:25 AM
I like the praise Jackson is receiving. Hoping it's not off season hyperbole, but so far it sounds like they like how he fits in.

Dutchrudder
05-19-2010, 11:23 AM
Hadn't seen this thread before, but great job 76! RP4U!

thunderkyss
06-10-2010, 09:48 AM
Week 8 - Kareem vs. Tenn
Jonathan Crompton is a good solid QB but not spectacular.
Tenn ha a couple of receivers that show promises.


1. Gets beat on a quick slant off a nice move by the WR for 14yds
(third play of the game, I think.)
2. Gets beat on a same slant again,
this time for 27yds against Hardesty who lined up at wide out.

It just looks like he wasn't ready at the start of this game.
Maybe he thought the QB wouldn't challenge him so early in the game.


I just watched this game. I agree somewhat with your take. However, as I watched the early minutes of this game, I thought he was simply unprepared. He kept looking inside, as if he was looking for direction, and didn't get set up until just before the snap.

I've got to say, I was very disappointed with what I saw early on. Tennessee challenged the other CB, the other side of the field more frequently. I don't know if that is because it is easier for the CB to see that side of the field or because he was "weary" of Kareem Jackson.

But every time he tested KJ's side, he was successful.

76Texan
06-10-2010, 02:59 PM
I just watched this game. I agree somewhat with your take. However, as I watched the early minutes of this game, I thought he was simply unprepared. He kept looking inside, as if he was looking for direction, and didn't get set up until just before the snap.

I've got to say, I was very disappointed with what I saw early on. Tennessee challenged the other CB, the other side of the field more frequently. I don't know if that is because it is easier for the CB to see that side of the field or because he was "weary" of Kareem Jackson.

But every time he tested KJ's side, he was successful.

KJ was on his team side line.
He was making signals and relaying messages from the coaches to the other guys in the secondary.
(Whether they would play off-man, press-man, box-and-one, things like that).

What do you mean by "every time"?
The first one was the third play of the game where the receiver put on a great move at the line and beat him on the slant.
The Tides played 2-deep safeties; KJ knew he had help (which was what happened) and was peaking at the RB.

The second time he got beat on another slant toward the end of the quarter.
Actually, if you watch that play again (carefully), you would see that he also had safety help and was looking to jump the route.
He was pretty close to breaking up that pass.

The third time was as I described in the post that analyzed the game.

76Texan
06-10-2010, 03:03 PM
The Tides 2nd and 3rd CBs are J. Arenas and M. Johnson.
These guys are athletic. They can make plays but they also got burnt from time to time.

Look for M. Johnson next year. That kid can really sky!

Edit.
My Bad. Johnson is a seventh round pick for the Rams.
Dang. That's a steal!

littlecat
06-11-2010, 03:38 AM
I like him,

www.america-jerseys.com

BSofA04
07-11-2010, 12:48 PM
On ESPNU (channel 208 on DirecTV) they're showing a replay of the 2010 National Championship game right now. You can watch Kareem in action on the big stage.

badboy
07-12-2010, 12:11 PM
On ESPNU (channel 208 on DirecTV) they're showing a replay of the 2010 National Championship game right now. You can watch Kareem in action on the big stage.Man I wish I had known as I would have watched his play. May have done a lot for decreasing my negativity concerning him. Were you able to isolate on him? My concerns are his ability to turn and run with the WR and if beat his mental recovery time.