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Blake
03-30-2010, 03:59 PM
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WHAAA??? RT @AnnaMegan (http://twitter.com/AnnaMegan) Texans have finally signed DeMeco Ryans. Stay tuned for details. #hounews (http://twitter.com/search?q=%23hounews)

El Tejano
03-30-2010, 04:01 PM
A happy Demeco is a happy Texans Team = Happy Texans Fans!!!!!!

IBleedTexans
03-30-2010, 04:05 PM
Very Very Awsome. Todays my brothers birthday.... what a hell of a b day present.

beerlover
03-30-2010, 04:06 PM
beers on the house :barman:

Shaft75
03-30-2010, 04:08 PM
Wuuuuuuuuuuuuut!

brakos82
03-30-2010, 04:09 PM
:woot2:

NitroGSXR
03-30-2010, 04:10 PM
6 year deal per the Chron but no contract details.

JB
03-30-2010, 04:11 PM
Filed to ESPN: Texans signed LB DeMeco Ryans to a six-year, $48 million contract extension.
3 minutes ago via web

Adam_Schefter DeMeco Ryans' deal includes $21.75 million guaranteed and $26.3 million in the first three years of the contract.

http://twitter.com/Adam_Schefter

JCTexan
03-30-2010, 04:13 PM
Awesome! :fans:

False Start
03-30-2010, 04:14 PM
Hell yeah! :jam:

The Pencil Neck
03-30-2010, 04:14 PM
Cheap ass basta... wait. What?

NitroGSXR
03-30-2010, 04:15 PM
Wow. We robbed him. Suggs got 16 more million.

Ole Miss Texan
03-30-2010, 04:16 PM
Filed to ESPN: Texans signed LB DeMeco Ryans to a six-year, $48 million contract extension.
3 minutes ago via web

Adam_Schefter DeMeco Ryans' deal includes $21.75 million guaranteed and $26.3 million in the first three years of the contract.

http://twitter.com/Adam_Schefter

I thought free agency was over weeks ago and we've concluded that Bob McNair is cheap, doesn't want a winner and doesn't care about rewarding players on this team that have played their heart out. :rake:

Section516
03-30-2010, 04:16 PM
One down, one to go (I want to wait on B.P

Blake
03-30-2010, 04:17 PM
Here is the Karlos Dansby contract for a comparison.

3/5/2010: Signed a five-year, $43 million contract. The deal contains $22 million guaranteed, including a $16 million signing bonus. 2010: $4.8 million, 2011: $2.7 million, 2012: $8.8 million, 2013: $6.05 million, 2014: $9.05 million, 2015: Free Agent

NitroGSXR
03-30-2010, 04:20 PM
I thought free agency was over weeks ago and we've concluded that Bob McNair is cheap, doesn't want a winner and doesn't care about rewarding players on this team that have played their heart out. :rake:

Neither Ryans, Pollard, nor Daniels were ever true FAs. The FA period that passed is a whole different monster now. Acquiring premium FA's now require a dash of pixie dust.

keyser
03-30-2010, 04:23 PM
This is great news!

If those numbers are correct (and I've noticed a lot of the first-reported numbers for Texans players have tended to be lower than the ones that get reported just a bit later), that's a good deal all around. It should put him among the top LBs in the league in terms of pay, but is not over-the-top crazy.

Plus, it makes Dunta's contract look even crazier than I already thought it was.

infantrycak
03-30-2010, 04:24 PM
But, but the Chronicle didn't report about negotiations so obviously the Texans weren't making any effort to sign him.

Ole Miss Texan
03-30-2010, 04:24 PM
Neither Ryans, Pollard , or Daniels were ever true FAs. The FA period that passed is a whole different monster now. Acquiring premium FA's now require luck.
True, but teams could still sign Demeco to a deal and make the Texans match. And there's no way it would be to the Texans benefit. All this is happening behind closed doors and there's just too many fans that want to throw mud at the Front Office before letting things play out.

Hardcore Texan
03-30-2010, 04:24 PM
YES!!!!

Now to celebrate with hookers and beer.......wait... what?

CloakNNNdagger
03-30-2010, 04:25 PM
Filed to ESPN: Texans signed LB DeMeco Ryans to a six-year, $48 million contract extension.
3 minutes ago via web

Adam_Schefter DeMeco Ryans' deal includes $21.75 million guaranteed and $26.3 million in the first three years of the contract.

http://twitter.com/Adam_Schefter

Cheap ass basta... wait. What?

Demeco's going to play for free for 3 years. Yayyyyy!:shades:

HuttoKarl
03-30-2010, 04:26 PM
Sweet!

Now lets get Owen Daniels under wraps when his knee shows it's better...and give Pollard a fair deal too...guy earned it.

valleytexfan
03-30-2010, 04:27 PM
YES! Definitely a day-maker :bravo::hurrah:

Esoom
03-30-2010, 04:28 PM
Helllllll yeah.

NitroGSXR
03-30-2010, 04:28 PM
YES!!!!

Now to celebrate with hookers and beer.......wait... what?

Yeah yeah... on Rundberg between I-35 and Lamar?

Huh? I don't know where that came from. Man. It's an brain implant. Gotta be...

No guys, I'm not serious so chilllll... I prefer bathhouses.

:lol:

DiehardChris
03-30-2010, 04:31 PM
But, but the Chronicle didn't report about negotiations so obviously the Texans weren't making any effort to sign him.

LOL!!

Awesome news indeed. Made my day. Best thing about it - DeMeco isn't the type of guy who's going to disappear now that he got his money.

Fox
03-30-2010, 04:32 PM
This has been a long time coming... way to go F.O. As above, now get it done with Daniels and Pollard.

gtexan02
03-30-2010, 04:32 PM
Very Very Awsome. Todays my brothers birthday.... what a hell of a b day present.

lol, am I the only who finds this funny?

"What do you want for your birthday?"
"I hope an athlete gets a huge payday!"

:)

This is how you know we love our team too much.
:fans:

JB
03-30-2010, 04:33 PM
LOL!!

Awesome news indeed. Made my day. Best thing about it - DeMeco isn't the type of guy who's going to disappear now that he got his money.

Yep! I think he will try to play even harder to show that he was worth it. Plus Cushing will keep pushing!

Texan_Bill
03-30-2010, 04:35 PM
Reported on 1560 that the cheap sumbitch McNair only gave Ryans 6 years at $48 mill. :rolleyes:


:sarcasm: for those that don't know.

rmartin65
03-30-2010, 04:35 PM
Score!!! And very reasonable too, it looks like he is serious about bringing a championship to Houston.

Statis22
03-30-2010, 04:35 PM
Hallelujah :texanbill:

Hardcore Texan
03-30-2010, 04:36 PM
Yeah yeah... on Rundberg between I-35 and Lamar?

Huh? I don't know where that came from. Man. It's an brain implant. Gotta be...

No guys, I'm not serious so chilllll... I prefer bathhouses.

:lol:

I'll make a mental note of that location in case Bill ever comes for a visit....:hides:

Mailman
03-30-2010, 04:38 PM
Fantastic news!

Dr2bKay
03-30-2010, 04:42 PM
This news totally made my day!!! I am soooo happy! Next up is Pollard and OD. Time to buy that Battle Red Ryans jersey for next year!!!:hurrah:

IBleedTexans
03-30-2010, 04:51 PM
lol, am I the only who finds this funny?

"What do you want for your birthday?"
"I hope an athlete gets a huge payday!"

:)

This is how you know we love our team too much.
:fans:

Me and my bro r diehard texans fans so yea ..... I love Me some Texans:fans:

dalemurphy
03-30-2010, 04:52 PM
missing in action:

SecondHoneymoon
SteelbTexan
Texecutioner
GP

Texans34Life
03-30-2010, 04:52 PM
# McClain_on_NFL

Ryans makes $14.5 million the first year. He gets $200,000 every time he makes the Pro Bowl. He's made two so far.

# McClain_on_NFL

Ryan gets $21.75 guaranteed. He makes $26.3 million in the first three years and can make up to $26.9 in first 3 years if makes Pro Bowl. 30 minutes ago via web

# John McClain McClain_on_NFL

Ryans gets six-year deal for $48 million. He gets a signing bonus of $7.5 million, and his first-year base salary is $7 million guaranteed.

AnthonyE
03-30-2010, 04:53 PM
Amazing news!

Now it's The Weatherman's turn.

Hoss
03-30-2010, 04:54 PM
HELL YEAH!!!:jam:

stingray
03-30-2010, 04:56 PM
Demeco is my favorite player on the team.. I'm so happy for the guy. :bravo:

Maddict5
03-30-2010, 05:00 PM
very well deserved. lucrative & rewards demeco but as other have said very reasonable for a premiere player

infantrycak
03-30-2010, 05:03 PM
On a more serious note, the Texans and Ryans departed from the normal pump up the numbers by back loading the contract with years everyone knows will never be reached game. Basically $27 mil of the $48 mil available in the first three years leaving a back end of $21 mil. Looks like a deal that can be played out.

HOU-TEX
03-30-2010, 05:03 PM
Thank the good Lord above! I think most know how I feel about D-Ryans and what he means to this team.

I think I might pee in my pants.

Malloy
03-30-2010, 05:03 PM
AWESOME, One down, two more to go :)

I know Jebus died and all that, but man this is looking like a real nice easter (plus I'm back on the water after the last of the ice went away!)

wagonhed
03-30-2010, 05:04 PM
WOOOOOO!

:texflag:

ObsiWan
03-30-2010, 05:04 PM
Wow. We robbed him. Suggs got 16 more million.

Feel free to kick in as much as you like.
:)

TEXANS84
03-30-2010, 05:06 PM
Thank god.
Best news this entire offseason, glad to hear the man finally got paid.

Pollard needs to be next, OD after he recovers.

MFG16
03-30-2010, 05:07 PM
YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! I am so happy, especially for Demeco. the dude deserves every penny. Made My Day!

NitroGSXR
03-30-2010, 05:07 PM
very well deserved. lucrative & rewards demeco but as other have said very reasonable for a premiere player

Reasonable my ass. We robbed him. I wonder if it's got to do with Cushing playing next to him? By that, I mean another marquee LB.

Who had the better rookie year? Brian Cushing or DeMeco Ryans?

If you sputter on this question one iota then that's proof that they devalue each other on the same team.

Did I make sense at all?

m5kwatts
03-30-2010, 05:08 PM
This news made me so happy, I posted about it on all my stuff Twitter Facebook etc

Next pay OD Bob!

Ryan
03-30-2010, 05:09 PM
Best Texans news i've heard in a long time. Demeco getting re-signed has been on the top of my priority list for two years, now it's time to move on to OD and Pollard(although i'd like to see another repeat of last season out of him).

:fans:

ObsiWan
03-30-2010, 05:10 PM
Reasonable my ass. We robbed him. I wonder if it's got to do with Cushing playing next to him? By that, I mean another marquee LB.

Who had the better rookie year? Brian Cushing or DeMeco Ryans?

If you sputter on this question one iota then that's proof that they devalue each other on the same team.

Did I make sense at all?

Not to me. But what do I know....

Boris
03-30-2010, 05:10 PM
Reasonable my ass. We robbed him.]

Dang!
[QUOTE]On July 15, 2009 the Ravens signed Suggs to a 6-year, $63 million contract, a deal which includes a $10.1 million signing bonus and a $23 million option bonus due next March. $40 million will be paid in the next two years. His bonus money ($33.1 million) made him the highest paid linebacker in NFL history.[3]/QUOTE]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrell_Suggs

NitroGSXR
03-30-2010, 05:12 PM
Feel free to kick in as much as you like.
:)

Dude, I'm happy! DeMeco's a great Houston Texan! I just thought he was worth a lot more. This contract will not allow DeMeco to have any kind of payday for at least 6 years. Salary is almost the same per year for 6 years. No huge signing bonus or backloaded anything. Backloaded players generally get cut.

infantrycak
03-30-2010, 05:14 PM
Dude, I'm happy! DeMeco's a great Houston Texan! I just thought he was worth a lot more. This contract will not allow DeMeco to have any kind of payday for at least 6 years. Salary is almost the same per year for 6 years. No huge signing bonus or backloaded anything. Backloaded players generally get cut.

He's going to pocket $14.5 mil this year. I consider that a payday.

disaacks3
03-30-2010, 05:15 PM
On a more serious note, the Texans and Ryans departed from the normal pump up the numbers by back loading the contract with years everyone knows will never be reached game. Basically $27 mil of the $48 mil available in the first three years leaving a back end of $21 mil. Looks like a deal that can be played out. Well, if there's ever a year to FRONT-load a contract, this is it.

Reasonable my ass. We robbed him. I wonder if it's got to do with Cushing playing next to him? By that, I mean another marquee LB.

Who had the better rookie year? Brian Cushing or DeMeco Ryans?

If you sputter on this question one iota then that's proof that they devalue each other on the same team.

Did I make sense at all? IMHO - Cushing had a better rookie year. Meco didn't get robbed, he got paid a handsome, reasonable salary.

NitroGSXR
03-30-2010, 05:17 PM
Not to me. But what do I know....

Sounds like you understood. You just disagree. Cool. This contract favors the Houston Texans more than DeMeco Ryans. That's just what I see.

Of course, I do not know very much about NFL contracts.

Nawzer
03-30-2010, 05:21 PM
Congrats to DeMeco on the new contract. Nice job by the Texans for locking this guy up finally!

Topher
03-30-2010, 05:26 PM
http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj57/Thunderhornpics/YES.jpg

ChampionTexan
03-30-2010, 05:41 PM
Dude, I'm happy! DeMeco's a great Houston Texan! I just thought he was worth a lot more. This contract will not allow DeMeco to have any kind of payday for at least 6 years. Salary is almost the same per year for 6 years. No huge signing bonus or backloaded anything. Backloaded players generally get cut.

This is essentially the same contract signed by Bart Scott last year, and Brian Urlacher the year before that - except that there's more guaranteed money than either one of those two contracts, and it's more front-loaded than either one of those two contracts (which is a good thing), and Urlacher's deal was 5 years (as opposed to this one and Bart Scott's being 6).

In terms of cap hit, Urlacher was #1 and Scott was #4 among all LB's last year, and both guys salaries were used to calculate the LB franchise tender amount for 2010 (meaning they were both top 5 salaries). In case anyone was wondering, Suggs was classified as a hybrid LB/DE meaning his franchise tender split the difference between the two when he signed it (before reaching the long term deal). To put that in perspective, the franchise tender for DE's in 2010 was a little more than $2.5 Million higher than the tender Demeco received as a franchised LB.

I'm pretty sure Dansby has surpassed everyone as the highest paid LB, but given the fact that Demeco has a slightly better deal than both Scott and Urlacher (and those guys got their deals as UFA's), having Demeco paid as (at worst) one of the top 4 or 5 LB's in the league seems like a fair deal to both sides from my standpoint.

Oh yeah - and even if one side or the other got totally owned in this thing, it's still freakin' fantastic news!

chicagotexan2
03-30-2010, 05:46 PM
Demeco deserves and has earned this contract. He's as solid and steady as any LB in the league. I am happy for him. I hope we can lock up Daniels too.

Wolf
03-30-2010, 05:56 PM
Yeah yeah... on Rundberg between I-35 and Lamar?

Huh? I don't know where that came from. Man. It's an brain implant. Gotta be...

No guys, I'm not serious so chilllll... I prefer bathhouses.

:lol:

dang no wonder I haven't scored

I used to go off of South Congress

:foottap:

seriously

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/107/298999076_2da646173d.jpg

Texan_Bill
03-30-2010, 06:00 PM
dang no wonder I haven't scored

I used to go off of South Congress

:foottap:

seriously

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/107/298999076_2da646173d.jpg


Exposé ????

Thorn
03-30-2010, 06:03 PM
Wow, great news! :texflag:

False Start
03-30-2010, 06:07 PM
I see Demeco as a player that will prove hes worth the contract. I look for him to kick some major a$$ next season. :wild:

NitroGSXR
03-30-2010, 06:09 PM
dang no wonder I haven't scored

I used to go off of South Congress

:foottap:

seriously

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/107/298999076_2da646173d.jpg

Dude... the only thing that I can think of on South Congress... La Bare on Riverside ans S. Congress and the other was this old old porno theatre closer to Oltorf and S. Congress. I remember seeing a bear and woman cartoon there. They also showed gay porn on Thursday nights. Both were within walking distances from the Texas School for the Deaf, my old adolesent alma matter.

I'm not sure what you been wolfin' but dude...

Wolf
03-30-2010, 06:14 PM
Dude... the only thing that I can think of on South Congress... La Bare on Riverside ans S. Congress and the other was this old old porno theatre closer to Oltorf and S. Congress. I remember seeing a bear and woman cartoon there. They also showed gay porn on Thursday nights. Both were within walking distances from the Texas School for the Deaf, my old adolesent alma matter.

I'm not sure what you been wolfin' but dude...
Yikes Nitro, glad I was never even close to that place

I heard downtown off of Congress where the hookers were along with off of runberg (crackheads)

never got to go to expose

my roommate would go on wednesday to the one that was off of 71 (I think it caught fire a few years ago)

Wolf
03-30-2010, 06:21 PM
“I want to thank Mr. (Bob) McNair and Rick for believing in me,” Ryans said. “With me being a restricted free agent and a possible lockout coming (2011), they didn’t have to do this, but they really stepped up for me.”



http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/fb/texansfront/6936629.html

kiwitexansfan
03-30-2010, 06:25 PM
Wow. We robbed him. Suggs got 16 more million.

You get paid extra for being a pass rusher. Facts of life.

As for Demeco getting his, this is what good teams do, keep the essentials, let the fluff walk.

Double Barrel
03-30-2010, 06:27 PM
Nice. :thumbup

TexCanada
03-30-2010, 06:35 PM
Well done Smithiak!

NitroGSXR
03-30-2010, 06:36 PM
I was looking DeMeco up on Wikipedia...

Fans call him D-Wreck? Really? Never heard it. Is this correct?

Also called him D-Roy. Lol.

Yes. His contract's already been adjusted there. Those guys work fast!

TexansBlood
03-30-2010, 06:46 PM
I was gonna hit the gym hard in and hour but screw that im gonna celebrate with a few buddies and hit the bar :hurrah: :drunk:

Joe Texan
03-30-2010, 06:47 PM
Great News


Take that Dunta

ATXtexanfan
03-30-2010, 07:44 PM
so happy for that guy. he deserves it.

utahmark
03-30-2010, 07:53 PM
guess i bought the right players jersey.

awtysst
03-30-2010, 07:54 PM
So the contract keeps him in Htown for the next 7 years or 6 years?

kiwitexansfan
03-30-2010, 07:57 PM
I was looking DeMeco up on Wikipedia...

Fans call him D-Wreck?

Yeah the name has been used. I seem to recall it being used more earlier in his career though.

NitroGSXR
03-30-2010, 07:59 PM
So the contract keeps him in Htown for the next 7 years or 6 years?

6. I think the tender gets pulled. Ryans had not signed it yet.

imatexan
03-30-2010, 08:06 PM
Woo!!! :smiliedance:

Great news and hopefully the first of signings this offseason!

Carr Bombed
03-30-2010, 08:07 PM
Guys, it's just a rumor.....Bob McNair is WAY too cheap to sign DeMeco to that kind of contract. :rolleyes:

mariowillshine15
03-30-2010, 08:08 PM
Great news. Really happy for him.

Texan_Bill
03-30-2010, 08:25 PM
Reported on 1560 that the cheap sumbitch McNair only gave Ryans 6 years at $48 mill. :rolleyes:


:sarcasm: for those that don't know.

Guys, it's just a rumor.....Bob McNair is WAY too cheap to sign DeMeco to that kind of contract. :rolleyes:

:spit:

GP
03-30-2010, 08:52 PM
missing in action:

SecondHoneymoon
Theetoedpeet
Texecutioner
GP

Hey skidmark, I was helping my neighbor who had his HOME broken into in broad daylight this afternoon. Other neighbors came over, and we figured out that someone on our street is the thief--So we made a flyer to put up on the front door of every home on this block to warn people to start looking out for each other a little bit better.

So I wasn't avoiding this thread. I was busy being a pal to someone, and trying to make an effort to improve our street.

And if you would do some research, you'd see that I have been waiting for this deal to get done because I think it is VERY deserving.

But go ahead and try to be hot stuff with calling people out. It's fun to watch.

Carr Bombed
03-30-2010, 08:57 PM
Hey skidmark, I was helping my neighbor who had his HOME broken into in broad daylight this afternoon. Other neighbors came over, and we figured out that someone on our street is the thief--So we made a flyer to put up on the front door of every home on this block to warn people to start looking out for each other a little bit better.

So I wasn't avoiding this thread. I was busy being a pal to someone, and trying to make an effort to improve our street.

And if you would do some research, you'd see that I have been waiting for this deal to get done because I think it is VERY deserving.

But go ahead and try to be hot stuff with calling people out. It's fun to watch.

Uh oh....now we know how Mr. NcNair was able to fit this contract into his small budget....he's now knocking off houses.

All points bulletin for a old man with tight pockets :peek:

jk

GP
03-30-2010, 08:58 PM
I applaud McNair for doing the right thing. This puts my mind at ease a WHOLE lot more than it was before I learned of this signing.

While OD has a different situation, I have been very vocal about DeMeco needing to be done the right way since there was no logical way to deny him a better long-term deal that he earned.

This is awesome.

GP
03-30-2010, 09:00 PM
Uh oh....now we know how Mr. NcNair was able to fit this contract into his small budget....he's now knocking off houses.

All points bulletin for a old man with small pockets :peek:

jk

LOL.

Should I make a sketch drawing of him, to put on the flyer?

Texan_Bill
03-30-2010, 09:06 PM
I applaud McNair for doing the right thing. This puts my mind at ease a WHOLE lot more than it was before I learned of this signing.

While OD has a different situation, I have been very vocal about DeMeco needing to be done the right way since there was no logical way to deny him a better long-term deal that he earned.

This is awesome.

GP, you were so critical of McNair/Smithiak not getting DeMeco wrapped up for a while (and I agree with you about OD being a different situation); what ever made you so critical of the FO not getting something done with 'Meco?
I think the majority of folks here always knew something would get done...

(Admittedly, GP was not as bad as some other posters in this regard)

Brisco_County
03-30-2010, 09:34 PM
Congratulations, DeMeco. We're very happy for you and for our team.

Per Schefter:

Spoke to Ryans. He used words like "unbelievable" and "incredible." Thanks agent Ben Dogra, GM Rick Smith, Bob McNair.

edit: That was actually McClain via Shefter's Twitter page.

GP
03-30-2010, 09:37 PM
GP, you were so critical of McNair/Smithiak not getting DeMeco wrapped up for a while (and I agree with you about OD being a different situation); what ever made you so critical of the FO not getting something done with 'Meco?
I think the majority of folks here always knew something would get done...

(Admittedly, GP was not as bad as some other posters in this regard)

It is MADDENING to watch Dunta Robinson get $10 million for one year.

Anybody can research my posts if they want, but here was my stance:

1. During the 2009 camp and pre-season, I was pretty vocal about DeMeco and OD needing to shut up and play the 2009 season. I felt they needed to produce in a big way if they wanted to be a long-termer here. I thought they shot their mouth off too early when they sort of made a few public statements in response to their contract status.

2. Dudes and dudettes out there: DeMeco was like a man possessed this past season. He and Brian Cushing looked like Starsky and Hutch out there.

3. There is no injury with DeMeco. With OD, when he got hurt, I was really upset because I thought he had also earned the same sort of payday. Both of them had shut their mouths and were playing really good, focused football out there. I was afraid this thing was going to fester and turn into a bad deal. Now, with OD, I'm afraid 2010 is going to be a year where he sort of has to repeat what he had done in 2009 up until the injury.

Thank goodness the guy was rewarded. A bit of my faith in McNair has been restored.

TheRealJoker
03-30-2010, 09:56 PM
It's great to see a player that does everything right getting his money without whining and demanding a trade or release like most players would've with less than his credentials.

DeMeco did not attend the first day of minicamp last year at the request of his agent who was negotiating a long term deal. DeMeco hated this day off so much he fired his agent and rejoined the team like the leader he is... that's why he is the defensive team captain and a true leader unlike Dunta Robinson!!!

Brisco_County
03-30-2010, 10:02 PM
He's the heart of the defense-- A defining factor of the entire team's identity. This is a very important signing.

dalemurphy
03-30-2010, 10:05 PM
Hey skidmark, I was helping my neighbor who had his HOME broken into in broad daylight this afternoon. Other neighbors came over, and we figured out that someone on our street is the thief--So we made a flyer to put up on the front door of every home on this block to warn people to start looking out for each other a little bit better.

So I wasn't avoiding this thread. I was busy being a pal to someone, and trying to make an effort to improve our street.

And if you would do some research, you'd see that I have been waiting for this deal to get done because I think it is VERY deserving.

But go ahead and try to be hot stuff with calling people out. It's fun to watch.

Really! Seems that perhaps you are overreacting. It is funny, though, that all of the naysayers are so very busy saving lives on a day like this. There's about 30,000 posts between the 4 of you and yet none of you are inclined to make a post until hours after a huge signing like this (after being called out and in response to it)... and, even then, it's an angry tirade. You guys are a real joy!

Carr Bombed
03-30-2010, 10:10 PM
Really! Seems that perhaps you are overreacting. It is funny, though, that all of the naysayers are so very busy saving lives on a day like this. There's about 30,000 posts between the 4 of you and yet none of you are inclined to make a post until hours after a huge signing like this (after being called out and in response to it)... and, even then, it's an angry tirade. You guys are a real joy!

If G.P. says he was helping a neighbor, then I'm pretty sure he was doing exactly that. There is a life outside of this message board. I was doing something also and didn't find about the signing until hours after it happened.

TexCanada
03-30-2010, 10:11 PM
I actually really like the way Smithiak and the Houston org (including Bob) handle everything. They seem to bring in players that stay out of the media for bad reasons, they are patient (which is a huge plus for me), and they seem to spend money smartly. If Kubes could just cut out a few of his dumb mistakes on the sidelines then I would be very happy with the direction this franchise is headed.

Obviously not everyone will agree with me.

Brando
03-30-2010, 10:11 PM
I just found out the great news! I'm liking our LB corps.

TexCanada
03-30-2010, 10:13 PM
If G.P. says he was helping a neighbor, then I'm pretty sure he was doing exactly that. There is a life outside of this message board. I was doing something also and didn't find about the signing until hours after it happened.

Also, if everybody agreed on every issue, then this board would be devastatingly boring.

The Pencil Neck
03-30-2010, 10:14 PM
Really! Seems that perhaps you are overreacting. It is funny, though, that all of the naysayers are so very busy saving lives on a day like this. There's about 30,000 posts between the 4 of you and yet none of you are inclined to make a post until hours after a huge signing like this (after being called out and in response to it)... and, even then, it's an angry tirade. You guys are a real joy!

Come on, man.

Chill out. This isn't about divisions in the fan ranks.

We really shouldn't be taking an "I told you so" stance because nothing's really been proven, yet. And I admit, I made a bit of an "I told you so" post myself. But I shouldn't have.

This should be about being psyched that we've got Demeco in the fold for a few years.

gary
03-30-2010, 10:15 PM
He damn well deserves it. Great job Rick and Bob. Ricky bobby y'all? LOL

dalemurphy
03-30-2010, 10:16 PM
If G.P. says he was helping a neighbor, then I'm pretty sure he was doing exactly that. There is a life outside of this message board. I was doing something also and didn't find about the signing until hours after it happened.

Perhaps GP, Texecutioner, SH, and the rest all live in the same neighborhood.

Look, I was just giving those guys the slightest bit of ribbing. All I did was list their name and say "missing in action". It was simply a little call out to get them on the board and hopefully credit the Texans organization for outperforming their expectations. Instead, GP flipped out and got really defensive.

I'm not sure why he didn't simply say, "hey, I was busy today but I'm very happy about this signing. Thank you, Bob McNair, for doing the right thing."

Perhaps the rest of the crew: SH, Texecutioner, SteelbTexan will handle it better. Clock is ticking, though, and no sign of them!

Kaiser Toro
03-30-2010, 10:22 PM
I believe the Drunk Thread is in the No Sports Talk Allowed forum

JB
03-30-2010, 10:25 PM
He damn well deserves it. Great job Rick and Bob. Ricky bobby y'all? LOL

Ha! You funny Gary!

Vinnie
03-30-2010, 10:25 PM
I'm hopeful this is a positive sign towards a possible OD deal as well. I know it's a different situation, but it shows the management is willing to take care of the ones who produce worth their dollars. OD and Demeco have both outperformed their pay and it's time to pay the piper. Smith knows this, man.

dalemurphy
03-30-2010, 10:25 PM
Come on, man.

Chill out. This isn't about divisions in the fan ranks.

We really shouldn't be taking an "I told you so" stance because nothing's really been proven, yet. And I admit, I made a bit of an "I told you so" post myself. But I shouldn't have.

This should be about being psyched that we've got Demeco in the fold for a few years.

Well, it is time for some to admit that they overreacted. These guys were calling McNair cheap and saying that his lack of spending was proof that he was satisfied with mediocrity and more concerned with making money. Many of them actually swore that he would never pay Demeco this kind of money.

So, yeah, it's time for some of that. As a fan, it should be a happy day to admit you were overly pessimistic about a Texan player, coach, or certainly the owner. I love it when I'm able to say, "Kasey Studdard is much better than I thought he was", or, "I'm glad we didn't trade down and we took Cushing instead". For fans to not do that on a day like today doesn't show well of them, IMO.

JB
03-30-2010, 10:26 PM
I'm hopeful this is a positive sign towards a possible OD deal as well. I know it's a different situation, but it shows the management is willing to take care of the ones who produce worth their dollars. OD and Demeco have both outperformed their pay and it's time to pay the piper. Smith knows this, man.

As OD himself has said, he needs to pass the physical. IMO once he does, he will get a contract.

The Pencil Neck
03-30-2010, 10:27 PM
I'm hopeful this is a positive sign towards a possible OD deal as well. I know it's a different situation, but it shows the management is willing to take care of the ones who produce worth their dollars. OD and Demeco have both outperformed their pay and it's time to pay the piper. Smith knows this, man.

They've already worked up some legalese to allow him to work out and rehab at the facilities. I think that shows a real intent to get him signed.

steelbtexan
03-30-2010, 10:31 PM
Perhaps GP, Texecutioner, SH, and the rest all live in the same neighborhood.

Look, I was just giving those guys the slightest bit of ribbing. All I did was list their name and say "missing in action". It was simply a little call out to get them on the board and hopefully credit the Texans organization for outperforming their expectations. Instead, GP flipped out and got really defensive.

I'm not sure why he didn't simply say, "hey, I was busy today but I'm very happy about this signing. Thank you, Bob McNair, for doing the right thing."

Perhaps the rest of the crew: SH, Texecutioner, SteelbTexan, Threetoedpete will handle it better. Clock is ticking, though, and no sign of them!

They re-signed Ryans YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I expected them to re-sign him.

The Texans are still in worse shape than before the offseason started.

But anyway I'm glad uncle Bob ponied up the $.

Here's to having a great draft. With all of the holes on this team they need a great draft draft. Luckily this is the deepest draft in years. It's possible they can fill the holes through the draft. How's that for being positive.

dalemurphy
03-30-2010, 10:32 PM
They've already worked up some legalese to allow him to work out and rehab at the facilities. I think that shows a real intent to get him signed.

I saw that before the Demeco signing and was very encouraged by the inginuity and the act of good faith it showed. This is a very good day to be a Texan fan!

Hardcore Texan
03-30-2010, 10:38 PM
I saw that before the Demeco signing and was very encouraged by the inginuity and the act of good faith it showed. This is a very good day to be a Texan fan!

Bottom line guys and gals, I think the bolded is what we should all focus on for at least a day. :texflag:

The other debates will live on after that.

Carr Bombed
03-30-2010, 10:42 PM
They re-signed Ryans YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I expected them to re-sign him.

The Texans are still in worse shape than before the offseason started.

But anyway I'm glad uncle Bob ponied up the $.

Here's to having a great draft. With all of the holes on this team they need a great draft draft. Luckily this is the deepest draft in years. It's possible they can fill the holes through the draft. How's that for being positive.

:rolleyes:

Yeah, they are definitely in worse shape than before the offseason started..(you know especially since the offseason just started and all)....down one busted ass whiny CB, who never returned to being the player he once was (which was never elite), a player who certainly was replaceable/forgettable destroys your whole up and coming season.

If only we could of overpaid for Leigh freaking Bodden, because he's soooo great.

All we need to do is sign Pollard, pick up a couple of key signings to improve depth for camp, and have a good draft and we're set. Basically just about what every other team in the NFL has/wants to do.

dalemurphy
03-30-2010, 10:48 PM
:rolleyes:

Yeah, they are definitely in worse shape than before the offseason started..(you know especially since the offseason just started and all)....down one busted ass whiny CB, who never returned to being the player he once was (which was never elite), a player who certainly was replaceable/forgettable platoons your whole up and coming season.

YAWN

If only we could of overpaid for Leigh freaking Bodden, because he's soooo great.

Right. We've have the youngest team in the NFL and have lost Dunta Robinson and Rex Grossman. We have 8 picks in the draft. We have a probowl QB who is on the upswing in his career, an allpro rookie LB next to a two time probowl MLB. We've improved our athleticism and depth on the interior line. We'v have arguably the best WR in the NFL and he's only 28 years old... Yep, I think the sky is definitely falling.

b0ng
03-30-2010, 10:51 PM
I am now okay with how the offseason has gone.

Brisco_County
03-30-2010, 10:55 PM
The Texans are still in worse shape than before the offseason started.

In the long term, they're in better shape for releasing Dunta. In the short term, we're still waiting for the draft, and our elite TE is almost completely rehabbed. Let's not rush to judgment.

rush2112mn
03-30-2010, 10:57 PM
Great News.....I am really happy to get this guy resigned. He brings it every week and has shown what being a leader on and off the field is by his example. We are lucky to have such a great guy on our team.
I am looking forward to seeing how much better he and Cushing are going to be this year. It is going to be a lot of fun......

Vinnie
03-30-2010, 11:26 PM
As OD himself has said, he needs to pass the physical. IMO once he does, he will get a contract.

He also said himself that this is his third knee injury. I don't know if it's been the same knee every time or what, but he obviously bounced back from the first two pretty decently. Granted he is older, so I guess we'll see. Sure didn't keep him from playing in that Playboy golf tournament recently! :boogie: I just have a sneaky suspicion he'll be able to play at near the level he was before the injury once he's rehabed, if not at the same level. Maybe that's the homer in me coming out. If I'm completely wrong I guess we'll be seeing what Casey can bring to the table.

Carr Bombed
03-30-2010, 11:30 PM
Sure didn't keep him from playing in that Playboy golf tournament recently! :boogie:

You have to keep your priorities in order.....some games are way too important to sit out of just because of a injury. I'm glad Owen was able to tough it and and be a gamer.

Wolf
03-30-2010, 11:31 PM
CnD had a link where he had surgery on both knees before (now 2 on one side)

El Tejano
03-31-2010, 12:02 AM
Let's get Chester signed too.

mattieuk
03-31-2010, 01:43 AM
Let's get Chester signed too.

That'd be nice, can't see it happening.

This DeMeco deal is great news, although a small, worried part of me feels that this is going to mean that there isn't a deal coming up for OD of the proportions that he expects (or league value dictates). The worry of the Texans off season continues, although a huge headache has been solved today.

Malloy
03-31-2010, 01:50 AM
dang no wonder I haven't scored

I used to go off of South Congress

:foottap:

seriously



Trophys? :)

Corrosion
03-31-2010, 02:00 AM
But, but the Chronicle didn't report about negotiations so obviously the Texans weren't making any effort to sign him.

I just said this in another thread but I'll repeat it here anyhow - the Chron must have the most inept coverage of sports in any major market in the nation .... Their writers suck and their editors cant edit.


Even worse - often Yahoo gets information before they do.



As for this signing - Its about damn time. :bravo:

since02
03-31-2010, 02:14 AM
awesome! happy for Demeco, great player that deserves every bit of that $
:fans:
next on the list

1. Pollard
2. Daniels
3. And chester hopefully....

TexanBacker93
03-31-2010, 05:34 AM
Woo Hoo!!! Woo Hoo!!! Woo Hoo!!!
:bender:

Now if they can just give me a long term deal I'll be real happy.

Insideop
03-31-2010, 06:01 AM
:clap:

This signing makes me feel a lot better. I'm glad they got it done and I hope DeMeco is happy and plays outstandingly for us for a long time. He seems to be a good man that tries to do things the right way and I don't think we'll have to worry about him "tanking" since he got a big contract. He has too much pride as a player and a lot of heart to do that kind of thing. I guess that's something I always think about with the players now days and the kind of money they make, but not with DeMeco.

Now they need to finish the job and lock up Pollard, Daniels, and the rest of the players they want.

badboy
03-31-2010, 07:47 AM
lol, am I the only who finds this funny?

"What do you want for your birthday?"
"I hope an athlete gets a huge payday!"

:)

This is how you know we love our team too much.
:fans:It was for his brother's birthday. For himself he asked to be a judge at the cheer leader tryouts.

badboy
03-31-2010, 08:01 AM
I'm glad that Ryans got his deal but I was wanting to see what he was going to write on his shoes.

Marcus
03-31-2010, 08:24 AM
I just said this in another thread but I'll repeat it here anyhow - the Chron must have the most inept coverage of sports in any major market in the nation .... Their writers suck and their editors cant edit.

WOOOOOSH!

(that was the sound of cak's sarcasm flying right over your head}

Giant Tiger
03-31-2010, 08:25 AM
:rolleyes:

Yeah, they are definitely in worse shape than before the offseason started..(you know especially since the offseason just started and all)....down one busted ass whiny CB, who never returned to being the player he once was (which was never elite), a player who certainly was replaceable/forgettable destroys your whole up and coming season.

If only we could of overpaid for Leigh freaking Bodden, because he's soooo great.

All we need to do is sign Pollard, pick up a couple of key signings to improve depth for camp, and have a good draft and we're set. Basically just about what every other team in the NFL has/wants to do.

Just wondering why some fans want their team to go out & sign free agents right away. IMO better value is available later as teams release players as we get closer to training camp :thinking:

Corrosion
03-31-2010, 08:27 AM
WOOOOOSH!

(that was the sound of cak's sarcasm point flying right over your head}

Not at all , I was just agreeing with him ..... and I had just read the first three lines of McClain .... I wish I hadnt wasted that few seconds of my life.

HOU-TEX
03-31-2010, 09:00 AM
Thank the good Lord above! I think most know how I feel about D-Ryans and what he means to this team.

I think I might pee in my pants.

I've had a workout, dinner, sleep, shower and now back at work again. I think I might pee in my pants....again.

Blake
03-31-2010, 09:06 AM
Can we get a mod to adjust the title?

Second Honeymoon
03-31-2010, 09:15 AM
glad to see Ryans re-signed, although it wasn't completely necessary yet. with the uncertainty of the next labor deal and with the ability to franchise him in 2011 (if there is even a season), I may have waited till the season ended just to see what the new rules are. that being said, having Ryans and Cushing together for the next 4+ years is never a bad thing.

although it may be a little early for the contract, Ryans deserves the money but it may have been prudent to just play the year out and make sure he stays healthy. i would hate to have paid all this money out and then the guy gets a serious injury ala Daniels. A lot of people were wanting Daniels to get a new deal last offseason and we were very lucky the Texans brass decided to wait. Very lucky indeed.

the deal seems fair and well constructed based on the current deal. front loading it is good because there is no cap this year and next year there may not even be a season, or at least what we would consider a season.

the Texans brass has shown that they can retain players, I would just like to see them make some err more of an effort to attract some top players as well. you can do both, it just takes some money and some schmoozing/courting. I think we need to prove we can retain and attract before we become the power that we all want them to be.

One thing is for sure, we don't need to be in any hurry to pay Daniels. We hold all the cards now and even if the dude comes back 100% and is productive and healthy, we aren't going to lose him if we want to keep him. We have next years franchise tag and tendering to keep him, plus Tight Ends aren't that coveted especially ones that are basically wide receivers and poor blockers. If you can do both, people want you but Daniels is pretty below average at blocking (though improved) so I think we can keep him without having to pay him the big $$.

Pollard is a different story as he played well, but we gotta see more from this guy before we start throwing money his way. The Texans hold the cards so they need to learn from past mistakes of giving contracts before its prudent. Carr's contract and D.Davis' contract come to mind. We gave both guys way way more than they were worth and/or before we really needed to. The Texans had their heart in the right place by trying to let the guys know they needed them and believed in them, but running football teams isn't about using your heart. You gotta be cold blooded and calculated and sometimes you gotta play hardball with a guy. It's a tightrope but it has been proven it can be done. Hopefully the Texans continue to learn from past mistakes.

Blake
03-31-2010, 09:25 AM
I've had a workout, dinner, sleep, shower and now back at work again. I think I might pee in my pants....again.

Hope you brought a change of draws.

badboy
03-31-2010, 09:29 AM
glad to see Ryans re-signed, although it wasn't completely necessary yet. with the uncertainty of the next labor deal and with the ability to franchise him in 2011 (if there is even a season), I may have waited till the season ended just to see what the new rules are. that being said, having Ryans and Cushing together for the next 4+ years is never a bad thing.

although it may be a little early for the contract, Ryans deserves the money but it may have been prudent to just play the year out and make sure he stays healthy. i would hate to have paid all this money out and then the guy gets a serious injury ala Daniels. A lot of people were wanting Daniels to get a new deal last offseason and we were very lucky the Texans brass decided to wait. Very lucky indeed.

the deal seems fair and well constructed based on the current deal. front loading it is good because there is no cap this year and next year there may not even be a season, or at least what we would consider a season.

the Texans brass has shown that they can retain players, I would just like to see them make some err more of an effort to attract some top players as well. you can do both, it just takes some money and some schmoozing/courting. I think we need to prove we can retain and attract before we become the power that we all want them to be.

One thing is for sure, we don't need to be in any hurry to pay Daniels. We hold all the cards now and even if the dude comes back 100% and is productive and healthy, we aren't going to lose him if we want to keep him. We have next years franchise tag and tendering to keep him, plus Tight Ends aren't that coveted especially ones that are basically wide receivers and poor blockers. If you can do both, people want you but Daniels is pretty below average at blocking (though improved) so I think we can keep him without having to pay him the big $$.

Pollard is a different story as he played well, but we gotta see more from this guy before we start throwing money his way. The Texans hold the cards so they need to learn from past mistakes of giving contracts before its prudent. Carr's contract and D.Davis' contract come to mind. We gave both guys way way more than they were worth and/or before we really needed to. The Texans had their heart in the right place by trying to let the guys know they needed them and believed in them, but running football teams isn't about using your heart. You gotta be cold blooded and calculated and sometimes you gotta play hardball with a guy. It's a tightrope but it has been proven it can be done. Hopefully the Texans continue to learn from past mistakes.Someone mentioned Demps the other day and I was fooled on him. I thought he would be better the next year after being a Pro Bowl alternate. I hope Pollard does better. Can't really compare the two in my opinion as Pollard is much better.

Big Lou
03-31-2010, 09:38 AM
McNair is still cheap.....


He deserved at least $97 million gauranteed.......


JK!

HOU-TEX
03-31-2010, 09:38 AM
Hope you brought a change of draws.

Nah, it's a cozy feeling.......

hookinreds
03-31-2010, 09:56 AM
SWEET!!!! Turned a crappy work day in to a game breaker! Now that's what Hump Days are for baby!

Jackie Chiles
03-31-2010, 11:25 AM
One thing is for sure, we don't need to be in any hurry to pay Daniels. We hold all the cards now and even if the dude comes back 100% and is productive and healthy, we aren't going to lose him if we want to keep him. We have next years franchise tag and tendering to keep him, plus Tight Ends aren't that coveted especially ones that are basically wide receivers and poor blockers. If you can do both, people want you but Daniels is pretty below average at blocking (though improved) so I think we can keep him without having to pay him the big $$.

Pollard is a different story as he played well, but we gotta see more from this guy before we start throwing money his way. The Texans hold the cards so they need to learn from past mistakes of giving contracts before its prudent. Carr's contract and D.Davis' contract come to mind. We gave both guys way way more than they were worth and/or before we really needed to. The Texans had their heart in the right place by trying to let the guys know they needed them and believed in them, but running football teams isn't about using your heart. You gotta be cold blooded and calculated and sometimes you gotta play hardball with a guy. It's a tightrope but it has been proven it can be done. Hopefully the Texans continue to learn from past mistakes.

All your points on OD are valid and by doing what you say we would certainly be able to save some money for the next two years but would it not also be advantageous to do a front-loaded deal while there is no cap similar to DeMeco's? It is inevitable that OD is going to get a large contract, might as well do it now (once he shows he is healthy) while we have significant leverage.

Not sure how Pollard is going to be handled. Would love to know what he is asking for because if he has another year like he just did, the price goes up. Again though, we have the leverage here and I would love to see all three of our top RFAs get front-loaded long-term contracts this year when we know there is no cap. Yeah, the cap could be gone for good but we can't be absolutely certain of that.

badboy
03-31-2010, 11:40 AM
All your points on OD are valid and by doing what you say we would certainly be able to save some money for the next two years but would it not also be advantageous to do a front-loaded deal while there is no cap similar to DeMeco's? It is inevitable that OD is going to get a large contract, might as well do it now (once he shows he is healthy) while we have significant leverage.

Not sure how Pollard is going to be handled. Would love to know what he is asking for because if he has another year like he just did, the price goes up. Again though, we have the leverage here and I would love to see all three of our top RFAs get front-loaded long-term contracts this year when we know there is no cap. Yeah, the cap could be gone for good but we can't be absolutely certain of that.If the NFL owners allow the cap to disappear then they deserve anything they get.

TimeKiller
03-31-2010, 12:05 PM
Excellent. LB is set for YEEEEEEEEEEARS to come. 59/56 got this D head towards elite and I'm gonna love every second of it. There are really no holes on this D, sure we'd like to see an upgrade at FS but Wilson has performed admirably. DT too but it's not like okoye and cody are so bad it hurts to see them on the field. Just wish they would step up.

Ryan
03-31-2010, 03:25 PM
We should probably change the title of this thread now. :fans:

TexanBacker93
03-31-2010, 04:38 PM
the Texans brass has shown that they can retain players, I would just like to see them make some err more of an effort to attract some top players as well. you can do both, it just takes some money and some schmoozing/courting. I think we need to prove we can retain and attract before we become the power that we all want them to be.

One thing is for sure, we don't need to be in any hurry to pay Daniels. We hold all the cards now and even if the dude comes back 100% and is productive and healthy, we aren't going to lose him if we want to keep him. We have next years franchise tag and tendering to keep him, plus Tight Ends aren't that coveted especially ones that are basically wide receivers and poor blockers. If you can do both, people want you but Daniels is pretty below average at blocking (though improved) so I think we can keep him without having to pay him the big $$.

Pollard is a different story as he played well, but we gotta see more from this guy before we start throwing money his way. The Texans hold the cards so they need to learn from past mistakes of giving contracts before its prudent. Carr's contract and D.Davis' contract come to mind. We gave both guys way way more than they were worth and/or before we really needed to. The Texans had their heart in the right place by trying to let the guys know they needed them and believed in them, but running football teams isn't about using your heart. You gotta be cold blooded and calculated and sometimes you gotta play hardball with a guy. It's a tightrope but it has been proven it can be done. Hopefully the Texans continue to learn from past mistakes.


I'm not fully sold that shelling out big money to someone else's free agent works. Most of the teams that do that find that the player is happy getting the big paycheck and doesn't perform at the same level. I know there are instances where it works (Michael Turner's done well in Atlanta), but it seems such a crap shoot. What I'd really like to see them do is keep finding guys like Pollard that don't cost $100 million, but outperform their deal.

As for Pollard, I agree that we should see how he plays this year and give it time before we give him a long term deal. He's restricted this year so unless another team wants to give up a #1 we'll keep him around. That will give the team time to better evaluate what he brings to the field.

Second Honeymoon
03-31-2010, 07:51 PM
Perhaps GP, Texecutioner, SH, and the rest all live in the same neighborhood.

Look, I was just giving those guys the slightest bit of ribbing. All I did was list their name and say "missing in action". It was simply a little call out to get them on the board and hopefully credit the Texans organization for outperforming their expectations. Instead, GP flipped out and got really defensive.

I'm not sure why he didn't simply say, "hey, I was busy today but I'm very happy about this signing. Thank you, Bob McNair, for doing the right thing."

Perhaps the rest of the crew: SH, Texecutioner, SteelbTexan will handle it better. Clock is ticking, though, and no sign of them!

its called raising a family, volunteering for Little League, having a professional job, helping with Girl Scouts, spending time with the wife, being Mr. Mom from 3-6pm every day, shopping for groceries, cooking, playing the new Call of Duty maps on my xbox, and smoking a little grass on the front porch. My life is pretty busy nowadays.

I get a lot more time during the football season because I bust my ass the other 8 months of the year trying to raise a family in this crap-infested welfare society.

But I did post on this thread earlier and I was pretty positive about the signing. I have some reservations but its more managing risks than on-the field related.

JB
03-31-2010, 07:55 PM
its called raising a family, volunteering for Little League, having a professional job, helping with Girl Scouts, spending time with the wife, being Mr. Mom from 3-6pm every day, shopping for groceries, cooking, playing the new Call of Duty maps on my xbox, and smoking a little grass on the front porch. My life is pretty busy nowadays.
I get a lot more time during the football season because I bust my ass the other 8 months of the year trying to raise a family in this crap-infested welfare society.

But I did post on this thread earlier and I was pretty positive about the signing. I have some reservations but its more managing risks than on-the field related.

Damn Dude, you sounding just like a regular guy! :texflag:

Texan_Bill
03-31-2010, 07:56 PM
Nah, it's a cozy feeling.......

Okay Chris White. :facepalm:

New_Texans
03-31-2010, 09:19 PM
Demeco deserved more but he understands that he shouldn't get greedy when that extra bit of money the team saved on him will just help the Texans in resigning OD, Pollard, and even Mario in the future.

Hes a real team player and leader.


DEMECO!!!

Runner
04-01-2010, 08:59 AM
Perhaps GP, Texecutioner, SH, and the rest all live in the same neighborhood.

Look, I was just giving those guys the slightest bit of ribbing.

...

Perhaps the rest of the crew: SH, Texecutioner, SteelbTexan will handle it better. Clock is ticking, though, and no sign of them!

Slight ribbing indeed, coming from a guy who disappears for days when the Texans go on a season destroying mid-season losing streak or choke against division rivals. That's easier than admitting the possibility of error as you expect others to do...

========

As far as extending Ryans goes, good job by the Texans. It was something they needed to accomplish. However, I don't find extending an obvious key player a sign of excellence - it's a basic part of doing an average job.

It's going to take something more than an average team on the field to convince me of excellence in other parts of the organization.

keyser
04-01-2010, 09:05 AM
Demeco deserved more but he understands that he shouldn't get greedy when that extra bit of money the team saved on him will just help the Texans in resigning OD, Pollard, and even Mario in the future.

Hes a real team player and leader.


DEMECO!!!

I'm very happy about this signing, and feel it was well deserved and is fair to both sides. But, let's not start thinking that Demeco gave us some kind of bargain - this had a huge upside for him, also. If he had not signed, he's forced to play for a lot less this year, and then would have to negotiate even larger contracts in future years to match the overall income this one is likely to bring in.

Consider some of the possible scenarios over the next years:
- There's a lockout in 2011: Ryans gets $3 million this year, nothing the next year. With his current contract, he gets $14.5 million guaranteed this year, and (if I understand correctly) has at least $7 million guaranteed over the following 2. In 2012, he would have to negotiate a 4 year contract worth over $10 million per year on average just to match what he would be getting with the current contract.
- There's a new CBA next year that maintains the current rules (Ryans would be an RFA again in 2011!). Ryans earns about $6.5 million over the next 2 years. Again, in 2012 he has to negotiate a 4 year deal worth over $10 million on average to match his current contract.
- There's a new CBA next year that goes back to the old style (i.e. Ryans is a UFA): Ryans has to negotiate a 5 year deal worth an average of $9million per year to match what he just signed.

Keep in mind, those contracts are just the minimum he'd have to meet: the $9 million average would, I think, be higher than any other LB has received, to date (i.e. higher than Dansby's), and the $10 million is up at about Suggs' level. In other words, even in the best case (new CBA where he's an UFA), Demeco would have to be counting on getting the highest paying contract for a pure LB in history, just to match what he's getting with this deal - never mind if he wanted to do even better.

I'm not even discussing the issues of injury, which might knock out tons of his future earning (vs. getting $21 million guaranteed with this contract).

Again, don't get me wrong - I think this was a fair deal for both sides. Demeco gets a large payday, with lots of guarantees, and the team locks up their star MLB for a large but not excessive (relative to performance) salary. Let's just not act as though Demeco's making some big sacrifice to stay with the team - this is an awfully good deal for him, compared to his other options.

threetoedpete
04-01-2010, 09:06 AM
Demeco deserved more but he understands that he shouldn't get greedy when that extra bit of money the team saved on him will just help the Texans in resigning OD, Pollard, and even Mario in the future.

Hes a real team player and leader.


DEMECO!!!

Demeeeeco, is what he is. A very lucky and over paid Mike. He is worthy of the bump and long term security due to his service to the club. However, he is not the premier Mike in the league and never will be. 21.7 guaranteed money, I hope he sets it up so he will always have the green to make the scene. He is a very lucky fellow. We'll see how much gratitude he has for us on the field next season.

dalemurphy
04-01-2010, 09:20 AM
Slight ribbing indeed, coming from a guy who disappears for days when the Texans go on a season destroying mid-season losing streak or choke against division rivals. That's easier than admitting the possibility of error as you expect others to do...

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Total fabrication. Over the past two years, I've been a vigilant supporter of the team in the midst of those losing streaks... Well, except for the 12 hour period after last year's second Jacksonville game when I temporarily became a pink-soaper.

If you are interested, go back to those threads last year and you'll see me explaining why this team will get to 9 or 10 wins despite the 5-6 record.

Runner
04-01-2010, 10:20 AM
Total fabrication. Over the past two years, I've been a vigilant supporter of the team in the midst of those losing streaks... Well, except for the 12 hour period after last year's second Jacksonville game when I temporarily became a pink-soaper.

If you are interested, go back to those threads last year and you'll see me explaining why this team will get to 9 or 10 wins despite the 5-6 record.

Not a total fabrication. There were periods you didn't post for days when the team wasn't playing well. That could have appeared that you were avoiding the issue, as you jabbed at these other posters for doing. I didn't say that your opinion wavered in those times. Your persistence in your belief without apparent consideration of evidence to the contrary is also the same thing you were pointing out in others.

I just found your post to be an example of the pot calling the kettle black. If my iPhone could do it, I'd put that smilie here...

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In regards to your twelve hour slip, I think we can all move past it. We all have moments of weakness...

GP
04-01-2010, 10:28 AM
Not a total fabrication. There were periods you didn't post for days when the team wasn't playing well. That could have appeared that you were avoiding the issue, as you jabbed at these other posters for doing. I didn't say that your opinion wavered in those times. Your persistence in your belief without apparent consideration of evidence to the contrary is also the same thing you were pointing out in others.

I just found your post to be an example of the pot calling the kettle black. If my iPhone could do it, I'd put that smilie here...

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In regards to your twelve hour slip, I think we can all move past it. We all have moments of weakness...

Yeah, that's my beef with what he did.

Technically, we shouldn't be calling out people BEFOREHAND. It's cowardly and immature to call people out like that. if I make a post, and someone wants to call me out on the ISSUE being discussed, I can understand that.

But to throw out a little dig, and then say "Yeah, look at him. He's hiding" is a pretty chickencrap thing to do.

What if I had been on vacation, didn't see his post, and then came back 5 days later and see that I got called out and was absent for 5 days...leaving people with the thought that maybe dalemurphy was right about me? When all along I just wasn't around to respond.

Oh well, the best way to handle things is to make a mental note that there are some people who, for whatever reason, get their jollies off on provoking others to anger while trying to make themselves look taller and better.

I'll just not engage in conversations with him. We all have those few whom we kinda' have to be disciplined to refrain from engaging in direct discussion.

The Pencil Neck
04-01-2010, 10:35 AM
There were periods you didn't post for days when the team wasn't playing well.

I'm not who you were talking to here and I didn't call out the anti-McNair crowd for not posting immediately after the news of Demeco's signing, but...

Last year, I did disappear fairly shortly after the beginning of the season. I'm not sure exactly when I stopped posting. I had a laundry list of reasons why I stopped posting: too much work, health issues, spending too much time posting, etc.

But when we started dropping games, I really didn't want to listen to a bunch of guys whining about how much we sucked and about how no one on the team cared and what a rotten owner McNair was and what a rotten coach Kubiak is and what a rotten GM Smith is and everything. I was unhappy that we were losing but I never lost faith that we were a good team. I think now (and thought then) that we've got all the pieces in place to spend several years as a SB contender. And I knew if I continued posting, I was going to get into fights and arguments and I didn't feel like I needed that at the time.

So.

Just wanted to get that off my chest.

Blake
04-01-2010, 10:43 AM
April fools!!!

Runner
04-01-2010, 10:52 AM
I'm not who you were talking to here and I didn't call out the anti-McNair crowd for not posting immediately after the news of Demeco's signing, but...

Last year, I did disappear fairly shortly after the beginning of the season. I'm not sure exactly when I stopped posting. I had a laundry list of reasons why I stopped posting: too much work, health issues, spending too much time posting, etc.

But when we started dropping games, I really didn't want to listen to a bunch of guys whining about how much we sucked and about how no one on the team cared and what a rotten owner McNair was and what a rotten coach Kubiak is and what a rotten GM Smith is and everything. I was unhappy that we were losing but I never lost faith that we were a good team. I think now (and thought then) that we've got all the pieces in place to spend several years as a SB contender. And I knew if I continued posting, I was going to get into fights and arguments and I didn't feel like I needed that at the time.

So.

Just wanted to get that off my chest.

I've pretty much disappeared now, but I'm not hiding.

I find the off-season boring, and since nothing much is going on every little thing is spun up to something major to meet preconceived notions. I find I have little of merit to add to change that, so I don't post.

As far as finding the negative posters irritating, I can see that. I can also see people being irritated in unbridled optimism that spins every Texans failure as evidence that they are building in some fictional "right way".

The extreme views which are often stated obnoxiously, condescendingly, and frequently are why people grate on each other here.

Second Honeymoon
04-01-2010, 12:16 PM
can't we all just get along...

we retained one of our good players. congrats. that is what you are supposed to do.

something more valuable is being able to attract other team's top players to come here.

once we can start doing both AND having a good draft, we will be in good shape.

until then we will continue to be mediocre and that seems to be enough for some people around here

El Tejano
04-01-2010, 12:23 PM
can't we all just get along...

we retained one of our good players. congrats. that is what you are supposed to do.

something more valuable is being able to attract other team's top players to come here.

once we can start doing both AND having a good draft, we will be in good shape.

until then we will continue to be mediocre and that seems to be enough for some people around here

Out of curiosity, do you think our 06 draft sucked or something? I mean that draft took at least a year to show it's worth, and 3 years down the road we really saw how good it was. With that in mind can't we at least complain about the 07 draft after this year if we don't see improvement?

I know we want sudden impact players but not every draft is going to get you that.

Texecutioner
04-01-2010, 11:21 PM
Perhaps GP, Texecutioner, SH, and the rest all live in the same neighborhood.

Look, I was just giving those guys the slightest bit of ribbing. All I did was list their name and say "missing in action". It was simply a little call out to get them on the board and hopefully credit the Texans organization for outperforming their expectations. Instead, GP flipped out and got really defensive.

I'm not sure why he didn't simply say, "hey, I was busy today but I'm very happy about this signing. Thank you, Bob McNair, for doing the right thing."

Perhaps the rest of the crew: SH, Texecutioner, SteelbTexan will handle it better. Clock is ticking, though, and no sign of them!

Well sorry that the 3 of us don't have the same stalker post response speed that you seem to, but I'll work on that. :)

This is the first I heard of this actually. Been out of the loop lately. Great news. It's about time this got inked though. Demeco is a cornerstone of the team. They have to keep Cushing and Demeco together.

Lucky
04-02-2010, 12:56 AM
As far as extending Ryans goes, good job by the Texans. It was something they needed to accomplish. However, I don't find extending an obvious key player a sign of excellence - it's a basic part of doing an average job.
Extending Ryans is a no brainer. And giving props to Smith for doing so reminds of a Chris Rock bit.

"I take care of my kids!" Hey, you're supposed to do that. What do you want, a cookie?

barrett
04-02-2010, 04:58 AM
stalker post response speed that you seem to

rep!


edit:

oh yeah, we re-signed Demeco Ryans. So... um, cool.

I believe it was the great philosopher F. Gump who once said:


That's one less thing.

Runner
04-02-2010, 01:26 PM
Extending Ryans is a no brainer. And giving props to Smith for doing so reminds of a Chris Rock bit.

"I take care of my kids!" Hey, you're supposed to do that. What do you want, a cookie?

Don't be so harsh, Lucky. I doubt you can name many more than twenty-five or thirty NFL GMs that would have extended him.